BMW M2 CS 7.42,99 min | Nordschleife HOT LAP Supertest | sport auto
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Car: BMW M2 CS; Driver: sport auto's Test Driver Christian Gebhardt;
Track: Nordschleife; Laptime: 7.42,99 min; Tyre: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Supertest in sport auto 09/2020.
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that 8:08 shows this driver has top driving skill to save it back. fully respect on his driving and show us this wonderful lap of a m2 cs!
No, this better! =)))
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To all the disrespectfull haters and keyboard Rambos out there.
There is often only a small 1 to 3 laps windows for Christian to set a lap time. You can't compare laptimes from official test drivers who did some hundreds of laps
I bet those guys can drive there blindfolded lol
Amen
they also have up to 2 laps! for the Porsche GT3RS Kevin had 2 laps! the other factory Driver too, but Kevin was 1 sec faster.. thing is only, they are pro racing factory drivers! and Gebhardt is a noob in racing.. AMG took for the black series GT their factory racing driver Maro Engel, you know why? because Gebhardt would´t move it under 6.55! it´s not hating, but in my opinion you can´t compare factory drivers to gebhardt times, and thats what people too, this thing, yes i´m hating! poeple think the GT3RS is so much faster than a GTR Pro, cause the was driven by a Pro and the other by Gebhardt, if Maro Engel had 2 laps in the GTR Pro, i think it could be same or faster than the GT3RS.
@@robertkrlin34 The factory drivers are probably involved in testing though and know the car very well before they even get to the ring, thats a huge difference. Also you never know whether these record cars are actually stock or not, getting a ring record is great marketing material so i would imagine some manufacturers get creative. Quite a few of these records are suspect to say the least.
Mate, even with fu.... up tyres and traffic we manage to score a 7.49 on the exact same car 1month ago. And video is on youtube... ua-cam.com/video/rwcBLxOJF8M/v-deo.html
Good drive yes. Not amazing for a supposively supported driver i’d say.
Dude almost slaps the fence at 160kmh at 8:08 and continue like its nothing,glad you saved it,the video is a joy to watch.
I don't understand how people can compare M2 with Cayman GT4. Not in the same category, whatsoever. Yes, the CS is overpriced, and the Competition is a much better value. Yes, I love Porsche (ALOT), but the M2 is also one of my favorite cars. M2 originated from entry level, economy BMW platform, while Cayman is one of the most sports oriented performance cars. What the M2 is capable of is incredible.
It's pretty wild that a Civic is within a second of the M2.
@@jinxtacy a factory preped type r with cage and no rear seats running cup 2 tires! That m2cs as you can see is stock form and he messed up a critical part of the ring that everyone knows makes up a lot of time, everyone who knows the ring knows you get that part right you better a faster speed down that very long straight, he prob cost himself 2 or more seconds easy, go drive grand Turismo for reference!!
@@dafrasier1 Just scrolling through some comments... Wait! Sunset Orange M2C and >200 laps? I think I remember, I guess we had some short conversations at the Nordschleife entrance car park last year. You had the export license plates and did all the laps in a few weeks, but without even having a season ticket, right? If so, then greetings from the guy with the Long Beach Blue M2C :)
@@intelligentcarreviews8592 So it's on the same street tire that the GT3RS and the M2 CS have on? They added in a bolt in (floating) cage for safety (not structural support) and removed the infotainment and seats to compensate for the weight. Lamborghini added a cage to the Huracan Performante and Aventador SVJ with the former being on "street tires" specifically developed for their attempt. I'd agree that Cup 2s are silly to be classified as street tires, but the Ring has all kinds of moving goal posts.
That's all beside the point. Even with the mistake I think it's remarkable that a $33k fwd car is well within 10 seconds of that M2 after almost 13 miles. I'll be getting my hands on an M2 CS Racing later on and look forward to see what kind of improvement they offer over the M240i cars.
