Esteban Ocon's Alpine feud just got EVEN WORSE

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  • Apparently Esteban Ocon was 'too nice' - THAT was too nice? Alpine is going to have a long rest of the year, aren't they?
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    In this explosive video, we delve deep into the dramatic fallout between Esteban Ocon and the Alpine team following the Canadian Grand Prix, revealing a messy divorce brewing behind the scenes. We explore how Ocon's controversial behavior contrasts starkly with team players like Valtteri Bottas, causing friction within Alpine. Discover the impact of Alpine's ongoing legal battles and management struggles, as they grapple with the complexities of maintaining team stability and contracts. We’ll unpack the strategic missteps during the Canadian Grand Prix that led to internal conflict and missed opportunities, highlighting the operational challenges facing Alpine.
    Despite being stuck in seventh place in the Constructors' Championship, Alpine is focusing on long-term rebuilding with significant investments and facility upgrades aimed at a strong comeback by 2026. We'll discuss the strained relationship between Ocon and Pierre Gasly, rooted in long-standing personal conflicts, and how this dynamic affects team performance. With potential new drivers like Jack Doohan or Zhou Guanyu on the horizon, we examine Alpine's attempts to maintain team cohesion and competitiveness.
    Tune in to get the full scoop on the turmoil within Alpine F1, the strategic decisions that have led them here, and what it means for the future of this storied team. Don't miss out on the latest updates and expert analysis on the drama unfolding in the world of Formula 1!
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    Esteban Ocon's Alpine feud just got EVEN WORSE
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  • @LawVS
    @LawVS  10 днів тому +12

    Climb the ladder with me on Patreon: patreon.com/lawvs
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    • @Vikii2024
      @Vikii2024 10 днів тому

      ❤❤❤👍👍

    • @Ronny999x
      @Ronny999x 10 днів тому

      Ocon isn't the Fastest out of the Two Drivers. Gasly had Heavier parts until recently. Ocon has admitted in his rant..

  • @kiwi_commander
    @kiwi_commander 10 днів тому +363

    Esteban didn't make himself any favors with his post-race commentary either. Calling himself a "nice guy" was very awkward and full of sarcasm. If I was a team principal considering Ocon as a driver, that would really put me off. He really needs to just be quiet and play nice.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +78

      Yep. The radio communications were not good either.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 10 днів тому +2

      .....U MIGHT BE RIGHT, BUT......DONT TAKE F1 AS ISOLATED BUBBLE OF REALITY, THO......BECAUSE *_POLITICAL PURPOSES_* , DUDE......AND WE *MUST* CONSIDER POLITICS WHEN TALK ABOUT *_FRENCH_*
      .....PLEASE ....ABOUT....WHO'S OWN THE TEAM??IS TEAM LIKE ON ITSELF BY ITSELF??OR *_maybe_* IT'S WAY MORE COMPLICATED???WAY *_MUCH_* MORE, THO???
      ........U SHOULDVE KNOWN THAT *_THERE'S A POLITICAL PROJECT OF 100% FRENCH TEAM_* IS AROUND FOR QUITE LOTS OF TIME............AND *only* THANKS TO THIS PROJECT OCON GOT AT TEAM AT 1ST PLACE....ALONG WITH GASTLY.....AND IT IS *_NOT_* A COINCENDENCE THAT 2 FRENCH DRIVERS AT FRENCH TEAM...........
      ......YEAH YOU'VE GOT IT RIGHT....... *_OCON MAY ACTUALLY STAY AT TEAM AND THERE'LL A HUGE PURGES FROM NON FRENCH STAFF MAY WILL FOLLOW_* ...........BECAUSE OCON IS PUSHING MAINLY ON *THAT* PRESSURE POINT........ABOUT HE'S DOING NOT WELL BECAUSE OF ALL NON FRENCH HAVING GRUDGE AGAINST HIM, FRENCH GUY AT FRENCH TEAM
      ............BUT YOU DONT SEE IT'S COMING BECAUSE CANNOT THINK OUTSIDE OF BOX WHEN I'M DOING THIS ALL THE TIME........

    • @Dishanta_Goswami
      @Dishanta_Goswami 10 днів тому +67

      ​@@robotnikkkk001Why do you type like that?

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 10 днів тому +39

      @@Dishanta_Goswami Schizo

    • @Chemzborgor
      @Chemzborgor 10 днів тому +12

      ​@@robotnikkkk001 hey buddy you left caps lock on

  • @vhe9560
    @vhe9560 10 днів тому +196

    We sure have all kinds of breakups this year.
    Alpine and Ocon are promising to be ugly. Mercedes and Hamilton is getting messier and messier with the passage of time.
    Sainz and Ferrari are suprisingly professional. Sauber and Zhou/Bottas show some signs of breaking. And it's easy to forget that Haas and Hülkenberg part ways as well, because there was no obvious strain so far.
    Wild how different things can be.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +56

      With this one you sense that both parties are not keen on resolving it. At least with Sainz he is trying to make a good impression.

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 10 днів тому +40

      Mercedes and Hamilton has been sinking since "we know the car is bad, please just drive it" if not before then.

    • @johnpatricklim4509
      @johnpatricklim4509 10 днів тому +4

      Haas and Hulkenberg are quiet so far...no salty messages between the two....

    • @resathe6760
      @resathe6760 10 днів тому +23

      I don't think there will be any bad blood between Hulk and Haas. He has a seat for next year and brings them the best results they can hope for with the car they have.

