Great video, Wayne. We have a Mariner 4 inflatable raft that we use for floating Missouri streams. It will take a trolling motor with additional motor mount but that isn't how we use it. It just proves - there is a boat for everybody!
Great info! I own one of those Hankai 6HP motors, and it's basically a Tohatsu knockoff, everything from Tohatsu is compatible with it. So you can say it gets better over time.
I like your videos Wayne. I recently purchased a 1976 sea sprite, with an 85HP evinrude 2 stroke for $3000 from the original owner. It's my first boat, and I wet sanded and buffed the top and hull to a mirror shine. I replaced the old and torn seats and carpet. I made a new bimini and cover on my sewing machine. I replaced the old wiring and fuel lines and sanded and varnished the teak fiddles on the closed bow. I cleaned the carbs and fitted new seals and water pump and the gear oil and new plugs. It took about 3 weeks of hard work, and it's the talk of the dock when we arrive at the lake. And I only invested about $1500 over the purchase price. I learned all of this stuff from wonderful people like you, who post your knowledge on UA-cam. Thank you!!
I wanted new, had enough B/S from a used Trans Am where I knew I wanted new when I got into Boating. Academy Sports had a Alumacraft 1232 Jon Boat for $899 that can take up to a 7hp motor. Originally used a trolling motor with it, but quickly realized I needed more gruff. So a 6hp Mercury 4 stroke was on sale bran new $1600 after taxes with a 5 year factory warranty! This little kicker motor get's my Jon Boat up to 19mph with just me in it on a calm lake! 2 People she get's ehhh 16ish with ideal conditions. Grand total with a Harbor Freight trailer converted into my boat trailer I'm right around $3,000 total. I LOVE this little boat, and I've taken it on some lakes I shouldn't have lol.
Great video, and I 100% agree with buying a used boat for your first boat. If you are going to spend the money on something new, spend it on a new outboard because 99% of your problems are going to be engine problems, not boat problems. I did recently buy a new tender for my large boat and was really impressed by Saturn's Inflatable Kaboat. I bought the 14ft model. It's $799, rated at 750lb load capacity and will take up to a 10hp. With just me in the boat I can do 9mph with a Suzuki 2.5hp.
Just bought my first boat. Used. 2009 tracker guide v14 aluminum boat with a 9.9 HP Honda outboard for $3,200. It had a couple small extras too, but nothing fancy. Trailer is in good shape too. I don't know if I got a good deal or not lol, but I'm excited regardless
You don't get much for $3000.00. You started out by saying to buy a used boat and I agree. You will get a lot more for your money and most likely get a trailer included.
I have a GheeNoe made in Titusville Fla, best boat I've ever owned and only draws like 4in ! It's a cross between a canoe, a John boat, and a runabout and is very inexpensive while being rated for 5hp! It's a little more expensive at 1500 but a lot more versatile and can be found used! I bought mine 30 yrs ago and it's still great and I only gave 400 for it new that's a cost of about 13 dollars a year! I run a 35lb trolling motor on it !
Saturn Boats (among others) offers a number of different inflatable boats and "kayak boats" (narrower lines). Big advantage to lightweight inflatables is that you can haul it in a small SUV or pickup...no trailer needed. As far as engines go, a cheap Hangkai is ok to start...lots of YT vids on tips, tricks and techniques for maintenance. If you live in a colder area, they are easier to store and take up less space than a "rigid" boat and trailer in the garage or shed. They're not for everyone but it is a budget gateway boat. I saw a video of a gentleman launching directly off a relatively calm beach in the FL Gulf. He was an experienced boater and his rig was a Kayak Boat with a 10 or 15 horse....but it does demonstrate their flexibility.
I just wanted to thank you for your comeback on the comment and that's the luckiest little 9.8 horsepower Mercury I ever had when I took it to the flea market this morning was talking to gentleman about how I went through and got it all running even started it with me holding and it fired up it enough gas left in it and he said hey you know what I got a boat in the yard I want you to fix the motor on it but you have to promise to take it with you he gave me a 1987 runner with the power power on it and he said it stopped running or he ran it in an hour later he couldn't get it running I think I can work with that so good luck to you guys thank you thank you
I just bought a used boat, trailer, and engine for 800. Put about 300 into the trailer bc it was beat to hell and looks like new. The boat was recently restored but is very bare bones. So far only in around $1600 in total and its great.
