How American conservatives turned against the vaccine
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President Donald Trump presided over the fastest vaccine development process in history, leading to abundant, free vaccines in the US by the spring of 2021. Although the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines haven’t been able to stop transmission of the virus, they have been highly effective against hospitalization and death, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and rendering the majority of new Covid-19 deaths preventable.
Trump has received three doses of the vaccine. But many of his most dedicated supporters have refused, and many have died as a result. Why? Obvious culprits include misinformation on social media and Fox News and the election of Joe Biden, which placed a Democrat at the top of the US government throughout the vaccine distribution period. But if you look closely at the data, you’ll see that vaccine-hesitant conservatives largely made up their mind well before the vaccines were available and before Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.
To understand why, I took a deep dive into the data, interviewed researchers, and spoke to people who lost loved ones to preventable severe Covid-19 infections. What I found is a stark cautionary tale for the country and for Republican political elites. Partisan polarization takes on a life of its own; once set into motion it’s nearly impossible to stop, even when the fallout is immense and irreparable.
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I was curious how some other countries were able to achieve extremely high vaccination rates and came across Portugal, where 91% of the population has completed their vaccinations, compared to 64% in the US. (Note: the definition of “fully vaccinated” is shifting as the evolving virus makes boosters increasingly important!)
Portugal’s strategy was, in part, to give the vaccine effort a non-political face: a military officer named Henrique Gouveia e Melo. He’s very tall, wears a combat uniform everywhere he goes, and enforced a strictly non-political communications strategy. He approached the vaccine effort like a military mission and by all accounts, gained the trust of the nation. It certainly wasn’t the only factor in Portugal’s success, but it made me wonder whether a military-led approach could have helped reduce polarization in the US.
Let me know what you think in the comments below.
-Joss
That sounds like a great idea, especially considering the bizarre fetishisation of the military in the USA 🇺🇸
not in Indonesia 🗿
Idk, I think many people with their biases towards the vaccine and all its boosters would cause distrust to increase and they would use it to further indoctrinate people into their ideals.
@@kilgoretrout413 Exactly. It would have worked in the UK too I think
Ah yes, the unpolitical military lol.
I rather think that the military guy appealed to exact those people who were hesitant when some gov suit told them to get vacced. The rest (that thinks of the military as politicized, and not in a good way) gets the vaccine anyway.
Never understood how in the USA people listened more to politicians and conspiracy theorists rather then doctors.
I asked someone this (not going to mention who) and in their mind it was because Trump was looking out for them while Fauci/pharmaceuticals just wanted to make a profit off of the pandemic
Which caught me off guard because 1. It would be difficult for Fauci to pay doctors worldwide just to say that the pandemic is life threatening and that people should get tested and vaccinated
2. Most testing and vaccinations were free
well, the short answer is capitalism as an ideology. people support brands that advertise in a way that resonates with them. politicians and conspiracy theorists are pure marketing, shifting their message constantly in order to be appealing to people who want to be appealed to. doctors say things people do not want to hear, and politicians who say things people do not want to hear tend to have smaller audiences. today.... products, health, politics, all of them are being run from the same playbook because people respond to the same messages and techniques regardless of the domain.
this is also why so much of the anti-vax stuff is wrapped up with anti-communism/anti-socialism rhetoric...
Yep, the internet can be terrible sometimes
You mean the highest paid taxpayer employee Dr. Fauci? Yes there is no reason why I would not want to listen to him
@@EB-du3vh Dr. Fauci had a pretty good word on Covid
My parents (who are very right leaning) got the vaccine before it was required by either of their jobs. They started being "anti Vax" once they realised the vaccine wouldn't be the end of masks, social distancing, online schooling, etc.
Trust in health institutions is declining. Even the WHO had to admit they intentionally lie to keep peace among different countries.
@@india-curry mandates are a terrible idea. I guess we could just become an authoritarian state lol. That sounds like a good reason to vaccinate.
@@india-curry Im not disagreeing that Vaccines are important and I agree they are only the first step. I'm just giving the perspective of a more right wing voter
@@kw2080 vaccines 💉 aren’t a miracle drug . It only minimizes the chance of severely reaction to the virus.
It doesn’t stop it completely.
You have this misconception that it’s a miracle drug
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu you are probably right, for the first 3 months after vaccine. After that, the effectiveness drops rapidly. I just wish media and Biden were honest. Sadly, the more authoritarian the government, the less honest.
if we hadn't treated covid as a political issue instead of the health issue it really is, we really would've gotten a lot more done by now
"we"
You can say that about most problems in the US. I.e. mental health treatment, drug abuse, etc
There are people out there that avoid the vaccine because it's distributed under Biden, even though it was created under Trump. And it shouldn't even matter since it would be the same people working on the vaccine but people trust their parties on medical advice more than their doctors.
This is one thing I appreciated & respected here in Australia. Our State governments were all taking their lead from the relevant Department of Health. In Victoria at the height of our lockdowns there was a daily press conference where qualified health officials would update on the current situation with all the data from the previous day. Yes there was still a political side to it, but overall it was a unified message
@@m0nm0n How long was Melbourne in lockdown?
I feel like this is just one example of the main reason why I despise modern politics. It has become an Us vs Them thing. It no longer matters what your qualifications are, your experience, your plans or even what kind of person you are. Now all you have to do is say the other side is bad and “they” want to keep you down and you’ll get a significant amount of the vote which can turn the tides for you. Now, everything becomes politicized and that makes people on both sides dumber because they think with emotions rather than their brain.
Around 7 years ago, life in general seems so peaceful and normal compared to now.
Modern American Politics*
@@DarkMoonAngel49 And 10yrs ago it seemed like we were at the start of a new more enlightened era where people were coming closer together, listening rather than arguing & becoming more inclusive/accepting. But of course the politicians couldn’t let that continue as divided the public is easy to control but united…we call the shots. So they’ve done everything possible to divide us on every topic possible & to encourage hatred/distrust on all sides….during the time when we needed unity & a sense of community the most.
I don't obey politicians, I obey my beliefs. The illness exists, I avoid unnecesary meetings and crowded queues and use masks. But I won't inoculate any experimental thing in my body. I don't believe media, I listen to my beliefs and media can't change my mind because of fear.
@@mariajimenezesmiapodo1958 Well, it's like someone much smarter than me said. "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it." We have differing viewpoints sir and/or madame, but I wish you the best of health
It takes a strong person to admit they were wrong on the vaccine. Weaponising the vaccine as a political tool representing 'oppression' etc. I wish everyone well and stay safe in this pandemic time! 😇
Strong or dying
@@mickey8643 precisely. Sometimes lessons are hard ones, so them admitting their mistakes helps educate others to not fall in the same trap.
@@jamesgreen4212 Like how we never got a Spore 2 so until we do EA needs to know we mean business
The vaccine has most definitely been used as an oppressive tool. That doesn’t mean the vaccine doesn’t work lol
@@EB-du3vh its both.
I lost my dad to Covid and I’m just 18. I told him many times to get the vaccine, but he was skewed by political views. It hurts a lot to see him gone. Im sorry if you rely on your news station to tell you what’s best for you. It is your decision. Don’t come to a decision and never look back. Stay open minded. Think about those around you. Life is precious
Please accept my most sincere condolences on your dad's passing. I send cyberhugs to you and your family. 😪💔💐🌈🌠
I’m sorry for your loss. I can’t even imagine what that would feel like.
