What is great about this video is that you will check in 20 years from now(2024) and the steps still will be the same. I am watching it 5 years after he posted it.
After being screwed by 3 different pool companies I decided to clean my pool myself. Thank you for your videos my pool has never looked better. My neighbor asked me who I used to clean my pool because mine looked so nice and his looked like crap. Now I take care of both of our pools. Thanks once again.
I'm delighted to hear that. That's exactly the reason I created and continue to add to this channel. It's also why I created Poolschooler.com you may want to check it out, but honestly if you're doing great with just this channel it may not be worth the extra $99 per year for that membership. But go check out the video on the website and see what ya think.
I watched this a dozen times (and countless of your other videos) trying to get my pool started after I had to do a chlorine wash. Massive amounts of information and clearly delivered in easy, short lessons (like school)! I followed these exact steps to start up my 20k gallon pool (I can’t believe you just dump the cya in the skimmer)! Thank you so much, I feel like I have a much better understanding of what I need to do to take care of my own pool now!
I watch this video each year, for the past couple of years, at the start of summer when opening our pool. It's very helpful as a guide for understanding when and how to add chemicals. Thank you.
Thanks so much for taking the mystery out of this. I drained my pool and couldn’t find anyone explaining how to refill it. Not sure if I need you anymore but I did watch it to the end, like and subscribed to help you out.
I have owned my pool for about 10 years and this video cleared up so many questions I have had and was not able to get answered by "big pool stores". thank you...
You're great! You explain things at a good pace and make it understandable...unlike like going to the pool place and having them speak at you 100 mph in Chinese! Thank you. You are my new go to guy for pool info!!!
I drained and filled my pool by following your very thorough video instructions. Thank you so very much ! I have learned so much about maintaining my pool from your videos.
I'm so glad my channel has been helpful. Stay tuned for an exciting announcement coming at the end of this month. And thanks for your kind comments and for subscribing.
Definitely look this stuff up. My dad has worked in the pool industry my whole life and has said everything this guy does. I love it and the channel it makes me happy to see people save money!
I guess Im asking the wrong place but does someone know of a way to log back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb lost my account password. I love any tricks you can offer me
God ! I don’t know anything about pools and bought a house with a pool watched videos about this subject for hours and it scared the hell oit of me. This is the most straightforward no none sense video Kenny. Thanks so much.
You are so very welcome. Thanks for watching and for your kind comment. Hope you subscribed. I've got a special new program coming out this April and you won't want to miss the announcement.
I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your vids. I find you very easy to listen to and follow. Thank you. I just bought a house in AZ and this is my first pool ever. I know absolutely nothing and your vids are greatly helping.
I struggled with my pool until my aunt introduced me to eclipse 3 and showed me how putting a hair net in my skimmer will help filter smaller particles.Its a learning curve but google and test strips are your friend.I love any advice I can get so thank you pool school!!
Glad you find my channel helpful. Hope you will subscribe to it and share it with others. For more great money saving pool stuff check out my membership website poolschooler.com
I agree with most of what I've seen on these videos. I'm here in Tempe and I'd hire this guy. He let's the pool stores off way too easy though. The local chain store (you know the one) has very few competent sales people. I was convinced that I needed to change the water and Pool School confirmed that. But the guys at the store kept telling me more shock. Three weeks and 36 pounds of shock later (48,000 gallon pool), I never got a reading with any free chlorine. Finally went to Checker Pool (better independent store) and got significantly different chemistry results. This time, I found that I had TDS at 2800 ppm and CYA off the chart. Replaced water and started up the pool (based on what Pool School suggested and NOT what I the chain store "strongly recommended"). Water is perfect now. Thanks.
All the videos I watched from you last year my first yr with pool and read and read and I'm right back! I just can't remember this stuff correctly! As I expected same as last yr refilling my pool my pH high need calcium hardener and alkalinity low.
Check out my membership website poolschooler.com. It's got a lot of stuff including chemical and maintenance check lists for your particular type of pool/filter system.
The biggest thing you have taught me so far is phosphate and how it effects the water. I never knew this was food that algae needed to survive and so far phosphate remover has made a major difference!
Am so glad I found someone that speaks my language w pool tools... have had a pool for 3 yrs now & this year I actually just drained a little & covered. Mid December we had a mishap with my cover ripping, brand new cover. But.. now I do have a little more of a mess. So am hunting a cheap but good vac to begin to open. Thank u for this info
Thanks for the info. I purchased a home with a pool and let it sit for over a year before using it. We're filling up with fresh water, so hope this works!
You got this. Take your time adding the CYA 1 pound at a time test after an hour or two and repeat if you need to. that way you’ll prevent overdosing it.
@@PoolSchooler can do this all at the same time or do i gotta do gaps in between i just set up 2 days ago fresh water. Thank you so much for taking time out of your life to reply back i truly appreciate it
Typically I brush my pools on a weekly basis when I do my weekly maintenance visits. This link will tell about my weekly pool service regimen: ua-cam.com/video/IEkFSunjRvs/v-deo.html
this video was great.thanks for the information. my pool is 5000 gals.i did this process wrong. when i started my pool.the CYA was IDEAL. so i putted baking soda to raise ALK, and than add borax to raise PH. but my mistake was that i putted like 5 pounds at once for each base on the information from poolcalulator. tested and PH and ALK were high.so i than add muriatic acid.tested again and PH and ALK were IDEAL, but now my CYA was LOW.so i just add liquid chlorine and add one chlorine tablet. now my T and F CHLORINE is 3..... PH is 7.2.... ALK 120 but CYA is still low.
You may want to watch these three videos. 1. Adjusting just the alkalinity: ua-cam.com/video/60J-OcocMPo/v-deo.html Adjusting just the pH: ua-cam.com/video/l71Iii4uZgY/v-deo.html Cyanuric Acid-What You Need To Know: ua-cam.com/video/_z55SBsjadw/v-deo.html I think these will be helpful. And please subscribe to and share my channel.
Thank you so much for this. I had asked you the other day and you took care of me. I really do appreciate all your help. Out of all the channels I have watched your is the best explained and just over all genuinely the best of All. Thanks and God bless
Doing a drain and refill of a 30ft round pool. Watched video and took notes in preparation to balance chemicals correctly but I do have two questions please. First, we have well water, so obviously orange/brown with metals. We have always used a bottle of metal out. Do you recommend and do I do that first? Let pump circulate so long before proceeding with next steps? Next, I did note you said you do things differently than others. Everyone else 100% swears by balancing alkalinity first, but you say ph? And, differently do cya as first step prior to ph, alkalinity? I really want to use your method just have those questions. Thank you so much, your videos are clear and precise.
Hi Jennifer. With regards to the Metal Out I'd suggest following the label directions. And yes, I typically add the CYA first but most of the time when I do a start up, (since I"m only there once for the process. I typically add all the chemicals at once (or within a 1/2 hour time span) with the equipment running. I do it in the order I show in the NEWER video I did. Here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/1a4a2PGQc5E/v-deo.html. Hope that helps.
I just subscribed! My pool will be installed Friday! Its a 30' round extruded aluminum! We are exited! We'll need lots of guidance!! Yey! Your video is great.
Really appreciate your videos. So simple to understand. Quick question for you -- I put 4 lbs of cya acid granules in the skimmer as you show in your other videos...into my pool which was just emptied and refilled. My color on my strip test is still not registering on the scale. How long should it take to show up in the water? I'm afraid of overdoing it...
