This is fantastic! My mission was the only time in my life that I dealt with depression, anxiety, and an identity crippling sense of inadequacy. My mission was easily the least healthy thing psychologically I've ever experienced. This video lays out exactly how this happens to people. Thank you forever my man!!!
+No Nonsense Lisa I'm glad I never went on a mission. I felt depressed and anxious all the time I was a Mormon. A mission would have destroyed me completely!
How are you doing today? Are you still in the church? I reach out to the missionaries as much as possible. As long as they will talk to me. I want to encourage them to get to know the Jesus of the New Testament. The Jesus that paid their debt in full with no conditions based on their performance. Not the one that simply refinanced their loan.
I went to a mission and had the worst 2-year psychological roller coaster of my life. My mission president threw a chair at me because we went to a mall (it was not allowed to go to mall in our mission).
+jebus6kryst OH yeah, as an archeologist aybe you could help these guys out too www.ldsliving.com/Omani-Sultan-Allows-LDS-Archaeologists-to-Dig-at-Nephi-s-Bountiful/s/81300
Brother Jake, I was a bad, bad missionary. When I was a district leader and any of my missionaries who hadn't baptized for a while, got the dreaded letter from the mission home asking them which rules they were breaking (because of course you cannot obey all the rules and not baptize), I would collect those letters and burn them at district meetings, telling my missionaries it was BS and not christian to assume people were doing something wrong if they didn't baptize. I hope this got them thinking enough to eventually become atheists like me. People need to realize that these men-children have been brainwashed all their lives to believe. Please be nice to them and help them see there's a wonderful world of secularism out there where they don't have to live in mental and emotional slavery.
+Grafight23 When I went on a mission, I mailed most of my stuff to myself at the mission as directed by the mission president. Being the spiritually inspired leader that my mission president was, he went through everything and decided what I got to keep and mailed everything else back to my parents while I was in the MTC. As a dumb 19 year old, it seemed a little suspicious why an inspired leader would commit a federal offense against all incoming missionaries, but now its not so suspicious; rather quite obvious. My only regret is that I didn't press charges when I had the opportunity to do so.
Caleb Ah, the MTC. After my mission I worked there for a while... few things will rub off your testimony faster than working at the MTC. I would cringe when I listened to the young missionaries enthusiastically proclaim "I KNOW" beyond doubt that this or that doctrine was true (except they often had it wrong and were testifying of things the church doesn't believe). You quickly realize that such "solemn witness" is pure BS.
Grafight23 I was never Mormon and never a missionary. I'm also not an atheist but I think you were probably the best District leader. If I had to do something like that I think I would appreciate somebody like you.
Being a missionary is hell. I went through a crisis of faith on my mission and I've just returned home. What might be even worse is how the members and my member family treats me here.
The gaslighting that goes into being a missionary is astounding. This hits so damn close to home. I’m still dealing with negative effects from my mission.
Gosh, I never realized how complicated this all is from an outsider perspective until you made this twelve minute video and still only managed to touch the surface of how messed up the missionary program is.
This video illustrates why you should be nice when these poor kids try to proselytize. On the way back from work, I saw some mormon kids biking on the side of highway in 22 degree weather. It made me sad :(
Knowing how fucked up the system that most of these poor young people are trapped, with all of its emotional and psychological manipulation, is why I'm always nice whenever I run into missionaries or they knock on my door.
+Mirandu Kan As someone diagnosed with depression on her mission, and who was emotionally abused by her companion, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. It was hard enough without people being rude.
Hi Brother Jake. I used to live in Seoul, South Korea and there were a pair of missionaries who would speak to people at the intersection where my office was. They approached me one day on my way out of work and flat out said “We know you don’t want to be Mormon. We just want to talk to people who speak English for a minute.” They asked if I have a religion and I said Im Catholic and attend the church nearby. They seemed rather lonely and distressed since Korea is a very insular culture that they said they were making no progress spreading Mormonism in because Koreans viewed them as part of a cult (cults are very common in Korea and people have little patience for them). Anyway, Im glad you’ve opened my eyes to see that there’s no way at all these young missionaries could have been desperately lonely after being thrown into one of the most insular cultures on earth because most of their time was filled up with making progress for their church and not even time wasters like exploring new ideas or engaging in some downtime activities.
I came back early from my mish and went to the sacrament meeting at my local ward, nobody would even talk to me, they didn't even ask why, just gave me the silent treatment
I discovered your video series yesterday. They are absolutely funny, healing (if you are a former Mormon), and entertaining. Thank you! Keep pointing out more topics like tithing settlement, temple ceremony, food storage, Smith's bank failure, crying for scripture, polyandry (Smith married other men's wives), or maybe the Carthage Jail shootout where a "Lamb lead to slaughter" kills two men.... Thanks!!!
C Whitener Joseph Smith had a lot of love in his heart for others especially the sisters in the church. He would unconditionally share his love to all sister and didn’t discriminate just because they were 14 or married to someone else’. Brother Joseph understood the big picture of the gospel, you have to provide bodies for all the unborn spirits that need to come to this earth.
Wow, I didn't know they made missionaries go at 18 now. Makes sense from the church perspective to do so, not leaving any time after graduating high school to allow them to think it through and back out, like I did.
awesome video! i've seen both sides of the missionary program. the pressure is real. if you don't go, that will be all you hear about. mormonism is totally not a cult though. thank you brother jake.
