I've just bought an old, cheap, secondhand Behringer mixer this weekend to have a go at 'no input mixing'. Been thinking about it for a while but Simon The Magpie's video the other day finally pushed me into finding a mixer, I even accidentally managed to get the exact same mixer that Andreij was using in Simon's video (plus it's coming slightly pre-broken so I don't have to worry too much about any further damage I may or may not cause).
Behringer has come a long, long way. I love my X-Touch. Yes, I know, it doesn't have any audio signal going through it, but it's a hell of a good unit for the money. If it works and it sounds good, who cares what brand it is? Budget gear for the win.
This looks awesome! They should make a 12 channel with an SD card and they can compete with my Zoom Live 8. I love it because I don't have record to a DAW at all and can separate those two work flows by importing clips later, but being able to just flip on the zoom and start recording without a computer
I’m pretty sure I had that exact mixer! They’re perfectly capable for simple mixing jobs USB interface is nice but totally agree on the multitrack recording! Most USB mixers only do stereo but multitrack would just be perfection if you’re doing interface functionality anyway
Multitrack is pretty much the main thing that diferentiates an analog mixer with an audio interface at these lower end models. If you want both live mixing and multitrack recording capability from the same device you really need to step up to digital mixers and the price tag that comes with them.
I have more or less exact same thing. I bought it for seventy quid. It works. I do want a giant old Yamaha desk but space and money are things I don't have.
I used to have the eurorack many years ago from Barringer. I really loved it but the pots became really really scratchy. That mixer looks exactly like the Mackie that I have had for a number of years. Except for the USB. Looks cool!
Subscribed for the no-nonsense and fun review, and for my Love for Behringer gear. Yea I also have an OG 1002B, and that proprietary power cord is the main PITA specially when it dies, so really a welcome upgrade 😊
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I need all the help I can get as I have little knowledge of mixers, you have helped me to understand enough about this to know it will work well for my use case. very informative vid👍
My little Behringer mixer is a bit hissy on quiet signals but is great for my synth zone. Instead of one monster mixer and a squiillion squids worth of cables to wire everything to it, I have a few small mixers dotted around.
That it only works as a stereo recorder over USB is sad. Currently looking for a mixer with multi track recording audio interface and this would have been the best value for money by far.
I used to be mackie only, but today, I'm a Behringer Xenyx 1002b user, close to adding a second. 4 stereo, 2 mono, but I use two stereo channels as effects returns, for zoia and microcosm, currently.
@@StephenMcLeod Love zoia. It's sort of like having a tiny stripped down version of my old Nord Mod G2, in a pedal, only, now with sampling...And never a need for a computer, for patch/perf building.
@@StephenMcLeod These days, all of my work is heavily granular. I process everything I do, using multiple devices that process audio granularly, and I just added the Nunomo Qun mk2, which I got for it's granular synth voice capability, in combination with a sequencer that has a bunch of modifiers that can be used to build very complex, but organic feeling sequences. It samples loops in stereo, with two onboard mic's, or a stereo line in, and has a three track looper, with Ableton style audio looping, but any recorded loop, or imported sample, can also be loaded into the granular synth engine. Some people are calling it a "Tiny Digitakt" but part of that could be aesthetics... 😄
I wish they'd add the compressors onto the smaller mixers. I only need it for voiceover so having to go for the larger version is overkill. How does this compare with the Yamaha MG10xu, if you know?
@@StephenMcLeod That's fair, thanks for replying! I enjoyed listening to you - I used to live in Edinburgh and got a bit homesick. Your accent is lovely.
Hi. Great video. I’m a busker, and I’m wondering if I can use this on the street using a USB power bank to power it. The reason I’m asking is a friend told me that powering it over USB won’t work because it has phantom power capability, and that USB isn’t able to support that amount of current. I don’t use a condenser mic, so if I don’t activate it would that mean it would be sufficient? I have the Behrininger Xenyx USB302 5, and it works that way, but it only has the capacity for either my mic, OR my acoustic guitar, and it doesn’t have any onboard FX. Cheers!
