Rosewood vs Maple - Tonewood Blindfold Challenge!

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  • @IanOPadrick
    @IanOPadrick 5 років тому +570

    I'm team whatever-makes-the-guitar-looks-cooler.

    • @topografer
      @topografer 3 роки тому +16

      I think fender is in that team too lolz

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 3 роки тому +28

      I’m in team whatever is cheaper

    • @apexvwarrior8082
      @apexvwarrior8082 3 роки тому +1

      No one said SOUND cooler lol. Idc what a guitar looks like so long as it sounds epic

    • @IanOPadrick
      @IanOPadrick 3 роки тому +19

      @@apexvwarrior8082 In a perfect world, I'd be in that camp, but the optics of a guitar effect the way I think about the instrument, and therefor how I play on it. And tone is in the fingers. So the optics of the guitar really effect how I play on it, more than the tone wood. But that's in my particular case, everyone is different.

    • @spacejazz6272
      @spacejazz6272 3 роки тому +6

      so team maple then? ;)

  • @chug5362
    @chug5362 4 роки тому +157

    Lee: *Plays acoustically*
    Rob: "So surely the objective is to know if you can tell through an amplifier"
    Rob in another video: *Sniffs guitar*

    • @n0v012
      @n0v012 Рік тому

      Lmao

    • @bthellam
      @bthellam 10 місяців тому +2

      I actually like hearing solid body guitars acoustically. You can really tell the differences between them without an amp quite often. One example on my end is my Les Paul Custom and SG. I don't need an amp to hear how much more midsy the SG is!

    • @disturbed157
      @disturbed157 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@bthellamGary Moore said that's the only way to know if it's worth buying. Strum it acoustically and if it sustains then it's gold.

  • @Kris_T_
    @Kris_T_ 5 років тому +581

    3 GUITAR CHALLENGE Best Copy, Worst Copy, Real Thing. One person picks a guitar, Say a Fender Strat, then searches the store for the most & lest expensive non Fender 'Strat type' guitars. The challenge is for the blindfolded person to work out which is the 'good copy' & which is the Original. Cheapo's there for comedy contrast ;)

    • @drawwithbeektor6329
      @drawwithbeektor6329 5 років тому +5

      I’d watch it. Lol

    • @EzyoMusic
      @EzyoMusic 5 років тому +9

      Shut up and take my view and like.

    • @jerryx2000
      @jerryx2000 5 років тому +8

      they wont do it as it is bad for their business ;-) They are salesmen!

    • @Kris_T_
      @Kris_T_ 5 років тому

      And the plectrum rieview video was 'good for business' was it? Increased plectrum sales did it? Sometimes you just gotta do things for laughs.

    • @clintbeeler5069
      @clintbeeler5069 5 років тому

      Yes

  • @mickm8028
    @mickm8028 5 років тому +629

    You can tell if it's lacquered on the board, maple is , rosewood is not. So someone else should have played while the captain or rob guessed.

    • @chuckyinges
      @chuckyinges 5 років тому +63

      I know right? The lacquer is dead giveaway.

    • @definitelynotgore
      @definitelynotgore 5 років тому +57

      *IF* it’s lacquered, not all maple boards are lacquered.

    • @Thirsty_Fox
      @Thirsty_Fox 5 років тому +14

      You can see that the dark red one has a lacquered maple fretboard at 10:20 (lights reflecting on higher frets).

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 5 років тому +2

      So they cheated? Not.

    • @MaggaraMarine
      @MaggaraMarine 5 років тому +26

      Who cares? It wasn't a truly scientific experiment any way. It was just a fun blindfold challenge.

  • @iamzangetsu87
    @iamzangetsu87 3 роки тому +24

    3 years later, nobody is has still performed an exorcism on that cup teleporting around

  • @shadowz8926
    @shadowz8926 5 років тому +187

    I just want to say, because I haven't always seen it mentioned, kudos to the team doing support in the background on all the blindfold episodes. I appreciate that it can be hard to not react in the usual way with all the back and forth when filming episodes like these, so as to not give away significant details. Good job!

    • @scriptosaurusrex
      @scriptosaurusrex 5 років тому +1

      Wait, so Pete whispering in Chappers ear - clearly saying the word 'rosewood' on the third guitar wasn't part of it all? :'D

  • @lewisbeeman
    @lewisbeeman 4 роки тому +30

    I absolutely love the editing that is done in these. The coffee cup was comedic genius.

  • @johncochran88
    @johncochran88 5 років тому +58

    I dont hear a difference with most of these test I just enjoy watching these videos lol

    • @HumansFreshlyBorn
      @HumansFreshlyBorn 3 роки тому +7

      Same. I just prefer whichever looks nicer with the other colors on the instrument

    • @KAIOabstrct
      @KAIOabstrct 3 роки тому

      Even with headphones on there is a massive difference in what you'll hear live vs the recorded interpetation of the sound.

