i think the complexity of some of these Final Frontier effects would be a crazy fun challenge. A bit more complicated, but even the shuttle in Yosemite shot early on would be a great start 😂
I 100% agree with Tony. Re-imaging the effects for STV would be the best use of your time. Perhaps after you hone your blender skills you could deepfake Sybok into Sean Connery
The scene with the Reliant suddenly appearing and just barely missing a collision with the Enterprise was incredible! I've watched it several times for that alone. Well done!
Beautiful work here. The only constructive criticisms I can offer are: 1) You're slightly over-zealous with the focus pulls - it makes the ship feel small when it's in focus but the background is not. For most real world cameras, the 100m-wide saucer 200m away is going to be at approximately the same focal length as the planetoid and stars beyond. 2) Almost the conceptual inverse of that - Scraping the hull too closely feels like the ILM motion control rig the camera is mounted on is going to gouge the model. Absolutely beautiful work on the lighting, materials, even the film grain. Everything is dialled in perfectly.
It's such a fine line isn't it! Yeah I agree, the focus pull on the first shot is wrong, and I think the final shot has it too where it messes up the scale. My hope with angles is to get close enough that it would replicate the snorkel lens that Trumbull was using on The Motion Picture, because I did find that a few shots from ILM were on too long on a lens and it condensed the model down a bit. Fighting with the scale of the ships is part of the challenge that I'm intrigued by! With Star Wars style ships, it's easy to just slap greebles all over a section, add ladders and other scale-indicators, windows, hatches, etc. Not to diminish or be reductive, but I've done ships like that and had great results very quickly. But with the Star Trek ships, especially federation starships from this era, (TOS would be even harder) there's a real balance that needs to be struck in regards to the 'size and speed' of the camera relative to the building-sized ship. If you were a cameraman in a shuttlecraft trying to document this ship as it goes past, what lens would you use to how far away would you be, and how fast could you travel relative to it. Great example is the difference between the coverage of the fights in Pacific Rim vs it's sequel. The second one looks like a Power Rangers fight because the scale and speed of the camera isn't being respected. And at the same time, my real goal is to improve my 'fakery', making 3d models look like physical models, instead of making them look 'real'. As soon as it looks like a real object, the audience is happier to spend disbelief when it comes to scale etc. So then you're challenging the expectations for a camera rig! Like you said, it feels like the ILM motion control rig would be scraping the hull. However, Trumbull shot closer to the hull than ILM did, and his shooting model for the ship in 2001 was 55 FEET LONG. So then if the model is large enough, the camera proximity isn't as challenging. Except our brains have been trained on 2 or 3 foot models because Douglas Trumbull was a bit of a madman when it comes to his model scales (he said that the Enterprise model was only a quarter of the size that he would have preferred). But this is EXACTLY the analysis that I was wanting. Finding the balance, and being able to instinctively hit the right scale more frequently, with less refinement and revision.
I like that as well. In the movie, it looked like a good solution would have been to simply send a crew person to look out a window rather than depend on the viewscreen and sensors.
Not the most insane idea. Even though I was SCREAMING in my seat as a teen, the weird sale issues with the CGI in Last Starfighter did damage that all-critical "Suspension of Disbelief" would be awesome to see that corrected.
The Mutara Battle would be INCREDIBLE challenging to match. The kinetic violence of those practical explosions would be real tough to produce. Reproducing the way Reliant's rollbar quakes, twists and buckles after the torpedo launcher is destroyed would be a great first explosion to tackle.
The physics sims in zero gravity are kind of what are drawing me toward that. The dense fog of the nebula could be beautiful, but I want scale-accurate explosions with the structural shifts etc for sure 🎉
Some incredible scenes you've done here...!! Amazing and recently well done, well balanced and... wow... just wow...!!! Congratulations for one of the best renderings I've seen in recent times...!!! ❤ This is the level of Trek that we - or at least some of us, fans - need and want in today's Star Trek series and movies!! 🤩 And we need more "old Trek" back!! This Era. This style and ships. Monster Maroon uniforms and good quality writing...!! ❤
I LOVE the TMP style of these shots. The lighting is gorgeous. I agree with what others have posted, start with Final Frontier. The effects in Final Frontier were horrid. I've always dreamed of Motion Picture quality lighting and effects in Final Frontier. Making it look physical rather than computer generated is a real talent!
Beautiful work. I really want to build my own refit model one day. So many beautiful models out there, but they all seem to have the same issue, the models feel like a model. They don't feel like a render of a machine. The pearlescent panels are just about perfect, I love the shimmering as the ship moves.
