Jay- got a golden hawk story for you. My friend had one he was quite proud of. He went off to Vietnam Nam in the army, leaving strict orders that his little brother was NOT to drive it. Well, he did, and got into a fender bender. Well, their dad paid to have it fixed and painted. When my friend got home he was enjoying the Hawk and its new paint job. It took a couple of weeks to realize the passenger side fender vent had been bondoed over. Vent parts were not available.
7:00 A three-speed manual with overdrive was not the same as a four-speed manual. Overdrive could be engaged in any of the three forward gears at speed greater than about 27 mph. Average drivers would use overdrive in top gear only, but for performance you could satart in first, shift to second, let up pn the gas to engage second-over, then shift to third and then third-over. Flooring the throttle when overdrive was engaged kicked back down to direct drive, often called _PASSING GEAR_ and with the shorter axle ratios fitted to overdrive-equipped cars, it was a neck-snapper, especially when that McCulloch variable-ratio V57 supercharger spun up.
I’m sure glad you did one on Studebaker. One of my favorite cars and you just don’t hear much about anymore. They were a wonderful car back in the day sadly sadly missed.
I totally agree anytime I see one of these in the wild I totally lose it. This is my favorite 50s car I really really want one and I’m to the point that I don’t even care if it’s a silver hawk just have a hawk would be really cool and I would drive it every day… 51 Hudson hornet is also a really good contender. I think those are drastically underrated, but it’s a totally different class of cars I guess not really nothing sounds like it.
I agree, this was one of the best cars of the ‘50s. I remember sitting in one of these at a classic car show and the sense of quality and style was unmatched. One of my all time favourite classic cars.
I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE SHOWING A STUD. MY FIRST CAR WAS A STUDEBAKER SILVER HAWK, I WAS 15 YEARS OLD MY OLDER BROTHER "BILL" TAUGHT ME HOW TO DRIVE. IT WAS A GREAT CAR.
These are a beautiful car, with its styling puffing its chest out where ever you look. They always give me a sense of cheerfulness. A brand I definitely miss very much.
Hi Jay! All I can say is WOW! PRIME Golden Hawk, PRIME color scheme, PRIME condition! I am with you that the 1957 Golden Hawk is one of the most beautiful of the 1950's cars. Would like to drive one someday. WYR's are the easiest so far! 1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk for ALL THREE!
Awesome choices I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a huge fan of this car in gold. This car looks great in every color gold eh I saw a teal one once it was epic but my favorite color combination is black and white for this car. I also love the red and white just about every other color but gold and white not to say that it’s bad it’s just I think it’s a bit over the top.
Absolutely stunning car, and this one is exceptional. WYR: 1957 Golden Hawk, 1957 Hawk again, although the 300 is a close second. In the last choice - 1957 Hawk.....I love styling/performance balance. Thank you as always - well done ~ Chuck
Nothing says America like a 57 golden hawk This is my favorite 50s car I really want to drive what I’ve been putting this off because I’ve been trying to find somebody that has one but I haven’t found anyone so I figured I’ll do this and then if I ever find anybody that owns the car I will definitely revisit this car =) Sweet choices happy you dig this episode
A beautiful automobile. I learned to drive in one of these fined Golden Hawks. My mother's boyfriend a car salesman owned it. It had a metal plate attached to the swirled dash having a production number with a name and city of the Texan it was originally built for. Stick shift and if you were not careful it would smoke the tires and leave "burn out" marks on the street.
0:06 "...redesigned by Robert Byork..."? Never heard of him. Studebaker's Starlight and Starliner coupes introduced in January of 1953 were designed by an employee of _Raymond Loewy Associates,_ a talented gentleman named Robert Bourke...
@@What.its.like. Congested? Home remedy: strong hot tea with the juice of a whole lime in the cup and a diabetic-unfriendly amount of honey to sweeten. I don't think the FDA has done a study, but it makes me feel better. Vapors from the hot liquid are said to be good for the swollen membranes, honey sooths the throat, tannins from the tea are a bit astringent, and the lime gives a bright kick. Sort of a hot lime-aid. Again, feel better!
WYR1: All three have their charms. The '56 Packard 352 could take a dual-four-barrel carb set-up and acould be had with an Isky cam (I knew a little old lady whose husband had bought a Golden Hawk and had it fitted with the bigger Packard 374 engine and dual quads, and three-on-the-tree overdrive, a real brute, but he died the evening after he took delivery in the afternoon, Mrs. W. had never learned to drive before the car passed to her. It had less than 20,000 miles on it in 1976. I worked for the service station that serviced the car for her, and on a couple of occasions I drove it to her house after we had serviced it. The supercharged '57 model didn't have the standard torque of the Packard V8, buy it had just about the best power-to-weight ratio of any five-passenger car on the road. The available _Flight-O-Matic_ transmission in the '57-'58 models (including the Packard Hawk) was a three-speed as opposed to the two-speed Twin Ultramatic offered in the '56 Golden Hawk (the .56 non-Packard powered Flight Hawk 185 cid six, Power Hawk 259 V8, and Sky Hawk, and in all steel-body Studebakers from 1955 through the end of production in 1966) was considered to be more reliable. Only 588 exampled of the Packard Hawk were built, mechanically identical to the '57-'58 Golden Hawk 400 with the 400's trim upgrades and the :spare wheel' stamping on the rear deck certainly fot attention, but noy many buyers due to the "controversial" (read "hideous") grille. And note the vinul arm rest on the outside of the Packard's doors. I'd take any of them provided I could get one with manual overdrive and available factory air conditioning. WYR2: The elephants in the room here are the absence of the 275 horsepower 327 cubic inch Rambler Rebel, a car that struck fear in the hearts of Chrysler 300 drivers, and the DeSoto Adventurer, the first American car to provide one horsepower per cubic inch as standard equipment. Sorry, bow-tie buffs. The 283 horse fuelie engine was a mid-year introduction and the top engine option, not standard equipment. That said, I would take the Studebaker, again with overdrive with the Rambler a close second, boosted by its best-in-the industry air conditioning but with the disadvantage of a torque-tube type drive shaft. I like the looks of the Adventurer over the 300, and the TBird is only for people with no kids, no pets. WYR3 Okay, any of the three. The Hawk would, again be my first choice, the Rebel is the ultimate sleeper, as a second, and while the Adventurer was the best-looking of the upper-priced Chrysler products, Chrysler Corporation's entire 1957 line-up had serious quality deficiencies, more bugs than a tandem-axle dump truck load of bat droppings.
No need for an introduction Jay, The '57 Golden Hawk has been my dream car for 68 years (introduced September of '56 (4 months after me)). It is absolutely beautiful. If I had a collector's budget there would be one (at least one) in my garage (if I also had a garage). To be fair, I did own a Dinky Toy die-cast Golden Hawk, which would probably be worth today what a real V6 Silver Hawk was in '57 had I not destroyed it via childhood. I've been waiting for you to feature this one...not sure how I missed it for a month. Of your summary options: Lordy that Packard Hawk has a grotesque snout. Looks like a chimpanzee mated with a sea-bass. Ugliest modification ever done to a production vehicle for no reason other than branding. I think they were going for "sporty" and failed in the worst way possible. As for the Studebakers, the '56 Hawk's fins always looked to me like they were added as a last minute design change (like the car was never intended to have fins), whereas they are perfectly incorporated into the body lines of the '57. I prefer the two-tone horizontal splitting of the '56"s profile. It makes the car look lower and sleeker, while the '57's fin-sculp second tone provides a feeling of motion when stationary. A "57 Golden Hawk for me, please and thank you. In gold with beige fin sculp - I prefer a milder contrast. (I've also seen the second tone applied to the washboard on the trunk, which I also like). Great video as always there brother.
I'm so happy you got to see this one. It's hard to keep up. I post a lot... so it's possible that they slipped in between the cracks. This is my favorite 50s car I want to own one so bad I like just about every color combination except the gold the gold not bad but I would rather have a black-and-white one personally. Or teal and white that's a great color combo Thank you so much for digging this channel. It really means a lot to me.
As you say, the 1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk is the best example of 1950’s car design and you’ve done an amazing job of capturing its design excellence in this video!... The texturized effect on the deck lid does it for me!!...BTW - Awesome idea to include the extra video at the end as you’ve been doing for a while now!!!