  • @lilee45
    @lilee45 5 років тому +184

    What the hell is with the dancing mug at 4:20?

    • @harrysteeletreo1
      @harrysteeletreo1 5 років тому +19

      just seeing if you were paying attention....

    • @Hennu_TRM
      @Hennu_TRM 5 років тому +18

      Idk man there are a lot of weird little things edited into these videos though...

    • @rafitalover
      @rafitalover 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, I was about to say the same.

    • @MountainsideMusic
      @MountainsideMusic 5 років тому +11

      I love the little odd tidbits they edit for absolutely no reason haha. I think the mug was slightly out of shot, so they edited it in.

    • @thescottiedu8446
      @thescottiedu8446 4 роки тому

      Lee White They edited it onto the coaster haha.

  • @christiaanvrey
    @christiaanvrey 4 роки тому +18

    the moving cup editing while the people where moving was crazy

  • @rafalvarezsevilla
    @rafalvarezsevilla 3 роки тому +36

    2:48 Maple Acoustic
    2:56 Maple Neck
    3:03 Maple Bridge
    3:28 Maple Bridge Clean
    3:39 Maple Neck Clean
    3:55 Maple Acoustic
    4:07 Maple Neck
    5:00 Maple Bridge
    5:11 Maple Neck
    5:32 Maple Acoustic
    5:43 Maple Neck then Bridge
    6:14 Rosewood Bridge
    6:33 Rosewood Neck
    6:54 Rosewood Acoustic
    7:07 Rosewood Neck
    7:15 Rosewood Bridge
    7:21 Rosewood Neck
    7:45 Rosewood Neck
    8:04 Rosewood Bridge
    8:17 Rosewood Acoustic
    9:00 Rosewood Neck
    9:42 Rosewood Acoustic Chord
    9:55 Rosewood Acoustic Lead
    10:18 Maple Acoustic Chord
    10:21 Maple Acoustic Lead

  • @john564holloway
    @john564holloway 5 років тому

    I love these comparisons videos! Don't worry about what others post. Have fun chaps!

  • @darkinertia2
    @darkinertia2 5 років тому +121

    The real title of the video " touching maple vs rosewood blindfold challenge"

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 5 років тому +131

    Here for the rage, I saw Tonewood in the title...

  • @josethealvarez
    @josethealvarez 5 років тому

    Love the creativity on this one lads! As soon as i saw the title i was like, can't wait to see what shenanigans this is gonna bring on!

  • @UniversityOfMunich
    @UniversityOfMunich 4 роки тому +2

    That grey strat with rosewood board is GORGEOUS

  • @ky9999
    @ky9999 5 років тому +64

    (grabs popcorn)

  • @trollfiddler
    @trollfiddler 5 років тому +18

    Agree with a comment below. Rosewood always feels granular under your fingers when you bend the strings. Also, Lee wanted to play acoustically but the argument is always about whether wood affects an electric sound as Rob said.

    • @damendobrilovic3815
      @damendobrilovic3815 3 роки тому

      I'm sure his thinking was that if there was any difference at all acoustically, then theoretically there should be a difference when it's amplified. Whether or not that difference is significant enough to warrant one sounding "better" than the other is completely subjective.

    • @seblar9315
      @seblar9315 3 роки тому

      @@damendobrilovic3815 But just because its different acoustically doesnt mean it will be different when its amplified. Doesnt work that way. Maybe more sustain but not different texture of tone! = ) Your guitar sound different when you stick your neck against the wall, but wont sound different in a recording.

  • @leascaart
    @leascaart 3 роки тому

    THIS IS VERY FUNNY and HIGHLY ENTERTAINING!!! Thank you, lads!!

  • @grabbaloni
    @grabbaloni 5 років тому

    Gents, thanks very much for continuing with these blindfold challenges, i always enjoy them, regardless or their scientific merit!

  • @julietp.5877
    @julietp.5877 5 років тому +219

    You know the story, right? Leo Fender originally didn't use separate fingerboards. The frets were installed on the maple neck - hence the skunk stripe since the truss rod had to be installed from underneath. When he saw how grungy the well used maple "boards" were becoming, he didn't like it and switched to a separate rosewood fingerboard where the "finger gunk" wouldn't show. So we have three variants - fretted maple necks, separate rosewood fingerboards and separate maple fingerboards. What did you have? Fretted neck or separate board?

    • @gerryjamesedwards1227
      @gerryjamesedwards1227 5 років тому +3

      My 2002 MiM has a fretted maple neck, you can follow the grain around(and it looks gorgeous), and it has the skunk strip. This is the first I've heard of this, but it makes sense when you see the old nitro fingerboards. So if Leo Fender had had polyurethane available when he started we'd probably still have fretted maple one-piece necks on the whole range? The fingerboard finish on mine is immaculate, although I think that it has spent most of its life in a closet.

