Nice work! As this video played, my Plymouth from childhood sat 10 feet away in cobwebs awaiting repair... during dismantling, I'm saying come on man you have to drill that out... let's see what's in there (I remembered my Dad and I never liked Tyco rivets). Afterwards I went to take a look at my old one to see what drilling out might entail... to my surprise it had already been drilled out! I vaguely now remember doing it... it may come back to me as to why... This engine has about 300,000 miles on it and was a favorite and quiet runner. I am now more inspired to get it back running! The historical review is really outstanding and appreciated.
Glad I was able to inspire you to get your 'Ol Gal running again!! I see you've become a member. Now that infamous user name of your will be scrolling up the screen at the end of my vids :-)
Very cool little switcher. I have the Bell Telephone which is from the last batch of Tyco in 1967. Has a SWEET original 5-pole skew wound motor. Very smooth and quiet
That is Valerie Bertinelli, pre- Eddie Van Halen. I recently did an MU-2 teardown of my own. I used a drill bit to remove the swaged part of the rivet and you can't even tell. Target loco was a Tyco GP-20, mid-60's. Ran super after a clean and lube. I do have one of these little guys as well that I have had for many years. It is a near mint version with US Steel. It does not have any handrails on it though. Never even thought about it before. And yes, you don't want to lose those little insulators. Noticed you had quite a time getting them back in. I found that putting the insulators on both ends of the sideplate and then sliding the whole kit and caboodle all in at the same time worked for me. Nice to see you getting back to Tyco!
I tried putting both insulators on and then sliding it in. Didnt work out well. I think its probably supposed to be assembled out of the body shell and then installed. I was just going about it backwards..... as usual ;-)
I have three of these and so happy you’re making a video about them. My Bell Telephone switcher is from 1965 or 1966. My other two I bought on eBay over 10 years ago. I put Kadee couplers on them. Gotta watch out for shorts.
The Plymouth, one of many "critters" built in the USA over the years. Most enjoyable video. I don't think I've ever heard one sound like that, though. - Johnny from Texas
Fun, informative and LOUD! Pack the body with a block or two of dense sponge. We do this on our 08 shunters. Stops 'em acting like a sound box. C'mon "Synco", sponsor this guy!
Ron, I've got the UP silver bottom version with the screws... yes, they run like a top when they are in Top condition. I've wondered, if you ever want to resell your locomotives like these after you're tired of them, why not have the Kadees on one end and X2F's on the other? That way, if you decide to keep the loco', and obtain more restorable freight/passenger cars, you needn't worry about finding a "Transition car" to pull both kinds of couplers with your locomotive(s). Especially on diesels when you can run them in pairs, "knuckles" on one end and "horn-hooks" on the other. John
I LOVE these small industrial diesel switchers! You can get a LOT of point-to-point railroading action on a long, narrow platform, using these fine locomotives. Great fun! 🚂
So interesting! I spent the last week refurbishing my childhood CR-4. However I gutted mine and put a NWSL drive with DCC & Keep Alive in it. It runs great now and doesn’t have that loud growl. But it’s not vintage anymore. Fun to see this pop up right when I just finished my project.
I done went through one of those this summer. I fought mine in the same places you did. I do like these little switchers. Thanks for another great video. 33%!!
Cool locomotive. I'll have to find one! Hooker Chemical Company. You can still get the Hooker tank cars. The plastic shell on most of the old locos turns it into a loudspeaker, vibrates to the motor.
Well right after this video dropped the value of these starts shooting up. Don't be surprised if they start going for $200 a pop now. I actually lost the auction for the "Ford Motor Company" ones you showed in this video and those are leading the charge for the value of these things going to the moon. Funny how most of those liveries are automotive or automotive adjacent brands. Even Timken. Great video and wish me luck hunting for the Ford ones
These little guys were used extensively by modellers of New South Wales railways in Australia as imitations of X100/X200 shunting locos despite there being a white metal kit (circa 1980) and eventually a RTR plastic (circa 2010). They were great little runners and very reliable.
I can truly appreciate and understand fully,just how much a pain it can be ,having to dismantle ,maintain and reassemble many types of model trains.Currently as I watch this video ,I'm having a ball...trying to re-attach the drive shaft of an all brass Climax locomotive,lol.
It is really nice to see you working Ron with a MU2 motor again. I can only imagine if Tyco had continued using it, instead changing to a real pice of crap, the infamous “Powertorque”, something so bad as the horribles pancake motors used by Lifelike and Bachmann This beauty shall be a serious candidate to be submitted to Mr. Dodd’s marvelous tool, in order to enhance her (already good) performance. A very good and interesting work my friend (as always)!