Happy you dig this episode =) I figured just adding all the b roll because it’s all good and should be seen.. I might release some other cars that I still have b roll for as just bonus material every cars since doing this has that b roll you guys just didn’t get to see all of it. But happy you like that part I need to add music to it some how
In scenario 1) I would take the Hawk. In scenario 2) I would take the Thunderbird. In scenario 3) I would take the Rambler. Jay, you never know the impact you will have on other people when you pursue your passion, but you will have an impact. I remember the first video I watched on your channel was of a pink 1956 Hudson Rambler Cross Country. I had just baked a pizza and sat down at my kitchen counter to watch. I never guessed that I would eventually binge watch your videos or schedule my weekly viewing around your releases … nor could I have guessed that you would reignite my interest in the AMC family of cars. I’m a dyed in the wool FoMoCo man. I’ve always appreciated AMCs, Nashes, Ramblers and Hudsons, but I never get to see them. Last year you did a video on the 1955 Hudson Rambler Cross Country and something clicked. I fell in love with that car. For years I’ve just overlooked it in car books, never even considering learning about it. But that video of yours really sparked something in me. Since then, I’ve been devouring anything I can find on Ramblers and their kindred cars. You really gave me a new hobby that I’m enjoying so much. In a few weeks I’m going to drive for two days to get to Colorado Springs to visit the Rambler Ranch. I don’t know if you’re familiar with it, but you would love it. I’ve had a rough year this year, and I’m so excited for this trip. About the only thing that would make my trip better would be to meet you there. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for inspiring me with a new love for Ramblers and giving me a new hobby. I really enjoy your channel!!!
Thank you so so much. This was always the goal was to get more people involved in the orphan cars. There are so many more cars out there than Mustang Corvette, Thunderbird Camaro… did a lot of ways. I don’t think a lot of people know that these cars even exist. Thank you so much for the positive vibes. I’m happy that you’re still digging the channel after years you’ve been with us since pretty much it’s inception and I admit, even in the early days I wasn’t entirely sure which direction this was going to go I knew that I really wanted to do Classic Cars/vintage cars I just wasn’t 100% sure how to go about doing it and now that I have a formula and a format that works. I can’t wait to see where it goes. I absolutely love the orphan cars. They are my favorite cars to cover because maybe I can bring the light different cars that need to be remembered. Another thing I find very interesting is the big three they wasn’t as innovative as the independence but just like it a risk game they just sat back they let the independence do all of the innovation and run out of money, and then they just came in and took everything.. Yeah, now that there isn’t any independents left, you could see the big three have struggled and reset decades I have never been to the Rambler Ranch. I’ve heard about it but I’ve never been there. I’ve never been to Colorado if you ever want to meet up sometime we can make it happen. What state are you from? I’m in Pennsylvania.
@@What.its.like. exactly. Nash and Hudson (and Studebaker and Packard) were so innovative. Their cars are always so interesting!! Keep doing what you’re doing!
Glad you found another Golden hawk. Watched the 56 video first then this one. First pick 57 Golden Hawk, or Packard Hawk second 56 President Speedster lime green and yellow, fastest pick 57 Rebel hardtop.
My uncle had a 57 Studebaker that was Pink, White, and Gray on the exterior and had leopard design seat material. He was a big 'Dutch man' and felt like a rock star in that car.
When Studebaker decided to join the V8 club, they overbuilt it. In other words, it could take whatever you'd want to add to it. The other cars got the 259 V8, not 159. The engine would eventually grow to 304 c.i. and sport 2 McCulloch super chargers. I heard that Andy Granatelli owned atleast part of McCulloch and talked Studebaker into using it. He was responsible for setting some land speed records with Studebaker's Avanti at Bonneville. As for the engine in this car, it was a supercharged 289 V8 but only had a 2-barrel carburetor. It was not the same as the famed R-2, which used a 4-barrel carb. I think that anybody who chose anything but the Chrysler C300C would be crazy. That 392 Hemi V8 was pumping out more horsepower than Studebaker could ever dream of. The '57 Chrysler was the quintessential design to represent the late-50's. The Golden Hawk is cool, but, a-h-h-h-h, it's not a Chrysler 300.
Totally agree this is one of the most incredible auto designs ever. This is a real stunner, every exquisite detail of it!🤩 All the WYR's look awesome, a dream trio for me would be either of the Stud Hawks, the 300 from the second, and the Adventurer, even though the Rebel would be hard to pass up, I'd probably have to really think about that one. Cool video 😎
Frank Zappa wrote a song in reference to the Studebaker Hawk. I really like the fact that they used a supercharger, and not a turbo. They result in improved power delivery at all engine speeds, and have no lag. I watched a Ute-Ube on a fellow, who had fully restored 2 of the Golden Hawks, and they were amazing to see. Exactly like factory fresh units.
I like the '53-'54 Starlight-Starliners, the '56 Hawks were pretty good, but the '57-'61 tail fins copied from the Rambler Palm Beach show car, that is "an acquired taste." My favorite Hawks are the Gran Turismo models from'62-'64, the '64 being the best of the bunch due to the new stamping for the deck lid exterior panel.
I would love to cover that car I love that concept car. I know they made a couple of them one came up for sale a little while back. I think they made four but I’m not entirely sure.
6:36 You might want to read the text card for the bore and stroke figures, and there is something incorrect with the torque spec quoted as well. A 4-inch bore and 3.5 inch stroke works out to 351.9 cubic inches, the Packard 352 dimensions. The 380 pound-feet torque figure is also for the '56 Packard powered car.The supercharged Studebaker 289 matched the Packard's 275 horsepower, but the advertised gross torque figure was 333 pound-feet. I have edited this comment after reading your response. I hope you feel better soon and look forward to the Henry J review you mentioned. The Henry J WYR choices I hope you will consider inclusion of the often-overlooked Willys Aero compact.
The figures that I found when I was reading was wrong they I absolutely hate it when people round specifications and I wasn’t going back and fixing it.. so I fixed on the slide
What a coincidence! Today I saw a 62-63 Hawk with the Brooks Stevens restyled C pillars. It was just waiting at a stoplight as I went by in the opposite direction. I like the styling better than this Golden Hawk, but both are really stunning cars. Studebaker's problem was always no money. Even the last 66 Canadian Studes still had the 53 frame underneath, and they still used kingpins instead of ball joints. Stude couldn't afford much more than minor styling changes. I remember as a kid, seeing Studes with "TT" on the back panel, and it took years before I found out that it meant "Twin Traction". I loved the sound of their V8 engines! WYR= All of them, but not the 58 Packard- just too ugly. Fun fact: The Mercedes-like grille was a tribute to Studebaker being the sales outlet for Mercedes-Benz at the time. All in all, the 53 Starlight coupe was by far the best looking of them all. Glad your voice is better, but it still sounds a bit gravelly.
If you like the looks of the 53 - 55 better, go for the 54 or 55. The 53's frame was too light and flexible, and it had lousy brakes - too small, unless car was a 6 cyl
jay the studes are beautiful and would have been an easy would you rather winner but you had to put up that chrysler 300 and the desoto ,, now I cant decide, I want them all
My first car was a 1957 Golden Hawk when I got my driver's license in 1966. White with gold trim. Sold it a year later and bought a 1961 MGA - fun car to drive. Gave that MGA to my brother and bought a 1967 Chevelle SS 396 - 350 HP - 4 speed in 1968 used - very FAST car - Best ET in the 1/4 mile was 12.56 @ 108.xx MPH @ Englishtown Raceway Park NJ. Sold it when I got married in 1971. I cried when I sold it!
Thank you I’m happy you dig this one truthfully told this is my favorite 50s car I really want one.. I would even settle for a silver hawk stellar cars
Excellent video, anyway I just wanted to let you know that I’m going to be making a fan episode on my spare channel and basically it’s a what if scenario what if the VR4 engine became popular and that scenario is addressed by Disney in 1961 recording will begin soon.
Gorgeous car from every angle. I want to mention that it's also a forerunner of sorts in concept and size to the 2 + 2 cars sporty that would come years later, like Mustang and Camaro.
One day I would love to get all the fastest cars of the 50s and 57 and run them. It would be something that I would love to collaborate with a big auto insurance provider on… if they would let me be apart of it
@@What.its.like. there are people racing Studebakers today, here is a good link 12 sec lark raced by an 80 yr old kicking but and taking names ua-cam.com/video/-WmF-w6-EkQ/v-deo.html and yes it's stock
The styling is gorgeous. I've never seen on in the wild. I've read that the engine/supercharger had some reliability issues. Did you run across any info on reliability/durability of this powerplant?
When I was 15 my older brother owned a Golden Hawk exactly like this car, I took my drivers test in my brothers Golden Hawk Pa at the State Police driver center in Wyoming Pa. My brother is still sorry he sold his beloved G Hawk, even though I went on to own more Hawks including a 56 GH I never came across another Tiera Gold Arctic White 57 Hawk. I wish I knew the serial number of his Hawk, this one is not far from where we live I may have to go see it in person.