    • @gerryjamesedwards1227
      @gerryjamesedwards1227 5 років тому +1

      You want to buy it because of a quick description of the neck?? I haven't got a clue. It's getting its cavity shielded and electronics looked at, at the moment. I hadn't considered selling it, I just was so pleased to get such a nice playing guitar with a fat 50's style neck. There are quite a few examples of MiM strats on Ebay for what I got this for, and it's worth more to me than I paid for it.

    • @GravyHucker
      @GravyHucker 5 років тому +8

      Funny how the Skunk Stripe has become such an iconic part of the Neck, and it was really a "Band-Aid" just out of necessity! Cool story, thanks for sharing!

    • @bellumfacere3116
      @bellumfacere3116 5 років тому +4

      Juliet P. Not only that, rosewood fingerboards had two versions, one thicker than the other

    • @PicksPaints
      @PicksPaints 5 років тому +6

      +Bellumfacere the 2 versions you speak of are the laminate and slab boards. In the first iteration (pre-1962) they were using slab boards (flat milled rosewood board glued on flat milled neck then radiused), but due to the glue they were using at the time, they were experiencing the fretboards coming unglued from the necks. In 1962, Leo then changed to the laminate boards (L series), where they laminated a thin "veneers" of rosewood over an already radiused maple neck. Thus resolving the issue of the slab board de-laminating from the neck.

  • @EpictheEpicest
    @EpictheEpicest 5 років тому +92

    I'd like to point out that there's a variable here which makes this test invalid: It is very easy to tell Maple from Rosewood based on feel. Because they are feeling the fretboard, that is informing their bias and is why they generally get them right. If Rob played and then Lee guessed, and then Lee played a different guitar and Rob guessed, they could have removed that variable from the equation

    • @gabagoogooblancmange7408
      @gabagoogooblancmange7408 5 років тому

      EpictheEpicest WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE

    • @12x2richter
      @12x2richter 5 років тому +1

      But Chappers never touches the fretboard, just the strings (he mentions it in the video where they modify a guitar to have a scalloped neck) and he's the one that got them all right.

    • @valueofnothing2487
      @valueofnothing2487 4 роки тому +1

      @@12x2richter He said one 'felt' like the other one. He's obviously feeling them.

    • @emzee1148
      @emzee1148 4 роки тому +2

      Feel is 90% of an instrument.

    • @getshwiftygaming447
      @getshwiftygaming447 11 місяців тому

      That's not really a variable, I promise you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you were blindfolded and just feeling a guitar. Just like nobody can actually tell a difference between pick up brands in a high gain situation.

  • @MCM686
    @MCM686 5 років тому

    These two are always fun to watch.

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn 5 років тому +2

    Great stuff! I used to prefer rosewood because I don't like the glossy stuff that maple fretboards were typically lathered in, however I now have a satin maple fret board (on my tele) and I love it!

  • @djt6546
    @djt6546 5 років тому +3

    Sometimes a shop has a small selection of identical guitars & the customer gets to play each & pick the one they prefer. I’ve been lucky enough to do this with a few guitar purchases & sometimes there is a difference in sound like those debated over maple vs rosewood. So my point is despite what materials are used, each guitar can be unique regardless of any general rule of thumb you might believe in regarding choice of materials. The final build & setup can effect just as much and more due to so many variables. If you can, just try different guitars when making a new purchase. It’s fun & you get satisfaction that you really made a personal choice. If like me you believe a guitar is greater than the sum of it’s parts, then you will get where I am coming from.

  • @cwehden
    @cwehden 5 років тому +85

    need to do a blind sound test without touching the guitars, any fool can feel the difference between rosewood and maple by touching the neck...

    • @deans.4705
      @deans.4705 3 роки тому +4

      agreed. the rosewood would feel like rosewood. the person not playing should be doing the only guessing.

    • @strat1080
      @strat1080 2 роки тому

      And when playing

  • @budgetguitaristcom
    @budgetguitaristcom 5 років тому

    Entertaining as always!

  • @rasmusbilow615
    @rasmusbilow615 5 років тому

    Your edits are gold x'DD

  • @elcap420
    @elcap420 4 роки тому +11

    For a luthiers perspective, I would love to see this challenge done on acoustic guitars with either Rosewood or Ebony fingerboards.
    One of the expected difference is not as much tone but the attack, sustain and percussive nature of the two woods.

  • @Wormweed
    @Wormweed 5 років тому +6

    Maple fretboards look so much better! Love them. I don't think or care about sound difference, i just love the way maple looks. Too many variables to determine a sound difference. I don't think there is any difference in sound if both wood types have the same density, shape and size.

  • @lewisbeeman
    @lewisbeeman 4 роки тому

    The editing in these videos are one of my favorite parts.

  • @OGConeHead
    @OGConeHead 5 років тому +1

    As always the editing is top notch. Love the moving mug! Lol

    • @rootbeer666
      @rootbeer666 Рік тому

      I'm positive it's there as a gag.