Yeah I'm 60 years old I can't do new either so I just bought a Johnson and rebuilt it 9.8 at a yard sale and rebuilt the whole thing and it runs great most of those motors have very little run time on them they either got damaged or clogged carburetor and then sat in the garage forever
Since I boat alone as none of my friends are into boating with the exception of one who has a sailboat, a Seabright 230 7 foot with a Suzuki 2.5 is more than adequate for just me. It was just $1300 brand new altogether and will achieve 10mph which is already overkill as even the biggest lake in my area are less than a mile across
There's a lot of ways to look at buying a boat, and campers, etc... Most things like this, I buy used and shop for ever before getting what I'm after. Then just pay cash for it. Making payments on a complete everything setup is another way to do it with a warranty for everything, and a dealership that helps people that may not know about how to use everything, laws, recreational area rules, etc...
If the Coleman outboard motor is actually made by Tohatsu that means it’s a Japanese built motor and Tohatsu is the oldest Japanese outboard engine manufacturer
Coleman outboards are made by Parsun, Parsun is one of the biggest manufacturers in China to make outboard motors. I have a 2.6 hp 4 stroke Parsun from 2014 and it runs strong! No need to buy a Yamaha or Tohatsu.
I bought a 1986 18’ Alumacraft with a running 40 Hp Johnson for $1,100 restored it. I spent over $4,000 on it. And did all the work myself. Restored the EZ- Loader trailer too.
i got a 2 man bass boat the plastic model similar to the one you showed. i got it with seats and a 55lb minn kota trolling motor and i take me and a buddy my huge tackle box a bucket for fish and the poles and she does the job i wanna make a livewell off the side of it with a 55qt cooler. other than that i have solar powered light on front and battery operated lanterns for night fishing. and i only usually go on rivers but been looking at this 17ft jon boat with a 5hp engine and trailer for 1500 been for sale 2 years thinking about offering 1k and get her!
I like the idea of solar lights - I might play with those sometime. Moving up to a 17 ft with a 5 hp - you'll feel like the king of the world - if you can land it for 1k - that's a nice win!!!
New is nice, but I picked up a 14 foot v bottom with trailer, 15 h.p. evinrude, oars, life jacket and depth finder for $ 675. It doesn,t leak and starts on the first pull. Hard deal to beat.
I bought a 12 foot sun dolphin Jon boat for $550 with a trailer from academy for $800. Picked up a 6hp mercury from west marine for $1700. All brand new for 3K it’s an alright little boat for 2 people goes about 13-14mph
Depends on what you do. I don't care to have anyone along when I fish. It's a solitary experience. The Twin Troller is a little pricey. But it is completely awesome. The 2.5 hp engine is enough to get me around small areas of the lake. And the two trolling motors underneath make maneuverability a breeze!
I got given a 12 foot porta bote and just ordered an Amazon special 3.6 2 stroke should do better then my 55lb thrust trolling motor set up I had for my canoe
Ah yes - Porta Bote - I only learned about them this summer! Pretty cool boats. That Amazon motor might be be pretty loud but it will be faster than an electric motor. I recently compared the pro's and con's of a small gas motor to an electric trolling motor - ua-cam.com/video/nnHdCgLXURI/v-deo.html
My Stumpknocker with a 6hp Merc and custom Aluminum trailer just went up in value ! It's Fiberglass, was built locally in 1971, still more boat than the 1436 !
I have the 12 ft tracker. I liked the 12ft better. If you look. The 14ft has flotation blocks built into the transom compartment. The 12ft doesn't. My gas tank fits in there. It would not on the 14ft. The coleman motor was my first choice too. After one season it just wasn't enough power. I got a SEAPRO 10hp and put 5hp stickers on it. Now it fishes and hauls a load of gear and 2 people.. I can run 20mph with the top up.
Hey I just got a 16ft deep and wide John boat, this thing is heavy and big. I’m pretty sure I’ll need a 50hp-75hp motor. I was looking at buying a used and possibly broken motor because of how expensive they are.
Sundolphin american 12 jon boat holds over 500lbs,rated for 6hp weights 110 lbs and only $650 Coleman 2.6hp around $600 All fits in a truck bed,can be loaded,unloaded and launched anywhere by 1 man. Not sure why it was overlooked but its a capable 8mph 2 person rig for under $1300. Maybe just my opinion but thats the best budget 2 man ,new rig to get you out there.if i had 3k to spend just to get out there,theres plenty used 16-18ft welded aluminium boats with 40-70 2 strokes with trailers for that price.
