The Battle For Boutique SUPRREMACY | Soldano SLO 100 vs Mezzarbarba MZero Overdrive
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The only real answer to the question 'Mezzabarba or Soldano?' is yes.
Finally, someone cracked the code.
Soldano for me. It seems more open without being harsh. Feels like is sings better too although it's 6L6s.
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The SLO sounds absolutely killer..
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You may think what makes your approach to content unique is the similar setups to allow easier comparisons, Kyle... but for me, it’s your navigations through the controls. No one else explains what they’re trying to achieve at the same time, in the detail that you do 🤘🏻
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Thanks for the great shoot out, Kyle. The amps are very close, I think I slightly prefer the Soldano, though. A shoot out between the SLO 30 and the Mezzabarba Skill 30 would be very interesting as well. I'm not sure whether you still have the Skill, though.
You're welcome! I don't have either of the 30 watt amps any more, but I plan to get them again!
Feathers riff at 5:59 🤘
Love that record so much
Great video, both sound very similar but the Soldano takes the gold.
Absolutely killer amps. And as you said, slightly different voicings, but not something anyone could detect in a live setting. Keep em both! lol
Love this comparison. SLO just thunders, the Meza has that awesome Marshall snap and bite.
Exactly.
Ah yes the battle we have been waiting for! Would love to see you do one with MZero, Uberschall, Diezel and Marshall next!
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I would be happy with either..
Great vid 🤘🤘
Thanks Jimmy!
Kyle you dial in the best metal tones I've ever heard I'm jealous 😆. I have a randall combo 150wt but I'll live with it.
Thanks Fred!!
Great Demo Kyle! The SLO really seems a bit more suited to smooth thick leads. I Love mezza/barba tweaks more for crunchy tight rhythm tones
Thanks!
Two really cool amps... love the SLO to DEATH
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Awesome choice bro, well done.
Thanks dude!
I like em both. Great amps.
Agreed
Mezza just sounds like it has a hair more gain on tap with a slightly more aggressive/modern voicing, but that might just be because the SLO handles the gain so ridiculously well, with that gummy midrange. It never gets fizzy or loose it just gets meaner the more gain you throw at it. I suppose that ultimately comes down to preference but the SLO just stays tight and thick. (Yo mamma) I’d probably choose the SLO. It’s the high gain equivalent of a classic muscle car. Never goes out of style.
Couldn't agree more! The amp needs to be understood to get it to sound best for tight metal tones, but the way people talk about it on the internet leads me to believe they've never actually played it.
I owned the SLO30 for about a year, and have a SLO preamp currently so I’m pretty familiar with it. lol I’ve never had to push the gain past 6 on any SLO I’ve ever played, and I just hit it with an OD when I needed to drive it hard. (I play modern music) It’s a high gain amp by any standard, even if some other modern amps have more on tap. (The majority of which is thoroughly unusable unless tuning extremely low imo)
I chose the M0 over the SLO. It just does more. I understand the allure of owning an SLO and it seems people just want bragging rights because when it comes to the tones, they aren't missing anything by owning the Mezza.
Great video! lovely tones.
P.S. It's Mezzabarba not MezzaRbarba in case you missed the typo 😉
Soldano for me. The Mezza is pretty awesome to but at 4k each I'm only buying 1 of them. Both these amps kick ass. Which ever 1 you buy you WIN 🤘
At $4k each, I'm only buying NONE of them. 😑
Both amps sound fantastic! It’s hard to beat a SLO, I could never part with mine! Good demo man.
Thanks dude!
I have found that turning on the boost with the m zero seems to add some nice mids and some smoothness. For me, the mezza has more features for about the same price.
agree and for me was less expensive to buy my Mezzabarba MZero a year ago than a Soldano. For small amps, I would get a Soldano SLO 30 that is a fantastic small tube amp. But I like my Bogner Uberschall, Diezel and Mesa better than Soldano and Mezzabarba right now for my tone flavor most of the time.
