In WYR: 1) '63 GT Hawk 2) My choice of year, '61 Hawk with 4-speed (last year of fins) 3) '63 T-Bird If it would have been a choice in 1) I'd have chosen the '63 Grand Prix that's sitting beside the Hawk. Thanks as always for showing a beautiful vehicle!
Love the podcast idea. Funny you mentioned two other channels I watch regularly! Sounds fun. I’ve been in retail for 20 years; it’s an interesting world
Thank you I think it would be cool to just talk cars with car people once or twice a month the only thing with that segment is the time that those will take place would be different times during the day instead of in the evenings based on their schedule =)
@@luisvelasco316 Me too! If you have been watching Jay as long as I have, you will know not to hold your breath if you want a vid on that Mercedes on the right side! Ha!
Haha I hate 450 sl in my opinion they are terrible but have done the Grand Prix which was also a stellar car ua-cam.com/video/PrauuoOwXqw/v-deo.htmlsi=HRXyUnzTeLp2VXFI
I've had designer pieces and knockoffs of kislux . I ultimately prefer the knockoffs because I'm not worried about scratching it, preserving it, or someone stealing it.
Extraordinarily nicely prepared car, with a price to match. The only flaw I saw was a small fray on the windlace corner where you climb into the rear seat. Beautiful.
I am positively enthralled with this GT. So sleek and very very impressive in black/black, chrome. Inside and out, beautiful. ❤ Thanks for your sense of humor and enthusiasm! You are a gift that not everyone recognizes as a gift 🎁. Keep going and expanding as much as you can handle. Lol Cheers.
Hi Jay! The DDG (drop dead gorgeous) GT Hawk was such a sophisticated design! It could hold its own with the Lincoln Continental MKII or any Cadillac or Thunderbird. The one shown is a VERY NICE example of the breed! Someone is going to get a great car when they buy it! WYR One 1961 Lincoln, Two 1957 GH, Three 1963 GT HAWK! Man it's nice!
I totally agree This car was dropdead gorgeous. It was straight laser. It might be the best black car that I've seen in a while. I still can't get over. It was like looking at a brand new car
I absolutely love this car and would love to have it. I'd choose it in the first and third scenarios but I love the Starlight's styling a little more and would choose it over this by a hair.
This car was perfect laser straight I've never saw one in this shape who ever gets this car is going to have a stellar car underneath looks just like the top
For WYR, it’s the Lincoln first scenario, the 1963 Gran Turismo for the second, and all three for the third (I know, I’m copping out but I really like all of them). I almost watched this last night but I got caught up with the election coverage. Still, I wanted to see it because my father owned a ‘62 model which he drove for about a year. Even as a seven-year-old I thought that was a classy front end, with that radiator-like grille and the bumper guards. I also really liked the dashboard layout. Funny, almost sixty years later I still remember the aroma of its interior. It was white, with a red interior. Out of any of the cars my father drove when I was a kid, it was my favorite.
The 63 Grand Prix was covered ua-cam.com/video/PrauuoOwXqw/v-deo.htmlsi=eXkFgO_IkXsEjYGO Sweet choices =) thank you so much for sharing those memories 61 Cadillac is in the pipeline
@What.its.like. Being a practical person I would prefer to own the Studebaker Station Wagon Wagonair with retractable rear portion of the roof making it a small trucklet even I know that roof, if not modified after market, leaks. It was featured once on your channel. However to look and enjoy Golden Hawk is the best.
'63 is my favorite Studebaker Hawk. I like the C-pillars and the side grills with amber turn signal lights. You showed some interesting cars in your choices but the '63 Hawk wins for me. Thanks for the video!
Jay I love that you called the Twin Traction the Studebaker name for a Limited Slip Differential. Only GM had Posi-Traction, Chrysler had Sure-Grip, Ford had Trac-Lok etc. They are all Limited Slip Differentials they are not all Posi-Traction!
The doohickey in front of the battery is the brake booster. I just love the looks, inside and out, of the entire Hawk series, as well as its 53/54/55 predecessors. That said, they are just average to drive, but yes, you do feel special inside them. For an interesting bit of trivia, the surrounds for the side grilles at the front were chromed on earlier Hawks and painted on the later ones, presumably to save money. The change must have taken place in the middle of the 62 model run, as they are pictured both ways when you look them up. Certainly the amount of chrome in the engine bay of this one is not how they left the factory! For another term for disparaging Fords, there is the Foulcan. Cheers.
