@@bernhardtsuballa5341 Selbst günstige Hersteller wie Forster setzen auf GFK. Nicht umsonst wird dieses Material auch in der Flugzeugindustrie verwendet. Holz ist nach 15 Jahren fertig und verfault. Leider selbst erlebt mit meinem Alten Bj 2003, und das ohne Leckagen. Feuchtigkeit wandert einfach ins Material. Daher baut kaum ein Hersteller noch auf Holz, nachhaltig hin oder her.
This seems to be a very old type of construction. Most British caravans are built to a much high spec. Fully bonded sides and roof and floor. The last time I had a caravan with the sides built with a wooden frame was back in the 1970's. My last Caravan was fully bonded sides and are much lighter and stronger.
Unfortunately none of you negative commenter’s have any building experience or common sense. Steel is very heavy. Most vans on the road are only just compliant with legislation for towing capacities. A lot of vehicle can’t tow vans now because they are too heavy. Aluminium is weak and oxidizers with sweat when you screw sheeting straight to it.
Ojalá en el futuro el you tube tenga la opción de traducir lo que hablan en otro idioma ya que se ven que son temas de interés común en muchas partes del mundo, sería una ayuda fantástica y mayor asercamiento para contactos.
THIS IS WHY WE MADE A DECISION TO BUY AN OLDER TRAILER AND RESTORE IT. WE NOW HAVE A SOLID WELL BUILT TRAILER WITH EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT IN IT. THE NEW 2020 TRAILERS ARE VERY CHEAPLY MADE AND TO GET A DECENT ONE THAT IS VERY WELL BUILD CAN COST 50 THOUSAND + 13% TAXES ON TOP AND THATS FOR A 26 FOOTER HERE IN CANADA. WE LOOKED AT THE 2020 COACHMAN 20 RBS AND THAT IS A VERY WELL BUILT TRAILER BUT LIKE I SAID 46000 PLUS TAX. THESE TRAILERS NOWADAYS HAVE EVERY GADGET KNOWN TO MAN IN THEM WHICH IS JUST MORE TO GO WRONG AND BELIEVE ME IT DOES CAUSE YOUR ON THE ROAD = VIBRATION!
I'm a true-blue dinky di patriotic Aussie looking to buy a caravan. Seen heaps of Australian made caravans, and European caravans. European design and build quality is years ahead of Australian ones (and not over-priced). Looking forward to seeing European caravans adapted for Australia (which is being done now). No, I don't know a thing about caravan manufacture, but constantly look at European caravans features and think "that's intelligent, why don't Aussie caravan builders do that".
@@r.k862 I guess it depends on whether you want an off road or on road caravan. I've stopped actively keeping abreast of what's good and what's not in 2021. Plenty of good groups to answer your question on FB. Cheers
Because Sandy, Most Australian caravan builders haven't realised that we're now in the 21st century. They're one group of manufacturers who don't build to AS9001. Timber, a bit of broken styrofoam here and there (they call that insulation!) and someone's old garden shed for the side walls. Oh, and did I mention overpriced?
@@coover65 Well, if you've actually used it, you'll know that pursuit of ISO9001 becomes an end in itself and is no guarantee of a quality product. I've seen it many times in many industries. It becomes a distraction and a drain on resources; particularly for smaller companies.
looked like white foam panels (?) i know its not lids from Styrofoam coolers but something similar in appearance, didnt look like enough of em. about 3 minutes into it roughly at 3:48 into vid yellow bat insulation on roof.
To be fair to the Aussies. They don’t need to build them like we do in UK. Their climate is amazing. Why would they over engineer & increase productivity costs. It simply isn’t needed over there. No rain no rot. Simples.
Ben, are you saying that plane wings are made of wood??? There's a website from an Australian caravan repairer who shows a lot (an I mean A LOT) of Australian built vans (including the big names in Australian caravan manufacturers) that have extensive wood rot set in before they're even 5 years old. How are "Australian conditions" any different to roads, weather and humidity in say Spain, Greece, or Serbia (where there are crap roads). How many Aussie caravans are built to AS9001?
You live in a country were humidity is very high and timber is still they main building material even in cyclone rated areas. It gives versatility if you want to add extra windows or electrical later on down the track. You should think before you rudely comment on something you have no idea about.