I've never been into these little plymouth swtichers, but all the different road names/ company names like RCA etc are kinda tempting! I also need to get one of those microscopic drill bit sets so I can do railings
Excellent video Ron. I think I have a few of these in the moving boxes I haven’t unpacked yet. I will save this video in my locomotive repair folder. Keep up the great videos. Happy Thanksgiving.
I used to live right down the road from there.. It was named "Plymouth" because they were produced in Plymouth, Ohio. The guys in Shiloh, Ohio actually used to work at the plant and not for WW Williams. They do refurbs in Shiloh. Plymouth Loco built shunters and switchers from 24" gauge which were used in almost every industry from inside mines and factories, to full size and switching on the main lines. Before WW Williams it was sold to Ohio Loco Crane in Bucyrus, Ohio which is about 40 minute drive from Plymouth. Funny story, Chrysler tried to sue in the 30s to get control of the Plymouth name, but they lost because Plymouth was already in use so Chrysler had to pay a royalty to Plymouth Loco to use the name.
Yea I messed up the talking part about where the Fellers worked but I tried to fix it with a subtitle that they worked at Plymouth. Sometimes people dont see the subtitles. Thanks for the good information!
@classicmodeltrains all good! I did not see the subtitles come on the screen. But the history of Plymouth is actually kinda neat.. They started Silver-line tractors during the depression when loco orders dropped, the started out building trucks and Clay mining/processing equipment at the outset before locos, and the earlier switchers used a friction drive similar to what Dixon mowers used on their zero turns the last few decades
Hi Ron, OOOOOWEEEE, that sure is a noisy lil engine . That should wake the dog from a nap 😂. Another good tear down, nice you removed the pins to remove the bottom plate to fully clean and oil the gears. Till the next one, G
I have one of those Mantua switchers in silver w/black roof labeled "Pennsylvannia" runs well! I repainted it yellow to match local industrial switchers around here in Mississippi!
I love tyco too. I have a bunch of rolling stock. I have bought a cursed 080 Chattanooga tender drive. Its in great visual condition but only the light comes on and from time to time if I hold the tender trucks down to the track harder then it runs. But won't go far to before it stalls. I cleaned and rebuilt it but now it does nothing. I just built a 8x4 table in my shed to start a layout.
Ron those small drills are hard to get started what I do is take my Exacto razor with a #11 blade and use the tip to make a small hole where you want to start the bit. I also collect Tyco stuff it's just fun to refurbish.
Very nice working on this mantua tyco Plymouth cr-4 switcher here! I really the paint on it. It does look like the locomotive painted in the americas bicentennial scheme. Btw I hope you have a nice early thanksgiving! 33%er
Another great video. Always had the hots for Valerie. She was/is a real cutey. Thanks for sharing. Oh by the way I blame you for the mess on my workbench. I have a Lionel 675 engine totally in pieces undergoing a rebuild. Waiting for the ultrasonic cleaner to get here so I can get it put back together. :-) Thanks! LOL
Well, so much for collectibility, the one I acquired at a trains show some years back got kitbashed for my freelance On30 railway. 😁 Guess that it ran well enough to become a kitbash candidate is a compliment to its designers and builders.
What luck! I just got one of these but in the Republic Steel livery! Havent messed with it yet but after watching this I may have to tinker with it now!
Hey Ron, just watched your little Tyco Plymouth video I didn't have one of these collectibles but I had a 70' one in SP livery it was quiet and slot car fast lol but this one interested me and while watching on my TV I use my phone to search the web about what you are talking about I saw your warshing accident I looked up ho decals and I found some Ge decals I've got them saved if you want to decals it let me know I'll get them and send them to you !! I liked this video you did very good I always cringe when rivers have to be cut off I'm looking for a rivet c-clamp press right now for when I restore my Standard gauge Lionel set !! I'm also getting ready to start on my layout room which I will be filming so keep an eye out for that my channel has been slowing down because of lack of traffic thru Huntsville so layout room building and Hot rod working will supplement that lack of traffic!! Thanks for the great info!!
