I think the issue is not that political parties emerged, but rather than key figures were so against them that they didn't account for how they would eventually emerge and then shape our politics. Parties are a logical way for voters to contribute to the course setting in a nation without each of them having to become hobbyist political theorists, the easy association of direction each party offers is extremely useful for the average person. It seems to me that regulating how parties operate is more realistic than wishing no parties existed.
@@tylerreed2409 Becomming a "hobbyist political theorists" worked when only landowners were allowed to vote. But then we had such radical leftist ideas like "voting rights for all men".
@@-i1007 Incorrect. If people want to vote for a third party, the presence of the third party in politics is the result of that voice being represented in government. Limiting the system to one choice or the other limits people in terms of what they're allowed to express by voting. A two-party system essentially constrains voters to either one polar opinion or the other, and having more representatives from different parties with different beliefs in every election would make that much, much less of an issue.
@@PresidentJeanAuguste yes because we love shutting on one of the best countries even though we have no knowledge of it and never try to hear about the good stuff in it only the bad stuff
This is actually not how politics were for most of the US history. Historically the 2 parties fought for the middle of the country, and it actually had a more moderating effect on politics. Compare that to multi-party systems which can make smaller more ideologically fringe parties in a position of power in their coalitions. So it's not the system, but it's other cultural and social changes in the last 30-40 years that have led to increased polarization. And no, it's not the "Republicans" fault. Both parties are responsible, it takes 2 to tango.
Just as a counter-argument (I don't think the 2 party system is anywhere near perfect) but I've heard this as a pro 2-party argument. In other countries like Italy, there are many political parties, and it makes it near impossible for any one of them to get anything done because they face opposition from almost every other party and nobody is anywhere close to a majority. The fact that we have a 2-party system means that we can actually get things done.
@@gabrieljreed You should read up a little more on government systems in Europe. For instance, in Czech Republic, you have fractured parliament with no-one holding majority, but you form a coalition (compromising on your program with similar parties) to get that majority. It is harder to get stuff done, sure, but it is also harder for extremists to pass harmful legislation. The two party system is horrid imo, as for a party striving to win, they only have to appear to be lesser evil to their counterpart, not be actually any good.
@@TheZubata225 That's really interesting, I haven't heard that perspective before. Obviously I don't know a lot about it, but I just wanted to present it because it's an alternate perspective in favor of the 2-party system. I would love to have more options for president/Congress.
@@Coolgiy67 ngl, george washington wasn't the greatest president. He was a great military leader but not a very good politician. He's a bit overrated for being the leader of the continental army.
True since Dems have done the same thing that Republicans did during the Obama administration during Trump's and now the only one saying anything about their policies is Trump while Dems have run a slander campaign and used the protests turned riots as well as covid(which fun fact, the US has always had an issue dealing with epidemics) to slander Trump even though all they do is talk and don't show any sign of cooperation even though Republicans have gone on Fox News and stated that what happened to Goerge Flyod was a tragedy and that Covid is a serious issues.
Abie Rose: Your comment is childish. Of course political parties want to win, that by itself is not wrong and does not prove anything. You obviously did not watch the video because you are making the mistake he warns against. Watch the video. Then try a new comment.
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON KILLIN' THE ENIMIE'S FAMILY AND BURNIN' HIS HOUSE DOWN IF I'M WORRIED ABOUT SOME GUY LOOKIN' AT MY HOOHAAH?!
@@radthadd there are only 2 major political parties. there are other parties but they are nearly non-existent and don't play a role in elections. there has never been a president that is not either a dem or republican.
@@FredOrSomething Well... Before the Democrats and Republicans, there were the Whig and Tory parties. However, I do get your point. The Dems and the GOP are just too big to allow in any others and that is hurting our country.
Yes, but he was wrong in the sense that he didn't know how inevitable they were. Now that we're in this mess, the solution is to have more than two parties.
Chloridrex0 That’s not the problem. Both parties are becoming increasingly corrupt each day. We need different parties so that we can end corruption and make the parties think about the people and not just the prosperity of their party.
And yet he was part of the group of people who decided on a system that is advantageous to larger parties, which resulted in two major/relevant parties in the end.
@Nate P. Coco That reminds me of that South Park episode where they destroy Wallmart only for their local supermarket to become the new Wallmart so they destroy that too.
@@dereksippy4355 That was the great thing about Kennedy, he had a lot of physical pain from past injuries, he liked women a lot, they liked him. But he was smart, good, and basically a decent guy. Losing him shocked the world. To us Irish, Kennedy was nearly divine.
U.S justice system has a serious flaw in their method of proving defamation. It has allowed the news channel to blatantly lie every single day without even considering what's true or what isin't!
I'm a democrat and I'm here for the comments. I want to see if a Republican in the comments has any reasonable dispute with any of the facts in this video. I have yet to find one
@Marlon Brando Ain't that true. I agree completely. I feel that the most with now'er days public schools as well. As the majority are easily democratic. And I feel that is the way it is because the democratic agenda is pushed much harder than the republican. Therefore making their opinion not only seem like the right way of thinking, but that you are somehow doing everyone a favor by only having that opinion. So I feel that the youth is being almost pure-pressured into this way of thinking. And with beliefs like climate change being a mostly democratic belief, democrats see republican views as evil because they'd rather not "help the planet" from a chaos they don't believe in.
To all the people who say we don't need opposition in politics because "George Washington warned against political parties" he didn't mean that we should have a 1 party system. He meant we should have politicians who get elected not by party but by their policies.
Admit it. the Tyrannosaurus is a genus of tyrannosaurid theropod dinosaur. The species Tyrannosaurus rex, often called T. rex or colloquially T-Rex, is one of the best represented of these large theropods. Tyrannosaurus lived throughout what is now western North America, on what was then an island continent known as Laramidia.
Lies of conservative Republicans: The Civil War was about "states' rights." Confederates were patriots, not traitors. Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is Muslim. Michelle Obama was born a man. Liberals hate our police and military. Liberals hate America. The Affordable Care Act is communism. Trump had higher poll numbers than Lincoln (polls were established 70+ years after Lincoln). Climate change is a liberal hoax. I could go on for days. I truly don't understand how they can believe all of these things.
I kind of respect the "but let's be honest I'm the exact kind of person you'd expect to be making this argument, so let's get others in" move. It shows a level of self awareness.
@@valsan1323 I disagree. Every single Trump supporter I've gotten into discussions with have been unwilling to hear me out. Even when I present information that is objectively true, if it doesn't conform with their political beliefs, then I get shunned. Every. Time.
Everyone who agrees with this video is talking about the video, everyone who disagrees with this video refuses to address it and is talking about something else. Shows a lot
Nick H he saved America besides who cares about him owning slaves most people and even the founding father owned Slaves and George Washington did freed them when he die.
I'm from India and this same thing happens in my country also, rather than considering each other adversaries who can work with each other,both decide to blame each other and refuse to work together to solve the problem of the people.
The purpose of the video seems to be to highlight that the issue at hand may not be the result of actions taken by both sides but a broader issue. However I agree that Indian politics is a blame game.
Well yeah the media IS what drives it. They want everyone to look at us republicans as racists, homophobes, narcs, etc. Most of the big media/new outlets are owned/hosted by Dems.
Before reading the comments: preparing for the absolute chaos of both parties going at it 10 seconds later: what people are actually in agreement that a two party system is part of the problem?!?
It is a problem, but soon it will be worse. As the republican party gets smaller and the democrat party gets larger, we will soon be moving toward only democrat party.
Mhmm, and What’s more interesting is when you compare republicans and democrats on a political compass. While we normally consider Democrats to be on the left their actually on the right close to moderate. Meanwhile the republicans are far right. The reasoning for this being the Cold War, and our fear of communism. Which means technically our two party system is a one party system. It’s also why the right can become more and more right while the left stays mostly the same.
we should've listened to George Washington, he said that political parties would divide America and look where we are now EDIT: i did not mean one party only, that would be extremely controlling and make our political climate even worse. what i mean is that i think that political parties have divided america and that instead of two parties that each pick a candidate all the people running for president should run independently. this is for many reasons 1. voting for a person not a party ( ex : people who vote republican no matter who the candidate is ) 2. not getting stuck in a one or the other situation ( ex : “settle for biden” if you don’t want trump in office you have to “settle for biden” because if you vote on an independent or really small party you are basically throwing away your vote because only republicans and democrats win ) and i’m sure i’m forgetting some other good reasons but those are the main ones, hope this clarifies some things ☺️🇺🇸
US parties are a real light version. If you look at Europe party power is way stronger there. In conclusion single persons can change parties way more drastic in the US while parties in Europe give more power to the base.