Hola no sé si de qué parte de España seguí o si seguí de fuera de España tengo una caravana a burning 530 y en el techo tengo un poco de bolsa de aire mi pensamiento por falta de conocimiento es que me gustaría encontrar los listones de madera o los nervios de madera del techo para anclarle unos tornillos y así que estuviera más pegado el techo a los listones me ponías orientar por favor a como encontrarlo listones de madera del techo
It look 100s better constructed than the carvans I have been looking to buy in the UK, I was surprised when I got under them, no full metal chassis like the flat bed they started with in this video just I much less substantial frame that connects the wheels and tow bar some out riggers as towards the corners, much less substantial i europe ( I'm in UK )
Got to be fair ,I own a 2010 ,concept caravan and it looks pretty week the way thay building it , but mine hasn't had any major issues, and has been in gale forse winds and handled it ,and rain etc I have looked after it as in wood preservative underneath and fishaline on the chassis etc
My 27 year old Australian made motor home has a metal plate and flooring sits on top of it. No water ingress at all. There is nothing to protect from water in this construction.
Couldn't agree more. To give the caravan a nice look the roof lining overhang is trimmed off and a nice corner edge is applied. You now rely 100% on silicone or caulking to protect your investment under this corner. That overhang could have been bent over the wall to flash the van so no water ever got in from the roof. What a joke.
Mark B yeah you can. I just did. you are limited by the order it was put together if you only want to take some apart. I just spent two months rebuilding one. just buy one that doesn't need rot repair. ac, lights, flooring, appliances are easy to replace.
Is it not an OH & S issue to make your workers drink a slab of Red Bull to get them to work that fast? Oh, and for all the dummies on here, that was a joke. Only on youtube would I need to clarify that
Like I said in the last part of my comment, that was a JOKE. I also stated that only on UA-cam do I need to clarify this for dummies. I guess I know which category you fit into
Livi Tubo I have a sense of humour. It appears others feel they can criticise me but when I answer back, they get all defensive. Oops, better put a smiley face there :)
Nothing like a glued and stapled paddle pop stick van! Glad I bought a bushtracker! Not to mention how quickly they are slapping it together. Wonder what sealants they use? sikaflex? I think not....
this is how how all light weight caravans are made, or else they would weigh 5 metric tons, and would be to heavy for a average car. and don't say that this way of building is crap, because i'm from holland europe, and in germany they have Tabbert caravans, and we call them the mercedes of caravans because they last easely 30 up to 40 years, so no crappo. Look at the latest Tabbert with a slide out. they are stunningly beautyfull, because the interior looks like from an expensive yacht. /watch?v=XT8A4fhD-x8&nohtml5=False
Caravan built in this video never leaked Neville. Are you implying that it did? Please provide more info than your original general statement or clarify your individual experience of this product leaking.
Maybe rename this video "how caravans are made by amateurs". Seriously guys, remove this video before you embarrass Australians in the global caravan building industry. "Made for Australian conditions"?? What, you think they don't have beaches, gravel roads and hot dry areas in parts of Europe? Love the bits of Styrofoam offcuts that you probably call "insulation"! BTW, you missed "insulating" the front. Shudder to think the build quality (and the ridiculous price).
3/4 inch ridged insulation on the sides, maybe 2 inches on top, none elsewhere - lots of gaps, side skins installed top down instead of bottom up (potential for lots of leaks). I know that they must be kept light weight, so you wouldn't need a MAC truck to pull, and usually, they are only to last 10-15 years on average.
This video contains all the reasons to never buy anything from this company. It is, unintentionally, a consumer warning video, alerting potential buyers to look elsewhere for high build standards, good design and quality components, longevity and value for money.
@@garethnagle2060 Someone quite familiar with the construction methods and materials used in the leisure caravan trailer manufacturing industry! And the problems associated with those methods and materials! Even if that featured trailer was sited and never towed, it would still fail in the known failure points of these shoddy trailers that are thrown together in this way! With it being towed the failures will occur much faster as the entire thing flexes, warps and leaks. I trust this answers your question.
Constructed like 60 years ago, incredible!!! . European makers use composite materials that don´t rot.
@@bernhardtsuballa5341 Sorry, you are wrong.
Composite materials have been standard here for at least ten years.
@@bernhardtsuballa5341 Selbst günstige Hersteller wie Forster setzen auf GFK. Nicht umsonst wird dieses Material auch in der Flugzeugindustrie verwendet. Holz ist nach 15 Jahren fertig und verfault. Leider selbst erlebt mit meinem Alten Bj 2003, und das ohne Leckagen. Feuchtigkeit wandert einfach ins Material. Daher baut kaum ein Hersteller noch auf Holz, nachhaltig hin oder her.