Thanks Eric. I'm good on the decals, thanks for the offer. A C-Clamp rivet press? that sounds like a great idea!! Ive been looking for a standard gauge loco to restore. I have the track and some cars just no loco yet. they fetch a nice penny on the eBay I see
I was at the old Plymouth plant in 2001. It was on the way home from riding behind Ohio Central 6325 on her inaugural run. The plant building was (is per Google Earth) still there and echoes of its former rail heritage were present. Edit: Well, Ron, eVilbay heard you. Someone has a boxed Ford version for $169.99. Valerie Bertinelli
Feeding the beast, Radio Shack has those 12 volt incandescent bulbs, Archer part #272-1143 with a base of E-5. Got several for ya in the next box as I don't use incandescent bulbs. I always change them out for LED's. Hope to get it to in the next couple of weeks. Cheers from eastern TN
Hi Ron, brilliant video as always, I love these little switchers (shunters over here ), they look a lot like some of ours. Satin paint I believe is in between Matt and gloss and I wish I could do handrails like you, i'm too hamfisted with my pork sausage fingers. May I ask you, how many watts your soldering iron is?.
I'll have to get one like that but we're 240 volt over here, the one I have is 60watt but it's like a poker. I've found that bars of soap can be very acidic, so if you can get a more alkaline ph balanced one of even the hand soap in those pump action bottles it will be better for cleaning the plastic bodies. Hope that might help. D H.
Hooker was a chemical company back in the day, they had their own line of tank cars. I have a model of one, the only reason I know that. Guess tyco took the name and color scheme and made a Plymouth model. Don’t know any more than that. Thanks for the show…
Remember the silver and orange GE one. The end cab MDT switcher was also done by AHM though the Tyco was also modded to transform a bit for the Transformers Tyco set IIRC. Hooker was a chemical company and lastly the Ford branded bring in the higher prices because the cross several collector interests toy trains,railroadania,advertisiana,automotive and Fordiana
There after 2:32, I'm betting the reason those end pieces did not lift right out is because the retaining screws caused expansion of the plastic tubes they go in to.
Sometimes I wonder if that walmart apple gate paint was developed specifically by a group of secret railroad modelers. I do the same thing where the stuff is so cheap you can buy a handful of shades that you are bound to find a perfect match from. Thanks.
I use washing up liquid to wash my model bodies in. Never had an issue with decals or pain coming off. I also use a SOFT toothbrush. IN Australia you can only get SOFT but some places do sell MEDIUM. It's almost impossible to find a HARD toothbrush. Would love to know what's in SIMPLE GREEN because we cannot get it in Australia
Did you ever consider restoring old slot cars? I put all my Atlas, Aurora, and Tyco HO scale slot cars in a box in 1969, and just extracted it all from storage after 55 years. There are other UA-cam channels specializing in such things, but maybe you might have an interest too?
I had to google the GMDH-2. could not find it but found the -1 and -3 version. Very interesting designs they have. Very curvy and look like a space ship car. This CR-4 is very boxy. Are you sure your referencing the right model of switcher?
@@classicmodeltrains yes, or I think what I meant was it kinda looks similar to a gmd-1 or a gmdh-1. But yeah I think I confused myself otherwise and forgot there is no gmdh-2.
I HATE rivets! In 1961 Tyco/Mantua's suggested retail price for this locomotive was $6.98. Sounds cheap right? Nope! A quick check with an inflation calculator shows that $6.98 in 1961 is the equivalent of $73.69 in 2024! This was not a cheap product! I suspect Tyco/Mantua insisted on riveting their MU2 power trucks together to save a few cents on manufacturing costs. I can't believe that the engineers who designed this mechanism did not envision customers needing access to the worm gears and bearings for servicing! Did they assume that there would always be hobby shops that offered authorized Tyco/Mantua Service? Maybe they didn't expect their products to last long enough to need servicing? If that's the case, who would spend the equivalent of $73 dollars in today's money on a disposable model? What was Tyco/Mantua's management thinking? None of Tyco/Mantua's competitors in this market were riveting their models together. Was the profit margin so slim that they could not afford self tapping screws? God forbid, the model might have to retail for $7 bucks!
I agree with you on them prices. I even included them in the video. One Feller told me they were riveted because they did not need servicing. Ive heard nylon gears do not need lubrication. Guess we might never know the Truth
Ron, do you remember the MU1, the one with screws instead of rivets? Didn’t you make a video about a Tyco with a mu1? I vaguely remember posting some comment about it… telling you I’ve had never seen one of it…
Its called a tip cleaner I bought in the welding section of the hardware store. Also can be called a pin vise and wire sized drill bits. many different names for the same tools.
