You typically have to prove they knew the law, they typically argue lack of training, hence the warning and getting away with it the "first time" (that can be proven) after which there now a paper chain that they knew that law. Except a disciplanry hearing is ALLWAY approprate, even when you indent to fire them, espical in an union shop like this. this is where you get a chance to refute the allgations, supply evidince that you weret at fual and somone was trying the pass the buck onto you. You right a Warnong as result is a suttible outcome but the back to lack of training, a company should as part of onborading provinding the training that servers as proof they knew the law in the first place.
I'm not surprised that the duty manager went against "Steve". In the UK we have extremely strict work laws, and if there's a union involved, any company with any sense will stick to the letter of the law. The duty manager would have been, well, duty bound to tell them everything they knew about. They probably didn't like Steve either lol.
I’ve heard the attendance one before and that “manager” should have been fired way before this. Every employee should have sued them for her lack of letting them in on time. They had a slam dunk case there. And it prolly would have bankrupted them if the employees did.
The only power an employer has over you is your 'desire' to continue. Once that desire is gone, so is the power. Some of them don't comprehend that and proceed to alienate your desire in dramatic fashion. In that situation when they tell you to go find another job they never expect you to say "OK, bye."
Story 3 - in the UK you are not supposed to go back to work for 48 hours after vomiting to avoid infecting other employees. I identify with Steve - I still have vivid memories of the same problem from decades ago. Thank goodness I could hang my head over the sink whilst on the toilet.
Story 3: Steve was very lucky he was not immediately fired for committing an illegal act that could have cost the company a lot of money but also for lying about it in his hearing. Story 4: Seriously OP? Those two checks were something that you were already owed! A real severance package would have been much, much more than your already-owed pay. A payment of at least triple that amount would have been a good start as you could easily get way more than that if you sued them. Especially with the negative publicity involved. PS> Screw you, Rick!
last story what the heck was her severance package? cause I'm pretty sure labor law attorney would have bent that company over for more than just her 60 hours plus 80 hours.
In the attendance story Manager was supposed to edit the attendance report and send it out themselves instead of having OP run it and send it. Because the manager forced OP to send it without edits, the corporate system flagged the 15 employees to be fired. The workaround you were asking about is simply the manager editing the attendance themselves.
Re: The duty manager and Steve, Rob's comment makes sense to me, the duty manager could be gunning for the seat Steve's rump is likely going to be vacating, buuut people having selfish motives can still enact some good, like helping OP out :)
Attendance Story: Assuming this Story happened in Canada or the USA, no actually the Store's Firing Policy is NOT Legal... Yes they can be Fired for being late too many times, HOWEVER, for that Termination to be Legal, first the Company MUST give a Verbal Warning (with a note in their Employee File indicating they got the Verbal Warning, when and why), followed by a Written Warning and then and ONLY then can they Fire you... Also, leaving Employees out in the cold past their Shift Start Time is also Illegal... If OP and the rest of the Warehouse Employees file a Complaint with the Department (USA)/Ministry (Canada) of Labor, then Company Manglement would get absolutely REAMED!!!
Last story: i hate it when people take the severance because they are "too tired" to argue. a gender discrimination lawsuit would cost the company millions.
Maybe, but it would have been hell trying to prove that what happened was gender discrimination. Not to mention it would probably take a VERY long time, and a lot of money because no lawyer would take that case on a contingency.
Nice job on the pronunciation on the phoenix story, i came from there and the number of out if towners who couldn't pronounce the cities in the area always made me chuckle
Unlike some other people I've heard on UA-cam, I take the time to look up pronunciations if I'm not 100% sure. I've had a bunch of Karens in the comments before ripping me a new one because of pronunciation 🤣
More importantly, you shouldn't go to Emergency/Walk-In Clinic with a Cold or Flu UNLESS you're blowing chunks out both ends so badly that you're at risk of Severe Dehydration... Then the Emergency Room can treat you with Anti-Nausea and Anti-Diarrhea Meds and pump IV fluids in to keep you from suffering from the complications Extreme Dehydration can cause... Antibiotics are effectively worthless due to overuse causing Resistant Super-bugs to develop and Doctors are trying to not use Antivirals unless EXTREMELY needed to try preventing Resistant Super-Bugs from developing among Viruses too...
