I was literally just telling my friend yesterday how nice it is to have someone who can tell me about all these awful things without me having to actually see them myself.
YES. May is unironically doing a public service. I've seen a lot of this stuff, and I'm glad I don't have to see ALL of it now, just to know it's out there.
Yes it satisfies my morbid curiosity because I know I can't handle this stuff anymore. Maybe way back when I was a teenager but not now. And the way May describes things makes me laugh.
One thing I don’t like about that moth guy’s coverage is he looks for these things and puts censored visuals and the sounds(!) with it🥶. That point it feels real exploitative
@@ladygrey4113 yeah and I’m glad May recognizes that it can be very disturbing to include that. I’m also glad May brought up the brink thing in part one and how it messed with her.
I remember hearing about a girl who survived the Las Vegas shooting. She had just overcome cancer and gone to the concert to celebrate. I’ve never forgotten that story. Truly harrowing. Also, thank you for giving these stories the care and respect they deserve. Have a great day May. Edit: Her name is Cassidy Huff.
okay so obviously this is a subject to be taken seriously and all but if i may throw one out of pocket comment out there, i think that girl might be living in a final destination movie
That´s the thing I liked the most on this video is to mention these tragedies because it serves a purpose: Most of you can relate and I'm glad there's a lot of comments like this showing lots of empathy towards this. Yet as May pointed out, people that are into 'gore' and make and discuss this icebergs normally do not feel even a little bit since they otherize the people on said videos: it's no coincidence that this list contains so much stuff about Narco violence by the bottom and not a lot about these types of mass shootings attacks in 'The west' so to speak. But think about how hearing about the Las Vegas shooting and this story makes you feel. Think how common these stories are. Now try to imagine there's been over 350,000 people killed in this fashion or disappearing forever knowing that it is almost certainty that they just didn't happen to film another Narco video that day but that probably happened to them. This is over the course of just 15 years or so. It basically means that these stories are not only common, but they happen to someone you personally knew. More than once. I know of at least 5 people I personally knew here in México that were killed. Some of them with the actual descriptions of mutilations you've heard about in this video. This is what we have to live with with more stories piling up literally every day, on top of gringos dreaming about the bad ass Heisenberg fighting 'THE cartel' on TV and creeps watching this execution videos for their racist entertainment.
The machine thing is SO true. When I was 2 years old, I curiously touched the belt of my mom's treadmill while she was running on it and got my hand sucked in. It was like a smaller scale version of what happens on an escalator: most of the skin on my hand was ripped off and had to be sewn back on. Machines will stop for nothing, lol. Love you, May!
it brings to mind all the stories of workplace accidents, especially the ones that lead to casualties. I once watched a video of people being pinned down by robot arms because they didn't pay attention and accidentally got in the way of their movement and it was aweful just hearing the screams or seeing them unable to move.
Best video you've ever done. The end of the video makes me think. People in the U.S. get really upset every 9-11, because other cultures make jokes about it, or refuse to care in any way, and it really bothers us that it means nothing to them. That is how we should be thinking about things like the "cartel videos" from now on. Also, yes, people need to care more and do more about the harm toward marginalized people in our own back yard.
I want to say thank you. As a black woman in the us, when watching these nsfl videos I often feel a strange disconnection. It's not that I don't see the tragedy of these occurences but we rarely acknowledge how atrocious america is on the daily.
for the father hanging his son, the father was trying to enforce a suicide pact onto his family against their will. the daughter was filming it out of shock and fear and sent it to other people, leading to the father’s eventual arrest. the wife also committed suicide but it’s been questioned whether or not this was by her own hands. the father has been arrested and most likely charged, which is the silver lining. however, the daughter is still very traumatized by the entire incident
Honestly that makes it just a touch better, that she wasn't just filming for fun, but I'm also unhappy that she was in that situation and became traumatized
It was a son who was “possessed” in the Burari hangings, and even weirder, he acted as the father of the family for many years before the hanging happened. There’s a great documentary called House of Secrets that goes into the police investigation and the reaction of neighbors, and also dives deep into the writings the son left behind. It’s wild.