Only social media news got it. Thanks for the post!
So sorry this happened to your father. Those who propagate misinformation and disinformation have a lot to answer for after the last two years especially. Every solitary post discrediting the vaccine, saying it doesn't work, saying it has microchips, saying it alters your DNA, obfuscating experts, gaslighting by pointing to monetary interest in lieu of the data, saying that no long term studies are available despite the fact that we have zero logical reason to assume that a vaccine whose ingredients are gone from the body after a month have any possibility of having such long term side effects, and claiming the vaccine is untested despite millions of sample data points - all of those posts, comments, threads, memes ultimately ended the life of innocent people by proxy. It's wrong, and people should be held accountable for spreading anti-science nonsense.
@@VesperAegis how much did big pharma pay you?
Its really disturbing that facts and medicine have been somehow integrated into political beliefs
TV medicine and actual science and facts didn't go hand in hand.
That's actually nothing new. There was an anti-mask movement in 1918 for the "spanish" flu, and an anti-vax campaign during the polio epidemic in 1954. None of this is new, it's just sad.
@@DaemonJax very few are anti mask n vax. You are free to. No one is stopping you. Many people have all their vaxes but this one. Chill.
trust lost
Well when statistics are manipulated for political reason trust goes out the window
“There are two diametrically opposed views of what America should be like in in the world.” Wow. This is it.
kinda ignores the whole voting system disaster the USA is dealing with
There should be way more parties for healthier, more intellectual conduct in congress
Too bad the man did not go ahead and elaborate on exactly what he believed those two visions are
@@erichall7068 It basically revolves around two froms of liberalism and how those two forms see the role of government. Republicans tend to see the biggest threat to a liberal society coming from government power. This is what makes libertarians and social conservatives such good bedfellows. Libertarians want to minimize government influence and social conservatives want to preserve traditional values, which include limited government. Democrats tend to see the biggest threat to a liberal society as coming from the concentration of private power, inequality, and perceived inequities, and are willing to use government as a tool to address those things. This is what makes left leaning liberals succeptable to progressivism and socialism. Our politics polarized when the political discourse expanded beyond left and right leaning liberals trying to maximize equality and equity with the minimum amount of government.
Which is why you should split it up. Everybody's happy
Jesus this is just depressing. Well done, Vox. I hope we could get this to those who need to see this.
Those people don't care about learning since they're so arrogant and think they're so much smarter than real experts, that this video won't change their mind.
@@50jakecs who are these "people"?
Those who disagree with you? Or want to choose their own health ?
@@carpo719 dimwitted conservatives like you 👍
I hesitate to even call them “people” to be honest.
@@charlesmiv3842 Parasites, plague rats is more accurate
@@charlesmiv3842 actually im a liberal. And folks like you are embarrassing to those who are truly liberal.
You're assuming. Know what that means?
Yup
Joss Fong is an American hero whose hard work in journalism is saving lives through dispelling misinformation. I look up to her so much because of these videos.
@@wilmarkjohnatty4924 If you aren't a bot comment then you're incredibly detached from reality and projecting beyond belief.
@@wilmarkjohnatty4924 It's clear you don't know anyone that works in an ICU, ask any nurse or doctor that worked through the peak of covid how many people BEGGED for the vaccine before going under intubation and were told thats now how that works.
I'm more surprised we didn't have a million comments in here gushing over her good looks, like in previous Vox videos.
I almost died in Golden Gate Park with COVID Delta while homeless. The most extreme hallucinations. The worst aches and pains. I couldn't make it to the hospital. Nobody would help me. I had no phone to call for help. I am so lucky that wasn't the end. I was vaxed and boosted. If I hadn't been I would be dead.
Is this a joke?
I hope you are in much better circumstances
@@tsarina24honolulu87 no it's not a joke. That's a simple, tame version of what happened. In reality the details were even worse.
@@australianaliens5942 I am. I live in Santa Rosa. I have my own place, I'm going to school to be a licensed clinician for drug counseling. I never thought I could dig myself out of the hole of opiate addiction and homelessness. And to be honest. I couldn't do it alone. I went to jail and then drug rehabilitation. My family helped me pay for rehab. I go to NA meetings. Getting out of a situation like that is a group effort that requires; family, professional and non-professional help.
@@seanaugagnon6383 most people who didn't get the vax lived. It was underlying conditions and obesity
Great data and message. Just want to mention that I absolutely love the way physical charts are used.
Beautifully produced!
Data storytelling at its best! The use of overlays and marking the graphs added a lot.
she did her homework i absolutley love it
Yes, beautiful data visualisation, but the data itself is not correct
10/10. Clear, concise, brilliant work. This video sets a benchmark.
This was so incredibly well researched and presented, I'd tip my hat many times over to the team who worked on this.
They left out many factors including the mutations, the reduction in efficacy of the vaccine, and the fact that many liberals also don't want to take the shot. We know at this point it's about profits.
Never let a crisis go to waste
@@carpo719 It's already on the budget, so you really can't do anything about it.
@@carpo719
1. Mutations: They talked about the delta wave and how there were less deaths among vaccinated people. Did you watch the video?
2. Reduction of efficacy of the vaccine: No vaccine is 100% effective. Wearing a seatbelt doesn't guarantee that you survive a car accident. But you should still wear a seat belt and you should still get vaccinated. It's all about mitigating risk for yourself and in the case of the vaccine, mitigating the risk for others as well.
3. Many liberals also don't want to take the shot: The point of the video is that vaccine hesitancy is politically polarized with Republicans being more likely to be unvaccinated. Who ever said that every liberal wants to get vaccinated, in the video or elsewhere?
@@Diabledude3344 She said the "risk". This is not the same as just multiplying together the data. One of the reasons misinformation is so effective is because people like you don't have a clue how data is calculated, and think your entirely wrong opinion is worth chiming in about.
@@sai7913 you people keep trying to compare a seat belt to a chemical weapon. False equivalencies do not support facts.
As someone from New Zealand I think I can speak for many people who live elsewhere where the narrative of the US being an amazing country and a world leader was shattered by the handling of Covid it was just astonishing how divided the people were on the topics surrounding the virus. It was honestly very sad to watch
It was hard to live through as well. I live in an upscale community with highly educated residents and still there were many resistant people. Those of us who understood the health risks were constantly urging others to talk to their doctors and health care professionals rather than what their news station, favorite blog or podcast was telling them. I find it astounding that people would sacrifice their life and health for a political belief when factual hard science was urging vaccination...sigh!
a lot of people trusted leadership to tell them what to do. But leadership said mixed things. I think they killed the people who passed away.
All the hostility, censorship, and complete & utter lack of transparency has been sad. But that shouldn't have been surprising.
Jacinda Ardern and Dan Andrews were horrible and they've both quit!
It started quite a while back with Obama.
People just didn't notice.
2 things stand out to me
1 the repulican philosophy is based on the idea of more freedom always is better. They see the avoidance of vaccinations as a practice of that philosophy.
2 the two party system is toxic and flawed. The media and the algorythms fostered an "us vs them" mentality among the two dominant parties. Skepticism is healthy, but people on both sides felt validated in their beliefs due to how difficult it was to communicate with the opposing side
It is not the avoidance of vaccinations. Its the avoidance of being force vaccinated. Those who pushed back against this use of force are more likely to looking for additional reasons to refuse it, such as investigating the vaccine itself, leading them to learn about some valid concerns, and a lot of conspiracy theory. These things dont just cover the COVID vaccines, but all vaccines in general. This is why Trump in the video specifically says "its your choice if you want to get vaccinated or not, but you should do it! I did it!".