Unfortunately, chameleon, your response to the first, it's post thinking logically about how the manager could fire? People assumed that big corporations with no training jobs, work on logic and intelligence. The part in the post, where it says the manager couldn't argue or feel against that means when effect, they actually have to fire them to me.Because the machine opened to and top end, corporate always believes the machine
Working in retail you had some really bad managers? Is it possible to become retail manager and not be a huge screwup that is not allowed to use common sense at all?
S 1 Reminds me of ki la ry and the Haiti dia rrh ea victims. Collect $ 100 in donations, spend $ 95 on gala dinners for donors and trust expenses (incl rushing around in own jets) and perhaps, maybe, hand over $ 5 to Haiti.
This name places much better in search results and is much easier for people to remember :) Also, removes the chances of us being sued for our name being way too close to the 80's song.
Steve should have been fired and prosecuted for that. A “disciplinary hearing” isn’t acceptable when it’s a blatant violation of laws.
You typically have to prove they knew the law, they typically argue lack of training, hence the warning and getting away with it the "first time" (that can be proven) after which there now a paper chain that they knew that law.
Except a disciplanry hearing is ALLWAY approprate, even when you indent to fire them, espical in an union shop like this. this is where you get a chance to refute the allgations, supply evidince that you weret at fual and somone was trying the pass the buck onto you. You right a Warnong as result is a suttible outcome but the back to lack of training, a company should as part of onborading provinding the training that servers as proof they knew the law in the first place.
I'm not surprised that the duty manager went against "Steve". In the UK we have extremely strict work laws, and if there's a union involved, any company with any sense will stick to the letter of the law. The duty manager would have been, well, duty bound to tell them everything they knew about. They probably didn't like Steve either lol.
I’ve heard the attendance one before and that “manager” should have been fired way before this. Every employee should have sued them for her lack of letting them in on time. They had a slam dunk case there. And it prolly would have bankrupted them if the employees did.
Same here, I've thought that every time this story popped up (a few times).
The only power an employer has over you is your 'desire' to continue. Once that desire is gone, so is the power. Some of them don't comprehend that and proceed to alienate your desire in dramatic fashion. In that situation when they tell you to go find another job they never expect you to say "OK, bye."
Story 3 - in the UK you are not supposed to go back to work for 48 hours after vomiting to avoid infecting other employees. I identify with Steve - I still have vivid memories of the same problem from decades ago. Thank goodness I could hang my head over the sink whilst on the toilet.
Story 3: Steve was very lucky he was not immediately fired for committing an illegal act that could have cost the company a lot of money but also for lying about it in his hearing.
Story 4: Seriously OP? Those two checks were something that you were already owed! A real severance package would have been much, much more than your already-owed pay.
A payment of at least triple that amount would have been a good start as you could easily get way more than that if you sued them. Especially with the negative publicity involved.
PS> Screw you, Rick!
last story what the heck was her severance package? cause I'm pretty sure labor law attorney would have bent that company over for more than just her 60 hours plus 80 hours.
In the attendance story
Manager was supposed to edit the attendance report and send it out themselves instead of having OP run it and send it. Because the manager forced OP to send it without edits, the corporate system flagged the 15 employees to be fired.
The workaround you were asking about is simply the manager editing the attendance themselves.
Oh course Rick was a Richard, he OBVIOUSLY didn’t want to admit his parents named him after their favorite sporting goods store!
Ah... Ancient Educator... another gem from this OP.
And another Gem... SCREW YOU, RICK!
Re: The duty manager and Steve, Rob's comment makes sense to me, the duty manager could be gunning for the seat Steve's rump is likely going to be vacating, buuut people having selfish motives can still enact some good, like helping OP out :)
Freight firing, the way I see it if any of those people could prove/ decided to get a lawyer that company is facing a class action
Attendance Story: Assuming this Story happened in Canada or the USA, no actually the Store's Firing Policy is NOT Legal...