@@SullivanHLKong Why does there have to be ANY party at all? Each side will decry having no parties because they don't want to lose power. But if there were no parties and everyone ran as Independents, then you'll see a lot more compromise. Compromise is a good thing.
It's not over yet tho... Republicans have 50 seats in the Senate... Hopefully Georgia elect Dem. senators to make it 50/50... But... Still a lot of people vote for them lunatics...
@@garrethigdon7678You are both. A democracy is not a type of state, but it merely describes who are in charge (namingly the people). A republic describes that the power is not hold by one person, as a dictator or monarch. Also ZER0 is right, more than two parties are needed.
The only reason this has become a problem in the first place is because of the lack of choice we have. Having only two political parties is bound to end in disaster because they both have to be extreme to differentiate from each other.
I think it would be near impossible to replace the system we have, as much as I agree with the statement. Both parties have been wildly successful for very long and they have many investors and many people looking out for either side that a reform to how the parties function is near impossible unless the American People are all on the same page.
@@trevor0245 very true- the news is one of the main factors for division. The other main factors, the education system, and parenting. While you can't control parenting as to monitor every civilians family- daily, you can control the education system and control the press- not your restriction of free speeches/actions but for complete inclusion
And yet, being too extreme is supposed to alienate a large chunk of the electorate, because most people are around the centre. Bit left, bit right, rarely far from the centre. And you kinda see it with Bernie Sanders in the Democratic party: both times he lost to safer, more neutral candidates. They feared his centre-left politics (I'm Canadian) would alienate too many voters. To appeal to as many voters as possible, every party should want to attract neutral voters. Which means gravitating towards the centre, with some variation in the smiles of candidates. And yet, it doesn't seem to work like that with the Republican party. They just move more and more to the right, and their base just seem to follow them, dragging the whole political spectrum to the right, then somehow still getting the votes. I... don't understand the United-States, it seems. I don't get how someone like Trump could get elected anywhere. Maybe some village in Florida. But president? Really?
Within the context of international political discourse, his positions are pretty much centre left. Even the conservatives in Australia and the UK are afraid to undermine their universal healthcare system.
As someone who is passionate about politics I am disappointed that I have seen more decorum used in a middle school lunch room than in the United States Congress.
Uranus Inbanana The real problem is that too many people think that voting for a third party is wasting a vote, so it becomes the lesser of 2 evils. However, in that system, even superficial qualities can be game changers.
You're absolutely right. In America, the use of Plurality voting ensures that, often, more than half the country is left unhappy about the winning party. In countries like here in Australia, we use preferential voting, which give a greater proportion of the population the party / candidate they want.
@@sadiyashiraj James Madison, 4th US President and author of several Federalist Papers; he's made a point many times that factions, now parties, within a democratic government is bound to lead to its corruption and possible downfall. And sure enough...
The problem is the left/right just forming a coalition to win control of the government even when they don't have enough votes as an individual party and you're back to the two party system.
Titanium Rain this doesn’t happen in proportional representative governments, like those used in most of Western Europe. Presumably a multi-party system in the US would be based on something similar.
@@leninaquino1493 or you could read the actual report and see the statistics for yourself, but I understand an imbecilic waste of oxygen life form like you wouldn't understand a thing. Bless your heart though
Politics Is Dumb Who said that? I do remember people stating to let people live their lives how they see fit...never seen someone say their isn't a male or female gender. Proof please?
I don't understand why people are so mad at the title. The video is actually in line with the title and backs it up with statistics and Mitch McConnell's behavior. People are getting too emotional these days.
Its mainly due to the broad canvas this paints, in the US you guys tend to attach identity with politics (really don't understand that tbh) so saying 'Republicans broke something' will make a lot of people attach that with 'they're blaming me and my friends' in a very human, tribal way people are obviously going to respond negatively. Again this was also addressed in the video, polite journalists don't want to offend roughly half the population so avoid blaming one side completely. It might very well be the Republican parties fault but there are more tactful ways to phrase it. Example: Republican politicians are breaking the government/democracy
Because those "statistics" are subjective. Both parties have changed but saying that the Republican Party is "completely out of control" is just false. This video is just for the people looking for more sound in their own little echo chamber.
@@PitchManFreak107 Both parties have changed yes, I believe the host shows this in a pretty info graphic showing both parties straying from the US centre line. But I would argue the republicans are out of control. The democrats have never refused to meet a republican nominee for anything. They haven't refused to even look at one of Trumps bills before voting no. The republican politicians are like a group of racist old men sitting in a bar playing poker; if you aren't one of them they want nothing to do with you. Time and time again the democrats try to compromise and the republicans refuse to budge. Both times the government has almost shut down is 100% because the Republicans have refused to compromise on anything.
@@GCOSBenbow Be careful here. You are entering uncharted territory for most republicans to hear. Facts are scary things made from an even scarier sauce called reality and I can tell you most republicans (at least here on youtube) are allergic to the either the sauce or just facts in general and will cough and hew nasty things at you like "fake news" and "libtard". This is just a friendly public reminder.
+GCOS Benbow I guess the best way to avoid offending Republicans with the title and getting them to check out right away and not even listen to the evidence would be to change the title to something like, 'Republican Leaders broke something'. Some would probably still get offended because... well that's America for you, but it probably would not be as bad. +Xanatos Maybe you don't agree with the statistics (No quotations around them btw... those are just cold hard facts) because you are looking for more sound in your own echo chamber? I mean, the extent to which ideologies have changed can be measured and while both parties have changed... you can determine which has changed more. And to both of ya... America should get rid of the party system... it honestly is terrible for us and does nothing but divide us. I mean... we should not vote for someone just because they are in the same political party as us... we should vote for someone because we believe they will truly do the best job. And political parties just hold us back. I mean, do you guys know that there is a position in each political party called the party whip? Their job is to literally just to enforce the party's platform by getting everyone in the party to vote the way the party leaders want them to vote... as you can probably tell, it's done in very shady ways sometimes.. like threatening to withhold funds and fund an opposition candidate for the next election if they don't vote a certain way. Anyway... get money out of politics and screw the party system!
@@kemcolian2001 Abolsih the electoral college, change the voting system to support multiple parties, that's all good. But you CANNOT in good faith say that the Republicans are better than Democrats.
@@hellraiser5671 you mean the grey wolves vs the white wolves? both will eat your face and RIP you to shreads...the thing is neither side will take responsibility for mangling your face . at it's so much easier to blame the other side.
A two party system is so wildly moronic. 1 step forward, 5 steps back. It’s all about undoing what the other person did. Rather than trying to move forward as a country.
@Libertarian Socialist That's because it seems extreme to you. You are trying to make your views seem like they are everybody else's. Legalizing marijuana is extreme to some people. Did you ever think parents might not want the legalization of weed because kids might use it. Just stay in your little Vox bubble.
@@harlenkelly7331 What I mean bu this is that we shouldn't account for one party's actions, then let the other party get away scot free. While both parties can do amazing things, we can't just ignore their wrongdoings. To call that assertion "dull-witted" is just like saying that it's okay for the "top student" to cheat and to not be penalized for it, while scrutinizing only the other one that was cheating. Why is it okay for one to get away with one thing, but not the other for the same mistake?
@@elizabethguillemette8632 Saying both parties are equally bad is an inaccurate, demonstrably false statement. It's analogous to stating that the US was equally bad when it fought against germany during ww2.
Jack Hutchison but the republicans have truly broken politics. Though it seems to be working well for them so far. So expect to see an extreme democrat nominee next election cycle.
Yeah I agree the way they put out the title is off-putting, not a good way to convince someone of their argument. Thats what I don't like about a lot of liberals is they have a tendency to be smug.
@@amehwican I'm norwegian, and it's not like Norway politics are perfect. I get daily aneurysms because of how our politicians love to waste tax money.
4:45 so they preemptively said that they would go against him, no matter what policy he proposes. Regardless whether the policy in question would improve the lives of US citizens. As long as it obstructs the success of their competitors, they will oppose it. No for the sake of no.
The longer I follow American politics, the more apparent it becomes to me that a two-party system combined with an antiquated electoral system is a deadly combination. In a multi-party system, even in democracies where polarization occurs, younger generations tend to vote out establishment parties in favour of new ones that with time enter the political mainstream and assume positions of power. The system is more self-regulating and the voters less entrenched. In certain elections it's not infrequent to vote for candidates hailing from different parties, e.g. an A party mayor, a B party city councillor and a C party member to a regional government for example. In a multi-party system someone like Sanders would probably be able to introduce some of his policies decades ago as part of a junior coalition party. Cruz and the more moderate Republicans like Flake or Murkowski wouldn't even be in the same party.