Wthatever filter you're using to make this look like old footage is definitely a step in the right direction. I hate these "new vfx" shorts, but you got to me at the first clip. Splendid job.
The model looks great. I've struggled importing older refit models into Blender, but I think it's because I haven't sorted out the texture mapping and flipped normals. The renderings looks good so far, I like the inclusion of the horsehead nebula. Even if you didn't replicate the FX shots from TWOK or any other Star Trek movie, I believe there's a lot of room to showcase this era in animation form like this. Keep going!
I am amazed at the workmanship and skill you put into this project. I haven't the skill, computer power, or the patience for such an amazing undertaking. I love your work and you should be proud of it. Budding VFX artists? Hobby? What is you day job and how old are you?!!!??!! Great workmanship.
I love this! Especially what you did in the nebula! Looks great...and more like I would envision it. Dark and hard to actually see. (Loved the detail of the torpedo disappearing and reappearing as it passed through dense and less dense matter in the distance.)
Awesome work! Just one suggestion: Remove all of the DoF-effects. It makes the ship look small. You want to convey a sense of scale, this does the opposite.
Yup! This test reel was extremely telling when it came to lens size, sensor size, and dof. I've been working on a 'scale' test just to nail all of that down, including relative speed and camera proximity. The ships are the size of aircraft carriers, so even if they move fast it should convey that weight.
This is kind of imperative. AND the impulse crystal at the back of the saucer should be amber when under impulse, and blue when at warp. Pretty sure that's right, TMP had it all done correctly so I'd be using a lot of reference
Very good work. you really are 95% there, which is brilliant. I would tone down the DOF on the close passes as it tends to make things look smaller. you would also need to model the interior rooms for the close passes...they work for the wide and even the medium but when you get close they break the shot. And lastly the gloss material needs to be a bit 'dirtier' to really sell up close. Great work!
If you can improve on them, sure. There are more obvious candidates to start with, like The FInal Frontier (I've been working on some non-Enterprise shots myself), and some shots in the others. But honestly, the model work in many of the shots is extremely good and doesn't need replacing, no matter how good your CG might be. And please don't overdo the camera moves (I'm not saying you do, and certainly not in this video) - when a lot of guys think they can improve on the original they do so without any knowledge of composition, camera moves - why some work on an audience and why some don't - and make something inferior without understanding why. So from one VFX artist to another, have at it, dude.
Yeah I would never want to approach this or portray it as an improvement, that would be incredibly egotistical of me. I can really only present an alternative. My 'sabotage' approach to TMP is giving me an opportunity to treat it as a bit of a satire, which is a good way to avoid direct comparison. However... I think I would need to approach TWOK in a similar manner, with a specific theme to my shots, instead of just trying to do the same shots or similar shots. I think what's been in my mind the most, especially after conversations with some of the original designers, is the lighting, the paint treatment, and the scale of the ships. So if I do re-approach TWOK, my goal would be to create shots that sell themselves as model-photography from the era, but without the drawbacks of bluescreen. With more realistic lighting scenarios (space is mainly dark, the ships light themselves, etc), and an almost exaggerated sense of scale. Trumbull said he would have rathered the model was about 3x larger I believe, so I'd be aiming to get the camera closer, move it slower, etc. Just really sell the scale of a 300m space-liner sized vessel.
Awesome. I'd slow down the torpedo launches just a hair. And as someone already said: the aztecing on the hull is perfect and something a lot of people miss and makes the ship look like a model and not real. Don't change it.
These are very good, but Wrath of Khan has been done to death, in terms of VFX redo's. The Motion Picture gets redone a lot as well. There's one UA-camr I know who even completed a project recently where they replaced all the VFX shots in Wrath of Khan that were recycled from TMP with new shots to make them different, especially making it so that the "leaving spacedock" portion actually shows the Enterprise leaving spacedock instead of the TMP drydock. If you want a real challenge, I'd love to see someone start redoing the exterior VFX shots in TOS episodes with the updated Enterprise from Strange New Worlds. But as others have said, if you want to continue using the movie-era model, I'd suggest doing the later Kirk-era movies like 5 and 6 which don't get done nearly as much.
