Yeah. High honour Arthur is more emotional, scared and outwardly caring about the people around him. Low honour Arthur is more gruff, angry and callous even though he devotes himself to getting John's family out of the life. One's a man, the other's an animal.
Yeah and Swanson almost sounds like he's telling him what he wants to hear so he doesn't get murdered, he sounds like the whole "Yeah you're a strong warrior, go on and do it!" is like "Uhhh yeah you're really amazing and strong, please leave me alone!" whereas High Honor is more like "You're a good man, Arthur, but the world can be a harsh place. You did your best with what you were given because you are honorable... that honor will see you through to a good place.". WILDLY different.
jipto if you do the stranger mission in Saint Denis something about a monk but if you complete the whole 2 or 3 missions then you will se he, it’s more emotional because you come out to her about the sickness
Yeah I always liked him. He was a broken man full of self hatred and addiction but managed to clean himself up and start again. I have a lot of respect for him in the way he was able to do that, also his positive approach to low honour Arthur and telling him to be true to himself
He has more character development than Sadie, all rockstar did with her was say “hey look at this badass woman she kills people because her husband was murdered and continued killing after getting revenge!!!”
Me too. At first he seems like he's just there for comic relief. Then when he transforms into the wisest and most put toghether member of the gang, it seems Shakespearean. It reminds us the people we laugh at and mock are still human beings.
@@birdlandsportspage8186 Sadie was cool, I just imagine you can’t fully explore all the gang with the amount of members it has. I was kind of disappointed in most of the character development of the gang besides Lenny, John, Micah, Swanson, Arthur, and Dutch. A lot of them feel one note and get one or two missions accompanying them while there’s more horse ride exposition. Lots of tell and not show in this game.
I was the same for any game with good or bad...but I broke the cycle and did bad as my first walk through and got to say is it fun haha love robbing anyone and just killing everything that isn't nice to me
I played it right down the middle until Arthur got sick. I robbed from those that could afford it and I killed anyone who drew on me but I also took pity on the helpless and did what i could for them. The way Arthur behaved in the cutscenes when he knew he was dying I felt weirdly compelled to be a good guy, stopped stealing and fighting everyone that looked at me sideways and tried to clean up my act. I felt like it was a testament to the writing that made me want to change Arthur.
@@illlillx663 there is a side mission in Saint Denise in free market near the fence it followed by two or three simple missions if you finish them and you have high honor you will meet her at the same train station.
@@meloo holy shit that's cool got to play it twice then lol still on first walk through...but with bad honor...lol kept killing fucks even robbed the train and killed all inside
I despise this line. Reverend is getting a second chance to live a new life while Arthur is left back to pick up the pieces and save whomever needs saving. Who is the real fool? I can very easily imagine a corrupt politician responding the same thing when you confront him about his lies. "Yeah you are right but you continue being true to yourself and leave the lies and hypocrisy to fools like me" whilst sipping champagne.
Jordan Dennis No, they weren’t. They could have left if they wanted to, said they didn’t want to work that long. Truth is a lot of them wanted to, they are very passionate about what they do. They weren’t forced, Rockstar wanted them to do it, and they did on their own behalf. All teams that worked on this game (every rockstar studio) are dedicated people and want to push out the best product they can make, they did that here and their pay check for all those hours definitely payed off.
I thought he would give Morgan a lecture if you have low honor but I appreciate that he respects you regardless of how you play and he's right too. Live by the sword and die by the sword.
because he understands that while you did bad things,you did them for the people you cared about to try to make there lives better.good intentions,just a bad method.
The high honour speech is pretty weak, but the low honour is perfect ; I love how Swanson doesn't start to antagonize you or reproach you your evil deeds, but instead respects Arthur.
If you listen real closely, real closely... After arthur says "you're getting mighty sentimental".... you can hear Swanson fighting back just breaking down and sobbing when he enters the train. He just slowly exhales quivering breath...
He thinks Arthur is still loyal to Dutch and would beat him or kill him for running away. Even the way Arthur walks up to him and says “What are you doing here?” Is almost like a threat but then Arthur realizes that Swanson is doing the sensible thing and allows him to leave
@@LoveYouTooMan There is a monk in Saint Denis. Brother Dorkins. He will introduce you to the Nun. If you continue to help them eventually you will get the scene.
"You're not a good man but you're not all bad" A couple minutes ago "You turned into a good man" Edit: Arthur Morgan is a good man. Best video game character of all time. I've finished the mission "Red Dead Redemption" 10 minutes ago and I already miss him.
Yeah because Arthur killed many people. And theft for living. He's not a hero but he got a heart. (Sorry for my bad english im french) but you know. FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ !
Reinald Fratti to get the nun scene you have to do all the st Denis church quest line, which starts with freeing slaves, then catching a thief and then donating. Then you’ll get the scene
I love Arthur as a character so much. I think he is, by far, the greatest video-game protagonist ever. I've never cared so much for a character and I'm so glad to see that, even on a dishonorable path, he's not afraid to admit who he is, and it makes me wanna play the game again just to see all of the various different choices. On my first playthrough, I was sort of borderline between both sides, doing the honorable thing here, while hogtying and burning innocent folk there, but the scene that made me go full-tilt honorable was one of the optional "?" dialogue scenes at the camp with Mary-Beth where Arthur admits to her that he's "lost control" and it made me feel so bad for doing some of the terrible things in the game. This game is a monumental achievement and it had better win every single award it's nominated for because anything but would be blasphemy.