    • @CA-mm5wy
      @CA-mm5wy 10 днів тому

      @@LawVS Bad management on Alpine's side. I think either Luca de Meo has lost interest in Alpine or doesn't know what is really required.

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 10 днів тому +225

    Speak for yourself, I love watching the French team being French.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 10 днів тому +5

      ...DUDE, RENAULT HQ LOVES THIS AS WELL, THO...HEHE
      ....AND THEY'LL TAKE THE ACTION QUITE SOON, THO...

    • @andreaslowenstein623
      @andreaslowenstein623 10 днів тому +4

      same, I love to see hulkenberg for audi. some sort of patriotism or cheering for nationality can keep you going. And I was a ferrari fan when schumi left and vettel left afterwards. But Ferrari is regardless of drivers not my favorites. And yes, I never liked mercedes, regardless of all the victories

    • @zeroelus
      @zeroelus 10 днів тому +2

      LOL.
      Robin Williams doing one of his "French" characters comes to mind after reading your comment.

    • @mallerschwab980
      @mallerschwab980 10 днів тому +5

      I mean at least the french can manage their government, in comparison to the uk

    • @markuss4133
      @markuss4133 10 днів тому +1

      Speak for yourself. I dont like Alpine with their untalented french drivers. See what i did there

  • @wile123456
    @wile123456 10 днів тому +34

    > has never acted nice before
    > infamous for being a bad teammate
    > ignores team orders
    > follows team orders for the first time in a long career:
    "I'm too nice"
    Esteban is only a nice guy if you add " around "nice". Like incels who feel entitled to a relationship because they gave a girl 1 flower, Esteban thinks being a team player once makes him a saint. And just like the incel saying "no more mister nice guy" before doing another school shooting, Esteban just shows his true colours: that he has never been nice.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +9

      Which is why the comment threw me...

  • @AJ-zy9jf
    @AJ-zy9jf 10 днів тому +132

    I have a hard time seeing Ocon driving for another team when he acts like this. Why would any team want to deal with this at all?

    • @Jona-cn3le
      @Jona-cn3le 10 днів тому +4

      I think it shouldn't matter. Mainly focus on performance. But also try to make up a little in the team.

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому +17

      I think he's done in all honesty. He's not making himself marketable at all other than people calling him "The Incredible Sulk" from here on in.

    • @umungus518
      @umungus518 10 днів тому +23

      ​@@Jona-cn3lebut it does matter. His preformances show hes willing to risk the teams entire weekend for very little reward. He is bad for team morale. He is bad for team synergy and a team working together. He is bad for PR. All of that absolutely matters to the success of f1 teams.

    • @kylem324
      @kylem324 10 днів тому +11

      @@Jona-cn3leIt matters on several fronts. Bad PR will hurt relationships with sponsors, and depending on these contracts could have financial penalties/withholding. Being a bad teammate will over a season in all likelihood reduce total WCC points. Possibly reducing their year end ranking and performance bonus from F1. That’s tens of millions. If he crashes repeatedly into his teammates by racing them more aggressively then the rest of the field, then he’s causing hundreds of thousands of damage for each incident. And he’s unsuitable for providing any tutoring for a young driver.

    • @Ashley-wi4ng
      @Ashley-wi4ng 10 днів тому +6

      ​@Jona-cn3le you don't know what a team is do you?

  • @nolanpeters5462
    @nolanpeters5462 10 днів тому +260

    I'm horrible and I have dyslexia. Thought the thumbnail said "No more Mr. Rice guy" and assumed this would be a Tsunoda video

    • @MCRailway18-rl
      @MCRailway18-rl 10 днів тому +15

      its ok, now you know this is not about Tsunoda's video

    • @NiSE_Rafter
      @NiSE_Rafter 10 днів тому +2

      lol

    • @clippygoat
      @clippygoat 10 днів тому +57

      That's something rocketpoweredmohawk would upload

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 10 днів тому +8

      ...ABOUT *_ZHOU_* U WANTED TO SAY, THO??
      ......

    • @nolanpeters5462
      @nolanpeters5462 10 днів тому +4

      @@robotnikkkk001 I think it can be forgiven for forgetting that he's on the grid. I have a feeling that he's gonna be a novelty trivia Driver for the rest of his career. Sometimes it's just like that

  • @Iroquois777
    @Iroquois777 10 днів тому +24

    Bottas and Berman at Haas is a winner

  • @flamingburritto
    @flamingburritto 10 днів тому +21

    Does he not realise that other teams are watching this? Doesn't matter how talented he is and how tough his road was to get here, no one wants an entitled brat on their team who can't co-operate. At one point I would've felt bad if he was removed from F1 before drivers like stroll, but now? Good riddance.

    • @DeathBlocks
      @DeathBlocks 9 днів тому

      Imagine you're a team principal considering Ocon, thinking o well maybe he will learn from this with the serious consequences he is facing. Then you see him show that he is seemingly incapable of changing.

  • @titan_fx
    @titan_fx 10 днів тому +38

    Yeah, it was a great idea to let Ocon and Gasly on the same team, eh?
    Real great idea.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +18

      You got the feeling that at least Otmar knew what he was doing. Bruno, not so much.

    • @Bahbart
      @Bahbart 10 днів тому +22

      Gasly/Ocon could have been a reasonable or even fantastic combination, if only Szafnauer had still been there... The could have challenged eachother as two competing siblings but now their dad left and their stepdad has a complete different parenting style.