Mezzabarba for me. I wasn't fan of the SLO...but you made yours sound way better than mine haha.
The clarity of the MEZZ∆BARB∆ 🤘
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I think I'd get the Soldano personally. They play very well together though, I imagine they'd sit together in a mix or in a live setting very well!
Not much difference between the two so I feel like I'd want to grab one or the other and something completely different to pair.
@@belligerentamateur agree I have the MZero and would get something different like a Diezel, KSR, Splawn Nitro, or ENGL Savage.
kyle!!! both sounded great, but the mezza by a hair!!!
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The SLO has a sweetness to it in the mid range. The Mzero is brutal but doesn’t sing as well in the mids. Great review. How about your Balaguer, what are your thoughts on it? They look like a great instrument.
Thanks Steven! I made a video, search Balguer Typhon! As far as the SLo, yes, it is a smoother amp for sure. Really depends what you're looking for
@@belligerentamateur thanks for the heads up. Great review. Beautiful instrument for sure.
Smooth bright slo with nice mid punch. I subconsciously tried to dail my amps to sound like it 😅
Both great. SlO for me, just more of what I want.
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My dude, I know this is more of a pedal vs amp thing. But have you ever looked into any of the RIVERA amps? I think you might dig on the knucklehead tre. Gain is insane. Their Knucklehed reverb amps are pretty nice too. Anyway even though I’m a different type of guitarist. I absolutely enjoy your videos.🤘🏻
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The Mezza sounds damn good
Oh yes it does
This is exiting Kyle the amps I can't afford lol🤣those are sweet man thanks for sharing these.
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Love the mids from the Soldano. Nice punch from the MZero. Thanks for this.
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The SLO is the king because of how clean and articulate it is. It's misleading in a way as it doesn't "seem" real high gain, but it is, and is just so composed. Of course, it has huge power filtering to keep it real tight and articulate. The incredible clarity of the SLO is why it's really in a class of its own. Clear and articulate is where it's at.
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Yeah i like the mid thing the SLO does.
Another sick review too man.
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'Mezzabarba or Soldano?' yes! Can’t go wrong either way
SLO’s through a Vintage 30 never did it for me. I think they shine through other speakers less spikey in the mids. You should try a Hot Rod 100 and compare with the MezzaBarba they both have the JCM800 sound but on steroids.
I love the SLO but I think the Mezza beats it out by a hair. I like the tightness and upper mids and it sounds a bit more raw and less compressed.
That's also what I like
eh. you can get your SLO-100 modded. I just got mine back from Dave Friedman. Now I have the tightness, no need for a boost pedal, crunch channel fixed and loop bleed fixed. This is the best sounding SLO 100 period.
Mezzabarba should cut through better in a mix? Would be interesting to hear. Great comparison as usual! ✌️
Thanks Simon!
Dude! Nice to see some love for Wolfetone pick ups! Wolfe is a super good dude, and his pick ups are criminally underrated. If you haven’t tried the Timber Wolf yet, I highly recommend it. It has a ceramic option, but I have the standard version. Either version is a paint peeling monster though. Marshall head neck pick up version is also great and complements the Timberwolf well.
Great video and comparison as always Kyle!
Marshallhead is one of my favorite pickups, it's so mean! I'd love to try some of his hotter pickups at some point!
Have the Timbre Wolf and Monkeybucker here. By far the best pickups i ever played, and Wolfe is a really cool guy to deal.
@@Matheuszalenski agreed and nice set up! He doesn’t seem to offer the money bucker currently but I was curious to hear it. How would you describe it and what do you like to use it for?
@@thetribalist6923 Monkeybucker is an A8 pickup. It have a little more gain, the highs are open as hell, but to my ears it sounds not as tight as the Timbre Wolfe on the lower side.
If you talk with Wolfe he can offer you the Monkeybucker. In my case, he sent me an extra A5 magnet. I swaped the A8 for the A5 and it sounded ever better... The A5 made the pickup more tight, controled, while the A8 screams a lot ALL the frequencies.