Aside from the great content, I am floored by the creative direction on this video.
It is extremely difficult to create something captivating without using lots of graphics. The use of projector transparency film is genius and the framing of the video calls is amazing too. This video has so much depth of information and clear visual information. Bravo. Really. Great work!
but doesn't cure cov
@Done fedup huh? What does the creative direction have to do with your comment? Take some time to recognize the little, seemingly unimportant, things in life. Life is all about perspective. Chances are, we agree on 80% of everything... We just might not agree on how to get there. It takes too much energy to get worked up about differences in opinions. Instead, I chose to compliment where I can. And to you, I applaud your passion for finding the solution that works for you. I hope you find what you're searching for.
I really agree with the clever use of transparencies to illustrate the points being made. I enjoyed that part of it.
Personally though I can't stand when they show a laptop or phone screen of an interview. It makes me think that they're not tech savvy enough to record the screen properly. I get that it's a design decision here, but that's not always the case. It's like holding a microphone up to a speaker instead of just getting the actual recording. Plus, makes me feel like I'm watching an ad for Apple.
But that's just me. Great video overall.
Republicans are DOOMED...the next pandemic will whipe them out. lol
This is the comment I came to write. Glad to see others feel the same way
The problem with this video is that it will never reach the ones it needs to the most, as shown in this very video, the ones that it needs to reach the most only watch Fox News and are stuck in social media echo chambers. It's a frustrating situation for society as a whole. I'm not even American, but this is happening to a lesser extent across the globe, and in contexts beyond just vaccination.
I don't think this video is trying to reach anti-vaxxers and change their minds. It seemed to me that it's just trying to explain what's going on.
The sad part is you don't realize that you too are stuck in an echo chamber
I know not in time anyway because they are allready vaccinated with omnicron...oh right...."Omnicron is the best vaccine we have" Bill Gates. Oh but he was talking about Africa so I guess that doesn't count./
Nothing will reach them, it’s a matter of pride at this point
@@JasonBoyce Reach Who? You? So natural (recovery) immunity is better than vaccine immunity AND omincron is a better transmitter of the vaccine and similar in detriment SO maybe if you stop MANDATEING people to do it then......they wouldn't be so adverse to it.....PRIDE...your the one with the pride problem.
This is really interesting data, and it aligns with my experience. Most of the people I've spoken to who are either vaccine hesitant, or even are vaccinated but lean conservative poltically, have at some point said to me that they thought the severity and/or death counts of the virus were overblown.
"Our disinformation program will be complete when everything the american public believes is a lie"-William Casey, former director of cia.The fact that a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate is enough for govts to justify forcing vaccine on us w/o long term data on health effects and pharma companies are exempted by the govt from being sued or held liable should raise massive red flags. This is one of the biggest scams/crimes pulled against humanity under the guise of public safety. World govts are colluding together at the expense of their own citizens to usher in new world order. New world order led by obama and pope francis is coming. America is the last major bastion of freedom standing in their way to fulfill their one world govt agenda. America will be under martial law from this covid agenda and will be invaded by russia and china in near future. Repent and seek jesus christ for salvation.
@@daebak7370 Covid has a lower survival rate than 99.7%.
@@NeonNotch it's 95.5% when you include the elderly population, but when you dont thats where you get the 99.7%
Death is not the only outcome of covid. There are a very high number of long haulers that suffer permanent respiratory disorders and other ailments.
@@paddlefaster it is not a "very high number" its actually less than 1%
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public and their willingness to believe anything that feeds into their fears.
Also never underestimate a politician and their willingness to utilise anything to gain power.
What a great piece of data journalism. It has it all: correct choice of idioms, no nonsense glyphs, correct naming of the axis, animations where they make sense. Great work! The only thing I am not sure about is how much blue and red are colorblind friendly, but it clearly made sense to choose them.
At least, it is not Green and red which is the worst combinaison for colorblind
Blue and red are actually pretty ok for color blindness. The most prevalent form of color blindness is red-green and the next common one is green-blue. I looked it up a while ago when designing diagrams.
Seconded. But yes, maybe the D and R blips on the chart could be different shapes, for the sake of colour-blind people.
@@Stevie-J Yeah, my broken watch show the correct time twice a day, every day! time is a lie!!
@@Stevie-J actual covid infection is still 30x more likely to lead to myocarditis than the vaccines; and the form from actual infection is much harder to treat as well.
My mum has a childhood friend whose parents decided not to vaccinate her against polio, and shure enough, she got polio as a result of being unvaccinated. Now, she lives in a wheelchair, something that was completely avoidable.
"She got it and now lives in a wheel chair" do you mean she got the vaccine or what
I get my polio booster every 6 months.
Yeah covid ain’t polio my dude
@@JupiterVortex She got polio. That is unclear grammar though.
@@userlog2474 so she got polio because of no vaccine?
This killed my father, Facebook and Fox News killed my Dad.
I feel sad that these people got caught up in politics and lost their lives because of it, it’s easy to mock them and make fun of them, but it’s sad they got caught up in other peoples agendas.
I respect him even though I probably disagree with him on a few political things, I respect him for admitting that he’s wrong and changed his mind instead of doubling down. He just got caught up in politics, Hope he’s doing well.
So many are dying now. All cause mortality is up 14 percent. Let's just hope the don't take anymore shots. This is going to be a long sad road of self pity and denial for most of them
As someone who is a printer, this was an amazing video. Instead of judging and mindless berating, you had proper data and research about the polarizing beliefs of both sides of the spectrum and delivered that in an effective way. Props to you, Vox!
- From the UAE
she doesn't list any of the reasons i wouldn't take it
@@donefedup2208 So go ahead. You list them. Let the public decide how universal your reasons are. Are these reasons others can safely abide by? Or are these personal reasons, with little safe application for others. Go ahead! No one is stopping you! State your reasons!
Why is it that society by large accepts that a mother can end the life of her baby under the my body my choice argument but won't acceot the decision of an individual who doesn't want a particular drug even though it doesn't lead to the direct, or immediate, death of another.
@@bard1250 good question
@@AnneEloiseOfCNY They are personal. Because getting a vaccine is a *personal health decision!*
Your presentation was phenomenal. Your ability to restrain yourself and go very neutral in your assessment is quite amazing. I’m not sure I could have done the same. This is easily my favorite video from Vox.
god help you if you ever have to talk to someone who disagrees with you.
In performing scientific studies they should remain neutral even if the topic is triggering to some. It should make no difference what they think only what the data can show. That is how science works. I would have preferred that instead of democrat or republican they should have did the study based on liberal or conservative beliefs and every position taken before the vaccine was released, before the election and after the election and the positions taken then by all the media and leading politicians. It would not necessarily change the data, but might show why some made the decisions that they made. It may well be nothing to do with their political affiliation but the way it was handled by the ones who try to influence us. All of them in power or aspiring to power at the time not just the president and a few radio anchors. She did not for instance include the CBS anchors and a certain Senator who proclaimed that they would never take the vaccine because it came out too quickly to be safe. Then after the election did an about face and acted as if they supported the vaccine all along. that had alot to do with the decisions people made...in my opinion but I would like to see data on that. It may be enlightening.