Probably the most thoughtful response I've gotten so far! I totally agree. The more I look, the more I see other Khan fans redoing shots etc. So as much as I can be keen that mine would be 'different' or 'better', I think I could have a better time on something in a more dire situation. Undiscovered Country actually has some deadly vfx compared to other films from the era, so then my sights do keep getting drawn to Final Frontier. I was thinking about the TOS intro the other day, but the title sequence is so fast that wouldn't matter. I could potentially redo to the Strange New Worlds intro with the TOS enterprise but it would be a pain because it's done so well so mine would look like trash. I feel like I'd appreciate the challenge of doing the 'entirety' of something... So maybe I'd need to grab a full episode of TOS and use the Strange New Worlds Enterprise, or The Cage 🧐 and redo all of the vfx. Get someone to deepfake the actors for me
This is epic! Looks like a studio miniature. Just the look you want. I find it incredible how realistic the textures on this model are. The only thing that doesn't stand up terribly well are the windows. Look a little too flat and white. Looking forward to seeing more!
Looks fantastic! I say yes. The fact that you could always clearly see the ships when they were inside the nebula made no sense. Oh, one little detail you might want to consider adding: Spock mentions static discharge as being a reason their sensors are so screwed up, while we see hints of it in the original VFX, it's kind of sparse. To so thoroughly cloud their sensors, seems like there should be a lot. Anyhow, great work!
I was going to say "no, it's been done before" until you showed the Enterprise steaming quickly past the clouds in the Mutara Nebula. I always thought that battle could be visually MUCH more exciting if the clouds were used to better effect, and if the ships sped up and slowed down and turned more, and were *really* playing "hide and seek." So now I say, "yes, go for it"
I love how the camera is so close to the ship it fills the entire screen and can't get all of it in frame (particularly during its shootout with the Reliant) because the ship is really huge.
Go for it. Your work is great. I would implore you to retain the original sound effects. TWOK had some of the best sound effects. The phaser and torpedo sounds were believable. Not the cheesy "pew pew" stuff that the newer movies and shows use.
I felt terrible even TOUCHING the audio for this test! For the actual project, I wouldn't touch the audio track AT ALL. For this clip I used the soundtrack, used the correct sound for the ship rumbling past the camera BUT I admit that I couldn't find the correct torpedo sound. The one I used was actually a quantum torpedo fired by the E 😭 BUT when I played it back against the film for comparison, it was the closest I could find in a pinch without just sampling the film. But yeah, I don't want to touch the audio, don't want to adjust timing on edits (except for the first arrival at the Enterprise, just because I'm a fool and I had a 'cool idea' like everyone else). I'd like to do everything shot-for-shot, phaser for phaser.
The TOS movies could definitely use updated visual effects. That should have been part of the deal when they upgraded the visual effects for all 3 seasons of TOS. Your test reel is impressive, most impressive.
Absolutely. As long as the damage to the Enterprise can logically line up with what they bring back to the starbase in #3, I'm keen to have hull plates flying off, all that jazz. So long as it looks like it was shot with a model. The Reliant, however, is fair game.
Wow, those shots are slick. They really feel like a modern upgrade to the original model work. Most digital renders of those shots just don't feel like an upgrade at all but the sense of scale and lighting actually feels like the enhancement is worth the effort. Kudos.
I feel like the biggest challenge is really to replicate the model, not create the ship. Often you'll see people trying to make 'modern' updates of things like this, but modern vfx is actually often accused of not feeling real, whereas modelwork still has an implied reality. "It was photographed with a camera, so it's real, it's just a different size" vs "this was made in a computer" A lot of what I do for VFX work is trying to tap into reality through those mental loopholes, so my plan with Trek stuff is to try and sell that it's still a model, just the lighting and camera got a little upgrade.
I think it would be cool to see inside the windows, rather than the windows be a solid white light. It would help establish scale, so we know just how big this ship is (like a flying office building), and help the vessel feel more alive and organic, on top of already being a shiny, beautiful ship.
The technical limitations of this time allowed for a more accurate fighting Style. In Star Trek battles are supposed to be like a submarine or naval fight. More strategical, more thoughts, less movement. In Jar Jar Abrahams Star Trek they inserted that bullshit speeding car style. That video has a beauty of a more high tech style and balances it with that naval battle feeling. I'd love to seen the whole battle with more higher graphics and that naval vibe.
First of all: this is absolutely beautiful. However... tbh I like the fact that STII was made with models, it gives a nice late-70s/early-80s vibe. I don't want anything to be done to the movie 😛
That's frankly the same way I feel. This is INCREDIBLE, and if a movie came out looking like this, it would be gorgeous. Still, classic Trek, using scale models, gave the ships a sort of physicality that CGI just couldn't quite match. Even if the CGI and lighting would actually make the ships look in space much more realistically, the truth is that something would be lost in translation. NOW....having said that....if you wanted to go back to STV: The Final Frontier, with its awful compositing and sub-par effects, I think physicality would be a small price to pay. Not that WOK doesn't have its own visual shortcomings, but, frankly, it's the kind of film that looks perfect just the way it is, flaws and all.
