Great video. I drove an s14 with just these mods learning to drift. Was a perfect amount to help with not spinning and getting frustrated but also not a super fancy lock kit that made me rely on lock to save me. 10/10 on how to do everything step by step too ✌
So the rack spacers themselves won’t work with stock tie rods? The way you explained it was a little confusing saying it’s the first step and to apply thread locker after but then you said they weren’t long enough?
yea, seems like if you want to just run spacer for just few angles gain, BUT if you want more angle, than you need to replace it with an extended one (in this case Tein inner tie rods). Thats what I understand from the video.
Good idea on the spacers. However, when removing and insalling the inner tie-rod, we have to use a counter wrench on the steering rack to prevent possible damage.
Nice!! This was actually part 1 of the steering upgrade for the s14. Already have a set of Naoki Nakamura B-Knuckles from Heat Maker (Julian Jacobs) and will be using them with some Maxima Inners (2003 era) and the Tein outers from this video. Gotta figure out what to do about the bump stop on the LCA. But with stock KA it won't matter until I get some more power. Thanks for the comment as always. How do you like the silvermine knuckles?
im in the last steps of a 8 plus month full overhual on my chassis currently, but at first look the quality is there and they say 55 to 60 area depending on set up. So we shall see !!!
How do i adjust my tie rods? After installing my isr inner outter tie rods my steering wheel and wheel/tire bacame off. Hope you can guide me to correct what i did wrong! Thanks
THE SHAKE AND BAKE thanks! Going to be getting a re-fresh exterior wise soon. Wait till you see more of Hobo's s14 in future episodes. His is reeeeeeeal nice
I jumpped straight to cutting lenght off the tierod connection (4,5cm off) and welding it back, so i only have that, uniball tierod ends, billet offset pieces and it gave me a 48 degree angle... just thinking that i might have a problem without any stoppers on the lower arm. Have you modded the lower arms any longer or just made a stopper to not make it wobbly?? Good video by the way, keep it comming 8)
Good question, rack spacers are also popular on Z Chassis as well. However I haven't done any other platforms than S Chassis. So it would be hard for me to know. Maybe I should get a Z33 350z!?
It applies to most other popular drift cars such as Skylines and JZX's. The thing you have to keep in mind is that lock spacers are not generally good for the steering rack. As such if you put too big a spacer in you can have issues with destroying your steering rack, particularly if you don't run lock stops. Best to do some research on what size spacer people consider safe before installing them on a different chassis.
I feel like most cars this will work - I've never worked on z32, but it does work on the Z33. someone else commented this below and it applies here "Best to do some research on what size spacer people consider safe before installing them on a different chassis." a couple quick searches should give you the answer! Thanks for the comment and good luck with the angle hunt.
so... those spacers shouldnt do jack on stock suspension cause the bump stop is what prevents steering travel, once the bump stops are removed, then the spacers will add some lock, I've seen 1220* steering wheel turn, but at the cost of overcentering beyond the stock 1080* of steering. With adjustable lower control arms and extended about 30mm longer than stock you will find you hit your overcentering point at the no rack spacer 1080* of lock but instead of the factory 38* of inside wheel cut, you will now have 45*, with eccentric rack bushings you can get that out to about 50*, But due to the HUGE ackerman of the factory knuckles the outside tire before bushing is still 30* and after bushing is about 33* .... And still the inner tie rod spacer remains unused due to bump stops to prevent overcentering and the steering still turns 1080* lock to lock in accordance with that... If you want more lock you will need offset rack spacers or to modify your crossmember to move the rack even farther forward. Cut/custom knuckles with no bump stops can then be used and you can NOW take advantage of the inner tie rod spacer and I've seen 75* of lock with parallel steering, meaning the outside tire is at 75* also, on some heavily modified cars.
Hopefully it was to get another one! The nice part of watching the videos is it doesn't cost nearly as much as owning one and all the swearing at stripped hardware is edited out. Hope you can get into an S Chassis again soon. Appreciate your comment and support.