    • @michaelfisher7159
      @michaelfisher7159 10 днів тому

      This times 100

    • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
      @JustSomeDinosaurPerson 10 днів тому +2

      Yeah, pretty much everyone called the French civil war from the start lmao

    • @kookiespace
      @kookiespace 9 днів тому

      @@LawVS looking at how oblivious he seemed in the Netflix interviews about the problems in the team... doesn't make me feel like he knew what he was doing lol

  • @tgamagedon
    @tgamagedon 10 днів тому +55

    It's funny, the Kimi 50k per point story is always told as like "no one thought you could score in a Lotus, but Kimi, through sheer driving skill managed to overcome that", when really Lotus just massively underestimated how fast they could develop. In the same time period where Kimi scored about 400 points Romain Grosjean scored 250. Sure he outperformed his team mate, but the car was quite competitive and if he had just performed to Grosjean's level he still would have cost Lotus about 12 million.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +18

      He knew what to do

    • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
      @JustSomeDinosaurPerson 10 днів тому +8

      Finally, someone who doesn't glaze and dramatize the story. I love the Iceman, but people present his Lotus stint as if he did the impossible. When in reality, it is just another case of Lotus being Lotus in F1. Lotus has a history of these kind of financial blunders.

    • @sambaraka5228
      @sambaraka5228 9 днів тому

      Did Romain get the same deal? 50k/point?

    • @tgamagedon
      @tgamagedon 9 днів тому

      @@sambaraka5228 Doubt it

  • @nickgillon2625
    @nickgillon2625 10 днів тому +10

    I'm scratching my head which F1 team would even consider taking on a driver thats not a team player ??

  • @cassandrarose11
    @cassandrarose11 10 днів тому +32

    And Alpine thought Alonso was 'toxic.' 😅

  • @TheMissiIe
    @TheMissiIe 10 днів тому +121

    Prediction: Doohan replaces Ocon before Vegas

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o 10 днів тому +13

      Way before that. Probably within the next 3 races

    • @angelbangtana9885
      @angelbangtana9885 10 днів тому +3

      what, Scotty off Star Trek? that's got my vote

    • @Jude74
      @Jude74 10 днів тому +1

      Watch the video what he said is that contractually speaking he might not be able to do that. The one area that is not rolled up in the cost cap is driver salaries. If he dumps him before the end of the season, he’s gonna have to pay him as well as the other driver. I sincerely doubt the current team principal has that much credibility left where he can do that. I’m suspecting he’s running on fumes as well. Now, if you’re saying they might bench him for the last two races of the season, contractually speaking I still don’t think they’re going to do it. Because if he has a legal right to race, then it could cost them even more. He’s gonna finish out the season.

    • @Oskour117
      @Oskour117 10 днів тому +1

      @@evonne_oit will absolutely never happen 😂

    • @davidmaslenka5940
      @davidmaslenka5940 10 днів тому +3

      I hope for mick to be honest

  • @SantosOverlord
    @SantosOverlord 10 днів тому +7

    Ocon needs to be more mature, he is pretty fast and is a good guy overall, but he is a bit childish and that makes him lose a LOT, Gasly right now is riding the wave and putting his head down to look the mature one, all Ocon needed to say at the end of the race would be "How close was Gasly to pass Daniel?" ...."OK"

  • @gilded_lady
    @gilded_lady 10 днів тому +15

    If this stays this ugly, I think Alpine will swallow the $$ hit and kick him out over the summer break.

  • @BODEGAtrashofficial
    @BODEGAtrashofficial 10 днів тому +11

    He really could have just been quiet and finished off the season trying to be as unassuming as possible but nope. I hoped the Monaco debacle and getting fired would at least be a wake up call but it seems he is only doubling down on his prior attitude. Ocon has repeatedly shown he won't change; I have almost zero sympathy if he can't get a seat next year. He's a quick driver but his ego and attitude are so bad I wouldn't blame any team for not wanting his baggage.

    • @geonerd
      @geonerd 10 днів тому

      Yea, my Sympathy-O-Meter is flat-lined. [\.............]

    • @DeathBlocks
      @DeathBlocks 9 днів тому

      Imagine being a better driver on paper than some of the others who are competing for seats, getting fired in large part because of your attitude, and still not being able to keep that attitude in check. The impression that gives is you are either incapable or unwilling to change.

  • @MahF1V10
    @MahF1V10 10 днів тому +17

    I would not have renewed either driver. Start with a clean slate and possibly an actual team principal.

    • @CA-mm5wy
      @CA-mm5wy 10 днів тому +2

      The latter first...

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому +3

      Who knows - maybe Famin is actually seeing if he can get rid of both.

    • @MrChoklad
      @MrChoklad 10 днів тому +2

      A stable team principal? What an absurd idea, why would renault ever do that?

  • @ivaneurope
    @ivaneurope 10 днів тому +62

    At this point Renault should just cut their losses and sell everything to Michael Andretti and Cadillac

    • @aoife1122
      @aoife1122 10 днів тому +11

      Nobody is selling their F1 team for the foreseeable future. They're literally "money printing machines" now ... even Alpine (with a ton of B-celebrities throwing money at them like there's no tomorrow ;). Only chance woulda been "Bull Racing" (Jacques Villeneuve) if the FIA had pulled the plug on "owning more than one team" but Red Bull have survived this round of Concord negotiations.