@@terrymatvichuk1421 I know, I have those as well. Trust me. the thing I used to drill them holes is marketed as a tip cleaner for cutting torches. I would not steer you down the wrong path 🙂
Ron, I love that you give both the prototype and model history...very well done sir!! And another loco rides the rails again!!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it Ray :-)
Nice work! As this video played, my Plymouth from childhood sat 10 feet away in cobwebs awaiting repair... during dismantling, I'm saying come on man you have to drill that out... let's see what's in there (I remembered my Dad and I never liked Tyco rivets).
Afterwards I went to take a look at my old one to see what drilling out might entail... to my surprise it had already been drilled out! I vaguely now remember doing it... it may come back to me as to why... This engine has about 300,000 miles on it and was a favorite and quiet runner. I am now more inspired to get it back running!
The historical review is really outstanding and appreciated.
Glad I was able to inspire you to get your 'Ol Gal running again!! I see you've become a member. Now that infamous user name of your will be scrolling up the screen at the end of my vids :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Thanks, looking forward! Finally I'm moving up in the world!
Very cool little switcher. I have the Bell Telephone which is from the last batch of Tyco in 1967. Has a SWEET original 5-pole skew wound motor. Very smooth and quiet
Strange that its skew wound? Did you put a different motor in it?
@@classicmodeltrains I bought it with that setup! It is an otherwise perfect fit if it is not the original.
Plymouth switcher just in time for us pilgrims!….thanks traininggiving!…lol..great video keep up the great work!
Thanks
That is Valerie Bertinelli, pre- Eddie Van Halen. I recently did an MU-2 teardown of my own. I used a drill bit to remove the swaged part of the rivet and you can't even tell. Target loco was a Tyco GP-20, mid-60's. Ran super after a clean and lube. I do have one of these little guys as well that I have had for many years. It is a near mint version with US Steel. It does not have any handrails on it though. Never even thought about it before. And yes, you don't want to lose those little insulators. Noticed you had quite a time getting them back in. I found that putting the insulators on both ends of the sideplate and then sliding the whole kit and caboodle all in at the same time worked for me. Nice to see you getting back to Tyco!
I tried putting both insulators on and then sliding it in. Didnt work out well. I think its probably supposed to be assembled out of the body shell and then installed. I was just going about it backwards..... as usual ;-)
I have three of these and so happy you’re making a video about them. My Bell Telephone switcher is from 1965 or 1966. My other two I bought on eBay over 10 years ago. I put Kadee couplers on them. Gotta watch out for shorts.
OOhhh......... I never thought about shorts thru the couplers. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@classicmodeltrains I was thinking about those pesky cardboard insulators but you had them figured out.
The Plymouth, one of many "critters" built in the USA over the years. Most enjoyable video. I don't think I've ever heard one sound like that, though. - Johnny from Texas
The other one I have dont sound like that. Might have to look into it again ;-)
Fun, informative and LOUD! Pack the body with a block or two of dense sponge. We do this on our 08 shunters. Stops 'em acting like a sound box. C'mon "Synco", sponsor this guy!
Thanks Darren
Ron, I've got the UP silver bottom version with the screws... yes, they run like a top when they are in Top condition. I've wondered, if you ever want to resell your locomotives like these after you're tired of them, why not have the Kadees on one end and X2F's on the other? That way, if you decide to keep the loco', and obtain more restorable freight/passenger cars, you needn't worry about finding a "Transition car" to pull both kinds of couplers with your locomotive(s). Especially on diesels when you can run them in pairs, "knuckles" on one end and "horn-hooks" on the other. John
Not a bad idea there John :-)
I LOVE these small industrial diesel switchers!
You can get a LOT of point-to-point railroading action on a long, narrow platform, using these fine locomotives. Great fun! 🚂
Bingo! 😄 While I like pretty much all kinds of railroading, that is my favorite kind of model railroading.
Right On!
Sooper Loob!!!!!! Love it!!!!
Rock on!
Love that you take care of that old stuff Because if you don't do it who will keep them coming brother
Thanks James. Old stuff needs love too
Yes, the Plymouth is one of my favorite classic models that is fun to collect, restore, and operate.
Another great job Ron!
Thanks Paul
So interesting! I spent the last week refurbishing my childhood CR-4. However I gutted mine and put a NWSL drive with DCC & Keep Alive in it. It runs great now and doesn’t have that loud growl. But it’s not vintage anymore. Fun to see this pop up right when I just finished my project.
Crazy timing!
Great job, Ron. I appreciate your attention to detail.
Thanks!
I done went through one of those this summer. I fought mine in the same places you did. I do like these little switchers. Thanks for another great video. 33%!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Cool locomotive. I'll have to find one! Hooker Chemical Company. You can still get the Hooker tank cars. The plastic shell on most of the old locos turns it into a loudspeaker, vibrates to the motor.