Keep Drifting Fun for school :( but after i shall get another no matterr how much drift tax aha. All the swearing and stripped bolt would be awesome too see like in outtakes justt sayn;)
Pretty Helpful video, but the prices are too much for us Poor boiz. Rack spacers can be had at Ace Hardware ($0.50, Z32 outer tie rods, with Maxima inners ($30 on rock auto). Shortened Knuckle, take to a local welder shop, tell them remove an inch. ($50 or so depending on who you get). Last thing is Extended LCA’s, which I did myself for $10. Shop possibly like $100. That’s a whole 50-60 degree angle kit under $200.
the one thats in the car (i dont think it would be factory welded :P) since you said you pretty much daily it i thinking about welding mine but i dont have events very often so i would drift it like once a month if not less and hoon it streeto occasionally
This is so awesome, Will. Very informative and well put together!
Auto Factory REALIZE thanks! Seeing you guys make weekly content has been inspiring for me to keep doing the same.
Let's do it big this year!
Great video. I drove an s14 with just these mods learning to drift. Was a perfect amount to help with not spinning and getting frustrated but also not a super fancy lock kit that made me rely on lock to save me. 10/10 on how to do everything step by step too ✌
You can cut and weld the lower control arm and cut the knuckle shorten it by about 1inch and get more did it in my nissan a31 cefiro and plenty lock
It's a good sign when your video has no thumbs down after two plus weeks... kudos!
So the rack spacers themselves won’t work with stock tie rods? The way you explained it was a little confusing saying it’s the first step and to apply thread locker after but then you said they weren’t long enough?
yea, seems like if you want to just run spacer for just few angles gain, BUT if you want more angle, than you need to replace it with an extended one (in this case Tein inner tie rods). Thats what I understand from the video.
don't be shy hitting the knuckle to remove the tie rod end, you need to hit it around 100000x times harder
Good idea on the spacers. However, when removing and insalling the inner tie-rod, we have to use a counter wrench on the steering rack to prevent possible damage.
Awesome !, i run silvermine cut knuckles with 98 s14 inners and 89 maxima outters on my s13 with a extended lca
Nice!! This was actually part 1 of the steering upgrade for the s14. Already have a set of Naoki Nakamura B-Knuckles from Heat Maker (Julian Jacobs) and will be using them with some Maxima Inners (2003 era) and the Tein outers from this video. Gotta figure out what to do about the bump stop on the LCA. But with stock KA it won't matter until I get some more power. Thanks for the comment as always. How do you like the silvermine knuckles?
im in the last steps of a 8 plus month full overhual on my chassis currently, but at first look the quality is there and they say 55 to 60 area depending on set up. So we shall see !!!
More angle for cheap..can’t complain with that! Love the videos man, keep it up
i love this style of video! :)
I plan on making more in this style. Thanks for watching!
That was very informative. Thanks for doing this.
SDSBBQ nice talking with you in the maximum drift cast chat
Keep Drifting Fun Yes indeed. Hooray for random YT notifications!
You make nice and useful videos! Keep up good work
Thanks for the really nice comment. Appreciate it and thank you for watching!
maaaaasurement
Your car is going to come out sick, awesome job 👍🏽
Hey Will really enjoying this new content you've been posting. How about a video of garage wheel alignment after these mods?
Cameron Bonham that's a great idea. Would need to learn how to do it first, however I've looked into what you need to do it at home.
How do i adjust my tie rods? After installing my isr inner outter tie rods my steering wheel and wheel/tire bacame off. Hope you can guide me to correct what i did wrong! Thanks
Love your s14!
THE SHAKE AND BAKE thanks! Going to be getting a re-fresh exterior wise soon. Wait till you see more of Hobo's s14 in future episodes. His is reeeeeeeal nice
I got longer inner rods, no their too long and can't be adjusted to make proper alignment, should I cut them down ?
If you install these spacers to the stock tie rods will it give more angle or do you need adjustable tie rods also for it to give more angle?
Same question for R33 if anyone knows
What would be the best options for my s13?
I jumpped straight to cutting lenght off the tierod connection (4,5cm off) and welding it back, so i only have that, uniball tierod ends, billet offset pieces and it gave me a 48 degree angle... just thinking that i might have a problem without any stoppers on the lower arm. Have you modded the lower arms any longer or just made a stopper to not make it wobbly?? Good video by the way, keep it comming 8)
1:03 damn that was barely any threads going in
Thank you for the informative video mate.
Good video..nice work!
does spacers give more angle.? is it good for drift purposes?
Yes
Do s13's have the knuckle bump stop?
Hey, What inner tie rod/rack end did you use? I have heard that maxima tie rods are popular.
latsbrahh maxima are great for length if you do modified knuckles or go with extended outer tie rod ends!