Typically only an hour or two as long as the pump was running to erode the CYA in the skimmer basket. At that point ad one pound of CYA in the same way, wait a couple of hours and test, repeat until your CYA reaches 30 ppm.
Again my thanks to you. I have another curve. I realized I have a Salt Chlorine generator unit...so I gather I would follow your steps with that unit OFF ..get everything balanced and then check the salt level (add as needed to make it happy PPM ) ? Sorry, but mine got more complex and i am TOTAL newbie :-) WHich is why I was so impressed with your video - made perfect sense
It would really depend on the brand of salt generator. To be sure I'd recommend reading the manufacturers recommendations on at what point to turn on the salt system. Typically it's best to get ph and alkalinity and salt levels to ideal before firing up the salt system. But I'd double check with the brand's manual.
Hi Mr Kenny Thanks for your great video as usual. Since I started using the tabs my chlorine stayed good. Less liquid chlorine. Thanks again. Can’t wait for your next video about tabs and liquid chlorine.
Kenny, I have had a pool for 42yrs!! Thanks so much, this is the first time I have had someone tell me how to control the Cyanuric Acid. Even people at the pool store, I guess because they don't know, say don't worry about it. Also loved how you explained everything else. Thanks Again!
Great video. I've just replastered and refilled with water. In your list of chemicals, you end with needing Dry Pool Acid. Why buy this when we are already using Muriatic Acid and Cyanuric Acid. Can't we just add those to lower Alkalinity? Thanks.
For some reason (which I can't explain because I'm not. a chemist, the dry acid lowers the alkalinity without affecting the pH. And Muriatic acid lowers the pH without affecting the alkalinity.
You always add with the pool running and the only 2 chemicals you don't want to add on top of each other is acid and liquid chlorine(very bad). Add one wait an hour and add the other. Or when I was in the industry we couldn't stand there and wait an hour, so we would add one at one end of the pool and the other at the other end.
@@alizee6256 So glad to hear that. Hope you'll subscribe and watch my videos. I think they'll be most helpful for you. Also stay tuned for an exciting and important announcement for DIY Pool Owners. You're not gonna want to miss it. Turn on my channel notifications. It's coming in the next week or two.
You can. If you're concerned about over dosing the pool then reduce them a little bit (ie: instead of 1 pound use 2/3 of a pound) etc. Also for more great DIY pool maintenance stuff check out poolschooler.com
I would say yes, except when it comes to the cyanuric acid you want to probably dilute that in a big bucket of water first, then distribute it in your Above Ground Pool. Because if any of those granules settle on the bottom, it could damage the vinyl liner.
I'm not a fan of any salt system as they just don't hold up well. So I really can't recommend any particular one. Nor can I really be accurate on how much each one is. That really depends on the person installing it. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Also.. using those text strips you have to have PH in range, other wise the strips won’t give you proper reading on CYA, right under directions in the note section on the strips container it’s there written and I have experienced that manny times where CYA wasn’t reading because PH was too low. As soon as I got the PH in range CYA was showing up on the strip.
Pool School Hello, I have almost 20k gal pool wand SPA, I just had a new plaster, I’ll really appreciated if you have any video explain the best program I can set it to have an effective cleaner. I just installed Pentair VSP. Thanks
Emeil Nasralla The Pentair VSP is a good pump/motor. Usually it has a default setting that I recommend. But I did a video on filter run times and I discuss the run times for swim season and off-season whether you have a single speed pump or variable speed pump I would highly recommend watching it. Just do a UA-cam search puncheon “filter run times“ and then punch in pool school and it should show up.
We used to tell all our customers when they were new pool owners, you can always add more, but you can't take it out. Until you get good at understanding your pool chemistry, add a little with the pool running, wait about an hour and test and see where your at.
great info ! **however, it seems to me that one of the constant struggles of pool water is "high CYA" . A local pool professional here in Tucson AZ told me once that he doesn't add any CYA when he starts up a pool that has just been refilled. Reason being : the water here holds CYA and climbs fast (if you use tablets - stabilizer) . I imagine that you would need to add some if you are using liquid chlorine to start up, otherwise there is nothing to "stabilize" the sanitizer, correct? in your video, you recommend bringing it up to the parameter for balanced water. Is this start up CYA necessary ? Opinion from a fellow Arizonan , thanks !
Thanks for commenting. In my experience I've found that on a fresh water start up you do need to add some CYA to get things going. Remember, not enough CYA also causes the pool to not hold chlorine. BUT far too many people (sadly often at the recommendation of some - NOT ALL- pool supply companies add way too much and then when they do use the tablets the CYA has no "wiggle room" within the range. I try to get the CYA to the lowest end of the ideal range which is 30ppm. And then even with using as much tablets as some do in our hot AZ summers the CYA usually takes around 5 years to get to a place where you need to change the water.
Thanks for the reply ! @@PoolSchooler I think you are correct and I'm not sure why that pool person suggested not adding any CYA at startup after a complete refill of the pool. maybe he wanted to sell me more chlorine or something. Thanks for all the info and your channel is the best pool channel out there ! Learned so much from you over the last few years ! keep up the good work !
Hi pool school, We have never owned a pool. We have just had an existing below ground pool refurbished. It has been filled with our well water. I have now realized how hard it is to get the chemicals correct , words I've never heard of. I think my head is going to explode 🥺
Typically it's the same things. Florida may have an abundance of phosphates due to the vegetation there. You may want to watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/MzGoK4Cd7tc/v-deo.html Also you probably will have a bit less evaporation of your pool water as compared to a dry hot climate like Arizona. But other than those two it's relatively the same.
It does but keep in mind the gallonage of the pool. When I did this video I was basing it on a typical play pool of between 10,000 and 12,000 gallons. So if your AGP is less than that make sure you reduce the amounts accordingly.
Hello, I have a question about just using the above ground chemical starter kit. The instruction says don't just put the tablets in the pool. Use a dispenser....what kind of dispenser are they referring to?
Hello sir thank you for this video. I have a saltwater pool that has a grey gunite finish which I just drained due to me not keeping up with maintenance which caused staining of the surface. I completely drained, acid cleaned everything with muriatic acid pressure washed. Looks brand new again and all of the stains are gone and now am refilling the pool does this apply to saltwater pools? Thank you very much.
It does but you'll want to add salt to raise the salinity to the recommended levels for your salt system. I usually use liquid chlorine so the pool doesn't struggle while the salt cell is getting going and the salt dissolving. Once your cell is doing well and the level of salinity is good you won't need to use chlorine except for supplemental help if your salt system can't keep up in the heat of summer.
I have really enjoyed and learned from your videos. I find your instructions clear, the videos seem to flow well, and you are easy to listen to. I just opened my brand new pool (Thursday Pools Sandal Beach Entry 12,000 gal). I went from green to clear in just over 36 hrs following your instructions. Pump ran the whole time on high, cleared the skimmer and strainer 3 times and just backwashed once at the end of the 36 hrs.CYA is still just a little low, but I am sneaking up to barely be in the 30-50 range. I have an automatic chlorinator but will be changing to salt (IC40) with an Easytouch 8 automation system (Doing it myself when they are finished as they wanted over $6K for an IC20 and easytouch 4 and I paid $2500). Any suggestions on how to clean the Beach Entry part? I figure I can vacuum about half way up before the vacuum starts sucking air. I was thinking just take the brush and sweep the rest to the deeper part.