  • @artamussumatra6286
    @artamussumatra6286 4 роки тому +5

    Team Rosewood! Sound wise, I don’t notice much, if any difference. Feel, eh, maybe a little, but not enough to get exited about. It’s really about the looks. Imho, rosewood always looks great with any color guitar, but maple has to be tinted just right - it’s often too pale, or way too tinted.
    I do really like 3 tone sunburst with a black pickguard, and a nice medium tint maple fingerboard tho. 😉

  • @jw.2507
    @jw.2507 5 років тому +5

    I know this is random folks (I've been watching Andertons for 8 years) but what watch is Lee wearing? Rolex Explorer? Tudor BB? Anyone know? Gracias

  • @fatsuperfly
    @fatsuperfly 5 років тому

    Holy moly!!!! The vid quality is amazing! New camera?

  • @TwilightZone13
    @TwilightZone13 5 років тому

    Can’t get enough of the blindfold videos

  • @darktempest53
    @darktempest53 5 років тому +65

    Blindfold test: exists
    Lee: I can read the comment section already

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому +1

      QED blindfold tests are invalid since Cap10 is psychic.
      Good work ion 53.
      But...Cap10 knew you were going to say that.
      Cue the Twilight Zone music!

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 4 роки тому +1

      pd4165 somehow it extremely annoys me, that you write Captain as Cap10.
      That’s even worse than the people writing 7ender.

    • @demoleramera
      @demoleramera 4 роки тому

      @@rolux4853 I believe CAP-10 is the name of his signature Chapman Guitar model (not to suggest that'll makes you less annoyed ofc). 7ender on the other hand is just unexcusable. Makes me think of the Reverse Flying V and that's NOT something I want to cross my mind again, ever

  • @greenmarth5570
    @greenmarth5570 5 років тому +4

    4:19 the coffee cup lol

  • @nicksburson1
    @nicksburson1 5 років тому

    love this challenge

  • @charvelmodel2
    @charvelmodel2 5 років тому

    Keep the videos up! There will always be haters but just remember the are watching your videos which is making you $$$. Love watching you guys!

  • @davepocock3055
    @davepocock3055 4 роки тому +3

    daft question….. why dont we see maple boards on acoustics ??

    • @mickavoidant4780
      @mickavoidant4780 2 роки тому

      Not daft at all. There are acoustics with maple boards but not as many as rosewood. Some folk talk about brightness or maple being less hardwearing. Others put it down to tradition.

  • @ShootNeutrality
    @ShootNeutrality 5 років тому +8

    I've played a ton of strats and I can't hear the difference between rosewood and maple. That said, I prefer maple but for feel reasons alone.

  • @mpalin11
    @mpalin11 3 роки тому

    I could watch these guys all day long 😃

  • @nothingEvil101
    @nothingEvil101 5 років тому

    That green one is beautiful!

  • @benzakonium
    @benzakonium 5 років тому +13

    Blindfold Challenge Idea: Supermarket Sweep at Anderstons. Rob and the Captain have 5 min each to run through the store and put a rig together. They have to pick up the gear and get it to the cashier before the time runs out. They then have to play and see who got the best rig.

  • @srvthesheep4682
    @srvthesheep4682 5 років тому +45

    but they would be able to feel it anyway right?

    • @vjau75
      @vjau75 5 років тому +13

      Especially with the tumb over like they both suddenly do....

    • @LeDechaine
      @LeDechaine 5 років тому +5

      Yeah that was a useless blindfold...

    • @Voe0123
      @Voe0123 5 років тому +7

      Easy feel the join with your thumb! Chappers cheats on every blindfold challenge

    • @JRapids
      @JRapids 5 років тому +1

      Both maple and rosewood are glued to the neck.

    • @pbague
      @pbague 5 років тому +1

      vjau75 they always did that, but ye, it’s dumb

  • @mitchilito99
    @mitchilito99 3 роки тому

    As humorous and off the cuff this was, it was very informative. Thanks, boys!

  • @arthurfunkarelli
    @arthurfunkarelli 5 років тому

    Thanks, guys. I love your channel. Always entertaining.

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem 5 років тому +16

    Lee's playing that G chord. I like that G chord.

  • @bryanchan420
    @bryanchan420 4 роки тому +6

    some one need to say this, TONE is in Pickups...not the wood

  • @gyrospace2
    @gyrospace2 5 років тому

    Great video. Great explanation Rob. You guys enjoy your job so you never work a day in your life! Awesome job!

  • @Messier31NGC224
    @Messier31NGC224 5 років тому

    Yeaaaa mate, another Chappers & Capt. video!!!!

  • @Danilixo10
    @Danilixo10 5 років тому +6

    4:14 most amount of suspense in my life

    • @RobS-dy5xm
      @RobS-dy5xm 5 років тому

      Same. But Chappers pulled through. The suspense also increased the laugh when it started hopping around a few seconds later.