Neighbor kid had a new 63 Studmaker Hawk. Black with a red interior and 4 on the floor. I still remember the plaque on the dash that read, "This car built expressly for Doug _______". He was kind of wild and trashed that beautiful machine. The local dealer was a car repair shop that had a spot on the floor marked out in paint stripes to display 1 new car. They sold a lot of Larks, but only 2 Hawks that I know of. The business still exists today. I doubt the present owner even knows they were a Studebaker dealer from 59 to 66. Thanks for this tribute to a classic car that will always have a place in my heart.
Chrysler had 4-wheel disc brakes in 1950. They were nothing like conventional disc brakes. That is a Midland power brake booster. A similar unit was used on the Tri-Five T-Birds, but those were single circuit. Jaguar used similar units in atleast their early-60's sedans, like the 420. If you had a single circuit brake system, you could easily add a Midland power brake unit. We had done it to older Jeep CJ's. I'd go for the '63 Studebaker all day, any day!
GT Hawks are one of my favorites! A family friend had one from new in 1964 to 2018 and it was black like this beauty & sold it when she thought she was too old to drive at 92. 9:06 You probably know this already, but Studebaker for was for a while the only US importer of Mercedes Benz and that grille design was intentional. It just looks better than the old Mercedes design. 17:43 I think all rear seat floors were like that from the 53 Starlight Coupes all the way up to the 64 GT Hawk. The car sits so low that you have a frame member outboard of the rear footwell. WYR 1. Continental 2. The '53.
Even tho I'm a Corvair guy, Studebakers have a place in my heart. I was looking for a 64-66 Wagonaire before I bought my latest Corvair. That Hawk you covered looks like a really nice car! The issue with Studes is that they never had the $$ to modernize the chassis. You still have king pins, and I noticed that the pedals go thru the floor, rather than hanging under the dash. And, they have a really weird steering linkage. I owned a 62 Lark for one day. It threw a rod on the way home. No biggie, I got the car for free. I had to laugh at the pic of the spare tire, With the wide angle lens, it sure doesn't look like the wheel is centered in the tire! WYR= I would take any of them, but the Lincoln is just too big to fit in my garage, and same with the Caddy. The 53 was by far the best looking of the group, with the GT Hawk a close second. Great video, Jay!
1:55 Studebaker also offered the 1963 _Standard_ which was badged simply as _Studebaker._ It shared the Lark two-door and four-door sedans, and the Wagonaire bodies, but it was not marketed or badged as a Lark. The Standard was similar to the earlier '57-'58 Scotsman models in standard equipment and very limited option availability. Studebaker ran at least one ad with _Mr. Ed_ star Alan Young announcing the model and whispering the suggested retail price to passers-by who expressed astonishment.
I worked for a CEO who was a huge car guy And we would talk about car companies and how they were managed. We both agree that studebaker could never figure out who they were they changed strategy too often. Are we an econo compact company or are we a mid level kinda of artsy car. They did not have the bandwidth to do both
4:19 Note the _Split brake system_ text calls out the dual circuit brakes "...standard equipment on all Larks and Cruisers." Note the omission of the Avanti and Hawk models from that statement. Disc brake Studebakers came with a single circuit system. 5:45 Depending on the market, the 170 cube six was available in some European examples, and the 259 V8 in Canada and other regions. In the early seventies, Avanti Motor Corporation included information sheets stating that Studebaker never advertised horsepower for the Avanti-spec engines because (in part) of the disadvantage in displacement. Incidentally, the R1 and R2 engines installed in Hawks and Larks carried the engine number prefix _JT_ and _JTS_ respectively instead of R1 and R2. WYR1: I'd write in the '64 Hawk. The '62 and '63 Hawk stainless steel plate on the vertical plane of the rear deck covered the rust-prone ribbed stamping that dated back to 1956. Studebaker finally found the money to redesign the stamping for '64, providing a smooth and clean painted surface. WYR2: Again, I'd write in the '64 Hawk, with the '55 Speedster as a second choice because the '55 had stronger brakes than the '53-'54s, the '54 would be my next choice because the '53s had serious teething pains. WYR3: Broken record here, but '64 Hawk, but since we're going outside the Bourke coupes, I'd also write in an early-production '63 R1 Avanti with the three-speed (available from June to August, sixty cars so equipped), and air conditioning.