Beach entry's are tricky to clean. It's hard to keep the sand out of the main pool and out of the filter. Best thing to do to keep the sand out is to brush towards the sand. Then vacuum what you can below it. Check out poolschooler.com for more helpful tools and checklists.
@@PoolSchooler You forgot to tell them to add the Muriatic to a half bucket of water AND to brush the pool afterwards. ( Muriatic Acid is heavier than water and sinks to the bottom ) Muriatic will etch the plaster if not brushed around.
@@PoolSchooler The Pool Guy that does my neighbor's Pool told me to brush the Pool after adding Muriatic Acid. He stated that the acid is much heavier than water and will sink like a rock to the bottom and will etch the plaster or possibly pit. Also diluting the MA helps with spreading it out and not pooling in the bottom. Seems legit to me. I did read it is best practice to put water in a bucket and add 1/2 Gallon of MA on top....then pour in pool to help with all of the above. Just a fyi. Coming from Arizona The Mecca of Pools.
@@PrettyGoodLookin I have never in over 20 years of doing this ever heard that. From not only pool service experts but suppliers as well. If the liquid M/A is poured into the water and the pump running the circulation would distribute it around the pool so I don't think one would need to brush it to "stir" it up.
I actually did a three part series on them. Here's links to them in order: Salt Systems Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/o_NRYkFHuBg/v-deo.html Cleaning Your Salt Cell: ua-cam.com/video/DZuMcj7UydM/v-deo.html Testing Salt Levels: ua-cam.com/video/30xvXoSAS4c/v-deo.html Hope these help.
Yes sort of. Evaporation will occur and if you have an auto filler it’s will automatically add water and the mix will dilute in time. But if you want it done quicker yes you’d have to train a little bit of your pool and refill it. If you have a filter they can be back washed you can backwash it a bit and then refill it just make sure the level doesn’t drop below your skimmer.
If you have have high CYA leading to Chlorine lock, what does adjusting TA or pH matter? You'll end up dumping a ton of well-balanced water to lower the CYA, and have to start all over again. I'd argue high CYA should be addressed first.
Installing my pool next week. Seen a lot of videos, getting nervous about the chemicals. You’ve helped a lot. What about algaecide? Seen some people talk about that? Is that something to add or will it screw up my levels.
NO you don't need to add algaecide as a start up chemical (or ever). Keep the phosphate levels low, and maintain your pool chemistry, keep the filter media clean and run your filter pump long enough and you should have no issues with algae.
What if I have a small pool 14' x 42" and I have the Taylor test kit and it's a bit overwhelming trying to figure out what tune to fill and what my #s are 😕
@@WendyMaclaughlin a lot of fan of the Taylor test kits I like the test strips better. You’re gonna need some CYA in your pool. The level should be between 30 and 50 ppm. You want to have chlorine levels in your pool between three and 5 ppm do you want around 7.6 and your alkalinity between 80 and 120 ppm.
@@WendyMaclaughlin it would depend on the chemical. For instance, if you’re adding liquid muriatic acid to lower the pH, I would probably use half a quart instead of a full court when it comes to soda as if you need to raise the pH add half a pound. So I would typically recommend for a pull your size cut the amounts in half of whatever I recommended.
You mentioned to purchase 4 gallons of chlorine, however, to just add 2 pounds initially. I’m assuming you continue to add as your chlorine levels increase but wait two hours between applications? We have a 40,000 gallon pool, so my assumption is it’s going to take closer to the 4 gallons of chlorine.
With a 40k gallon pool you can add all 4 gallons at once. Add all 4 gallons and then wait an hour and retest the water. I'm guessing it'll probably still be low and add another gallon at a time every hour til you get the level up to ideal.
Our pool is 38,000 gallons and was just refilled. The guy we hired to do it stated we had to let our pads soak with bleach and water for about a week. He hasn’t added anything to the pool since it’s been filled (2 days so far) and I’m concerned about the water sitting without anything being added? He stated all we need to add is stabilizer at first. It’s a very large pool and I’m not sure when to add chemicals or if he’s correct. We’re in Tucson BTW
Soak the "pads" with bleach? I'm not sure what he's talking about . Does he mean the filter cartridges. Unless you have new pebble tech or something like that which does need some time with the pool to properly "cure" I'm not really sure what your pool guy's talking about. Sorry.
Kenny, I’m days away from a drain & refill on my 10k gallon pool due to high CYA of 400ppm. Then I’ll do a chlorine rinse to kill off algae. I’ll wet the walls and apply chlorine using a pump sprayer. Should I dilute the chlorine or can you recommend a ratio to use. It’s a 40yro plaster pool. Also, everyone’s favorite pool store, “L”, wants to sell me an $80 gallon of “Conditioner” and 10 bags of expensive shock “and you’re to go”. No dry acid, soda ash or bicarbonate of soda. But I see you don’t mention the use Shock at all when refilling. Do you advise against their method and why? Thanks.
It’s really hard for me to advise on using a chlorine rinse or an acid wash on plaster that old. So I’m going to refrain from making any recommendations on that. When plaster is that old it’s very possible to do serious damage to it. As far as dealing with algae, the number one reason for algae providing you have proper pool chemistry chlorine levels where they need to be an adequate and clean filtration is phosphates. Check out my video on algae and algicide and why you don’t need them.
I have a above ground pool and my skimmer basket is connected to the pump. If I took the top off my basket I think the water would spill out as long as the pump is running , Soooo??????
Unfortunately, I’m uncertain as to what you are describing. Perhaps you can email me a picture of the set up and I could better assist you. Kennypoolschool@gmail.com
Would you use these same guidelines for starting up a new, in-ground plastered pool? Adding of course brushing it multiple times per day and cleaning the filter after a few days? I've read it is also best to wait a week or so to add chlorine? We did an owner build and can't seem to find a reputable local company to do a pool start up.
I would follow the Plaster manufacturers guidelines on how long to wait after filling the pool before adding chlorine or any chemicals for that matter. Sometimes the plaster needs a certain out of time to cure the water. So check the manufacturer is labeling on that. As far as the chemicals go yes the same chemicals would be use for the start up of a brand new pool. And you already have a handle on making sure that you clean the filter to get out all the residual plaster powder.
It is except you should check with whoever put in the pebble tech, i.e. the pool builder and find out if there is a “curing“ time needed for the pebble Tec once the water is in the pool. Sometimes they recommend that once you have the water in but before you add chemicals to allow the pebble tech to cure properly, so check with the manufacturer or builder first and follow their recommendations as to when you can add the start up chemicals after the pool is filled
Hi Kenny , just a question, I want to raise the CYA in my pool but I don’t know if I should trust the products from a regular store like Chlorine stabilizer, do you recommend a specific one or should I trust the one from lowes or walmart?
Hi, I service pools in Vegas and Im starting to notice purple staining on some of my pools. Yes a few are fiberglass with high cyanuric acid levels but Im noticing purple staining on tiles and plaster. I know of high copper levels. How or what do you suggest in removing the purple staining and what is causing it to happen? Thank you for your videos
The staining is caused when the water has formed something called copper cyanurate. Copper cyanurate occurs when excessive levels of cyanuric acid combine with non-chelated copper that is present in the water. This problem is most common in that have cyanuric acid levels measuring above 100ppm
Do you recommend a salt water system over using Chemicals? We just purchased an above ground pool from intex. Just a small 16’x9’ pool for the kids and it just seems like a lot of chemicals to be storing and seems to be pretty pricey compared to a salt water system. I work 60-70 hours a week so looking for a system that is easy to maintain. Any advise you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video very knowledgeable.