@@jinxtacy floating cage haha you believe that? And the true time is 8:01 for the type r that m2 has no cage or removed parts! Mistake and all still got a 7:42 it could easily go high 7:30's
Und immer wieder bin ich über die Rundenzeit der Corvette C6Z06 begeistert. 2006, mit einem Saugmotor, handgeschaltet, ohne Semislicks eine 7.49er Zeit zu fahren war definitiv mehr wert als heute eine 7.42.
War eine schlechte zeit die C6-Z06 hat 512 PS und wiegt nur 1450 Kilo.
@@mustafa-kemal3499 und jetzt schafft es ein kleiner Hatchback für unter 40.000€
@@niklastp09 Welches Fahrzeug meinst du unter 40.000 Euro.
@@mustafa-kemal3499 Civic Type R
@@niklastp09 Blöd nur dass der Civic Type R modifiziert war und daher nicht zählt
Our lesson of today by Christian Gebhardt, at 8:05. When the rear moves around at high speeds of a powerful rwd, use the right corrective steering inputs and keep you foot flat and accelerate to balance out the car. I see so many drivers lift in these situation and loose complete control of a rwd car.
Quite a bit of understeer there....
The rear didn't move, it just didn't turn in. Make no mistake he eased off there, not fully, but that is not flat on the grass
Crap advice. I'm assuming he lifted off the throttle a little there. If he instead planted the throttle the rear end would likely continue to grip, and he'd have more understeer sending him into the barrier.
Cheslyn Owens It is obviously understeer mate... If I were you i wont count my knowledge of driving. Correct thing to do in that situation lift of(not aggresively) and let hope front wheel hook up again.
That’s just understeer. Lifting off a bit will help the front end to grip better. The mistake would be to brake. He definitely eased off the throttle as shown on the Speedometer.
Just 10 seconds faster than an m2c, but this has cup 2 tyres which easily accounts for a large part of that. Pls run the m2c with cup 2 tyres and see what time it gets. May make people rethink what the cs really offers.
Or run the regular M2 with square 265 cup2 tires
like 7 or 8 seconds would be down to Cup 2
@MunroM84 exactly, its a great advert for the m2c.
I think the CS is more a really good collector car like a special edition. An M2C with a good tuning + setup by Lightweight or AC Schnitzer (Tuning brands) will be faster and cheaper, but more difficult to sell later.
the target weight for m2 cs should be below 1500 kg. heavy fat cars seems to be the trend today.
Security and comfort my friend, Security and comfort
@@arianuruqi6342 yeah, thats the thing. but people dont seems to understand that, and you cant make all the cars from carbon etc
Yeah right it really needs that Carbon Monocoque…
No seriously the more carbon fibre parts you use on this car, the more expensive it's gonna be, especially because it is limited to 2200pcs even for BMW that would be too expensive + it simply is no racecar. If you want more, go for the M2 CS Racing
With a curb weight of about 1600kg including driver (and manual transmission) there is not much to complain about I guess…
@@TopiAS06 you can make cars below 1500 kg without carbon tho. by BMW standard that's no excuse. safety is a shit opinion because heavier car does not guarantee crash survival. safety is in the hands of the driver.
@@alexandrepf8471 you know that saying carbon was over shot, right?. yes you can make them under 1500kg. safety is not shitty opinion in this case. these cars has to be build for stantards and for everyone. is new cars too heavy and in huge sizes?, yes they are. but i get why
Bei Gran Turismo bekommt man aber kein Gold für die Aktion bei 8:08
Stramm mal wieder, Christian, sehr sehr stramm! 👍👏💪
Nun ja, zweifellos eine gute Zeit.
Allerdings, der legendäre M3 CSL fuhr vor 17 Jahren 7:50...!
Die Nordschleife ist ja nach einigen Anpassungen schneller geworden, da frage ich mich was hat die Weiterentwicklung in Sachen Fahrzeugtechnik und Reifen gebracht.?
Der M3 CSL war auch ein kompromissloses Renngerät und fuhr damals auf Porsche Gt3/RS Niveau. So etwas wird es leider nie mehr von BMW geben.