In a related topic to the day, the Avanti was a bit controversial in name. For those who knew contemporary European history. Benito Mussolini, an actual Fascist, the inventor.. father of the political party Fascism, began his life in politics as author of the Italian socialist newspaper, "Avanti!". It was a bit of a curiosity as to why Loewy chose that name here in post WWII America, I wonder if Loewy picked up a bit of an association to some buyers.
Studebaker engineers tried to recess the floor in the rear to improve seating position but the frame is narrow and so the spot to do it was very narrow! If you look under the car you can see how narrow the frame is on all 1953 on Studebakers.
Very beautiful car but I’m going to have to go with the continental, then the studebaker and finally the Rivera in the 3 rd choice. The studes were way ahead of their time I feel in the 50’s with the low stance and all but the continental is beyond compare and the riv is just gorgeous but the studebaker definitely holds its own for sure
It would have been hard to choose especially the last one the bullet bird is an awesome thunderbird the hawk is awesome and so is the rivera but the rivera is built on the X frame so there's that
@@What.its.like.yep all great cars, my older brother actually had a bullet bird in 1970 and even then we always got looks driving in that car but my grandpa had a continental and it was not only like riding on a beautiful cloud but the looks we got in that car were more like people in aw and appreciation, wouldn’t it be nice to have those kind of beautiful and clearly different choices in the car market today 👍
@ thank you so much for sharing those awesome memories I honestly wouldn't mind having a bullet bird, if I had the money, I'd buy 57 gold hawk and I would drive it every day until my wife sees that car Of course she's never seen a golden hawk. The moment she finds out it's an automatic she'd be like nope that's MY CAR LOL
Well there were Great T-birds and some not so great! I think a 1962-64 GT Hawk drives miles better than the same era T-Birds. Plus the GT has a more comfortable driving position. But I would love to have the 1980's Aero T-Bird with the Turbo!! To me it was the best modern T-Bird, the style has aged very well compared to the model that replaced it!
The Hawk GT is a beautiful car but I think a foot should've been removed from the wheelbase, and about nine inches from the rear overhang. With the exception of the 3/4-ton and commercial-sized trucks, it was longer than anything else in the lineup. Darned shame it's only running around on 15×4.5" wheels- I think wider ones would've made it look a little more buff.
When you sit in the driver seat the view shows a classical woodie station wagon to the left. Would yo be able to feature it, if it is still in that mall? That's basically a wood made car on metallic frame.
I will totally do it when I go back there. I'm hoping to go back there in a week or two. Depending I have covered a lot of Woodies on this channel here is the woodie play list I'll have to make sure it's up to date ua-cam.com/play/PLhccQskrvCMk_oDmxxFIDnzOiqnQPKJed.html&si=JkccEwhz_APIkB8Y
That bizarre rear footwell setup was consistent from 53 onwards. I don’t understand why, and it’s very uncomfortable. WYR #1: The Lincoln. WYR #2: The 53 Starlight Coupe. Clean lines and the most modern car of the time. WYR #3: The Thunderbird. Cheers!
@@What.its.like. I was actually hoping you’d have the answer to why it was there … I knew, as soon as you climbed into the backseat, that you’d notice.
The automatic transmission has an unusual feature in that it starts in 2nd gear from a stand start. However on wide open throttle from a standstart it will then start out in 1st gear and hold that gear up to about 40 miles an hour on wide open throttle. Also you can get a full throttle kickdown from 2nd to 1st gear below 25 miles an hour.
I would love to do one with both of them I’m open to anyone in this field I think it’s great when you see other car channels collaborating Derek from vice grip garage would be absolutely amazing, but he’s on a completely different level.