I did a series on salt pools and my honest opinion is after working with salt systems for over a decade I'm not a fan. Two main reasons, the salt used for pools is chemically derived and not natural so it's exchanging one man made or chemically altered chemical for another and I have found that for the money the salt systems are simply not worth it.
My pool is 15000 kidney shape 3feet at the low end and 6deep end … my CYA reads 150-300 , can I drain 1/2 and refill and to bring cya Down instead of ful drain and refill?
150-300 is a pretty large range. Typically you could narrow it down to closer to the 150 or 300 side. If it's closer to the 150 you should be fine until the summer's over then in the fall you can drain and refill the pool with less risk of harming your surface. JUST make sure you don't over dose your pool with CYA
Not at all. Add as many as you need to keep your chlorine levels up in the ideal range between 1-5 ppm. Hope you'll subscribe to and share my channel and for more money saving DIY pool stuff please check out my website poolschooler.com
Great video, one concern I have is that I’m not sure if my water source is suitable for re filling the swimming pool. It’s a well and not a super deep one so a lot of rust like minerals. Is it possible I need to have water delivered or can the chemistry be properly balanced despite the water not being the greatest. What do you suggest?
It's the same with the exception, of course, of having to add pool salt. Your pools supply store should be able to tell and sell you the amount you need for your size pool.
dax mark you probably wouldn’t need to use the liquid chlorine with a salt pool. Usually you add the salt immediately to get your salinity up to the proper levels as you are adjusting pH and alkalinity and cyanuric acid. Occasionally you could as a start up throw a gallon of liquid chlorine in to give you a little wiggle room to allow time for the salt to dissolve and the salt generator to do its job.
CYA helps the pool hold chlorine. Without it you'll burn through a lot more chlorine. It is possible to start up a pool without it, just know that you'll burn through a lot more chlorine and should get some ASAP.
It's safe to put 1 lb of Cyanuric Acid in the skimmer while the system running?(concentration in just one place in the skimmer)? What's happen if someone at home accidently opens the skimmer during that time?
You would want to make sure someone doesn't. Just like you would have make sure someone wouldn't open a chlorine tablet floater and mess with the tablets inside.
@@Mz_Kia79 Typically it's what's available at your local pool supply store. And the choice of how much depends on how much you want to have available and how often you want to have to buy more.
My total chlorine is always is always bottomed out but my free chlorine stays pretty level. I keep the PH balanced and use shock granules weekly and chlorine tabs as well. I can figure out how its always low.
I jut bought a 6,021 gal. above ground pool with a sand filter. Are the proportions you say to add all around the same or do i need to do calculations for the capacity of my pool?
Congratulations on your above ground pool. I’m pretty sure I know the type it’s probably similar to the one that we used to have which is actually in one of the first videos I did called “getting to know your pool“ or understanding your pool. With regards to amounts. Because I stayed in the video that you should add them in small amounts I.e.: 1 quart of acid at a time or 1 pound of CYA at a time, you should be fine. Just remember to test every couple hours after adding chemicals so you don’t overdo any other chemicals. Especially the cyanuric acid
Not if you get your phosphates down, have a clean filter and proper pool chemistry. You may want to add some trichlor granules to help kill off any visible algae, BUT I DON'T USE NOR RECOMMEND ALGAECIDES EVER. I think I say why in this video.
Question: so i add the CYA and then unstablized Cl to start. After the initial start up, do I need to continue using unstablized Cl or can I switch to tablets? I don't want to end up with too much CYA. Hopefully that makes sense!
What is great about this video is that you will check in 20 years from now(2024) and the steps still will be the same. I am watching it 5 years after he posted it.
I appreciate your comment. Thanks for watching. Hope you subscribed to my channel and hope you will share it with others.
Same. I refer to this often.
After being screwed by 3 different pool companies I decided to clean my pool myself. Thank you for your videos my pool has never looked better. My neighbor asked me who I used to clean my pool because mine looked so nice and his looked like crap. Now I take care of both of our pools. Thanks once again.
I'm delighted to hear that. That's exactly the reason I created and continue to add to this channel. It's also why I created Poolschooler.com you may want to check it out, but honestly if you're doing great with just this channel it may not be worth the extra $99 per year for that membership. But go check out the video on the website and see what ya think.
I watched this a dozen times (and countless of your other videos) trying to get my pool started after I had to do a chlorine wash. Massive amounts of information and clearly delivered in easy, short lessons (like school)! I followed these exact steps to start up my 20k gallon pool (I can’t believe you just dump the cya in the skimmer)! Thank you so much, I feel like I have a much better understanding of what I need to do to take care of my own pool now!
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I watch this video each year, for the past couple of years, at the start of summer when opening our pool. It's very helpful as a guide for understanding when and how to add chemicals. Thank you.
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Thanks so much for taking the mystery out of this. I drained my pool and couldn’t find anyone explaining how to refill it. Not sure if I need you anymore but I did watch it to the end, like and subscribed to help you out.
Thanks so much.
I have owned my pool for about 10 years and this video cleared up so many questions I have had and was not able to get answered by "big pool stores". thank you...
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You're great! You explain things at a good pace and make it understandable...unlike like going to the pool place and having them speak at you 100 mph in Chinese! Thank you. You are my new go to guy for pool info!!!
Thanks Brenda. Glad to be of help. Hope you'll check out poolschooler.com too.
I drained and filled my pool by following your very thorough video instructions. Thank you so very much ! I have learned so much about maintaining my pool from your videos.
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@@PoolSchooler I have !
@@atzimier6896 thank you.
This is so helpful I bought a pool and don’t know what I’m doing lol you are so helpful and right to the point new subbie
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Definitely look this stuff up. My dad has worked in the pool industry my whole life and has said everything this guy does. I love it and the channel it makes me happy to see people save money!
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God ! I don’t know anything about pools and bought a house with a pool watched videos about this subject for hours and it scared the hell oit of me. This is the most straightforward no none sense video Kenny. Thanks so much.
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I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your vids. I find you very easy to listen to and follow. Thank you. I just bought a house in AZ and this is my first pool ever. I know absolutely nothing and your vids are greatly helping.
Thanks so much for you comments. I'm glad to hear my videos are helpful.
I struggled with my pool until my aunt introduced me to eclipse 3 and showed me how putting a hair net in my skimmer will help filter smaller particles.Its a learning curve but google and test strips are your friend.I love any advice I can get so thank you pool school!!
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I agree with most of what I've seen on these videos. I'm here in Tempe and I'd hire this guy. He let's the pool stores off way too easy though. The local chain store (you know the one) has very few competent sales people. I was convinced that I needed to change the water and Pool School confirmed that. But the guys at the store kept telling me more shock. Three weeks and 36 pounds of shock later (48,000 gallon pool), I never got a reading with any free chlorine. Finally went to Checker Pool (better independent store) and got significantly different chemistry results. This time, I found that I had TDS at 2800 ppm and CYA off the chart. Replaced water and started up the pool (based on what Pool School suggested and NOT what I the chain store "strongly recommended"). Water is perfect now. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment. I’m so glad my channel was helpful to you. 36 pounds of shock WOW! I’m glad you broke free of that store.