This seems to be a very old type of construction. Most British caravans are built to a much high spec. Fully bonded sides and roof and floor. The last time I had a caravan with the sides built with a wooden frame was back in the 1970's. My last Caravan was fully bonded sides and are much lighter and stronger.
Have a look underneath absolutely a joke ,thay break all the time in New Zealand
Really? you're proud of that construction method, that was 2012, I certainly hope the build materials have been updated since this was made.
Fantastic video, thoroughly enjoyed it, thanks. 😊
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Quality popsicle stick build
Unfortunately none of you negative commenter’s have any building experience or common sense. Steel is very heavy. Most vans on the road are only just compliant with legislation for towing capacities. A lot of vehicle can’t tow vans now because they are too heavy. Aluminium is weak and oxidizers with sweat when you screw sheeting straight to it.
I love this house sir.
I built one in less time myself. And it was was great
Can you teach me ?
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Good work 🌞👍
If wooden framework is all that builds up the walls then no wonder that caravans in general are not very strong.
Yeah a aluminum skeleton combined with the wood would be stronger
I think bricks would be to heavy to tow around
THIS IS WHY WE MADE A DECISION TO BUY AN OLDER TRAILER AND RESTORE IT. WE NOW HAVE A SOLID WELL BUILT TRAILER WITH EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT IN IT. THE NEW 2020 TRAILERS ARE VERY CHEAPLY MADE AND TO GET A DECENT ONE THAT IS VERY WELL BUILD CAN COST 50 THOUSAND + 13% TAXES ON TOP AND THATS FOR A 26 FOOTER HERE IN CANADA. WE LOOKED AT THE 2020 COACHMAN 20 RBS AND THAT IS A VERY WELL BUILT TRAILER BUT LIKE I SAID 46000 PLUS TAX. THESE TRAILERS NOWADAYS HAVE EVERY GADGET KNOWN TO MAN IN THEM WHICH IS JUST MORE TO GO WRONG AND BELIEVE ME IT DOES CAUSE YOUR ON THE ROAD = VIBRATION!
I'm a true-blue dinky di patriotic Aussie looking to buy a caravan. Seen heaps of Australian made caravans, and European caravans. European design and build quality is years ahead of Australian ones (and not over-priced). Looking forward to seeing European caravans adapted for Australia (which is being done now). No, I don't know a thing about caravan manufacture, but constantly look at European caravans features and think "that's intelligent, why don't Aussie caravan builders do that".
i live in Australia, do you know what brand names are good built quality ones around the $50,000 mark brand new?
@@r.k862 I guess it depends on whether you want an off road or on road caravan. I've stopped actively keeping abreast of what's good and what's not in 2021. Plenty of good groups to answer your question on FB. Cheers
A lot of work goes into these quality caravans :)
Because Sandy, Most Australian caravan builders haven't realised that we're now in the 21st century. They're one group of manufacturers who don't build to AS9001. Timber, a bit of broken styrofoam here and there (they call that insulation!) and someone's old garden shed for the side walls. Oh, and did I mention overpriced?
I'm only watching to see how to build one myself im12 and my dad and I want to build one
Do you even know what is in AS9001?
@@jonathanrabbitt Used to know it back to front. Haven't kept up with revisions though.
@@coover65 Well, if you've actually used it, you'll know that pursuit of ISO9001 becomes an end in itself and is no guarantee of a quality product. I've seen it many times in many industries. It becomes a distraction and a drain on resources; particularly for smaller companies.
No insulation on the front panel, polystyrene or glass fibre??!
Bravissimi!!!!!
I’m glad I own a Lance 2285, I’ve run over bumps and pot holes on the 5 and 10 that would wreck this trailer. Happy camping, aloha.
Are 2x4s strong enough to not have a wreck or wind problems if you pull a trailer built from them on the freeway? Thanks.
Great job..I love it love it love it
Did I miss the insulation part or was it insulation board?
looked like white foam panels (?) i know its not lids from Styrofoam coolers but something similar in appearance, didnt look like enough of em. about 3 minutes into it roughly
at 3:48 into vid yellow bat insulation on roof.
@@jeepsanddragons MRc💋❤
@@jeepsanddragons A
5 days to build a tiny blob! We blast out 18 statics a day where I work
look so cheap yet so expensive in here
Somewhat hellish.
To be fair to the Aussies. They don’t need to build them like we do in UK. Their climate is amazing. Why would they over engineer & increase productivity costs. It simply isn’t needed over there. No rain no rot. Simples.
I like watching time-lapse
Muy linda me estoy fabricando la mía saludos cordiales desde Colombia buenos proyectos un abrazo sincero
Good work!!!!!