I did not that Sun Dolphin available anywhere and couldn't find a price for it - (hopefully that will all change soon) but it looks like a great little boat!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy its a typical hdpe flexy plastic boat,but for the price and launch anywhere boat....hard to beat. Your video was good,jyst wondering why you let that option out. Thanx and keep up the good work
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Please disregard what I posted, it was based on an older model I had seen which is completely different these days, they are water cooled now. Coleman has these made in China, much like everybody else's small outboards.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy You ain't kiddin, lol..I have the Ascend 128T right now, but I'm looking at the Ascend 133x or the Jonny Boats Bass 100. Have you looked at the Jonny Boats Bass 100? It's an awesome little Kayak. It reminds me of the Pelican Power 100, but it's $100 cheaper and it's NOT a 2 piece Yak. I'm gonna buy 1 of those this week, but I can't quite decide which to buy. I actually can't find the Ascend 133x..
Unfortunately you can’t get a new Tracker Topper, they stopped manufacturing jon boats in 2020, and so far 2021. I’ve been calling everywhere and all the dealerships told me the same thing. They might start back production again but no timetable yet.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy oh yeah it’s like a 60’s model the company that made it went out of business years ago Been in my family all it’s life but it’s floats just like a new one
If you buy a cheap enough motor - buy a second for parts. You can then determine the weak points of failure on the motor and have better components fabricated to avoid issue in the future
They're made by a Chinese company called Parsun. Apparently many parts are identical to some older Yamaha parts as the Parsun/Coleman is a copy of that.
The inflatable boats you presented are not Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB), but Soft Inflatable Boat (SIB). To be classified as Rigid, you need a rigid hull, mostly fiber glass. The SIB are rubber but with inflatable floor or aluminium removable floor.
I always like your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm curious if you have any recommendations(or if anyone else does too) for a boat that I can take in the bay on the shallows, the eastern shore and up the rivers of the Triadelphia. I'm looking at used for two reasons. First and foremost the price. Second, I'm pretty handy so I could do a lot of any work myself on the boat if needed.
I have found that being out on the bay in a 19 foot boat isn't bad on a calmer day, but I have turned back around a few times in a 19 ft boat. If you're going in the shallows, some of those Whalers might work ok. Many of us have two "boats" so we can cover more territory. This summer we hope to bring our kayaks on our big boat so we can anchor close to a shallow area and kayak in.
Hey Wayne, Although I've been boating for many years, I've enjoyed many of your videos. I have an idea for another video for you. Having boated all my life in the west where we seem to always have floating docks, the pier type you seem to have in the east are very foreign to me. How to you tie up to them accounting for the tide, and get on and off?
Yeah fixed piers are much more challenging! We do occasionally have to check and re-tie our boats when the tides are exceptionally high or low! Some local marinas have been considering upgrading to floating, but the costs are higher. Thank you for the idea and for watching!!
For $3000 I could have a bass boat with a mercury 150 console driven its insane that people buy boats new to me. So far I have a 14.5 ft tri hull with a trailer and a bow mount motor guide trolling motor for $300. By the time I get a 9.9hp motor and safety gear etc I'll be at under $1000
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I mean if i wasn't mechanically inclined id lean more towards new just to not have to be worried about anything breaking for a good long time so I kinda get buying new
You gotta be nuts to buy a new boat. There are hundreds of perfectly fine old boats online for a fraction of the cost. Spend your money on a good engine, because that's what's gonna break
Wayne, did you go grab another boat? I see the 175 Yamaha here. I hear buying boats may be like getting tattoos? Once you start, it's hard to stop. LOL.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Looking forward to it. This whole new "world" of boating is addicting. I wish I would have found it decades ago. Not just being on the boat and enjoying it on the water. But, working on them and learning everything about em. Thanks for your videos and content in this new lifestyle.
Why is it that an inflatable boat is able to hold more weight that a hard boat? I like to have a high weight capacity with a hard boat In the future with better stability. I ha e a Sevolyor 360 but the floor is not stable.
That’s right! There’s nothing wrong with a simple little boat and there’s nothing wrong with dreaming about getting a bigger one! I have both and there’s many times I am very happy in my simple little one.
Ahh - I thought that any inflatable that wasn't just a soft material bottom was a RIB. Thanks! Do the RIBs have a non-removable or single section solid floor?
1st requirement: Do what you recommended 1st and buy used! Ha ha ha But if you get one used, you can get a lot of that, good setups, for your $1500, $2000
I would never buy a metal, plastic boat unless I lived near a body of water. For me it is an inflatable one (one i can easily store in the closet or folded in the garage) or none at all. The idea or dragging a heavy piece of gear like that for miles and storing it is a turn off for me. That is the single factor that is preventing many people getting into boating in the first place. Inflatables are now a decent choice for people like us starting in this hobby, cost less and many will take a gasoline engines (with some mod). Just my thought...