People truly don't realize how popular split-ticket voting is and how Americans used to check a box on their ballot that would vote for everyone running under the Republican party or everyone running under Democratic party. So glad we grew away from that and have slowly seen the # of Independent voters becoming the largest group in modern times!
It's cause in a 2 party system, there's a bigger opportunity for polarization. Usually in countries with multi party system judges the candidates individually
America's problem goes deeper than 2-party politics and a lousy electoral system. 1) Religionism, as distinct from religion. 2) Impaired educational system. 3) Protection of hate speech and LIES. 4) A tradition of anti-intellectualism, 5) Undue reverence for wealth and celebrity. I could go on, but the basic point is an apathetic, poorly-informed population, in which only the fearful, bigoted, blaming haters have any commitment to voting.
They didn't 'become' polarized. The side pushing for all of them have done so from the start because they have a radical agenda, and must invent crisis to garnish greater control in order to reach it. It has always been polarized as such between the authoritarians and those who've bought into their misinformation, and the free thinkers with the capacity to critically analyze rather than simply swallowing a narrative, and instead of buying into it, simply want to preserve their freedom and live their lives. There was never a way for it to be anything BUT polarized.
@@Jessica-eo5hg I deleted no comment, and the ones I remember are still here... though UA-cam has occasionally messed things up when I edit things for grammar or the like, and it's possible I forgot one. Which are you referring to?
Yeah the title sucks, but the argument is extremely convincing to me. These implicit rules in politics are being broken. We have to hold the leaders breaking them accountable.
MSklar sit down and talk with a rational conservative. Don’t take a one sided story you found on UA-cam. Get an idea of both sides. I promise you if you listen to both you will become pretty moderate
No rules have been broken. The Republicans have done right by their voters, as they should. I believe this is the "populist revolution" Steve Bannon likes to talk about.
Your not conservative if you agree with this video VOX has done videos defending Antifa this shows how far left they are. This video is nothing but liberal propaganda.
To all those criticizing the title of the video, or saying you could say the same of Democrats, you have missed the point. The point of the video is to establish how and why we got to our particular moment in politics. The answer is unequivocally the Republican party's strategy since 2009. If you paid attention, the video actually demonstrates that the Republicans are to blame by a significant increase in intransigent party politics, which is clearly responded to by the Democrats. This is a video demonstrating that the "both sides" narrative is false. To say in response "both sides" is basically ignoring the facts, plugging your ears and shouting: "nuh-uh!" You are ignorantly perpetuating the reasons we got here in the first place. Face fact, Republicans have rejected compromise in a system that is founded upon compromise. The Republican party HAS broken US politics, and possibly our republic, we shall see.
I agree that Republicans broke it. But we have to hold both sides accountable to fix it. We can’t just allow the left to justify resorting to the same tactics by saying “well they started it” But all and all...I’ll say that this was a well argued and fair video.
@@imagoblack At this point, I am not convinced there is anything the Democrats, or the political Left can do. The Republicans have basically shut real discourse down. People are not talking across the aisle, and recent events show there is little point for the Democrats to reach out or to trust Republicans when they do. There is little Congressional or Senatorial Democrats can do other than responding in kind. Capitulation doesn't help anyone. Liberal and progressive voters have kept electing their candidates. Ultimately the burden to fix this falls to conservatives. Conservatives across the country need to reexamine their values and where it has brought them. Conservatives will have to take steps to come to the table again. A good start would be to stop running interference for Trump and seriously entertain charges.
You bring up a great point, it's going to take conservatives with conservative values to fix this. The politicians have basically done anything for power and unfortunately a large part of their constituents have fallen in line. They'll ignore a man cheating on his pregnant wife as their representative as long as he's doing things for them. We need good wholesome people on both sides to say anything for power isn't acceptable
@DefiantBoris You're operating from some faulty assumption here. The Second Amendment wasn't a political issue at all, for either "side" until the late 1960s (and really not an issue if any significance until the 1980s). Asking if Democrats have always been in favor of repealing the Second Amendment is like asking how George Washington responded to people asking the feds to regulate Facebook.
@DefiantBoris What? How are liberals against the whole of the constitution cause they seem to not like one amendment? Have you even actually read the whole of the constitution or does it start and stop at 2?
The data doesn't define liberal or conservative or describe the philosophy at all. You can't infer anything from the graph if the constructs/measures aren't defined properly. This video is actual liberal propaganda.
@@candelario4288 The website clearly describes how it aquires the data, including linking to a legacy website. How do I know this? I read your link. What did you do? Find page for liberal or conservative?
@@prestont.6669 Could you point me to where in the legacy website or the "Spatial Models of Parliamentary Voting" (which is where the DW-NOMINATE model and method of analysis comes from) is the definition of the political philosophy? because I read it and couldn't find it.
@@prestont.6669 The graph that carlos interprets has nothing to do with what he is saying. His analysis is technically invalid. I've watched the video 3 times now and nowhere in the actual chart does it say that it is scored based on how extreme or moderate you are. It says it is scored on how liberal and conservative you are (undefined) and on differences within the political parties over slavery, currency, nativism, civil rights, and lifestyle issues during periods of American history.
@@candelario4288 say that you are right. how can you make the jump to calling it liberal propaganda? just curious whether you are drawing that conclusion from your own assumptions or if you can actually support that with something solid. also, one of the major points in the video had nothing to do with any charts. the fact is, Republicans will literally block bills just because of the people presenting them (Obama). they also created a "medicare" bill behind closed doors, and tried to pass said bill behind closed doors, without even letting Democrats see it. this is obviously bad for democracy. compromise is the lifeblood of democracy. I think addressing this kind of behavior is the crux of the video.
Hojin Cho Coming from someone in the US, that’s exactly what it is. If you can’t aggressively push your agenda & push others away, no matter how good your policies are, you are dead in the water. (Bernie.) If you can aggressively yell whatever you have to say & directly call others out, you thrive. (Trump & Biden.)
Hahaha, you're not wrong. I wonder if the best representation would be some kind of circle. Like, is it possible to become so liberal that you end up mirroring the ultra far right? Like Stalin did with the communist movements in the twentieth century? That might reinforce the idea that extremism on either side just ends up being totalitarian, and the only true freedom is centrism.
@@DiscoDumpTruck For that matter, it seems more reasonable to do away with spectrums, and just get people to understand political ideologies (no more conflating conservatism and classical liberalism, please!).
It's great they can bypass the forced semblance of neutrality by humor. If someone acts irrationally making fun of them is easy and that hits the republicans harder than the democrats.
@@pyrofestimo At least in the United States, they have the right to say almost anything they want. A news station actually went to court for the right to lie to their viewers.
George Washington about to revive himself and roast the entire country because he said two parties would destroy everything
Michael Rahaman
And he was right
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*creates party of Anime *
United States of Anime okay?
@@jacktheflash8478 Oh, yay!
Admit it. The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Admit it the nucleus is a dope name unlike NASA's numbers for planets
Admit it 62 cents is a good deal
Admit it midiclorians are canon
Admit it. This comment is "admit it."
Admit it. A comically large spoon is still a only a spoonful.
pov: you're scrolling through the comments looking for wars between democrats and republicans
Yeah brother
Yup
ben lillistone ok so
How did you guess
Are you psychic??
I am writing this in mid 2024, and things have gotten worse exponentially.
It's 9/18 and it's not looking any better
looks even worse now
it's been 17 minutes since the last guy commented and i don't know how but i promise it's even worse
@@U-Mimcomit is now 2 weeks and it’s even worse
Hi.
Hi.
Yeah.
It's kinda even worse now
I can’t wait for the comments section to be full of reasonable debate and people willing to listen to other viewpoints
Dankk Mann96 this is it, the best comment
lmaooooooooo
I thought the exact same thing when I saw the title.
I respectfully disagree good sir but will not use that as a reason to attack you personally
hell yeah! totally!
Aaaaaand I now remember why President Washington didn't want political parties...
Gospel. We got warnings in the federalist papers over the creation of "factions"
Yea but that was never going to happen
I think the issue is not that political parties emerged, but rather than key figures were so against them that they didn't account for how they would eventually emerge and then shape our politics. Parties are a logical way for voters to contribute to the course setting in a nation without each of them having to become hobbyist political theorists, the easy association of direction each party offers is extremely useful for the average person. It seems to me that regulating how parties operate is more realistic than wishing no parties existed.