Yes! Make it !!! Your model work is stellar and the lighting/rendering looks wonderful. I love the details of the 'cloudiness' of the Mutara Nebula. That was one thing that always bothered me with WOK. Why wasn't everyone looking out the windows? They were depending 100% on the scrambled tv signal, where the enterprise has windows all over it . And the nebula was crystal clear inside!! Your version has the nebula cloudy and opaque, thereby rendering the windows on the Enterprise a non-factor. Please make this version!!
The moment when the Enterprise comes up behind the Reliant, but they're still blind, is a bit of a problem for me. If the noise on the monitors is caused by the nebula, their persistent blindness should be caused by the sensors being obscured. So when they pop up from behind, they should still be shedding cloud while they're prepping torpedos
@@BrendanHenry Agreed. That bothered me too. Admittedly, I was wrapped up in the 'heroic' shot when the Enterprise comes up from behind (yay!) but, also, it was crystal clear otherwise. Brendan, I cannot stress enough, coming from someone who has a graphic background, but not in render/modeling, how absolutely refreshing your work is. Finally, the Mutara Nebula is depicted as it "should" have been Not sure if in 82' SFX crew was 'afraid' to 'hide' the ships in the murky clouds, or they didn't know how, but yours is what it "should have been. They only truly depicted the clouds when Reliant went into the dark murky cloud. Keep at it!!!
@@JerryScullion the majority of their cloud stuff was done in a salt water tank at high speeds, and all of the modelwork was done with motion control, minus that one shot with the smoke around the ship. So it really wasn't something they could try at that point in time I don't think
If Paramount were to re-release Wrath of Kahn. With effects like these would be mind blowing! It would be worth paying today's prices to see it again. Let us contact Paramount and make it so!
If you're going to redo a Trek film's effects, do Final Frontier. It needs the most help, frankly.
i think the complexity of some of these Final Frontier effects would be a crazy fun challenge. A bit more complicated, but even the shuttle in Yosemite shot early on would be a great start 😂
I 100% agree with Tony. Re-imaging the effects for STV would be the best use of your time. Perhaps after you hone your blender skills you could deepfake Sybok into Sean Connery
@@mysoulwanders oh jeez. But Laurence Luckinbill is actually pretty damn charismatic as Sybok!
Yes!!!! Do Final Frontier.
Also, great job on this video
@@BrendanHenry You could actually do the rock men. That would be cool.
The light of the nebula playing off the Aztec-ing on the hull at :45 is ❤❤
The scene with the Reliant suddenly appearing and just barely missing a collision with the Enterprise was incredible! I've watched it several times for that alone. Well done!
Thanks!! Yeah I love that moment. Sometimes when things come together like that it's just fantastic.
Now do the full battle engament all the way to the genesis escape, that would be epic along with James Horner music...
By far the most convincing blender model of the enterprise I’ve seen to date. Well done!
Need to infuse the hull battle damage as well on both ships...that's important..
Beautiful work here. The only constructive criticisms I can offer are:
1) You're slightly over-zealous with the focus pulls - it makes the ship feel small when it's in focus but the background is not. For most real world cameras, the 100m-wide saucer 200m away is going to be at approximately the same focal length as the planetoid and stars beyond.
2) Almost the conceptual inverse of that - Scraping the hull too closely feels like the ILM motion control rig the camera is mounted on is going to gouge the model.
Absolutely beautiful work on the lighting, materials, even the film grain. Everything is dialled in perfectly.
It's such a fine line isn't it! Yeah I agree, the focus pull on the first shot is wrong, and I think the final shot has it too where it messes up the scale.
My hope with angles is to get close enough that it would replicate the snorkel lens that Trumbull was using on The Motion Picture, because I did find that a few shots from ILM were on too long on a lens and it condensed the model down a bit.
Fighting with the scale of the ships is part of the challenge that I'm intrigued by! With Star Wars style ships, it's easy to just slap greebles all over a section, add ladders and other scale-indicators, windows, hatches, etc. Not to diminish or be reductive, but I've done ships like that and had great results very quickly. But with the Star Trek ships, especially federation starships from this era, (TOS would be even harder) there's a real balance that needs to be struck in regards to the 'size and speed' of the camera relative to the building-sized ship.
If you were a cameraman in a shuttlecraft trying to document this ship as it goes past, what lens would you use to how far away would you be, and how fast could you travel relative to it. Great example is the difference between the coverage of the fights in Pacific Rim vs it's sequel. The second one looks like a Power Rangers fight because the scale and speed of the camera isn't being respected.