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому +2

      Just forget it - Andretti isn't getting in - especially going to the House of Representatives over this. He signed his F1 team death warrant there.

    • @Ceece20
      @Ceece20 10 днів тому

      @@heliumtrophyit was already a death warrant because F1 is a private boys club. They were never going to accept new teams when they can print infinite theoretical value by never selling their spots. Andretti is just doing the right thing by exposing it to the world.

  • @JJJackson777
    @JJJackson777 10 днів тому +7

    even if Ocon was an insanely impressive and a world class, world renown driver like Hunt or Senna, i'd still find his brand of snark distasteful & unlikeable. To me, it comes across as petulant and pathetic as opposed to free and resilient, far, far from charismatic.

  • @aprilkurtz1589
    @aprilkurtz1589 10 днів тому +31

    I wonder if the FIA will actually ban Magnussen if he gets to 12 points. Because if they show their famous reluctance to do so, it will kind of give Magnussen a license to drive as crazy as he wants, won't it? And To paraphrase the Monagasque Mumbler: "Jaques Villeneuve is and always will be, stupid."

    • @NeonColored
      @NeonColored 3 дні тому +1

      they're making sure he doesn't even get there, otherwise he would've been banned for his murder attempt on Perez in Monaco already.

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 3 дні тому +1

      @@NeonColored The FIA is so squeamish and inconsistent with regards to license points and it's doling out penalties during a race...sometimes it's too much, sometimes it's not enough, they need to get the stewarding together, too.

  • @nicofolkersma2535
    @nicofolkersma2535 10 днів тому +9

    Personally I think Alpine simply wanted to see if mr "Nice Guy" was able and willing to follow teamorders.

  • @MarkMateljan-kc8ip
    @MarkMateljan-kc8ip 10 днів тому +10

    This is called, " shitting in your own nest " I'd probably get rid of the both of them, there are so many good drivers in the stage wings just waiting for an opportunity.

  • @nortim4592
    @nortim4592 10 днів тому +5

    Ocon is out of his mind atm, angry and what it seems without understanding that most of it is his own fault!

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse 10 днів тому +26

    Here's a wicked thought:
    What if Bruno Famin isn't so much incapable of controlling his drivers as he is intentionally not controlling them? Ocon going off and doing Ocon things would suit Bruno if he really wants shot of him. Meanwhile he can observe Gasly's behaviour to see if their other 'driver' is actually worth holding on to. Given where -Renault- Alpine is at present now is the time to poke a few bears and see what's what.
    I know... hardly the most constructive management style, but how many managers have any of us met whom we would consider good at their jobs?

    • @CA-mm5wy
      @CA-mm5wy 10 днів тому +1

      I think Ocon has become very frustrated after nearly 4 years at Alpine. Who wouldn't be?

    • @MissMoonlightStreak
      @MissMoonlightStreak 2 дні тому

      I've had an old boss do exactly this!

  • @chiggawaffle04
    @chiggawaffle04 10 днів тому +3

    I remember constantly checkin the news back in 2018 to see if Ocon got a seat, being sad when he didnt, and being hyped to see him back in the grid in 2020. Even when he was getting hate throughout the years, I didnt mind his more selfish tendencies because I think it makes the grid more interesting (same way I feel about Russell). It might be cuz Im Gasly biased but Im really not liking Esteban recently. I hope he stays in F1 (because hes good enough to stay) but he needs to figure out his PR stuff

  • @Lisvonian
    @Lisvonian 10 днів тому +6

    I’m not as down on Bruno’s stewardship of the team tbh. Inheriting the Gasly/Ocon timebomb, and a team that is/was functionally a laughing stock is a tough sell (clearly because no one wants to touch the job).
    Ocon knows this, and to keep pushing the boundaries is irresponsible. The fact he’d gotten away with this before, the team siding with him against Fernando (allegedly), probably emboldened him but that is the fault of the Renault Group itself.
    The team is a joke, and has been since rejoining as a works outfit. A massive and successful car manufacturer parked in 5th or 6th place no matter what is astounding

  • @AmsterdamHeavy
    @AmsterdamHeavy 10 днів тому +23

    The only F1 driver with a 3 charisma.

    • @julianr.7186
      @julianr.7186 10 днів тому +2

      3 minus.

    • @carlcastle1745
      @carlcastle1745 10 днів тому +6

      @@julianr.71863 is the lowest ability score possible, if you don’t include any modifiers, in Dungeons and Dragons

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому

      That high? Wow they were generous!

    • @dzikripratama3776
      @dzikripratama3776 10 днів тому

      The bad
      The good
      Somewhat middle along the way

    • @chrisw9445
      @chrisw9445 10 днів тому

      Lance stroll anyone ?

  • @dingodave89
    @dingodave89 10 днів тому +8

    Ocon has ruined any chance he has at signing a future F1 contract now. He has shown that he believes himself to be bigger than the team as a whole and no team wants a driver who has such an ego and lacks the skill and consistency to back it up. He isn't a team player and that is a deal breaker for everyone i think.

  • @julianr.7186
    @julianr.7186 10 днів тому +5

    "No more Mr nice guy"?? Exactly WHEN was Ocon a nice guy?? (much less a Mr.)

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому

      He vowed to be nice and then in interviews mentioned he had been "too nice".

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 10 днів тому

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @Salomundo
    @Salomundo 10 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the vid as usual!