+Alex Lichty I don't like ANY religious people coming to my door and trying to sell their brand of religion to me. I was just saying, that I have been on both sides. (also the "mormonism is totally not a cult" was sarcasm) I used to go to a mormon church, and I've had them knock on my door. I send them away just like everyone else (7th day, witness, etc.). The Catholic church is the one true church eh? How do you know? All of them claim to be "the one and only true church". (Not sure if you're trolling with that comment, considering the channel) I'm an atheist, so they are all ridiculous to me. Most of the time I politely tell them that I'm not interested. They then leave. Not really a big deal. When I was single and living alone I occasionally had them do small chores (they ask to do them), like taking out the trash. It amused me. :P Mormon Jesus is a funny thing to read... xD P.S. how do you feel about J Witnesses harassing you at your door? :P
***** Lmao. It's stuff like this that makes me glad I'm an atheist. Looking at the ridiculous claims of religion, I don't have to worry about cherry picking stuff that makes sense, or try to say my religion somehow is less ridiculous than the others. Exorcism is still a thing that people believe in. Also remember the politician that stole the pope's water to bless himself and his family with? Also what the heck is a Scapular? :P
"Mormonism is totally not a cult" you should always ask the missionaries name one cult that calls itself a cult..... Almost every cult considers itself the true possessor of all truth.... And members feel so fortunate to have found the one path... So see Mormonism is not a cult
We never got Mormons where I lived, only JWs on a regular basis. I guess they have a similar schedule though I bet it isn't so ultra-intensive. After your explanation, I feel sorry for the Mormon proselytizers. I'm more likely to invite them in and offer them a free hour of funtime on my computer with a side order of chocolate milkshake and cookies and send them away with some comic books for later.
JE Hoyes haha sounds fun. I am unfortunate enough to live in the dead center of Mormonism, in Utah. The super religious mormon culture is really suffocating. Everyone expects everyone else to be mormon and go to church on Sundays and go to Activity Days and Young Womens'.And the first question they ask when trying to get to know you is "What ward are you in?" They definitely need cookies.
When I was growing up, my family lived in a neighborhood that included about 5 Mormon families, with kids about the same age as me and my siblings...we had a basement that is almost like a little apartment, so we hosted a few Mormon missionaries for a little while...of course, when my older sister turned 15, missionaries could not live in our house anymore even though they NEVER even walked up the stairs to the ground floor level or above (the basement had a separate entrance)...because a 15 year old girl resided there! That would be just preposterous to allow 2 18-year-old males living under the same roof as a 15-year-old female to whom they are not related! Can you imagine the type of debauchery that would encourage??
I have to say that these young men were extremely polite, and very quiet - most of the time, I forgot they were even there, except when I saw their bikes by the basement door...probably because they WEREN'T there, due to the crazy schedule they were expected to follow. I always wondered why it was ok with the church for the missionaries to stay with a non-religious family...my parents were not outspoken atheists, but it was certainly known that we did not attend church or belong to a religion.
O.O my sister is on a mission. I knew it was cray, but I didn't know the details. something all the non Mormons I know are surprised to hear is that she has to pay for it herself. they assume the church is paying her for her service.
"pay out of pocket" Yeah sounds like a real deal. I mean the LDS church surely can't afford to pay for them itself. It's not like its a multi-million dollar tax shelter.
I want the two years of my life I spent as a Mormon missionary back. Hell, I want the first 35 years of my life that I spent in this mind-controling cult back.
@kiwibrown, there wasn’t just one thing. It was more the culmination of many, many things that just didn’t add up after years of careful thought, research, and, yes, even prayer. Ultimately it all boiled down to the realization that I had no more reason to believe that the god of the Bible and the Book of Mormon exists than I do to believe that Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Odin, Anubis, or any of the other hundreds of gods ever worshipped throughout all of recorded human history actually exist. And once I’d had that realization, that was pretty much the nail in the coffin for the rest of the whole religion thing. Any religion.
That high expectation for males to serve a mission tends to make mormons critical of those who don't go. I knew a guy who went into the Marines right out of high school, skipping a mission. Instead of going himself he helped his parents fund his older brother & sister who were preparing for their missions. Yet a lot of "good" mormons in the single adult wards he was in during his time in the Marines looked down on him because he never went on a mission.
I just can't get enough Brother Jake! Thanks for the memories of my mission. I just wish I had bought beer from those wonderful Japanese vending machines. Some missionaries did.
It was a two year prison sentence and I was one of those that worked hard and took it seriously. Those that come home and say "it was the best two years of my life" are so full of bull crap but we all said it.
Hey, I love your videos so much! You mentioned charitable things here, as if they're not done. One of the things my mom nags about is how charitable the church is and all the things it does to help the poor and provide aid during tragedies. While that's not... false... it's not as much as it could be. I recently rewatched your tithing video, and it wasn't mentioned much there either. I was just wanting to suggest, if and when you get a chance to make a video in which that would be a pertinent topic, I would be of benefit from a video in which that is disputed. Anyway, I love your videos and can never get enough of them! Thanks for all you do!
Once I got really depressed and wrote my best friend who was on a mission, and his mission president answered, saying I shouldn't bother him with my problems because he had to be focused, plus e-mail wasn't for friends at the time, only family, so how dared I to force him being disobedient. pretty cool guy tho, He said he was gonna pray for me :).
