Cause its chinese. But sometimes beat error is not possible to adjust well menas watch has a problem i can put easly a beat error of 0.1 or 0.2 however in a rolex you cant do it, only 0.5 minimum,, what the fukin problem with rolex? can you explain me this?
I've found a couple of things playing with my various watches and my timegrapher. Other commenters mention that you'll get more accurate results between adjustments by stopping the timegrapher in between. I've also learned that it pays to use a wooden peg, rather than a metal screwdriver, when playing with the tabs for beat error and movement speed. I once slipped with a screwdriver and everything ALMOST went to tears. 😱 Slight, gentle nudges are what wors best on movements like the NH35A. As for that movement, I am surprised at just how well one can regulate those for such an inexpensive movement. I also play with my older Omega watches, most of which have a swans neck on the regulator, making minute adjustments far easier... but of course, even old Omega watches are pretty expensive. Thanks for a concise yet complete video!
Thank you. I was able to regulate my Miyota 9015 to within 2s/d and beat error to .4, then I stopped! Very happy. I noticed that one adjustment drags the other a bit.
It's also a good idea to check the regulation in at least the 6 up and 9 up positions as those are common positions when wearing the watch. Just dual up may result in it not being as accurate when worn.
It is fantastic what performance the Chinese mechanisms achieved. You could see a "taxi" line on the screen only at Rolex... Absolutely fabulous leap for the Chinese watchmaker.
Did you adjust it for one position only? I have found that when I get 0 beat error, 0 sec/day at dial down position, on 12 o'clock down the rate goes -20 sec/day.
When I know the gain/loss in each position, I use this to adjust the time. If the watch is ahead slightly, I leave it off for a while, or when asleep, in a position that the watch loses seconds, and vice versa. It naturally corrects itself without having to unscrew the crown and make adjustments. I don't know if this is better for the watch or not, but it's an easy way to bring the watch back on track.
I’ve done that before and as long it didn’t get tangled you should be fine. I recommend using a tiny spring bar tool to adjust the knobs as they can grab on to them and reduce the chance of slipping down into the hairspring
My seiko sarb035 is running about a min fast . The beat error is 4 which is terrible. I do wear the watch doing things I should not . Like biking . I quess I will need to take it in for a service.
My Seiko divers 6309 have a beat error of 4.0 +120sec per day , how to reduce it, turn the the stud clockwise or counterclockwise ? I'm using a phone app timegrapher
I’m not super familiar with what the inside of that movement looks like but if there is a plus or minus written on the case for regulation try pushing the beat error hand very slightly towards that part of the case
Thanks for the video. I’m going to eventually tackle this myself on my seiko 4R36. Its brand new and currently running at +5 minutes (minutes, not seconds) per day. I’ve called a few jewelers and they seem a bit clueless or won’t work on seiko so i’m doing my research to do it myself.
You're adjusting the rate at the wrong spot. You're moving the regulator arm itself. It should be done by the pointer over by the scale. Better control there than by adjusting the regulator arm directly and you don't have to worry about slipping and stabbing the hairspring.
Hello. I have Omega Speedmaster, very old watch, automatic, and I have this part for regulating, but there is no + and - . It doesn say where is + and where s -. Can this part be adjustet at all? Does every automatic have this part for adjusting it? Now, the watch is in hurry 6 minutes every day.
If it is 6 min fast a day it might just be magnetized. Try demagnetizing it first before you go to the trouble of opening things up and playing with it.
Thanks for this. Just regulated my NH34 GMT movement which was +330s/day and beat error of 9.9ms. I've got it to +1s/day and 0.1ms. Very happy!
is it still running as good after those 8 months?
If you stop the Timegrapher and restart after every adjustment you will get more accurate results since the grapher averages readings.
Thanks for the tip!
Cause its chinese.
But sometimes beat error is not possible to adjust well menas watch has a problem i can put easly a beat error of 0.1 or 0.2 however in a rolex you cant do it, only 0.5 minimum,, what the fukin problem with rolex? can you explain me this?
@@robertokandal If you have an unfixable beat error problem then more often than not you need to demagnetise your watch
Don't move pushers with a screwdriver unles you want to scratch it.
Also, moving from 24s/d to 0s/d is quite a lucky adjustment. :)
very nicely explained and demonstrated. Thank You!
I've found a couple of things playing with my various watches and my timegrapher. Other commenters mention that you'll get more accurate results between adjustments by stopping the timegrapher in between. I've also learned that it pays to use a wooden peg, rather than a metal screwdriver, when playing with the tabs for beat error and movement speed. I once slipped with a screwdriver and everything ALMOST went to tears. 😱 Slight, gentle nudges are what wors best on movements like the NH35A. As for that movement, I am surprised at just how well one can regulate those for such an inexpensive movement. I also play with my older Omega watches, most of which have a swans neck on the regulator, making minute adjustments far easier... but of course, even old Omega watches are pretty expensive. Thanks for a concise yet complete video!