That's a great point because storage is an issue for many people who don't have a larger yard/garden area. I really like the small engines that have an internal fuel tank because that's even less items you have to take with you to go out on the water!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Plus now we have an option to use a trolling motor with a small LIFEPO battery which is about 1/3 weight of original and some waterproof solar charger would be nice. Not everywhere you can take a gasoline outboard on a lake. Some people might not like the hassle, noise of an gasoline engine. For me, the smell of burnt gasoline brings some childhood vacation memories from the past ;)
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That engine isn't a Tohatsu, it's made in China and rebranded. So your whole argument AGAINST the Hangkai goes the same for the engine you choose eventually.
if you are comparing the prices, welcome to contact me for aluminum fishing boat with compitive prices. Gospel boat can offer you a high-quality aluminum boat with right prices you want. welcome inquiry
Great video, Wayne. We have a Mariner 4 inflatable raft that we use for floating Missouri streams. It will take a trolling motor with additional motor mount but that isn't how we use it.
It just proves - there is a boat for everybody!
That sounds like fun!
Man! Let me tell you The Mariner 4 is built a like tank!!! I use that as a fishing vessel for a while & now I have Pelican bass raider 10e perfect!
Great info! I own one of those Hankai 6HP motors, and it's basically a Tohatsu knockoff, everything from Tohatsu is compatible with it. So you can say it gets better over time.
I like your videos Wayne. I recently purchased a 1976 sea sprite, with an 85HP evinrude 2 stroke for $3000 from the original owner. It's my first boat, and I wet sanded and buffed the top and hull to a mirror shine. I replaced the old and torn seats and carpet. I made a new bimini and cover on my sewing machine. I replaced the old wiring and fuel lines and sanded and varnished the teak fiddles on the closed bow. I cleaned the carbs and fitted new seals and water pump and the gear oil and new plugs. It took about 3 weeks of hard work, and it's the talk of the dock when we arrive at the lake. And I only invested about $1500 over the purchase price. I learned all of this stuff from wonderful people like you, who post your knowledge on UA-cam. Thank you!!
That's sooo cool! There are some neat old boats there that can really put a smile on a face! Thank you!!
I wanted new, had enough B/S from a used Trans Am where I knew I wanted new when I got into Boating. Academy Sports had a Alumacraft 1232 Jon Boat for $899 that can take up to a 7hp motor. Originally used a trolling motor with it, but quickly realized I needed more gruff. So a 6hp Mercury 4 stroke was on sale bran new $1600 after taxes with a 5 year factory warranty! This little kicker motor get's my Jon Boat up to 19mph with just me in it on a calm lake! 2 People she get's ehhh 16ish with ideal conditions. Grand total with a Harbor Freight trailer converted into my boat trailer I'm right around $3,000 total. I LOVE this little boat, and I've taken it on some lakes I shouldn't have lol.
Great video, and I 100% agree with buying a used boat for your first boat. If you are going to spend the money on something new, spend it on a new outboard because 99% of your problems are going to be engine problems, not boat problems.
I did recently buy a new tender for my large boat and was really impressed by Saturn's Inflatable Kaboat. I bought the 14ft model. It's $799, rated at 750lb load capacity and will take up to a 10hp. With just me in the boat I can do 9mph with a Suzuki 2.5hp.
That's some great speed with a 2.5!
Just bought my first boat. Used. 2009 tracker guide v14 aluminum boat with a 9.9 HP Honda outboard for $3,200. It had a couple small extras too, but nothing fancy. Trailer is in good shape too. I don't know if I got a good deal or not lol, but I'm excited regardless
That sounds like a decent deal! I've been looking around for a 14 ft aluminum boat myself. Thanks for watching.
You don't get much for $3000.00. You started out by saying to buy a used boat and I agree. You will get a lot more for your money and most likely get a trailer included.
I bought my AlumaCraft 1236 for $549. My trailer was $649. And I bought a Suzuki 6hp FOUR stroke for $1600. All brand new.
Very cool!! On the water for under $3,000 - for a complete new rig - you did well!
I have a GheeNoe made in Titusville Fla, best boat I've ever owned and only draws like 4in ! It's a cross between a canoe, a John boat, and a runabout and is very inexpensive while being rated for 5hp! It's a little more expensive at 1500 but a lot more versatile and can be found used! I bought mine 30 yrs ago and it's still great and I only gave 400 for it new that's a cost of about 13 dollars a year! I run a 35lb trolling motor on it !
Very nice!! Compared to some other $1,500 boats it's probably a good option!