Yes they can be Fired for being late too many times, HOWEVER, for that Termination to be Legal, first the Company MUST give a Verbal Warning (with a note in their Employee File indicating they got the Verbal Warning, when and why), followed by a Written Warning and then and ONLY then can they Fire you...
Also, leaving Employees out in the cold past their Shift Start Time is also Illegal...
If OP and the rest of the Warehouse Employees file a Complaint with the Department (USA)/Ministry (Canada) of Labor, then Company Manglement would get absolutely REAMED!!!
Last story: i hate it when people take the severance because they are "too tired" to argue. a gender discrimination lawsuit would cost the company millions.
Maybe, but it would have been hell trying to prove that what happened was gender discrimination. Not to mention it would probably take a VERY long time, and a lot of money because no lawyer would take that case on a contingency.
Problem is, it also costs the person suing money, and they often don't have that much. You MIGHT get a lawyer to take it on contingency. MAYBE.
Stop 2 is so easy to fix. Door person opens the side door 5 minutes before clock in and locks 5 minutes after.
It's been a while since we had a good Screw You, Rick! So yeah. Screw you, Rick.
Nice job on the pronunciation on the phoenix story, i came from there and the number of out if towners who couldn't pronounce the cities in the area always made me chuckle
Unlike some other people I've heard on UA-cam, I take the time to look up pronunciations if I'm not 100% sure. I've had a bunch of Karens in the comments before ripping me a new one because of pronunciation 🤣
@KarmaStoriesPodcast super good job on it 🥰
GET WREKT RICK!!!
A Malicious Compliance Video and it took the ENTIRE Video before we got the Obligatory Screw You Rick!?
Are you feeling OK Rob?
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That last bastard just told OP to her face that she was his slave. Good god.
More importantly, you shouldn't go to Emergency/Walk-In Clinic with a Cold or Flu UNLESS you're blowing chunks out both ends so badly that you're at risk of Severe Dehydration...
Then the Emergency Room can treat you with Anti-Nausea and Anti-Diarrhea Meds and pump IV fluids in to keep you from suffering from the complications Extreme Dehydration can cause...
Antibiotics are effectively worthless due to overuse causing Resistant Super-bugs to develop and Doctors are trying to not use Antivirals unless EXTREMELY needed to try preventing Resistant Super-Bugs from developing among Viruses too...
Good afternoon
Good afternoon Rob 👍 Have an amazing day 👋🤗
Have a good day everyone 👋🤗
Good afternoon to you too! Enjoy your day.
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I feel that second story has them open to a class action law suit due to the store being responsible for the tardies
That lady in the last post was a god, I hope they’re doing well.
in a way with the experience she had near the end she sounds like she could run a shop/company herself.
Unfortunately, chameleon, your response to the first, it's post thinking logically about how the manager could fire? People assumed that big corporations with no training jobs, work on logic and intelligence.
The part in the post, where it says the manager couldn't argue or feel against that means when effect, they actually have to fire them to me.Because the machine opened to and top end, corporate always believes the machine
Working in retail you had some really bad managers? Is it possible to become retail manager and not be a huge screwup that is not allowed to use common sense at all?
You’ve done at least one of these stories before. Story 2. I stopped there.
S 1 Reminds me of ki la ry and the Haiti dia rrh ea victims. Collect $ 100 in donations, spend $ 95 on gala dinners for donors and trust expenses (incl rushing around in own jets) and perhaps, maybe, hand over $ 5 to Haiti.
How is your True Crime thing called Karma Crime and no Karma Chrimeleon?
Doing my best to not be sued lol
@@KarmaStoriesPodcastI am loving it.
I really miss the old named karma comment chameleon.
This name places much better in search results and is much easier for people to remember :) Also, removes the chances of us being sued for our name being way too close to the 80's song.