I aldo have an old 1002 that is not working properly anymore and would like to get the 802, but i need reverb for the voice. Not any kind of the 99 effects i had in the 1002 but at least reverb. I dont ubderstand if i can get the reverb in the 802s. Thanx
Another great review from you! I love my lil Behringer mixer, we have the same! And I have to go check out those 'turn a mixer into a synth' videos! That Bubbles pedal sounded friggin gnarly with it lol 🤘🐀
freaking love how you have the mpc 2500 mounted kind of upwards like that, i would like to do that with my mpc 1000 and my Korg EMX-1 just because I don't currently have room for them so i need to wall mount some stands or something. I hate having them piled under my desk and having to hook them up when i want to use them. I'm trying to set up my stuff and leave it set up tho i am watching this because i am looking for a mixer and have been eyeing buying your exact old one because i can find them for under a $100
100%. I never used to make music because everything had to be set up every time. Since I got a dedicated space and left things in such a way to make them easily accessible, I make waaay more now!
@StephenMcLeod silly question for you, as I am new to this stuff: does the “stream to monitor” button I see in the USB section merely switch the monitor between the Streaming input and the main mix, or does it actually mix the Streaming input and the main mix into the monitor? I’m looking for an option where I can monitor all the channels together but keep one channel out of the actual main mix
I have a qx1202usb (so same as your old one I think but with fx and usb) the usb on mine only goes one direction at a time, which is kind of crap, don't mind the reverb. and it doesnt sit flat. But it works fine for years. Yet to find a reason to replace it.
I've been using a behringer xenyx 1002b for several years on my desk. I can't find them for sale anymore or I'd get another for a different room. As it is the price on mixers seems to have jumped quite a bit since the pandemic started.
Can this be selected as an audio out device on a Mac by any chance, or does the audio from the computer still need to be routed back out and into a channel on the mixer?
When i put mic on ch.1 and guitar on ch.2. Does the stereo output brings out them separately on left and right? Or both signal on each output (vocal + guitar on right and vocal + guitar on the left output) ?
Hi , I need to buy an Audio Interface like Scarlet focusrite 2i2, mainly for recoding guitar tracks. Can I buy instead buy this instead. Do these have Pre-amps Thanks in advance.
I have been looking at getting a basic mixer and i had my eye on one (or two) of the cheaper Behringer mixers. However after looking around, i have heard pretty bad reports about the cheaper Behringer mixers inputs failing after a short time and quite a few people saying that they loose at least a couple of channels. So just curious if you have had any issues with yours after using it under fire for so many years?
I'm not sure what the differences are in practice, but looks like the Q802 is more of a traditional mixer, and has a compressor built in for at least some of the channels. The 802s seems more geared towards streaming.
ooo I have one of these, its great for the ££ but I've discovered you can't use inputs 3/4 - 5/6 as four mono inputs if you are using "FX send" (say to a delay pedal ;) as the FX pot doubles as a mix between the signals (in 3/4 - 5/6). End result is you can't adjust the FX amount using the FX pot any more, FX is just on - on these channels. Bit of a w*nky comment.. sorry.. but its worth considering I think... as this reduces the inputs available? Ok, I' m off... btw.. anyone feel free to tell me i'm using it all wrong... Smashing Vid as usual :)
@@StephenMcLeod I grew up on the Big Yin, my father-in-law was from Leith, and my mether-in-lair is from Edinburgh. On a good day I can understand Rab C Nesbitt's drunken rants!
I have one too! It's a fucking indestructible piece of kit. There's so much crap written about Behringer particularly these little Xenyx mixers. Can I be honest with you? The one thing that really depresses me is Synth UA-camrs studio backdrops. A million tiny LED's going fucking nuts or a coloured LED wash. Even worse is both. Yes, we know you're clever but ffs...youre not a timelord....
Pretty kewl, I am gonna be in the market for a nice little mixer soon. That and getting my iPad to speak midi to my Polyend. What a pain in the ass! Ugh...
@@StephenMcLeod From what I have seen there is a midi box you have to get to make it work from a company called imio. Then the camera attachment to keep power going...Ugh, thanks Apple!
I've just bought an old, cheap, secondhand Behringer mixer this weekend to have a go at 'no input mixing'. Been thinking about it for a while but Simon The Magpie's video the other day finally pushed me into finding a mixer, I even accidentally managed to get the exact same mixer that Andreij was using in Simon's video (plus it's coming slightly pre-broken so I don't have to worry too much about any further damage I may or may not cause).
Yeah! Let's go!