And at the same time, my real goal is to improve my 'fakery', making 3d models look like physical models, instead of making them look 'real'. As soon as it looks like a real object, the audience is happier to spend disbelief when it comes to scale etc.
So then you're challenging the expectations for a camera rig! Like you said, it feels like the ILM motion control rig would be scraping the hull. However, Trumbull shot closer to the hull than ILM did, and his shooting model for the ship in 2001 was 55 FEET LONG. So then if the model is large enough, the camera proximity isn't as challenging. Except our brains have been trained on 2 or 3 foot models because Douglas Trumbull was a bit of a madman when it comes to his model scales (he said that the Enterprise model was only a quarter of the size that he would have preferred).
But this is EXACTLY the analysis that I was wanting. Finding the balance, and being able to instinctively hit the right scale more frequently, with less refinement and revision.
👏👏👏👏 100%
you did this in BLENDER?! HOLY CRAP! This is amazing!!!!!!
Bloody amazing. That middle section was stunning where Reliant just comes out of nowhere.
I like that as well. In the movie, it looked like a good solution would have been to simply send a crew person to look out a window rather than depend on the viewscreen and sensors.
If you want a challenge and a movie that needs an update then do The Last Starfighter.
oooh... yes. The Mutara Nebula battle is great. But to see The Last Starfighter with modern VFX would be pretty cool.
Not the most insane idea. Even though I was SCREAMING in my seat as a teen, the weird sale issues with the CGI in Last Starfighter did damage that all-critical "Suspension of Disbelief" would be awesome to see that corrected.
Stupid STUPID autocomplete…. Weird SCALE issues….
That is a stunning ship. The "lense" choice absolutely sells the illusion of it being an in-camera physical model. Awesome.
The CONSTITUTION REFIT is really a beauty to look at! She's also my favorite starship! NASA can use these ships to explore the galaxy.
The Mutara Battle would be INCREDIBLE challenging to match. The kinetic violence of those practical explosions would be real tough to produce. Reproducing the way Reliant's rollbar quakes, twists and buckles after the torpedo launcher is destroyed would be a great first explosion to tackle.
The physics sims in zero gravity are kind of what are drawing me toward that. The dense fog of the nebula could be beautiful, but I want scale-accurate explosions with the structural shifts etc for sure 🎉
Some incredible scenes you've done here...!! Amazing and recently well done, well balanced and... wow... just wow...!!! Congratulations for one of the best renderings I've seen in recent times...!!! ❤
This is the level of Trek that we - or at least some of us, fans - need and want in today's Star Trek series and movies!! 🤩
And we need more "old Trek" back!! This Era. This style and ships. Monster Maroon uniforms and good quality writing...!! ❤
If you don't I will! Why not extend the scenes too! It's still the best Star Trek. Brilliant buddy!
Love that first slow beauty pass. Really majestic and helps to convey it being a big ship.
Yeah, love those phasers from wrath of Khan. Would love to see em updated!
Wow! Seeing the ultra-close up with the aztec detail actually gave me a shiver. Excellent job.
I LOVE the TMP style of these shots. The lighting is gorgeous. I agree with what others have posted, start with Final Frontier. The effects in Final Frontier were horrid. I've always dreamed of Motion Picture quality lighting and effects in Final Frontier. Making it look physical rather than computer generated is a real talent!
Beautiful. This looks so amazing. Would love to see more.
YES!! The part where the sun appears behind Genesis as a matte painting always bugged me.
This confirms how important sound effects and music is for that last punch.
This is amazing, I would love to see the movies vfx redone
Most realistic looking CG attempt at the Enterprise I’ve seen on UA-cam. Well done!
Beautiful work. I really want to build my own refit model one day. So many beautiful models out there, but they all seem to have the same issue, the models feel like a model. They don't feel like a render of a machine. The pearlescent panels are just about perfect, I love the shimmering as the ship moves.
Oh my, what a beautiful ship! Fantastic work.
Unbelievable. That's the most glorious thing I've ever seen.
This was brilliant and definitely the most realistic CG I've seen. I'd very much like to see you do more shots
Damn that looks amazing. The 1701 is the most beautiful Sci-Fi starship ever made.
Wthatever filter you're using to make this look like old footage is definitely a step in the right direction. I hate these "new vfx" shorts, but you got to me at the first clip. Splendid job.
The model looks great. I've struggled importing older refit models into Blender, but I think it's because I haven't sorted out the texture mapping and flipped normals.