Wow, my mission was really laid back. No one really paid much attention to the rules. I also had never experienced hazing until I went on my mission. Provo, Utah if anyone was wondering.
I remember getting emails from our stepson while he was on his mission. The whole thing would be about the gospel according to JS. Or JC. Word vomit from a brainwashed, indoctrinated kid. So sad.
+Tom Riddle cough cough.. I was the one that showed TBR Brother Jake. I love TBR, been watching the channel since it had like 20 subscribers. I'm not sure how I found brother Jake, probably suggested video section. I like to refer to this Jake as Bizzaro Jake.
This makes me really really really concerned about my Mormon friends because I wanna tell them everything I’ve learned and help them but they’re so fucking brainwashed and I don’t know what to dooooo
Wow! So Informative! All though learning about it this way is GREAT. ( Because you know LEARNING~ ) I do get happy when Brother Jake uploads too. As a black woman, I 've always want to talk to mormons about their beliefs -- mostly because I want to engage them in thoughts and conversation. ( and if this learning as a deep as it sounds.. my 'outsiders will hopefully give them pause'.
PforPanthera, The Mormon church does, in fact, ask each member to give 10% of their "net gain," and the member determines the number from that broad guidance. How many comply with the request for 10 % is anybody's guess. My guess is that half of the members give 10% of their money. As the other commenter hinted, the church has no motivation to pay every member's mission expenses; the church can populate the missionary training centers to maximum capacity every month without paying every member's missionary expenses. Members are taught that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints began with six members because that was the minimum number of people required to start a church in the state of New York. My point is that it was not a wealthy organization for many years. The tradition of the church not paying a missionary's expenses has carried on for 190 years. In cases where parents pay for their child's mission expenses, U.S.A. I.R.S. law requires parents to funnel monthly payments through the church to get a yearly tax deduction. There is money going out of the church at the same rate as it is going into the church, with regards to parents who pay for their children's mission. Some of those parents get audited; whereas, the yearly cost of a mission is often greater than 10 percent of their income--a red flag for the I.R.S. I am astonished by the majority of teenagers that pay for their own mission expenses with their own savings (for example, my biological brother). In this case, the first tax year expenditures (and, for a man serving 48 months, some of the second tax year expenditures) cannot be carried over as a tax deduction, when a self-providing missionary gains a paying job upon return from the mission field after one tax year.
+bjjolley Agreed! I am replying so if any apologist does try in reply to your comment, I will be notified of it and can watch the resulting fireworks. :-)
I used to work with a young blond guy (who looked a lot like Brother Jake, come to think of it) whose last name (and therefore door name-plate) was Elder, and who always wore white shirts with a tie to work. He got ribbed a lot about it. "Convert any heathens today, Elder?"
I loved my mission! It was one of the greatest times of my life. I met the greatest people on earth and I never wanted to leave. I don't think the church is true anymore and I do think Joseph Smith was a pretty bad guy, but I'm glad for the time I spent in S. America. edit: I was poor and I didn't grow up in the church so I had to work all summer, sell my car, and ask someone else for help to pay for it. That was embarrassing, but I'm glad I went
I love your videos! Also! You forgot to mention how your missionary companion changes every six weeks or so. Which means that make lasting and meaningful relationships are so difficult when you have constantly changing companions. So now you are separated from your friends and family and don't even have stability with relationships you make with other people around you.
My mission was what activated my depression mental health illness the week I left which progressively grew to the point of suicidal ideation for the first time ever near the end of my mission which got me honorably sent home and then I’ve had crippling depression since for 10 years now 🥳
My God this guy is amazing. Great job! I actually started to question Mormonism (I was never a Mormon, but I thought they were like any other form of Christianity) for the first time when my close Mormon friend told me that women only went on missions for 1 1/2 years as opposed to men going 2, and I remember asking her if that was "kind of sexist" and she simply snapped at me and didn't ever answer my question.
My ex-girlfriend chose not to go on a mission because she wanted to go to college instead and she said lots of people in her church looked down on her for it. I’m glad she didn’t do it, the amount of literal brainwashing techniques involved is absolutely horrifying and disgusting.
Missionaries are also expected to delay pursuing an education or career, and then somehow be ready to get married and make a family within a few years of returning home.
You think and talk a little too fast for me to always keep up! But when I do keep up, it is always interesting. I stopped going to church after I turned 18 (I seemed to know at a young age being a missionary was not for me - I think my family somewhat considers me an infidel), but always wondered what kind of life a missionary leads. I didn't realize how strict the rules are, since almost everyone I know that served says how wonderful it was. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jake, I'm a new LDS Member who came to know Jesus only 3 years ago. My career has been in teaching nutrition to low-income families in Philadelphia, PA. I've been so fortunate to meet other members who are humanitarians and research scientists helping to cure cancer, eradicate poverty and disease worldwide, and all in my tiny little ward. I can't wait to meet more Mormons.