Jesse Miranda there’s somet about old men who have no place in the world they’re in that makes a perfect protagonist in a game 😂 same for Joel in the last of us
Joss M Sean was a good step for the gang to start falling apart. It made Arthur ser reason why he can’t do what he does any longer especially when he gets sick
I somehow feel good for having the Swanson cutscene here. My Arthur could relate to him a lot. During the begining i played basically like in Gta, killing everyone, but during the last three chapters i started to redeem myself and started doing the right things. Reverand worked out the same because he was a morphine addicted train wreck in the begining, but became a better man in the end.
Best way for arthurs redemption is keeping low honor in chapter 6 but do some high honor gains for choices but still keeping low honor then you get the most realistic ending than the high honor ones. Plus arthur's redemption isn't a regular redemption arc kinda like john marstons redemption was in rdr1 because he didn't seek it but he was a better man than arthur morgan.
While I think Arthur's conversation with Mother Superior Calderon is one the most important, if not one of the more emotional, in the game I do wish we could have a goodbye at least with high honor with some of the others that fled. I was sad he never said goodbye to Mary Beth who seemed like a confidant
There are some optional dialogue scenes you can have with her in camp where Arthur tells her that he's dying, and they both talk about his life and what he's done. He has a few with Tilly too. Any time you see a ? somewhere in the camp minimap, it means one of them can sit and talk to Arthur at that location
@@irecordwithaphone1856 oh yeah, I've seen those I was quite surprised the first time. Mary bet was truly a good confidant even if she didn't realize the gravity of it all. I even saw you can chat with Karen too. It was only recently I learned you can dance with Mary Beth
If you listen closely, Swanson cries and you can hear it as he’s boarding the train on the good honor version. All the versions at the train station are great, but the one with the Nun is clearly the best.
I am glad someone else noticed this too because it really hits me to hear that cry at the end because this was Swanson's goodbye to Arthur. I honestly think the high honor Swanson ending has a lot of emotion to it even though I agree with everyone the Nun scene is even better. Both Swanson scenes are good in their own right imo.
The nun is better closure/character development for Arthur but this gives us closure/character development for the Reverend. It's too bad you can't have both.
I made my Arthur became a bad person throughout the whole game. Until I had that low honor scene with Reverend. When said he I'm a changed man Arthur realizing my Arthur hasn't changed and Arthur said it himself with low honor. A fighter, A killer, A crazy man. So after I gotten that scene I fixed my Arthur honor and I can proudly tell you my Arthur died looking at the sunrise at top of the mountain 🏔️🌄 That's my Arthur redemption
Starting from the bottom and making your way to the top is a bigger redemption than gradually making you way to the top form the start so good on you man
I wish you could see this in camp if you went the nun route, like how you could say bye to Trelawny in camp. It feels weird not getting to say bye to Reverend, he just disappears like Uncle, Mary-Beth, Karen, etc. I really like the low honor scene. I wish it was still available instead while still talking to the nun.
I met the Nun. It's fun that there are so many little different versions of events and none feel out of place. Though I like the closure of a long-time friend with Reverend Swanson, when Arthur speaks to Sister, the more heart to heart, and says he's afraid... that hit my feels almost as much as... well, you know.
Even a low honor Arthur will still shake Reverend’s hand. Reverend may actually be the only character who’d know what Arthur lived for and what will die for. His path wasn’t changing, and they both knew that. They had an understanding.
@I Control My Fate theres like 4 story missions you can do towards the end that give you a high honor boost if you choose the good path,plus you could go around doing good deeds like greeting people, fishing, if theres so side missions that give you a moral choice do them
no am sorry his not, but when the strange man tells john you forgot people far more important then me, in RDR1 it reminded me of his good friend arthur, it all made sense and nd i nearly cried
When I first saw this scene. I felt the cold spring air around them. A cool, drafty yet faint wind had picked up from the northwest. Light on the horizon, something that was just enough to keep the both of them warm. In a way that spring can make you feel warm and cold in such a unique way. As the frogs from the pond nearby croaked, and the loons from O’creagh’s run sung out way off in the distance. But none of that mattered. For Arthur had begun to feel a wide mix of emotions. Anger engulfed him when he first saw Reverend waiting to leave the station. But it all made sense, people needed to leave. Dutch had changed and so had Reverend, but in the ways they changed mattered most. Reverend had good reasons for leaving, he was taking the better path after all and Arthur knew this. The world was changing around Arthur. People were changing, people were leaving. What was left of the gang was held together on promises and hope. Something that had held the gang together for its entirety, yet now those promises seemed so much more empty. And now people were leaving because of that. Reverend was far from my favorite character. But as dust kicked up from the departing train, and as Arthur looked out until there was no train left to see. That hit hard.
The difference when the reverand sounds like hes about to cry in the high honor cause it the last time he will see arthur And the bad when was scared to meet arthur but then looks alright cause he knows his friend is gonna do what he thinks is right
reverend swanson is my favorite character in rdr2 apart from arthur and john, he actually sees dutch for who he truly before every one else and is the first one to do smth abt it , he goes from a drunken coward into the leader of a church.