Whether it happened officially it was going to happen either way.
@@tylerreed2409 Becomming a "hobbyist political theorists" worked when only landowners were allowed to vote.
But then we had such radical leftist ideas like "voting rights for all men".
Admit it. You came here for the comments.
Yup
*sideshow Bob impression* "guilty... as charged..."
Also guilty as charged.
Yes:)
Yup
Who else is watching this after trump was reelected?
The more I rewatch this video, the more I understand and realize how FAR the extremes has grown in the politics regarding the Republican Party
Why is no one talking about the fact that only having two major parties is contributing to the problem?
I was thinkig the same thing....the elephant that standing in the room...no that's the Republican emblem.
@@Robespierre-lI sometimes 'working' just entails achieving the bare minimum which is perhaps what many people are starting to realize
Multiple party is un democratic
@@-i1007 Incorrect. If people want to vote for a third party, the presence of the third party in politics is the result of that voice being represented in government. Limiting the system to one choice or the other limits people in terms of what they're allowed to express by voting. A two-party system essentially constrains voters to either one polar opinion or the other, and having more representatives from different parties with different beliefs in every election would make that much, much less of an issue.
ernest wamalwa if they’re are too many political parties there won’t be any change there will be many opinions in congress
Politics is just high school with older people
Yep..politicians nowadays are like toddlers that can’t decide what snack they want🤦♂️🤷♂️😬
@@marvingordon5685 But toddlers don't go to highschool...
Fund my friend or I don’t vote you prom queen
Tax cuts or I hold up your supposed bill in Congress
and nukes
only those older people decide the fate of an entire country
Admit it. Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes. Together, we can stop this
Jamal
Best one yet
PREACH
your right, we need to delete the world
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Whaaaaat a country with a two party system struggles with polarisation?! I am utterly shocked
Let's be grateful that we were born outside the US
@@PresidentJeanAuguste i wish i was born somewhere in Germany tbh
@@PresidentJeanAuguste yes because we love shutting on one of the best countries even though we have no knowledge of it and never try to hear about the good stuff in it only the bad stuff
@Based Adonis Probably unpopular
This is actually not how politics were for most of the US history. Historically the 2 parties fought for the middle of the country, and it actually had a more moderating effect on politics. Compare that to multi-party systems which can make smaller more ideologically fringe parties in a position of power in their coalitions. So it's not the system, but it's other cultural and social changes in the last 30-40 years that have led to increased polarization. And no, it's not the "Republicans" fault. Both parties are responsible, it takes 2 to tango.
If there we no political parties at all, people would have to actually read about the politician to understand what they stand for. Thats what I think
ya, but trump is very different from other republicans
imagine all the people ....
Just as a counter-argument (I don't think the 2 party system is anywhere near perfect) but I've heard this as a pro 2-party argument. In other countries like Italy, there are many political parties, and it makes it near impossible for any one of them to get anything done because they face opposition from almost every other party and nobody is anywhere close to a majority. The fact that we have a 2-party system means that we can actually get things done.
@@gabrieljreed You should read up a little more on government systems in Europe. For instance, in Czech Republic, you have fractured parliament with no-one holding majority, but you form a coalition (compromising on your program with similar parties) to get that majority. It is harder to get stuff done, sure, but it is also harder for extremists to pass harmful legislation. The two party system is horrid imo, as for a party striving to win, they only have to appear to be lesser evil to their counterpart, not be actually any good.
@@TheZubata225 That's really interesting, I haven't heard that perspective before. Obviously I don't know a lot about it, but I just wanted to present it because it's an alternate perspective in favor of the 2-party system. I would love to have more options for president/Congress.
Admit it: George Washington was right when he said that there shouldn’t be two political parties.
@Jesus Christjust an over exaggerated example lol
George Washington’s was a conservative
@@Coolgiy67 ngl, george washington wasn't the greatest president. He was a great military leader but not a very good politician. He's a bit overrated for being the leader of the continental army.
@@varangianguard7102 he didnt want to be in charge anyways
@@Appalachian_trail_mix
george: i'm not the messiah
everyone: YOU'RE THE MESSIAH
admit it. 69,435% of comments contains 'admit it'.
Such willpower
I won't ADMIT it!
Lol
420 chance wasted smh
69.420%*
Half of the negative comments on this video are from people who haven’t watched it
Fr
The problem with politics is that the parties care more about beating the other party then helping America
True since Dems have done the same thing that Republicans did during the Obama administration during Trump's and now the only one saying anything about their policies is Trump while Dems have run a slander campaign and used the protests turned riots as well as covid(which fun fact, the US has always had an issue dealing with epidemics) to slander Trump even though all they do is talk and don't show any sign of cooperation even though Republicans have gone on Fox News and stated that what happened to Goerge Flyod was a tragedy and that Covid is a serious issues.
Daro'Khajii fax
It's than. Otherwise it implies they want to help America which I suspect is not your point.
Brandon Kalinowski my guy....
Abie Rose: Your comment is childish. Of course political parties want to win, that by itself is not wrong and does not prove anything. You obviously did not watch the video because you are making the mistake he warns against. Watch the video. Then try a new comment.
Scroll back up. Not worth the brain cells down here.
why
aight
Your not my Mom!
@@stealthcone Its "youre not my dad"
Thank you
Admit it. There are too many “Admit it” comments.
Omer Ginawi I admit, you’re right.
republicans are being sarcastic
banana daily Admit it, we are.
Admit it . You are one of them
420th like 👍
“Reject political parties
Return to Birthday Parties”
_Pico, 2021_
Respect
I’d vote
I preffer Mario Party's myself
admit it, you came for the angry comments but only found 'admit it' memes
@Don K random time.
Republican space rangers
lol yup
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON KILLIN' THE ENIMIE'S FAMILY AND BURNIN' HIS HOUSE DOWN IF I'M WORRIED ABOUT SOME GUY LOOKIN' AT MY HOOHAAH?!
Just sort by new. Usually its there
Edit: nvm, dont even try
Admit it: Having two parties with no room for a third or fourth is contributing to the problem.
ya
There are like 6 parties. Go read a book
@@radthadd there are only 2 major political parties. there are other parties but they are nearly non-existent and don't play a role in elections. there has never been a president that is not either a dem or republican.
@@FredOrSomething Well... Before the Democrats and Republicans, there were the Whig and Tory parties. However, I do get your point. The Dems and the GOP are just too big to allow in any others and that is hurting our country.
Blue Cat, precisely
Admit it, every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes
Together, we can stop this!
@@sonicvenom8292 LOL
this comment is gold
Big brain
@@sonicvenom8292 spread awareness
"foreshadowing is a literary device"
George Washington was right about political parties.
Amazing how we didn't just listen to him
Yes, but he was wrong in the sense that he didn't know how inevitable they were. Now that we're in this mess, the solution is to have more than two parties.
Chloridrex0 That’s not the problem. Both parties are becoming increasingly corrupt each day. We need different parties so that we can end corruption and make the parties think about the people and not just the prosperity of their party.
And yet he was part of the group of people who decided on a system that is advantageous to larger parties, which resulted in two major/relevant parties in the end.
@Nate P. Coco That reminds me of that South Park episode where they destroy Wallmart only for their local supermarket to become the new Wallmart so they destroy that too.
"You cannot negotiate with someone who says: "What's mine is mine and what's your's is negotiable!""
-President John F Kennedy
believe it or not kennedy was not an infallible god
@@dereksippy4355 That was the great thing about Kennedy, he had a lot of physical pain from past injuries, he liked women a lot, they liked him. But he was smart, good, and basically a decent guy. Losing him shocked the world. To us Irish, Kennedy was nearly divine.
He was the Democrat US needs today not Bernie Sanders.
@@asherdog9248 So did his dad.
@death eater Oh man....wow...you got 'im. Yea...yea...you got 'im.
“A House divided on oneself cannot stand.”- Abraham Lincoln
itself*
Facts
100% facts
-Jesus too (woosh me I dare you)
Itself*
I did not come for politics
I came for the comments
Admit it: We wish news stations actually said what happened, not bend it because politics.
Exactly!
Thank you, Jimmy Kimmel But blackface!