Der fährt auch realistische 7:35! Der Fahrer ist halt nicht der Hit... siehe 8:06 min 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ wenn der alle bmw Rekorde gefahren hat dann mein Beileid 🤦♂️
8:08 the struggle is real. Close call
Oh oh ... 08:06 ... knapp am Schrotten vorbei?!
Great lap! A bit more understeer than I was expecting but still very quick.
you want understeer lols.. go watch and listen to the new Audi RS3 ring "record' with their stipped out car... roll cage, recaro pole positions,,, rear seat delete lols... listen to the tires absolutely squeal... THATS terminal understeer
8:08 that looks scary..
Butt pucker moment! He might have had to change his underwear after that lap! lol Wow, 10 whole seconds faster than the M2 Comp.
Fucking understeer. Evey petrolhead hates understeer.
Sehr starkes untersteuern an der Vorderachse,da ist noch einiges mehr din,vielleicht mit einem vernünftigen KW Competition Fahrwerk?🤔
Starke Leistung, wie üblich Herr Gebhardt!
Würde mir wünschen das die Online-Redaktion aber sämtliche Fahrzeugeinstellungen mit in die Videobeschreibung packen.
Nehme an hier wurde mit allem auf 'volle Attacke' samt 'MDM' für's ESP gefahren, richtig!?
Grüße eines Ex-patriaten aus Schweden in die Eifel!
It’s faster than most people can ever drive it. He definitely lost time towards the end on the grass.
I would love to see a breakdown in the lap to see where it is actually loosing time. I saw quite a good amount of understeer.
Regardless of the negative comments I love the car.
War der M3 CSL E46 der die ganze Zeit in den Kommentaren erwähnt wird eine Sport-Auto oder Werkszeit?
We need a Nürburgring lap time for new 2020 Nissan GT-R NISMO please........
Please test the M2 Comp. with Sport Cup 2 Tyres ...that will make lot of difference
Under , under ....what is with the tires?
I hope the S55 engine will be put in an A90 Supra some day. I think the Supra/Z4 is a more capable platform for the track than the 2 series of this generation. Would be interesting to see the lap times.
I actually think you’ll get one step better…the S58 in a supra special edition, that would be amazing
a lot of that understeer was later in the lap i think the tyres were well past optimum and overheated by then that lap is relentless they dont get a chance to cool. i wouldn't be surprised to see the pilot sports tyres were better past 5 mins of the lap there than the sports cup 2s
The driver is fantastic as always. What a save at the end! But anyone would be nervous being chased by an invisible police car (after 6:06min) at high speeds! Ahah. Although the M2 CS is a nice little sport coupe, it’s too expensive. I would stick with the competition and make my own upgrades.
Might be wrong but...isn't the latest Megane Rs faster, with only 300hp y fwd??
8:08 how can the BMW get understeer like that?
False of the driver.I dont know why all believe is excellent driver many mistakes on the lap
What is it about the alarm sounding twice by the end of the lap?
Great driving by the way 😉👍
Traffic accident assist.
Car detected one & called the BMW Service Center
@@gt-r9035 No, it's the dedicated radio system for the industrial pool drivers. It warns of a hazard or informs about track details. They always have to play it twice as to make sure that everybody on track is informed.
What a driver! Just look at @8:05 how he controls the car.
Hammer Zeit, gut gefahren. Aber 30k teurer wie ein M2C? Da lass ich doch lieber die 410 ps drosselung aufheben und besorg die cup 2 Reifen das kostet max. 2k und mein M2C kann das selbe😏
Is it confortable to drive with your arms bent that much?
Assistindo aqui do Brasil, sempre. Testem por favor o AMG E63s nesta pista... Ninguém o testou ai... Parabéns pelo canal.