@@harrisonkane1288 copium overload there, chief
@@harrisonkane1288 god isn't real
7/8 of the claims that republicans said are true were (and vox is saying are false) have been proven true in pfizers latest document dump, that they were attempting to have hidden for 75 years.
Political polarization is taking American lives. Truly horrible.
And yet, it’s a case study on survival of the fittest. Using a brain is keeping the vaxxed alive. Choosing to be unvaxxed is a choice which still kills 300 people in America each day. The best part of it is - those dying are the unvaxxed BY CHOICE. Politics is purging a group of people. I say, “Let them eat cake!”
Vaccine are bad because harmful stuff in those vaccines and a chance of that's high
Political parties are just illusion of choice
I remember telling my dad the science of how vaccines worked way back when the pandemic first hit bc his Doc told him he needed the Shingles shot. He's very Republican, but I think he got the COVID shot bc I told him the science before the news cycle really started to vilify it. Sadly, he's super wary of *all* vaccines now. I can only hope this situation doesn't devolve into something worse.
Send him this video
I thought it was dems saying they wouldn't get the vaccine if it was released under Trump?
Whatever science you told him about vaccines at the start of the pandemic is completely inapplicable to covid "vaccines". mRNA shots aren't vaccines. The CDC literally had to change the definition of vaccine before they could start using that term to describe the COVID shots
I'm a biomedical scientist. These last 2+ years have been very frustrating to me and my colleagues -_-
Doctors and medical scientists who don't work for a pharma don't gain any benefits from you getting the vaccines they advertise or the precautionary actions you can take. Just, please, listen to them...
keep up the great work 😃
@@Diabledude3344 What does that have to do with anything? Firstly, this doesn’t allege that anyone is doing that, just there are different payouts for different diagnoses (which seems weird to me, why not pay out by the cost of the diagnostic procedures?, but hey, I don’t run Medicare, I am sure they understand the system much better than me). But they aren’t saying this is actually happening.
But let’s for argument say that the more immoral hospitals are doing this sometimes, what does that have to do with them encouraging you to get a vaccine? How is the hospital making profits from misdiagnosing you linked to them encouraging you to get a vaccine? The vaccine is going to make it less likely for you to get covid (or have no effect if you don’t believe in vaccines) thus reducing their profits!
@@Diabledude3344 I think you misunderstand what is being described in the words you quoted. According to that quote they get more money for “diagnosis” of you having Covid, not for the vaccine, either talking about it or giving it. Perhaps there was part of the article you didn’t quote that talks about the vaccine?
@@Diabledude3344 Incorrect
@@Diabledude3344 The hospitals may see more money from COVID deaths, yes. However, the doctors and nurses don't.
loving the use of physical props for graphs, really elevates these videos
That's that.
Exactly
caterina, Pois é !
Yes! I'm a visual learner and the graphs were very helpful.
@@katwil89 no such this as a “visual learner”
In my state, Illinois, it was the liberal AFT teachers union that resisted required vaccination and with lawsuits. So it was not just conservatives as this article mentioned.
I mean you shouldn’t force people to be vaccinated
@@raptorfromthe6ix833 And they didnt...
@@modder3855Not physically, but in every other way it was.
“The only thing more frustrating than slanderers are those foolish enough to listen to them.”
- Criss Jami
This is fantastic jounalism, well done Joss.
It’s only good journalism if it pushes activism that libs like.
It misses the mark. It's media that is the problem. Not conservatives
@@Iceify_ lol they have the numbers and you don't cry copium kitty
@@carpo719 they mention that in the video
@@carpo719 conservative media
Flipping the transparent bar graph to show the reliance among the unvaccinated on Fox News and social media was a brilliant choice. Bravo 👏👏 👏
The way actual, physical graphs were used in this video was simply mesmerizing!
I don't remember anyone calling COVID 19 the "Trump virus".
I do recall repubs callin anythin Obama did Obama-X tho.
i think there might have been a couple people that did it like once or twice, but it definitely wasn't a whole thing
This is a masterclass in how you use charts effectively.
The papers look so clean
Only thing I'd argue is that bars should have both differing pattern and color, as it helps for those with color blindness or visual impairments.
But I agree, it was really really well presented, couldn't have done it better myself.
I remember how excessively concerned the US was about Ebola because supposedly Africa wasn't capable of taking care of itself. Now look who's actually pathetically bad at saving their own people.
TANJIM PURNO YOU TOOOK IT TOO FAR
@@oldshampoono the American people have taken it too far.
I will devil’s advocate and ask what is the fatality rate for Ebola vs Covid?
@@hs5312 the fatality rate for ebola is 50%. Much worse than Covid.
@@hs5312 Ebola is way way way way way less contagious though
Biggest "I told you so", in the history of all former "I told you so's!" ever combined.
Great video. It leaves me with desperation to understand why people believe that the death toll is so exaggerated. In my own experience, this is the most common reason I hear from people in my life and I would love to have some intelligent response.
I agree. I was one of the people that thought that this was overblown, but when life stopped and the knock-on effects it did on my locale and getting Covid as well, that's when I realized it was no joke. All of our household got it but thankfully, it was not grave enough to warrant getting carted to the Hospital. I think for a lot of people, and that's including me, there's this pervading mindset that what doesn't affect you is insignificant. I think that's why there's a lot of people that didn't believe the vaccines would work, until they got the virus as well.
I got hit twice, first by Delta, then by Omicron. And that's even with following all the rules about facemasks and facshields (Here in PH, they require those in tandem), and I'm a stay-at-home guy. But I can say that even with just my first dose, I weathered Omicron much much better than I did from when I got Delta. But alas, even here in PH, antivaxxing started gaining traction. I can only hope that our experiences these past few years will not be buried under a rubble of misinformation.
Well, I knew one person who died of Covid, and he was very old and had health problems already, and since I know a lot of old people one person dying in two full years is actually very low, many others similarly haven't experienced the deaths, and if you don't know where the numbers are coming from or you don't trust the hospitals to be honest when they get additional funding for deaths marked as Covid related, then the numbers might not mean anything to you. Thanks for asking, open conversation is the best way to understand one another
@@human-tk2fo hospitals didn't get extra funding for deaths marked as covid. They got extra funding because the US has the only completely for profit healthcare industry in the developed world. As a result hospitals have streamlined thier care & services so drastically for the past cpl decades that they're literally incapable of coping with anything more than a couple percent fluctuation in patients over the course of a year. Covid created 100‘s of percent increases in patients in a matter of weeks and the whole thing collapsed, that why the got emergency funding. Not because of what a death certificate said. The really sad part of all this is that conservative media & politicians have taken legitimate ire for the greed of pharmaceutical companies & the health industry in general and refocused it towards the actual medicine & health professionals. Because they will NEVER oppose the profits.
The death toll is perceived as exaggerated because everyone watching this video assumes all the Covid death statistics were people on ventilators like the the few cases they highlight here. But the truth is that any death from any cause imaginable was counted as a Covid death even if Covid wasn’t the cause. Death statistics from all the usual suspects like heart disease and cancer went down in proportion to Covid death statistics going up.
@@human-tk2fo You're encapsulating the problem exactly by spreading incorrect statements regarding additional revenue for reporting covid deaths. The US experienced over 1m excess deaths during the pandemic. So what killed all these extra people over standard annual deaths if it wasn't covid?
it's great to see journalism where every claim is complemented with evidence. great video
Journalism having evidence to back up claims is the baseline of competent. I would dare say great journalism looks at the strongest claims and evidences of both sides of a given issue.