All the videos I watched from you last year my first yr with pool and read and read and I'm right back! I just can't remember this stuff correctly! As I expected same as last yr refilling my pool my pH high need calcium hardener and alkalinity low.
Check out my membership website poolschooler.com. It's got a lot of stuff including chemical and maintenance check lists for your particular type of pool/filter system.
Thank you so much for making this video! It took me forever to find a video explaining what to do to start up a pool!
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The biggest thing you have taught me so far is phosphate and how it effects the water. I never knew this was food that algae needed to survive and so far phosphate remover has made a major difference!
Am so glad I found someone that speaks my language w pool tools... have had a pool for 3 yrs now & this year I actually just drained a little & covered. Mid December we had a mishap with my cover ripping, brand new cover. But.. now I do have a little more of a mess. So am hunting a cheap but good vac to begin to open.
Thank u for this info
Hi Kenny, first time watcher. Enjoyed your video and learned something. Will subscribe. Thanks!
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Thanks for the info. I purchased a home with a pool and let it sit for over a year before using it. We're filling up with fresh water, so hope this works!
You got this. Take your time adding the CYA 1 pound at a time test after an hour or two and repeat if you need to. that way you’ll prevent overdosing it.
This is great. Was trying to find a video on how to get started with a new pool. Thanks for the detailed information.
LMR65 glad it was helpful. Don’t forget to subscribe.
Can you please do a starter chemical instruction on saltwater pools is which I have in a salt chlorinator
That is a great idea. I will definitely work on one and get one out in the next month, so please turn on your notifications for my channel.
I have enjoyed watching your video and learned a lot. Thank you very much for sharing this information.
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Thanks a bunch. This was really informative.
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Can i put the stabulizer first then shock and have the pucks on a floatie for a 6,021 pool
sure.
@@PoolSchooler can do this all at the same time or do i gotta do gaps in between i just set up 2 days ago fresh water. Thank you so much for taking time out of your life to reply back i truly appreciate it
Thank you for your clear explanations. We just drained our pool and will follow your instructions. BTW... love the verse on your mirror!
Thanks.
Love your videos! Do you have any people in Dallas that do pool service?
Unfortunately I don't know of anyone in Dallas for pool service. Sorry.
@@PoolSchooler No worries Brother.
How often do you brush the pool and when?
Typically I brush my pools on a weekly basis when I do my weekly maintenance visits. This link will tell about my weekly pool service regimen: ua-cam.com/video/IEkFSunjRvs/v-deo.html
Thank you for your knowledge and attention to detail.
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this video was great.thanks for the information. my pool is 5000 gals.i did this process wrong. when i started my pool.the CYA was IDEAL. so i putted baking soda to raise ALK, and than add borax to raise PH. but my mistake was that i putted like 5 pounds at once for each base on the information from poolcalulator. tested and PH and ALK were high.so i than add muriatic acid.tested again and PH and ALK were IDEAL, but now my CYA was LOW.so i just add liquid chlorine and add one chlorine tablet. now my T and F CHLORINE is 3..... PH is 7.2.... ALK 120 but CYA is still low.
You may want to watch these three videos. 1. Adjusting just the alkalinity: ua-cam.com/video/60J-OcocMPo/v-deo.html
Adjusting just the pH: ua-cam.com/video/l71Iii4uZgY/v-deo.html
Cyanuric Acid-What You Need To Know: ua-cam.com/video/_z55SBsjadw/v-deo.html
I think these will be helpful.
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Thank you so much for this. I had asked you the other day and you took care of me. I really do appreciate all your help. Out of all the channels I have watched your is the best explained and just over all genuinely the best of All. Thanks and God bless
jackbquick123 thank you for your kind words. I’m so glad the videos are helpful.
Currently replastering my pool thank you for this info
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Doing a drain and refill of a 30ft round pool. Watched video and took notes in preparation to balance chemicals correctly but I do have two questions please. First, we have well water, so obviously orange/brown with metals. We have always used a bottle of metal out. Do you recommend and do I do that first? Let pump circulate so long before proceeding with next steps?
Next, I did note you said you do things differently than others. Everyone else 100% swears by balancing alkalinity first, but you say ph? And, differently do cya as first step prior to ph, alkalinity? I really want to use your method just have those questions. Thank you so much, your videos are clear and precise.
Hi Jennifer. With regards to the Metal Out I'd suggest following the label directions. And yes, I typically add the CYA first but most of the time when I do a start up, (since I"m only there once for the process. I typically add all the chemicals at once (or within a 1/2 hour time span) with the equipment running. I do it in the order I show in the NEWER video I did. Here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/1a4a2PGQc5E/v-deo.html. Hope that helps.
Another great video. After all the chemicals are balanced. How long should I run the pump for? Thanks
This video will tell you: ua-cam.com/video/RRAHlbfYjwg/v-deo.html
I just subscribed! My pool will be installed Friday! Its a 30' round extruded aluminum! We are exited! We'll need lots of guidance!! Yey! Your video is great.
Really appreciate your videos. So simple to understand. Quick question for you -- I put 4 lbs of cya acid granules in the skimmer as you show in your other videos...into my pool which was just emptied and refilled. My color on my strip test is still not registering on the scale. How long should it take to show up in the water? I'm afraid of overdoing it...
Typically only an hour or two as long as the pump was running to erode the CYA in the skimmer basket. At that point ad one pound of CYA in the same way, wait a couple of hours and test, repeat until your CYA reaches 30 ppm.
Again my thanks to you. I have another curve. I realized I have a Salt Chlorine generator unit...so I gather I would follow your steps with that unit OFF ..get everything balanced and then check the salt level (add as needed to make it happy PPM ) ? Sorry, but mine got more complex and i am TOTAL newbie :-) WHich is why I was so impressed with your video - made perfect sense
It would really depend on the brand of salt generator. To be sure I'd recommend reading the manufacturers recommendations on at what point to turn on the salt system. Typically it's best to get ph and alkalinity and salt levels to ideal before firing up the salt system. But I'd double check with the brand's manual.
Thanks for this video. How about placing chlorine tabs in the skimmer basket?
You can but it isn’t recommended because the chlorine over time could possibly corrode your lines. You want to get a floater or a chlorinator.
This was worth the like and subscribe. I’m doing so now.
Thank you.
@@PoolSchooler Yw thank you
Finally found a video that it’s going to help me with my pool. I have watched so many videos and not helpful at all! Thank you.
Cristela I do hope it is helpful.
Great video! The easiest and most helpful video I've found on this!
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Thank you for this much needed info. One question: does this info also applies to above ground pools?
It does, just take note most above ground pools are smaller so don’t add really quite as much as you would a typical pool
Hi Mr Kenny Thanks for your great video as usual. Since I started using the tabs my chlorine stayed good. Less liquid chlorine. Thanks again. Can’t wait for your next video about tabs and liquid chlorine.
So glad it's working so well. Thanks for the comment.
Kenny, I have had a pool for 42yrs!! Thanks so much, this is the first time I have had someone tell me how to control the Cyanuric Acid. Even people at the pool store, I guess because they don't know, say don't worry about it. Also loved how you explained everything else. Thanks Again!