  • @danielgr.4371
    @danielgr.4371 5 років тому +3

    New challenge idea
    Covered VS. Uncovered Pickups

    • @ithemba
      @ithemba 4 роки тому +1

      Better yet: metric vs imperial measurements of the pots and Jack's. It's well established that only imperial measurements are true tone-measurements, because they resonate more naturally with the frequencies!

  • @piggy201
    @piggy201 5 років тому

    1) How does the fingerboard material effect the sound when the string is vibrating and being picked up between the fret and the bridge?
    2) Arent maple fingerboards covered in layer of lacquer? Wouldnt that have an effect on how it effects the string?

  • @gloriagloria9551
    @gloriagloria9551 5 років тому +1

    Love Pete’s Carter Vintage Guitars shirt! Best guitar store in Nashville imo

  • @minethulhufhtagn7239
    @minethulhufhtagn7239 5 років тому +3

    At first I was impressed with how well Rob did and started to think that maybe there really is something to the tones from the fretboard, then I watched the solid / semi-hollow / hollow comparison. For that video I realized Rob doesn't use just tones to make his choice, he is using things like type of pickup and likely body style, type of guitars he knows they have, etc. to decide. That defeats the test. As has been pointed out in other posts, the "listeners" should not have been allowed to handle the instruments as that potentially gives them another data point that has nothing to do with the tone. Further, unless you want to increase the sample size, the listeners shouldn't know how many of each are in the test, otherwise things like what Lee did just assigning guesses based on previous guesses can happen. Finally, they should not have been allowed to play the thing acoustically as that defeats the tone "pickup only vs wood" argument for electrics (and you aren't going to play them acoustically other than goofing around).
    NOTE: I'm not saying I don't or do believe in tone from the wood in electric guitars, I just don't have enough personal experience nor hard data to say one way or the other.

    • @stefan.avramov
      @stefan.avramov 4 роки тому +1

      you should be able to play it, sound comes from the player too and you should know what you did and how the guitar reacted to it

  • @likeanuuk6612
    @likeanuuk6612 5 років тому +57

    the chappers playing single coils is a rare fascinating sight

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому +2

      He's got plenty of singlecoils (I'm going to take a flying guess at 20%) in his collection but he definitely favours buckers.
      Perhaps RC will come along to enlighten us.

    •  5 років тому +1

      Not to forget that Chapman ML-3 is complete single coil guitar in itself which he often uses..

    • @randy4903
      @randy4903 5 років тому +3

      Rob is also a big Telecaster fan, isn't he?

  • @omrikladar-benstine819
    @omrikladar-benstine819 5 років тому

    One of the finest guitars I've had the pleasure of playing had a Pau Ferro fretboard, but it didn't rub me much differently than a good rosewood board does, just slightly lighter color

  • @funmat2
    @funmat2 5 років тому

    Awsome idea!!! 😀🤘 I kinda need a blindfold challenge with differend neck finishes!! 😀 I need that, just finished my selfbuild guitar, and have to choose one of the days.. 🤔

  • @agastyeet8362
    @agastyeet8362 5 років тому +3

    4:20
    Look at the mug on the left xD

  • @aidan04
    @aidan04 5 років тому +4

    Look at the cup on chappers table 4:22

    • @jessielees
      @jessielees 5 років тому +1

      nice catch. they always do something fun with the cups but i didnt even see this one until your comment

  • @cesararias4633
    @cesararias4633 5 років тому

    You guys have no idea how long I´ve been waiting for this video! Let´s see what will the results of this challenge be!!!
    Much love from Barcelona!!!

  • @xMERKaDERKx
    @xMERKaDERKx 2 роки тому

    I was watching the coffee cup waiting for it fall and then I thought I was having a stroke. The editor of this video is amazing

  • @Hennu_TRM
    @Hennu_TRM 5 років тому +13

    I prefer maple, only for the look. I don't think the tonal differences are really significant. At least I can't tell...

  • @99Chrissey99
    @99Chrissey99 5 років тому +3

    I thought the new fenders always have pau ferro fretboards

  • @guitarded2524
    @guitarded2524 5 років тому

    You guys should do a review of the little bugera vintage 5 watt tube combo! Maybe with a few pedals or something to test just how far it can go. I've seen other reviews but I trust you guys's judgment over all

  • @dash4786
    @dash4786 5 років тому

    Screw the comment section!!! You guys are doing perfectly fine with the videos that you put out. Whatever you find to be a interesting video do it! I come home from work, sit down in my dirty clothes at the table eat a nice meal and watch your videos. I'm happy as can be.

  • @ZsoltSapi1
    @ZsoltSapi1 5 років тому +3

    "Mine says Claptain."