Saturn Boats (among others) offers a number of different inflatable boats and "kayak boats" (narrower lines). Big advantage to lightweight inflatables is that you can haul it in a small SUV or pickup...no trailer needed. As far as engines go, a cheap Hangkai is ok to start...lots of YT vids on tips, tricks and techniques for maintenance. If you live in a colder area, they are easier to store and take up less space than a "rigid" boat and trailer in the garage or shed. They're not for everyone but it is a budget gateway boat. I saw a video of a gentleman launching directly off a relatively calm beach in the FL Gulf. He was an experienced boater and his rig was a Kayak Boat with a 10 or 15 horse....but it does demonstrate their flexibility.
Thank you for sharing this video Wayne. It is very well planned and presented.
4:45 its just a rebranded tahotsu a good decent outboard, light , ive had mine goin 14knots on my 15 boat
The hangkei is also a rebranded tahotsu
I just wanted to thank you for your comeback on the comment and that's the luckiest little 9.8 horsepower Mercury I ever had when I took it to the flea market this morning was talking to gentleman about how I went through and got it all running even started it with me holding and it fired up it enough gas left in it and he said hey you know what I got a boat in the yard I want you to fix the motor on it but you have to promise to take it with you he gave me a 1987 runner with the power power on it and he said it stopped running or he ran it in an hour later he couldn't get it running I think I can work with that so good luck to you guys thank you thank you
My first boat was a 12ft john with 6 hp johnson and it served me well!.
That’s a classic combo! I had an old 6 hp Evinrude that I wish I had kept.
enjoyable delivery and content, Wayne. Thanks!
Much appreciated!
I just bought a used boat, trailer, and engine for 800. Put about 300 into the trailer bc it was beat to hell and looks like new. The boat was recently restored but is very bare bones. So far only in around $1600 in total and its great.
That's a pretty good deal these days! Thanks for sharing
Yeah I'm 60 years old I can't do new either so I just bought a Johnson and rebuilt it 9.8 at a yard sale and rebuilt the whole thing and it runs great most of those motors have very little run time on them they either got damaged or clogged carburetor and then sat in the garage forever
I can spend a little more on the boat only paid five bucks for the motor
$5 engine = huge win!!! congrats
Since I boat alone as none of my friends are into boating with the exception of one who has a sailboat, a Seabright 230 7 foot with a Suzuki 2.5 is more than adequate for just me. It was just $1300 brand new altogether and will achieve 10mph which is already overkill as even the biggest lake in my area are less than a mile across
Thanks for posting this information.
Thanks Wayne your amazing and informative. Appreciate you big dog!
thanks for your help i have learn so much my friend
There's a lot of ways to look at buying a boat, and campers, etc...
Most things like this, I buy used and shop for ever before getting what I'm after. Then just pay cash for it.
Making payments on a complete everything setup is another way to do it with a warranty for everything, and a dealership that helps people that may not know about how to use everything, laws, recreational area rules, etc...
If the Coleman outboard motor is actually made by Tohatsu that means it’s a Japanese built motor and Tohatsu is the oldest Japanese outboard engine manufacturer
I know that Tohatsu makes the smaller Mercury outboards - I just recently got one of those.
Coleman outboards are made by Parsun, Parsun is one of the biggest manufacturers in China to make outboard motors. I have a 2.6 hp 4 stroke Parsun from 2014 and it runs strong! No need to buy a Yamaha or Tohatsu.
Out here in crazy CA. it costs $20.00 and up just to launch a small boat and the marinas are packed.
Yeah, sadly many things associated with boating can be costly.
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Fun video love the progressive format. Looking forward to the winning setup! Big fan of the channel - Allan So Cal
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I bought a 1986 18’ Alumacraft with a running 40 Hp Johnson for $1,100 restored it. I spent over $4,000 on it. And did all the work myself. Restored the EZ- Loader trailer too.
That’s very cool!
i got a 2 man bass boat the plastic model similar to the one you showed. i got it with seats and a 55lb minn kota trolling motor and i take me and a buddy my huge tackle box a bucket for fish and the poles and she does the job i wanna make a livewell off the side of it with a 55qt cooler. other than that i have solar powered light on front and battery operated lanterns for night fishing. and i only usually go on rivers but been looking at this 17ft jon boat with a 5hp engine and trailer for 1500 been for sale 2 years thinking about offering 1k and get her!
I like the idea of solar lights - I might play with those sometime. Moving up to a 17 ft with a 5 hp - you'll feel like the king of the world - if you can land it for 1k - that's a nice win!!!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy thanks! I bought a 2ft solar light at walmart I think I paid 15 it lasts a while and bright
I picked up a brand new Coleman 15hp that was 2yrs old but never used paid a 1,000$ doesn’t have all the bells and whistles but works great
That's a good find!
New is nice, but I picked up a 14 foot v bottom with trailer, 15 h.p. evinrude, oars, life jacket and depth finder for $ 675. It doesn,t leak and starts on the first pull. Hard deal to beat.