Perfect
Hello, I have been doing furniture and caravan business for 25 years from Turkey. Do we have a chance to meet you privately.
Why no waterproofing under it, it will be done in like 4 years,
It seems to be build using prefab kits
Ben, are you saying that plane wings are made of wood???
There's a website from an Australian caravan repairer who shows a lot (an I mean A LOT) of Australian built vans (including the big names in Australian caravan manufacturers) that have extensive wood rot set in before they're even 5 years old. How are "Australian conditions" any different to roads, weather and humidity in say Spain, Greece, or Serbia (where there are crap roads).
How many Aussie caravans are built to AS9001?
Ok....I'm confused, did they run the siding, from top to bottom?!!
Easy...........I’ll do that this weekend...............😂😂😂👍🏴🤪
that rolling awning looks awesome..where can i find it ?
Crazy
I built a smaller one and video the entire process
You live in a country were humidity is very high and timber is still they main building material even in cyclone rated areas. It gives versatility if you want to add extra windows or electrical later on down the track. You should think before you rudely comment on something you have no idea about.
The mark up on cost. To build $4,000 but you only pay $30,000. A great deal. BUILD YOUR OWN OR RENT>
Wouldnt touch a wooden frame van with a barge pole .
Hola no sé si de qué parte de España seguí o si seguí de fuera de España tengo una caravana a burning 530 y en el techo tengo un poco de bolsa de aire mi pensamiento por falta de conocimiento es que me gustaría encontrar los listones de madera o los nervios de madera del techo para anclarle unos tornillos y así que estuviera más pegado el techo a los listones me ponías orientar por favor a como encontrarlo listones de madera del techo
wow a lot of work mmmmm
Same sort of construction was/is used in the U.K.-- with the same problems......
2012 and the use Wood . in sweden you couldent sell a Caravan build like this. Wake up and use modern teknik
They are made of wood to flex on our rough roads, Alum fatigues and cracks,
Just found rotten wood around the window in mine , you would think thay would use treated timber
Why are there gas bottles on the drawbar during construction?
for tea breaks
Bel lavoro...
Is there any kind of silencer because I heard that when it rains it will be a bad voice noise .. Is there a solitary heat
the floor is not insulated at all?
Shocking build quality, alright if they gave them away free but would not like to have to pay for one.
It look 100s better constructed than the carvans I have been looking to buy in the UK, I was surprised when I got under them, no full metal chassis like the flat bed they started with in this video just I much less substantial frame that connects the wheels and tow bar some out riggers as towards the corners, much less substantial i europe ( I'm in UK )
Got to be fair ,I own a 2010 ,concept caravan and it looks pretty week the way thay building it , but mine hasn't had any major issues, and has been in gale forse winds and handled it ,and rain etc I have looked after it as in wood preservative underneath and fishaline on the chassis etc
Is this from the 1970s grp composite panals???
My 27 year old Australian made motor home has a metal plate and flooring sits on top of it. No water ingress at all. There is nothing to protect from water in this construction.
Will last about 60 months
I really don't know why I bother reading the haters comments.
Wow - that looks soooooo 1980s.......
Just wood?
? how many days did yous do one caravan
Insulation installation is appalling, absolutely awful, I would hate to be paying for this with the expectation that the van will be fully insulated.
this type of construction is good for business , but it take's all the fun out off being a trade's man
No wonder they don't fare well in accidents.
Wooden ones or composite ones?
cheap and nasty construction. im sure others are similar...but now I really appreciate how they rot so easy...
bike mad construktum caravan
Couldn't agree more. To give the caravan a nice look the roof lining overhang is trimmed off and a nice corner edge is applied. You now rely 100% on silicone or caulking to protect your investment under this corner. That overhang could have been bent over the wall to flash the van so no water ever got in from the roof. What a joke.
Absolutely disagree. Our Innovation was the best caravan we have owned...and this was our fifth caravan. Good on you Concept.
anyone know if you can dismantle a caravan with minimal damage? any youtube videos?
Mark B yeah you can. I just did. you are limited by the order it was put together if you only want to take some apart. I just spent two months rebuilding one. just buy one that doesn't need rot repair. ac, lights, flooring, appliances are easy to replace.
good.
no inside pics?
É bonito, porém de estrutura muito frágil
Does anyone know how long this caravan is?
What material is the edging used?
Its simply a decorative trim piece, which will do absolutely nothing to keep water from entering behind the wall panels and roof fabric...