The renderings looks good so far, I like the inclusion of the horsehead nebula.
Even if you didn't replicate the FX shots from TWOK or any other Star Trek movie, I believe there's a lot of room to showcase this era in animation form like this. Keep going!
Hell i just make mine from the ground up. Took ten years for me to perfect and with looking at the 1:350 scale model of the 1701-A
I am amazed at the workmanship and skill you put into this project. I haven't the skill, computer power, or the patience for such an amazing undertaking. I love your work and you should be proud of it. Budding VFX artists? Hobby? What is you day job and how old are you?!!!??!! Great workmanship.
I love this! Especially what you did in the nebula! Looks great...and more like I would envision it. Dark and hard to actually see. (Loved the detail of the torpedo disappearing and reappearing as it passed through dense and less dense matter in the distance.)
Awesome work! Just one suggestion: Remove all of the DoF-effects. It makes the ship look small. You want to convey a sense of scale, this does the opposite.
Yup! This test reel was extremely telling when it came to lens size, sensor size, and dof. I've been working on a 'scale' test just to nail all of that down, including relative speed and camera proximity. The ships are the size of aircraft carriers, so even if they move fast it should convey that weight.
Incredible how well that design holds up visually all these years later.
Yes. Your version keeps the heart of the film, the Enterprise, and the sense of awe and danger.
If you redo Khan, make sure you make the deflector dish the yellow when it's traveling at sublight speeds.
This is kind of imperative. AND the impulse crystal at the back of the saucer should be amber when under impulse, and blue when at warp. Pretty sure that's right, TMP had it all done correctly so I'd be using a lot of reference
Very good work. you really are 95% there, which is brilliant. I would tone down the DOF on the close passes as it tends to make things look smaller. you would also need to model the interior rooms for the close passes...they work for the wide and even the medium but when you get close they break the shot. And lastly the gloss material needs to be a bit 'dirtier' to really sell up close.
Great work!
Yes please. Beautiful shots!
Yep! I'd love to see your take on Star Trek 2.
Absolutely!
You have my vote
Youre work is great. Do what ever you desire.I would apriciate it. Maybe you can use your skills to tell a new story. Give us some good old Star Trek.
So beautiful, so amazing!
If you can improve on them, sure. There are more obvious candidates to start with, like The FInal Frontier (I've been working on some non-Enterprise shots myself), and some shots in the others. But honestly, the model work in many of the shots is extremely good and doesn't need replacing, no matter how good your CG might be. And please don't overdo the camera moves (I'm not saying you do, and certainly not in this video) - when a lot of guys think they can improve on the original they do so without any knowledge of composition, camera moves - why some work on an audience and why some don't - and make something inferior without understanding why. So from one VFX artist to another, have at it, dude.
Yeah I would never want to approach this or portray it as an improvement, that would be incredibly egotistical of me. I can really only present an alternative. My 'sabotage' approach to TMP is giving me an opportunity to treat it as a bit of a satire, which is a good way to avoid direct comparison.
However... I think I would need to approach TWOK in a similar manner, with a specific theme to my shots, instead of just trying to do the same shots or similar shots.
I think what's been in my mind the most, especially after conversations with some of the original designers, is the lighting, the paint treatment, and the scale of the ships.
So if I do re-approach TWOK, my goal would be to create shots that sell themselves as model-photography from the era, but without the drawbacks of bluescreen. With more realistic lighting scenarios (space is mainly dark, the ships light themselves, etc), and an almost exaggerated sense of scale.
Trumbull said he would have rathered the model was about 3x larger I believe, so I'd be aiming to get the camera closer, move it slower, etc. Just really sell the scale of a 300m space-liner sized vessel.
Beautiful work here. I would love to see this concept explored.
@@zanith56 I feel like I should just do shorter clips and upload them, instead of fussing with doing an entire section or scene etc
YES!!!!! 10 reasons. All of them are just yes!
Yes, redo. And it may be challenging, but the time warp breakaway from around the sun in The Voyage Home, it's one of "my" favorite scenes.
Yes, please!
That last shot has the look and feel of TMP!
Good gravy that was amazing.
Awesome. I'd slow down the torpedo launches just a hair. And as someone already said: the aztecing on the hull is perfect and something a lot of people miss and makes the ship look like a model and not real. Don't change it.
Outstanding effort, really well done! Does make you realise just how damn good real models were though.