That's a great score!!! I'm jealous
Thanks Wayne, this really helps.
I bought a tohatsu 9.8 with three run hours on it. I spent a grand, but it's reliable and quiet.
That's awesome - nice score!!
Pelican Bass Raider 10E + Suzuki 2.5 hp = $1500 for skinny water fishing , can't be beat .
Nice!
I bought a 12 foot sun dolphin Jon boat for $550 with a trailer from academy for $800. Picked up a 6hp mercury from west marine for $1700. All brand new for 3K it’s an alright little boat for 2 people goes about 13-14mph
Very nice! I like that speed from a 6 hp too!
Love my new Water Tender 9.4. 106 pounds.
Water Tender was $550
Nice!
Depends on what you do. I don't care to have anyone along when I fish. It's a solitary experience. The Twin Troller is a little pricey. But it is completely awesome. The 2.5 hp engine is enough to get me around small areas of the lake. And the two trolling motors underneath make maneuverability a breeze!
I understand the solitary experience! Those twin trollers seem neat for small ponds and lakes
BRiS boat and a motor both on Amazon. I got a 6HP. BRIs works great in Open ocean and lakes. Hankai is awesome!
Yeah not many people seem to use, trust or know how to source parts for Hangkai in the US - but maybe that will change.
I got given a 12 foot porta bote and just ordered an Amazon special 3.6 2 stroke should do better then my 55lb thrust trolling motor set up I had for my canoe
Ah yes - Porta Bote - I only learned about them this summer! Pretty cool boats. That Amazon motor might be be pretty loud but it will be faster than an electric motor. I recently compared the pro's and con's of a small gas motor to an electric trolling motor - ua-cam.com/video/nnHdCgLXURI/v-deo.html
My Stumpknocker with a 6hp Merc and custom Aluminum trailer just went up in value ! It's Fiberglass, was built locally in 1971, still more boat than the 1436 !
stumpknocker - lol! Some of those old fiberglass ones are really solid and others were a bit flimsy.
Hangkai and yamaha/tohatsu parts are for the most part ALL interchangeable
Great video!!
Thanks!
I have the 12 ft tracker. I liked the 12ft better. If you look. The 14ft has flotation blocks built into the transom compartment. The 12ft doesn't. My gas tank fits in there. It would not on the 14ft. The coleman motor was my first choice too. After one season it just wasn't enough power. I got a SEAPRO 10hp and put 5hp stickers on it. Now it fishes and hauls a load of gear and 2 people.. I can run 20mph with the top up.
10 Hp with 5 Hp stickers - thats clever!
Hey I just got a 16ft deep and wide John boat, this thing is heavy and big. I’m pretty sure I’ll need a 50hp-75hp motor. I was looking at buying a used and possibly broken motor because of how expensive they are.
Just make sure you can get a fixable broken motor!
that pelican boat i've heard that the split seam can leak.
Sundolphin american 12 jon boat holds over 500lbs,rated for 6hp weights 110 lbs and only $650
Coleman 2.6hp around $600
All fits in a truck bed,can be loaded,unloaded and launched anywhere by 1 man.
Not sure why it was overlooked but its a capable 8mph 2 person rig for under $1300.
Maybe just my opinion but thats the best budget 2 man ,new rig to get you out there.if i had 3k to spend just to get out there,theres plenty used 16-18ft welded aluminium boats with 40-70 2 strokes with trailers for that price.
I did not that Sun Dolphin available anywhere and couldn't find a price for it - (hopefully that will all change soon) but it looks like a great little boat!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy its a typical hdpe flexy plastic boat,but for the price and launch anywhere boat....hard to beat.
Your video was good,jyst wondering why you let that option out.
Thanx and keep up the good work
Pretty good advice, personally I would take a step up on the motor and get the 5 hp Mercury outboard.
That’s good to know!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Please disregard what I posted, it was based on an older model I had seen which is completely different these days, they are water cooled now. Coleman has these made in China, much like everybody else's small outboards.
@@G56AG Your Merc is probably a Tohatsu and are pretty dependable engines.
Excursion 5. Love this raft.
Awesome!
Got a beat up 14 ft sea king with a 4hp tohatsu at the right time for 700$ I was stoked
That'll get you out there!
Amazing content sir. Thank you so much
So nice of you. Thank you!
Great job...
It's RHIB (rigid hull inflatable boat) not important, but I thought you might like to know.
I did not know that!
bought a Lowe 1040 and 2.5 mercury brand new this year , $2600 CAD + tax
Very nice - well done! I recently found a 2004 Mercury 2.5 2 stroke which I am liking very much.
I like the "Twin Troller X10"..I'd actually like to have both of them, lol..