That hanging cable gives the greatest idea of what is going on here!
looks nice, fun to drive I think. appr. same Laptimes like in the racing simulation rFactor2 with the BMW M2 CS, really nice
>when a french FWD 280hp hot hatch gets an almost 3-second faster Nurburgring lap time than a purpose-built german RWD performance car
300 hp, not 280. And yeah, it's a bit weird, amazing what modern fwd hot hatches can do.
Factory lap 🤦♂
Geile Runde, voller Einsatz von Christian 👍🚘👍wieviel Power hatte der Wagen auf dem Prüfstand?
Der hatte gemessene 491 PS.
@@mustafa-kemal3499 super. Danke für die Info 👍also 130 PS mehr als ein e 46 csl, aber #nur 7 Sekunden schneller. KRASS
Nice video! Nice car! No complaints here!
Please tell me Iam scerch in Google map nurburgring track but map not look like a nurburgring logo .
Hört sich wieder wie 'ne Blechdose an... Warum bekommt BMW keinen gescheiten Sound aussen hin?🤔
Egal, die Zeit ist gut!👍
OPF, EU Auflagen.....
Porsche 911 GT3 RS bmws sind noch okay, hör dir mal die amgs mit opf an...
Der klingt völlig in Ordnung zudem hat man eben im Innenraum auch den sound durch die Lautsprecher. Ob man das braucht sei dahingestellt aber so klingt ein Biturbo R6 nunmal. Zudem merkt man dem Auto kaum an dass er einen OPF eingebaut hat und der typische OPF sound ändert sich in den meisten fällen nach 10-15t km ebenfalls.
@@mrmorrisniceguy987 Nee, BMW Sechszylinder-Turbomotoren hören sich bei BMW selbst blechern an.
Im (alten und )neuen Supra klingt der Motor komischerweise besser! Und wie es richtig geht, zeigte Nissan schon vor 30 Jahren mit dem RB26 im Skyline GT-R... Die bekommen geilen Sound hin, warum BMW nicht...?
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ja weil ein Singleturbo immer besser klingt wie ein Biturbo ganz einfach. Das klangbild kann garnicht das selbe sein wie bei einem Einzelnen Turbo wie RB26 2JZ GTE etc. … da die abgase ja anders durchströmen.
Name of the intro track?
I mean it's okay for a road car to understeer, but come on... Front tyres gave up before the end of the lap!
Mostly done by tyres and driver
This m2 cs is only 1 second faster than fk8? 😏
nice exit at turn 30
M2 Competition is approx. 3 seconds faster than A45 AMG on Hockenheim Ring. A45 is nice car, but is no match for M2.
Renault Megane RS Trophy is faster than the M2 competition.
You are so inspiring!
Reason for some of the understeer could be due to the sheer weight of that Nokia Phone
this time of old GT4, new one (direct competition?) is 12sec faster
And the old one did it on a worse surface and old psc2.
and it is a manual, no pdk
@@florianh.6981 and less power, no turbo :)
It's 16, not 12 seconds faster.
So it's quicker than A45S on Trofeo R (although its gearbox glitched for a bit) and TTRS by 6 seconds, quicker than M2 Comp and Supra by 10 seconds and both of those are on Supersports... as quick as 981 GT4 too, just need to see how 982 performs in this sort of test
Oh and I did something like that 8:07 on Nordschleife before, scared the shit out of my instructor but car was totally fine... if the off didn't happen then it'd have been quicker for sure but an open lap at the ring is hard to come by
25 years old bmw e36 m3 (*club sport spec) with original s50b32 engine post similar laptimes.
@@r129r16pfl Not same driver is it and is that a BTG time or full lap? Also the clubsport build car have Nordschleife specific alignment + setup and this M2 CS don't
@@CarToneHK BTG time 7:17min (*with traffic)+ 20sec (for the main straight) = ~7:37min
982 / 718 GT4 was 7:32 at Sport Auto Test and 7:28 Porsche internal
and 718 GT4 is a manual
Weird that it is gonna be slower than the new Limited Edition Type-R which is FWD & costs a fuck load less
fwd exellence
Not a knock on the m2 .... but more off how great the type r is...