Jimmy Kimmel But blackface finally
U.S justice system has a serious flaw in their method of proving defamation. It has allowed the news channel to blatantly lie every single day without even considering what's true or what isin't!
jriden CNN is much worse. i bet you don’t even know why you hate trump
*Admit it. Godzilla won in Godzilla vs Kong.*
I'm a democrat and I'm here for the comments. I want to see if a Republican in the comments has any reasonable dispute with any of the facts in this video. I have yet to find one
@@roachdoggjr722 Probably because the majority are democrat lol
@Marlon Brando Ain't that true. I agree completely. I feel that the most with now'er days public schools as well. As the majority are easily democratic. And I feel that is the way it is because the democratic agenda is pushed much harder than the republican. Therefore making their opinion not only seem like the right way of thinking, but that you are somehow doing everyone a favor by only having that opinion. So I feel that the youth is being almost pure-pressured into this way of thinking. And with beliefs like climate change being a mostly democratic belief, democrats see republican views as evil because they'd rather not "help the planet" from a chaos they don't believe in.
YES SIR
Fax
To all the people who say we don't need opposition in politics because "George Washington warned against political parties" he didn't mean that we should have a 1 party system. He meant we should have politicians who get elected not by party but by their policies.
True
Tell that to the people who keep voting the party line instead of the individual.
@@stevenalexander4721 exactly!
This will also not work as only president doesn't take decisions
Or we could do it like everyone else and make more parties
Admit it. the Tyrannosaurus is a genus of tyrannosaurid theropod dinosaur. The species Tyrannosaurus rex, often called T. rex or colloquially T-Rex, is one of the best represented of these large theropods. Tyrannosaurus lived throughout what is now western North America, on what was then an island continent known as Laramidia.
I'll admit that.
Someone: *shares opinion*
Comments: so you have chosen... death
Am I the only one waiting for republicans to bring back McArthyism and the false accusations and blacklists
you decided to say something about sharing opinions? you have shared your opinion.....
so you have chosen.... death
Omae Wa Mou, Shindeiru
nani
@@zyansheep ZA WARUDO!!
Is everyone here waiting to see if the liberals stop trying to destroy the country with socialism?
Admit it. Some of you are non American, and come here only to see the chaos. Instead, you get admit it memes
Got me 😁🇩🇪
So true haha
yes memes rule not politics
True
correct
How to find war in this video:
1. Go to comments
2. Sort by “Newest First”
3. You will find Democrats vs Republicans
Thank me later
Thank you, the chaos is amusing
Thanks mate.
Thanks
Thanks
Thank you
Admit it. Two political parties isn't going to save the hellhole that is current U.S.A
Remember back when you felt that the people running the government had to be smart?
I feel like in America, as long as you know the right people or have enough money, you don't really have to be qualified for anything.
@@jacobsegura5478
Sir, you are 100% correct.
@Lil Rob
Yea, back then.
That was when I was 8
@@jacobsegura5478 SO TRUE how do i send this comment to donald trump
Admit it. You're looking for an all out Democrat and Republican war in the comments.
Yeah
Lies of conservative Republicans:
The Civil War was about "states' rights."
Confederates were patriots, not traitors.
Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is Muslim.
Michelle Obama was born a man.
Liberals hate our police and military.
Liberals hate America.
The Affordable Care Act is communism.
Trump had higher poll numbers than Lincoln (polls were established 70+ years after Lincoln).
Climate change is a liberal hoax.
I could go on for days. I truly don't understand how they can believe all of these things.
Yea
This is Vox, I don't think many Republicans will be here
Admit it you copied a comment 👮♂️
I kind of respect the "but let's be honest I'm the exact kind of person you'd expect to be making this argument, so let's get others in" move. It shows a level of self awareness.
A level that no trump supporter has ever reached.
@@erinangel9452 😂😭😭😭🙈
@@erinangel9452 That's just not true.
@@valsan1323 I disagree. Every single Trump supporter I've gotten into discussions with have been unwilling to hear me out. Even when I present information that is objectively true, if it doesn't conform with their political beliefs, then I get shunned. Every. Time.
@@jameshall5171 That's just the Trump supporters you've come across.
You've not met all the Trump supporters.
Everyone who agrees with this video is talking about the video, everyone who disagrees with this video refuses to address it and is talking about something else. Shows a lot
Do y'all remember when George Washington once said about how political parties corrupt? I just wanted to say one thing...
... he was right
Terrible use of the read more suprise
He was also a slave owner. What's your point?
@@npholmes09 I know, that's sad but still he had a point
Nick H he saved America besides who cares about him owning slaves most people and even the founding father owned Slaves and George Washington did freed them when he die.
Nick H thats actually a really good point you aren’t trying to make, wrong and right live side by side.
A wise man once said, “United we stand divided we fall.”
Realy?
Niko who said that?
@@risteelongtran3506 Pink Floyd makes that statement in a song on "The Wall."
Oh, America's gonna fall pretty soon thanks to Israel
@mouth America needed LifeAlert
Admit it, the country is not so “united”
According to my friends in England, we really need more than a two party race.
Honestly . We need 8 more parties
When has this country ever been united, Besides 1933-1945?
Joshua you’re right
Word
I'm from India and this same thing happens in my country also, rather than considering each other adversaries who can work with each other,both decide to blame each other and refuse to work together to solve the problem of the people.
The purpose of the video seems to be to highlight that the issue at hand may not be the result of actions taken by both sides but a broader issue. However I agree that Indian politics is a blame game.
You left on the comments... You brave brave souls.
Leaving the comments on is the norm. anyone who disables the comment is a coward.
There is nothing to fear but fascism itself...
Josef Heilburger you won the internet for the day for this comment! It was exactly how I thought!
The only vid I know that they disabled comments on is the risk trans people face with their IDs, which was a smart move
@@saddaddytentacles9897
Why?
No wonder America is so politically divided, the media helps it.
Exactly
Well yeah the media IS what drives it. They want everyone to look at us republicans as racists, homophobes, narcs, etc. Most of the big media/new outlets are owned/hosted by Dems.
The only credible news source today is the onion
@@thatsaboat2882 XD
@@Jared827LoL and the right media wants people to think the left are ratical liers and all want money. neither side is good
When the anti-republican video starts with a Trump ad
I got a berne sanders ad.
Right 😂
Neptune Bandit i got Bernie too
I got Mike Bloomberg 😂
Ironic
lol, After 7 minutes, I looked at the upload date and was surprised it's not from today.
Before reading the comments: preparing for the absolute chaos of both parties going at it
10 seconds later: what people are actually in agreement that a two party system is part of the problem?!?
Yep
Its It's not the problem
It is a problem, but soon it will be worse. As the republican party gets smaller and the democrat party gets larger, we will soon be moving toward only democrat party.
Jantheking another step along the road to dictatorship
Mhmm, and What’s more interesting is when you compare republicans and democrats on a political compass. While we normally consider Democrats to be on the left their actually on the right close to moderate. Meanwhile the republicans are far right. The reasoning for this being the Cold War, and our fear of communism. Which means technically our two party system is a one party system.
It’s also why the right can become more and more right while the left stays mostly the same.
we should've listened to George Washington, he said that political parties would divide America and look where we are now
EDIT: i did not mean one party only, that would be extremely controlling and make our political climate even worse. what i mean is that i think that political parties have divided america and that instead of two parties that each pick a candidate all the people running for president should run independently. this is for many reasons
1. voting for a person not a party ( ex : people who vote republican no matter who the candidate is )
2. not getting stuck in a one or the other situation ( ex : “settle for biden” if you don’t want trump in office you have to “settle for biden” because if you vote on an independent or really small party you are basically throwing away your vote because only republicans and democrats win )
and i’m sure i’m forgetting some other good reasons but those are the main ones, hope this clarifies some things ☺️🇺🇸
US parties are a real light version. If you look at Europe party power is way stronger there. In conclusion single persons can change parties way more drastic in the US while parties in Europe give more power to the base.
@@SullivanHLKong Why does there have to be ANY party at all? Each side will decry having no parties because they don't want to lose power. But if there were no parties and everyone ran as Independents, then you'll see a lot more compromise. Compromise is a good thing.
Federalist papers? No.10? No.61?
So what we need is a single party?? A dictatorship where nobody can vote??
John Salchichon read my edit
“Meet me in the middle.” says the unjust man.
You take a step towards him and he takes a step back.
“Meet me in the middle.” says the unjust man.
Sorry, I was like no. 70, I broke the NOICE.
Democrats in a nutshell.
Lol did you watch the video?
The unjust man = dems
@@benjaminr8961 every party in a nutshell
Admit it. You saw a comment about going to newest comments to see the fight between democrats and republicans
I love you
bruh i just wanna see the arguemennts
😂
😮
@@nok6099 just scroll further down
“This problem is likely to get worse as time goes on”
2020: 👁👄👁
*the election*
STOPPPP😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
**GASP**
< [👁👄👁
@@jailynhill2840 go.