Thanks Kelly. Yes them shells do make any noises a lot louder for sure
@@classicmodeltrains Hooker Chemical created the Love Canal toxic waste dump near Niagara Falls, NY. Cool thing to model!
As always Great Video Sir! You are the "Train Whisperer"! Lol Super Lube!! Awesome Work!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Your the most badass model railroader ive ever seen.
Very kind of you!
Good one Ron. She’s really growling.
Its mad about something for sure
Well right after this video dropped the value of these starts shooting up. Don't be surprised if they start going for $200 a pop now. I actually lost the auction for the "Ford Motor Company" ones you showed in this video and those are leading the charge for the value of these things going to the moon. Funny how most of those liveries are automotive or automotive adjacent brands. Even Timken. Great video and wish me luck hunting for the Ford ones
I guess I will never have a ford one if they go for that much.
@@classicmodeltrains ironically that's wat I said after I lost. It's possible with time
These little guys were used extensively by modellers of New South Wales railways in Australia as imitations of X100/X200 shunting locos despite there being a white metal kit (circa 1980) and eventually a RTR plastic (circa 2010). They were great little runners and very reliable.
Interesting!
Oh. That was fun to watch like allways
Thanks Brent
I can truly appreciate and understand fully,just how much a pain it can be ,having to dismantle ,maintain and reassemble many types of model trains.Currently as I watch this video ,I'm having a ball...trying to re-attach the drive shaft of an all brass Climax locomotive,lol.
Sounds like you have your hands full
@@classicmodeltrains I do!. The crank shaft underneath the model is so small and intricate. I'm almost too afraid to tough the darn thing,lol.
Nice job, especially the "restore" of the paint and handrail.
Thank you very much!
Hah! The first Plymouth I got came in bits in a ziplock bag. So that was fun. I had to discover the insulating situation on my own. Love your vids.
Thank you. Sounds like you got the basket case going again?
@@classicmodeltrains I did, After plenty of staring at it, waiting for the short to tell me where it was. It's one of my better running MU2's.
Great video as usual Ron. Thanks for showing the extra stuff. I was very bummed that it was so loud though.
Thanks, I'm a bit bummed as well
That was fun ride and what a noisy little thing. Great video, Jersey Bill
Glad you enjoyed it J.B. It sure is noisy!
Wow, quite a growler…great job on the rebuild too…keep all that know-how streaming…33%-er cheering from 🇨🇦 🍁…
Thanks for watching!
Ron that's great, I have an Erie model never knew who made it! Know I know! As always Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving too! Coach your the bestest
Glad to help out William, Happy T-day to you and yours as well
Hello Ron how are you feeling...happy Thanksgiving to you and your family I like your videos you make me laugh 😊
I am doing fine Paul, Thank you and Happy T-Day to you and yours as well
From a 33%er, thank you for what you are doing
Thank you Jack!!
Cheers for another great video Ron, much appreciated ✌️
My pleasure!
Hi Ron & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks & Ron & Friends Randy
Hi Randy, Thanks for watching!
It is really nice to see you working Ron with a MU2 motor again. I can only imagine if Tyco had continued using it, instead changing to a real pice of crap, the infamous “Powertorque”, something so bad as the horribles pancake motors used by Lifelike and Bachmann
This beauty shall be a serious candidate to be submitted to Mr. Dodd’s marvelous tool, in order to enhance her (already good) performance.
A very good and interesting work my friend (as always)!
I wish I can figure out why so noisy. Many have said it's to much. Have to get back into her again and see what needs shimming or what not.
I've never been into these little plymouth swtichers, but all the different road names/ company names like RCA etc are kinda tempting! I also need to get one of those microscopic drill bit sets so I can do railings
Welcome to your new addiction ;-)
Great job on getting it running, I have a box maybe 5 of them not running I will have to get what I can running, again Thanks Ron .
Thanks 👍 Hope you get yours going again
Excellent video Ron. I think I have a few of these in the moving boxes I haven’t unpacked yet. I will save this video in my locomotive repair folder. Keep up the great videos. Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
I used to live right down the road from there.. It was named "Plymouth" because they were produced in Plymouth, Ohio. The guys in Shiloh, Ohio actually used to work at the plant and not for WW Williams. They do refurbs in Shiloh.
Plymouth Loco built shunters and switchers from 24" gauge which were used in almost every industry from inside mines and factories, to full size and switching on the main lines.
Before WW Williams it was sold to Ohio Loco Crane in Bucyrus, Ohio which is about 40 minute drive from Plymouth.