This scene with the Reverend is very underrated. Having Reverend be helped at the train station in chapter 2 at his lowest moment, to then have Reverend helping Arthur at a train station in chapter 6 at one of his lower moments is truly great writing and shows the development of Reverend as a character. Wish we could have both this scene and Sister’s somehow, because Reverend’s character arc feels lessened without it
Yeah the nun was such an amazing cutscene, so much more wholesome in showing Arthur’s transition from outlaw to good and how there is always time to change
🤠2:28 - The low honor version of the Reverend Swanson confrontation is the best of them all. It's less sanctimonious and more relevant to the main plot with the gang members. The player can still get the scene while having done "Of Men and Angels," (which is more than sufficient for Arthur's final exchange with Sister Calderón) as long as current honor is low before starting "The Fine Art of Conversation." It's easy enough to gain back high honor afterward if the final Strauss missions are still available.
They have high honor and low honor dialogue for Arthur...AND they have all separate dialogue if you play the same missions with “Jim Milton”. Crazy the amount of dialogue they have
I've never really cared about good or bad karma in games but with Arthur it was all just so different I could never see him as a bad person, it's the first game in which I couldn't make the main characters do bad things. He just felt so real to me like someone who made terrible mistakes but deep inside he was just confused. I really liked Arthur and I wish I could've played a lot more with him.
Arthur is probably my favorite video game protagonist ever. He's honest with himself, and depending on how much honor you choose to have, he changes his morality due to his sudden coming with death.
I got very low honor by killing all the bounty hunters that were after me and sometimes killed their horses by mistake, but I turned high honor again after greeting all the habitants of San Denise
I had it worse at the final cutscene. I had minimum honor and went back for the money. Ended up getting stabbed twice by Micah with flames surrounding me
Confused to why when you have high honor Reverend says, "You're not a good man Arthur but you're not all bad." Then before Swanson gets on the train he says "You lived your life like a man Arthur, and you turned into a good one." Contradictory, no?
Arthur wasn't bad he was under dutch's control following commands, plus when you get the play as him its all about your decisions that make him good or bad.
+TheCheeroes Cheese He did choose loyalty to Dutch over love with Mary. That costed him very high. Her father hated him because he was an outlaw. Even when he was drunk, he's right. He's a fool, but right about Arthur. According to Mary and Arthur conversation, he was an errand boy for her. Mostly common with some womans in reality.
I honestly wish they had made the High Honor scene was...a bit more sentimental? I feel like the scene with the Nun is more touching than this, but she was such an inconsequential character to the storyline. I personally feel it would've had more impact if Arthur were to be honest about the tuberculosis with Swanson, as well as maybe having some kinder words for Arthur. The dialogue is somewhat odd, with him starting off saying "you're not a good man, but you're not all bad" and then right before getting on the train he reiterates and backtracks saying "you're a good man Arthur, maybe if more were like you things would've turned out different".
Not really, I mean in my opinion it overall feels better to see Arthur change and become a sort of caring, father-like, badass, because he starts to stand up to Dutch and takes care of those he knows he can save it just ends better overall with good honor.
@@killachriz96 yeah I'm not gonna lie the honor system is pretty broken, you can give a man $100 and save his whole family and it would give you like a couple of ticks of good honor and then you defend yourself from someone you accidentally knocked over and it brings you down so low.
@@nose2814 low honor fits Arthur better as an outlaw like he told sean "i love this gang i would kill for it I would happily die for it" he's an outlaw they basically all believe in that saying "you live by the gun you die by the gun" and arthur understood that concept that there was no going back
@@nose2814 I helped woman in valentime by feeding the body to bigs, my honor got lower, then I went to sheriff and told him about her and my honor went even lower... Like, wtf? I help - bad honor, I do the right thing - bad honor...
Am I the only one who likes these cutscenes more than the nun? The nun is cool and very sweet and comforting. But reverend is very brutally honest and at the same time inspiring.
For people that played through with high honor: I think you get this cutscene if you haven't done the monk & nun stranger missions in St. Denis. If you have done them I think you get the nun cutscene. (I played all the stranger missions first and got the nun cutscene myself)
I used to think Swanson was a fool in my first playthrough. But in retrospect, I realized he was a gentle caring soul that had to overcome a horrible addiction. Unlike many gang members he actually took control back in his life. What a legend
I appreciate this conversation more than the nun one, because it made Reverend Swanson my favorite character. The fact that he goes from being the comic relief goofball to the wisest member of the gang is almost Shakespearean.
-You're a man, and i'm a man Im a man, a bad man. _You're not a good man, but a bad man. -My path as a man is at a end. _Be a man, a good man, even if you're a bad man. -Be well reverend. _You're a bad man, but also a good man. -Later, Man!
You know, something the reverend said resonates with me: Arthur lived his way, he will die his way and he will face destiny and judgement his way and he shouldn't compromise. Something to be said about not bending or breaking the way the world wants. Standing by what you believe, even in the midst of collapse.
I prefer this over the one with Sister Calderon. I'm not denying "I'm afraid..." is a fuckin powerful line, but this hits a lot harder because Swanson personally knew Arthur.
Sad to see, that only a few people like seeing Arthur shaved with no beard. I don't like seeing him like a fucking hipster extra clean shaven for the win!
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Notice how Arthur actually even sounds differently depending on your honor. The detail in this game is crazy
Yeah. High honour Arthur is more emotional, scared and outwardly caring about the people around him. Low honour Arthur is more gruff, angry and callous even though he devotes himself to getting John's family out of the life. One's a man, the other's an animal.