It's not over yet tho... Republicans have 50 seats in the Senate... Hopefully Georgia elect Dem. senators to make it 50/50... But... Still a lot of people vote for them lunatics...
Admit it. For democracy it needs more than two parties.
admit it. the united states isnt a democracy. its a republic
Garret Higdon This is some Star Wars Phantom Menace s**t
@@garrethigdon7678You are both. A democracy is not a type of state, but it merely describes who are in charge (namingly the people). A republic describes that the power is not hold by one person, as a dictator or monarch. Also ZER0 is right, more than two parties are needed.
We definitely need more moderate parties so that normal Democrats and normal Republicans don't have to vote for extremists.
@@garrethigdon7678 If we aren't vigilant we son't be either in november...
The only reason this has become a problem in the first place is because of the lack of choice we have. Having only two political parties is bound to end in disaster because they both have to be extreme to differentiate from each other.
With our current voting system, it's not gonna change anytime soon, or ever.
I think it would be near impossible to replace the system we have, as much as I agree with the statement. Both parties have been wildly successful for very long and they have many investors and many people looking out for either side that a reform to how the parties function is near impossible unless the American People are all on the same page.
@@trevor0245 very true- the news is one of the main factors for division. The other main factors, the education system, and parenting. While you can't control parenting as to monitor every civilians family- daily, you can control the education system and control the press- not your restriction of free speeches/actions but for complete inclusion
@@gameimprovements4347 Ah, the HitlerJugend
And yet, being too extreme is supposed to alienate a large chunk of the electorate, because most people are around the centre. Bit left, bit right, rarely far from the centre.
And you kinda see it with Bernie Sanders in the Democratic party: both times he lost to safer, more neutral candidates. They feared his centre-left politics (I'm Canadian) would alienate too many voters. To appeal to as many voters as possible, every party should want to attract neutral voters. Which means gravitating towards the centre, with some variation in the smiles of candidates.
And yet, it doesn't seem to work like that with the Republican party. They just move more and more to the right, and their base just seem to follow them, dragging the whole political spectrum to the right, then somehow still getting the votes.
I... don't understand the United-States, it seems. I don't get how someone like Trump could get elected anywhere. Maybe some village in Florida. But president? Really?
Not only destroying American politics, but the also the politics in the whole wide world
Politics has become a toxic multiplayer match
amen
Practically Ness on online smash
Preach
It always have been
Even before USA was born
Trump69420 has the highest K/D so far.
Vox: The Democrats are moderate and the republicans are far right
Bernie Sanders: Am I a centrist to you?
King Tomislav Mapping underrated comment of the day right here
I may agree with Vox on Democrats are moderate but you can’t be more true
The party as a whole, not individual candidates
Within the context of international political discourse, his positions are pretty much centre left. Even the conservatives in Australia and the UK are afraid to undermine their universal healthcare system.
Ah yes, we all know that one candidate who lost is representative of and influential to the position of the entire party
As someone who is passionate about politics I am disappointed that I have seen more decorum used in a middle school lunch room than in the United States Congress.
But this video here ignored the fact that Democrats
are Right-Wing by World-Standard, and also the Rachet-Effect!
Admit it: half of us aren't even from the US and just like watching old white men argue in the comments.
Half?? More like 3 quarters
@@genekendrick679 ahaha
WHITE!? 😭😰😰😰😨😨😱
Guilty as charged
Friendly reminder that this 0:32 wouldn't be a problem if voting for more han two parties were realistically possible.
Francisco Rendón change the voting method The alternative vote is better
Uranus Inbanana The real problem is that too many people think that voting for a third party is wasting a vote, so it becomes the lesser of 2 evils. However, in that system, even superficial qualities can be game changers.
@@Shrekfromthehitmovieshrek STV for Legislative Elections
@@siddharthraykar9476 I've been voting Libertarian forever so I'm just out here waiting for y'all to quit letting me down with your wishy washy selves
Gavin Otto Good for you. I’m in favour slightly bigger gov’t, but I can see where Libertarians are coming from.
I don't want journalists to be neutral, I want them to he objective. Neutral and objective aren't the same thing
So you mean opinion
What is considered "natural" is actually democratic majority of the time, for some small examples the Washington Post, CNN, and parts of FOX too.
@@jackace4275 I'm a bit confused, do you mean neutral?
@@aderinolamiju Objectivity is not opinion
@@dopplar I'm talking about the main sources of political interest are usually not neutral
Don't mind me, I'm just here to see people argue on the internet
RepubliCAN'T vs democRAT
Indubitably
Weeb
Admit it, You're just here to see people argue on the internet
Tomoko???
hm I'm sure wondering why I'm seeing this six years after it was uploaded, surely not anything recent, right?
George Washington: Am I a joke to you?
•lokicoffee• 👏👏👏👏👏
George Washington: Am I funny to you, like a funny clown? See this riding crop? Oh, did that hurt, poltroon?
Yes, you had slaves, Mr. Hippo Teeth, and you were a greedy unscrupulous Miser! And this was George Washington, he was the best American! 😂
54markl he was still an amazing president my guy
Lol he was neither. He was something else but I don’t remember what it was called.
maybe we should have a voting system that encourages more than 2 parties.
You're absolutely right. In America, the use of Plurality voting ensures that, often, more than half the country is left unhappy about the winning party. In countries like here in Australia, we use preferential voting, which give a greater proportion of the population the party / candidate they want.
@@sadiyashiraj James Madison, 4th US President and author of several Federalist Papers; he's made a point many times that factions, now parties, within a democratic government is bound to lead to its corruption and possible downfall. And sure enough...
The problem is the left/right just forming a coalition to win control of the government even when they don't have enough votes as an individual party and you're back to the two party system.
Titanium Rain this doesn’t happen in proportional representative governments, like those used in most of Western Europe. Presumably a multi-party system in the US would be based on something similar.
Wow, a GOOD IDEA..................not going to happen obviously!
I think the media actually broke politics
Underrated comment
Kinda true. Escpiecally CNN
Kinda true. Especially Fox
@@chacha_oolala kinda true especially vox
FOX and CNN
They’re polar opposites
Admit it, you don't own an air fryer
Lol i do
I do tho
I advocate for Air Fryer Supremacy
how do you know i lended it
Politics has evolved into performance art.
KEN Green it’s turned into reality tv
@@airwipe1639 it's turned into a disaster movie but no one is running away from the storm
They always were, they are just less sophisticated
Devolved
Politics have devolved into a game of monopoly
People commenting appear to be confused about the difference between facts and opinions.
And there are also people who dont understand the concept and difference of opinion, and profesional opinion.
@@lakeman1966 I never know how to call them... republicunt, cuntservative, republitard...
THIS REPORT AND THESE EXPERTS SAY IT'S A FACT SO IT'S A FACT LOL
@@leninaquino1493 or you could read the actual report and see the statistics for yourself, but I understand an imbecilic waste of oxygen life form like you wouldn't understand a thing. Bless your heart though
Politics Is Dumb Who said that? I do remember people stating to let people live their lives how they see fit...never seen someone say their isn't a male
or female gender. Proof please?
I don't understand why people are so mad at the title. The video is actually in line with the title and backs it up with statistics and Mitch McConnell's behavior.
People are getting too emotional these days.
Its mainly due to the broad canvas this paints, in the US you guys tend to attach identity with politics (really don't understand that tbh) so saying 'Republicans broke something' will make a lot of people attach that with 'they're blaming me and my friends' in a very human, tribal way people are obviously going to respond negatively.
Again this was also addressed in the video, polite journalists don't want to offend roughly half the population so avoid blaming one side completely. It might very well be the Republican parties fault but there are more tactful ways to phrase it.
Example: Republican politicians are breaking the government/democracy
Because those "statistics" are subjective. Both parties have changed but saying that the Republican Party is "completely out of control" is just false. This video is just for the people looking for more sound in their own little echo chamber.
@@PitchManFreak107 Both parties have changed yes, I believe the host shows this in a pretty info graphic showing both parties straying from the US centre line. But I would argue the republicans are out of control. The democrats have never refused to meet a republican nominee for anything. They haven't refused to even look at one of Trumps bills before voting no. The republican politicians are like a group of racist old men sitting in a bar playing poker; if you aren't one of them they want nothing to do with you. Time and time again the democrats try to compromise and the republicans refuse to budge. Both times the government has almost shut down is 100% because the Republicans have refused to compromise on anything.