For WYR, for the first scenario it’s both the ‘56 and ‘57 Golden, Hawk, for the second it’s the Golden Hawk and the Thunderbird, the third the Golden Hawk. But what can I add? Nothing…it’s a great car to look at. It reminds me of my dad’s ‘62 Gran Turismo. I still remember the aroma of the interior 58 years later. I wish he kept the car.
The 1957 Chrysler 300 was a beast! With a 392 Hemi, and two four barrel carbs. I can't hardly believe the Rambler Rebel could beat that! I would take the 1956 Studebaker hawk with the Packard engine, and the Chrysler 300 with the Hemi!
I want to one day find somebody that has a 57 Rambler rebel that would love to drive it and put it up against the cars that it was faster than.. and settle wasn’t for all. Was it really as fast as legend suggests That is a car that I’ve been looking for very hard to find I know of a few collections that have that car in it. I just haven’t been able to get a hold of the person in charge of the collections. .. I found a Kaiser Henry J fingers crossed. I’m hoping that he’ll let us do it. I was supposed to contact him whenever I got home but I’ve had these really bad allergies. I don’t know if it’s allergies or if it’s a sickness and don’t if I’m contagious, I don’t wanna go around anybody. .. but I’m pretty sure it’s allergies cause cold medicine. Does it do anything to help
@@What.its.like. 1957 was the first year for Ramblers 327. They ran pretty strong but unless you had a T-85 BW three speed, the auto transmission in AMC those years were junk! They had a two piece torque converter that always leaked, and an enclosed drive shaft to the rear end Don't ask me how I know! Chrysler had the legendary 392 Hemi and a three speed torque flight, they worked very well, and we're as tough as a cheap steak!
Hahaha tough as a cheap steak I might have to use that That 300 was a force to be reckoned with as well as the adventurer there was a lot of really fast cars that come out to 57 that would blow the doors off the Corvette, which I stand by my opinion are overrated .. I love the orphan cars, the cars that never got the time of day
I'd take the '56 Hawk. I drove a dealer-hot-rodded one with very low miles on a couple of occasins in the mid-seventies and WOW!. Just stay clear of the optional Packard-supplied Twin Ultramatic transmission. It was well-designed, but poorly executed. The Golden Hawks as well as the Packard Hawk and the Rebel were available with three-on-the-tree with overdrive, said transmission being capable of withstanding all the torque a dual-quad Packard 374 could muster with a hot cam.
Fun fact, Prior to joining Studebaker, Sherwood Egbert (Studebaker President) was the CEO of McCulloch Motors Corporation which was part of the Paxton\McCulloch conglomerate that provided the Supercharge system to the Studebaker Golden Hawk and the Studebaker GT Hawk. My favorite Golden Hawk is the 56' with the smallest tailfins.
One of the nicest car ever. Totally dig it. I'm not into convertibles and definitely do not care about motorcycles. The only open air vehicle I like to ride is the bicycle.
I'm going to pick the '57 Golden Hawk for all 3 scenarios. About 10 years ago, my brother and I went to Mecum Indy and there was a '57 Silver Hawk (with a blueprinted 327 Chevy small block) right before a '63 Impala Super Sport with a 327/ 4-speed. He flipped a coin and decided to bid on (and bought) the '63 Impala. The Studebaker went for $13000. I kinda kick myself that I didn't go after that.
Obviously the one with Packard engine and more attractive design is my preferred one - 1956. I learned about Studebaker in history class. Oddly enough that company built the most trucks in WWII to be send to URSS in lend-lease agreement as platform for multiple rocket missile launchers. The truck was Studebaker US6 (G360) 6x6 - 2 and a half ton truck.
Keep in mind that the Packard engine was too heavy for the Stude's chassis. The car had heavy understeer, very unsporty. The Studebaker-powered models are nicer to drive.
@@jamesbosworth4191 If the cars are factory they are not so fast according to today standards. So it's OK. I just like cleaner design. I might look sacrilegious to folks on this channel but I really like only design from 50ties. I do not dig too many chrome lines. If I had the chance to own a vehicle like that I would restomod with modern powertrain, modern AC, suspension, brakes, electric steering, I would beef up the rear and front axles but tastefully, not like for a dragster: on the first look everything should look period correct.
It takes skill to drive these cars that’s what’s great about them 0 to 60 seven seconds isn’t fast by today’s standards just about every car even muscle cars get beat by a brand new Honda Odyssey minivan.. cobra roadster is one that is an outlier.. as well as supercharged Avanti Pontiac, GTO.. there are others as well, but can’t compete with the new vehicles in terms of speed and drive ability, But driving a car from this area makes you part of the experience you can feel everything that is going on. New cars are very isolated and that regard
@@What.its.like. To me each classical vehicle should have a purpose. There are 4 choices: leave like it is but keep up to be drivable, factory restore for shows, tasteful restomod for daily driving looking period correct, crazy restomod for shows resembling hot rods. I prefer the third choice giving the car the most usability and purpose but saving the historical art sculpture moving on wheels. This model of Studebaker from 50ties is one of the best examples to make into daily driver provided some rust proof treatment of the body.
Read a book on Studebaker years ago. Turns out there were two schools of automotive thought on engines and fuel. One was to bet on octane increases, the other was to bet on cubic inches. Studebaker bet on octane increases, and stuck to small block V-8 engines. Turns out they had to go to supercharging. No idea how true that is, but octanes never went further than a bit over 100 for automobiles.
I am 91 - had a 53 coupe in 1954 - Loved it Loved it had a 64 and a lark 1972 - I am an Industrial designer Pratt Inst - Loved cars - Loved my Beautiful Wife - Those were the days - Cars were FUN Today? Boring
When I was about 5 my dad built his first HO model railroad layout. One of the details was a model of a Studebaker Golden Hawk. I've been in love with these ever since and for me this is the perfect color combination. I wonder if the supercharger gives it better low end torque than the Packard engine? Since the boost gauge only goes up to 5 psi I'm not sure. I'd choose the Packard Hawk over it but I'd choose the Golden Hawk in the other two scenarios. I'm looking forward to your live stream where you show us your Golden Hawk and '59 Rambler Cross Country wagon. Maybe after this video gets as many views as it should?
One day.. I’m not in a rush. lol I can’t afford one of these right now. Plus there’s other cars I would rather have that don’t cost as much… given the choice between the cross-country wagon and the Studebaker golden Hawk. That’s a really tough choice throw a Chrysler airflow in there that’s an even tougher choice… or Hupmoblie packard too many cool cars Funny, you should mention model railroading I used to have a HO layout at one point in time I think I had nine steam locomotives I don’t have any of it anymore but my favorite steam locomotive that I owned that I don’t have anymore was 2-6-0 camelback made by IHC It’s a weird looking engine, but I absolutely loved it…
The rear foot well was a compromise inherited from the 1953 Coupes. Studebaker frame was rather narrow so they couldn't recess the entire floor like I am sure sales and marketing wanted. Remember the 53 coupes were designed as a show car but management was convinced to make it a production car.One thing interesting is the Coupes body was several inches "WIDER" than the sedans!!!
I'm so happy you introduced me to these. I never paid them much mind since I believed they were tiny little things. You reviewd a '58, I think it wa and I was surprised, pleasantly by the size. Still not a fan of the '57-'58 fins, in the same aspect of not being a fan of Rambler fins of this era. But other than that, beautiful, beautiful car! WYR: 1) '56, for the aforementioned tailfin issue... 2) ohhh, i feel bad about this, but gotta go Mopar... You back from GA yet?
Sweet choices. I think you’re thinking of the 58 packer hawk. I haven’t come across the 58 Studebaker golden Hawk yet they’re pretty rare… Yeah I’m back from Georgia. I got really sick the last couple days in Georgia and I’ve just been dealing with it. I’m pretty sure it’s allergies but I’ve never had anything like this. I was super congested yesterday I went to Lancaster or Morgantown. I should say to go film, more cars I think I did Ten cars yesterday which was a light load I generally tried to do 15 to 20 but I couldn’t. I was so congested and I wasn’t like that when I left my house I got like that as the day went on… But This month is going to be a hectic month. I’m going somewhere every weekend to go fill more cars so I figured those would be good cars to have to separate things. I’m going to a collection this weekend. I’m not entirely sure what to expect I was invited to go… Next weekend I’m going to the Salem Ohio Concords I can’t wait and then the week after that is the Hudson nationals up in Erie that’s another one that I can’t wait for I have a friend who built a 54 Hudson hornet and we’re going to cover it.. =)
@@What.its.like. I spent two weeks in GA in 2016 for my Walking Dead tour (last two days Matthew slammed into Statesboro where I was staying for a few days)... I dunno what kind of plants they have there, but my Claritan wasn't doing crap! I was blowing lime jello out my nose and hawking up out of my lungs every 10 minutes... My allergies kick in a wee bit in the fall here due to leaves falling, but dayum... there!?!? Oy! Safe travels, my friend!