It’s not just Arthur it’s the other characters as well you can tell Swanson is waaay more nervous around him when he’s low honour
Looks at his body language asking about the women and children
Yeah and Swanson almost sounds like he's telling him what he wants to hear so he doesn't get murdered, he sounds like the whole "Yeah you're a strong warrior, go on and do it!" is like "Uhhh yeah you're really amazing and strong, please leave me alone!" whereas High Honor is more like "You're a good man, Arthur, but the world can be a harsh place. You did your best with what you were given because you are honorable... that honor will see you through to a good place.". WILDLY different.
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Oh, so that’s what happened to him, I got the nun so I had no idea
The nun scene made me cry ♡
The best
Neo2266 I’m so confused what nun scene
@@jipto11 same. I didn't get the bun scene either
jipto if you do the stranger mission in Saint Denis something about a monk but if you complete the whole 2 or 3 missions then you will se he, it’s more emotional because you come out to her about the sickness
@@ecvpcg you and me both man
Reverend Swanson is actually my favourite character, seeing him go from being a drunk loser to cleaning up his act brought a smile to my face.
Yeah I always liked him. He was a broken man full of self hatred and addiction but managed to clean himself up and start again. I have a lot of respect for him in the way he was able to do that, also his positive approach to low honour Arthur and telling him to be true to himself
He has more character development than Sadie, all rockstar did with her was say “hey look at this badass woman she kills people because her husband was murdered and continued killing after getting revenge!!!”
Me too. At first he seems like he's just there for comic relief. Then when he transforms into the wisest and most put toghether member of the gang, it seems Shakespearean. It reminds us the people we laugh at and mock are still human beings.
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@@birdlandsportspage8186 Sadie was cool, I just imagine you can’t fully explore all the gang with the amount of members it has. I was kind of disappointed in most of the character development of the gang besides Lenny, John, Micah, Swanson, Arthur, and Dutch. A lot of them feel one note and get one or two missions accompanying them while there’s more horse ride exposition. Lots of tell and not show in this game.
It bothers me to play "bad" in any game, I always have high honor
I was the same for any game with good or bad...but I broke the cycle and did bad as my first walk through and got to say is it fun haha love robbing anyone and just killing everything that isn't nice to me
Well not gonna Iie I love being the bad guy only in fallout ( expect FO4 bullshit )
I played it right down the middle until Arthur got sick. I robbed from those that could afford it and I killed anyone who drew on me but I also took pity on the helpless and did what i could for them. The way Arthur behaved in the cutscenes when he knew he was dying I felt weirdly compelled to be a good guy, stopped stealing and fighting everyone that looked at me sideways and tried to clean up my act. I felt like it was a testament to the writing that made me want to change Arthur.
I played pretty bad from the start to end... I just enjoy torturing and killing people so much :D
@@killachriz96 ya see, I try that. Doesn't matter it disturbs me on a physical level
The cutscene with the Nun is much better, were Arthur admits he’s got TB and is scared of dying, and he kinda starts crying.
How do you get the nun scene
@@illlillx663 there is a side mission in Saint Denise in free market near the fence it followed by two or three simple missions if you finish them and you have high honor you will meet her at the same train station.
Walter White can you only get one or the other?
@@kendall8116 I really don't know I didn't even know that if you don't meet the nun you will meet Reverend Swanson 😂
Yep, he mentioned he was afraid, showed the weak face.
I had high honor. I didn’t even know there was multiple cutscenes for this
Also just realised it today after replaying some missions, there are a lot of those multiple version cutscenes
Me too
@@meloo holy shit that's cool got to play it twice then lol still on first walk through...but with bad honor...lol kept killing fucks even robbed the train and killed all inside
I didn’t know rev. Swanson
Was supposed to be there I got some nun I didn’t remember
I had max honor and I am now at the epilogue I don t recall any scene saying bye to the reverant 😂😂 was it optional or my memory is tricking me ???
The low honor scene is brilliant.
“Be true to yourself, Mr Morgan. Leave the lies and the hypocrisy to fools like me.”
As soon I got that scene I changed my Arthur into a good man
Can tell it’s Dan Houser that wrote the script lol
"Save who you can and let the rest rot!"
I despise this line. Reverend is getting a second chance to live a new life while Arthur is left back to pick up the pieces and save whomever needs saving. Who is the real fool? I can very easily imagine a corrupt politician responding the same thing when you confront him about his lies. "Yeah you are right but you continue being true to yourself and leave the lies and hypocrisy to fools like me" whilst sipping champagne.
@@grivza …
The fact that this game was in development with GTA V at once is incredible. 8 years of work. Incredible.
Carl Johnson rockstar must have sweatshops
Its different studios for different games. I think rdr2 was a team effort between all of the studios.
"We here at Rockstar are pulling 100 hour weeks to bring you RDr2."
@@24_Hour_Majima but the workers were forced against their rights!11!1!!!1
Jordan Dennis No, they weren’t. They could have left if they wanted to, said they didn’t want to work that long. Truth is a lot of them wanted to, they are very passionate about what they do.
They weren’t forced, Rockstar wanted them to do it, and they did on their own behalf.
All teams that worked on this game (every rockstar studio) are dedicated people and want to push out the best product they can make, they did that here and their pay check for all those hours definitely payed off.
I thought he would give Morgan a lecture if you have low honor but I appreciate that he respects you regardless of how you play and he's right too. Live by the sword and die by the sword.
because he understands that while you did bad things,you did them for the people you cared about to try to make there lives better.good intentions,just a bad method.
@@Garrett8489 I mean he lived with them. Had no right to really judhe him
The Nun cutscene is far superior to both of these imo
The Nun cutscene I will upload in a different video, one that shows all scenes where Arthur talks about his past and his life
How do you get the nun scene ?