It's a very good pickup, but is hard to beat the Timbre Wolfe.
Tried a lot of other pickups, but the Timbre sounds agressive, tight, open and a bit scooped, what i really like because i control the mids on my amps.
@@Matheuszalenski you summed up my thoughts on the Timbre. I have a 6505+ and with all the mids it has, a slightly scooped pickup really helps balance each other. Have you tried it with an ebony neck? It sounds perfect. I don’t even really need an OD to boost it. Made my SG sound more full like a Les Paul according to one of my tone snob friends, but it still stays tight.
I’ll definitely have to look into the Moneybucker. I have two guitars with Timbres in them because I love that pick up so much haha. I’ve also wanted to try the Blisterbucker. From the description, it sounds even meaner than the Timbre.
To my ears that Mezzabarbara didn't come close to being more punchy, or percussive than the SLO. I was really looking forward to hearing it (I've never heard one)....but, it sounds flubby and fizzy to me. The SLO was tighter, with more punch and mid-focus. Maybe in the room it's different. That said, pulling that gain back a bit to match the tone it was originally designed for back in '88, showcases the SLO much better. Mike Soldano didn't have "chuggers" in mind when designing this.
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i agree with you
@@Walkerbjj.... a BIG part of this is how this guy dials in these amps. I still haven't heard a Mezzabarbara, but with all due respect to this guy, he dials in so much gain for his style, you can't really get a bead on any one given amp. The SLO shines on it's crunch channel...or the overdrive channel on a very low setting (IMO). The SLO for my style is still one of the holy grail amps....that and a Splawn Quickrod.👍
@@phillamoore157 I play many styles but the heavy range goes from Every Time I Die to Between the Buried and Me. I have an SLO 100, Soldano Hot Rod 50+, and Bogner Ecstasy. I can dial any of them in to nail what I need. I’m also a big fan of Quickrods. Scott builds some sick amps. I’ve had a Quickrod and 2 competitions
@@Walkerbjj That sounds glorious. I'll have to live vicariously through you with that amp room you have. I had to sacrifice some gear for a studio build. But, I could get lost for days in an amp room like that. I probably got a few years on you, which is why I prefer the lower gain settings on these amps (at least b today's standards). I grew up on 70's/80's hard rock, where most of those amps were 60's plexi's. To my ear the amp loses character once the gain get's to a certain point. I still don't know how you young guys can differentiate between a Boogie, or a Bogner with the gain dimed! You have ear drums made from titanium....lol.
I'm a Peavey 5150 II guy. So my pick is for the Soldano.
Have both, you'd be surprised how different they sound in the room. 5150 has a LOT more gain and punch.
I prefer the SLO but they are both great. So I would run two 4x12 cabs with both amps and rip peoples face off. Huge tone.
Both of these amps are very good build-quality. They also cost a fortune.
I can get close to these with my Boss Katana head on the "brown" channel.
Uhhh no my friend 😅 It's worth your dollar trust me I have a boss Katana Artist MKII and it can not hold a candle to the SLO-100. There is something to be said for the cascading gain it does and how it plays under your finger tips. Imagine throwing a rock on a lake and there is the center dense spot with weight then the ripples or it's like a butterfly taking off from your feet board, there is this fluttering rippling cascading feel taking place. It's extremely unique and once you play it you will truly understand why this is such an iconic legendary amp
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I like the Soldano more because its more open sounding to me with a touch more lower mids... that's my thing.
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I've owned many Soldano SLO100s in my lifetime including serial no. 006 and 008. I recently bought a MZero and although sound is a subjective thing, I can can honestly say with a well founded opinion, that the MZero is a SLO100 on steroids. It definitely has more gain and IMO sounds noticeably better for soloing.