You could've gotten at least one Paxton belt driven centrifugal blower on at least the '64 Hawk. McCullough was one of Studebaker's company purchanses and became Paxton. It was part of the R2 option. The 62-64 Gran Tourismo Hawk is the one I wanted as a kid. No longer made by the time I was 16 with $600 I'd earned to by a car with.
Oddly, my Dad was working with GEICO running their data services and assisted getting Zip Code rolled out as it saved them a ton of money, if it worked. They made it work...free. Look up Studebenz, was a concept car. It still exists and one guess who owns her... That is a brake booster in front of the battery, note the GM style brake light switch on the front. 63 Stude 53 Starlight
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that insight on zip code I always wondered if mail got to the wrong place without zip code because there are some towns with same name or close to same name roads Sweet choices
Yeah I love both companies But like you after studebaker catfished packard it was the same for me I also have no idea why studebaker got to call all the shots when it was packard take over of studebaker
How come for American car loving folks the coupe has to have 2 doors even as a wagon especially in classic cars while Mercedes-Benz now in 2024 offers mostly 4 doors coupe cars, and the same folks do buy those?
I world rather I: Studebaker GT Hawk & I would rather II the Golden Hawk (I actually do not like the tailfins but can't resist the Supercharged power). Brook Steven responsible for some of awesome car design: Willys Pick-up & Jeepster, Kaiser\Jeep\AMC Wagoneer, 1962 Studebaker Lark facelift, Excalibur, Wienermobile, and above all the 1962 GT Hawk makeover.
kislux included, I firmly assert that unless one possesses the requisite skills, differentiating variations in the sack's appearance or metallic elements is an unachievable task.
Van Halen I'll Wait .- I' guess I'll never learn . 1984 album . I bought it when it came out .🤣
That's awesome
Congratulations you got it =)
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What a beautiful Gran Turismo Hawk!.Studebaker sure knew how to design cars in their later years.😎
I've always thought that the GT Hawks were incredibly elegant looking cars!
Stevens did an amazing job, working with what was provided to him.
Totally agree
I've always said that Brooks Stevens was the master of pulling very frisky rabbits out of very shabby hats.
The device in front of the battery is the brake booster.
Also known as a Hydro-Vac, it was a remote-mounted power brake booster.
Awesome thank you
I was in Turkey recently and had a empriente multi pouchette with me. They show me a kislux bag and it looked just like it.
The windshield assembly, like much of the tooling dated back to the original C/K coupe of 1953. These were beautiful cars.
Yeah they didn't change the bones still used king pins
Landmark car, so beautiful! Thanks Jay.
That car was amazing probably the best one I’ve ever saw
It is the brake booster. for the power assist.
Beautiful car Studebaker - 63 - T' Bird
Fantastic looking car. Very classy looking with the formal roof line.
In WYR:
1) '63 GT Hawk
2) My choice of year, '61 Hawk with 4-speed (last year of fins)
3) '63 T-Bird
If it would have been a choice in 1) I'd have chosen the '63 Grand Prix that's sitting beside the Hawk.
Thanks as always for showing a beautiful vehicle!
Sweet choices and write ins are always welcomed =)
Thank you I'm happy you dig this channel
Love the podcast idea. Funny you mentioned two other channels I watch regularly! Sounds fun. I’ve been in retail for 20 years; it’s an interesting world
Thank you I think it would be cool to just talk cars with car people once or twice a month the only thing with that segment is the time that those will take place would be different times during the day instead of in the evenings based on their schedule =)
@ I think it’s an awesome idea!
The Stude is beautiful, but also some darned nice neighbors too!
I'd like to see a video on that Grand Prix.
@@luisvelasco316 Me too! If you have been watching Jay as long as I have, you will know not to hold your breath if you want a vid on that Mercedes on the right side! Ha!
Haha I hate 450 sl in my opinion they are terrible but have done the Grand Prix which was also a stellar car
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I was 3 yrs old when a neighbor in 1964 bought one of the last ones right before they shut shop down in South Bend. I loved that car !!!
i get the thunderbird joke.my brother had a 72. what a tank on pinto spec springs.like a rowboat on rough sea on any road except the interstate.
This car is absolutely gorgeous!!!! Thanks Jay. 😊
I've had designer pieces and knockoffs of kislux . I ultimately prefer the knockoffs because I'm not worried about scratching it, preserving it, or someone stealing it.