Norma, MDM O OFF? Please!! 🙏
Schneller als meine Ex Frau beim Scheidungsanwalt war!
Gut gefahren jungs 😅. Es geht nicht um den Preis, sondern um Exklusivität. Dieses Auto ist für die Leute die wissen es das zu Schätzen. 90% von den, werden keine Rennstrecke sehen. Wenn ich hier nur Kommentare lese, da wird mir schlecht. Viele können sich das Auto nicht leisten, was auch nicht schlimm ist, aber sich aufregen weil es so „langsam“ ist? Ein Renault Megane Trophy R ist 2 Sekunden schneller. Ja und? Ich gönne es jedem der sich das Auto leisten kann.
Obwohl ich mir das Auto leisten könnte, kaufe ich mir dann doch eher einen Porsche. Wobei ich BMW gar nicht schlecht machen möchte. Ich hatte mal einen 528 er, mit diesem fuhr ich vor 15 Jahren meinen Benchmark Berg schneller hoch, als mit einem Leih- 428 Cabrio vor 3 Jahren. Vor 15 Jahren hatte ich 193 ehrliche PS, vor 3 Jahren wahrscheinlich nicht die angesagten 245 Ps. Ich bin aber auch kein langsamerer Autofahrer geworden. Und Turbomotoren sind mit Saugmotoren nicht vergleichbar, aber ich war trotzdem irgendwie irritiert.
Michael Zehnder spricht nichts dagegen. Jeder muss selber wissen was er haben möchte. Bin kein BMW Fan oder Porsche aber ich wurde mir lieber einen BMW holen. Alles Geschmacksache. Nur ich mag es nicht wenn die anderen versuchen eine bestimmte Marke zu bashen. Objektiv sein ohne zu beleidigen. Du magst Porsche ich nicht. Wo ist das Problem? Ich gönne es dir trotzdem wenn du GT4 holst.
Gruß
@@grandegrande4319 Da gebe ich Dir zweifellos Recht. Mir geht es definitiv nur darum, eventuell eigene Erfahrungen weiterzugeben. Auch wenn diese durchaus subjektiv sein können, so dass ein heruntergerockter Leihwagen nicht mit einem Top gepflegten Auto mithalten kann, was auch zu berücksichtigen ist. Aber fakt ist, die meisten, welche es nötig haben, sich wichtig zu machen, denn was anderes ist das Bashing nicht, haben noch nie in einem Auto des Bashing Zieles gesessen. Es gibt mehr Mitglieder in Porsche Foren wie es gebaute Porsche gibt. Ich amüsiere mich immer über die kompetenten Kommentare über den 718 er (wg. 4 Zylinder) Die meisten Kommentare zeigen mir, dass die nie einen gefahren sind.
Michael Zehnder richtig. Hauptsache auf dicke Eier machen obwohl sie nie einen gefahren sind. Ich wurde trotzdem nie zu eine Porsche Probefahrt sagen😀. Man muss aber sagen das die tolle Autos Bauen. Alles anders ist Geschmack Sache
8:07 understeer sh|tcar...
to high mechanical grip to the rear wheels, nothing to do with understeer..,
your mamas car is for sure better with power oversteer
They mixed up the setup with 2er activ tourer
This is splendid and fabulous =)
Test an sich und die gefahrene Zeit ist mit 9% Mehrleistung des Motors auf dem Prüfstand wie nominell vom Hersteller angegeben für mich von keiner wirklichen Relevanz mehr. Mit Nominalleistung steht dort eine ganz andere aber ehrliche Zeit.
Excelente!!!!!
0:00:81 faster than a civic type r ... honda never fails to amaze me. Dont get me wrong this m2 ish a great car...and it wasnt driven by an expert who drives the nürburgring for the 10000th time but i dont think an expert would be muuuch faster than this sooo...great car but still for that price performance wise the honda is just...incredible
8:01 according to the magazine. The 7:43 time was done using a modified car.
pm ayo modified? Yes but not the 7:43 time tho. Only using a roll cage for safety purpose. But not stripped down to the bones. The limited edition was even faster and after that they stripped it down and they were again faster. It was also a fight against renault. It also depends on tires and everything. Like lets accept that honda is just good at it. Better than anyone else in that price range and quality and reliability. Because thats facts :)
@@jimmyribeiro7785 - yes, not denying that the 7:43 is legit.