Crap! Now I have to clean the drool off my keyboard 😆 The 57 Golden Hawk is one of my top dream cars. Loewy was a superb designer who left no detail overlooked, and he designed many things other than cars too. This was a very aerodynamic car for it's time which allowed Studebaker Hawks to set and hold speed records in many classes at the Bonneville Salt Flats, some of which weren't broken for 20 years. They would do 125MPH+ right off the showroom floor at a time when very few cars could even hit 120 downhill. WYR is this car all around hands down, but the Rambler Rebel comes close being arguably America's first and most obscure 'muscle car'. Happy 4th y'all 😎
Happy 4th =) this is my favorite 50s car of all time. I really want to own one one day. I totally forgot to put in the episode. If anybody has one I will totally revisit this car. I would love to do video of it driving and get reaction of what people think because it’s a car that you don’t really see that often in the wild.
that kind of fine detail of the steering wheel contrasting paints is a strong point all across the interior. The fine line di-electric embossing of the vinyl along the C pillar forward to the windshield adds a sense of length and space. GM would use similar fine line detailing to make an illusion of size and substance. I think Loewy was on par with GM.
Awesome choices totally agree. Terrible terrible management… There was no reason for the golden hawk to die because they produced the silver hawk until 1961
My favorite Stude body style. Pre fin better than post IMHO 56 56 Golden Hawk and that last one, poor Packard did not deserve that.... 57 Chrysler 300 (Sorry Stude) 57 De Soto But really prefer the older Hawks from the pre-fin era. It really didn't need the fins, none of them really needed the fins.
I would have to say the 57 Golden Hawk for the first. As for the other two scenarios, I do like the Chrysler cars. OBTW...I'm still laughing about your "cheapo" comment on the clock. See, your episodes are not just informative, but entertaining as well.
You bet my voice has been pretty screwed up the last week. I actually lost my voice for four days and I was contemplating using AI just to be able to put out a video or two. I’ve had really bad allergies for the last two weeks. I’ve had everything you can think of except Pinkeye This is the second year without a winter therefore the pollen is unbelievably bad
I'm lucky to own a 57 GH and I must say this car is VERY fast for it's time. The car really does have too much power for the chassis and frame. After 75 miles an hour the car begins to float and skate. All Studebaker cars retained the bell crank & king pins to the end of production. The dash board is made of fiberglass so the glove box is small due to mold technology at the time. Definitely a head turner but most people don't know what it is.😆 The AMC cars powered by the AMC 327 are very very quick! Marketing missed the mark on that opportunity.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight. I greatly appreciate it. I really want to drive one one day I really wanna own one. I think they’re awesome cars. What color is yours? Curious where are you located? Kingpins get a bad wrap but they’re really not that bad .. I have kingpins in my two Chevy Truck and honestly it handles like a truck should.. I’ve also heard that about other fin cars like 59 Chevy if you got that up above 80 it started the back end would start the lift off the ground
@@kevincruz4045 i’m on the East Coast in Pennsylvania, but if I ever make a trip to California, I’ll definitely make it known on this channel =) I would love to go next year, but I don’t know if it’s in the cards
I remember a guy with a golden hawk. I have no idea what year it was. I was a kid, and my 18-year-old opinion wasn't kind. I was like, "That's not an Integra."
The 57 Golden Hawk was the most attractive car ever produced by Studabaker. It's to bad it was overshadowed by Chevy and Ford. The many intricate details you point out are amazing. Obviously it didn’t matter since in 57 the Packard V8 engine was no longer available, but I think I read that engine designed for the larger , heavier Packard was too heavy for the Studabaker. It made the car front heavy and negatively affected handling. WYR 1. 57 Studabaker Golden Hawk. The 58 Packard Hawk was an abomination, especially with that hideous front end stuck on the front end. Packard was already dead , but that car was the final nail in the coffin. Absolutely no effort to hide it was a uglyfied . Studabaker. 2 . 57 T Bird. 3 . 57 Golden Hawk
I want one so bad it’s my favorite 50s car the Studebaker golden hawk ( not wagon ) And honestly can’t wait one day. I will eventually have one and I wanna know what it would be like to drive on the street what the general consensus is when somebody sees that car for the very first time… in the wild Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight great choices
I did a jaguar a while back. Here’s the link ua-cam.com/video/q_ZjOl0_w4E/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared I didn’t do it go around, but if it’s there the next time I go, I will do it because the format has definitely changed since this video
the special run of Studebaker "400" Hawks might have a tie to Packard's Patrician 400. Packard dropped that name from the 1953 models, having used it in 51 & 52. Packard reintroduced the 400 in 1955 for the top line Clipper based 2 door hardtop, and used it again in 56. Maybe by 1956, with the merger, the use of the Packard V8, and maybe due to the Chrysler 300s from 55 on, the name 400 regained favor. What's better than a 300 but a 400!
I don’t have a problem with kingpins my 52 Chevy Truck has kingpins and Ibeam front axle with leafspring suspension it rides rough, but I don’t have an issue with it.. but then again I’m into different things lol
@@What.its.like. Speaking of, in 1979, Aston Martin introduced a new Lagonda. It was very mod, look it up if you aren't familiar. I've seen one in person, 40+ yrs ago. They were very expensive. And they used king pins. I couldn't believe it.
I love the 56 myself. The Packard is super rare, but butt ugly.
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A ridiculous breathless over-hyped presentation for a car which was an orphan even as it still sat on the showroom floors. I was in High School in 1957 and none of us would even acknowledge the existence of this abomination. It was massively rejected by a discriminating public, the passing decades have only validated that decision!
Jay- got a golden hawk story for you. My friend had one he was quite proud of. He went off to Vietnam Nam in the army, leaving strict orders that his little brother was NOT to drive it. Well, he did, and got into a fender bender. Well, their dad paid to have it fixed and painted. When my friend got home he was enjoying the Hawk and its new paint job. It took a couple of weeks to realize the passenger side fender vent had been bondoed over. Vent parts were not available.
Great story thank you’d so much for sharing that story
What did he do when he found out
@@What.its.like. traded it for a later one with the supercharger.
My dream car as a kid... we had a few getting around here in Australia in the 60s and 70s 😊
7:00 A three-speed manual with overdrive was not the same as a four-speed manual.
Overdrive could be engaged in any of the three forward gears at speed greater than about 27 mph. Average drivers would use overdrive in top gear only, but for performance you could satart in first, shift to second, let up pn the gas to engage second-over, then shift to third and then third-over. Flooring the throttle when overdrive was engaged kicked back down to direct drive, often called _PASSING GEAR_ and with the shorter axle ratios fitted to overdrive-equipped cars, it was a neck-snapper, especially when that McCulloch variable-ratio V57 supercharger spun up.
Thank you for explaining that
I’m sure glad you did one on Studebaker. One of my favorite cars and you just don’t hear much about anymore. They were a wonderful car back in the day sadly sadly missed.
I totally agree anytime I see one of these in the wild I totally lose it. This is my favorite 50s car I really really want one and I’m to the point that I don’t even care if it’s a silver hawk just have a hawk would be really cool and I would drive it every day… 51 Hudson hornet is also a really good contender. I think those are drastically underrated, but it’s a totally different class of cars I guess not really nothing sounds like it.
I agree, this was one of the best cars of the ‘50s. I remember sitting in one of these at a classic car show and the sense of quality and style was unmatched. One of my all time favourite classic cars.
Totally agree one could sit anywhere on this car and it not hurt it.. same can’t be said about modern cars.
Jay Thanks again. Studies were a breed of their own. My uncle let me drive his Lark sitting on his lap. I was born to drive.
I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE SHOWING A STUD. MY FIRST CAR WAS A STUDEBAKER SILVER HAWK, I WAS 15 YEARS OLD MY OLDER BROTHER "BILL" TAUGHT ME HOW TO DRIVE. IT WAS A GREAT CAR.
Is the song hard days night by the beetles or do you still love me tomorrow Sherells.
Great guess not that song or band
By far, the best looking Studebaker ever made. 👍 Thanks for posting this.
Loved those Studebakers
Jay, you're correct. These cars just scream 50s style. They're truly rolling pieces of artwork we may never see again.
I love this car The best thing about it was everything was quality when you touched it it didn’t feel like it was gonna fall apart.
These are a beautiful car, with its styling puffing its chest out where ever you look. They always give me a sense of cheerfulness. A brand I definitely miss very much.