I'll take the Imperial! That Stude is an awesome American car. Well built and innovative for 1963.
I have always had a soft spot for Studebakers. Of all cars shown here my car of choice would be the 1963 Gran Turismo Hawk because it is the rarest.
This car is simply gorgeous.. paintwork is stunning..the instrument panel has an European vibe to it
Totally agree
If I had luxury money I would own this masterpiece. Thanks for the tour.
This was the best one I've ever saw it was so straight and so clean whoever buys this car is getting a great example
Extraordinarily nicely prepared car, with a price to match. The only flaw I saw was a small fray on the windlace corner where you climb into the rear seat. Beautiful.
I am positively enthralled with this GT. So sleek and very very impressive in black/black, chrome. Inside and out, beautiful. ❤
Thanks for your sense of humor and enthusiasm!
You are a gift that not everyone recognizes as a gift 🎁.
Keep going and expanding as much as you can handle. Lol
Cheers.
Hi Jay! The DDG (drop dead gorgeous) GT Hawk was such a sophisticated design! It could hold its own with the Lincoln Continental MKII or any Cadillac or Thunderbird. The one shown is a VERY NICE example of the breed! Someone is going to get a great car when they buy it! WYR One 1961 Lincoln, Two 1957 GH, Three 1963 GT HAWK! Man it's nice!
I totally agree This car was dropdead gorgeous. It was straight laser. It might be the best black car that I've seen in a while. I still can't get over. It was like looking at a brand new car
This is a beautiful car.
Wow, that GT Hawk is absolutely gorgeous. The chrome, the paint and the interior. Thanks, Jay.
excellent paint job on this one
This car was razor straight best one I've ever saw
I absolutely love this car and would love to have it. I'd choose it in the first and third scenarios but I love the Starlight's styling a little more and would choose it over this by a hair.
This car was perfect laser straight I've never saw one in this shape who ever gets this car is going to have a stellar car underneath looks just like the top
For WYR, it’s the Lincoln first scenario, the 1963 Gran Turismo for the second, and all three for the third (I know, I’m copping out but I really like all of them).
I almost watched this last night but I got caught up with the election coverage. Still, I wanted to see it because my father owned a ‘62 model which he drove for about a year. Even as a seven-year-old I thought that was a classy front end, with that radiator-like grille and the bumper guards. I also really liked the dashboard layout. Funny, almost sixty years later I still remember the aroma of its interior. It was white, with a red interior. Out of any of the cars my father drove when I was a kid, it was my favorite.
BTW it looks like you had a bunch of cars surrounding this beauty you could feature…the ‘63 Grand Prix, a Woody station wagon, a Cougar…
The 63 Grand Prix was covered
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Sweet choices =) thank you so much for sharing those memories
61 Cadillac is in the pipeline
There's nothing more iconic than Studebaker Golden Hawk in my eyes.
That's my favorite I love that car in black and white or red and white such a stellar car and is my favorite 50s car awesome choice
@What.its.like. Being a practical person I would prefer to own the Studebaker Station Wagon Wagonair with retractable rear portion of the roof making it a small trucklet even I know that roof, if not modified after market, leaks. It was featured once on your channel.
However to look and enjoy Golden Hawk is the best.
I want to cover all studebaker models eventually =)
'63 is my favorite Studebaker Hawk. I like the C-pillars and the side grills with amber turn signal lights. You showed some interesting cars in your choices but the '63 Hawk wins for me. Thanks for the video!
Jay I love that you called the Twin Traction the Studebaker name for a Limited Slip Differential. Only GM had Posi-Traction, Chrysler had Sure-Grip, Ford had Trac-Lok etc. They are all Limited Slip Differentials they are not all Posi-Traction!
The doohickey in front of the battery is the brake booster. I just love the looks, inside and out, of the entire Hawk series, as well as its 53/54/55 predecessors. That said, they are just average to drive, but yes, you do feel special inside them. For an interesting bit of trivia, the surrounds for the side grilles at the front were chromed on earlier Hawks and painted on the later ones, presumably to save money. The change must have taken place in the middle of the 62 model run, as they are pictured both ways when you look them up. Certainly the amount of chrome in the engine bay of this one is not how they left the factory! For another term for disparaging Fords, there is the Foulcan. Cheers.