@@GCOSBenbow Be careful here. You are entering uncharted territory for most republicans to hear. Facts are scary things made from an even scarier sauce called reality and I can tell you most republicans (at least here on youtube) are allergic to the either the sauce or just facts in general and will cough and hew nasty things at you like "fake news" and "libtard". This is just a friendly public reminder.
+GCOS Benbow I guess the best way to avoid offending Republicans with the title and getting them to check out right away and not even listen to the evidence would be to change the title to something like, 'Republican Leaders broke something'. Some would probably still get offended because... well that's America for you, but it probably would not be as bad.
+Xanatos Maybe you don't agree with the statistics (No quotations around them btw... those are just cold hard facts) because you are looking for more sound in your own echo chamber? I mean, the extent to which ideologies have changed can be measured and while both parties have changed... you can determine which has changed more.
And to both of ya... America should get rid of the party system... it honestly is terrible for us and does nothing but divide us. I mean... we should not vote for someone just because they are in the same political party as us... we should vote for someone because we believe they will truly do the best job. And political parties just hold us back. I mean, do you guys know that there is a position in each political party called the party whip? Their job is to literally just to enforce the party's platform by getting everyone in the party to vote the way the party leaders want them to vote... as you can probably tell, it's done in very shady ways sometimes.. like threatening to withhold funds and fund an opposition candidate for the next election if they don't vote a certain way. Anyway... get money out of politics and screw the party system!
The real title should be: Admit it. American parties have broken politics.
I feel like you're doing the same, "both sides," thing that the video is criticizing.
@@hellraiser5671 welllllll, when this video came out it was only one side but now its both.
@@kemcolian2001 Abolsih the electoral college, change the voting system to support multiple parties, that's all good. But you CANNOT in good faith say that the Republicans are better than Democrats.
@@hellraiser5671 you mean the grey wolves vs the white wolves? both will eat your face and RIP you to shreads...the thing is neither side will take responsibility for mangling your face . at it's so much easier to blame the other side.
@@Nyeusi_Uhuru This is exactly what I mean. Empty platitudes from a false middle ground.
A two party system is so wildly moronic.
1 step forward, 5 steps back. It’s all about undoing what the other person did. Rather than trying to move forward as a country.
It goes deeper than that, republicans may be going to the extreme end politically but democrats are going to the extreme end socially.
@Libertarian Socialist That's because it seems extreme to you. You are trying to make your views seem like they are everybody else's. Legalizing marijuana is extreme to some people. Did you ever think parents might not want the legalization of weed because kids might use it. Just stay in your little Vox bubble.
TobiasJLogan uh a two-party system keeps politics less stratified and extreme... have you taken any politics courses
more parties doesnt mean better.
in canada, a majority can be as low as 34% assuming everyone who is elligible votes.
@@JWarrior_81 They aren't being subjective, they are referring to where policies fit on the political spectrum.
Admit it. You’re stealing my oxygen by inhaling it.
Admit it. I am the senate.
I love democracy
@@abhiramkrishnan7202 ironic
Ok frank
Space Ball movie plot
Admit it. Businesses need to stay out of politics
Welcome to crony capitalism!
And don't give government too much power
Politics got involved with business first.
Because politician got too many power
So do unions.
Admit it. Both parties can be equally bad, it's up to us to all become better people, not to just single one group out and to cut slack for the other
@@RaisedWhiteMist Thank you!
@@elizabethguillemette8632 They are not "equally" bad, that's a dull-witted assertion.
@@harlenkelly7331 What I mean bu this is that we shouldn't account for one party's actions, then let the other party get away scot free. While both parties can do amazing things, we can't just ignore their wrongdoings. To call that assertion "dull-witted" is just like saying that it's okay for the "top student" to cheat and to not be penalized for it, while scrutinizing only the other one that was cheating.
Why is it okay for one to get away with one thing, but not the other for the same mistake?
@Will Smith Is this one directed towards me?
@@elizabethguillemette8632 Saying both parties are equally bad is an inaccurate, demonstrably false statement.
It's analogous to stating that the US was equally bad when it fought against germany during ww2.
Currently searching for one comment that specifically states: “You know what, you’ve convinced me I was wrong.”
What if the wording is different? Is it then unacceptable?
It will never happen for either side
You know what, you've convinced me I was wrong.
"You know what,you've convinced me I was wrong." Are you satisfied now?(Tbh,I was not convinced,at all)
You know what , you're convinced me i was wrong
I'm a moderate republican and actually find this video pretty truthful. But really Vox, thats a ballsy title and you know it.
Jack Hutchison but the republicans have truly broken politics. Though it seems to be working well for them so far. So expect to see an extreme democrat nominee next election cycle.
title is 100% true, republicans pissed in the pool and now everyone is swimming in it
Yeah I agree the way they put out the title is off-putting, not a good way to convince someone of their argument. Thats what I don't like about a lot of liberals is they have a tendency to be smug.
Well in order to fix what is broken...u have to admit it
YouCanCallMeReTro You can only be smug when you’re right about something. Stop being on the wrong side of history and you can be smug too.
America’s politics, sadly, is f**ked up. Very sad.
Prince Off Duty still better than lots of other countries.
Roadkill Christian okay and? That doesn’t mean we can’t improve?
@@confidentchristian1989 Maybe better than Pakistani politics, yes.
If only we were more like Norway...
@@amehwican I'm norwegian, and it's not like Norway politics are perfect. I get daily aneurysms because of how our politicians love to waste tax money.
Admit it. Admit it memes are getting old.
Yeah
"Have you ever watched someone's soul wither away?"
Bold of you to assume that Mitch McConnell ever had a soul.
I thought kermit the frog never had a soul so yes, its bold to assume mconnel ever had a soul
double chin turtle dance haha
That kind of Evil Turtle is soulless. 🐢
@Benjamin Ahlers dood no one has a sole it's made up, like Santa Claus.
Every human owns a soul
Country over party, people. Country over party.
FOR KING AND COUNTRY!
Exactly can we deport all the anti americans
FOR HONOR AND GLORY!!!
Nathan Kirby but they were born here so you can’t Nathan go to bed
Republicans want to destroy the United States, so voting against them is putting the country first.
4:45 so they preemptively said that they would go against him, no matter what policy he proposes. Regardless whether the policy in question would improve the lives of US citizens. As long as it obstructs the success of their competitors, they will oppose it. No for the sake of no.
They followed this up by saying the Dems should have worked with Trump when he won. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing.
Mitch, tRump, Graham, nd others who steal from the poor to give to the rich are bound for HELL.
Hello, people who clicked “Newest First”! Here, have a virtual cookie 🍪.
Aww thanks! I love you.
thanks! have a virtual donut in exchange 🍩
we all clicked newest first after we saw 6:33 lol
nice to see something other than a baseless opinion reaming the other side for being a different color. thanks.
The longer I follow American politics, the more apparent it becomes to me that a two-party system combined with an antiquated electoral system is a deadly combination. In a multi-party system, even in democracies where polarization occurs, younger generations tend to vote out establishment parties in favour of new ones that with time enter the political mainstream and assume positions of power. The system is more self-regulating and the voters less entrenched. In certain elections it's not infrequent to vote for candidates hailing from different parties, e.g. an A party mayor, a B party city councillor and a C party member to a regional government for example. In a multi-party system someone like Sanders would probably be able to introduce some of his policies decades ago as part of a junior coalition party. Cruz and the more moderate Republicans like Flake or Murkowski wouldn't even be in the same party.
People truly don't realize how popular split-ticket voting is and how Americans used to check a box on their ballot that would vote for everyone running under the Republican party or everyone running under Democratic party. So glad we grew away from that and have slowly seen the # of Independent voters becoming the largest group in modern times!
It's cause in a 2 party system, there's a bigger opportunity for polarization. Usually in countries with multi party system judges the candidates individually
America's problem goes deeper than 2-party politics and a lousy electoral system. 1) Religionism, as distinct from religion. 2) Impaired educational system. 3) Protection of hate speech and LIES. 4) A tradition of anti-intellectualism, 5) Undue reverence for wealth and celebrity. I could go on, but the basic point is an apathetic, poorly-informed population, in which only the fearful, bigoted, blaming haters have any commitment to voting.
I suggest you check out CPG Grey`s videos about election, they explain everything that is wrong in this system and how it can be fixed!
@@seb_5969 The American electoral system cannot be fixed from within the system because both parties in power want the system to remain this way.
The real problem is issues like climate change, mask wearing, the national debt, have become polarized.