Having both, in my opinion the Soldano is an all-round amplifier but with a less percussive and more rock sounding than heavy metal while the Mezzabarba, despite having the same preamp as the SLO, has a power amp that brings it closer to a Marshall, it has overall more gain, a decidedly more percussive sound and is therefore more suited to Heavy sounds. The fact that the Mezza has three channels and also midi controls, however, certainly makes it very interesting among the Soldano-derived amplifiers
Awesome coheed and cambria
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To my ear, once you up the presence on SLO, it becomes closer to Mezza. Before that, SLO always has more lower mid. Overall both amp sounds very nice.
Can I put my question for next QnA here.
I like to listen amp comparison like this. Yet, I still use multimedia speaker on my PC. Do you think studio monitor will be more useful ?
Or a quality pair of headphones would be better and cheaper for you i reckon than the multimedia speaker
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I ran across an old video from years ago where a guy did a side by side of a 6505 and an SLO and there was very little difference between the two
Ahh the good ol days of UA-cam. I member too
Ilike the Mezzabarba
The SLO is still the best take on this kinda circuit including all of the 5150 variants imo (they sound very thicc and mix ready but are boring). The SLO has the most mojo of them all. Sounds like it's the most alive of them all if you know what I mean. Organic, not sterile at all. The Mezza is cool too but the aggression it gains I would add by some kind of coloring drive pedal.
5150 variants?
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I don't play metal but those overdriven tones at the end with the active pickups make me want to. Do you need a noise gate in that scenario?
You'll probably want one, yes.
@@belligerentamateur thanks!
What's the riff at 6:32? Great vid!
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In this comparison both sounds great but considering the versatility that come from the feedback control and the quality of each component in the MZero (hand-made / point to point) IMHO Mezzabarba win hand down...
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o Soldano é mto mais amp,,esse som dele, amoooooooooooooooo
Very cool video bro. And i see a lot of people going for the SLO and i get it. Its a killer amp witha lot of heritage and an amazing rock/metal credentials. But if its brutal metal and cut through like a knife its the mezzabarba 100%. Yes you can make the slo sound great and actually close but then all you have to do is twick the mezza and it always has another gear . Problem is the price . Im sure that in the amp market the slo will always hold it value better than most amps and I bet that is also another of the factors that people look at. But for me the slo is an amazing machine that just met its match and if the truth be known. It was tested measured and was found lacking. The mezza is a legend killer
when I bought my Mezzabarba MZero a year ago, the Soldano amps were hard to come by and I wanted a metal amp and MZero delivers plus scored on sale for less than an SLO amp. Played SLO 30 nice amp.
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I was expecting to like the Mezza better because it is a newer amp and figured they one upped the Soldano...... I prefer the soldano in this clip
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I prefer the lows of the SLO slightly, but overall I would rather have the MZ because of the grittier high-end. It just has a touch more "character" IMO.
I agree here
Mezzabarba seems tighter on the low end, still prefer the Trinity. Did you get the Mezzabarba 4x12 cabinet locally?
I did
@@belligerentamateur Thanks. New @ a dealer? I haven't found anything close.
Have you compared the Trinity to the Mzero and if so what are your thoughts? I had a Trinity and the new SLO I prefer the SLO. Never had any experience with the Mzero
I have, made a video on it! You can search it and all my thoughts are there.
The SLO 100 👍
The mezza sounds better to my ears. Both are killer amps
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Sick
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SLO
i wish they were less Spendy...
IR i tried was real sick
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Played a new Soldano SLO recently and not as good as the Mezzabarba for high gain without a boost pedal. So Mzero wins in my book for thrash metal. Soldano still great and if I did not have the Mzero would get it for resale value and history.
What's up Kyle
Yo my man!
VERDICT: Rack 'em both and run 'em in stereo.
I have both the slo30 and the mezzabarba skill 30… and hands done how the skill 30 and will never part with it. My slo30 is on sale now … lol
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They’re really close. I’m a mix nobody could tell the difference. Overall they’re so close that I think the slightest of differences would make a person pick one over the other.
I have to mostly agree with this. People saying one crushes the other re basically just showing their brand bias.