What I'm (and some others are) saying is that we have to be more apples-to-apples while comparing cars (i.e. comparing two cars which are available as-is at the market). Plus, there might be some unknown variables in terms of what the manufacturer cars have at the time of their runs, such as the rollcage that the manufacturer Type R utilized. That would pretty much make it more of an orange, not exactly a fair comparison.
pm ayo you‘re completely right. Thats why i cant fathom the people who discuss like „oh the gti was only 2 seconds slower than i dont know a bmw with twice the cost and 150 horses more“ lets compare apples to apples. Then you can see which one is „better“ performance wise. But mostly people dont use their cars on the track or sth. Normal road cars...
8:08 Only Audi understeers...they said
BMW doesn’t...they said
His body position looks a little too close to steering wheel, looks uncomfortable. Still great driving!
No, everyone stays way too far from steering wheel.
With both shoulders leaning at seat you should be able to lay the wrist on top of the steering wheel.
@@gt-r9035 I agree but your arms should not be squated like that, they should have just a slight angle. If you ever set up a seat on your bicycle you know what position your leg is supposed to be. Not fully extended but also not cramped.
@@TheRedcroatian
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It's the sedan record lap of the Panamera. The Porsche testdriver is sitting similar.
Maybe Christian Gebhardt is sitting a bit closer.
& everyone has his own habits, but he drives so many fast cars around nordschleife & core of the supertest is showing the tracktime without much expierience on the testcar on Nordschleife & he is often really close to the testdrivers, that know their car in & out.
Toll gefahren und gute Zeit!
7:42 ist echt eine krasse Zeit. Damit ist er gleichauf mit einem Murcielago SV und einem Porsche Taycan. Und nur 4 Sekunden hinter dem Basis-M5.
Ja und nen Hauch schneller als der Honda Civic TypeR #FK8 #TypeR Es wird Zeit für den Facelift run bzw den Limited Edition TypeR :-D
@@Earl_VTEC Die Rundenzeit vom Civic ist in etwa genauso unglaubwürdig wie die vom ersten Nissan GT-R... schlechtes Beispiel.
Sorry die Zeit war absolut kacke. Der Fahrer hat soviele Stellen das Gas gelupft wo er hätte voll nehmen können und zum Schluss schmeisst er den Wagen fast noch weg. Ich wette, mit nem fähigeren Fahrer und Nordschleifenkenntnis, wären hier 7.35 und mehr drin gewesen. 😉
@@Isdera1985 absolut korrekt!
Isdera1985 nur das der Gebhardt die Schleife in und auswendig kennt.... Hauptsache dumm daher labern. Mach es besser !
In 2020 könnte man sich aber schonmal bessere Kameras und Mikros zulegen
I kept calling you about 20 times on that nokia cellphone. I dont even wanna listen to your excuses!
Was ist der Alarm um 7:25 ?
Unfallassistent hat 2 Unfälle erkannt & die BMW-Zentrale angerufen.
@@gt-r9035 Danke für die Info. ;-)
Was it broken lol
997 has also targa model
WTF 10 Sekunden zu dem M2 Competition. Da ist der deutliche mehrpreis doch deutlich zu messen...
CS fährt auf Cups, der Comp auf PSS
achso, und die Reifen? alleine die machen 6-7 sekunden. die andren ca.3sek kommen von den 40ps mehr das wars, würderst am M2c ne andere software drauf machen bist schon shcneller wei lder shcnell auf 500ps ist..