  • @reshmapm2578
    @reshmapm2578 10 днів тому +18

    We can't assume gasly and alpine are completely innocent in any of these scenarios.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +9

      Nope. The entire team needs a refresh or Gasly to have a more calming influence.

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 10 днів тому +3

    Alpine got what they wanted.
    Instead of getting 2 good drivers, they wanted 2 FRENCH DRIVERS, not saying Gasly is a bad driver but to focus on nationality of drivers to match the nationality of the team was never the smartest idea.

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ 10 днів тому

      And guess what a Frenchman hates the most after the Brits and Royalties: Another Frenchman.

  • @Lovit-vk5fg
    @Lovit-vk5fg 10 днів тому +3

    When has a driver that is not a number 2 driver been cool about giving the place to his team mate and not getting it back? Mr Rice Guy wasnt too happy about it a few weeks ago

  • @bencousins7311
    @bencousins7311 10 днів тому +4

    I thought Ryan and Rob just invested their "star power" and didn't actually put any money into the team ?

    • @resathe6760
      @resathe6760 10 днів тому +5

      those whole group of investors bought 24% of shares of Alpine so they definitely invested money

  • @LeTon75
    @LeTon75 8 днів тому +1

    That’s the cleanest attic/loft I’ve ever seen not a spot of dust or cobweb in sight

  • @englishvoodoo676
    @englishvoodoo676 10 днів тому +3

    What makes anyone think he will be offered a contract?

  • @BruceKarrde
    @BruceKarrde 10 днів тому +3

    Who needs to watch "As the World Turns" or "The Bold and the Beautiful" or even "Days of our lives" when you have breakup season in F1 before new regulations hit :)

  • @thaboye3536
    @thaboye3536 8 днів тому +2

    Daniel riccardo isn’t finding any groove mate, he had 1 alright weekend, he’ll be back to being shite in Spain mate

  • @JoshyS656
    @JoshyS656 10 днів тому +3

    In all honesty, i am here for an Esteban Ocon revenge tour

  • @cococalm
    @cococalm 10 днів тому +2

    Sadly, Ocon is like old chewing gum on the sidewalk. Unsightly, and a menace to anyone walking on it. And this is why he is not wanted on the grid. He will not be on the grid next year, and for my 2c worth, I am more hopeful for what follows than any possibility he remains on the grid.

  • @HelloWorld-ts7xb
    @HelloWorld-ts7xb 10 днів тому +24

    I don't understand why people are surprised that ocon and gasly is not working together They are French what do you expect

    • @resathe6760
      @resathe6760 10 днів тому +1

      Where is anyone surprised? Everyone is surprised they even lasted this long without escalating.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +3

      I think people were hopeful it would remain calm like it was for most of 2023. Relatively calm.

  • @salim_abid_
    @salim_abid_ 8 днів тому +1

    Esteban and Verstappen at Redbull would be absolute cinema lol

  • @joshswain9288
    @joshswain9288 10 днів тому +8

    Both were in the wrong but ocon didn’t need to be that petty and salty on the radio it’s like he thinks it’s ocon racing team and not alpine things could get ugly if this continues and could try and sabotage Gasly knowing his treatment of teammates and history with Gasly but I don’t see him at any team because of his attitude bearman doesn’t need a driver who has a reputation of being a bad teammate nico doesn’t need someone with the ego of ocon and same with albon especially Russell him and ocon would never work ocon is in a terrible position

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 10 днів тому

      ...DUDE, RENAULT HQ WATCHES EVERY SINGLE RACE.....SO ALL THESE PLEADS THAT OCON IS DOING....ARE FORWARDED TOWARDS *_THEM_* .......AND THEY ACTUALLY WILL TAKE THE ACTION SOON
      ........YUP,THEY'RE BUILDING 100% FRENCH TEAM, AND ABOUT FRENCH DRIVER BEEN BULLIED BY FOREIGNERS IN FRENCH TEAM...........TALK ABOUT *_NATIONALISM_* WHICH FRENCH ARE FAMOUS FOR
      .....YEAH, ESTEBAN IS BEEN HATED BY TEAM.......BUT .....DOES TEAM EXIST BY THEIR OWN???......OR MAYBE, *_JUST MAYBE_* , THEY'RE AN EXHIBITION TEAM OF FRENCH NATION TOWARDS ALL WORLD, THO??????
      ........PLEASE INCLUDE *THIS* INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION ALONG WITH BOTH GASTLY AND OCON WERE GOTTEN IN TEAM SOLELY BY *POLITICAL* PURPOSE.............

  • @jesseshore3873
    @jesseshore3873 10 днів тому +1

    How does Renault not have the money to pay off Ocon, I feel like that should be a bigger story, they’re one of the world’s major car manufacturers.

  • @Slimmeyy
    @Slimmeyy 10 днів тому +1

    Honestly, Ocon is not the most crucial person to sack for Alpine. Famin has to go ASAP.

  • @Guyver02USA
    @Guyver02USA 10 днів тому +15

    - Just when u thought Ocon had a silencing good race ( & deserving of a DOTD award ) , he came out with such crap behavior
    Team order or not , now is not a good time to make yourself looking worse than you are due to Monaco .
    Such disdain , regardless of what he really feel at that time , should be kept within team debriefs and not exposed for radio comms sniping .
    Ocon is really not helping himself .