  • @MisterTee
    @MisterTee 5 років тому +211

    This seems to be one of the least interesting blindfold challenges as you don’t need to see to feel the difference. It should be Pete playing and Rob and Lee listening.

    • @scorned2384
      @scorned2384 5 років тому +21

      Impossible. They wouldn't be able to tell a broom with a string tied to it from a Fender if Pete is the one playing. :)

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 5 років тому +5

      Scorned that’s kind of the point, you can’t hear a difference. I think allowing them to play acoustically kills the whole concept. We know wood has an effect acoustically.

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 5 років тому +7

      Russell ward And if it has an effect acoustically (which is the sound made by the strings vibrating) how does it not have some effect when amplified? After all the pickups are picking up the way the string are vibrating... it’s what they do. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 5 років тому +7

      Mark Seymour And where do you think that voltage comes from? The relative movement of the strings compared to the magnet of the pickups. Where do you think the acoustic sound of the guitar comes from? The movement of the strings. If you can hear a marked difference acoustically (I’m not the one who said you can or not, I was addressing the point others made that in their view there is a notable acoustic difference) then this implies strings vibrating differently which then means the pickups will sense this difference (because this difference comes mainly from the strings vibrating differently).
      These differences become less noticeable through amplification because there are so many steps in the signal chain, which is Chappers’ point about becoming difficult/impossible to tell a subtle difference like fingerboard wood with a signal with gain, but this doesn’t mean the differences aren’t picked up by the pickups.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 5 років тому

      David Burke but we’re talking about what we can hear not is there some minute bit that a pickup can pick up. There may be some mathematical difference but that’s not particularly important if we can’t discern a difference with our ears.

  • @Hatari2
    @Hatari2 4 роки тому +2

    It depends on what the body looks like certain body's just go with certain necks so, I like both rosewood and maple.

  • @estebangorjon8975
    @estebangorjon8975 5 років тому

    That tape echo in the background has my total and complete atenttion

  • @Spikeupine
    @Spikeupine 5 років тому +35

    Maple for Tele and Strat, Rosewood for most everything else

    • @saarangnarayan123
      @saarangnarayan123 5 років тому

      This deserves more attention.

    • @malungtvnews
      @malungtvnews 5 років тому

      I was waiting for someone to say that I agree totally, I like Fenders with Maple for some reason and I can hear the difference when they play in the video

    • @LilSirAxolotl
      @LilSirAxolotl 5 років тому +1

      The way I read that is maple for single coils and rosewood for humbuckers

    • @JoseHenrique-xg1lp
      @JoseHenrique-xg1lp 5 років тому +5

      Super strats deserve Ebony

    • @aryoadhitomo
      @aryoadhitomo 5 років тому +1

      Or mapple for single coils and rosewood for humbuckers

  • @anvandare71
    @anvandare71 5 років тому +4

    My suggestion is that you test guitars with different scale lengths. You pair the guitars up, one with a shorter neck and one with a longer neck. Use the same tuning on both of the guitars in each pair. You even change to thicker strings on the shorter neck guitars if needed to match the tuning on the longer neck guitar to avoid floppy strings. Try and pick guitars with similar pick ups within each pair. The Captain and Chappers then has to guess which of the guitars in each pair has the shorter and longer scale length. Of course they don’t get to play the guitars themselves, Bea takes care of that.

  • @DeathPandaDanceParty
    @DeathPandaDanceParty 5 років тому

    Fingerboard done now for different body and different neck tonewood blindfold challenges please!

  • @andrewsmith1520
    @andrewsmith1520 5 років тому

    Is there any chance you could feel the difference between the finished maple and unfinished rosewood? I've never done a blindfold test between, so I don't know how obvious the feel is when you can't see it.

  • @anthonyprice5596
    @anthonyprice5596 5 років тому +6

    Why arnt fretboards made from African Blackwood or cocobolo?

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому +3

      Some are - bass players tend to get more choice because they're not as conservative as guitarists. And now that CITES is intervening we'll probably see a lot more 'alternative' woods used.

    • @clamus68
      @clamus68 5 років тому

      True cocobolo wood has some serious issues. In the working of it, there is some toxicity to it. Look it up.

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому

      Issues - oily, therefore hard to glue. Will take glue if the surface is clean. Oil may cause allergic reaction, especially if inhaled, (eg when sanding) but only an idiot sands anything without dust protection.
      Uses - many.
      Close grain is good for inlays and it's a good choice for woodwind instruments. Also used for gun stocks, handles and guitar style instruments, especially for fretboards (because an entire guitar would be seriously heavy).
      Definitely a lot easier than carbon fibre. Or aluminium (hello - Europe calling).

    • @anthonyprice5596
      @anthonyprice5596 5 років тому

      @@pd4165 what about carbon fibre?? That might be cool.