@@y0cigg same
@@y0cigg Do the stranger side quest in saint denis for a monk that will lead you to the nun quest.
Agreed
The high honour speech is pretty weak, but the low honour is perfect ; I love how Swanson doesn't start to antagonize you or reproach you your evil deeds, but instead respects Arthur.
Probably because even though Arthur is a a bad guy he isn't blinded by his morality. He knows what he is.
Seems to me that the Reverend was saying everything he could to not get shot.
Colin Patterson Lmaoooo
I got this scene but had high honor
I liked the honor scene every sad cut scene talking about his death was perfect he wasn’t no saint
If you listen real closely, real closely... After arthur says "you're getting mighty sentimental".... you can hear Swanson fighting back just breaking down and sobbing when he enters the train. He just slowly exhales quivering breath...
Yeah, my guy Swanson really cared for Arthur. I mean, after all he did for him, it ain't that much of a surprise.
The nun is in rdr1. She is the nun you meet in Mexico during the mission I Know You and you have to decide to give her money or steal from her.
Bro! :O
Didn't even know that.. I wish they'd remaster red dead 1 I never finished it and I don't have a last gen console
@@ianmunoz1668 if you have xbox its reverse compatible
@@laputianprince9936 ps4
@@ianmunoz1668 bummer, sorry bro
With low honor reverend seems way more scared when Arthur says his name
The detail in this game is insane. Even the smallest details shine through.
He thinks Arthur is still loyal to Dutch and would beat him or kill him for running away. Even the way Arthur walks up to him and says “What are you doing here?” Is almost like a threat but then Arthur realizes that Swanson is doing the sensible thing and allows him to leave
Wow very interesting. I didn't even know you could meet the reverend here. I actually met a nun who I had previously done side quests for.
yeah, it is amzin how many options they did implement
Yea I think it's those line of missions when you accept to help captain Monroe
@Bill Anderson im pretty sure its when you save Monroe from getting executed
@@HiramSalinas No its not, its from Brother Dorkins side mission
@@gamemoviedatabase6553 a nun? Really?
"you will face your destiny like a man like a warrior" i love that i love that whole dialogue in the low honor version.
Plus "it's all I am, a fighter, a killer, and a.. crazy man".
The nun version of this is way better, especially when Arthur told her that he was afraid god that almost made me shed a tear.
Jack johnson almost? Man I balled my eyes out when he got diagnosed can’t bring myself to finishing it. too sad for me
@@TheRand0mR3tard I stopped playing in the end. I can't return because I know how it ends.
Colin Patterson there is a whole second sequal
How do you get the nun version over reverend?
@@LoveYouTooMan There is a monk in Saint Denis. Brother Dorkins. He will introduce you to the Nun. If you continue to help them eventually you will get the scene.
I actually loved Swanson.
I'm glad he got off the morphine
Same here
He even became a priest in New York.
Only if you play high honor
"You're not a good man but you're not all bad"
A couple minutes ago
"You turned into a good man"
Edit: Arthur Morgan is a good man. Best video game character of all time. I've finished the mission "Red Dead Redemption" 10 minutes ago and I already miss him.
Carl Johnson But he still goes around killing people, so it kind of makes sense.
All you had to do was follow the damn train cj
Yeah because Arthur killed many people. And theft for living. He's not a hero but he got a heart. (Sorry for my bad english im french) but you know. FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ !
The high honour I think was the black nun. Super positive moment . I did not have the reverent scene
Reinald Fratti to get the nun scene you have to do all the st Denis church quest line, which starts with freeing slaves, then catching a thief and then donating. Then you’ll get the scene
Arthur Morgan is hands down one of my most favorite video game characters ever.
Dam this game is amazing. Who else got pissed off when dutch looked at you and left you in the factory? Then trying to play it off that he didn't know
Dutch is a fool for siding with Micah.
vGodry I wanted to gut that bastard right there but I knew it wasn’t gonna happen cause he’s alive in the rdr1
He got what was coming to him in RDR1.
Crazy how he just walked away in the end. He knew John could kill him and Micah with no trouble so he took Johns side. Slippery bastard.
That was the moment when I was finished with him. He is a rat just like Micah.
I love Arthur as a character so much. I think he is, by far, the greatest video-game protagonist ever. I've never cared so much for a character and I'm so glad to see that, even on a dishonorable path, he's not afraid to admit who he is, and it makes me wanna play the game again just to see all of the various different choices. On my first playthrough, I was sort of borderline between both sides, doing the honorable thing here, while hogtying and burning innocent folk there, but the scene that made me go full-tilt honorable was one of the optional "?" dialogue scenes at the camp with Mary-Beth where Arthur admits to her that he's "lost control" and it made me feel so bad for doing some of the terrible things in the game. This game is a monumental achievement and it had better win every single award it's nominated for because anything but would be blasphemy.
Jonathan Abbott he’s a absolute madlad
Venator YT 😎
RDR2 Lost the Ultimate Game Award to Fortnite
He’s up there with Geralt of Rivia.
Jesse Miranda there’s somet about old men who have no place in the world they’re in that makes a perfect protagonist in a game 😂 same for Joel in the last of us
Spoilers
Man, everything’s falling for the gang after Lenny and Hosea died
No body cares about sean? :'c
Joss M Sean was a good step for the gang to start falling apart. It made Arthur ser reason why he can’t do what he does any longer especially when he gets sick
StarlightgamingX DVA You mean after Sean died
No the gang went downhill after they picked up Micah. Should have left him to rot in that jail cell in Strawberry
darknid159 After Sean died everything went bad. Micah didn’t start being a rat until after Guarma
"You lived your life like a man and you turned into a good man." Something about this line really touches me.