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Great video. I've just replastered and refilled with water. In your list of chemicals, you end with needing Dry Pool Acid. Why buy this when we are already using Muriatic Acid and Cyanuric Acid. Can't we just add those to lower Alkalinity? Thanks.
For some reason (which I can't explain because I'm not. a chemist, the dry acid lowers the alkalinity without affecting the pH. And Muriatic acid lowers the pH without affecting the alkalinity.
Question, you can add all of these chemicals at the same time? Or one chemical at a time run the pump for a hour then add another chemical etc
You always add with the pool running and the only 2 chemicals you don't want to add on top of each other is acid and liquid chlorine(very bad). Add one wait an hour and add the other. Or when I was in the industry we couldn't stand there and wait an hour, so we would add one at one end of the pool and the other at the other end.
Does this also all apply for a 12x30 intex above ground pool?
It does, only be careful with any solid chemical like the cyanuric acid you don’t want that to settle on the vinyl liner in the bottom of the pool.
@@PoolSchooler thank you so much this is the first time I’ve ever had a pool and have no clue what I’m doing this was a super helpful video!
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Great video. Ibhave above ground pool about. 1,100 gallons, how do i calculate the ammount you were talking about? Just divide it by 10?
I'm not sure you have to be that exact. Just start with less, and retest adding as needed.
I have a 5100 gallon pool can I use these measurements for this thank you
You can. If you're concerned about over dosing the pool then reduce them a little bit (ie: instead of 1 pound use 2/3 of a pound) etc. Also for more great DIY pool maintenance stuff check out poolschooler.com
Do I do exactly what you did in video on a 24x52 above ground pool 13,500 gallon
I would say yes, except when it comes to the cyanuric acid you want to probably dilute that in a big bucket of water first, then distribute it in your Above Ground Pool. Because if any of those granules settle on the bottom, it could damage the vinyl liner.
What type you can Recomended for salt water a use baquacil ? I’m getting new now we you please tell me how much of each one a put it appreciate
I'm not a fan of any salt system as they just don't hold up well. So I really can't recommend any particular one. Nor can I really be accurate on how much each one is. That really depends on the person installing it. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Also.. using those text strips you have to have PH in range, other wise the strips won’t give you proper reading on CYA, right under directions in the note section on the strips container it’s there written and I have experienced that manny times where CYA wasn’t reading because PH was too low. As soon as I got the PH in range CYA was showing up on the strip.
Great video!! Thanks for sharing such information.
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Pool School Hello, I have almost 20k gal pool wand SPA, I just had a new plaster, I’ll really appreciated if you have any video explain the best program I can set it to have an effective cleaner. I just installed Pentair VSP. Thanks
Emeil Nasralla The Pentair VSP is a good pump/motor. Usually it has a default setting that I recommend. But I did a video on filter run times and I discuss the run times for swim season and off-season whether you have a single speed pump or variable speed pump I would highly recommend watching it. Just do a UA-cam search puncheon “filter run times“ and then punch in pool school and it should show up.
Pool School I really appreciated your quick feed back. Thanks I’ll check
Thanks!! We have a 5000gal cheapie pool so I'll take all your measurements in half or maybe slightly less than half and go from there.
We used to tell all our customers when they were new pool owners, you can always add more, but you can't take it out. Until you get good at understanding your pool chemistry, add a little with the pool running, wait about an hour and test and see where your at.
Great job! Thanks for all the info not many videos on this topic.
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great info ! **however, it seems to me that one of the constant struggles of pool water is "high CYA" . A local pool professional here in Tucson AZ told me once that he doesn't add any CYA when he starts up a pool that has just been refilled. Reason being : the water here holds CYA and climbs fast (if you use tablets - stabilizer) . I imagine that you would need to add some if you are using liquid chlorine to start up, otherwise there is nothing to "stabilize" the sanitizer, correct? in your video, you recommend bringing it up to the parameter for balanced water. Is this start up CYA necessary ? Opinion from a fellow Arizonan , thanks !
Thanks for commenting. In my experience I've found that on a fresh water start up you do need to add some CYA to get things going. Remember, not enough CYA also causes the pool to not hold chlorine. BUT far too many people (sadly often at the recommendation of some - NOT ALL- pool supply companies add way too much and then when they do use the tablets the CYA has no "wiggle room" within the range. I try to get the CYA to the lowest end of the ideal range which is 30ppm. And then even with using as much tablets as some do in our hot AZ summers the CYA usually takes around 5 years to get to a place where you need to change the water.
Thanks for the reply ! @@PoolSchooler I think you are correct and I'm not sure why that pool person suggested not adding any CYA at startup after a complete refill of the pool. maybe he wanted to sell me more chlorine or something. Thanks for all the info and your channel is the best pool channel out there ! Learned so much from you over the last few years ! keep up the good work !
@@Evepc_Tucson glad to be of help. Hope you’ll subscribe to my channel share with others.
Hi pool school,
We have never owned a pool. We have just had an existing below ground pool refurbished. It has been filled with our well water. I have now realized how hard it is to get the chemicals correct , words I've never heard of. I think my head is going to explode 🥺
Don’t panic, take your time did your chlorine levels up quickly get your stabilizer in the low part of ideal and then deal with your alkalinity and pH
What should I set my filter timer on
This video will answer that question: ua-cam.com/video/RRAHlbfYjwg/v-deo.html
Newbie who just bought a pool and watched this video. What problems should I look out for in a humid as opposed to a dry climate? (I live in Florida)
Typically it's the same things. Florida may have an abundance of phosphates due to the vegetation there. You may want to watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/MzGoK4Cd7tc/v-deo.html
Also you probably will have a bit less evaporation of your pool water as compared to a dry hot climate like Arizona. But other than those two it's relatively the same.
Does this apply to above ground pools also?
It does but keep in mind the gallonage of the pool. When I did this video I was basing it on a typical play pool of between 10,000 and 12,000 gallons. So if your AGP is less than that make sure you reduce the amounts accordingly.
Hello, I have a question about just using the above ground chemical starter kit. The instruction says don't just put the tablets in the pool. Use a dispenser....what kind of dispenser are they referring to?
I did a video on this here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/CLsvXnZFkZI/v-deo.html
I'd suggest the floating tablet dispenser I show in this video.
Mine is an above ground small pool 14×33
Yes you may not have to add as much but the chemicals are the same.
Hello sir thank you for this video. I have a saltwater pool that has a grey gunite finish which I just drained due to me not keeping up with maintenance which caused staining of the surface. I completely drained, acid cleaned everything with muriatic acid pressure washed. Looks brand new again and all of the stains are gone and now am refilling the pool does this apply to saltwater pools? Thank you very much.
It does but you'll want to add salt to raise the salinity to the recommended levels for your salt system. I usually use liquid chlorine so the pool doesn't struggle while the salt cell is getting going and the salt dissolving. Once your cell is doing well and the level of salinity is good you won't need to use chlorine except for supplemental help if your salt system can't keep up in the heat of summer.
@@PoolSchooler ahhhh I see thank you very much sir!!!!
@@Elev8minh You're welcome.