For example, Vox highlights the "8 false claims" by polling, and highlights the "false claim" that Covid-19 deaths are exaggerated. Fauci said at the end of 2021 that "If you look at the children who are hospitalized, many of them are hospitalized with Covid as opposed to because of Covid, and what we mean by that - if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for Covid. And they get counted as a Covid-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So, it’s over-counting the number of children who are, quote, ‘hospitalized with Covid,’ as opposed to because of Covid.”
That statement was deemed 'misinformation' and a 'conspiracy theory' for more than a year, and apparently still is a 'false claim' according to Vox's source.
These republicans never heard of this concept called evidence, they think it means facebook memes. Good for them exterminating themselves, win win either way.
@@grapesurgeon Calling a fact a "tired right wing argument" isn't a counterargument, it's a dodge. And you also imply acknowledging reality is "downplay[ing] the pandemic", so you seem to be putting your narrative of the pandemic as more important than the facts on the ground.
I never said things weren't serious, and didn't merit looking at things closely. In fact, I do my best to take things seriously and look at presentations (such as this one from Vox) with the scrutiny and skepticism it deserves.
That was such a naive comment! As if it was simple as that. The content is good but represents only a part of the whole context.
@@rep-vile you're a sociopath but you want people to take your medical advice? 😆 🤣 😂
We are going to be studying the political and sociological ramifications of this pandemic for generations.
For sure.
I'm afraid of living in the political and sociological ramifications of this pandemic...this won't just be some future case study, it will have some serious consequences in the next 5-10 years and beyond
We won't live that long 🤣💯
It will be interesting to see how much the Republican base decreases due to people lost during this pandemic. It can't be good for a political party to lose so many constituents who listened to its directions. This will be a unique data point to this unfortunate series of events.
I don't know about that, the 1918 pandemic doesn't seem to have been studied and understood by this generation. Obviously the medical field did make progress in regards to airborne illnesses, but it seemed the rest of the world forgot that episode ever happened.
See what happens when you're overly reliant on one news source!?!My father once told me that is good to turn to several news stations as your less likely to be conned that way!
Several or ZERO.
The next question should be if the deaths of Republicans due to not getting vaccinated influenced the outcome of this year's election in the US.
The vaccine never should have been politicized. But I knew it would be, even before it was created.
There's literally no debate about the effectiveness, so they waste your time with sensational garbage they read from facebook memes.
If it weren’t so tragic, it’d be hilarious how the Trump base is tearing itself apart because half agree with Trump that the vaccine (his vaccine, as he sees it) works and half don’t.
@@stuiesmb the past 6 years have proven that trumpers care nothing for reality. And no amount of showing them how wrong they are will remotely sway them.
@@rep-vile The vaccine is a form of neoliberal redistribution of wealth. A small number of large companies who have done horrible things in the past who are owned by neoliberal elites like bill gates are getting billions from governments... and the contracts they sign give these companies are large amount of power over countries...
There needs to be an open source vaccine made available or at the very least treatment options need to be made available.
@@ericcartmann I read an article some months ago that the military was creating a vaccine designed to be effective against all strains (except the newly spread omnicron).
That's what happens when you fight a war against reality.
@@Stevie-J Yes, yes! This lies at Fauci's feet!
Hey, maybe realize that medicine is a science. Sometimes, the scientific method of testing means you were initially going in the wrong direction and have to go in the other direction.
That's quite different from politicizing a pandemic, which is the actual issue, but keep blaming the doctor who's worked with presidents on both sides of the aisle for decades and never came under fire until one president decided he'd rather embrace "alternative facts".
@@DamienDrake no, no, fauci cleary said "I am the science". Also, if you really wanna promote science you gotta make sure you censor all the people who say you are wrong as conspiracy theorists, that for sure will further the science.
@@AlphaGamerDelux You are confusing reality with Facebook memes.
@@DamienDrake Are we talking about the same science which gave my aunt bloodclot after a jabb? Or was it "just a coinsidence?"
@@linusp9316 no he's not. Joe Rogan literally had a episode of his podcast removed because he had the doctor who helped create mRNA systems on and he said the vaccines are a joke. They cannot allow people to see that they lied about the virus and the "vaccines". We can't even subpeona pfizer for their data until may 2025! ahahahahha
I’m so sorry to all the families that experienced preventable deaths due to misinformation.
I’m sorry to all the people who haven’t seen the FDA releasing 1200 newly discovered side effects to Pfizer vaccine. Just a couple days ago. Big pharma is getting sued and I’m sorry you got lied to by people who make nice sounding videos but they’re literally lying straight to your face
@@samuelhokanson7560 I got the Pfizer jabs… no side effects lol
@@samuelhokanson7560 let me guess, you got this from your "trusting" most likely singular news source FOX?
@@samuelhokanson7560 My entire family got Pfizer, we'll let you know when we grow a third arm....
@@samuelhokanson7560 Out of curiosity, did you know the side effects of Xeloda??? It's upwards of even more than that, probably in high thousands of sides effects. However it is the drug my grandma took for treatment of her colon cancer. Glad she's here still and the medication worked, just trying to give some perspective.
I'm watching this while my (unvaccinated, multiple-comorbidity, newly anti-vax) mom is having trouble breathing because she has 'pneumonia' and doesn't want a doctor to tell her she has 'c-19'. I might lose a parent because of this misinformation. So frustrating that I can't convince her to see a doctor or get vaccinated.
I bet she uses FB a lot. Thats how a lot of misinformation/paranoia is spread.
Sounds like she has other problems like obesity.
She should be forced to go on a diet in the name of public health.
@@simoncaron6424 not only that but what we eat causes pandemics
Not everything is covid depending on her age she might just have pneumonia or other sickness
Did she end up being okay?
I could not imagine dying for Rupert Murdoch
we're all waiting for him to finally croak
You’ll be tricked some other way too just wait old sport
@@rktsnail In what way?
Even less for Tucker Carlson.
I didnt want to take that Pharma poison for Biden and Im still here. Not dead or dying.
I think the most important piece of information on this going forward in history is that the politicians should have erased their party affiliations and been in agreement about what was good for the people. A united front would have created very different statistics. Instead, they made it political, just to try and win votes.
One person made it political. Not sure what you’re implying Democrats could have done there
Just based on our local experience here I NZ, the two key things highlighted by this vid do seem to be vital:
1) Having leaders who are willing to listen to medical scientists & act on that, sharing clear regular briefings and focusing on people over money, rather than just saying whatever they think will protect their popularity (or ego!)
2) Having reasonable consensus amongst news outlets to accurately share information, rather than misinformation... although social media remains a chaos zone!
I think having a single-layer government who've been pretty clear in their messaging really helps too - I don't envy Australia & the USA, where their multilayered state/federal systems don't all seem to be pointing in one consistent direction...? We do have a very small cadre of vaccine resisters, who're largely influenced by American sources via social media, but although they're loud they haven't yet been able to sway policy away from an approach that's intended to put public health before politics. Most people seem to understand that being part of a country involves both individual rights AND collective responsibilities.
On a day-to-day level many people have definitely been fairly careless, particularly in earlier stages where we got off super-lightly as a country? But majority are now taking at least the basic precautions, even if their understanding of why may still be a little bit fuzzy. It'll be interesting to see how things develop as Omicron (much more infectious) and later variants continue to cut a swathe through the population...?