7:42!?? A 718 GT4 does 7:28 and it’s cheaper
Cue search it yourself, a m2 CS is stupid expensive
nicht mal 1 sec schneller als ein serienmäßiger Civic mit Frontantrieb und viel weniger Leistung? Trotzdem gut gefahren aber spricht jetzt rein zeittechnisch nicht für das Auto obwohl ich selbst absoluter M-Fanboy bin.
Setup mixed up with 2 series active tourer
is it an amazing car? yes! is it good for the price? hell no. but probably my favorite new M car.
Porque lleva un Nokia ahí encima del freno de mano? 🤷🏻♂️
Une bonne megane 4 rs trophy r avec 300ch et une boîte de vitesse mécanique suffit finalement.. 😉
A 45s 7min48 👋🏾
Front wheel drive Renault Megane RS Trophy R is 3 seconds quicker around Nordschleife, than this BMW
@MunroM84 - except that was done by a manufacturer-modified car. sport auto did 8:01 using a stock Type R.
@MunroM84 - forgot to leave this.
www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/7wdxk2/honda_civic_type_r_801_at_nurburgring/
No body wants a FWD car , 981 GT4 and E46 m3 owner here. I rather also my AWD subaru forester as well 😂
@Vinny Booboo - then why is there a rollcage in the car? Not exactly stock to me.
m.ua-cam.com/video/4YSjItQneNM/v-deo.html
Vinny Booboo and company keep buying a civic until you can afford a proper sports car.
Test current M3 comp PLEASE
.....was hat denn da ständig im Schritt gezwickt?👋🏻😁
Fliege im Auto
E46 M3csl still it is the benchmark, 7:50m lap time, despite the 17years progress in every segment, m2 cs only 10secs faster
No it's not faster. Remember that track is quicker nowadays than 20 years ago. New tarmac, better grip etc. CSL with modern tires is faster than current production cars.
@@lukaszczaja7520 o agree with you, i have the same opinion, 20years only 7secs progress...with modern...rubber...tarmac
@@kostasmour5107 the weight bro's ;-P
CSL is still second to none. With modern tires is faster. Ad modern suspension and is in 7:20 section easily.
CSL with factory engine and suspension never ever a 7.2x time. Not even close.
@@peterhammer6915 with factory suspenion no but ad intrax or kw and setup for the ring and that is what this car can achieve.
why understeer everywhere? is this the BMW we all know of?
Understeer happens to every car straight from the factory - including cars like 488 Pista. Manufacturers dare not to see drivers kill themselves :)
why should I buy a M2 cs then? you can have this understeer in a 220i. It is not about oversteering, but about having a neutral vehicle. bmw has obviously been struggling with this problem with the 2 Series for a longer time💁♂️
@@keepracing2781 road cars are designed to understeer as a safety measurement.
@@keepracing2781 designed to do that for street use, you can dial it out easy on your own, but at your own risk!
my front-wheel drive car with hardly any understeer. modifications about 5,000 euros and foolproof to drive💁♂️
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Geile Runde...
Gib weiter Vollgas 💪🏼
Christian, denk mal über einen ärmellosen Overall nach 😉
good
It depends on the "Reifen" +40 PS ...hätter gern mal einen Test des M2C auf den Cup2 .... sicher locker 5 sek schneller
a lot of understeer. the setup was rwd should be better than civic type r or megane rs fwd
Hadn’t he ran out of track at 8:11 , the time would be 7. 21 . Still amazing time though.
Sits closer to the steering wheel than my mum
3 seconds slower than the megane rs for double the price
Junge junge junge, was war da denn los?
People said that this M2 drives so much better than the A45S but little did they know that both of these cars lap the nurburgring with super identical time. delusional M fanboys lol
Civic type R 7:43 mit 130 PS weniger...
Gefahren von einem professionellen Rennfahrer. Er bewegt das Auto 🚘 am Limit. Der Unterschied ist am deutlichsten in den Kurven zu sehen. Christian fährt mehr auf Sicherheit. Ein Rennfahrer holt locker 3 - 4 sec raus + 2 sec für den Fahrfehler.
