Caterham 620R & Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2): the best track car of the last 25 years

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • The Caterham Seven 620R has been voted the best track car of the past 25 years by PHers. But there’s a little more to it than that…
    See, following very close behind in the voting was the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0. And if you could take both cars to Snowdonia for a couple of days - a place that seems custom-made to play host to them - then, of course, you're going to. So that’s exactly what we did. And while they arguably exist at different ends of the road-legal track car spectrum, it is the laser focus on driver reward that separates them from the chasing pack - a pack that included Lamborghini, Ferrari and McLaren. Primarily, both are light, fast, and huge fun. And about as memorable to drive as any motor car gets. Join Matt Bird as all his Christmases come at once.
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  • @PutSomeDsonThatBlink
    @PutSomeDsonThatBlink Рік тому +68

    From experience the best track car is the car you can throw in to a corner as fast as you can without worrying about the costs if you were hit a wall.

  • @jackwilson8651
    @jackwilson8651 Рік тому +3

    His pure joy driving that 620R makes me giggle

  • @stevec6232
    @stevec6232 Рік тому +4

    Love my 9974S. Its a beast and lovely balance in turns. Strangely less manic than M3.

  • @Faust64
    @Faust64 Рік тому +1

    Great vid PH, nie work Matt, keep it all up!

  • @Pyotr_Velikiy
    @Pyotr_Velikiy 11 місяців тому +1

    The Caterham 7 is forever young.

  • @DMAcidRacing
    @DMAcidRacing Рік тому +14

    620r driven properly gives any road going Porsche a clean set of heals and you can see this on my channel!
    Not a Porsche hater, I own a 992 Turbo S so love the Porsche range.
    Great video PH 🤙🏻🏎🚀

  • @markhendry1
    @markhendry1 Рік тому +3

    Both absolutely stunning👌

  • @theparrot8414
    @theparrot8414 Рік тому +4

    There is no doubt the caterham is the ultimate in driving experience for any one that has driven one you will know

  • @lampard9512
    @lampard9512 Рік тому +3

    Great review, next make the ultimate holy grail one, this 4.0 vs 911R

  • @dstewusa7054
    @dstewusa7054 Рік тому +3

    Two of my dream cars - I have one (a non-supercharged 7 CSR with 255hp) but no way I could afford that Porsche without a divorce lol

    • @WeAreDriversCar
      @WeAreDriversCar 10 місяців тому

      my csr260 has a previous owner who bought a 997 GT3 after i picked up the car. I, however, would never give the CSR away again! It is much more raw and exclusive than a Porsche. This feeling on the road is indescribable and no Porsche can ever deliver. And as a naturally aspirated car, it is even more beguiling than the 50hp stronger supercharged 620 without independent suspension. I realy love the induction noise of the high compression and cam tunig.

  • @berniedmd1901
    @berniedmd1901 Рік тому

    What a dream car !!!

  • @ChooChoosGaming
    @ChooChoosGaming Рік тому

    Great content!

  • @mosca3289
    @mosca3289 Рік тому +1

    Good film.

  • @drew699
    @drew699 Рік тому +8

    I’d take the Caterham hands down, every time. No car I’ve ever driven comes even close the the visceral buzz, purity, joy and fun than a quick 7. The 911 is lardy & insulated from the elements. Sadly, people’s obsession with the brand image compels people through fragile ego to choose the porky Porker. If you don’t believe me about just what a natural high a quick 7 conveys, then drive one. Leave your prejudices & ego behind. Dare you. Caterham; there is NO substitute.

  • @JohnRae
    @JohnRae Рік тому

    great video. no clue how you mic'd him up so we could hear him :D also without half doors!

  • @EnormousSmartass
    @EnormousSmartass Рік тому +8

    For future reference: don't upload in 16:9 with bars. Instead just use 21:9 aspect ratio. I'm watching on ultrawide and yeah, I don't have the intended effect :)

  • @timburton1080
    @timburton1080 Рік тому +1

    So glad the 7 took it.

  • @jeroenvanboxtel8801
    @jeroenvanboxtel8801 Рік тому +7

    Love the 997. The new 911 ST will bring back a manual RS motor, June 8th 😊

  • @patrickesteban9581
    @patrickesteban9581 Рік тому +4

    Caterham,Donkenvoort,Lotus Élise,Ariel Atom,Bac Mono R,Dallara barchetta,Radical RXC…..Light is right!😘👍

    • @grahamhaynes7658
      @grahamhaynes7658 Рік тому +1

      Half the weight double the fun,911 is a truck by comparison😂

    • @WeAreDriversCar
      @WeAreDriversCar 10 місяців тому

      even in this nice list, a Caterham is a Caterham...

