What time frame do you follow? For example: open the pool, add alkalinity increaser then how long before you wait to add PH inc or decreased or calcium increaser in between etc? 6 hours? 24 hours? Until level is achieved of each chemical component? Also when you first open your pool do you recommend immediately shocking it first or balancing out the neutrality of the water first and then shocking it?
I would suggest checking the cyanuric acid and calcium hardness first because correction of these parameters frequently requires removal of pool water, potentially upsetting all other parameters. I wish the textbooks had a table for this sort of procedure.
You're absolutely right I think. Wonder why Steve mentioned TA-PH-CA order..and he didn't mention CYA at all which is very important. You could add phosphates to this list as well. I would like you start with CYA and CA. Then find a suitable TA level in order to get a balanced LSI. PH and chlorine next.
I appreciate now knowing the correct order, but how much time between chemicals? Would it be enough hours for one complete cycle or just add the next day? I'm thinking in my case around 4-5 hours...enough for a complete cycle.
If your have a salt pool you'll always be battling pH because of the ionization process. Still check alkalinity and especially calcium levels(to make your salt cell lasts longer between cleans) and make sure everything is as balanced as possible.
Baking soda WILL increase the pH. Wait many hours and retest before adding anything else. In a pool I like overnight for alkalinty corrections before retesting the pH
@@Swimmingpoolsteve ok I thought the baking soda would increase both but Sunday I added it and tested it about 6 hours later and it only increased the alkalinity. I started out w a very dark green pool now it’s a teal color
Not necessarily as it depends on the pH of the chlorine you are using. But to your point when alkalinity is balanced it helps resist changes in pH. Further, the pH is a range so you have some room for tolerance of changes here also. This page should help you www.swimmingpoolsteve.com/pages/chemistry.html
I'm a new pool owner and I am extremely confused about the PPM calculation, my pool is a Round 24-ft with a 48" Wall which holds 11,895 gallons of water. When adding any chemicals and they talk about ppm.... How do I know how much to add base on the ppm results from the test
What is the pool is full of algae? We had to lower the water level so a new jet could be installed. We had to wait for several days so the silicone the guy put around the jet could cure (don't ask, it's a long story). Two days after, with high heat and sulk sun, the clean water has turned green and there is algae covering the whole new pool liner we just had our in. So what do I do first; clean up the current water at its level by using chlorine, brushing and washing? Or should we add water to bring the level up to where we can turn on the pump, or just use the submersion pump to get the algae and water removed? I'm really not sure what to do first. If I add water, will I have to remove it again to get rid of all the algae that had built up in the last few days? I'm using city water, so I have to be Minsk if when, and how much water I add.
What time frame do you follow? For example: open the pool, add alkalinity increaser then how long before you wait to add PH inc or decreased or calcium increaser in between etc? 6 hours? 24 hours? Until level is achieved of each chemical component? Also when you first open your pool do you recommend immediately shocking it first or balancing out the neutrality of the water first and then shocking it?
The unsatisfying answer to this is...it depends. Each thing you asked I would evaluate on an individual basis to assess what is needed as a priority. A little chlorine at first, yes, is the pH and alkalinity are not too far out. 6 hours between each adjustment minimum. Overnight is ideal.
What time frame do you follow? For example: open the pool, add alkalinity increaser then how long before you wait to add PH inc or decreased or calcium increaser in between etc? 6 hours? 24 hours? Until level is achieved of each chemical component? Also when you first open your pool do you recommend immediately shocking it first or balancing out the neutrality of the water first and then shocking it?
I would suggest checking the cyanuric acid and calcium hardness first because correction of these parameters frequently requires removal of pool water, potentially upsetting all other parameters. I wish the textbooks had a table for this sort of procedure.
Why do so many people miss this? If CYA is way too high, you have to remove water, and this could throw TA way off.
You're absolutely right I think. Wonder why Steve mentioned TA-PH-CA order..and he didn't mention CYA at all which is very important. You could add phosphates to this list as well. I would like you start with CYA and CA. Then find a suitable TA level in order to get a balanced LSI. PH and chlorine next.
Thank you for breaking this down! How many hours, cycles, or days between each chemical?
Great video, straight to the point and easy to understand.
I appreciate now knowing the correct order, but how much time between chemicals? Would it be enough hours for one complete cycle or just add the next day? I'm thinking in my case around 4-5 hours...enough for a complete cycle.
Straight to the point! Thank you!
What about metal stain remover and boric acid? When do those get put in?
If your have a salt pool you'll always be battling pH because of the ionization process. Still check alkalinity and especially calcium levels(to make your salt cell lasts longer between cleans) and make sure everything is as balanced as possible.
thank you for actually explaining why and the order for each.
Do you add alkaline one day, ph next day and so on, or all in same day?
Thank you Steve
How long after I add the baking soda to increase my alkalinity do I have to wait before I can add ph increaser?
Baking soda WILL increase the pH. Wait many hours and retest before adding anything else. In a pool I like overnight for alkalinty corrections before retesting the pH
@@Swimmingpoolsteve ok I thought the baking soda would increase both but Sunday I added it and tested it about 6 hours later and it only increased the alkalinity. I started out w a very dark green pool now it’s a teal color
as soon as you add chlorine you are going to change ph.. im confused 😩
Not necessarily as it depends on the pH of the chlorine you are using. But to your point when alkalinity is balanced it helps resist changes in pH. Further, the pH is a range so you have some room for tolerance of changes here also. This page should help you www.swimmingpoolsteve.com/pages/chemistry.html
You said 4th is sanitizer level…then you mentioned free chlorine level 2-4 as 5th?
Chlorine is the sanitizer
Thank you. I am obviously a novice and it wasn’t clear but now it is.
I'm a new pool owner and I am extremely confused about the PPM calculation, my pool is a Round 24-ft with a 48" Wall which holds 11,895 gallons of water.
When adding any chemicals and they talk about ppm.... How do I know how much to add base on the ppm results from the test
I just downloaded an app called "Pool Math" it's super helpful tracking and helping me out with all this! Best of luck!
There are tables that come with decent test kits that will have charts based on the levels on how much to add based on gallons of water
I suggest taylor brand
What is the pool is full of algae? We had to lower the water level so a new jet could be installed. We had to wait for several days so the silicone the guy put around the jet could cure (don't ask, it's a long story). Two days after, with high heat and sulk sun, the clean water has turned green and there is algae covering the whole new pool liner we just had our in. So what do I do first; clean up the current water at its level by using chlorine, brushing and washing? Or should we add water to bring the level up to where we can turn on the pump, or just use the submersion pump to get the algae and water removed? I'm really not sure what to do first. If I add water, will I have to remove it again to get rid of all the algae that had built up in the last few days? I'm using city water, so I have to be Minsk if when, and how much water I add.
Too formal!@@
What time frame do you follow? For example: open the pool, add alkalinity increaser then how long before you wait to add PH inc or decreased or calcium increaser in between etc? 6 hours? 24 hours? Until level is achieved of each chemical component? Also when you first open your pool do you recommend immediately shocking it first or balancing out the neutrality of the water first and then shocking it?
The unsatisfying answer to this is...it depends. Each thing you asked I would evaluate on an individual basis to assess what is needed as a priority. A little chlorine at first, yes, is the pH and alkalinity are not too far out. 6 hours between each adjustment minimum. Overnight is ideal.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve One last thing: do you recommend a full 24hrs filter run or not needed?
Variable speed pump running 24/7is what I recommend