@@lewis-x7 ja der type R ist in d kurven unschlagbar, auf d gerade ist klar hat er kein chance..
@@lewis-x7 das Schreibe ich auch die ganze Zeit, ich denke es ist etwa 1sek auf die 1Min ist, also eher so 7-8sek was er auf den Profi verliert!
Audi RSQ8 gleiche Zeit...mit audisteer und über 2100kg Gewicht. WELL DONE AUDI👍
Stefan Vogel wenn sport auto nen fähigeren Fahrer hinter das Steuer des M2 CS gesetzt hätte, hätte der verk*ckte RSQ8 einpacken können. 😅🤦♂️
@@Isdera1985 HAHAHAHA die Zeit war gut...zuvor hat das driver's car 🤪 7.52 gebraucht. Ok ich setze dann Röhrl in den Audi. Immer die BMW Fans sind 😁....macht euch doch mal locker!
Isdera1985 Gebhardt das fahrerische Können abzusprechen ist einfach nur dumm. Fahr doch du mal die NS mit dem M2 CS, wirst wenn überhaupt auf eine tiefe 8er Zeit komnen.
@@roespeloes Denke auch, es liegt eher am Auto...😉
Du hast keinen Plan. Beim RS-Q8 wurde kein Leistungstest gemacht.
Also vor allem Respekt, toll war die Fahrt nicht
Dann zeigen Sie uns bitte ihre Fahrt auf der Nordschleife, die toll ist.
Robert Ostermeier
Ich behaupte nicht, das ich es besser kann, sehe aber, das die Runde nicht optimal gefahren wurde
nice car. too bad it is starting to look like a subaru with excess lines... and addons..
Understeer, Understeer, Understeer.. 8:08 bruh
Not a bit understeer, he slides evenly on all fours
Could have saved 2 seconds if he took off his stainless steel watch.... XD
In addition to that, his balls of steel should be taken into account 😉👍🏻
Zl1 cost less and do better time
He messed up a critical part of the ring for fast laptimes...everyone who knows or driven the ring in real life or virtually knows that that part is key to carrying speed down that long straight, he cost himself 2 or more seconds easy! Go drive the ring in person or virtually and see for yourself! Do not mess up that corner of you want fast lap times, most ppl do in grand Turismo etc and it cost them big time!
Da geht noch was
10 seconds slower than the Giulia Quadrifoglio and only 7 seconds faster than the M3 CSL. Nah, too expensive.
Agree with M3 CSL, but not with the Giulia. That time was driven by Alfa themselves with a pro driver and not by an indipendant car magazine. We know nothing about tyres, setup, engine tweaks, etc.
FCA always cheat on laptimes. Their laptimes are jokes and they even edited the viedios to save a few seconds.
Would love to see Christian Gebhardt and Sports Auto to do lap in a Guilia.
why does bmw never perform great on the ring? they manage to beat Mercedes and Audi on several tracks and very often but on the ring the BMW are not very good
AUDI fast on Track ? Lmao.. 🤣
In most tracks the M23458 and X3456M are almost always faster than the AMG Rivals. Only AMG GT series are far more superior at track performance. The RS models are like 3 to 4 seconds slower than both M and AMG. RS models recently years are jokes. They don't even respect themselves and don't respect RS fans.
@Eryk That laptime is a joke. Audi took out the rear seats, add a roll cage and replace the front seats with two bucket seats and we don't know what tires they used. That's not the vehicle delivered to you. You can just wait for the third party test. Why is RS 6/7 so slow with the same engine?
@I CUT That's exactly what I said. Top end AMG supercars are always faster. But the M5 is faster than E63s and the M3/4 is usually faster than C63s and The M2 faster than A45 and the X56M faster than GLE63S. That's a fact. You can check Hockenheim, Sachsenring and Nurburgring.
@I CU stop lying, the bmw beat Mercedes and Audi on track almost every time
bmw has no competition for the AMG GT since they have no supercar otherwise they beat them in almost every segment
go to fastestlaps et check the times