    • @malungtvnews
      @malungtvnews 5 років тому

      there is a version of blackwood which is coming in as a rosewood replacement I was offered it on a kit the other day

  • @DavidRavenMoon
    @DavidRavenMoon 4 роки тому +3

    Rob, you’re exactly right on why different woods sound a bit different. It’s the loss coefficient (and Young’s modulus of elasticity) at play. And a material will absorb energy at its resonant frequency (and harmonics) producing a notch effect. Combining materials changes that a bit.

  • @tombain5665
    @tombain5665 4 роки тому +1

    I had the advantage I could see the guitars you both couldn't. I have two Fenders Strat and a Tele. For what it is worth I agree with you both on the subtle perceived tonal differences. I agree exactly with the Captains comments on slippy neck and easier vibrato on the maple. I guess thats why youre the Captain! But I seem to get a "feeling" of more controllable vibrato with Rosewood. Both are great necks with inspiration to be found in both because of their subtle differences. Great video and nobody should really get angry about your honest endeavours. Cheers

  • @t-tone5560
    @t-tone5560 5 років тому

    I've always had rosewood necks because I borrowed a Tele with a maple neck and it was like a neck made from boiled sweets. I like the look of them though.

  • @niclastname
    @niclastname 5 років тому +14

    I'm not team rosewood, nor maple. I'm team ebony!
    I don't know why, but maple and rosewood have a "cheap" look to me. That was ingrained in me by all of the cheap guitars I've played having those 2, and ebony only being on higher end ones (along with the other two). So now in my brain, ebony just looks nicer/classier/higher end/cleaner/better.

    • @vanargrand3199
      @vanargrand3199 5 років тому

      This is the exact reason why I don't care for rosewood fingerboards. Couldn't have said it better.

  • @michaelcosta7235
    @michaelcosta7235 5 років тому +17

    You know why Lee wants to play them acoustically to determine the difference? Because wood doesn't affect magnets.

    • @ChrisPBacon3000
      @ChrisPBacon3000 5 років тому +1

      Exactly.

    • @markuskoivisto
      @markuskoivisto 5 років тому +4

      Magnets amplify existing vibrations. The entire system impacts the vibrations. The mass of the wood matters, as does the type of wood.
      Johan Segeborn has done these experiments better. If you watch those and still think wood doesn’t matter, I don’t really know know what to tell you. At that point it’s just denial.

    • @michaelcosta7235
      @michaelcosta7235 5 років тому +2

      That is not even how magnets work, please educate yourself by taking an actual physics course. Pickups create a magnetic field the metal strings oscillate through them and disrupt the field, instantly, and those disruptions are instantly sent to the amp.

    • @cullendelmore2614
      @cullendelmore2614 5 років тому +4

      @@michaelcosta7235 That's not even how electromagnetism works. Please educate yourself by taking an actual physics course. The current induced in the pickup winding by the string's vibration needs time to propagate, and therefore is not instant, nor is the actual propagation of the disturbance of the magnetic field on the way to the pickup. I mean, that's completely pedantic and utterly irrelevant, but I win the argument now, right?

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 5 років тому +1

      The fretboard wood matters a tiny smidge, yes.
      But the type of fretboard wood matters very very little vs. the sealing or laquering of it's surface - this is what alters the intial transient ('attack') characteristic of the note. Going from note to note on the sealed maple produces less friction or deformation of the fingertip vs. rosewood since there is no grain to dig into; less 'drag'. The resultant sound of the laquered fretboard therefore has a quicker 'snap-back' from the initial transient as it settles into sustain.
      So it's no wonder that scalloping is by far most common on maple-fretboard Strats, as the lacquering glides under the fingers like nothing else. Under spectrum analysis any difference in the *sustained portion* of the note is sonically infinitesimal between the two types of wood used, or even whether it's lacquered(!). This is because sustain depends almost entirely on the total mass and coupling/construction of the guitar; the species of wood amounts to effectively nothing but eye candy as the note rings out.
      It always helps to know what *in fact* is contributing to sound and WHY.... vs. whatever else can be regarded as aesthetic benefit. Not to say psychology doesn't affect how I play - it suuure does - and it also affects how much I am willing to spend. Looks matter, too :o)

  • @kyleshultz6920
    @kyleshultz6920 3 роки тому

    Whats up with chappers cup going crazy and warping back and forth after he takes a drink. Trippy

  • @dodgecukc
    @dodgecukc 5 років тому

    Love Teles with a Rosewood board as it takes some of that shrillness off, or does it? Maybe I just prefer the feel.

  • @thechannelforeverything2170
    @thechannelforeverything2170 5 років тому +10

    Should’ve thrown in Pao Ferro in the mix

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 5 років тому +1

      The channel for everything Nice idea, but they were trying to make it scientific and use what is otherwise exactly the same model. There isn’t a maple/rosewood/pao ferro set of options within any single range on the Fender catalogue anymore so they’d have to have mixed the guitar models and therefore additional specs as well, thereby muddying the tonal comparison much more.