  • @original2758
    @original2758 Рік тому +3

    Give me the 4.0 GT3 for the street and the go kart for the track and we're good!
    Only thing missing is the convertable top that IS in place in my 02 986 S 3.2 liter. Midnight Metallic blue, IPD Plenum, throttle body upgraded, Fabspeed exhaust, Numeric 6 speed shifter dream machaine ! 😄

  • @danielmaia3559
    @danielmaia3559 Рік тому +4

    bac mono

  • @steventilley2064
    @steventilley2064 5 місяців тому +1

    All Porches are good but only 2 of the Caterham 7's are... the lower powered ones are woefully under powered and will get left behind on track by most things. 620R is a savage beast though and makes up for the lack of aero with power 😂😂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

  • @LawrenceTimme
    @LawrenceTimme Рік тому +1

    Why is half the screen cut out. I feel like im watching through a letter box

  • @jmyd83
    @jmyd83 Рік тому

    😍

  • @thetruthspeaker1978
    @thetruthspeaker1978 Рік тому +1

    And the point of the show 🤔...
    Have a blast driving fast😎

  • @ggongi3141
    @ggongi3141 3 місяці тому

    Where did the BAC Mono finish on this list?

  • @vicjones3992
    @vicjones3992 2 місяці тому

    My mate has a 23 plate 620R....it has had two gearbox rebuilds....not sure that box can cope with the torque from the supercharged engine

  • @fraserrobertson7065
    @fraserrobertson7065 Рік тому

    Might be wrong but is that a large chassis optioned 620R...? Wonder how much of, if any, the impact the large chassis has on performance compared to the regular...

    • @timburton1080
      @timburton1080 Рік тому

      SV does blunt it

    • @WeAreDriversCar
      @WeAreDriversCar 10 місяців тому

      Regardless of the Caterham chassis, you should never have a crash in one! Where there is no crumple zone, no forces are dissipated. You have to drive with a clear head if you want to drive fast. Many reviewers have no idea and don't even know whether they are moving an SV or not, which is why hardly any channel gives this additional information. For me, the SV is always worthwhile. Rough enough, but with the extra space.

  • @sasothestrategizer
    @sasothestrategizer Рік тому +2

    I’m buying Porsche!!!

  • @Chrisvx220
    @Chrisvx220 Рік тому

    No mention of the atom surprises me

  • @jimgia
    @jimgia Рік тому

    So whereis the track time comparison?

  • @kangalitalia6975
    @kangalitalia6975 10 місяців тому

    Dallara Stradale..Where is?

  • @hadrienlf23
    @hadrienlf23 Рік тому +2

    Owner of a fleet of drivers car here. I own a 3.8RS and I do have to agree, it is one of the most tactile and amazing driving experience with my NSX-R. No need to get a 4.0, they are much more fragile, engine issues, gearbox issues, and the difference is only carbon front fender and rose jointed rear arms. Fitted both to my 3.8RS and there is virtually no differences. Those cars are fragile ( cambolt issues, clutch plates failures, pulley damper failure, clutch starter and starters issues, glued coolant lines and plastic shifter cables ), i had them all and probably it is one of the least reliable car i have ever own but once you are on it they are amazing. ( except the gearbox which is shit, only upgrade is 996cup cables and 996 cup shifter to improve things ).

    • @SuperMiloBass
      @SuperMiloBass Рік тому +1

      sounds like you should try a Caterham

    • @verdict1163
      @verdict1163 Рік тому

      How would you compare the GT3 with the NSX?

    • @SuperMiloBass
      @SuperMiloBass Рік тому

      @@verdict1163 On a track, with both trying to keep up with a Caterham...

    • @SuperMiloBass
      @SuperMiloBass Рік тому

      @@verdict1163 Looks like the NXS-R got basically the same lap time on the TG track as an R500 Caterham. Pretty much guaranteed the Caterham would be more fun on the track though - even a less powerful one. The lack of weight is the key.

    • @hadrienlf23
      @hadrienlf23 Рік тому

      @@SuperMiloBass I owned a few cater hams, love them but they are toys, not cars. Driving experience was amazing nonetheless, need the 2.0 durance and 13inch.

  • @original2758
    @original2758 Рік тому

    🤔..... "I like it!"
    Robocop Cop style

  • @partyonsam
    @partyonsam Рік тому

    The best track car is the car you can afford to bend

  • @diggagt3574
    @diggagt3574 Рік тому +1

    I’ve got a 997.1 GT3 3.6 and am confident the 4.0 RS is the best ever. The best place to compare? Two mates enjoying the circuit together on the Nordschleife: ua-cam.com/video/K87S8cdtVJY/v-deo.html

  • @machohogan
    @machohogan Місяць тому

    What makes this “official”? Why not GT2? Both are great cars but if money’s no option there are better, faster, track cars…. I’ll take the Caterham

  • @Lenoch_
    @Lenoch_ Рік тому

    FiRsT¡

  • @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead
    @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead Місяць тому

    Best 911 ever made?
    2.7 RS
    964 RSR
    993 GT2
    All disagree with you. 😅

  • @viowave
    @viowave Рік тому +1

    Dodge Viper ACR..... Nothing more to say .

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS Рік тому +4

    FFS now we will have a load more idiots buying Caterham's. Which means more red flags, more fools not getting out of the way because they suddenly forget that cars without roofs have mirrors and more utterly inept attempts at loading and unloading trailers.
    But yeah Caterham's are great.

  • @BubuBarong
    @BubuBarong Рік тому +3

    BAC Mono all day long.