They didn't 'become' polarized. The side pushing for all of them have done so from the start because they have a radical agenda, and must invent crisis to garnish greater control in order to reach it. It has always been polarized as such between the authoritarians and those who've bought into their misinformation, and the free thinkers with the capacity to critically analyze rather than simply swallowing a narrative, and instead of buying into it, simply want to preserve their freedom and live their lives. There was never a way for it to be anything BUT polarized.
Like, just wear a mask, reduce your carbon input, and start switching over to a debit card. It’s not that hard to let go of the forced politics in it
very true
@@hbk6425 why’d you delete the comment?
@@Jessica-eo5hg I deleted no comment, and the ones I remember are still here... though UA-cam has occasionally messed things up when I edit things for grammar or the like, and it's possible I forgot one. Which are you referring to?
**Laughs in not American**
Lol me
You guys are so lucky!
@@memelgaming idk maybe
Liberal
Chuckles
@Flyer Killer Actually, centrist.
This is the reason why there needs to be term limits on every political office
Yeah the title sucks, but the argument is extremely convincing to me. These implicit rules in politics are being broken. We have to hold the leaders breaking them accountable.
So easy to brainwash
MSklar sit down and talk with a rational conservative. Don’t take a one sided story you found on UA-cam. Get an idea of both sides. I promise you if you listen to both you will become pretty moderate
No rules have been broken. The Republicans have done right by their voters, as they should. I believe this is the "populist revolution" Steve Bannon likes to talk about.
Your not conservative if you agree with this video VOX has done videos defending Antifa this shows how far left they are. This video is nothing but liberal propaganda.
@@thegenericguy8309 Him pointing out the hypocrisy of this video does not prove any point.
If I was Norm Ornstein I wouldn't want people violating Norms either.
I hate you.
Ba dum tiss.
You've won the internet today, man. 🤣🤣🤣
This.
Be honest. We all came for the comments, right?
TheWaterFlipper Jr.
yeah........... it’s hard to read though.
@@primeribgaming2681 Yeah, there's some extreme cringe at times
I didn't intend to, but I always seem to do it anyway.
It's an addiction and I need to stop!
I may even watch the video afterwards.
Probably not, but maybe.
Yep,...paused the Pre-Ad, so they get no viewership cred, lol....ugly lying title was like click-bait.
Admit it. You clicked “Newest First”
Dang it.
Dang it.
Dang it.
Dang it.
Dang it.
To all those criticizing the title of the video, or saying you could say the same of Democrats, you have missed the point. The point of the video is to establish how and why we got to our particular moment in politics. The answer is unequivocally the Republican party's strategy since 2009. If you paid attention, the video actually demonstrates that the Republicans are to blame by a significant increase in intransigent party politics, which is clearly responded to by the Democrats. This is a video demonstrating that the "both sides" narrative is false. To say in response "both sides" is basically ignoring the facts, plugging your ears and shouting: "nuh-uh!" You are ignorantly perpetuating the reasons we got here in the first place.
Face fact, Republicans have rejected compromise in a system that is founded upon compromise. The Republican party HAS broken US politics, and possibly our republic, we shall see.
I agree that Republicans broke it. But we have to hold both sides accountable to fix it. We can’t just allow the left to justify resorting to the same tactics by saying “well they started it”
But all and all...I’ll say that this was a well argued and fair video.
@@imagoblack At this point, I am not convinced there is anything the Democrats, or the political Left can do. The Republicans have basically shut real discourse down. People are not talking across the aisle, and recent events show there is little point for the Democrats to reach out or to trust Republicans when they do. There is little Congressional or Senatorial Democrats can do other than responding in kind. Capitulation doesn't help anyone. Liberal and progressive voters have kept electing their candidates. Ultimately the burden to fix this falls to conservatives. Conservatives across the country need to reexamine their values and where it has brought them. Conservatives will have to take steps to come to the table again. A good start would be to stop running interference for Trump and seriously entertain charges.
You bring up a great point, it's going to take conservatives with conservative values to fix this. The politicians have basically done anything for power and unfortunately a large part of their constituents have fallen in line. They'll ignore a man cheating on his pregnant wife as their representative as long as he's doing things for them. We need good wholesome people on both sides to say anything for power isn't acceptable
@DefiantBoris You're operating from some faulty assumption here. The Second Amendment wasn't a political issue at all, for either "side" until the late 1960s (and really not an issue if any significance until the 1980s). Asking if Democrats have always been in favor of repealing the Second Amendment is like asking how George Washington responded to people asking the feds to regulate Facebook.
@DefiantBoris What? How are liberals against the whole of the constitution cause they seem to not like one amendment? Have you even actually read the whole of the constitution or does it start and stop at 2?
This video is too great for such a bad title that will make conservatives miss the point and consider this just more liberal propaganda.
The data doesn't define liberal or conservative or describe the philosophy at all. You can't infer anything from the graph if the constructs/measures aren't defined properly. This video is actual liberal propaganda.
@@candelario4288 The website clearly describes how it aquires the data, including linking to a legacy website. How do I know this? I read your link. What did you do? Find page for liberal or conservative?
@@prestont.6669 Could you point me to where in the legacy website or the "Spatial Models of Parliamentary Voting" (which is where the DW-NOMINATE model and method of analysis comes from) is the definition of the political philosophy? because I read it and couldn't find it.
@@prestont.6669 The graph that carlos interprets has nothing to do with what he is saying. His analysis is technically invalid. I've watched the video 3 times now and nowhere in the actual chart does it say that it is scored based on how extreme or moderate you are. It says it is scored on how liberal and conservative you are (undefined) and on differences within the political parties over slavery, currency, nativism, civil rights, and lifestyle issues during periods of American history.
@@candelario4288 say that you are right. how can you make the jump to calling it liberal propaganda? just curious whether you are drawing that conclusion from your own assumptions or if you can actually support that with something solid. also, one of the major points in the video had nothing to do with any charts. the fact is, Republicans will literally block bills just because of the people presenting them (Obama). they also created a "medicare" bill behind closed doors, and tried to pass said bill behind closed doors, without even letting Democrats see it. this is obviously bad for democracy. compromise is the lifeblood of democracy. I think addressing this kind of behavior is the crux of the video.
Big money in politics - if anything - broke American politics.
This. For someone outside of America, the US politics system looks a lot closer to a plutocracy than a democracy.
Hojin Cho
Coming from someone in the US, that’s exactly what it is.
If you can’t aggressively push your agenda & push others away, no matter how good your policies are, you are dead in the water. (Bernie.)
If you can aggressively yell whatever you have to say & directly call others out, you thrive. (Trump & Biden.)
Wanna hear a joke?
What is the most sucessfull mercenary company in the world? US Military
Aight, I see myself out
You bet
It's almost like having an independent 3rd party president would be a good compromise
Colombia: *quietly* dont...
2050 ill run ok u vote?
please dont for gods sake🙏🙏🙏🙏
That'd be great! But first we need to replace First Past the Post so that having more than two parties is possible.
WTA or FPTP voting ruins 3rd party candidates
"Ronald Regan welcome to the resistance" lol
Thanks for using the two-dimensional political spectrum. I'm sick of talk of a one dimensional "right-left" dichotomy.
@@DiscoDumpTruck The 2-d spectrum is also super cool for pointing out just how freaking right-wing the Democrats are.
Hahaha, you're not wrong. I wonder if the best representation would be some kind of circle. Like, is it possible to become so liberal that you end up mirroring the ultra far right? Like Stalin did with the communist movements in the twentieth century? That might reinforce the idea that extremism on either side just ends up being totalitarian, and the only true freedom is centrism.
@@DiscoDumpTruck For that matter, it seems more reasonable to do away with spectrums, and just get people to understand political ideologies (no more conflating conservatism and classical liberalism, please!).
Reagan would be considered a centrist or even liberal by the present Republican party.
And the media wonder why people prefer to get their news from late night comedians.
It's great they can bypass the forced semblance of neutrality by humor. If someone acts irrationally making fun of them is easy and that hits the republicans harder than the democrats.
@@phillip7731 Trevor Noah is great
but i wonder why western media are allowed to give opinions on their news/articles. their job is just to give facts, not opinions.
@@pyrofestimo At least in the United States, they have the right to say almost anything they want. A news station actually went to court for the right to lie to their viewers.
John Oliver is king
Admit it. There is an unhealthy combination of politics and entertainment.
ikr
Truth
Gotta admit, from Canada, the USA IS entertaining. lol! I feel for them.
Admit it. You’re bored so you’re just looking through the comments.