I'm pretty sure the JWs have put me at the back of the binder marked with the notation, "don't bother with her again". I wonder if the JWs and LDSs share their data with each other. It'd make for more efficient proselytizing. ;)
Couple young ladies showed up on the porch a couple days back. I said "Lemme guess: Utah. Salt Lake City. Church of Latter Day Saints." . . . Yep. I was right. So I explained that my wife and I are nonbelievers, atheists, and that I had read the book of Mormon and had also read the Laws of the Lord and also Oahspe and the Upanishad and the Koran and I was still an atheist. At which point, after a bit more discussion, one of the young women -- who had a gorgeous smile & a pleasant demeanor, possibly well-trained in that regard -- told me that she knew Jesus lives, that the Book of Mormon was true revelation and that if I'd read it through, I would see the truth and come to Jesus and all that. . . . I told her that was cool, I appreciated her talking with me and that it was obvious that her faith was deep. I then advised the two ladies that this neighborhood was gonna be a challenge to 'em. Crack head lives behind me. Lady across the street's Roman Catholic and teaches in the church. Some of my neighbors are illiterate morons and some of 'em is thugs and there's a whole cult lives in that old church around the corner. And a bunch of folks around here will be "Get the hell off'n mah porch!" And one of 'em's a Turkish Muslim. So they had their work cut out for 'em, those two young women. Then we shook hands and off they went. . . . I'm guessing I screwed up their metrics.
mormonism is practically unknown in australia, unlike the seventh day adventists and the jehovahs witnesses are well known and growing rapidly. the mormon lds church is tiny and just a few old people in their wards. stakes have closed down and government stastics show that the lds mormon church declined 6.6 percent in a 5 year period. from young ROBERT IN AUSTRALIA
How much I love you showing what its really like,all about money all about power,the two things Jesus hated the most.You cannot change someones thinking being brought up in a cult,they tell you you will lose everything,and be a apostate.How sick is that.I was brought up in the catholic cult>I left after confirmation,knew this was wrong at thirteen,my family said okay find your path and I found Jesus.It is that simple,we have one life and one path that WE choose no one else.Jesus weeps.
Spencer Menno Catholicism isn’t a cult. You have free will. If you knew who compiled the Bible, you’d know the truth. If you read your Bible, you’d know that The Catholic Church is the sole guardian of the Bible.
Also the Bishop decides whether or not you are "mentally capable" of serving a mission! And if you extreme high functioning Autism you are considered not mentally capable of serving a mission but if you have Down's syndrome you are mentally capable to serve fulltime missions
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This is fantastic! My mission was the only time in my life that I dealt with depression, anxiety, and an identity crippling sense of inadequacy. My mission was easily the least healthy thing psychologically I've ever experienced. This video lays out exactly how this happens to people. Thank you forever my man!!!
+No Nonsense Lisa I'm glad I never went on a mission. I felt depressed and anxious all the time I was a Mormon. A mission would have destroyed me completely!
How are you doing today? Are you still in the church? I reach out to the missionaries as much as possible. As long as they will talk to me. I want to encourage them to get to know the Jesus of the New Testament. The Jesus that paid their debt in full with no conditions based on their performance. Not the one that simply refinanced their loan.
I went to a mission and had the worst 2-year psychological roller coaster of my life. My mission president threw a chair at me because we went to a mall (it was not allowed to go to mall in our mission).
I feel exactly the same way!
@@Cuinn837 Aren't you orthodox now my friend.
As an archaeologist with a black wife, I have always wanted mormon missionaries to come to my house.
What's your address I'll send em over!
Skyler Baird
ABQ, New Mexico. Midtown area.
+Rarrrrrr Wow! You people are truly sick.
+jebus6kryst OH yeah, as an archeologist aybe you could help these guys out too www.ldsliving.com/Omani-Sultan-Allows-LDS-Archaeologists-to-Dig-at-Nephi-s-Bountiful/s/81300
+kay jay Don't listen to him.
seriously, these videos are healing my scarred mormon past. YOu are amazing. Everything is SPOT ON
Timothy Stratton same here!
My sentiments exactly!!!! Funny how Bro. Joseph Smith always got a pass.
same here
Brother Jake, I was a bad, bad missionary. When I was a district leader and any of my missionaries who hadn't baptized for a while, got the dreaded letter from the mission home asking them which rules they were breaking (because of course you cannot obey all the rules and not baptize), I would collect those letters and burn them at district meetings, telling my missionaries it was BS and not christian to assume people were doing something wrong if they didn't baptize. I hope this got them thinking enough to eventually become atheists like me.
People need to realize that these men-children have been brainwashed all their lives to believe. Please be nice to them and help them see there's a wonderful world of secularism out there where they don't have to live in mental and emotional slavery.
+Grafight23 When I went on a mission, I mailed most of my stuff to myself at the mission as directed by the mission president. Being the spiritually inspired leader that my mission president was, he went through everything and decided what I got to keep and mailed everything else back to my parents while I was in the MTC. As a dumb 19 year old, it seemed a little suspicious why an inspired leader would commit a federal offense against all incoming missionaries, but now its not so suspicious; rather quite obvious. My only regret is that I didn't press charges when I had the opportunity to do so.
Caleb
Ah, the MTC. After my mission I worked there for a while... few things will rub off your testimony faster than working at the MTC. I would cringe when I listened to the young missionaries enthusiastically proclaim "I KNOW" beyond doubt that this or that doctrine was true (except they often had it wrong and were testifying of things the church doesn't believe). You quickly realize that such "solemn witness" is pure BS.
As an ex-missionary who just came home from the mission and came out as an atheist I send you respect.