Awesome thank you so much I don't ever recall seeing a hydro-vac under the hood super interesting
A sad glimpsed of an end of an era. I noticed that the rear windows roll down just like my 56 VW Convertible's.
Neighbor kid had a new 63 Studmaker Hawk. Black with a red interior and 4 on the floor. I still remember the plaque on the dash that read, "This car built expressly for Doug _______". He was kind of wild and trashed that beautiful machine. The local dealer was a car repair shop that had a spot on the floor marked out in paint stripes to display 1 new car. They sold a lot of Larks, but only 2 Hawks that I know of. The business still exists today. I doubt the present owner even knows they were a Studebaker dealer from 59 to 66. Thanks for this tribute to a classic car that will always have a place in my heart.
Chrysler had 4-wheel disc brakes in 1950. They were nothing like conventional disc brakes.
That is a Midland power brake booster. A similar unit was used on the Tri-Five T-Birds, but those were single circuit. Jaguar used similar units in atleast their early-60's sedans, like the 420. If you had a single circuit brake system, you could easily add a Midland power brake unit. We had done it to older Jeep CJ's.
I'd go for the '63 Studebaker all day, any day!
Starlight Coupe has always been a favorite
54 2 door wagon 😍
Fantastic Example tonight
Beautiful Car 👍
Great Episode
Happy Motoring ✌️😎
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Tonight's car was the best I've seen in 63 hawk that car is so straight
GT Hawks are one of my favorites! A family friend had one from new in 1964 to 2018 and it was black like this beauty & sold it when she thought she was too old to drive at 92. 9:06 You probably know this already, but Studebaker for was for a while the only US importer of Mercedes Benz and that grille design was intentional. It just looks better than the old Mercedes design. 17:43 I think all rear seat floors were like that from the 53 Starlight Coupes all the way up to the 64 GT Hawk. The car sits so low that you have a frame member outboard of the rear footwell. WYR 1. Continental 2. The '53.
Sweet choices thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight greatly appreciate it.
Even tho I'm a Corvair guy, Studebakers have a place in my heart. I was looking for a 64-66 Wagonaire before I bought my latest Corvair. That Hawk you covered looks like a really nice car! The issue with Studes is that they never had the $$ to modernize the chassis. You still have king pins, and I noticed that the pedals go thru the floor, rather than hanging under the dash. And, they have a really weird steering linkage. I owned a 62 Lark for one day. It threw a rod on the way home. No biggie, I got the car for free. I had to laugh at the pic of the spare tire, With the wide angle lens, it sure doesn't look like the wheel is centered in the tire! WYR= I would take any of them, but the Lincoln is just too big to fit in my garage, and same with the Caddy. The 53 was by far the best looking of the group, with the GT Hawk a close second. Great video, Jay!
Great insight sweet choices
0:20 The Twin Traction call-out badge is a great design!
Thanks Jay, another of my favorite cars gets its “15 minutes of fame”! WYR: #1 63 Cadillac #2 63 Studebaker GT R1 #3 63 Buick Riviera😎❤️
1:55 Studebaker also offered the 1963 _Standard_ which was badged simply as _Studebaker._
It shared the Lark two-door and four-door sedans, and the Wagonaire bodies, but it was not marketed or badged as a Lark.
The Standard was similar to the earlier '57-'58 Scotsman models in standard equipment and very limited option availability.
Studebaker ran at least one ad with _Mr. Ed_ star Alan Young announcing the model and whispering the suggested retail price to passers-by who expressed astonishment.
I worked for a CEO who was a huge car guy And we would talk about car companies and how they were managed. We both agree that studebaker could never figure out who they were they changed strategy too often. Are we an econo compact company or are we a mid level kinda of artsy car. They did not have the bandwidth to do both
Totally agree it sucked at the end they just never could get the right person at the helm
I always enjoy an after party 👍
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This and all WYR's are great IMO. I'd go with the Cadillac, the Gran Turismo, and the Riviera.😎
Sweet choices
for a nitty gritty look, Dead Dodge Garage did a series of vids of his multiple repairs to a ...61 Hawk I think it was.