I somehow feel good for having the Swanson cutscene here. My Arthur could relate to him a lot. During the begining i played basically like in Gta, killing everyone, but during the last three chapters i started to redeem myself and started doing the right things. Reverand worked out the same because he was a morphine addicted train wreck in the begining, but became a better man in the end.
Best way for arthurs redemption is keeping low honor in chapter 6 but do some high honor gains for choices but still keeping low honor then you get the most realistic ending than the high honor ones. Plus arthur's redemption isn't a regular redemption arc kinda like john marstons redemption was in rdr1 because he didn't seek it but he was a better man than arthur morgan.
"mY aRtHuR"
While I think Arthur's conversation with Mother Superior Calderon is one the most important, if not one of the more emotional, in the game I do wish we could have a goodbye at least with high honor with some of the others that fled. I was sad he never said goodbye to Mary Beth who seemed like a confidant
There are some optional dialogue scenes you can have with her in camp where Arthur tells her that he's dying, and they both talk about his life and what he's done. He has a few with Tilly too. Any time you see a ? somewhere in the camp minimap, it means one of them can sit and talk to Arthur at that location
@@irecordwithaphone1856 oh yeah, I've seen those I was quite surprised the first time. Mary bet was truly a good confidant even if she didn't realize the gravity of it all. I even saw you can chat with Karen too. It was only recently I learned you can dance with Mary Beth
“You’ve lived your way and you’ll die your way. But in the time that you have left don’t compromise.” Chills.
If you listen closely, Swanson cries and you can hear it as he’s boarding the train on the good honor version.
All the versions at the train station are great, but the one with the Nun is clearly the best.
I am glad someone else noticed this too because it really hits me to hear that cry at the end because this was Swanson's goodbye to Arthur. I honestly think the high honor Swanson ending has a lot of emotion to it even though I agree with everyone the Nun scene is even better. Both Swanson scenes are good in their own right imo.
The nun is better closure/character development for Arthur but this gives us closure/character development for the Reverend. It's too bad you can't have both.
I made my Arthur became a bad person throughout the whole game. Until I had that low honor scene with Reverend. When said he I'm a changed man Arthur realizing my Arthur hasn't changed and Arthur said it himself with low honor. A fighter, A killer, A crazy man. So after I gotten that scene I fixed my Arthur honor and I can proudly tell you my Arthur died looking at the sunrise at top of the mountain 🏔️🌄
That's my Arthur redemption
Starting from the bottom and making your way to the top is a bigger redemption than gradually making you way to the top form the start so good on you man
@@getaloadofthisguy2927 thanks 👍
The story took me from being constantly irritated and fed up with Reverand Swanson to really being fond of the fellow. That's great storytelling.
“It’s easier to be bad, but more rewarding to be good”
- Me.
They say no good deed ever goes unpunished
@Doodle bear fucking 29 seconds ago
You don't quote yourself.
I disagree. It’s way more fun to play as bad Arthur. I regularly murder people for their hats.
@@robertcalifornia9641 specially the mexican hat
I love Arthur. Damn good character
Your Arthur has no swag
Fu Qu my Arthur looked so clean. Nice vest with good collar shirt. I miss him :(
He just use the basical skin of Arthur
Fu Qu when you replay missions that’s how he looks
Willox I know.
Fu Qu that’s the default Arthur, if u replay a mission when u complete the game that’s how he will look no matter how u had him when he was alive
"You lived your life like a man and you turned into a good man". That line alone is worth the high honor.
I wish you could see this in camp if you went the nun route, like how you could say bye to Trelawny in camp. It feels weird not getting to say bye to Reverend, he just disappears like Uncle, Mary-Beth, Karen, etc. I really like the low honor scene. I wish it was still available instead while still talking to the nun.
I met the Nun. It's fun that there are so many little different versions of events and none feel out of place. Though I like the closure of a long-time friend with Reverend Swanson, when Arthur speaks to Sister, the more heart to heart, and says he's afraid... that hit my feels almost as much as... well, you know.
Fight and keep fighting...foreshadowing on 10
Even a low honor Arthur will still shake Reverend’s hand. Reverend may actually be the only character who’d know what Arthur lived for and what will die for. His path wasn’t changing, and they both knew that. They had an understanding.
After this I turned my honor around before the ending and it payed off
Paid off*
Same
@I Control My Fate theres like 4 story missions you can do towards the end that give you a high honor boost if you choose the good path,plus you could go around doing good deeds like greeting people, fishing, if theres so side missions that give you a moral choice do them
@@77lyricalgenius Do Penelopes Braitheaites side mission and at the end, do not accept the gift that she give him, Its a huge honor increase
swanson is the strange man confirmed. he said "I know you"
no am sorry his not, but when the strange man tells john you forgot people far more important then me, in RDR1 it reminded me of his good friend arthur, it all made sense and nd i nearly cried
I thought he was the undertaker fella
When I first saw this scene. I felt the cold spring air around them. A cool, drafty yet faint wind had picked up from the northwest. Light on the horizon, something that was just enough to keep the both of them warm. In a way that spring can make you feel warm and cold in such a unique way. As the frogs from the pond nearby croaked, and the loons from O’creagh’s run sung out way off in the distance. But none of that mattered. For Arthur had begun to feel a wide mix of emotions. Anger engulfed him when he first saw Reverend waiting to leave the station. But it all made sense, people needed to leave. Dutch had changed and so had Reverend, but in the ways they changed mattered most. Reverend had good reasons for leaving, he was taking the better path after all and Arthur knew this. The world was changing around Arthur. People were changing, people were leaving. What was left of the gang was held together on promises and hope. Something that had held the gang together for its entirety, yet now those promises seemed so much more empty. And now people were leaving because of that. Reverend was far from my favorite character. But as dust kicked up from the departing train, and as Arthur looked out until there was no train left to see. That hit hard.