Aw nice one! I love the look of that big ol mixer in those videos.
I use the 1202 for everything, so good!!
Hell yah. I'd like to see a 1202S!
They have a 1202sfx and 1204usb both of which have the same 48KHz 16 bit stereo in/out usb interface.
Behringer has come a long, long way. I love my X-Touch. Yes, I know, it doesn't have any audio signal going through it, but it's a hell of a good unit for the money. If it works and it sounds good, who cares what brand it is? Budget gear for the win.
Amen. The X-Touch series look pretty sweet!
Thanks for the help to choose a new behringer.
Glad it was useful!
This looks awesome! They should make a 12 channel with an SD card and they can compete with my Zoom Live 8. I love it because I don't have record to a DAW at all and can separate those two work flows by importing clips later, but being able to just flip on the zoom and start recording without a computer
I'm surprised they don't. I frequently record from my mixer into my Zoom H2n.
I think they maybe do have one like that... the X-Live maybe?
The Zoom 8 is a superb mixer as you can take it anywhere , I have the L12, its too big for what I want but it has the built in effects..
Thanks for the shoutout! ❤
I love your live videos. They are amazing! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@@StephenMcLeod Thanks for the nice words! Happy you appreciate them!
Great video thank you I just ordered one for a podcast but I love the background jams I definitely want to order some of those jams 💻📻🚉🎼🎧🎹🎤
Thanks for watching!
I’m pretty sure I had that exact mixer! They’re perfectly capable for simple mixing jobs
USB interface is nice but totally agree on the multitrack recording! Most USB mixers only do stereo but multitrack would just be perfection if you’re doing interface functionality anyway
Hell yeah. Hard to beat these cheap Behringer mixers for the value!
Multitrack is pretty much the main thing that diferentiates an analog mixer with an audio interface at these lower end models. If you want both live mixing and multitrack recording capability from the same device you really need to step up to digital mixers and the price tag that comes with them.
Dig that tune in the FX demo. I'd play that game all day!
Thank you! That's a song called 'Plastic Jelly' off of my album Lascivious Interest - cowtonguetacorecords.bandcamp.com/album/lascivious-interest
@@StephenMcLeod sold! Thanks!
I liked Old Dirty Mixer's solo stuff but he was definitely better in the Wu Tang Clan.
haha touche
you can use your old mixer for some 'no input' feedback chaos!
I wish I was any good at it!
I have more or less exact same thing. I bought it for seventy quid. It works. I do want a giant old Yamaha desk but space and money are things I don't have.
I would love a big old desk as well, but space is the enemy!!
I used to have the eurorack many years ago from Barringer. I really loved it but the pots became really really scratchy. That mixer looks exactly like the Mackie that I have had for a number of years. Except for the USB. Looks cool!
Get some of that contact cleaner spray stuff! There's one specifically for pots that fixes it right up.
Subscribed for the no-nonsense and fun review, and for my Love for Behringer gear. Yea I also have an OG 1002B, and that proprietary power cord is the main PITA specially when it dies, so really a welcome upgrade 😊
Definitely. Thanks for watching!
"Because my internet connection is so shit!" That's pretty funny. LOL
I have since upgraded!!
So you send the signal thru fx send but where does it return ??
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I need all the help I can get as I have little knowledge of mixers, you have helped me to understand enough about this to know it will work well for my use case. very informative vid👍
I'm glad it was useful!
My little Behringer mixer is a bit hissy on quiet signals but is great for my synth zone. Instead of one monster mixer and a squiillion squids worth of cables to wire everything to it, I have a few small mixers dotted around.
I also subscribe to that philosophy!
That it only works as a stereo recorder over USB is sad. Currently looking for a mixer with multi track recording audio interface and this would have been the best value for money by far.
Yeah, I had hoped it was multi-track as well. Still waiting on that appearance!
I used to be mackie only, but today, I'm a Behringer Xenyx 1002b user, close to adding a second. 4 stereo, 2 mono, but I use two stereo channels as effects returns, for zoia and microcosm, currently.
Smart! How ya liking the Zoia?
@@StephenMcLeod Love zoia. It's sort of like having a tiny stripped down version of my old Nord Mod G2, in a pedal, only, now with sampling...And never a need for a computer, for patch/perf building.