I think you’re one of the few “gore” UA-camrs who actually talk about perspective and the BIG xenophobic/racist pipeline of the most gore-y content .. people act like for example American soldiers/government didn’t do worse/same unprompted .. it totally has the lens of “look at these savages” The “gore” I had in a middle eastern country wayyyy before isis beheadings is isreali soldiers brutality and abu gareb torture And I see no one talking bout these in the gore community and I can’t think of any other reason rather than a certain narrative So THANK YOU for talking about it
Thanks for being respectful when bringing up the Junko Furuta case. I feel like 60% of the time whenever people talk about her, it’s always in some weird dehumanizing “wooow look at what these crazy violent Japanese people did!!! so spooky!!” way and it puts a bad taste in my mouth. They don’t actually care or look into /why/ a girl was tortured for various months while many people knew and no one intervened and helped, and why the perpetrators got off with a slap on the wrist. No one ever talks about why we as a society have gotten to this level where awful shit like this is allowed to happen. Also, the fact a few exploitation films were made off her murder too is pretty gross. :/ Anyways, great video!! ✌️✌️✌️
Most of the teenage boys who murdered Junko lived in poor household where they had little parental guidance and supervision, all the while being pushed down further by their poor performance and attendance in school. When it comes to Japan and heinous crimes there is always a very thin line between actual human degeneracy and societal pressure breaking someone’s humanity. But yes there is still a problem with that whole society taking a very light approach when shit like this pops up. The punishment for Junko’s murderers are insultingly light, and don’t forget that cannibal murderer who got off free because his crime was committed in France and then he got celebrated in Japan. It is such a paradox isn’t it? That society asks so much out of good men while doing so little to punish bad ones. Japan is a very flawed country.
No, this was a gang involved kid who had a history of sexually harassing girls and got mad a girl smarter than him rejected him. Even when she was tortured she still could beat him at chess.
The Junko story really hurts my heart. she's buried in HTX now and I think I would like to bring flowers to her grave. Edit: the description at the end of how you felt after the mall shooting really hits home. It's how I have been feeling ever since witnessing a shooting in the parking lot of a grocery store around the same time as losing my mom.
Her Grave was actually vandalized once, probably by the same scumbags' parents. Picture this, they firmly stated that Junko was the one who ruined their sons' lives. What the fuck.
thank you for talking about the prevalence of cartel videos and such "it could never happen here" content as someone who has lived a non-insignificant portion of my life in countries people see as "inferior" (i was born in france but largely raised in nepal as well as some other SEA countries, i now live in france again) i have always been very aware of how people find entertainment in violence but only so long as it happens "over there" these are the places i grew up in. i have witnessed tsunamis and earthquakes. an army man loudly searched our bus, a common occurrence, and pointed his rifle in my face before smiling and handing me a huge bullet when i was 4. to this day i am scared of army and police patrolling the street. the place i took my first steps in no longer exists, due to natural disasters. i grew up immersed in the kind of random violence we in the west so love romanticise. civil war, dirty streets, a building falling with people still inside. people have sympathy for me because of it, but i cant help but think how much sympathy would i actually get if i wasnt white. i am also jewish and queer. a few years ago neo nazis raided a bar not far from where i lived, saying they were there to "kill jews and f**gots". a few people ended up in the hospital with really nasty wounds. the violence is not alien, it's happening right now at our gates as it always has. it was true when i was living in these far-off places where terrible things "that could never happen here" happen, as it is true now that i live in a so-called "civilised" country.