Totally agree
Hi Jay! All I can say is WOW! PRIME Golden Hawk, PRIME color scheme, PRIME condition! I am with you that the 1957 Golden Hawk is one of the most beautiful of the 1950's cars. Would like to drive one someday. WYR's are the easiest so far! 1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk for ALL THREE!
Awesome choices
I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a huge fan of this car in gold. This car looks great in every color gold eh
I saw a teal one once it was epic but my favorite color combination is black and white for this car. I also love the red and white just about every other color but gold and white not to say that it’s bad it’s just I think it’s a bit over the top.
Absolutely stunning car, and this one is exceptional. WYR: 1957 Golden Hawk, 1957 Hawk again, although the 300 is a close second. In the last choice - 1957 Hawk.....I love styling/performance balance. Thank you as always - well done ~ Chuck
Nothing says America like a 57 golden hawk
This is my favorite 50s car I really want to drive what I’ve been putting this off because I’ve been trying to find somebody that has one but I haven’t found anyone so I figured I’ll do this and then if I ever find anybody that owns the car I will definitely revisit this car =)
Sweet choices happy you dig this episode
A beautiful automobile. I learned to drive in one of these fined Golden Hawks. My mother's boyfriend a car salesman owned it. It had a metal plate attached to the swirled dash having a production number with a name and city of the Texan it was originally built for. Stick shift and if you were not careful it would smoke the tires and leave "burn out" marks on the street.
0:06 "...redesigned by Robert Byork..."?
Never heard of him.
Studebaker's Starlight and Starliner coupes introduced in January of 1953 were designed by an employee of _Raymond Loewy Associates,_ a talented gentleman named Robert Bourke...
Im very congested I apologize if I didn’t pronounce his name right but that’s the same guy we’re talking about..
@@What.its.like. Congested?
Home remedy: strong hot tea with the juice of a whole lime in the cup and a diabetic-unfriendly amount of honey to sweeten.
I don't think the FDA has done a study, but it makes me feel better.
Vapors from the hot liquid are said to be good for the swollen membranes, honey sooths the throat, tannins from the tea are a bit astringent, and the lime gives a bright kick.
Sort of a hot lime-aid.
Again, feel better!
WYR1: All three have their charms. The '56 Packard 352 could take a dual-four-barrel carb set-up and acould be had with an Isky cam (I knew a little old lady whose husband had bought a Golden Hawk and had it fitted with the bigger Packard 374 engine and dual quads, and three-on-the-tree overdrive, a real brute, but he died the evening after he took delivery in the afternoon, Mrs. W. had never learned to drive before the car passed to her. It had less than 20,000 miles on it in 1976. I worked for the service station that serviced the car for her, and on a couple of occasions I drove it to her house after we had serviced it.
The supercharged '57 model didn't have the standard torque of the Packard V8, buy it had just about the best power-to-weight ratio of any five-passenger car on the road. The available _Flight-O-Matic_ transmission in the '57-'58 models (including the Packard Hawk) was a three-speed as opposed to the two-speed Twin Ultramatic offered in the '56 Golden Hawk (the .56 non-Packard powered Flight Hawk 185 cid six, Power Hawk 259 V8, and Sky Hawk, and in all steel-body Studebakers from 1955 through the end of production in 1966) was considered to be more reliable.
Only 588 exampled of the Packard Hawk were built, mechanically identical to the '57-'58 Golden Hawk 400 with the 400's trim upgrades and the :spare wheel' stamping on the rear deck certainly fot attention, but noy many buyers due to the "controversial" (read "hideous") grille. And note the vinul arm rest on the outside of the Packard's doors.
I'd take any of them provided I could get one with manual overdrive and available factory air conditioning.
WYR2: The elephants in the room here are the absence of the 275 horsepower 327 cubic inch Rambler Rebel, a car that struck fear in the hearts of Chrysler 300 drivers, and the DeSoto Adventurer, the first American car to provide one horsepower per cubic inch as standard equipment.
Sorry, bow-tie buffs. The 283 horse fuelie engine was a mid-year introduction and the top engine option, not standard equipment.
That said, I would take the Studebaker, again with overdrive with the Rambler a close second, boosted by its best-in-the industry air conditioning but with the disadvantage of a torque-tube type drive shaft. I like the looks of the Adventurer over the 300, and the TBird is only for people with no kids, no pets.
WYR3 Okay, any of the three.
The Hawk would, again be my first choice, the Rebel is the ultimate sleeper, as a second, and while the Adventurer was the best-looking of the upper-priced Chrysler products, Chrysler Corporation's entire 1957 line-up had serious quality deficiencies, more bugs than a tandem-axle dump truck load of bat droppings.
Those 57s so badly damaged Chrysler's reputation that they never recovered, not even today.
No need for an introduction Jay, The '57 Golden Hawk has been my dream car for 68 years (introduced September of '56 (4 months after me)). It is absolutely beautiful. If I had a collector's budget there would be one (at least one) in my garage (if I also had a garage). To be fair, I did own a Dinky Toy die-cast Golden Hawk, which would probably be worth today what a real V6 Silver Hawk was in '57 had I not destroyed it via childhood.
I've been waiting for you to feature this one...not sure how I missed it for a month.
Of your summary options:
Lordy that Packard Hawk has a grotesque snout. Looks like a chimpanzee mated with a sea-bass. Ugliest modification ever done to a production vehicle for no reason other than branding. I think they were going for "sporty" and failed in the worst way possible.
As for the Studebakers, the '56 Hawk's fins always looked to me like they were added as a last minute design change (like the car was never intended to have fins), whereas they are perfectly incorporated into the body lines of the '57. I prefer the two-tone horizontal splitting of the '56"s profile. It makes the car look lower and sleeker, while the '57's fin-sculp second tone provides a feeling of motion when stationary.
A "57 Golden Hawk for me, please and thank you. In gold with beige fin sculp - I prefer a milder contrast. (I've also seen the second tone applied to the washboard on the trunk, which I also like).
Great video as always there brother.
I'm so happy you got to see this one. It's hard to keep up. I post a lot... so it's possible that they slipped in between the cracks. This is my favorite 50s car I want to own one so bad I like just about every color combination except the gold the gold not bad but I would rather have a black-and-white one personally. Or teal and white that's a great color combo
Thank you so much for digging this channel. It really means a lot to me.
As you say, the 1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk is the best example of 1950’s car design and you’ve done an amazing job of capturing its design excellence in this video!... The texturized effect on the deck lid does it for me!!...BTW - Awesome idea to include the extra video at the end as you’ve been doing for a while now!!!
Happy you dig this episode =)
I figured just adding all the b roll because it’s all good and should be seen.. I might release some other cars that I still have b roll for as just bonus material every cars since doing this has that b roll you guys just didn’t get to see all of it. But happy you like that part I need to add music to it some how
In scenario 1) I would take the Hawk. In scenario 2) I would take the Thunderbird. In scenario 3) I would take the Rambler.
Jay, you never know the impact you will have on other people when you pursue your passion, but you will have an impact. I remember the first video I watched on your channel was of a pink 1956 Hudson Rambler Cross Country. I had just baked a pizza and sat down at my kitchen counter to watch. I never guessed that I would eventually binge watch your videos or schedule my weekly viewing around your releases … nor could I have guessed that you would reignite my interest in the AMC family of cars. I’m a dyed in the wool FoMoCo man. I’ve always appreciated AMCs, Nashes, Ramblers and Hudsons, but I never get to see them.
Last year you did a video on the 1955 Hudson Rambler Cross Country and something clicked. I fell in love with that car. For years I’ve just overlooked it in car books, never even considering learning about it. But that video of yours really sparked something in me. Since then, I’ve been devouring anything I can find on Ramblers and their kindred cars. You really gave me a new hobby that I’m enjoying so much.
In a few weeks I’m going to drive for two days to get to Colorado Springs to visit the Rambler Ranch. I don’t know if you’re familiar with it, but you would love it. I’ve had a rough year this year, and I’m so excited for this trip. About the only thing that would make my trip better would be to meet you there.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for inspiring me with a new love for Ramblers and giving me a new hobby. I really enjoy your channel!!!
Thank you so so much. This was always the goal was to get more people involved in the orphan cars. There are so many more cars out there than Mustang Corvette, Thunderbird Camaro… did a lot of ways. I don’t think a lot of people know that these cars even exist.
Thank you so much for the positive vibes. I’m happy that you’re still digging the channel after years you’ve been with us since pretty much it’s inception and I admit, even in the early days I wasn’t entirely sure which direction this was going to go I knew that I really wanted to do Classic Cars/vintage cars I just wasn’t 100% sure how to go about doing it and now that I have a formula and a format that works. I can’t wait to see where it goes.