@@StephenMcLeod These days, all of my work is heavily granular. I process everything I do, using multiple devices that process audio granularly, and I just added the Nunomo Qun mk2, which I got for it's granular synth voice capability, in combination with a sequencer that has a bunch of modifiers that can be used to build very complex, but organic feeling sequences. It samples loops in stereo, with two onboard mic's, or a stereo line in, and has a three track looper, with Ableton style audio looping, but any recorded loop, or imported sample, can also be loaded into the granular synth engine. Some people are calling it a "Tiny Digitakt" but part of that could be aesthetics... 😄
@@DetroitMicroSound Nice. I am into the granular but need to get better at it. I don't really have a clue what I am doing.
@@StephenMcLeod Mess with patching Zoia, is my best advice. It'll do a lot with it's 8 grain module.
Great value mixers. A multitrack over usb would be an instant buy
The dream
I wish they'd add the compressors onto the smaller mixers. I only need it for voiceover so having to go for the larger version is overkill. How does this compare with the Yamaha MG10xu, if you know?
I'm afraid I've never tried out the Yamaha MG10xu - it's about three times the price though!
@@StephenMcLeod That's fair, thanks for replying! I enjoyed listening to you - I used to live in Edinburgh and got a bit homesick. Your accent is lovely.
The old 502usb mixer did have a compressor. I didn't use that feature very frequently, but it worked pretty well.
Hi.
Great video.
I’m a busker, and I’m wondering if I can use this on the street using a USB power bank to power it.
The reason I’m asking is a friend told me that powering it over USB won’t work because it has phantom power capability, and that USB isn’t able to support that amount of current. I don’t use a condenser mic, so if I don’t activate it would that mean it would be sufficient?
I have the Behrininger Xenyx USB302 5, and it works that way, but it only has the capacity for either my mic, OR my acoustic guitar, and it doesn’t have any onboard FX.
Cheers!
I aldo have an old 1002 that is not working properly anymore and would like to get the 802, but i need reverb for the voice. Not any kind of the 99 effects i had in the 1002 but at least reverb. I dont ubderstand if i can get the reverb in the 802s. Thanx
Another great review from you! I love my lil Behringer mixer, we have the same! And I have to go check out those 'turn a mixer into a synth' videos! That Bubbles pedal sounded friggin gnarly with it lol 🤘🐀
Thanks man! Definitely get exploring the no input mixer stuff. It's wild, and my example is terrible a.
I can't find any confirmation online. Is this USB interface input OR output, or can it do both simultaneously?
freaking love how you have the mpc 2500 mounted kind of upwards like that, i would like to do that with my mpc 1000 and my Korg EMX-1 just because I don't currently have room for them so i need to wall mount some stands or something. I hate having them piled under my desk and having to hook them up when i want to use them. I'm trying to set up my stuff and leave it set up
tho i am watching this because i am looking for a mixer and have been eyeing buying your exact old one because i can find them for under a $100
100%. I never used to make music because everything had to be set up every time. Since I got a dedicated space and left things in such a way to make them easily accessible, I make waaay more now!
@StephenMcLeod silly question for you, as I am new to this stuff: does the “stream to monitor” button I see in the USB section merely switch the monitor between the Streaming input and the main mix, or does it actually mix the Streaming input and the main mix into the monitor? I’m looking for an option where I can monitor all the channels together but keep one channel out of the actual main mix
Im here to learn what a Behringer Mixer is because my audilll engineer school sends one half way through bs degree. Wish they taught better
I have a qx1202usb (so same as your old one I think but with fx and usb) the usb on mine only goes one direction at a time, which is kind of crap, don't mind the reverb. and it doesnt sit flat. But it works fine for years. Yet to find a reason to replace it.
None of my gear sits flat any more... though to be fair my whole house is sinking so perhaps that's the bigger isue.
I've been using a behringer xenyx 1002b for several years on my desk. I can't find them for sale anymore or I'd get another for a different room. As it is the price on mixers seems to have jumped quite a bit since the pandemic started.
Unfortunately so. I can barely get a pack of butter for less than 6 quid!!
Here for the accent whilst saying behringer
behh-reing-gur
Can this be selected as an audio out device on a Mac by any chance, or does the audio from the computer still need to be routed back out and into a channel on the mixer?