Thank you. I was able to regulate my Miyota 9015 to within 2s/d and beat error to .4, then I stopped! Very happy. I noticed that one adjustment drags the other a bit.
It's also a good idea to check the regulation in at least the 6 up and 9 up positions as those are common positions when wearing the watch. Just dual up may result in it not being as accurate when worn.
Good stuff. I like to use peg wood when getting that close to the hairspring. Thanks again
It is fantastic what performance the Chinese mechanisms achieved. You could see a "taxi" line on the screen only at Rolex... Absolutely fabulous leap for the Chinese watchmaker.
I think this is a Seiko NH35 movement.
@@karanjain5663 Yes, I looked carefully and it is an NH35A. Thanks for the clarification.
@@oldlifestylebyandrei my pleasure - and you're absolutely right... for the price, it's an amazing movement. :)
@@oldlifestylebyandrei It doesn't say "Japan" or "Malaysia"(the only places Seiko admits to making this movement). That means it's Chinese.
Did you adjust it for one position only? I have found that when I get 0 beat error, 0 sec/day at dial down position, on 12 o'clock down the rate goes -20 sec/day.
It will run around -10 to -15 in average because it runs on the right/left angle with -15.
The up and down position is not relevant.
When I know the gain/loss in each position, I use this to adjust the time. If the watch is ahead slightly, I leave it off for a while, or when asleep, in a position that the watch loses seconds, and vice versa. It naturally corrects itself without having to unscrew the crown and make adjustments. I don't know if this is better for the watch or not, but it's an easy way to bring the watch back on track.
I may have slightly touched the hairspring but everything seems to still work fine...should be OK right?! Thanks!
I’ve done that before and as long it didn’t get tangled you should be fine. I recommend using a tiny spring bar tool to adjust the knobs as they can grab on to them and reduce the chance of slipping down into the hairspring
Use a toothpick for calibration.... softer no scratches 😊. Very well explained... I wish my all my watches had that amplitude ❤.
My seiko sarb035 is running about a min fast . The beat error is 4 which is terrible. I do wear the watch doing things I should not . Like biking . I quess I will need to take it in for a service.
Try it yourself! It’s easy!
If you have a watch that is rated -20 to +40 secs a day, should you try to set it to 0? Will this damage the movement?
How often would you have to do this?
Not very often, likely around the same amount of time as to when you’d need an actual full service
My Seiko divers 6309 have a beat error of 4.0 +120sec per day , how to reduce it, turn the the stud clockwise or counterclockwise ?
I'm using a phone app timegrapher
I’m not super familiar with what the inside of that movement looks like but if there is a plus or minus written on the case for regulation try pushing the beat error hand very slightly towards that part of the case
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel ok thanks
Great video. Thanks!
Do I really need to adjust a watch with 1ms beat error with 5sec per day ?
Never need to, but could always make it run more efficiently after not being serviced for periods of time
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel is a 4.0 beat error on a Seiko 6309 7040 normal ?
Sooo satisfying
Thanks for the video. I’m going to eventually tackle this myself on my seiko 4R36. Its brand new and currently running at +5 minutes (minutes, not seconds) per day. I’ve called a few jewelers and they seem a bit clueless or won’t work on seiko so i’m doing my research to do it myself.
It’s magnetized
@@ulmen24 i’m thinking the same thing. It did ship from Singapore so who knows what it was exposed too. Will be trying that first.
@@thisoldbelair 5min is never a regulation issue. It’s either magnetized or needs service. Being that it’s brand new, it likely is magnetized.
@@ulmen24 i appreciate it. I have a demagnetizer in the mail. I’ll let you know how it goes
@@thisoldbelair how did It go
My Seiko presage with its 4r39 mov, daily rate is -8s, amlplitue 266, but beat error is 3.8ms, too high. Does my watch have to be serviced? Thanks
Doesn’t HAVE to be but couldn’t hurt
Perciò quell’orologio così regolato non perderà nessun secondo al giorno?? O comunque prenderà o perderà 1/2 secondi al giorno??
BOUGHT MINE BUT THE DISPLAY ONLY LASTED A FEW WEEKS , ITS VERY FAINT NOW AND HARDLY USEABLE ,
Mine is still perfect, trying reaching out to whoever you bought it from
I’m having a stroke just watching this
You're adjusting the rate at the wrong spot. You're moving the regulator arm itself. It should be done by the pointer over by the scale. Better control there than by adjusting the regulator arm directly and you don't have to worry about slipping and stabbing the hairspring.
Wich Explorer rip off is this?
Made (assembled) this one myself
Hello. I have Omega Speedmaster, very old watch, automatic, and I have this part for regulating, but there is no + and - . It doesn say where is + and where s -. Can this part be adjustet at all? Does every automatic have this part for adjusting it? Now, the watch is in hurry 6 minutes every day.
Hi there, as a general rule pushing it clockwise slows It down and pushing it anticlockwise speeds it up, hope this helps
If it is 6 min fast a day it might just be magnetized. Try demagnetizing it first before you go to the trouble of opening things up and playing with it.