I absolutely love the orphan cars. They are my favorite cars to cover because maybe I can bring the light different cars that need to be remembered.
Another thing I find very interesting is the big three they wasn’t as innovative as the independence but just like it a risk game they just sat back they let the independence do all of the innovation and run out of money, and then they just came in and took everything..
Yeah, now that there isn’t any independents left, you could see the big three have struggled and reset decades
I have never been to the Rambler Ranch. I’ve heard about it but I’ve never been there. I’ve never been to Colorado if you ever want to meet up sometime we can make it happen. What state are you from? I’m in Pennsylvania.
@@What.its.like. exactly. Nash and Hudson (and Studebaker and Packard) were so innovative. Their cars are always so interesting!! Keep doing what you’re doing!
Look at that Trans Am dash.
Trans am copied lol
Glad you found another Golden hawk. Watched the 56 video first then this one.
First pick 57 Golden Hawk, or Packard Hawk second 56 President Speedster lime green and yellow, fastest pick 57 Rebel hardtop.
My uncle had a 57 Studebaker that was Pink, White, and Gray on the exterior and had leopard design
seat material. He was a big 'Dutch man' and felt like a rock star in that car.
Hahaha I bet =)
When Studebaker decided to join the V8 club, they overbuilt it. In other words, it could take whatever you'd want to add to it. The other cars got the 259 V8, not 159. The engine would eventually grow to 304 c.i. and sport 2 McCulloch super chargers. I heard that Andy Granatelli owned atleast part of McCulloch and talked Studebaker into using it. He was responsible for setting some land speed records with Studebaker's Avanti at Bonneville.
As for the engine in this car, it was a supercharged 289 V8 but only had a 2-barrel carburetor. It was not the same as the famed R-2, which used a 4-barrel carb.
I think that anybody who chose anything but the Chrysler C300C would be crazy. That 392 Hemi V8 was pumping out more horsepower than Studebaker could ever dream of. The '57 Chrysler was the quintessential design to represent the late-50's.
The Golden Hawk is cool, but, a-h-h-h-h, it's not a Chrysler 300.
Totally agree this is one of the most incredible auto designs ever. This is a real stunner, every exquisite detail of it!🤩 All the WYR's look awesome, a dream trio for me would be either of the Stud Hawks, the 300 from the second, and the Adventurer, even though the Rebel would be hard to pass up, I'd probably have to really think about that one. Cool video 😎
Frank Zappa wrote a song in reference to the Studebaker Hawk. I really like the fact that they used a supercharger, and not a turbo. They result in improved power delivery at all engine speeds, and have no lag. I watched a Ute-Ube on a fellow, who had fully restored 2 of the Golden Hawks, and they were amazing to see. Exactly like factory fresh units.
A supercharger is much better for gasoline automotive engines. Turbos are better for diesels and aviation engines.
The Hawk was easily one of the most beautiful cars ever made.
I concur =)
I like the '53-'54 Starlight-Starliners, the '56 Hawks were pretty good, but the '57-'61 tail fins copied from the Rambler Palm Beach show car, that is "an acquired taste."
My favorite Hawks are the Gran Turismo models from'62-'64, the '64 being the best of the bunch due to the new stamping for the deck lid exterior panel.
I would love to cover that car I love that concept car. I know they made a couple of them one came up for sale a little while back. I think they made four but I’m not entirely sure.
6:36 You might want to read the text card for the bore and stroke figures, and there is something incorrect with the torque spec quoted as well.
A 4-inch bore and 3.5 inch stroke works out to 351.9 cubic inches, the Packard 352 dimensions.
The 380 pound-feet torque figure is also for the '56 Packard powered car.The supercharged Studebaker 289 matched the Packard's 275 horsepower, but the advertised gross torque figure was 333 pound-feet.
I have edited this comment after reading your response.
I hope you feel better soon and look forward to the Henry J review you mentioned.
The Henry J WYR choices I hope you will consider inclusion of the often-overlooked Willys Aero compact.
The figures that I found when I was reading was wrong they I absolutely hate it when people round specifications and I wasn’t going back and fixing it.. so I fixed on the slide
What a coincidence! Today I saw a 62-63 Hawk with the Brooks Stevens restyled C pillars. It was just waiting at a stoplight as I went by in the opposite direction. I like the styling better than this Golden Hawk, but both are really stunning cars. Studebaker's problem was always no money. Even the last 66 Canadian Studes still had the 53 frame underneath, and they still used kingpins instead of ball joints. Stude couldn't afford much more than minor styling changes. I remember as a kid, seeing Studes with "TT" on the back panel, and it took years before I found out that it meant "Twin Traction". I loved the sound of their V8 engines! WYR= All of them, but not the 58 Packard- just too ugly. Fun fact: The Mercedes-like grille was a tribute to Studebaker being the sales outlet for Mercedes-Benz at the time. All in all, the 53 Starlight coupe was by far the best looking of them all. Glad your voice is better, but it still sounds a bit gravelly.
If you like the looks of the 53 - 55 better, go for the 54 or 55. The 53's frame was too light and flexible, and it had lousy brakes - too small, unless car was a 6 cyl
jay the studes are beautiful and would have been an easy would you rather winner but you had to put up that chrysler 300 and the desoto ,, now I cant decide, I want them all
Hahaha I know right
My first car was a 1957 Golden Hawk when I got my driver's license in 1966. White with gold trim. Sold it a year later and bought a 1961 MGA - fun car to drive. Gave that MGA to my brother and bought a 1967 Chevelle SS 396 - 350 HP - 4 speed in 1968 used - very FAST car - Best ET in the 1/4 mile was 12.56 @ 108.xx MPH @ Englishtown Raceway Park NJ. Sold it when I got married in 1971. I cried when I sold it!
Great overview- thank you Jay
Thank you I’m happy you dig this one truthfully told this is my favorite 50s car I really want one.. I would even settle for a silver hawk stellar cars
I would have liked to be Alive in 1957, the cars and outlook were awesome!!! Great episode, I do like the Packard motor version best, though.
I turned 10 in 1957, cars were just becoming cool at that time.
What gorgeous 50s ride
Totally agree
Excellent video, anyway I just wanted to let you know that I’m going to be making a fan episode on my spare channel and basically it’s a what if scenario what if the VR4 engine became popular and that scenario is addressed by Disney in 1961 recording will begin soon.
Gorgeous car from every angle. I want to mention that it's also a forerunner of sorts in concept and size to the 2 + 2 cars sporty that would come years later, like Mustang and Camaro.
Very nice. Thank you.
My favorite 50's car as well. Probably faster than a 57 Corvette.
One day I would love to get all the fastest cars of the 50s and 57 and run them. It would be something that I would love to collaborate with a big auto insurance provider on… if they would let me be apart of it
@@What.its.like. there are people racing Studebakers today, here is a good link 12 sec lark raced by an 80 yr old kicking but and taking names ua-cam.com/video/-WmF-w6-EkQ/v-deo.html and yes it's stock
Depends on which engine the Vette has
The styling is gorgeous. I've never seen on in the wild. I've read that the engine/supercharger had some reliability issues. Did you run across any info on reliability/durability of this powerplant?
When you see this car in the wild it’s like seeing a spaceship I would love to own this car and see what the reaction is
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the donation. I really appreciate that.. =)
@@What.its.like. - my pleasure!!
When I was 15 my older brother owned a Golden Hawk exactly like this car, I took my drivers test in my brothers Golden Hawk Pa at the State Police driver center in Wyoming Pa.
My brother is still sorry he sold his beloved G Hawk, even though I went on to own more Hawks including a 56 GH I never came across another Tiera Gold Arctic White 57 Hawk.
I wish I knew the serial number of his Hawk, this one is not far from where we live I may have to go see it in person.
Awesome thank you for sharing those memories =) cool story
For WYR, for the first scenario it’s both the ‘56 and ‘57 Golden, Hawk, for the second it’s the Golden Hawk and the Thunderbird, the third the Golden Hawk.
But what can I add? Nothing…it’s a great car to look at. It reminds me of my dad’s ‘62 Gran Turismo. I still remember the aroma of the interior 58 years later. I wish he kept the car.
The 1957 Chrysler 300 was a beast! With a 392 Hemi, and two four barrel carbs. I can't hardly believe the Rambler Rebel could beat that! I would take the 1956 Studebaker hawk with the Packard engine, and the Chrysler 300 with the Hemi!
I want to one day find somebody that has a 57 Rambler rebel that would love to drive it and put it up against the cars that it was faster than.. and settle wasn’t for all. Was it really as fast as legend suggests
That is a car that I’ve been looking for very hard to find I know of a few collections that have that car in it. I just haven’t been able to get a hold of the person in charge of the collections. ..