    • @joaofrancisco1760
      @joaofrancisco1760 10 днів тому +6

      Agreed about the way he handled it! But he did got screwed by the team though

    • @insightworld422
      @insightworld422 10 днів тому +1

      Why was the team order even given though? Why are we mad about a valid criticism

  • @spdrcr74
    @spdrcr74 10 днів тому

    Your attic keeps getting better and better. Well done.

  • @Eagleracer38x
    @Eagleracer38x 10 днів тому +2

    He's going to need to think about whether or not he wants to get fired before the end of the season or be on the gird next year...

    • @geonerd
      @geonerd 10 днів тому

      He will be fired. (A wild-assed guess, but I'll make it!)
      He will not have an F1 drive for 2025. (I feel a little more certain of that.)

    • @Eagleracer38x
      @Eagleracer38x 10 днів тому +1

      I think he's to make an more and more ass out of himself every race until Alpine and/or the FIA removes him from the seat at Alpine and maybe F1 entirely. Maybe being banned from FIA series for awhile, or losing his Super Licence.

  • @vegasab7186
    @vegasab7186 10 днів тому +2

    French team.....French drivers.......squabbling like Frenchmen.......
    Score: par

  • @ivanwhite8004
    @ivanwhite8004 10 днів тому +2

    Idk if it works differ in other countries but could Alpine have just said he had actions detrimental to the team and suspend him it happens often in the NFL or NBA & MLB

  • @Suicaedere666
    @Suicaedere666 10 днів тому +1

    "You're tearing me apart, Este!!!" Lmfaolmfao😂😂
    You rock Law, keep up the great work brother🔥⚡️💜

  • @marsp.1620
    @marsp.1620 10 днів тому +2

    either way, regardless of outside factors, ocon is the only one responsible for his actions (the same goes for everyone)

  • @Miguel-yf4yc
    @Miguel-yf4yc 10 днів тому +1

    What is this about them switching parts

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому

      Switching position

    • @Miguel-yf4yc
      @Miguel-yf4yc 10 днів тому

      @@LawVS oh I meant how ocon said he has a heavier car than gasly right now

  • @lxgxndxry24
    @lxgxndxry24 6 днів тому

    Could you post a video of the cost/benefit analysis for teams for each race points and for the jackpot at the end of the season!? For new viewers it would explain a lot and for experienced viewers where each team struggle during the season.

  • @daxy4822
    @daxy4822 10 днів тому +1

    is it that bad to say Alpine should sell to Andretti and Renault to exit for Cadillac. Alpine already have Ryan Reynolds as a investor so make it an American team to boost the American market.

  • @SuperPassionflower
    @SuperPassionflower 10 днів тому +1

    sounds like a rapidly deteriorating and increasingly toxic disturbed employment relationship and Ocon probably willing to play hard ball in a way while having to put himself out there for any future team. How hard is Williams able and willing to play...

  • @kimm8629
    @kimm8629 10 днів тому

    Is it too much to ask for F2 race videos too??? Love your content and passion, would honestly love to hear your thoughts on them

  • @Tsino69
    @Tsino69 10 днів тому +2

    I'd say he's on his villain arc, but he was never the good guy.

  • @brendonjohnson1031
    @brendonjohnson1031 10 днів тому +1

    i think they should sell to andretti . i also think another reason they don’t want andretti and cadillac is because with the booming american market and the absolutely endless cash that cadillac will bring will make more american races and more screen time for the new richest team.

  • @dannyboy-vtc5741
    @dannyboy-vtc5741 10 днів тому +1

    I don't buy that, they can just swap him with doohan, not fire him as such, keep him under the contract but put him in the simulator, to do his racing work there, as long as they pay him for his time at the team, he can't do squat, and doohan would also accept to swap sim withca real car with the sim car wage for this year.

  • @razielbeoulve819
    @razielbeoulve819 10 днів тому +1

    tbf to Esteban, asking him to swap with 3 laps to go to "attack Danny Ric" seemed ludicrous, unless Danny made a mistake there was zero chance of Gasly overtaking him, it felt like a F U from Alpine, but yeah he should have thought about the optics in front of a future employer, the Im so nice comments just augment his current difficult reputation...

  • @blablablabla297
    @blablablabla297 7 днів тому

    idk when folks at Alpine came to the conclusion that bringing two lifetime enemies together on a team would work

  • @seriousmechanicing
    @seriousmechanicing 10 днів тому +1

    More lines from The Room please.

  • @blinkydoo82
    @blinkydoo82 10 днів тому +1

    The team pay his wages, do as they say. Anything else is just going to be the biggest red flag to any team he wants to join

  • @unknownname6519
    @unknownname6519 10 днів тому +4

    Imagine sacrificing piastri and/or alonso for ocon.. Crazy

  • @the_untitled__
    @the_untitled__ 10 днів тому +1

    Don't forget about Kush Maini he just tested an Alpine f1 car and supposedly impressed. Maini could bring a lot of money in Indian sponsors. He also is supposed to have a few more tests in the 2022 Alpine...

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому

      Oh yes! That's right. If he can have a good F2 campaign, he could perhaps pip Victor Martins to at least the reserve role for 2025.

  • @andrewwinslow9315
    @andrewwinslow9315 6 днів тому +1

    At least the WEC team is doing good. Right? They totally didn't have the most embarrasing performance this year

  • @nanthilrodriguez
    @nanthilrodriguez 10 днів тому +1

    I won't tell you of what I think of Ocon's actions lately.
    I'm too nice.