Funny story, Chrysler tried to sue in the 30s to get control of the Plymouth name, but they lost because Plymouth was already in use so Chrysler had to pay a royalty to Plymouth Loco to use the name.
Yea I messed up the talking part about where the Fellers worked but I tried to fix it with a subtitle that they worked at Plymouth. Sometimes people dont see the subtitles. Thanks for the good information!
@classicmodeltrains all good! I did not see the subtitles come on the screen. But the history of Plymouth is actually kinda neat.. They started Silver-line tractors during the depression when loco orders dropped, the started out building trucks and Clay mining/processing equipment at the outset before locos, and the earlier switchers used a friction drive similar to what Dixon mowers used on their zero turns the last few decades
Thanks Ron. Loved the video.
Thanks for watching
Hi Ron,
OOOOOWEEEE, that sure is a noisy lil engine .
That should wake the dog from a nap 😂.
Another good tear down, nice you removed the pins to remove the bottom plate to fully clean and oil the gears.
Till the next one, G
:-)
Have a happy Thanksgiving, Ron! 🦃
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well
I have one of those Mantua switchers in silver w/black roof labeled "Pennsylvannia" runs well! I repainted it yellow to match local industrial switchers around here in Mississippi!
Right on! The Pennsy road name must be a re-paint. I did not see where they did any of those from the factory
Great video, Ron. Do like the little switchers. On my layout, the static display/tourist stop is a Plymouth switcher😊🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲
Thanks!
I love tyco too. I have a bunch of rolling stock. I have bought a cursed 080 Chattanooga tender drive. Its in great visual condition but only the light comes on and from time to time if I hold the tender trucks down to the track harder then it runs. But won't go far to before it stalls. I cleaned and rebuilt it but now it does nothing. I just built a 8x4 table in my shed to start a layout.
Glad you have a layout going. I made a video on them tender drives. Perhaps there's some good info in there for ya
Ron those small drills are hard to get started what I do is take my Exacto razor with a #11 blade and use the tip to make a small hole where you want to start the bit. I also collect Tyco stuff it's just fun to refurbish.
Thanks for the tip Eddie
Great video ron
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it Dave
Great video Ron kinda like the way that little switcher sounds..... must be the 300 HP version😅
Its a growler for sure. No need for DCC sound back in the day :-)
Very nice working on this mantua tyco Plymouth cr-4 switcher here! I really the paint on it. It does look like the locomotive painted in the americas bicentennial scheme. Btw I hope you have a nice early thanksgiving! 33%er
Happy Thanksgiving too!!
Another great video. Always had the hots for Valerie. She was/is a real cutey. Thanks for sharing. Oh by the way I blame you for the mess on my workbench. I have a Lionel 675 engine totally in pieces undergoing a rebuild. Waiting for the ultrasonic cleaner to get here so I can get it put back together. :-) Thanks! LOL
Thank John. I'm soon going to have a 2056 in pieces for a complete restore. They do hog up some space when there in pieces ;-)
Well, so much for collectibility, the one I acquired at a trains show some years back got kitbashed for my freelance On30 railway. 😁 Guess that it ran well enough to become a kitbash candidate is a compliment to its designers and builders.
:-)
Saving this one for after dinner
It’s becoming a Monday night routine
Nice!!
What luck! I just got one of these but in the Republic Steel livery! Havent messed with it yet but after watching this I may have to tinker with it now!
Hope she is a bit quieter than this one ;-)
I knew that was Valerie! I didn't know Tyco made that many switchers. I think I have all the trolleys they made.
I want to get all the trolleys as well
Great video! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it.
CMT you the best.
Thank you
Hey Ron, just watched your little Tyco Plymouth video I didn't have one of these collectibles but I had a 70' one in SP livery it was quiet and slot car fast lol but this one interested me and while watching on my TV I use my phone to search the web about what you are talking about I saw your warshing accident I looked up ho decals and I found some Ge decals I've got them saved if you want to decals it let me know I'll get them and send them to you !! I liked this video you did very good I always cringe when rivers have to be cut off I'm looking for a rivet c-clamp press right now for when I restore my Standard gauge Lionel set !! I'm also getting ready to start on my layout room which I will be filming so keep an eye out for that my channel has been slowing down because of lack of traffic thru Huntsville so layout room building and Hot rod working will supplement that lack of traffic!! Thanks for the great info!!