I found a Kaiser Henry J fingers crossed. I’m hoping that he’ll let us do it. I was supposed to contact him whenever I got home but I’ve had these really bad allergies. I don’t know if it’s allergies or if it’s a sickness and don’t if I’m contagious, I don’t wanna go around anybody. .. but I’m pretty sure it’s allergies cause cold medicine. Does it do anything to help
@@What.its.like. 1957 was the first year for Ramblers 327. They ran pretty strong but unless you had a T-85 BW three speed, the auto transmission in AMC those years were junk! They had a two piece torque converter that always leaked, and an enclosed drive shaft to the rear end Don't ask me how I know! Chrysler had the legendary 392 Hemi and a three speed torque flight, they worked very well, and we're as tough as a cheap steak!
Hahaha tough as a cheap steak I might have to use that
That 300 was a force to be reckoned with as well as the adventurer there was a lot of really fast cars that come out to 57 that would blow the doors off the Corvette, which I stand by my opinion are overrated .. I love the orphan cars, the cars that never got the time of day
@@What.its.like. Yes the DeSoto Adventurer had a 345 Hemi, it also had two four barrel carbs, and a torque flight transmission.
I'd take the '56 Hawk. I drove a dealer-hot-rodded one with very low miles on a couple of occasins in the mid-seventies and WOW!.
Just stay clear of the optional Packard-supplied Twin Ultramatic transmission. It was well-designed, but poorly executed. The Golden Hawks as well as the Packard Hawk and the Rebel were available with three-on-the-tree with overdrive, said transmission being capable of withstanding all the torque a dual-quad Packard 374 could muster with a hot cam.
Fun fact, Prior to joining Studebaker, Sherwood Egbert (Studebaker President) was the CEO of McCulloch Motors Corporation which was part of the Paxton\McCulloch conglomerate that provided the Supercharge system to the Studebaker Golden Hawk and the Studebaker GT Hawk.
My favorite Golden Hawk is the 56' with the smallest tailfins.
Thank you so much for sharing that trivia, missing link
I knew there was link between McCulloch and studebaker
Very cool car 57 - Tbird - Studebaker.
5:12 I had an '89 Maserati Spyder all through the 1990s. Baby blue with navy top.
One of the nicest car ever. Totally dig it.
I'm not into convertibles and definitely do not care about motorcycles.
The only open air vehicle I like to ride is the bicycle.
I love these it's my favorite 50s car =)
Enjoyed!!!
I'm going to pick the '57 Golden Hawk for all 3 scenarios. About 10 years ago, my brother and I went to Mecum Indy and there was a '57 Silver Hawk (with a blueprinted 327 Chevy small block) right before a '63 Impala Super Sport with a 327/ 4-speed. He flipped a coin and decided to bid on (and bought) the '63 Impala. The Studebaker went for $13000. I kinda kick myself that I didn't go after that.
Sweet choices. Thank you so much for sharing that story about mecum $13,000 for a Silverhawk I’d be kicking myself too..
Obviously the one with Packard engine and more attractive design is my preferred one - 1956. I learned about Studebaker in history class. Oddly enough that company built the most trucks in WWII to be send to URSS in lend-lease agreement as platform for multiple rocket missile launchers. The truck was Studebaker US6 (G360) 6x6 - 2 and a half ton truck.
Cool choice
Keep in mind that the Packard engine was too heavy for the Stude's chassis. The car had heavy understeer, very unsporty. The Studebaker-powered models are nicer to drive.
@@jamesbosworth4191 If the cars are factory they are not so fast according to today standards. So it's OK. I just like cleaner design. I might look sacrilegious to folks on this channel but I really like only design from 50ties. I do not dig too many chrome lines. If I had the chance to own a vehicle like that I would restomod with modern powertrain, modern AC, suspension, brakes, electric steering, I would beef up the rear and front axles but tastefully, not like for a dragster: on the first look everything should look period correct.
It takes skill to drive these cars that’s what’s great about them 0 to 60 seven seconds isn’t fast by today’s standards just about every car even muscle cars get beat by a brand new Honda Odyssey minivan.. cobra roadster is one that is an outlier.. as well as supercharged Avanti Pontiac, GTO.. there are others as well, but can’t compete with the new vehicles in terms of speed and drive ability, But driving a car from this area makes you part of the experience you can feel everything that is going on. New cars are very isolated and that regard
@@What.its.like. To me each classical vehicle should have a purpose. There are 4 choices: leave like it is but keep up to be drivable, factory restore for shows, tasteful restomod for daily driving looking period correct, crazy restomod for shows resembling hot rods. I prefer the third choice giving the car the most usability and purpose but saving the historical art sculpture moving on wheels. This model of Studebaker from 50ties is one of the best examples to make into daily driver provided some rust proof treatment of the body.
Read a book on Studebaker years ago.
Turns out there were two schools of automotive thought on engines and fuel.
One was to bet on octane increases, the other was to bet on cubic inches.
Studebaker bet on octane increases, and stuck to small block V-8 engines.
Turns out they had to go to supercharging.
No idea how true that is, but octanes never went further than a bit over 100 for automobiles.
I am 91 - had a 53 coupe in 1954 - Loved it Loved it had a 64 and a lark 1972 - I am an Industrial designer Pratt Inst - Loved cars - Loved my Beautiful Wife - Those were the days - Cars were FUN Today? Boring
Totally agree
When I was about 5 my dad built his first HO model railroad layout. One of the details was a model of a Studebaker Golden Hawk. I've been in love with these ever since and for me this is the perfect color combination. I wonder if the supercharger gives it better low end torque than the Packard engine? Since the boost gauge only goes up to 5 psi I'm not sure. I'd choose the Packard Hawk over it but I'd choose the Golden Hawk in the other two scenarios. I'm looking forward to your live stream where you show us your Golden Hawk and '59 Rambler Cross Country wagon. Maybe after this video gets as many views as it should?
One day.. I’m not in a rush. lol I can’t afford one of these right now. Plus there’s other cars I would rather have that don’t cost as much… given the choice between the cross-country wagon and the Studebaker golden Hawk. That’s a really tough choice throw a Chrysler airflow in there that’s an even tougher choice… or Hupmoblie packard too many cool cars
Funny, you should mention model railroading I used to have a HO layout at one point in time I think I had nine steam locomotives I don’t have any of it anymore but my favorite steam locomotive that I owned that I don’t have anymore was 2-6-0 camelback made by IHC It’s a weird looking engine, but I absolutely loved it…
😲 Nice!
The Packard Hawk looked sportier than the Studebaker Hawk. The DeSoto Adventurer
The rear foot well was a compromise inherited from the 1953 Coupes. Studebaker frame was rather narrow so they couldn't recess the entire floor like I am sure sales and marketing wanted. Remember the 53 coupes were designed as a show car but management was convinced to make it a production car.One thing interesting is the Coupes body was several inches "WIDER" than the sedans!!!
Great information
The Hawk was one of the nicest looking cars in the 50's. My cars of choice would be the Packard and Studebaker.
Sweet choices =)
I'm so happy you introduced me to these. I never paid them much mind since I believed they were tiny little things. You reviewd a '58, I think it wa and I was surprised, pleasantly by the size. Still not a fan of the '57-'58 fins, in the same aspect of not being a fan of Rambler fins of this era. But other than that, beautiful, beautiful car! WYR: 1) '56, for the aforementioned tailfin issue... 2) ohhh, i feel bad about this, but gotta go Mopar... You back from GA yet?
Sweet choices. I think you’re thinking of the 58 packer hawk. I haven’t come across the 58 Studebaker golden Hawk yet they’re pretty rare…
Yeah I’m back from Georgia. I got really sick the last couple days in Georgia and I’ve just been dealing with it. I’m pretty sure it’s allergies but I’ve never had anything like this. I was super congested yesterday I went to Lancaster or Morgantown. I should say to go film, more cars I think I did Ten cars yesterday which was a light load I generally tried to do 15 to 20 but I couldn’t. I was so congested and I wasn’t like that when I left my house I got like that as the day went on…
But This month is going to be a hectic month. I’m going somewhere every weekend to go fill more cars so I figured those would be good cars to have to separate things. I’m going to a collection this weekend. I’m not entirely sure what to expect I was invited to go…
Next weekend I’m going to the Salem Ohio Concords I can’t wait and then the week after that is the Hudson nationals up in Erie that’s another one that I can’t wait for I have a friend who built a 54 Hudson hornet and we’re going to cover it.. =)
@@What.its.like. I spent two weeks in GA in 2016 for my Walking Dead tour (last two days Matthew slammed into Statesboro where I was staying for a few days)... I dunno what kind of plants they have there, but my Claritan wasn't doing crap! I was blowing lime jello out my nose and hawking up out of my lungs every 10 minutes... My allergies kick in a wee bit in the fall here due to leaves falling, but dayum... there!?!? Oy! Safe travels, my friend!