I love that shot of Arthur when Reverend was talking to him and zooms on him as he's talking. What a great story and protagonist.
Man, everything with the low honour gives me chills, this reverend swansons speech, the ride last ride voices Arthur hears.
Arthur wanted to be good, but he always got sucked into dutches ways
The difference when the reverand sounds like hes about to cry in the high honor cause it the last time he will see arthur
And the bad when was scared to meet arthur but then looks alright cause he knows his friend is gonna do what he thinks is right
reverend swanson is my favorite character in rdr2 apart from arthur and john, he actually sees dutch for who he truly before every one else and is the first one to do smth abt it , he goes from a drunken coward into the leader of a church.
This game made me cry
This scene with the Reverend is very underrated. Having Reverend be helped at the train station in chapter 2 at his lowest moment, to then have Reverend helping Arthur at a train station in chapter 6 at one of his lower moments is truly great writing and shows the development of Reverend as a character. Wish we could have both this scene and Sister’s somehow, because Reverend’s character arc feels lessened without it
This is why I liked having low honor to the end for the final sight to be the stag for the very first time
3:22 for Rav’s Flatironlake ft. Itha¢a sample, truly a godly sample
i had the nun appear for me wtf
@@bror1645 oh..now i kinda dont wana do the side mission
The one with the nun is way better
@@ernestoibarra7888 true
Yeah the nun was such an amazing cutscene, so much more wholesome in showing Arthur’s transition from outlaw to good and how there is always time to change
🤠2:28 - The low honor version of the Reverend Swanson confrontation is the best of them all. It's less sanctimonious and more relevant to the main plot with the gang members. The player can still get the scene while having done "Of Men and Angels," (which is more than sufficient for Arthur's final exchange with Sister Calderón) as long as current honor is low before starting "The Fine Art of Conversation." It's easy enough to gain back high honor afterward if the final Strauss missions are still available.
They have high honor and low honor dialogue for Arthur...AND they have all separate dialogue if you play the same missions with “Jim Milton”. Crazy the amount of dialogue they have
I don’t understand why it’s actually so hard to play with high honor
The reverend sounds like Dutch.
A younger version of him
Not at all
When he says long.
What are you smoking
He sounds like the dude from gta v the psychologist of Michael
I sadly didn't get to speak to reverend, I saw the nun instead. She's still a cool character but I've been looking forward to his cutscene.
Both scenes are really good
I was pretty neutral throughout the campaign and I got the “High Honor” cutscene (didn’t even know that mattered honestly)
I've never really cared about good or bad karma in games but with Arthur it was all just so different I could never see him as a bad person, it's the first game in which I couldn't make the main characters do bad things. He just felt so real to me like someone who made terrible mistakes but deep inside he was just confused. I really liked Arthur and I wish I could've played a lot more with him.
Arthur is probably my favorite video game protagonist ever. He's honest with himself, and depending on how much honor you choose to have, he changes his morality due to his sudden coming with death.
A fighter a warrior you will live you’re way and die you’re way
I honestly can't remember having this scene
Because you did the side missions for the nun and got her instead later grimshaw tells you Reverend left in the night
0:56 High honour Arthur understands Reverend. Because Arthur changed too.
Low honour - no. He still a bad man.
Man these are so lackluster, the alternative scene with the nun made me tear up
Why the fuck haven't I met this nun everyone's talking about yet
ChromeADomeStone you have to do a couple of side missions for her and another church guy in saint denis
I've done this game 3 times and only now just seen that this scene exists, I've always had the Nun.
I got very low honor by killing all the bounty hunters that were after me and sometimes killed their horses by mistake, but I turned high honor again after greeting all the habitants of San Denise
I got bad cutscene but I'm glad I lived as a bad outlaw
I had it worse at the final cutscene. I had minimum honor and went back for the money. Ended up getting stabbed twice by Micah with flames surrounding me
@@nerdkiller5684 lol
This might be one of the only instances I like the low honor cutscene more than the high honor one.
The nun was for the normies low honor reverend scene is for the real Gs
"And I know you will face your destiny like a man, like a warrior."
I love the low honor version of this cutscene
Confused to why when you have high honor Reverend says, "You're not a good man Arthur but you're not all bad." Then before Swanson gets on the train he says "You lived your life like a man Arthur, and you turned into a good one." Contradictory, no?
Weird how the low honor one is better. I feel like the high honor one is more tense.
Not really? This scene kinda should be tense I guess, it makes it feel more genuine. It's supposed to be a turning point
Ryan Fink it shouldn’t be tense lol. Arthur should be glad to see anyone get up and leave the downward spiral the gang was in.
" you'll face your destiny like man, like a warrior, because that what you are "
I had absolutely no idea there were even *GOOD/BAD* versions of cut-scenes!