Thanks Eric. I'm good on the decals, thanks for the offer. A C-Clamp rivet press? that sounds like a great idea!! Ive been looking for a standard gauge loco to restore. I have the track and some cars just no loco yet. they fetch a nice penny on the eBay I see
@@classicmodeltrains Ron there are some deals out there !! It's been a 5 year adventure for me !! Still looking for a mail car to finish the set !
I was at the old Plymouth plant in 2001. It was on the way home from riding behind Ohio Central 6325 on her inaugural run. The plant building was (is per Google Earth) still there and echoes of its former rail heritage were present.
Edit: Well, Ron, eVilbay heard you. Someone has a boxed Ford version for $169.99.
Valerie Bertinelli
Thanks for the info on the Plymouth plant, and yes you guessed her right
Thank you for sharing.👍
Thanks for watching
Feeding the beast, Radio Shack has those 12 volt incandescent bulbs, Archer part #272-1143 with a base of E-5. Got several for ya in the next box as I don't use incandescent bulbs. I always change them out for LED's. Hope to get it to in the next couple of weeks. Cheers from eastern TN
That’s awesome, Thanks!
Radio Shack still around by you?
@@johnorlitta No lost it about 2 years ago. Might as well because it no longer had the component level stuff it had back in the 80's and 90's.
@@classicmodeltrainsI was sad to see it go, another casualty of online sites
Bro youre a beauty thanks for making these amazing videos!
Thank you, I appreciate you watching!
YEA, new video. COOL.
:-)
i got one custom paint and weathered love it
Right on!
Hooker Chemical. Always a trip. Thanks.
You are welcome!
Another outstanding video Ron, I recently got myself a hooker chemical car lol
Thanks, I think I might have 1 hooker tanker
Used to be married to that famous guitar god. Thanks Ron.
You are right on that one Dennis!!
Very nice !!!
:-)
there's a 1980 model railroader article on how to convert two of those critters into a CR-8
Right on!
Hi Ron, brilliant video as always, I love these little switchers (shunters over here ), they look a lot like some of ours. Satin paint I believe is in between Matt and gloss and I wish I could do handrails like you, i'm too hamfisted with my pork sausage fingers. May I ask you, how many watts your soldering iron is?.
Thank you! Says it draws 65 watts of 120 volts single phase on the back of it.
I'll have to get one like that but we're 240 volt over here, the one I have is 60watt but it's like a poker. I've found that bars of soap can be very acidic, so if you can get a more alkaline ph balanced one of even the hand soap in those pump action bottles it will be better for cleaning the plastic bodies. Hope that might help. D H.
The future Mrs Van Halen
Yup!
Hooker was a chemical company back in the day, they had their own line of tank cars. I have a model of one, the only reason I know that. Guess tyco took the name and color scheme and made a Plymouth model. Don’t know any more than that. Thanks for the show…
Thanks John. I hear now that hooker were the ones that polluted "love Canal"
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Remember the silver and orange GE one.
The end cab MDT switcher was also done by AHM though the Tyco was also modded to transform a bit for the Transformers Tyco set IIRC.
Hooker was a chemical company and lastly the Ford branded bring in the higher prices because the cross several collector interests toy trains,railroadania,advertisiana,automotive and Fordiana
Makes since with the Ford stuff stuff :-)
There after 2:32, I'm betting the reason those end pieces did not lift right out is because the retaining screws caused expansion of the plastic tubes they go in to.
Sounds like a good reason to me :-)
Hooked for Hooker Chemicals like the tank cars. 😉 my guess is Valerie Bertonelli.
Yup! first guess and its a good one!!
Yeah, that's all that I was thinking too..
You showing up this week?
@classicmodeltrains leaving tomorrow morning, bright and early..
That issue of Ho collector is sold out. Any chance of getting a copy of the CR4 article? I don’t know if that would violate copyright laws.
Its on the internet. Google Plymouth CR-4 switcher. Thats how I found out the article was in that copy I had.
Cool video! Isn’t that Valerie Bertenelli? I will admit I have a fair number of tyco/mantua locomotives and this is one I do not have.
Thanks Erick, Yes thats her.
Fun project. Little noisey but it runs
:-)
Sometimes I wonder if that walmart apple gate paint was developed specifically by a group of secret railroad modelers. I do the same thing where the stuff is so cheap you can buy a handful of shades that you are bound to find a perfect match from. Thanks.
Seems thats the least expensive part of being a modeler is that paint from Walmart :-D
I use washing up liquid to wash my model bodies in. Never had an issue with decals or pain coming off. I also use a SOFT toothbrush. IN Australia you can only get SOFT but some places do sell MEDIUM. It's almost impossible to find a HARD toothbrush. Would love to know what's in SIMPLE GREEN because we cannot get it in Australia
I used to use dawn dish soap. I should probably go back to it. Thanks for becoming a member Peter!! Put your name in the scroll this week
Have 1 from Tyco
Right on!