Crap! Now I have to clean the drool off my keyboard 😆 The 57 Golden Hawk is one of my top dream cars. Loewy was a superb designer who left no detail overlooked, and he designed many things other than cars too. This was a very aerodynamic car for it's time which allowed Studebaker Hawks to set and hold speed records in many classes at the Bonneville Salt Flats, some of which weren't broken for 20 years. They would do 125MPH+ right off the showroom floor at a time when very few cars could even hit 120 downhill.
WYR is this car all around hands down, but the Rambler Rebel comes close being arguably America's first and most obscure 'muscle car'. Happy 4th y'all 😎
Happy 4th =) this is my favorite 50s car of all time. I really want to own one one day.
I totally forgot to put in the episode. If anybody has one I will totally revisit this car. I would love to do video of it driving and get reaction of what people think because it’s a car that you don’t really see that often in the wild.
Golden Hawk. Two words, both with an upper case first letter.
that kind of fine detail of the steering wheel contrasting paints is a strong point all across the interior. The fine line di-electric embossing of the vinyl along the C pillar forward to the windshield adds a sense of length and space. GM would use similar fine line detailing to make an illusion of size and substance. I think Loewy was on par with GM.
1957 TBird
Rebel
Sweet choices
It's a Shame that Studebaker Isn't Around, I ❤ the 59,and 60 Lark 😅😊 4 Door
Looks like those footwell vents are a different shade of metallic gold.
Nice 😊
DeSoto ☝️😊
Any Studebaker
Great Auto 🤔 Bad Management 😔 🤦 Enjoy your 4th Happy Motoring ✌️🤠
Awesome choices totally agree. Terrible terrible management… There was no reason for the golden hawk to die because they produced the silver hawk until 1961
The 62 - 64 GT Hawk was the 60s version of the Golden Hawk - supercharged 289 was still available.
57 Desoto
I would take the middle row going up and down of course
My favorite Stude body style. Pre fin better than post IMHO
56
56 Golden Hawk and that last one, poor Packard did not deserve that....
57 Chrysler 300 (Sorry Stude)
57 De Soto
But really prefer the older Hawks from the pre-fin era. It really didn't need the fins, none of them really needed the fins.
Seeet choices
I would have to say the 57 Golden Hawk for the first. As for the other two scenarios, I do like the Chrysler cars. OBTW...I'm still laughing about your "cheapo" comment on the clock. See, your episodes are not just informative, but entertaining as well.
Hahaha happy you dig this episode =) sweet choices
I say this was the first muscle car. They just did not have that term in the marketplace
Jay thanks for staying. Human no AI Jay.
You bet my voice has been pretty screwed up the last week. I actually lost my voice for four days and I was contemplating using AI just to be able to put out a video or two.
I’ve had really bad allergies for the last two weeks. I’ve had everything you can think of except Pinkeye This is the second year without a winter therefore the pollen is unbelievably bad
They were Stylish
I concur
Is the seat in its most rearward position?
I don’t know I didn’t mess with the seat
Hint? The 58 does not have "wheel covers" They are wire wheels, most likely Kelsey Hayes.
WYR 1: 56 WYR 2: Stude. WYR 3: Stude.
Yes
Sweet choices
All but the Packard and Rambler.
Doesn't she sound cute?!
Brilliant design seems it should have been as successful as the Mustang.
I'm lucky to own a 57 GH and I must say this car is VERY fast for it's time. The car really does have too much power for the chassis and frame. After 75 miles an hour the car begins to float and skate. All Studebaker cars retained the bell crank & king pins to the end of production. The dash board is made of fiberglass so the glove box is small due to mold technology at the time. Definitely a head turner but most people don't know what it is.😆 The AMC cars powered by the AMC 327 are very very quick! Marketing missed the mark on that opportunity.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight. I greatly appreciate it. I really want to drive one one day I really wanna own one. I think they’re awesome cars. What color is yours? Curious where are you located?
Kingpins get a bad wrap but they’re really not that bad .. I have kingpins in my two Chevy Truck and honestly it handles like a truck should..
I’ve also heard that about other fin cars like 59 Chevy if you got that up above 80 it started the back end would start the lift off the ground
I'm in Corona Ca. Yes you can drive the car! Your more than qualified!
@@kevincruz4045 i’m on the East Coast in Pennsylvania, but if I ever make a trip to California, I’ll definitely make it known on this channel =) I would love to go next year, but I don’t know if it’s in the cards
Exelente 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I remember a guy with a golden hawk. I have no idea what year it was. I was a kid, and my 18-year-old opinion wasn't kind. I was like, "That's not an Integra."
There’s no comparison between this and an Integra
I have a 1/18 scale '58 Golden Hawk die cast that's the same color
'57 Golden Hawk, '57 Chrysler 300, '57 Golden Hawk
Awesome choices
The 57 Golden Hawk was the most attractive car ever produced by Studabaker. It's to bad it was overshadowed by Chevy and Ford. The many intricate details you point out are amazing.
Obviously it didn’t matter since in 57 the Packard V8 engine was no longer available, but I think I read that engine designed for the larger , heavier Packard was too heavy for the Studabaker. It made the car front heavy and negatively affected handling.
WYR 1. 57 Studabaker Golden Hawk. The 58 Packard Hawk was an abomination, especially with that hideous front end stuck on the front end. Packard was already dead , but that car was the final nail in the coffin. Absolutely no effort to hide it was a uglyfied . Studabaker.
2 . 57 T Bird.
3 . 57 Golden Hawk
I want one so bad it’s my favorite 50s car the Studebaker golden hawk ( not wagon ) And honestly can’t wait one day. I will eventually have one and I wanna know what it would be like to drive on the street what the general consensus is when somebody sees that car for the very first time… in the wild
Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight great choices
WYR: All of them.
Awesome
Isn’t the steering wheel on upside down???
Yeah I don’t know why so people prefer it that way maybe they like the horn ring on top idk
ALWAYS 5 STARS 😃😃
Can you review that Jaguar?
I did a jaguar a while back. Here’s the link
ua-cam.com/video/q_ZjOl0_w4E/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
I didn’t do it go around, but if it’s there the next time I go, I will do it because the format has definitely changed since this video
Those vents are called louvers.
the special run of Studebaker "400" Hawks might have a tie to Packard's Patrician 400. Packard dropped that name from the 1953 models, having used it in 51 & 52. Packard reintroduced the 400 in 1955 for the top line Clipper based 2 door hardtop, and used it again in 56. Maybe by 1956, with the merger, the use of the Packard V8, and maybe due to the Chrysler 300s from 55 on, the name 400 regained favor. What's better than a 300 but a 400!
Interesting points =)
🇬🇧 British call it the
Great Escape Day 🗽🇺🇸🤘🤪👋👋
=)
Grew up with DeSotos.
Hate to double-comment but I still think it looks like a dolled-up Valiant lol
I see no resemblance plus this came up before the valiant.. and the value was made by Plymouth.. and came out in 1959
WYR = The '57 Hawk³
Sweet choice
on question 1 #1,2 on question 2 #1, on question 3 any of them would fine to have.
Great choices
57 Hawk 57Packard
Sweet choices
56 looks best
Packard ,T bird
Chrysler --Desoto .
Awesome choices
thats how I see the world. I got a thing for ball joints and Stude's king pins is just not smooth enough , I need more... I need TorsionAire.
I don’t have a problem with kingpins my 52 Chevy Truck has kingpins and Ibeam front axle with leafspring suspension it rides rough, but I don’t have an issue with it.. but then again I’m into different things lol
@@What.its.like. Speaking of, in 1979, Aston Martin introduced a new Lagonda. It was very mod, look it up if you aren't familiar. I've seen one in person, 40+ yrs ago. They were very expensive. And they used king pins. I couldn't believe it.
I love the 56 myself. The Packard is super rare, but butt ugly.
A ridiculous breathless over-hyped presentation for a car which was an orphan even as it still sat on the showroom floors. I was in High School in 1957 and none of us would even acknowledge the existence of this abomination. It was massively rejected by a discriminating public, the passing decades have only validated that decision!
Over hyped hardly.. this was the 2nd fastest car in the 50s corvettes are over hyped
Packard only Studebaker engine with hydraulic valve lifters 😀😀
Talking heads --Once in a lifetime ?
That would’ve been the perfect song to use but no, it’s not that song or band