4:19 Note the _Split brake system_ text calls out the dual circuit brakes "...standard equipment on all Larks and Cruisers."
Note the omission of the Avanti and Hawk models from that statement.
Disc brake Studebakers came with a single circuit system.
5:45 Depending on the market, the 170 cube six was available in some European examples, and the 259 V8 in Canada and other regions.
In the early seventies, Avanti Motor Corporation included information sheets stating that Studebaker never advertised horsepower for the Avanti-spec engines because (in part) of the disadvantage in displacement.
Incidentally, the R1 and R2 engines installed in Hawks and Larks carried the engine number prefix _JT_ and _JTS_ respectively instead of R1 and R2.
WYR1: I'd write in the '64 Hawk. The '62 and '63 Hawk stainless steel plate on the vertical plane of the rear deck covered the rust-prone ribbed stamping that dated back to 1956. Studebaker finally found the money to redesign the stamping for '64, providing a smooth and clean painted surface.
WYR2: Again, I'd write in the '64 Hawk, with the '55 Speedster as a second choice because the '55 had stronger brakes than the '53-'54s, the '54 would be my next choice because the '53s had serious teething pains.
WYR3: Broken record here, but '64 Hawk, but since we're going outside the Bourke coupes, I'd also write in an early-production '63 R1 Avanti with the three-speed (available from June to August, sixty cars so equipped), and air conditioning.
Great video Jay! Studebakers, aka Steady Breakers, were not that bad, well done
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1:58 Note the child-size replica Studebaker wagon dog cart in the foreground with the Saint Bernard.
In a related topic to the day, the Avanti was a bit controversial in name. For those who knew contemporary European history. Benito Mussolini, an actual Fascist, the inventor.. father of the political party Fascism, began his life in politics as author of the Italian socialist newspaper, "Avanti!". It was a bit of a curiosity as to why Loewy chose that name here in post WWII America, I wonder if Loewy picked up a bit of an association to some buyers.
Lincoln, Gran Turismo, Riviera
If memory serves those 289 were 700+ lbs with a deep skirt and gobs of iron
Studebaker engineers tried to recess the floor in the rear to improve seating position but the frame is narrow and so the spot to do it was very narrow! If you look under the car you can see how narrow the frame is on all 1953 on Studebakers.
Thank you for sharing that insight and information
WYR: All of them.
Awesome =)
Enjoyed the GT hawk, first pick 63 GT Hawk, second 53-55 starlite coupe.
Sweet choices =)
Very beautiful car but I’m going to have to go with the continental, then the studebaker and finally the Rivera in the 3 rd choice. The studes were way ahead of their time I feel in the 50’s with the low stance and all but the continental is beyond compare and the riv is just gorgeous but the studebaker definitely holds its own for sure
It would have been hard to choose especially the last one the bullet bird is an awesome thunderbird the hawk is awesome and so is the rivera but the rivera is built on the X frame so there's that
@@What.its.like.yep all great cars, my older brother actually had a bullet bird in 1970 and even then we always got looks driving in that car but my grandpa had a continental and it was not only like riding on a beautiful cloud but the looks we got in that car were more like people in aw and appreciation, wouldn’t it be nice to have those kind of beautiful and clearly different choices in the car market today 👍
@ thank you so much for sharing those awesome memories I honestly wouldn't mind having a bullet bird, if I had the money, I'd buy 57 gold hawk and I would drive it every day until my wife sees that car Of course she's never seen a golden hawk. The moment she finds out it's an automatic she'd be like nope that's MY CAR LOL
Well there were Great T-birds and some not so great! I think a 1962-64 GT Hawk drives miles better than the same era T-Birds. Plus the GT has a more comfortable driving position. But I would love to have the 1980's Aero T-Bird with the Turbo!! To me it was the best modern T-Bird, the style has aged very well compared to the model that replaced it!
63 Lincoln first choice, 63 Caddy second choice in my humble opinion.
The Hawk GT is a beautiful car but I think a foot should've been removed from the wheelbase, and about nine inches from the rear overhang. With the exception of the 3/4-ton and commercial-sized trucks, it was longer than anything else in the lineup. Darned shame it's only running around on 15×4.5" wheels- I think wider ones would've made it look a little more buff.