These are very good, but Wrath of Khan has been done to death, in terms of VFX redo's. The Motion Picture gets redone a lot as well. There's one UA-camr I know who even completed a project recently where they replaced all the VFX shots in Wrath of Khan that were recycled from TMP with new shots to make them different, especially making it so that the "leaving spacedock" portion actually shows the Enterprise leaving spacedock instead of the TMP drydock. If you want a real challenge, I'd love to see someone start redoing the exterior VFX shots in TOS episodes with the updated Enterprise from Strange New Worlds. But as others have said, if you want to continue using the movie-era model, I'd suggest doing the later Kirk-era movies like 5 and 6 which don't get done nearly as much.
Probably the most thoughtful response I've gotten so far! I totally agree. The more I look, the more I see other Khan fans redoing shots etc. So as much as I can be keen that mine would be 'different' or 'better', I think I could have a better time on something in a more dire situation. Undiscovered Country actually has some deadly vfx compared to other films from the era, so then my sights do keep getting drawn to Final Frontier.
I was thinking about the TOS intro the other day, but the title sequence is so fast that wouldn't matter. I could potentially redo to the Strange New Worlds intro with the TOS enterprise but it would be a pain because it's done so well so mine would look like trash.
I feel like I'd appreciate the challenge of doing the 'entirety' of something... So maybe I'd need to grab a full episode of TOS and use the Strange New Worlds Enterprise, or The Cage 🧐 and redo all of the vfx. Get someone to deepfake the actors for me
A masterpiece of elegance.
This is just pure perfection. Great work.
Those were some really, really amazing shots.
Yes!
Great job, guys!
This is spectacular. Make it so!
Are you f***ng kidding me? This looks amazing. As old Emperor Palpatine would say: "DEWIT!"
This is epic! Looks like a studio miniature. Just the look you want. I find it incredible how realistic the textures on this model are.
The only thing that doesn't stand up terribly well are the windows. Look a little too flat and white.
Looking forward to seeing more!
You got my vote
My jaw just dropped. Beautiful!
That looks awesome
Yes!!
Looks fantastic! I say yes. The fact that you could always clearly see the ships when they were inside the nebula made no sense. Oh, one little detail you might want to consider adding: Spock mentions static discharge as being a reason their sensors are so screwed up, while we see hints of it in the original VFX, it's kind of sparse. To so thoroughly cloud their sensors, seems like there should be a lot. Anyhow, great work!
I was going to say "no, it's been done before" until you showed the Enterprise steaming quickly past the clouds in the Mutara Nebula. I always thought that battle could be visually MUCH more exciting if the clouds were used to better effect, and if the ships sped up and slowed down and turned more, and were *really* playing "hide and seek." So now I say, "yes, go for it"
Imma shamelessly say yes, but only because I can never get enough of these fanmade shots, heehee.
Dude. As some fellow once said, "Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself." Seriously, have fun and do yo' thang, brother. Have fun. Learn lots!
Yes please
YES!
Hang on, you're telling me this *isn't* a physical model? Fantastic!
Best feedback I could ever get 🖖🏻
I love how the camera is so close to the ship it fills the entire screen and can't get all of it in frame (particularly during its shootout with the Reliant) because the ship is really huge.
Go for it. Your work is great. I would implore you to retain the original sound effects. TWOK had some of the best sound effects. The phaser and torpedo sounds were believable. Not the cheesy "pew pew" stuff that the newer movies and shows use.
I felt terrible even TOUCHING the audio for this test! For the actual project, I wouldn't touch the audio track AT ALL. For this clip I used the soundtrack, used the correct sound for the ship rumbling past the camera BUT I admit that I couldn't find the correct torpedo sound. The one I used was actually a quantum torpedo fired by the E 😭 BUT when I played it back against the film for comparison, it was the closest I could find in a pinch without just sampling the film. But yeah, I don't want to touch the audio, don't want to adjust timing on edits (except for the first arrival at the Enterprise, just because I'm a fool and I had a 'cool idea' like everyone else). I'd like to do everything shot-for-shot, phaser for phaser.
@@BrendanHenry I look forward to seeing your work!
Omg keep going !!!! Beautiful
I'm here from the future, and yes, that would be neat, especially if you can give the refit her original pearlescent paint job for the other movies.
The TOS movies could definitely use updated visual effects. That should have been part of the deal when they upgraded the visual effects for all 3 seasons of TOS. Your test reel is impressive, most impressive.
Please do. It looks gorgeous!
Should you? YES, that looks incredible...
Ohhhh, the scene where the enterprise fired a torpedo is SEXY…. The nebula looks FANTASTIC.