That's a tiny boat for shallow water!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy You ain't kiddin, lol..I have the Ascend 128T right now, but I'm looking at the Ascend 133x or the Jonny Boats Bass 100.
Have you looked at the Jonny Boats Bass 100? It's an awesome little Kayak. It reminds me of the Pelican Power 100, but it's $100 cheaper and it's NOT a 2 piece Yak. I'm gonna buy 1 of those this week, but I can't quite decide which to buy. I actually can't find the Ascend 133x..
I would suggest Water Moccasin 14480 package $3900
Unfortunately you can’t get a new Tracker Topper, they stopped manufacturing jon boats in 2020, and so far 2021. I’ve been calling everywhere and all the dealerships told me the same thing. They might start back production again but no timetable yet.
Hopefully manufacturers will get things rolling soon. Everything from new kayaks to new big outboards have been VERY hard to get lately.
I got an 1442 Jon boat and a old boat motor that I engine swapped for a lawnmower
I've heard that the 1442s are hard to find and they haven't been making them lately.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy oh yeah it’s like a 60’s model the company that made it went out of business years ago Been in my family all it’s life but it’s floats just like a new one
If you buy a cheap enough motor - buy a second for parts.
You can then determine the weak points of failure on the motor and have better components fabricated to avoid issue in the future
Not many people have the access or willingness to seek out fabricators - but it's a neat approach.
Bass Pro shops no longer sells the topper line of John boats! Do you have to go to the grizzly which is extremely expensive!
I hope by next year places have inventory again - it's been challenging.
What you think about that coleman 2.6 i been thinking about buying one…
They're made by a Chinese company called Parsun. Apparently many parts are identical to some older Yamaha parts as the Parsun/Coleman is a copy of that.
In Maryland any boat under 7.5 hp is free to register
Great video 👍
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Coleman outboards are cheap china motors just like hankai. The 50hp mercurys and under are tohatsu. The 20hp and under evinrudes are tohatsu aswell.
Yeah sadly, there's not many manufacturers making small outboards anymore.
Parsun makes them it's a well regarded brand for a Chinese motor.
Parsun and Hangkai are good engines! No need to buy more expensive engines like a Yamaha or Tohatsu
The inflatable boats you presented are not Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB), but Soft Inflatable Boat (SIB). To be classified as Rigid, you need a rigid hull, mostly fiber glass. The SIB are rubber but with inflatable floor or aluminium removable floor.
Ahh - I always assumed if it came with something rigid for the floor it was a RIB.
@@WayneTheBoatGuyI have made the same mistake until I accidentally fell on the correct information.
I always like your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm curious if you have any recommendations(or if anyone else does too) for a boat that I can take in the bay on the shallows, the eastern shore and up the rivers of the Triadelphia. I'm looking at used for two reasons. First and foremost the price. Second, I'm pretty handy so I could do a lot of any work myself on the boat if needed.
I have found that being out on the bay in a 19 foot boat isn't bad on a calmer day, but I have turned back around a few times in a 19 ft boat. If you're going in the shallows, some of those Whalers might work ok. Many of us have two "boats" so we can cover more territory. This summer we hope to bring our kayaks on our big boat so we can anchor close to a shallow area and kayak in.
Cheaper is not always better!!
i own a west marine ru 250, the floorboards are complete garbage, I plan on replacing the floorboards in the spring.
That's not surprising considering the cost - hopefully you've found much better material
I’m in Crownsville. Selling my 21’ Bayliner. I may need something like that so I don’t get withdrawal.
Good luck with the sale! These and kayaks help get us out on the water more often!
Hey Wayne, Although I've been boating for many years, I've enjoyed many of your videos. I have an idea for another video for you. Having boated all my life in the west where we seem to always have floating docks, the pier type you seem to have in the east are very foreign to me. How to you tie up to them accounting for the tide, and get on and off?
Yeah fixed piers are much more challenging! We do occasionally have to check and re-tie our boats when the tides are exceptionally high or low!
Some local marinas have been considering upgrading to floating, but the costs are higher.
Thank you for the idea and for watching!!
For $3000 I could have a bass boat with a mercury 150 console driven its insane that people buy boats new to me. So far I have a 14.5 ft tri hull with a trailer and a bow mount motor guide trolling motor for $300. By the time I get a 9.9hp motor and safety gear etc I'll be at under $1000
Yeah you definitely can get much more for your $$ when you buy used - but sometimes people want new!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I mean if i wasn't mechanically inclined id lean more towards new just to not have to be worried about anything breaking for a good long time so I kinda get buying new
thanks
I like your thoughts, but where do you find 3 people, with a total “person weight” of 345 lbs.?