Grafight23 ty
Grafight23 I was never Mormon and never a missionary. I'm also not an atheist but I think you were probably the best District leader. If I had to do something like that I think I would appreciate somebody like you.
Being a missionary is hell. I went through a crisis of faith on my mission and I've just returned home. What might be even worse is how the members and my member family treats me here.
The gaslighting that goes into being a missionary is astounding. This hits so damn close to home. I’m still dealing with negative effects from my mission.
Gosh, I never realized how complicated this all is from an outsider perspective until you made this twelve minute video and still only managed to touch the surface of how messed up the missionary program is.
This video illustrates why you should be nice when these poor kids try to proselytize. On the way back from work, I saw some mormon kids biking on the side of highway in 22 degree weather. It made me sad :(
Knowing how fucked up the system that most of these poor young people are trapped, with all of its emotional and psychological manipulation, is why I'm always nice whenever I run into missionaries or they knock on my door.
+Mirandu Kan As someone diagnosed with depression on her mission, and who was emotionally abused by her companion, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. It was hard enough without people being rude.
Yeah, I always offer them beer and cigarettes. And sex. But only if they're cute.
For some strange reason they always make an excuse to leave.
@@bdf2718ok that'd be uncomfortable to anyone that's just weird
Hi Brother Jake. I used to live in Seoul, South Korea and there were a pair of missionaries who would speak to people at the intersection where my office was. They approached me one day on my way out of work and flat out said “We know you don’t want to be Mormon. We just want to talk to people who speak English for a minute.” They asked if I have a religion and I said Im Catholic and attend the church nearby. They seemed rather lonely and distressed since Korea is a very insular culture that they said they were making no progress spreading Mormonism in because Koreans viewed them as part of a cult (cults are very common in Korea and people have little patience for them). Anyway, Im glad you’ve opened my eyes to see that there’s no way at all these young missionaries could have been desperately lonely after being thrown into one of the most insular cultures on earth because most of their time was filled up with making progress for their church and not even time wasters like exploring new ideas or engaging in some downtime activities.
I came back early from my mish and went to the sacrament meeting at my local ward, nobody would even talk to me, they didn't even ask why, just gave me the silent treatment
fuck them for real
that's a disgrace.
can we ask why? I wouldn't have asked either, would have just act like it was normal cause we're no one to judge xx
@@azydinkins5188 I wouldn't ask (my bother came back early and he hated when people would ask) but don't give them the silent treatment either
Caroline Abbott no I won’t, I actually don’t understand why I asked that ahahah
I discovered your video series yesterday. They are absolutely funny, healing (if you are a former Mormon), and entertaining. Thank you! Keep pointing out more topics like tithing settlement, temple ceremony, food storage, Smith's bank failure, crying for scripture, polyandry (Smith married other men's wives), or maybe the Carthage Jail shootout where a "Lamb lead to slaughter" kills two men....
Thanks!!!
C Whitener Joseph Smith had a lot of love in his heart for others especially the sisters in the church. He would unconditionally share his love to all sister and didn’t discriminate just because they were 14 or married to someone else’. Brother Joseph understood the big picture of the gospel, you have to provide bodies for all the unborn spirits that need to come to this earth.
Completely. Utterly. Brilliant.
Thank you for dredging up all of those memories... I think. :)
This hits such a very *special* spot with me.
I have PTSD from my experience serving a Mormon mission.
damn dude...that is awful
I am so sorry to hear that. Well wishes from an Internet stranger. I hope you are well fellow human
Wow, I didn't know they made missionaries go at 18 now. Makes sense from the church perspective to do so, not leaving any time after graduating high school to allow them to think it through and back out, like I did.
I get so excited when you upload
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PHILL SHIVELY you can't spell lol
awesome video! i've seen both sides of the missionary program. the pressure is real. if you don't go, that will be all you hear about. mormonism is totally not a cult though. thank you brother jake.
+Alex Lichty I don't like ANY religious people coming to my door and trying to sell their brand of religion to me. I was just saying, that I have been on both sides. (also the "mormonism is totally not a cult" was sarcasm) I used to go to a mormon church, and I've had them knock on my door. I send them away just like everyone else (7th day, witness, etc.). The Catholic church is the one true church eh? How do you know? All of them claim to be "the one and only true church". (Not sure if you're trolling with that comment, considering the channel) I'm an atheist, so they are all ridiculous to me. Most of the time I politely tell them that I'm not interested. They then leave. Not really a big deal. When I was single and living alone I occasionally had them do small chores (they ask to do them), like taking out the trash. It amused me. :P
Mormon Jesus is a funny thing to read... xD
P.S. how do you feel about J Witnesses harassing you at your door? :P
***** Lmao. It's stuff like this that makes me glad I'm an atheist. Looking at the ridiculous claims of religion, I don't have to worry about cherry picking stuff that makes sense, or try to say my religion somehow is less ridiculous than the others. Exorcism is still a thing that people believe in. Also remember the politician that stole the pope's water to bless himself and his family with? Also what the heck is a Scapular? :P
"Mormonism is totally not a cult" you should always ask the missionaries name one cult that calls itself a cult..... Almost every cult considers itself the true possessor of all truth.... And members feel so fortunate to have found the one path... So see Mormonism is not a cult
Do a video on "super special VIP heaven" explaining what it is and what you get to do when you're there!