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 "Most people seem to understand that being part of a country involves both individual rights AND collective responsibilities"
Not in America 😂
@@JasonBoyce well the thing is for whatever reason most American conservatives are for literally every other vaccine mandate in place not just one for this.
I agree and therefore why we will never go into epidemic stage for a very long time. It's such a shame and to the people who do the rights things feels It's for nothing at the end of the day, because nothing is getting that much better and mutation after mutations are on rise all the time. The toll keeps rising with no end in site it seems. Shame all around 😕
Weird, it's called united state but its divided, huh? How do you change a countries name?
Censorship. Restricting discussion makes some people think there is something nefarious going on.
Force/coercion. Restricting peoples personal choices gives them something to fight for.
Exactly, science is based on debate, not belief. The left has gone into mass psychosis, its a parody of christianity on many levels.
The whole vaccine saga in the US might just be the perfect way to show just how divided the US currently is.
And yet if the vax worked, the vaxxed would have no need to fear and harass the unvaxxed.
@@jennifernordlund2691 except the vaccine DOES work, the reason people "harass" (as you put it) those who don't want to get vaccinated is because there are people out there who aren't able to get vaccinated. When you live alongside others in society in times like this, when a pandemic has killed over 9 HUNDRED THOUSAND people in just the USA alone, you need to think of others and not just yourself. I'm nearly 39 and had all 3 jabs so I'm not too worried about myself but I still worry about the people who are vulnerable. The USA has become so hyper-individualised that the notion for many people caring about their fellow citizens seems to have gone out the window and it saddens me to see
@@jennifernordlund2691 ok? But the vaccine does work and if anything antivaxxwrs and vaxxers both have have had people harass the other but the problem here is that because the disease is real and killing people and the anti vaxxers are putting literally everyone else's lives around them at risk
@@jennifernordlund2691 not to mention they are also risking their own lives
@@jennifernordlund2691 if the unvaxxed were not so self centered and learned to listen to the correct people instead of connecting their personal selves to politicians who don’t have their interests in mind maybe this pandemic would be over and we would be moving forward with our life’s as normal. As always blame the system for putting all the power under individuals who have no idea how to handle a pandemic. Because if the country functioned correctly and properly; we would delegate from the top and put all the decision making under our top health care experts who know what their talking about. Humans gonna human and make things unnecessarily difficult instead of working as a team or cohesive unit
There are two main problems. One is the mindset of "This won't happen to me". The other is the mindset of "Your proof will fortify my disbelieves and the more you try to convince me that I'm wrong the more I will stick to my beliefs".
Do the vaccines work? why 4 shots and boosters now...for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate? Maybe their mindset is that the facts don't add up? Fauci and Brandon lied to the American people for a long time now. Why are words like immunocompromised, myocarditis, "sudden fainting" suddenly just in the last year of a 3 year virus popping up in the media? HHHHMMMMMMMMM
@@derek44264 Did you watch the video, or you just comment?
@@derek44264 There isn’t a single survival rate. It changes under the influence of many factors. And even thought the strongest effect of the vaccine might be short, that doesn’t mean they don’t workZ
@@derek44264 ah, perfect example of indoctrination
Yes! The "This won't happen to me".. it's in NYC, Chicago, L.A.! I don't live there, or go to China so how can I get it living in Booneville, Flyover State, USA? This is a lack of knowledge of how globally connected we all really are...the other statement, I just don't get yo! (🤷🏽♀️!)
What an amazing and heart-wrenching presentation. Thanks for the research and the graphics. Crystal-clear as to where we are headed.
Thanks for reminding everyone correlation does not equal causation! Great statistical story telling here as well - learnt so much
Agreed
you gotta trust you gut too, if you don't see dead bodies and the media say they are there....
Terrible how much ignorance and deception people are willing to go through because of some Facebook post they saw, and they pay the ultimate price.
I lost a good friend cause she wanted to protest against the vaccine and not get vaccinated.
I got the virus more than 1 year ago, and the vaccines about +8 months ago. And seeing the effects of it and how the term fully vaccinated changes by the time I only have the feeling that the vaccine it's just not that needed for people out of the danger zone.
Yes all those pro vax Facebook ads are the reason I got off Facebook. It's supposed to be a fun place, not a pharmaceutical advertisement.
@@ChristianDoretti but it’s more complicated than that. Someone that’s not vaccinated as a 30 year old may give it to their anti-vax grandma who is 80
Good thing I got all my "Misinformation" from the FDA and CDC. Do you have any idea how man times I got banned for linking to Government Websites?
Newsflash, the emperor has no clothes.
Love this story telling format! The charts are genius. Way better way than ppt
The charts and their perfect alignment scratched a part of my brain that hasn’t been touched in a long time. Lol so satisfying
Did you liberals run off to vox now that CNN ran down the drain?
@@phoenixstormjr.5546 "Caring about your health" = "liberal"? LOL
@@linusp9316 Sadly everything in America is political. It's what happens when you have a 2 party system. Literally can guess someones political party by the kind of car they drive in America
This didn't age well
How so?
The production and editing of this video is fantastic. So many great details. Congrats to the technical team
Has anyone noticed that the polarization has spread around the world?
Yup, I've noticed it here in France
Not really here in southeast Asia tho. Vaccine is highly in demand. Don’t really understand why so many western country don’t listen to doctor.
@@zyrtec455 I believe that’s because of overhyped individualism that reigns in our western societies. There are people who put so much emphasis on their personal freedoms that refuse anything that benefits society at large
@@mattiamelara5429 The only thing it benefits are the medical stock holders like me. Thanks for your compliance.
Not here in Philly, probably because of the lack of any bipartisan
Edit: Especially given that it’s election year, no politics in vaccines from what I see.
Amazed at the way this video communicated the data just wow
Who are you fks?
i truly feel for the families of some of these people. I can’t imagine losing someone i love because they politicized a virus. I would be so angry, i don’t think I’d ever be able to grieve.
My wife died on January 29, 2022. She died simply because the ICU was overwhelmed. I have zero compassion for the unvaccinated. I fantasize murdering an unvaccinated covid survivor.
*cough cough* no one@@LittleNova.
The heart of Africa with >1B people also had little to no jabs.
Are you trying to say that they are all “conservative right wingers” as well?
Through this pandemic I've experienced it all. Family tensions, tensions with my ex-girlfriend, and tensions with my classmates. But none of it had to do with getting sick, but getting better. It's not right to lead people astray for personal gain or pride, these people need to be held accountable not just for what they've done but for what a horrible world they've set in stone for the future.
The cure? What cure do you speak of?
@@kolbymartin9743 There are excellent, safe, lifesaving vaccines freely available. You can get vaccinated if you just become a LITTLE more educated
And guess what. The “cure” still doesn’t work xD. FoLlOw ThE ScIeNcE
@@pattyayers what cure do you speak of? You mentioned vaccine, even before the definition of vaccine changed it still didn't mean cure? I'm genuinely confused. I am vaccinated, just wondering what cure you meant?
@@375Cheytac You are aware that myocarditis is a symptom of COVID among severe outcomes in the unvaccinated population, yes?
When doctors tell u to get something, consider getting it. Don't listen to politicians or influencers or your friends. They aren't doctors.
So if politicians, influencers and friends are saying get the vaccine, you shouldnt get it?