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling 10 днів тому +1

    Ocon needs to shut his mouth and drive. Yes, having the team against you is hard, but you know you are out. Go and drive... beat your teammate and do it cleanly and quietly.

  • @Behindbend
    @Behindbend 8 днів тому

    What do you stand on to keep your balance up there? Genuinely curious

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  8 днів тому +1

      The actual rungs of the ladder.

  • @alexander1557
    @alexander1557 10 днів тому +1

    Im sorry but i cant really see the idea of both Ocon and team sharing equal fault in all of this. Ocon might act nice outwardly but clearly he has a chip on his shoulder and there is a lot of history as such. If it was all up to him the guy would rather beat his tm8 even if it means he lets four other cars get in front of him and said tm8. He works hard but he acts childish and is disrespectful, thats just that.

  • @neilhoward6528
    @neilhoward6528 8 днів тому

    i dont know if the crash at monaco was all ocon, he was half a car in front of gasly it was a lot easier for gasly to hold back, instead he let himself be run into barrier, it was ocons corner

  • @Rich-rh5qd
    @Rich-rh5qd 10 днів тому +14

    Begging for everyone to rewatch the final ~10 laps of the race. Pierre was legitimately fast and attacking Daniel while both had DRS. I 100% believe (and obviously so did alpine) Pierre was going to pass Daniel once he had a DRS advantage. Problem
    Is ocon dragged is feet letting Pierre by. Slowed Pierre for almost 2 full laps which brought Pierre out of the DRS zone on Daniel. He finally let him by but between corners making sure he wouldn’t even get DRS on a straight to give him any advantage on Daniel. Ocon completely sabotaged a potential p8 for Alpine and Pierre.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +7

      I did see that Pierre was faster than Daniel near the end but Alpine needed to perhaps make the call a few laps earlier.

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому +6

      @@LawVS The way Ocon behaved he would've delayed as much as possible as he did so that he could publicly whine about how everything's not fair, the team sold him a lie and stuff like that. This is the issue. Doesn't matter when Alpine made the call, he would've argued and delayed as much as possible before petulantly giving up the place.

  • @zinddy
    @zinddy 10 днів тому +1

    Maybe zhou could go to alpine, he is a renault junior, pretty decent driver, and backing is pretty important nowdays, so he could be very good replacement

    • @davidmaslenka5940
      @davidmaslenka5940 10 днів тому

      Zho s Form is just too bad right now

    • @BODEGAtrashofficial
      @BODEGAtrashofficial 10 днів тому +1

      Plus unproblematic. Alpine NEEDS an unproblematic driver in the other seat. Although pace wise might not be the best choice. From a marketing side though its a great choice. Zhou brings lots of sponsorship money which Alpine probably needs at this point, and also brings Renault some brand awareness in China which I’m sure the parent company would like. Might not be the quick choice but he would at least be the reserved, sponsor friendly team player that they want with prior ties to the team if Doohan by some chance doesn’t get the seat.

    • @zinddy
      @zinddy 9 днів тому

      @@BODEGAtrashofficial i think zhos pace was very dec at the start of 2022, mqybe he could repeat that

  • @Rycka1
    @Rycka1 10 днів тому +1

    Will Ocon realy land a seat next year? The more it goes the more it looks like the end of his F1 career sadly.

  • @aoife1122
    @aoife1122 10 днів тому +1

    What do you mean, "no more"? When was Estie-Bestie ever "Mr Nice Guy"? 🤣
    And it always amazes me how quick Brit tubers elevate "The Daily Fail" to "credible source status" if they can only somehow hype young Bearman a bit... seriously, no sponsor backing to speak of (which, I hear, is a BIG thing for Haas), his "marketability" worth little more than SFA and, as if this isn't bad enough already, he's well on track of getting trashed in F2 by his teammate for the second year running. Oh, and smashing his car into the barriers at the last race weekend was a surefire way to refresh Haas' memories of their recent rookie debacle with Schumacher and Marzipan. No, Haas won't touch Bearman with a bargepole... unless they're desperately trying to prove Einstein's definition of stupidity wrong. 😉

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому

      Oh I don't buy that Mail Online article at all. I will wait to hear it from Haas before making comment.

    • @aoife1122
      @aoife1122 10 днів тому

      @@LawVS Glad to hear. ;)

  • @freyalove3831
    @freyalove3831 10 днів тому

    I enjoy so much your tidbit talk.

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy 10 днів тому

    Ocon being the only one who argued with his race engineer the day Pierre won in Monza a couple of years back.....Szafnauer really played a blinder on that one getting them two together.

  • @BuuGz86
    @BuuGz86 9 днів тому

    Id honestly sideline Ocon, Put the reserve drive in his car and finish the season with no f drama, and focus on development.

  • @SebastianBeckerPhoto
    @SebastianBeckerPhoto 10 днів тому

    The fineprint in the thumbnail was exactly my thoughts xD

  • @nolanpeters5462
    @nolanpeters5462 10 днів тому +21

    My brother in christ, please Iron your collar on your Rugby shirt

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola 9 днів тому

    Kimi Raikonen getting 19 million in bonuses for racing well contrasts with Ricciardo getting paid 18 million to not drive.

  • @Braga_18
    @Braga_18 10 днів тому +1

    Dude is a menace lol of all the teammates he had they all end up disliking him haha. The problem is him.