We never got Mormons where I lived, only JWs on a regular basis. I guess they have a similar schedule though I bet it isn't so ultra-intensive.
After your explanation, I feel sorry for the Mormon proselytizers. I'm more likely to invite them in and offer them a free hour of funtime on my computer with a side order of chocolate milkshake and cookies and send them away with some comic books for later.
JE Hoyes haha sounds fun. I am unfortunate enough to live in the dead center of Mormonism, in Utah. The super religious mormon culture is really suffocating. Everyone expects everyone else to be mormon and go to church on Sundays and go to Activity Days and Young Womens'.And the first question they ask when trying to get to know you is "What ward are you in?" They definitely need cookies.
ex Mormon here, plz do so, just don't give comic books since its evidence. also bring them up to speed on curent tv.
When I was growing up, my family lived in a neighborhood that included about 5 Mormon families, with kids about the same age as me and my siblings...we had a basement that is almost like a little apartment, so we hosted a few Mormon missionaries for a little while...of course, when my older sister turned 15, missionaries could not live in our house anymore even though they NEVER even walked up the stairs to the ground floor level or above (the basement had a separate entrance)...because a 15 year old girl resided there! That would be just preposterous to allow 2 18-year-old males living under the same roof as a 15-year-old female to whom they are not related! Can you imagine the type of debauchery that would encourage??
I have to say that these young men were extremely polite, and very quiet - most of the time, I forgot they were even there, except when I saw their bikes by the basement door...probably because they WEREN'T there, due to the crazy schedule they were expected to follow. I always wondered why it was ok with the church for the missionaries to stay with a non-religious family...my parents were not outspoken atheists, but it was certainly known that we did not attend church or belong to a religion.
I miss you!
You need to update this with Nelson's Las Vegas youth speech where he tells the youth the only reason they are alive on earth is to serve a mission.
What!? Is that real? Do you have a link?
I almost took a pass on this because I thought I pretty much knew how Mormon Missionaries worked. What a revelation! Well done!!
Awesome as always! I get excited every time you upload :)
O.O my sister is on a mission. I knew it was cray, but I didn't know the details. something all the non Mormons I know are surprised to hear is that she has to pay for it herself. they assume the church is paying her for her service.
"pay out of pocket"
Yeah sounds like a real deal. I mean the LDS church surely can't afford to pay for them itself. It's not like its a multi-million dollar tax shelter.
If you cannot afford it for whatever reason they'll pay for you to go but you're right it is expected that your family or yourself pays.
+Wesley Brock *multi-billion
Do you have any Idea how much it costs to build a temple out of the finest resources?
Edit: And maintain.
@@jacobaarongarner Don't forget the mall.
@@jacobaarongarner Without looking it up, I think I heard once that an average temple is like $50 million. But I could be wrong.
I want the two years of my life I spent as a Mormon missionary back. Hell, I want the first 35 years of my life that I spent in this mind-controling cult back.
@kiwibrown, there wasn’t just one thing.
It was more the culmination of many, many things that just didn’t add up after years of careful thought, research, and, yes, even prayer.
Ultimately it all boiled down to the realization that I had no more reason to believe that the god of the Bible and the Book of Mormon exists than I do to believe that Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Odin, Anubis, or any of the other hundreds of gods ever worshipped throughout all of recorded human history actually exist.
And once I’d had that realization, that was pretty much the nail in the coffin for the rest of the whole religion thing.
Any religion.
That was impressively entertaining and informative. Telltale sent me.
"also is your wife home" bahahahahaha
+Alex Lichty I used to be. I resigned around 2 years ago.
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That high expectation for males to serve a mission tends to make mormons critical of those who don't go. I knew a guy who went into the Marines right out of high school, skipping a mission. Instead of going himself he helped his parents fund his older brother & sister who were preparing for their missions. Yet a lot of "good" mormons in the single adult wards he was in during his time in the Marines looked down on him because he never went on a mission.
When Monson said "to respond to the call to serve,", I heard "to resolve our cultist urge." Probally shows how much I hate this idealogy.
This one is easily one of my most favorite thus far! Great job!
I just can't get enough Brother Jake! Thanks for the memories of my mission. I just wish I had bought beer from those wonderful Japanese vending machines. Some missionaries did.
I'm supposed to be on my mission right now :)
It was a two year prison sentence and I was one of those that worked hard and took it seriously. Those that come home and say "it was the best two years of my life" are so full of bull crap but we all said it.
This makes things so much more clear, thanks Brother Jake!
Hey, I love your videos so much! You mentioned charitable things here, as if they're not done. One of the things my mom nags about is how charitable the church is and all the things it does to help the poor and provide aid during tragedies. While that's not... false... it's not as much as it could be. I recently rewatched your tithing video, and it wasn't mentioned much there either. I was just wanting to suggest, if and when you get a chance to make a video in which that would be a pertinent topic, I would be of benefit from a video in which that is disputed.
Anyway, I love your videos and can never get enough of them! Thanks for all you do!
The only thing I got from this was a desire to play Mario, and buy a SHAM WOW!
Also, lady missionaries aren't allowed to wear pants; they can only wear skirts. Apparently also because of lady stuff.
They actually changed that recently. Women can wear slacks now.