@@belligerentamateur Definitely! Stand alone tones I lean on the Mezz because I can hear that Marshall-type mid tone but I do dig that rounded sound of the SLO.
You crushed it with the comparison!
Had the SLO30
Horrible build quality
Mezzabarba sounded much tighter.
5:17 the SLO here is louder
I can very quickly tell that the MZero wins this with that extra touch of aggression and clarity.
Still, at this price point I'd rather go for a VH 4 where it feels like you get more for your money and I actually really like it. I tried the Slo 30 and wasn't a big fan.
Diezel or ENGL for the win. Diezel VH4 or ENGL Savage for many tone choices. I have Mezzabarba a great amp but would get different choice now.
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Mezzabara or JCM2000/DSL100 ?
Mezza
Mezzabarba for the win. Seems like kyle was just trying to dial the soldano to sound as good.
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I have owned both brands and currently own the SLO-30 and Skill 30. Mezzabarba has better build quality, and if you need it, a MUCH better clean with plenty of volume. I know folks don't buy these amps for cleans, but honestly thy should. Fender quality cleans all day long and I like the loop in the Mezzabarba as well. Both are great amps, but if you are paying this much might as well have 2 STELLAR channels, not 1.
Honestly I really can't decide which I like better. I think they both sound amazing. Maybe the very slightest of edges to the Soldano to my ear. I really do love both.
Both are incredible!
SLO 100 for the win 🏁
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I would want the MB for rhythm because that perceived thinness is gonna leave more room for the bassist and kick. For solos I like the smooth sweetness in the soldano.
Makes sense!
I want that Les Paul
Me too
Soldano was the clear winner for me
Don't forget kids you can mod your amps , my SLO 100 is sitting at Dave Friedman's shop as we speak 🎸🎛️
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I like the extra focus on the mezzabarba and the ability to control the feel a little but the slo is thicker and has more character its not so smooth and vanilla and doesn't come across thin at all compared to the mezza. Also the switching on the front panel seals the deal SLO for the win but very close and personal taste after playing both is always recommended \m/
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Mezza. Options
This
They're very close. Considering the SLO is 500 (!!) more expensive than the Mezza in Europe, not sure it's worth it.
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VHT/Fryette UL kills both imo. That amp has ruined tight rhythm amp GAS for me lol
Completely different sounding amps, lol
this channel just reminds me i need money 🤣
OOPS
Kyle do a sunn beta lead head!!
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well since I already own a slo100 I'm gonna say soldano. they are to close imo to buy the mzero and I love my slo
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SLO 100
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You need to play leads
you need to play leads
6:11 wtf? lol
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Mezzabarba MZero
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My two cents,
Firstly is that you really didn't set them both at noon, the mzero has Increments 1-10 were as the slo is 1-11 . That is a dramatic difference in tonal change when you talk full sweep of the Pitentiameter on both. Awesome video btw!!!
That's a good one! Thanks man!
No amp touches the SLO
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Soldano is the Real thing and put a new standard on great records and live performances of famous artists , like Gary Moore , Van Halen , Clapton , Mick Mars and so on...and they bought these Amps and don't use it just for endorsement or because the factory sent them amps for free.
Meza was made 30 years later , and started just copyng Soldano amps....here in Italy...Brunetti...Cicognani...not bad amps ...but far from being innovative and pioneering stuff...
The slo wins.
Respect to the SLO but Boogie is the Godfather of high gain with the Mark series. Real nice top on that LP. It photographs really well.
I was considering a Mezzabarba until I watched this video, it sounds like a toy next to the Soldano. I’ve had a Soldano before, and I did expect it to sound better before clicking on this, but I didn’t think it would be the difference of a Ferrari vs a Fiat…no disrespect to any Fiat owners. Both are great, but not even close to being in the same class
You have to watch with the volume on, Tom.
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Go with the original real deal, no need for copy/clones. SLO100 is the king.
John, you're a funny guy.