‘I got TB’
This line with the nun had an impact, first person he tells and opens up to since getting sick......😪
That confirms about Arthur being bad person all his life till he was sick and turned to good person.
Arthur wasn't bad he was under dutch's control following commands, plus when you get the play as him its all about your decisions that make him good or bad.
+TheCheeroes Cheese He did choose loyalty to Dutch over love with Mary.
That costed him very high. Her father hated him because he was an outlaw. Even when he was drunk, he's right.
He's a fool, but right about Arthur. According to Mary and Arthur conversation, he was an errand boy for her.
Mostly common with some womans in reality.
I honestly wish they had made the High Honor scene was...a bit more sentimental? I feel like the scene with the Nun is more touching than this, but she was such an inconsequential character to the storyline. I personally feel it would've had more impact if Arthur were to be honest about the tuberculosis with Swanson, as well as maybe having some kinder words for Arthur. The dialogue is somewhat odd, with him starting off saying "you're not a good man, but you're not all bad" and then right before getting on the train he reiterates and backtracks saying "you're a good man Arthur, maybe if more were like you things would've turned out different".
I like the low honor more it fits Arthur better IMO
Not really, I mean in my opinion it overall feels better to see Arthur change and become a sort of caring, father-like, badass, because he starts to stand up to Dutch and takes care of those he knows he can save it just ends better overall with good honor.
@@nose2814 love shooting faces off to much to be good lol
@@killachriz96 yeah I'm not gonna lie the honor system is pretty broken, you can give a man $100 and save his whole family and it would give you like a couple of ticks of good honor and then you defend yourself from someone you accidentally knocked over and it brings you down so low.
@@nose2814 low honor fits Arthur better as an outlaw like he told sean "i love this gang i would kill for it I would happily die for it" he's an outlaw they basically all believe in that saying "you live by the gun you die by the gun" and arthur understood that concept that there was no going back
@@nose2814 I helped woman in valentime by feeding the body to bigs, my honor got lower, then I went to sheriff and told him about her and my honor went even lower... Like, wtf? I help - bad honor, I do the right thing - bad honor...
Am I the only one who likes these cutscenes more than the nun? The nun is cool and very sweet and comforting. But reverend is very brutally honest and at the same time inspiring.
I like how Arthur lets and encourages trelawny to leave but when reverend tries to leave he says “running away?”
While I'm happy to have gotten the nun, it kinda bums me out I didn't get to say a proper goodbye to Swanson in my play through.
High honor: Arthur becomes good and knows it.
Low honor: Arthur becomes good but keeps saying he's a bad man.
way better than the scene with the random nun
I chased that train and killed reverend in it.
I guess i got the lowest honor.
Wait... is that even possible? can you kill the nun if she was in there?
For people that played through with high honor:
I think you get this cutscene if you haven't done the monk & nun stranger missions in St. Denis. If you have done them I think you get the nun cutscene. (I played all the stranger missions first and got the nun cutscene myself)
Like all honor determined things high is better
Never saw this cutscene but the low honor version of this one is much better
99%of the players are low honor
The police is gonna kill you, run away :'c
Yep
Not me
Dewy
Trust me, I’ve seen way more dishonourable players than honourable ones
My honor is in the middle, though I think that's how you get the worst ending :/ by being a half ass cowboy
You lived your life like a man and you turned into a good man but keep fighting like the warrior that you are (ps) ( I wish he said that)
Best advice anyone gave Arthur
I used to think Swanson was a fool in my first playthrough.
But in retrospect, I realized he was a gentle caring soul that had to overcome a horrible addiction.
Unlike many gang members he actually took control back in his life.
What a legend
Wtf I got a nun cutscene instead of these two
I appreciate this conversation more than the nun one, because it made Reverend Swanson my favorite character. The fact that he goes from being the comic relief goofball to the wisest member of the gang is almost Shakespearean.
What if you're at perfect neutral?
thats a good question, I will test it right now
"You're not a good man, Mr. Morgan, but you do have 50% of the points to be one. Greet people, Arthur. Greet and keep on greeting..."
@@Karson6410 Maybe it depend on the last action either losing or gaining honor
As a SMT fan i always goes for the neutral
It tends to default you to low or high depending on recent actions I believe.
-You're a man, and i'm a man
Im a man, a bad man.
_You're not a good man, but a bad man.
-My path as a man is at a end.
_Be a man, a good man, even if you're a bad man.
-Be well reverend.
_You're a bad man, but also a good man.
-Later, Man!
Where I can find this cutscene? I didn't make it😢
I think you must not do the Nun sidemissions, if you do them you get the sister leaving instead
@@meloo i did all the missions before finishing the main campaing but the one of Swanson no
You know, something the reverend said resonates with me: Arthur lived his way, he will die his way and he will face destiny and judgement his way and he shouldn't compromise. Something to be said about not bending or breaking the way the world wants. Standing by what you believe, even in the midst of collapse.
Can you still do this as John Marston?
yes, when you replay a mission arthurs honor gets adjusted to johns honor, so just use the honor cheat as john and then replay the mission as arthur
You can tell Swanson was nervous around low honor Arthur so he just told him what he wanted to hear.
I prefer this over the one with Sister Calderon. I'm not denying "I'm afraid..." is a fuckin powerful line, but this hits a lot harder because Swanson personally knew Arthur.
Sad to see, that only a few people like seeing Arthur shaved with no beard. I don't like seeing him like a fucking hipster extra clean shaven for the win!