That’s the problem
“Don’t listen to” shouldn’t mean “do the exact opposite of”
@@muhammadHassan-kj1jy What ?!
the unfortunate thing is that Doctors are corruptable like everyone on earth. no matter if they took the oath or not, they can still lie, downplay or exaggerate, and in general twist the truth. I've seen way too many stories of people dying because of negligence from health professionals. I am not saying that's 100% what is happening, but it is something to also consider whether we like it or not :/
@@user-n9990 I think my take was quite clever, actually
"this isnt just a pandemic thing ,its the ever growing distrust in these governemnts"
Implying or stating all conservatives think one thing is not true.
They arnt.
The polls presented clearly show not all Republicans agree on any issue - same with all other groups. That's not what they are saying.
Nobody did that.
I did not expect that the republicans were so reluctant about vaccine even before it was invented. That is so sad that vaccines have become a part of the political polarisation in the US and now it will affect the vaccination rates in general. Scientist worked so hard to develop vaccines and protect the population but now it all gets undone.
Distrusting it was the right call, since it's harmed many people and was rendered useless in a few months by variants, which anyone could have predicted.
@@iyziejane Watch the video again. Think you missed the point.
Didn’t Biden say not to trust the vaccine while he was campaigning for president?
@@SobberMacSobberMac no, not even trump was against the vaccine
@@iyziejane do you have low reading and hearing comprehension, or did you just not watch the video?
If you put your entire faith and trust into an individual who has a history of lying and failure to take personal responsibility. You pretty much made your bed.
Are you talking about Trump or Biden because that applies equally to both
Who? Fauchi, Biden?
Not just faith and trust. They base their entire personality around that lying, grifting, twice impeached failure.
Remember when Fauci said masks didn’t work? And then he claimed that anyone against him is against science?
Maybe you mean these quack scientists and doctors that peddle drugs?
Give your production team a raise amazingly well communicated story
Why are even people conservative??
You don't think Islam and Jews are "conservative"? That's funny.
And >70% of American black folks are not vaccinated.
I guess they're all "conservatives" too, right?
As someone who has recently started studying data analytics, the representation of data through visualization in this video is amazing.
Agreed. I'm trying to get into data analytics too and this presentation is kind of genius. It's so simple but tells the story in such a clear and engaging way. Sliding transparencies to compare different views of the same graph is so clever.
Where is the statistical analysis? A least squares line fit doesn’t tell the entire story.
Meticulously detailed presentation of the root causes, my fear is that only Left leaning people will consume this content and we remain where we are. Excellent content!
Right leaning people are all hanging out in their echo chambers listening to the same tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theories. They don't want to hear contrasting ideas just wallow in their pity.
@@mark-ish you might not be wrong, but we can’t be content calling them out in the same video. We need to have conversations with thee same people
nothing in there was a cause...
@@mark-ish You are also in your echo chamber. I am just hear visiting...
@@qwertpoiuy430 Or maybe imark is wrong. Maybe not everybody who makes one particular choice that you disagree with has all the opinions and views you assume they have.
I didn't get because my hospital sent me a surprise bill for a service that was supposed to be covered by insurance. I got afraid to going back to the hospital ever since.
i took my advice from Kamala and Biden at the Very beginning of the their campaign when they said DONT trust it.
but they changed their minds. you only listen to people at only very specific points in time?
These men that admit that they were wrong are REAL MEN. It takes courage to admit that you were wrong and hypnotized by the algorithms. There's no shame in it. I salute everyone who can do that. Sadly many people went to their graves believing the nonsense.
Yeah, they realized when it actually affected them. They admitted it after it happened to them, not before. The point was to not be selfish when you just follow the simple mandates, and get vaccinated. They were too selfish and deserved to face the consequences.
@@vincentlee7359 ill choose freedom. if you want to take it by all means nothings stopping you.
@@notfound5310 whatever, its your funeral
@@toastymctoastface7532 lol cool story.
@@vincentlee7359 You can't blame them given the kind of media they were limited to. Not to say that other forms of media doesn't exist, but those other forms of media usually just bash them for the opinions they happen to have.
"can you imagine if they called Ebola the Obama virus"
Oh, who could imagine those EVER SO COMPASSIONATE REPUBLICANS villifying Obama. CAN YOU IMAGINE
Lol, pretending both sides aren't filled with hateful rhetoric. 🙂
Ad hominem. Obama has nothing to do with Ebola since it became a pandemic over some areas of africa. It was kind of easy to contain so that made the virus less influential. Unlike China's version of the SARS-2 virus who was weaponized by the Chinese Government on its early stages which lead to the global pandemic and it can definitely called the China or Wuhan virus since nobody has stated a clear statement of the origins of the virus. It's pretty much like the Spanish flu, the difference is that this virus actually came from China.
@@ChristianDoretti Before Covid, I actually wrote an essay for an international relations degree on the WHO's response to pandemics.
One really big theme is there is a political tension when it comes to epidemics - you want origin countries to report them as soon as possible, to enable the international scientific and NGO communities to help and governments elsewhere to prepare, but if the origin country reports them, they'll be slapped with travel restrictions and possibly import bans from other governments, providing additional incentives to cover it up. Covering emerging diseases up is reaaally. reaallllly bad. For everyone.
It's a fundamental cooperation problem - it doesn't matter if the origin country is China or Montenegro, or whatever the partisan landscape of the US is. Stopping the practice of naming viruses after their suspected countries of origin helps, because reduces the potential stigma for origin countries and avoids a situation where health officials avoid reporting on a new disease or strain in the hopes that somebody else will first and it'll be named after _them_ instead.
@@ChristianDoretti the main reason ebola was so easy to contain is because the death rate was so high and the infection didn't have a 2 week incubation period. Covid is very unique and if it were to mutate to the point of ebola, with the incubation period. The human species would be decimated. So in a way we are lucky to learn how to fight the virus with such a small amount of loss. The Mrna vaccines were created and tested initially to fight ebola, by the obama administration.
Do these numbers count the people who got hit by a cars but have Covid in their system
Which numbers?
This two party system is really damaging aswell. In Germany we also have a right wing party whose supporters partially believe in covid conspiracies and are against the vaccine but at least this party only got 10 percent of the votes. The Conservative party and the other parties are mainly pro vaccine.
But we still only have 75% fully vaccinated and 57% boostered so I guess we are not the best example:(
what party was it?
So did 18% of them get too sick from the initial shots to get the booster?
@@ericjenny13 AfD most likely
I'm a Republican and I simply don't understand why so many of us are against this vaccine. Trump is pro-vaccine and his policies played an important part in making sure that the vaccines came out as fast as they did.
Caught Wuhanese Virus, recovered like 99.99% of people younger than 30
Republicans are not against the vaccine, they are against not having a choice. Canada is against their vaccine passports being moved to their phones allowing full tracking of all citizens of any restaurant, gym, checkpoint, doctor, family member, or friend they were around. Republicans are against growing government control the way we all hear about China's point system similar to the Black Mirror episode.
He was against the vacines at the beggining, ambigous most of the time and in the end he took them.
His followers are lagging behind and are still at the deniyng phase.
@@burthudson3015 this rail about the mandate that started with Bongino. Is way to hide that they are anti vaxxers.
@@burthudson3015 wait, you thought governments didn’t track your phones before they put a vaccine app on their phone? Most developed countries likely have some form of tracking or can track their people easily if they choose even without an app like that.