Yeah - those are some small people!
You gotta be nuts to buy a new boat. There are hundreds of perfectly fine old boats online for a fraction of the cost. Spend your money on a good engine, because that's what's gonna break
Some people really like having something shiny and new so that all the wear & tear, skuffs & scrapes are only there because they did it themselves.
Wow, I did not know that any canoe and or kayak; paddle or peddle drive in the state of Maryland is tax and must be registered.
If you put a motor on it.
Wayne, did you go grab another boat? I see the 175 Yamaha here. I hear buying boats may be like getting tattoos? Once you start, it's hard to stop. LOL.
It’s a friends boat - but I hope to be featuring it sometime soon.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Looking forward to it. This whole new "world" of boating is addicting. I wish I would have found it decades ago. Not just being on the boat and enjoying it on the water. But, working on them and learning everything about em. Thanks for your videos and content in this new lifestyle.
Thank you
I hope this helped!
The Coleman is not made by Tohatsu outboards . It made by Parsun machine company. They are a Chinese company.
Where can you buy the topper boat? I can't find it anywhere!
Bass pro or cabela's
This last year demand has way outpaced supply.
Why is it that an inflatable boat is able to hold more weight that a hard boat? I like to have a high weight capacity with a hard boat In the future with better stability. I ha e a Sevolyor 360 but the floor is not stable.
I think it's gotta do with the fact that an inflatable is more buoyant - but it is interesting.
Im usuing a seahawk 4 inflatable. One day ill hit the lotta and get a real boat. The seahawk 4 inflatable boat isent bad though
That’s right! There’s nothing wrong with a simple little boat and there’s nothing wrong with dreaming about getting a bigger one!
I have both and there’s many times I am very happy in my simple little one.
I request cheapest boat with a motor that can handle 1000-1500 lbs. CHALLENGE
That inflatable is not a RIB. It has a slat wood floor.
Ahh - I thought that any inflatable that wasn't just a soft material bottom was a RIB. Thanks!
Do the RIBs have a non-removable or single section solid floor?
If your lucky u can get a free un on kent coast one carefull owner😁
1st requirement: Do what you recommended 1st and buy used! Ha ha ha
But if you get one used, you can get a lot of that, good setups, for your $1500, $2000
mmm, that new boat smell.
New stuff does smell the best!!
The Coleman outboard isn't that easy to find.
A lot of new motors and boats are hard to find these days!
go to auction get at nice motor for cheap and a boat for cheap
Yeah - In some states (like Florida) auctions seem to be a great option!
I would never buy a metal, plastic boat unless I lived near a body of water. For me it is an inflatable one (one i can easily store in the closet or folded in the garage) or none at all. The idea or dragging a heavy piece of gear like that for miles and storing it is a turn off for me.
That is the single factor that is preventing many people getting into boating in the first place. Inflatables are now a decent choice for people like us starting in this hobby, cost less and many will take a gasoline engines (with some mod). Just my thought...
That's a great point because storage is an issue for many people who don't have a larger yard/garden area.
I really like the small engines that have an internal fuel tank because that's even less items you have to take with you to go out on the water!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Plus now we have an option to use a trolling motor with a small LIFEPO battery which is about 1/3 weight of original and some waterproof solar charger would be nice. Not everywhere you can take a gasoline outboard on a lake.
Some people might not like the hassle, noise of an gasoline engine. For me, the smell of burnt gasoline brings some childhood vacation memories from the past ;)
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You need to do a little more research. Tohatsu does not make Coleman nor have they ever had anything to do with any Chinese outboard
Yes if you check the other comments I learned that the Coleman was made by Parsun.
That engine isn't a Tohatsu, it's made in China and rebranded. So your whole argument AGAINST the Hangkai goes the same for the engine you choose eventually.
I have learned since making this video that the Coleman is a Parsun motor made in China and they actually now sell some Parsun motors in the US.
alibaba are great for ribboat lol ....
Polycraft!
This man said a a trolling motor would struggle they only go 5 at most man stop tweaking
A trolling motor can struggle to even move a heavy load on a heavier boat.
if you are comparing the prices, welcome to contact me for aluminum fishing boat with compitive prices. Gospel boat can offer you a high-quality aluminum boat with right prices you want. welcome inquiry
Where is Gospel boat made at and is it jon boat?
Craigslist
It's a good option if buying used.
You get what you pay for.......
You spent a lot of time talking about a boat that’s been discontinued
It wasn’t when I made the video
Contenders lol
What a waste of time. First contender doesn't meet your specs. So why put in on the list?
I included it because the first contender was the cheapest new “boat” but for me personally it wouldn’t work.