If you can do battles that show damage then yeah
Absolutely. As long as the damage to the Enterprise can logically line up with what they bring back to the starbase in #3, I'm keen to have hull plates flying off, all that jazz. So long as it looks like it was shot with a model. The Reliant, however, is fair game.
yes please that would be awosome
Yesss
Wow, those shots are slick. They really feel like a modern upgrade to the original model work. Most digital renders of those shots just don't feel like an upgrade at all but the sense of scale and lighting actually feels like the enhancement is worth the effort. Kudos.
I feel like the biggest challenge is really to replicate the model, not create the ship. Often you'll see people trying to make 'modern' updates of things like this, but modern vfx is actually often accused of not feeling real, whereas modelwork still has an implied reality.
"It was photographed with a camera, so it's real, it's just a different size" vs "this was made in a computer"
A lot of what I do for VFX work is trying to tap into reality through those mental loopholes, so my plan with Trek stuff is to try and sell that it's still a model, just the lighting and camera got a little upgrade.
@@BrendanHenry That makes sense. Your shots definitely have texture, just like the original model. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
This is very well done.
This gave me chills!
NCC-1701-D Lives Again. This movie had such great music! Nice remake!
I think it would be cool to see inside the windows, rather than the windows be a solid white light. It would help establish scale, so we know just how big this ship is (like a flying office building), and help the vessel feel more alive and organic, on top of already being a shiny, beautiful ship.
The technical limitations of this time allowed for a more accurate fighting Style. In Star Trek battles are supposed to be like a submarine or naval fight. More strategical, more thoughts, less movement. In Jar Jar Abrahams Star Trek they inserted that bullshit speeding car style. That video has a beauty of a more high tech style and balances it with that naval battle feeling. I'd love to seen the whole battle with more higher graphics and that naval vibe.
Amazing work!!!!!!!
First of all: this is absolutely beautiful.
However... tbh I like the fact that STII was made with models, it gives a nice late-70s/early-80s vibe. I don't want anything to be done to the movie 😛
That's frankly the same way I feel. This is INCREDIBLE, and if a movie came out looking like this, it would be gorgeous. Still, classic Trek, using scale models, gave the ships a sort of physicality that CGI just couldn't quite match. Even if the CGI and lighting would actually make the ships look in space much more realistically, the truth is that something would be lost in translation. NOW....having said that....if you wanted to go back to STV: The Final Frontier, with its awful compositing and sub-par effects, I think physicality would be a small price to pay. Not that WOK doesn't have its own visual shortcomings, but, frankly, it's the kind of film that looks perfect just the way it is, flaws and all.
Beautiful & EPIC!
Yes, absolutely, YES. Please remake the leaving Spacedock sequence. Put it in the Earth Spacedock from STIII.
Yes! Make it !!! Your model work is stellar and the lighting/rendering looks wonderful. I love the details of the 'cloudiness' of the Mutara Nebula. That was one thing that always bothered me with WOK. Why wasn't everyone looking out the windows? They were depending 100% on the scrambled tv signal, where the enterprise has windows all over it . And the nebula was crystal clear inside!! Your version has the nebula cloudy and opaque, thereby rendering the windows on the Enterprise a non-factor. Please make this version!!
The moment when the Enterprise comes up behind the Reliant, but they're still blind, is a bit of a problem for me. If the noise on the monitors is caused by the nebula, their persistent blindness should be caused by the sensors being obscured. So when they pop up from behind, they should still be shedding cloud while they're prepping torpedos
@@BrendanHenry Agreed. That bothered me too. Admittedly, I was wrapped up in the 'heroic' shot when the Enterprise comes up from behind (yay!) but, also, it was crystal clear otherwise. Brendan, I cannot stress enough, coming from someone who has a graphic background, but not in render/modeling, how absolutely refreshing your work is. Finally, the Mutara Nebula is depicted as it "should" have been Not sure if in 82' SFX crew was 'afraid' to 'hide' the ships in the murky clouds, or they didn't know how, but yours is what it "should have been. They only truly depicted the clouds when Reliant went into the dark murky cloud. Keep at it!!!
@@JerryScullion the majority of their cloud stuff was done in a salt water tank at high speeds, and all of the modelwork was done with motion control, minus that one shot with the smoke around the ship. So it really wasn't something they could try at that point in time I don't think
@@BrendanHenry Makes sense. Well, thank you for providing WOK fans the look of the Nebula we all knew was possible. Looking forward to more!
Yor Enterprise fly-bys are amazing
Yes yes yes, you should. 🤩
Yes please do them
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Woooooow. Great work here, please do
If Paramount were to re-release Wrath of Kahn. With effects like these would be mind blowing! It would be worth paying today's prices to see it again. Let us contact Paramount and make it so!
Great job!