This kind of mindset is especially a problem in the US. But nobody really thinks about how so much horrible depraved shit happens in the US daily. I feel like a lot of people, understandably so, are easily able to detach themselves from stuff they see in videos and online, and thus never truly think about the reality of these things and how it isn't just a problem with a given area or country, but with humans as a whole.
thank you for that whole section on the phantasmagorical aspect of this stuff. sometimes it really is just the ideas that are as disturbing as the actual events. ofc we're inundated with images of police brutality now, but the thought of "that could be me, or maybe one of my siblings. just one wrong move on a random Tuesday" that always pops up in my brain, shits FUCKED when I worked outside of the US for a couple years and I'd see mass casualty events show up on international news, it became doubly bizarre. because then it's like, "oh.... I don't worry about that stuff while I'm here.... but I DID have to think about it back home". which made me feel guilty sometimes?? that I was living a life where I didn't have to worry about a guy deciding he wants to rampage in a super market in THAT way, but everyone I love back home does... once again shits FUCKED
The part about incidences haunting communities really struck a chord with me. I live in an area of Northern England which is known for being the site of the Mary Bell murders. It’s all fun and games watching true crime UA-camrs wash on about how shocking it was, but driving past the actual literal murder sites to get to college and hearing it instinctively brought up whenever I tell someone where I live will never stop being a surreal and jarring experience. Great video May!
Oh man, I feel this so hard. I live in New Zealand and a very high profile murder happened in my city. The murderer killed his own family and they're buried in the town cemetery in my tiny small town. I've only seen a few people cover the "case"- I stumbled upon the grave with my friends when I was fourteen. We left immediately because we all knew what happened and even though we were happily smoking and drinking and reading among the dead before, that killed our whole buzz. Cognitive dissonance is crazy.
My version of this was growing up seeing billboards for Jacob Wetterling on the way to visit my grandparents for years and years of my childhood. I remember a few years ago someone barging into a comment section when his body was found saying maybe the parents were involved in his death and they got eviscerated. His mom never stopped searching for him and part of the communal wound was feeling protective of her
On this subject I really recommend Colin Dickey's book Ghostland, where he talks about ghost stories but in the context of what they mean to us culturally and essentially all the causes/effects around a lot of famous ghost stories/haunted houses/urban legends. Specifically there's one section about a ghost in New Orleans who supposedly haunts a specific street corner- and explaining the reason that legend was born was bc a well known local woman died when Katrina hit and her body was just left on that corner for over a week due to the slow and ineffective response from the govt. The whole book is great and really emphasizes how these stories that are thrilling and spooky when you're not attached to them can have real impacts on the communities they are from or target. Def 10/10 esp if you're interested in that kind of analysis
talking about escalator accidents reminds me that, one time when i was very young, my mom saw a report on the news about someone with pants with loose cuffs or something getting caught in an escalator and killed horribly, and then she freaked the fuck out and warned me about it in a level of detail that was FRANKLY VERY UNNECESSARY and it was kinda traumatizing and being on an escalator will fuck me up really badly sometimes. i also gained a fear of heights and falling sometime in my mid-20s, making longer escalator rides terrifying for even more reasons! in short, why the fuck are escalators so horrifying.
Well I just think about how it all worksSz imagine the parts that rotate and the amount of heat/energy it’s producing. Be a incredibly powerful amd painful death!.
I have a severe phobia of escalators to the point where if I get too close to the mechanics of one, I can spiral into a panic attack. I fell down one and got caught in the mechanism when I was young, and haven’t been able to use one without tears and hyperventilating. For some reason, you saying they’re scary and it’s okay to just take the stairs made me feel so much better about it. I will continue to take the stairs!
I am Mexican, the way you talked about the mass shootings and police murders in the US, the way these things should be seen by American people, how the fear is just right below but you have to go on with your life... uh, that's how we deal with the cartel stuff here lmao, we don't fear we'll be funky town'd, but we might get gunned down at a streetcrossing because someone we know or an absolute stranger did something the LOCAL cartel didn't like and so on and so forth. Also kidnappings, literally everybody knows someone who just disappeared. But it's like... you gotta keep going so, it's so tiring to see how it's exoticized, thanks for talking about that aspect
I rarely watch end credits but that song is addicting. Also this series has been very helpful to break me out of my habit of seeking out NSFL content. It started with an innocent interest in anatomy and extreme situations/survival scenarios that went a bit too far. It worsened my depression to see so much suffering so frequently. Now when I get the compulsion to look for that kind of content I think "but why? how will this benefit me?" I still watch things like Human Anatomy Lab that are educational and use the cadavers of people who donated their bodies to science, and I've realized that makes much more sense than looking at a picture of somebody whose body is now soup.