  • @topgamer-12621
    @topgamer-12621 10 днів тому

    I will always think that drivers like ocon, stroll, zhou, and Sargeant are very unlucky to be in f1 right now
    1.Ocon can be a good driver but the media and well the team aren't doing a solid at all (remember ocon gave alpine a win in 2021)
    2. Stroll he is very underrated in my books remember he got pole in turkey 2020 and a p2 in monza 2017 quali in very wet and challenging situations but there seems to be hate for realisticly no reason at all.
    3. Zhou the team are constly screwing him over with slow pitstops costing him point finishes and now that nico has signed for stake sauber he has a 50/50 of not continuing with the team
    4. Sargeant Williams essentially gave him a seat too early so he had no real good performances other than the point in texas last year, then this year they took his car and gave it to alex who crashed is own car to begin with then Williams are giving Logan outdated parts of the car and while giving alex new parts and then now that Williams are looking to have a resurgence in performance for 25 and 26 so Williams are looking for other drivers with better skill so i fear that logans time in f1 is up now.

  • @Lups-fk5qr
    @Lups-fk5qr 10 днів тому

    I’ve heard some rumors about Drugovitch in Audi, Thoughts?

  • @mp247d
    @mp247d 10 днів тому

    Didnt they make the call to swap quite a but earlier?

  • @TeddylsALiar
    @TeddylsALiar 10 днів тому +3

    Bonjour

  • @Act1veSp1n
    @Act1veSp1n 10 днів тому

    Told you, Ocon is a habitual line stepper.

  • @mikey380sx
    @mikey380sx 9 днів тому

    Pierre has maturity in spades, the same cannot be said for Esteban. The only person he should be mad at for his career taking a slow downward spiral is Esteban.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  9 днів тому +1

      Yes he is more mature but it doesn't mean that anger doesn't come over him sometimes. But true, ocon's red mist spreads.

  • @Dani-it5sy
    @Dani-it5sy 8 днів тому

    If someone asks you what a 'brat' is use Ocon as an example. He fits the definition quite well.

  • @herrlucho
    @herrlucho 8 днів тому

    Reference from The Room. Nice

  • @InfiniteSuccessAcademy
    @InfiniteSuccessAcademy 10 днів тому

    Looks good on Bruno Famin after ceremoniously removing Otmar Szafnauer - who he thought could not handle the two French drivers. Otmar may have been the better choice to handle the squabbling Frenchies, after all. Bruno has no idea what he's doing and how to handle a driver's delicate and complicated psyche. Oh well, such is the way with the French - all of them are always right - all at the same time! Just my opinion, yours is welcome.

  • @RecklessBikesTV
    @RecklessBikesTV 10 днів тому

    Raikkonen agreed to take a deal in-order to not bankrupt the team. I think they ended up with a deal around 7-9 million euros in bonuses in the end. Still he put in a shift and the team couldn't keep their promise. Failure is in the Enstone DNA as much as success is. They need to fix the weaknesses, even if it leaves them weaker short termso they can the challenge a comeback.

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  10 днів тому +1

      It's still quite a bloody nose from a deal.

  • @MishaTavkhelidze
    @MishaTavkhelidze 10 днів тому

    Changing the color base of stills is SUPER annoying.

  • @desshinnick9365
    @desshinnick9365 10 днів тому

    On the plus side, Alpine are going to get a lot of media coverage. Right now they have a Famin.
    Their situation will not get better with poor leadership.

  • @usherd369
    @usherd369 10 днів тому

    I like the OG title of this video 😊

  • @reflectionssplashbacks
    @reflectionssplashbacks 10 днів тому

    Off topic. Re Ricardo. I just wonder if he is as promising at RB are claiming at guiding the Team and helping Yuki - Why are other teams knocking at his door. As he is off contract at the end of the year.
    Seems that Horner is the only reason he is still racing and that could shatter Liam Lawsons dream and possibly his. Career.
    Bias New Zealander by the way

  • @ashaide
    @ashaide 9 днів тому

    Why would paying off an unwanted driver be bad? I love Danny Ric but that move worked very well for McLaren.
    If Esteban is a problem NOW that the entire organization can't wait to get rid of, then why not bite the financial bullet and pay him off to sit the rest of the season out?
    How much will that cost? And how much will a place or even two up the Constructor's due to a more... harmonious driver pairing will that mitigate?

    • @LawVS
      @LawVS  9 днів тому

      It's money that could otherwise go toward investing in the team itself. Their outside investors would rather not be sending their cash into Ocon's pockets.

    • @ashaide
      @ashaide 8 днів тому

      @@LawVS But isn't that the price of doing business? They're here to see their investments grow. And Reynolds for one seems like a long-term goals kind of guy given how he and his friend dealt with their investment in that football club.
      I'm saying that it may be better bang-for-their-buck decision to just give Ocon that money now if it translates to better outcomes even on the immediate term.
      Bruno's statement post-Monaco seems like it comes from someplace deep. In any other industry, "consequences" would almost always mean your firing, or at least suspension. Even if in the former they have to give you separation pay.

    • @ashaide
      @ashaide 8 днів тому

      @@LawVS Or think about it in the case of failed CEOs. Boards and investors have no qualms of giving CEOs a golden parachute worth millions at least, even when that CEO almost bankrupts the company. That's A LOT of investor money given to someone everyone wanted out and out they went.
      How is this any different, industry incongruence notwithstanding?