@@Elev8minh You're welcome
I have really enjoyed and learned from your videos. I find your instructions clear, the videos seem to flow well, and you are easy to listen to. I just opened my brand new pool (Thursday Pools Sandal Beach Entry 12,000 gal). I went from green to clear in just over 36 hrs following your instructions. Pump ran the whole time on high, cleared the skimmer and strainer 3 times and just backwashed once at the end of the 36 hrs.CYA is still just a little low, but I am sneaking up to barely be in the 30-50 range. I have an automatic chlorinator but will be changing to salt (IC40) with an Easytouch 8 automation system (Doing it myself when they are finished as they wanted over $6K for an IC20 and easytouch 4 and I paid $2500). Any suggestions on how to clean the Beach Entry part? I figure I can vacuum about half way up before the vacuum starts sucking air. I was thinking just take the brush and sweep the rest to the deeper part.
Beach entry's are tricky to clean. It's hard to keep the sand out of the main pool and out of the filter. Best thing to do to keep the sand out is to brush towards the sand. Then vacuum what you can below it.
Check out poolschooler.com for more helpful tools and checklists.
@@PoolSchooler You forgot to tell them to add the Muriatic to a half bucket of water AND to brush the pool afterwards. ( Muriatic Acid is heavier than water and sinks to the bottom ) Muriatic will etch the plaster if not brushed around.
@@PrettyGoodLookin I’ve never had to do that nor have I ever heard of any of the pool service guys or gals in my area ever doing that.
@@PoolSchooler The Pool Guy that does my neighbor's Pool told me to brush the Pool after adding Muriatic Acid. He stated that the acid is much heavier than water and will sink like a rock to the bottom and will etch the plaster or possibly pit. Also diluting the MA helps with spreading it out and not pooling in the bottom. Seems legit to me. I did read it is best practice to put water in a bucket and add 1/2 Gallon of MA on top....then pour in pool to help with all of the above. Just a fyi. Coming from Arizona The Mecca of Pools.
@@PrettyGoodLookin I have never in over 20 years of doing this ever heard that. From not only pool service experts but suppliers as well. If the liquid M/A is poured into the water and the pump running the circulation would distribute it around the pool so I don't think one would need to brush it to "stir" it up.
Do you have video on salt water pools?
I actually did a three part series on them. Here's links to them in order:
Salt Systems Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/o_NRYkFHuBg/v-deo.html
Cleaning Your Salt Cell: ua-cam.com/video/DZuMcj7UydM/v-deo.html
Testing Salt Levels: ua-cam.com/video/30xvXoSAS4c/v-deo.html
Hope these help.
Hello, both our T & F chlorine levels are high. Is the only fix for this to remove some of the pool water and add more fresh water?
Yes sort of. Evaporation will occur and if you have an auto filler it’s will automatically add water and the mix will dilute in time. But if you want it done quicker yes you’d have to train a little bit of your pool and refill it. If you have a filter they can be back washed you can backwash it a bit and then refill it just make sure the level doesn’t drop below your skimmer.
@@PoolSchooler thank you I appreciate you
If you have have high CYA leading to Chlorine lock, what does adjusting TA or pH matter? You'll end up dumping a ton of well-balanced water to lower the CYA, and have to start all over again. I'd argue high CYA should be addressed first.
I agree. If the CYA is high the only way to lower it is through dilution and in Arizona we typically will drain the pool and refill.
You explain it very well congrats....
Thanks a lot!
Installing my pool next week. Seen a lot of videos, getting nervous about the chemicals. You’ve helped a lot. What about algaecide? Seen some people talk about that? Is that something to add or will it screw up my levels.
NO you don't need to add algaecide as a start up chemical (or ever). Keep the phosphate levels low, and maintain your pool chemistry, keep the filter media clean and run your filter pump long enough and you should have no issues with algae.
Is this for underground pools?
Do you mean in-ground pools? Yes. And above ground pools as well.
What if I have a small pool 14' x 42" and I have the Taylor test kit and it's a bit overwhelming trying to figure out what tune to fill and what my #s are 😕
@@WendyMaclaughlin a lot of fan of the Taylor test kits I like the test strips better. You’re gonna need some CYA in your pool. The level should be between 30 and 50 ppm. You want to have chlorine levels in your pool between three and 5 ppm do you want around 7.6 and your alkalinity between 80 and 120 ppm.
@@PoolSchooler- I think my pool is only 3500 gallons so what are the calculations for those same pool chemicals ?
@@WendyMaclaughlin it would depend on the chemical. For instance, if you’re adding liquid muriatic acid to lower the pH, I would probably use half a quart instead of a full court when it comes to soda as if you need to raise the pH add half a pound. So I would typically recommend for a pull your size cut the amounts in half of whatever I recommended.
We have a smaller 3,512 gallon pool are the chemical amounts you gave ok for this size?
You may want to adjust the amounts down a bit so as to not risk over dosing the pool. Maybe reduce the amount by 1/3
How soon after adding each chemical can you swim? Is there a video regarding a salt system and chlorine?
It really depends on how much of that chemical you add to the pool.
You mentioned to purchase 4 gallons of chlorine, however, to just add 2 pounds initially. I’m assuming you continue to add as your chlorine levels increase but wait two hours between applications? We have a 40,000 gallon pool, so my assumption is it’s going to take closer to the 4 gallons of chlorine.
With a 40k gallon pool you can add all 4 gallons at once. Add all 4 gallons and then wait an hour and retest the water. I'm guessing it'll probably still be low and add another gallon at a time every hour til you get the level up to ideal.
Thank you for the great videos by the way
You're welcome
Our pool is 38,000 gallons and was just refilled. The guy we hired to do it stated we had to let our pads soak with bleach and water for about a week. He hasn’t added anything to the pool since it’s been filled (2 days so far) and I’m concerned about the water sitting without anything being added? He stated all we need to add is stabilizer at first. It’s a very large pool and I’m not sure when to add chemicals or if he’s correct. We’re in Tucson BTW
Soak the "pads" with bleach? I'm not sure what he's talking about . Does he mean the filter cartridges.
Unless you have new pebble tech or something like that which does need some time with the pool to properly "cure" I'm not really sure what your pool guy's talking about. Sorry.
@@PoolSchooler yes it’s the pads that came from the filter I believe.
@@desireeduke698 Hm. Typically those are just hosed off and then put back in. Not sure what your pool guy is doing. Doesn't sound right.
Kenny, I’m days away from a drain & refill on my 10k gallon pool due to high CYA of 400ppm. Then I’ll do a chlorine rinse to kill off algae. I’ll wet the walls and apply chlorine using a pump sprayer. Should I dilute the chlorine or can you recommend a ratio to use. It’s a 40yro plaster pool.
Also, everyone’s favorite pool store, “L”, wants to sell me an $80 gallon of “Conditioner” and 10 bags of expensive shock “and you’re to go”. No dry acid, soda ash or bicarbonate of soda. But I see you don’t mention the use Shock at all when refilling. Do you advise against their method and why? Thanks.
It’s really hard for me to advise on using a chlorine rinse or an acid wash on plaster that old. So I’m going to refrain from making any recommendations on that. When plaster is that old it’s very possible to do serious damage to it.
As far as dealing with algae, the number one reason for algae providing you have proper pool chemistry chlorine levels where they need to be an adequate and clean filtration is phosphates. Check out my video on algae and algicide and why you don’t need them.
Thanks Mr. Kenny, all your videos are really helpfull. Can wait for more!
Hope you're a subscriber.
Great video from a pool tech
Thanks. Hope you subscribed
I have a above ground pool and my skimmer basket is connected to the pump. If I took the top off my basket I think the water would spill out as long as the pump is running , Soooo??????