@@totalhufflepuff203 yep they're really progressive now! LOL
Nailed it! "You can always come home.. no big deal." lolol
Once I got really depressed and wrote my best friend who was on a mission, and his mission president answered, saying I shouldn't bother him with my problems because he had to be focused, plus e-mail wasn't for friends at the time, only family, so how dared I to force him being disobedient. pretty cool guy tho, He said he was gonna pray for me :).
nailed it!!!!
During my mission, we couldn't use email. Goodness it was boring.
My new favorite thing is the girl hoarding all the dolls. Her expression is perfect.
dude this stuff is spot on. Just seeing it now, and coming from this background, this is hilarious... and scary af.
Absolutely amazing work. Brother Jake is a f-ing genius. EXTRAORDINARILY WELL-WRITTEN, Jake.
Another fantastic video!
Your sarcasm levels are godly
Wow, my mission was really laid back. No one really paid much attention to the rules. I also had never experienced hazing until I went on my mission. Provo, Utah if anyone was wondering.
You've convinced me. I want to sign up so I can go to planet -Bollocks- Kolob.
Thank goodness my parents never pushed it on me as much because I could never last.
The "someone might ask" -voice is hilarious :D
The DBZ pic for having fun in super heaven makes me laugh every time, you rock this shit's hilarious
I remember getting emails from our stepson while he was on his mission. The whole thing would be about the gospel according to JS. Or JC. Word vomit from a brainwashed, indoctrinated kid. So sad.
I just can’t wait to do cool God stuff. I’m starting right now! I just moved Alpha Centauri!
Best one yet. Great job, hope to see more videos!
Oh no, I served a mission and I’m still going to miss out on super vip heaven.
Caleb You'll be in the low rent district of heaven (Terrestrial) with most other Mormons.
And members still don't get why I resent the church for duping me to go on a mission
God! Er, eh... Elo'hiem! I love brother Jake! (i only found out about him because of TBR and I'm glad I did!)
+Tom Riddle cough cough.. I was the one that showed TBR Brother Jake. I love TBR, been watching the channel since it had like 20 subscribers. I'm not sure how I found brother Jake, probably suggested video section. I like to refer to this Jake as Bizzaro Jake.
fartzinwind as opposed to the badger, I'd imagine
You are soooo funny! This is amazing dude.
This makes me really really really concerned about my Mormon friends because I wanna tell them everything I’ve learned and help them but they’re so fucking brainwashed and I don’t know what to dooooo
cant. stop. laughing.
So accurate. 10/10 execution. Love the vids.
I think I'll be asking the missionaries I've been seeing this week if they're doing ok
Wow! So Informative! All though learning about it this way is GREAT. ( Because you know LEARNING~ ) I do get happy when Brother Jake uploads too.
As a black woman, I 've always want to talk to mormons about their beliefs -- mostly because I want to engage them in thoughts and conversation. ( and if this learning as a deep as it sounds.. my 'outsiders will hopefully give them pause'.
"Yay, lady stuff" is going to be stuck in my head for days, lol.
If the mormon church takes 10% of every member's income why don't they pay for missions?
some of the cash dose go to the porer members missions
You don't have to pay compelled volunteers
PforPanthera,
The Mormon church does, in fact, ask each member to give 10% of their "net gain," and the member determines the number from that broad guidance.
How many comply with the request for 10 % is anybody's guess. My guess is that half of the members give 10% of their money.
As the other commenter hinted, the church has no motivation to pay every member's mission expenses; the church can populate the missionary training centers to maximum capacity every month without paying every member's missionary expenses.
Members are taught that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints began with six members because that was the minimum number of people required to start a church in the state of New York. My point is that it was not a wealthy organization for many years. The tradition of the church not paying a missionary's expenses has carried on for 190 years.
In cases where parents pay for their child's mission expenses, U.S.A. I.R.S. law requires parents to funnel monthly payments through the church to get a yearly tax deduction.
There is money going out of the church at the same rate as it is going into the church, with regards to parents who pay for their children's mission.
Some of those parents get audited; whereas, the yearly cost of a mission is often greater than 10 percent of their income--a red flag for the I.R.S.
I am astonished by the majority of teenagers that pay for their own mission expenses with their own savings (for example, my biological brother). In this case, the first tax year expenditures (and, for a man serving 48 months, some of the second tax year expenditures) cannot be carried over as a tax deduction, when a self-providing missionary gains a paying job upon return from the mission field after one tax year.
Incredible. Brilliant critique, and I pity the apologist who tries to rebut.
+bjjolley Agreed! I am replying so if any apologist does try in reply to your comment, I will be notified of it and can watch the resulting fireworks. :-)
I used to work with a young blond guy (who looked a lot like Brother Jake, come to think of it) whose last name (and therefore door name-plate) was Elder, and who always wore white shirts with a tie to work. He got ribbed a lot about it. "Convert any heathens today, Elder?"
I loved my mission! It was one of the greatest times of my life. I met the greatest people on earth and I never wanted to leave. I don't think the church is true anymore and I do think Joseph Smith was a pretty bad guy, but I'm glad for the time I spent in S. America. edit: I was poor and I didn't grow up in the church so I had to work all summer, sell my car, and ask someone else for help to pay for it. That was embarrassing, but I'm glad I went
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"Now, at this point some of you might be thinking" (Zoolander voice)
These videos are awesome!
I wish you could update this since some of the rules in the Missionary Handbook have been changed.