PPG is one of the only US companies still manufacturing aircraft transparencies.
Whats a aircraft transparency? The windshield? Decals/stickers?
@@classicmodeltrainsyes simple one like for airliners and complex like the B2 bomber.
They were not meant to be serviced. That’s why they were sealed. They did such a good job. That’s why customers never had any trouble with them.
Sounds weird to me. kinda like ball-joints with no grease zerk. :-)
You need a pin vice !!!
I have a pin vice
Did you ever consider restoring old slot cars? I put all my Atlas, Aurora, and Tyco HO scale slot cars in a box in 1969, and just extracted it all from storage after 55 years. There are other UA-cam channels specializing in such things, but maybe you might have an interest too?
I thought she looked a little like Valerie Bertinelli, but not enough to guess her. Oh, well.
I have to many things going on to start up another addiction ;-)
@@classicmodeltrains I thought that might be the case. But keep it in mind when you run out of things to do! :)
Are those HP numbers correct? 300-700Hp? My pickup puts out 400HP.
Thats what my research said. 300 to 700 hp industrial engine output is definitely in the ball park.
Could you repair a Bachman 0-6-0 switcher
Ive done one way back in the day. check out my playlist for Bachmann repair video's
@ I was asking because I got one that just doesn’t start
Hey, if I watch this all the way through twice, does that make me a 66%'er or a 16 1/2%'er? 🤔
I'll go with 66%-er :-)
It's all about the 33% see you next time great video and information
For sure!
I know it isn't a emd, but why does it look like a even tinier version of the gmdh-2
I had to google the GMDH-2. could not find it but found the -1 and -3 version. Very interesting designs they have. Very curvy and look like a space ship car. This CR-4 is very boxy. Are you sure your referencing the right model of switcher?
@@classicmodeltrains yes, or I think what I meant was it kinda looks similar to a gmd-1 or a gmdh-1. But yeah I think I confused myself otherwise and forgot there is no gmdh-2.
Valerie Bertinelli ?
Yup!
I'm thinking that's Valerie Bertinelli of One Day At A Time fame, not to mention being married to Eddie Van Halen
You are correct
I think the motor is an MU2.
I agree
Valerie Bertinelli. The late great Eddie Van Halen's ex-wife.
Yup!
Valery Bertinelli.
Yup!
Valero Bertinelli
Yup
I HATE rivets! In 1961 Tyco/Mantua's suggested retail price for this locomotive was $6.98. Sounds cheap right? Nope! A quick check with an inflation calculator shows that $6.98 in 1961 is the equivalent of $73.69 in 2024! This was not a cheap product! I suspect Tyco/Mantua insisted on riveting their MU2 power trucks together to save a few cents on manufacturing costs. I can't believe that the engineers who designed this mechanism did not envision customers needing access to the worm gears and bearings for servicing! Did they assume that there would always be hobby shops that offered authorized Tyco/Mantua Service? Maybe they didn't expect their products to last long enough to need servicing? If that's the case, who would spend the equivalent of $73 dollars in today's money on a disposable model? What was Tyco/Mantua's management thinking? None of Tyco/Mantua's competitors in this market were riveting their models together. Was the profit margin so slim that they could not afford self tapping screws? God forbid, the model might have to retail for $7 bucks!
I agree with you on them prices. I even included them in the video. One Feller told me they were riveted because they did not need servicing. Ive heard nylon gears do not need lubrication. Guess we might never know the Truth
Ron, do you remember the MU1, the one with screws instead of rivets? Didn’t you make a video about a Tyco with a mu1? I vaguely remember posting some comment about it… telling you I’ve had never seen one of it…
It sounds like a train,and those aren't tip cleaners that's a pin vise and wire size number drills
Its called a tip cleaner I bought in the welding section of the hardware store. Also can be called a pin vise and wire sized drill bits. many different names for the same tools.
@classicmodeltrains tip cleaners are usely in a aluminum folding container that hold about 10 little wire files
@@terrymatvichuk1421 I know, I have those as well. Trust me. the thing I used to drill them holes is marketed as a tip cleaner for cutting torches. I would not steer you down the wrong path 🙂
Valerie bertanellly
Yup!
33%!! you sure not sneaking off alone to run that engine its as loud as a chainsaw
Yes, but no DCC sound needed for this one ;-)