Unfortunately, I’m uncertain as to what you are describing. Perhaps you can email me a picture of the set up and I could better assist you. Kennypoolschool@gmail.com
Would you use these same guidelines for starting up a new, in-ground plastered pool? Adding of course brushing it multiple times per day and cleaning the filter after a few days? I've read it is also best to wait a week or so to add chlorine? We did an owner build and can't seem to find a reputable local company to do a pool start up.
I would follow the Plaster manufacturers guidelines on how long to wait after filling the pool before adding chlorine or any chemicals for that matter. Sometimes the plaster needs a certain out of time to cure the water. So check the manufacturer is labeling on that. As far as the chemicals go yes the same chemicals would be use for the start up of a brand new pool. And you already have a handle on making sure that you clean the filter to get out all the residual plaster powder.
Is this same start up for pebble tec pools?
It is except you should check with whoever put in the pebble tech, i.e. the pool builder and find out if there is a “curing“ time needed for the pebble Tec once the water is in the pool. Sometimes they recommend that once you have the water in but before you add chemicals to allow the pebble tech to cure properly, so check with the manufacturer or builder first and follow their recommendations as to when you can add the start up chemicals after the pool is filled
Thank you for this first time pool needed this today!
I'm doing a startup in a pool can't i turn on my system if i have a new plaster
I would recommend following the installers recommendations.
Hi Kenny , just a question, I want to raise the CYA in my pool but I don’t know if I should trust the products from a regular store like Chlorine stabilizer, do you recommend a specific one or should I trust the one from lowes or walmart?
most any CYA or stabilizer will do as long as it's CYA (Cyanuric Acid).
Thanks. 👍
Hi, I service pools in Vegas and Im starting to notice purple staining on some of my pools. Yes a few are fiberglass with high cyanuric acid levels but Im noticing purple staining on tiles and plaster. I know of high copper levels. How or what do you suggest in removing the purple staining and what is causing it to happen? Thank you for your videos
The staining is caused when the water has formed something called copper cyanurate. Copper cyanurate occurs when excessive levels of cyanuric acid combine with non-chelated copper that is present in the water. This problem is most common in that have cyanuric acid levels measuring above 100ppm
This article may help: aquamagazine.com/features/avoid-opening-pools-to-copper-stains.html
Thank you ! Great. New pool owner.
Thank you too!
Do you recommend a salt water system over using Chemicals? We just purchased an above ground pool from intex. Just a small 16’x9’ pool for the kids and it just seems like a lot of chemicals to be storing and seems to be pretty pricey compared to a salt water system. I work 60-70 hours a week so looking for a system that is easy to maintain. Any advise you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video very knowledgeable.
I did a series on salt pools and my honest opinion is after working with salt systems for over a decade I'm not a fan. Two main reasons, the salt used for pools is chemically derived and not natural so it's exchanging one man made or chemically altered chemical for another and I have found that for the money the salt systems are simply not worth it.
@@PoolSchooler thank you for the quick reply.
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My pool is 15000 kidney shape 3feet at the low end and 6deep end … my CYA reads 150-300 , can I drain 1/2 and refill and to bring cya Down instead of ful drain and refill?
150-300 is a pretty large range. Typically you could narrow it down to closer to the 150 or 300 side. If it's closer to the 150 you should be fine until the summer's over then in the fall you can drain and refill the pool with less risk of harming your surface. JUST make sure you don't over dose your pool with CYA
Is it bad to fill up the tablet floater with chlorine tablets? Would it be better to do 1-2 tablets?
Not at all. Add as many as you need to keep your chlorine levels up in the ideal range between 1-5 ppm.
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Great video, one concern I have is that I’m not sure if my water source is suitable for re filling the swimming pool. It’s a well and not a super deep one so a lot of rust like minerals. Is it possible I need to have water delivered or can the chemistry be properly balanced despite the water not being the greatest. What do you suggest?
In a situation like yours it is probably best to have water delivered. I know a few friends in other states that have to have that done as well.
I'm starting up my first salt water pool. Is the chemical start up the same or is there a difference? Please advise
It's the same with the exception, of course, of having to add pool salt. Your pools supply store should be able to tell and sell you the amount you need for your size pool.
@@PoolSchooler when do you add the salt and do you still add the liquid chlorine ?
dax mark you probably wouldn’t need to use the liquid chlorine with a salt pool. Usually you add the salt immediately to get your salinity up to the proper levels as you are adjusting pH and alkalinity and cyanuric acid. Occasionally you could as a start up throw a gallon of liquid chlorine in to give you a little wiggle room to allow time for the salt to dissolve and the salt generator to do its job.
How important is it to add the cya ? Dont have any an need to start my hotels pool up ASAP???
CYA helps the pool hold chlorine. Without it you'll burn through a lot more chlorine. It is possible to start up a pool without it, just know that you'll burn through a lot more chlorine and should get some ASAP.
@@PoolSchooler ok thanks
Thank you very much for the helpful information. Very informative
EpicChubs05 you are most welcome.
Would the chemicals measurements be the same for a 6000 gallon above ground pool
They may be slightly less as far as amounts because a typical play pool is between 10k and 12k gallons.
It's safe to put 1 lb of Cyanuric Acid in the skimmer while the system running?(concentration in just one place in the skimmer)? What's happen if someone at home accidently opens the skimmer during that time?
You would want to make sure someone doesn't. Just like you would have make sure someone wouldn't open a chlorine tablet floater and mess with the tablets inside.
Hello i have a 12x24 intex ultra pool, it holds 8400 gallons of water does this apply
It does indeed.
@@PoolSchooler could you give me the correct amounts needed for my pool?
@@PoolSchooler im not talking the amount to add to the pool, im mean the amount to purchase, TIA.
@@Mz_Kia79 Typically it's what's available at your local pool supply store. And the choice of how much depends on how much you want to have available and how often you want to have to buy more.
My total chlorine is always is always bottomed out but my free chlorine stays pretty level. I keep the PH balanced and use shock granules weekly and chlorine tabs as well. I can figure out how its always low.
Your total chlorine is the sum total of free chlorine and combined chlorine.
Is your CYA level high or low?
I jut bought a 6,021 gal. above ground pool with a sand filter. Are the proportions you say to add all around the same or do i need to do calculations for the capacity of my pool?
Congratulations on your above ground pool. I’m pretty sure I know the type it’s probably similar to the one that we used to have which is actually in one of the first videos I did called “getting to know your pool“ or understanding your pool. With regards to amounts. Because I stayed in the video that you should add them in small amounts I.e.: 1 quart of acid at a time or 1 pound of CYA at a time, you should be fine. Just remember to test every couple hours after adding chemicals so you don’t overdo any other chemicals. Especially the cyanuric acid
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Hi, Kenny - is some form of algaecide necessary at any point? Thanks!
Not if you get your phosphates down, have a clean filter and proper pool chemistry. You may want to add some trichlor granules to help kill off any visible algae, BUT I DON'T USE NOR RECOMMEND ALGAECIDES EVER. I think I say why in this video.
Question: so i add the CYA and then unstablized Cl to start. After the initial start up, do I need to continue using unstablized Cl or can I switch to tablets? I don't want to end up with too much CYA. Hopefully that makes sense!
For convenience you can switch to tablets that’s pretty much the industry standard for pool service people in Arizona
@@PoolSchooler thanks so much!