    • @JamesAllenJr
      @JamesAllenJr 5 років тому

      Ebony

    • @slappop7082
      @slappop7082 5 років тому

      "Scientific". LOL

  • @JDODify
    @JDODify 5 років тому +95

    I'm an ebony guy!

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому +10

      Photo with today's paper or it's not true.

    • @RageForSeven
      @RageForSeven 5 років тому +40

      we all know that once you go black you never go back!!

    • @bambostarla6259
      @bambostarla6259 5 років тому +11

      Talking bout girls amma right ?

    • @RageForSeven
      @RageForSeven 5 років тому

      i have heard it from both sexes..so somehow it must be true :-)

    • @batmandeltaforce
      @batmandeltaforce 5 років тому +3

      Xactly. Maple seems to kill sustain... somehow, or maybe it is just so bright and snappy. I can live with rosewood, but maple is an effect for certain situations:)

  • @mrbigg7255
    @mrbigg7255 5 років тому

    Excellent video. I like Rob’s explaining of how the Rosewood is absorbing some of the higher frequencies. Never thought about it that way before.

  • @GGRetroRally
    @GGRetroRally 5 років тому

    I like rosewood boards... i find every maple ones i've tried to feel "sticky". The only excpetion was a Peavey Wolfgang EVH i had as the neck was un finished, and that was great.

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 5 років тому +22

    Not impressed. They should have cut the experiment in two. One hearing (not acoustically) and later on just playing.
    Feeling the fretboard gives awat a lot.

    • @SlowDownImWhite
      @SlowDownImWhite 5 років тому +6

      The point is for YOU to do it yourself, this is just an exercise in a video for fun. I'm not impressed by your comment.

    • @goddessintriptych7046
      @goddessintriptych7046 5 років тому +1

      "It's just for fun." Meanwhile, throughout the comment section: "THIS PROVES TONEWOOD"

  • @MHSlypher1
    @MHSlypher1 5 років тому +10

    Maple and Rosewood totally feel different while playing though

  • @marcus6872
    @marcus6872 5 років тому

    I love Ebony myself...I don't really have a good reason other than my favorite guitar I have has an Ebony fret board and it plays, sounds and looks amazing, all black no fret markers.

  • @pAtTs024
    @pAtTs024 5 років тому

    can you do also test which sounds better. left hand or right handed guitars. 😊

  • @Hoscitt
    @Hoscitt 5 років тому +46

    All that matters is that maple looks better 😁

    • @Simbetam
      @Simbetam 5 років тому +7

      only on strats and teles i think.

    • @Hoscitt
      @Hoscitt 5 років тому

      @@Simbetam Agreed!

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 5 років тому +2

      Kay If we really mean on Fenders then I’m prepared to double agree. 😃

    • @daveywiles6412
      @daveywiles6412 5 років тому

      Eww strats between 1959-1965 are all rosewood best years by far

  • @ToTheGAMES
    @ToTheGAMES 5 років тому +33

    Team Rosewood. I love me dem dark tones.

    • @phasergim2154
      @phasergim2154 5 років тому +3

      To The GAMES ebony is my favourite

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому

      Too dark, Phaser Gim.
      Maple is too light.
      Therefore...rosewood is just right (and this video is going to be demonetised due to 3 Bears copywrite infringement).

    • @RandyEpp
      @RandyEpp 5 років тому +2

      Ebony is bright like Maple because it's so dense.

    • @RicardoDiazHimself
      @RicardoDiazHimself 5 років тому +2

      Rosewood is brighter than maple

  • @seanbrooks2583
    @seanbrooks2583 5 років тому +1

    I have both, including 1 piece rosewood necks and roasted maple necks.
    The roasted maple and rosewood almost feel identical. I think the big difference is whether or not it has a coating on it or not.

  • @mikeboxler759
    @mikeboxler759 5 років тому

    for me, I think its more about the way the fret board feels, which in turn, effects the way you react to the instrument? does this make sense?

  • @paulcalmond
    @paulcalmond 5 років тому +5

    "I am never going to tell the differences when you're playing with distortion".
    Agreed, which is why Rob's apparent love of distortion makes most of his demonstrations on Anderton's so frustrating and dare I suggest of little value.

  • @fenderfreak215
    @fenderfreak215 5 років тому +5

    I happen to like both fretboards, and I really don’t hear a difference to be honest

  • @johnnygault365
    @johnnygault365 5 років тому

    Lee always does that wee boston type run from the D chord
    your playing has improved so much over the last year or so
    Keep it up
    I'm a bedroom busker and 2 years ago at age 40 I decided to learn theory
    Best desicion I've made

  • @TheKrou
    @TheKrou 5 років тому

    The difference doesn't just have to be in sound to be significant. Feel affects how you play, and it is also an important distinction to consider. I don't know if you can really separate the two.