When i put mic on ch.1 and guitar on ch.2. Does the stereo output brings out them separately on left and right? Or both signal on each output (vocal + guitar on right and vocal + guitar on the left output) ?
That depends on how you pan them. If you don't pan channel 1 or 2, then they will come out both sides of the stereo output.
I should be able to play my Arturia MicroFreak, Roland TR6S and Behringer TD-3 thru this right? Thanks
They should be good yup
O just found out about no input mixing amazing what some people can do...i saw the magpies video..i might try it my self
Do it. Can't be worse than my attempts!!
nice man! if you had to use a roland sp, where would you plugg it? to make it has an external effect box ?
My first mixer was the UB1202 that I bought by saving up my milk money in junior high.
As in.. money from delivering milk! I wish we still had that. I am always running out.
Hi , I need to buy an Audio Interface like Scarlet focusrite 2i2, mainly for recoding guitar tracks. Can I buy instead buy this instead. Do these have Pre-amps Thanks in advance.
You should be able to use it for that in theory, yes.
I just bought a little bomge mixer with bluetooth and usb ..iv not really used it for anything yet but will soon..
Bluetooth is interesting... I'm not really on that train yet though. I'd need to think of a good reason to use it.
I have been looking at getting a basic mixer and i had my eye on one (or two) of the cheaper Behringer mixers. However after looking around, i have heard pretty bad reports about the cheaper Behringer mixers inputs failing after a short time and quite a few people saying that they loose at least a couple of channels. So just curious if you have had any issues with yours after using it under fire for so many years?
Honestly had no issues with my old one at all.
Can you please tell me if the fx send knob are pre or post fader?
Can anyone tell which mixer is best 802s or q802 i am little bit confused which one is best
I'm not sure what the differences are in practice, but looks like the Q802 is more of a traditional mixer, and has a compressor built in for at least some of the channels. The 802s seems more geared towards streaming.
hey, after 15 years it's forgivable if you can't remember exactly who might have supplied this or that piece of gear
'supplied' being the key word haha.
how much floor noise does it have? equalizer sounds good
I'm probably not the best person to ask, as I have a high tolerance for noise. There hasn't been anything obvious to me, but ymmv
I have that mixer😋
Great taste.
ooo I have one of these, its great for the ££ but I've discovered you can't use inputs 3/4 - 5/6 as four mono inputs if you are using "FX send" (say to a delay pedal ;) as the FX pot doubles as a mix between the signals (in 3/4 - 5/6). End result is you can't adjust the FX amount using the FX pot any more, FX is just on - on these channels. Bit of a w*nky comment.. sorry.. but its worth considering I think... as this reduces the inputs available? Ok, I' m off... btw.. anyone feel free to tell me i'm using it all wrong... Smashing Vid as usual :)
I’m detecting a bit of an accent
Really?! I've done my best to tone it down for all you dafties already ;)
@@StephenMcLeod Fuck that. Tone it UP!
@@StephenMcLeod I grew up on the Big Yin, my father-in-law was from Leith, and my mether-in-lair is from Edinburgh. On a good day I can understand Rab C Nesbitt's drunken rants!
Mixers not sexy
Play differently model 1 enters the room
Now that's a good looking mixer.
It really is sexy but good lord is it expensive
I have one too! It's a fucking indestructible piece of kit. There's so much crap written about Behringer particularly these little Xenyx mixers. Can I be honest with you? The one thing that really depresses me is Synth UA-camrs studio backdrops. A million tiny LED's going fucking nuts or a coloured LED wash. Even worse is both. Yes, we know you're clever but ffs...youre not a timelord....
You’re right, he should film in his kitchen.
Fuck that noise, I wanna see the cool gear. Time lords FTW.
Aye. These mixers are great utilities. and haha. I could flip the camera around, but then you'd need to look at my cupboard and dirty washing.
seems appropriate, really. And can we really say for certain that he's *not* a timelord?
Pretty kewl, I am gonna be in the market for a nice little mixer soon. That and getting my iPad to speak midi to my Polyend. What a pain in the ass! Ugh...
I had an ipad for similar duties at some point, but I lost it. I've no idea where it's gone. And thus ended my time with tablets ha.
@@StephenMcLeod From what I have seen there is a midi box you have to get to make it work from a company called imio. Then the camera attachment to keep power going...Ugh, thanks Apple!