Phil's brother: 'We'd been lied to that Trump was a Russian agent'
Trump today: PUTIN WAS SO SMART TO INVADE UKRAINE. WHAT A GREAT GUY.
I was kinda like - uh, what? At least he got the vaccine. Can't say much about his other thoughts...
Definitely feel like maybe there should have been some asterisk or something after he went off about Russia. Oh well, at least he’s vaxxed
The news in your country is just messed up. As a Canadian, Fox is very obviously a circus but CNN and MSNBC are not far behind.
@@TheTransitmtl ... I'm Canadian.
@@TheTransitmtl Trucks are gone? You guys can comment Again?
The way you used overlays to make the charts and data clear was so creative and simple and beautifully elegant. Chef's kiss!
So many countries have a history of downfall due to electing the wrong leader, but when it leads to health risks and even worse deaths, it’s tragic. Just unfortunate..
I think making it so much about death numbers was a mistake. Surviving but having to go to hospital, maybe ending up in an ICU, with serious long term health issues, should've been a big concern too. Then there's the cost of treating all these people, while those with things like cancer and heart disease had their essential treatment delayed. Deaths from Cov-19 were only part of the issue.
Yeah, this is something that irritates me no end with the people not taking the pandemic seriously. They only pay attention to death risk, and ignore every other consequence of the pandemic.
I just didn't want to lose my sense of taste or smell
While true, it ignores two significant facts:
1) Nobody knew all that much at the beginning. There was no tests, only hospitalization and deaths, and in the very early days hospitalization almost inevitably led to death as we had no idea how to deal with it even as an ICU emergency. It didn't take long to figure out "ventilation" due to it primarily affecting the respiratory system, but we also didn't have anywhere near enough ventilators to handle the load so even still, it was usually a one-way trip by the time you had to go to the hospital. Our knowledge has of course greatly evolved over the past two years, but the benefit of hindsight isn't very useful until something is behind you.
2) "We" don't control the information "they" see. As that one chart pointed out, Republican information comes primarily from a very narrow set of sources, all of which are explicitly partisan and will go to any lengths possible to spin a story in "their" favor. I suspect that Republican viewership today has probably widened to include things like OAN and/or Newsmax, as Trump kind of started breaking with Fox when they refused to tell him how awesome he was for trying to turn the country into a dictatorship. Not even that they denounced it - they did their best to ignore Jan 6 entirely - but simply that they wouldn't proclaim him king.
It is inconceivable that we are on track to hit 1 million deaths in the US this year, We have a population 4 times that of Japan, but 45 times the death rate. And almost no one is talking about this.
Right. Plenty of vaccine injured people out there with similar questions. Have you heard about Maddie de Garay? Or do you think it's all in her 12 year old head lkke p fizer.
The root of all of this is the 2-party-system.
A more politically diverse parliament would help massively to reduce the side-taking that's getting more and more ridiculous.
Move to Canada then
1 party systems are dictatorships, 3 party systems are stalemates
That's not true. The root is politicians and networks with no moral compass.
Not the two party system. It's lack of common sense. Taking medical advice from a politicians and political pundits, instead of heeding the advice from medical experts.
Reject science because you think it is wrong, USA,USA!
That part about which news agencies are trusted by at least 40% of Republicans vs Democrats was a real eye opener.
Why? It should be obvious and well known. All the ones the democrats trust are propagandists for the democrats. The one (Fox) that republicans trust is a propagandist for the republicans. LOL
This is how journalism is done. Exploring multiple aspects of an issue by looking at facts and verifiable statistics, while resisting the urge to actively push an agenda.
Yep. Truly enjoyed it.
tl/dr: gaslighting people en mass has deadly consequences that will resonate for years and continue to make life worse for all of us.
I’ve heard from countless individuals that regret getting the jabs, who stopped getting more.
And I've talked to hundreds that have had zero, and not even one regrets their decision.
In fact, the vast majority agree that not participating in this is one of the best decisions that we’ve ever made in our lives.
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Well that settles it then. If they had just talked to you and the people you know we could've saved a lot of research and money.
@@SaintKines In your own words, what exactly is it that you feel that you get out of having the covid vaccines, that those that had none are "missing out" on?
@@safeeffective385 I don't have a degree in any science attached to vaccines period. I had to get a vaccine because I'm in the healthcare profession.
My own personal experience is absolutely meaningless with regards to the bigger picture but I caught COVID while not vaccinated and ended up having to call 911 (on myself) for the first time in my life. I couldn't breath after being sick for 9 days straight.
My wife and kids showed almost zero symptoms when they caught it. Only a couple people that I know had as bad of a reaction to COVID as I did.
I've had COVID twice more since getting a 2 shot vaccine and both times were much much more mild.
Were the next 2 times more mild because I had already had COVID, or the vax, or because it was a less aggressive mutation of COVID? or all of the above or just some of the above? I have no idea.
I defer to whatever the scientific consensus is because anything else would be me taking random opinions and claims online or data and studies that I'm not qualified to judge the accuracy of as fact instead.
This is soooooo off topic but I love your hair
that was actually quite interesting and q great video to bring into conversations with my friends and family that have these ideals. Thank you.
Is it really unreasonable for someone to not want to take something in which we don’t know the long term affects of?
I seriously doubt that this video will have any effect on your friend’s and family’s opinions. It doesn’t really explain their view well enough
The folks that absolutely need to see this the most will not watch this.
I’ve heard from countless individuals that regret getting the covid jabs, who stopped getting more.
And I've talked to hundreds that have had zero, and not even one regrets their decision.
In fact, the vast majority agree that not participating in this is one of the best decisions that we’ve ever made in our lives.
☝ All that I need to know, right there ☝
Not even 1 critical comment? Interesting...
I am baffled. I have been living here in Nepal, and the people here are queuing for their vaccines as well as boosters.
People are disciplined enough to put on face masks, despite being vaccinated.
I asked few of them and they said that , they have seen how effective previous vaccination has been against vaccine preventable diseases.
About masking, the answer was clear... " A piece of mask is effective to prevent death and hospitalisations.. Then why not do it?
Politics
From I have seen only n95 masks have any meaningful difference in infectious vs no mask and atleast in America most have cloth masks not n95
@@hs5312 Doesn't mean it's completely worthless, because it's still somewhat effective and more effective than no mask.
@@verifiede4125 no it is almost worthless, cloth masks vs no mask, they found that the difference was so insignificant as to not matter. Surgical masks were found to be slightly better but still difference, 7.6% infection rate with surgical mask vs 8.6% with no mask
Conservatism ruined my family. I sit fully vaccinated looking at my grandparents and how they shun the idea of a mask… and I am heartbroken at the fact that talk radio and Fox pundits had created a divide within the home I live in.
Needless to say I’m moving out. But it really is shocking to see the people you love change so drastically over garbage.
You are the problem.
Not them...
Instead of helping them you rather run away like a kid. You are the fool that moves into peoples of color communities and pay 3k for a closet.
Take care of your family's genius
@@robertrios1732 this is such a detached and unfounded response?
Fox didn’t cause anything your uneducated grandparents did
In a just society, conservatism wouldn't exist. Sorry for the political loss of your family.
Good for you! I bet you half of these replies are exactly like your grandparents and are too blinded by misinformation to ever get vaccinated.
I go back and forth between being enraged at folks and throwing up my hands and saying they chose this.
Same here. It's how I feel when reading the HCAs.
Props for keeping comments on