I prefer metal framing.
ja ja ja maybe camera man was not the boss otherwise the workers would not have cut corners ja ja ja ja imagie laughing like bruno hahaha
Thanks for sharing, no wonder junk in a few years. Over priced turds. What not to buy, tx
Is it not an OH & S issue to make your workers drink a slab of Red Bull to get them to work that fast? Oh, and for all the dummies on here, that was a joke. Only on youtube would I need to clarify that
Like I said in the last part of my comment, that was a JOKE. I also stated that only on UA-cam do I need to clarify this for dummies. I guess I know which category you fit into
Yes but explaining something that was obviously a joke and then putting a smiley face at the end is a bit like saying "you're an idiot, no offence"
Livi Tubo
I have a sense of humour. It appears others feel they can criticise me but when I answer back, they get all defensive. Oops, better put a smiley face there :)
spoiler!( the other one near the caravan)
Good jooooooooooooop
so this is not a construction video is it.....an assembly video at best....
Thermal bridging
Once warrantee is over it will have no value, cost cutting at every step
3:48 smoko
Cant beat an old roma or vickers
This is a matchstick modell yeh 🤔
Rolling rot, avoid wood construction.
A stone or brick camper would be way better
?😬нет скелета из алюминия🤔вот почему наш первый караван разваливался🙄 скрепляли уголками😬
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For what they cost there's not much to them
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Let me guess, an honest politician had you believe that, Ben?
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Timber Frames I wont be buying one
Nothing like a glued and stapled paddle pop stick van!
Glad I bought a bushtracker! Not to mention how quickly they are slapping it together. Wonder what sealants they use? sikaflex? I think not....
this is how how all light weight caravans are made, or else they would weigh 5 metric tons, and
would be to heavy for a average car. and don't say that this way of building is crap,
because i'm from holland europe, and in germany they have Tabbert caravans, and we call them the mercedes
of caravans because they last easely 30 up to 40 years, so no crappo.
Look at the latest Tabbert with a slide out. they are stunningly beautyfull, because the interior
looks like from an expensive yacht.
/watch?v=XT8A4fhD-x8&nohtml5=False
Like Mercedes cars last 30 - 40 years - yeah, right.
Come si verniciato un camper
There all built the same it dont matter the company , only airstream does quality and thats why there so expensive....
It’s no wonder they leak
Caravan built in this video never leaked Neville. Are you implying that it did? Please provide more info than your original general statement or clarify your individual experience of this product leaking.
Drive too fast it blows apart. Now I k now why tooth picks come with so many in a box, they also use them for rv frames.
Why wasnt the front insulated?
Not isolation
Those were old build crappy caravan.
Now, we have brand new modern build crappy caravan.
americans just slap some wood together and call it names.. thats why european made stuff last 30 years
During Trump's Second term he's going to give sleepy Joe a Televised kiss on the cheek
Pure fantasy.
Maybe rename this video "how caravans are made by amateurs". Seriously guys, remove this video before you embarrass Australians in the global caravan building industry. "Made for Australian conditions"?? What, you think they don't have beaches, gravel roads and hot dry areas in parts of Europe?
Love the bits of Styrofoam offcuts that you probably call "insulation"! BTW, you missed "insulating" the front. Shudder to think the build quality (and the ridiculous price).
i agree, i work in the caravan business and this is an absolute joke! if this manufacturer hasnt shut doors yet id be very supprised as to why.
Stfu bitch boy lol
3/4 inch ridged insulation on the sides, maybe 2 inches on top, none elsewhere - lots of gaps, side skins installed top down instead of bottom up (potential for lots of leaks). I know that they must be kept light weight, so you wouldn't need a MAC truck to pull, and usually, they are only to last 10-15 years on average.
@@stevojanceski because most caravans are so overpriced its easy to be profitable. you could buy a luxury car for the price you pay for these shells
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This video contains all the reasons to never buy anything from this company.
It is, unintentionally, a consumer warning video, alerting potential buyers to look elsewhere for high build standards, good design and quality components, longevity and value for money.
and who are you?
@@garethnagle2060 Someone quite familiar with the construction methods and materials used in the leisure caravan trailer manufacturing industry!
And the problems associated with those methods and materials!
Even if that featured trailer was sited and never towed, it would still fail in the known failure points of these shoddy trailers that are thrown together in this way!
With it being towed the failures will occur much faster as the entire thing flexes, warps and leaks.
I trust this answers your question.
@@felixcat9318 have you been to Traveller Caravans
@@kingston9248 That's not something I would be likely to do.
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