Wyr 1: the Lincoln, 2: 56 Golden Hawk, 3: the Riviera
When you sit in the driver seat the view shows a classical woodie station wagon to the left.
Would yo be able to feature it, if it is still in that mall?
That's basically a wood made car on metallic frame.
I will totally do it when I go back there. I'm hoping to go back there in a week or two. Depending
I have covered a lot of Woodies on this channel here is the woodie play list I'll have to make sure it's up to date
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That bizarre rear footwell setup was consistent from 53 onwards. I don’t understand why, and it’s very uncomfortable.
WYR #1: The Lincoln.
WYR #2: The 53 Starlight Coupe. Clean lines and the most modern car of the time.
WYR #3: The Thunderbird.
Cheers!
Sweet choices and totally agree about the rear footwell that's why I pointed it out it's crazy they didn't fix it moving forward
@@What.its.like. I was actually hoping you’d have the answer to why it was there … I knew, as soon as you climbed into the backseat, that you’d notice.
It's weird lol
The automatic transmission has an unusual feature in that it starts in 2nd gear from a stand start. However on wide open throttle from a standstart it will then start out in 1st gear and hold that gear up to about 40 miles an hour on wide open throttle. Also you can get a full throttle kickdown from 2nd to 1st gear below 25 miles an hour.
Yeah, Adam strikes me as being rather aloof. No surprise he didn't respond.
Adam did do a collab with Ed, the Dutch guy from Ed's Auto Reviews. But I do kind of agree with your comment.
I would love to do one with both of them I’m open to anyone in this field I think it’s great when you see other car channels collaborating Derek from vice grip garage would be absolutely amazing, but he’s on a completely different level.
You could've gotten at least one Paxton belt driven centrifugal blower on at least the '64 Hawk. McCullough was one of Studebaker's company purchanses and became Paxton. It was part of the R2 option.
The 62-64 Gran Tourismo Hawk is the one I wanted as a kid. No longer made by the time I was 16 with $600 I'd earned to by a car with.
I think you left out Ecoburst !
Oddly, my Dad was working with GEICO running their data services and assisted getting Zip Code rolled out as it saved them a ton of money, if it worked. They made it work...free.
Look up Studebenz, was a concept car. It still exists and one guess who owns her... That is a brake booster in front of the battery, note the GM style brake light switch on the front.
63 Stude
53 Starlight
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that insight on zip code I always wondered if mail got to the wrong place without zip code because there are some towns with same name or close to same name roads
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Love this car and Studebaker in general, but honestly, I resent the fact Studebaker screwed over Packard and that leaves a bit of a black mark to me.
Yeah I love both companies
But like you after studebaker catfished packard it was the same for me
I also have no idea why studebaker got to call all the shots when it was packard take over of studebaker
63 Lincoln
Van Halen I'll wait.
WIL ................we used to call the Studebakers ..........Stud .......Baker .........it was funny in the 60s and 70s
Hahaha I love his channel
63 Hawk both times
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How come for American car loving folks the coupe has to have 2 doors even as a wagon especially in classic cars while Mercedes-Benz now in 2024 offers mostly 4 doors coupe cars, and the same folks do buy those?
I world rather I: Studebaker GT Hawk & I would rather II the Golden Hawk (I actually do not like the tailfins but can't resist the Supercharged power). Brook Steven responsible for some of awesome car design: Willys Pick-up & Jeepster, Kaiser\Jeep\AMC Wagoneer, 1962 Studebaker Lark facelift, Excalibur, Wienermobile, and above all the 1962 GT Hawk makeover.
Sweet choices and insight
I'd buy a new one for that price even though it doesn't have air-conditioning, power steering or brakes at that price!!!
As Fine as you Are
Van Halen. I'll wait. I guess I'll never learn.
Yes that's it Andrea beat you for title
Lincoln Buick
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Van Halen Love comes down?
It is Van Halen not that song
kislux included, I firmly assert that unless one possesses the requisite skills, differentiating variations in the sack's appearance or metallic elements is an unachievable task.
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Studebacker had very areodynamic cars in the 50’s and early 60’s then they made them ugly !
No AC?
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