I love your videos! Also! You forgot to mention how your missionary companion changes every six weeks or so. Which means that make lasting and meaningful relationships are so difficult when you have constantly changing companions. So now you are separated from your friends and family and don't even have stability with relationships you make with other people around you.
i think quite a few learn how to be door to door salesmen selling bug killing services after they get back home.
There are alot of bug killer young men in Washington County, Utah.
My mission was what activated my depression mental health illness the week I left which progressively grew to the point of suicidal ideation for the first time ever near the end of my mission which got me honorably sent home and then I’ve had crippling depression since for 10 years now 🥳
My God this guy is amazing. Great job! I actually started to question Mormonism (I was never a Mormon, but I thought they were like any other form of Christianity) for the first time when my close Mormon friend told me that women only went on missions for 1 1/2 years as opposed to men going 2, and I remember asking her if that was "kind of sexist" and she simply snapped at me and didn't ever answer my question.
You know, lady stuff. * Love it *
thank you :)
Wow, it's gotten a lot more regimented since I was out, 1980-81.
My ex-girlfriend chose not to go on a mission because she wanted to go to college instead and she said lots of people in her church looked down on her for it. I’m glad she didn’t do it, the amount of literal brainwashing techniques involved is absolutely horrifying and disgusting.
Missionaries are also expected to delay pursuing an education or career, and then somehow be ready to get married and make a family within a few years of returning home.
Fantastic!!!
Do a video on planet Kolob! Pretty please!
Very convincing. Very clear now. When can I get baptized?
Most people don’t know there is a “record” or “teaching record” on you.
Just Deadpool I didn’t know that. Now I feel exposed and violated. lol
You think and talk a little too fast for me to always keep up! But when I do keep up, it is always interesting. I stopped going to church after I turned 18 (I seemed to know at a young age being a missionary was not for me - I think my family somewhat considers me an infidel), but always wondered what kind of life a missionary leads. I didn't realize how strict the rules are, since almost everyone I know that served says how wonderful it was. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jake, I'm a new LDS Member who came to know Jesus only 3 years ago. My career has been in teaching nutrition to low-income families in Philadelphia, PA. I've been so fortunate to meet other members who are humanitarians and research scientists helping to cure cancer, eradicate poverty and disease worldwide, and all in my tiny little ward. I can't wait to meet more Mormons.
I'm pretty sure the JWs have put me at the back of the binder marked with the notation, "don't bother with her again". I wonder if the JWs and LDSs share their data with each other. It'd make for more efficient proselytizing. ;)
I kind of doubt it, as JWs really look down on Mormons...and anyone else who isn't a JW.
Couple young ladies showed up on the porch a couple days back. I said "Lemme guess: Utah. Salt Lake City. Church of Latter Day Saints."
. . . Yep. I was right. So I explained that my wife and I are nonbelievers, atheists, and that I had read the book of Mormon and had also read the Laws of the Lord and also Oahspe and the Upanishad and the Koran and I was still an atheist. At which point, after a bit more discussion, one of the young women -- who had a gorgeous smile & a pleasant demeanor, possibly well-trained in that regard -- told me that she knew Jesus lives, that the Book of Mormon was true revelation and that if I'd read it through, I would see the truth and come to Jesus and all that.
. . . I told her that was cool, I appreciated her talking with me and that it was obvious that her faith was deep. I then advised the two ladies that this neighborhood was gonna be a challenge to 'em. Crack head lives behind me. Lady across the street's Roman Catholic and teaches in the church. Some of my neighbors are illiterate morons and some of 'em is thugs and there's a whole cult lives in that old church around the corner. And a bunch of folks around here will be "Get the hell off'n mah porch!" And one of 'em's a Turkish Muslim. So they had their work cut out for 'em, those two young women. Then we shook hands and off they went.
. . . I'm guessing I screwed up their metrics.
mormonism is practically unknown in australia, unlike the seventh day adventists and the jehovahs witnesses are well known and growing rapidly. the mormon lds church is tiny and just a few old people in their wards. stakes have closed down and government stastics show that the lds mormon church declined 6.6 percent in a 5 year period. from young ROBERT IN AUSTRALIA
They refer preparation day as p day, when I first heard it I thought it was personal day, boy was I wrong.
These videos are goddamn hilarious!
excellent
How much I love you showing what its really like,all about money all about power,the two things Jesus hated the most.You cannot change someones thinking being brought up in a cult,they tell you you will lose everything,and be a apostate.How sick is that.I was brought up in the catholic cult>I left after confirmation,knew this was wrong at thirteen,my family said okay find your path and I found Jesus.It is that simple,we have one life and one path that WE choose no one else.Jesus weeps.
Spencer Menno Catholicism isn’t a cult. You have free will. If you knew who compiled the Bible, you’d know the truth. If you read your Bible, you’d know that The Catholic Church is the sole guardian of the Bible.
I like the subtle HRC logo on the book of mormon at 3:20. Once again Bro Jake outdoes himself....
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I love mormon apologetic belief....
*They have sister training leaders (zone leaders) now. Just FYI.
I saw a video of these young men burning one of those white shirts and one acting especially joyful about it, in a crazy joyful way, 😆
Also the Bishop decides whether or not you are "mentally capable" of serving a mission! And if you extreme high functioning Autism you are considered not mentally capable of serving a mission but if you have Down's syndrome you are mentally capable to serve fulltime missions