@@KeepDriftingFun what year maxima for the inners?😬 looks like they have more thread
Heard using rack spacers blows the rack... Not sure if it's true.
what rack spacers did you use? (i mean what size)
patrykkowalski6 I believe they're 5mm spacers
i have a question, can more steering angle also help in cornering too?
Lime I don't see why not. If you have quick enough hands it may prevent you from spinning out. It also is nice for u turns and tight parking spaces
Could I apply these steps to a NB miata?
yes
Works for fwd and awd?
Does this only apply to S chassis?
Good question, rack spacers are also popular on Z Chassis as well. However I haven't done any other platforms than S Chassis. So it would be hard for me to know. Maybe I should get a Z33 350z!?
Daemyon Du Brey well the concepts applys to every car,
It applies to most other popular drift cars such as Skylines and JZX's. The thing you have to keep in mind is that lock spacers are not generally good for the steering rack. As such if you put too big a spacer in you can have issues with destroying your steering rack, particularly if you don't run lock stops. Best to do some research on what size spacer people consider safe before installing them on a different chassis.
Probably a dumb question but will these same methods work for a 300zx? I've been trying to find ways to get more angle out of mine.
I feel like most cars this will work - I've never worked on z32, but it does work on the Z33. someone else commented this below and it applies here "Best to do some research on what size spacer people consider safe before installing them on a different chassis." a couple quick searches should give you the answer! Thanks for the comment and good luck with the angle hunt.
Awesome thanks!
Great video
Am I blind or is the tie rod pickup point on the knuckle already cut and modified??????????
Good eye, that's for a future video. :)
so... those spacers shouldnt do jack on stock suspension cause the bump stop is what prevents steering travel, once the bump stops are removed, then the spacers will add some lock, I've seen 1220* steering wheel turn, but at the cost of overcentering beyond the stock 1080* of steering. With adjustable lower control arms and extended about 30mm longer than stock you will find you hit your overcentering point at the no rack spacer 1080* of lock but instead of the factory 38* of inside wheel cut, you will now have 45*, with eccentric rack bushings you can get that out to about 50*, But due to the HUGE ackerman of the factory knuckles the outside tire before bushing is still 30* and after bushing is about 33* .... And still the inner tie rod spacer remains unused due to bump stops to prevent overcentering and the steering still turns 1080* lock to lock in accordance with that... If you want more lock you will need offset rack spacers or to modify your crossmember to move the rack even farther forward. Cut/custom knuckles with no bump stops can then be used and you can NOW take advantage of the inner tie rod spacer and I've seen 75* of lock with parallel steering, meaning the outside tire is at 75* also, on some heavily modified cars.
This applies for c34 laurel aswell.
do a vid of how to install a temp gauge
so you are technically making the tie rod longer with the spacer, cant this be achieved also by extending the outer tierod?
No, the inner tie rod is what stops steering rack travel
@@griplimit Guess I'm just dumb. Because it should be the same concept. :Shrug
Urg i just had to sell my s13. Seeing all ur s chassis vids makes me regret ahaha
Hopefully it was to get another one! The nice part of watching the videos is it doesn't cost nearly as much as owning one and all the swearing at stripped hardware is edited out. Hope you can get into an S Chassis again soon. Appreciate your comment and support.
Keep Drifting Fun for school :( but after i shall get another no matterr how much drift tax aha. All the swearing and stripped bolt would be awesome too see like in outtakes justt sayn;)
Pretty Helpful video, but the prices are too much for us Poor boiz.
Rack spacers can be had at Ace Hardware ($0.50,
Z32 outer tie rods, with Maxima inners ($30 on rock auto). Shortened Knuckle, take to a local welder shop, tell them remove an inch. ($50 or so depending on who you get).
Last thing is Extended LCA’s, which I did myself for $10. Shop possibly like $100.
That’s a whole 50-60 degree angle kit under $200.
does anyone know what diff does the s14 have? i mean is it welder or somekind of lsd?
Do you mean the factory differential? or the one in my car?
the one thats in the car (i dont think it would be factory welded :P) since you said you pretty much daily it i thinking about welding mine but i dont have events very often so i would drift it like once a month if not less and hoon it streeto occasionally
Mine has a Tomei 2 way LSD.
Gktech
Love the color of your 911 👀.
Thanks! Beige on beige interior.
Wonderful spec, indeed.