I'm the same! I like to watch surgery footage because it satisfies my curiosity, but without showing me people suffering or dying! in fact, it gives me more faith in humanity seeing someone "repairing" another person.
This video was so good. Thank you May for all your research and nuanced conversation. As someone who comes from Venezuela but lives in the US I have definitely seen both sides, and I agree that there is evil everywhere. It does break my heart when I hear people call my country a shit hole when the reality is that we’ve been politically and economically fucked by both internal and external factors. Living in the US I have people tell me I should be grateful and I should stay quiet when there’s people being wrongfully killed by police, and literal children being slaughtered, and like yeah I’m grateful to be here but that doesn’t mean I can’t want better for everyone. I wish we’d have more conversations like these.
Man, I’m so glad you’re covering these topics because as someone who never jived with how so many UA-camrs and those in the NSFL community act around the topics in the videos, it’s really refreshing and helps to see these topics in a new, more compassionate way. Also just how you mentioned the mall incident at the end so casually..it shocks me sometimes how these things just happen (I’m in Canada so it’s not as common here but still) and we just have to move along like it’s just another Tuesday. Thanks for being a cool person, May
I’m glad you brought up the violence and shootings in America. It’s good to note that this shit is happening at home and we’re not any better than the people who did the cartel videos. It’s important to know that it’s not okay to get used to these attacks, and I’m so glad you added that commentary to this list.
The Junko case was something I came across on a seemingly innocuous tumblr post that was like 'fun random wikipedia articles to read when you're bored🥰💗' and I will NEVER forgive that person for just. Throwing that in there. It was one of things when I was reading it that I just... wanted so bad for it not to be real. Ended up crying about it and having a pretty shitty time! So I'm glad you brought it up even though it's not a video
only youtuber i’ve ever been able to watch and have genuine laughs with and find some relation to within myswlf and humor. love and appreciate you a ton may. you always know how to bring a smile to my face. thankyou for being you
On the subject on cannibalism, when I was in Thailand having SRS, a friend told me of another time she'd been in Thailand with a friend of hers who'd had the same operation. In those days, they would allow you to take all the left over bits home with you in a little jar. This person decided that it'd be fun to cook and eat those lumps of her own flesh. She went as far as cooking them, but then someone said that she should look into whether or not it's safe to do such a thing. Apparently consuming your own flesh can cause flesh eating bacteria and so doing this is not a good idea. However, she now had a frying pan with her cooked flesh in it and didn't know what to do with it. At the front of the hotel, there was a fish pond full of these tiny little fish. When no-one was looking, she dumped it in there and that was the end of that. A year later, she returned to Thailand for a follow up procedure and stayed at the same hotel. Out of curiosity, she decided to check out the fish pond. Those fish were now massive, perhaps from consuming all that left over testosterone, they were basically on steroids. And that is why they won't let you take home the left over bits of flesh after SRS anymore. At the time, I remember being disappointed by that, not because I would have eaten it or fed it to anyone else, but maybe I could have turned it into some sort of art piece or piece of jewellery. It would be a great conversation starter.
I hate to ask this but I'm curious, why would her surgically removed tumors or whatever have high levels of testosterone? Was it caused by the tumor or she's trans?
Thank you so, so much for getting into the political context on cartel videos and how those relate to other kinds of political violence, including ones we don't generally relate to as consumable as a curio. That was absolutely essential. One of the anthro classes I had in college had a a serious syllabus about how people deflect political violence, where the two big standouts were one of Mick Taussig's books on the drug war and James T. Siegel's Naming The Witch- it was all, like a lot of anthropological writing, about political violence Somewhere Else, specifically in Colombia and Indonesia, but I remember them being really good at connecting that to violence and deflection here. Highly recommended if you want to read books that relate to spectacular violence as being a manifestation of something very political and grounded. I also want to recommend to everyone the article by Cesar Albaran-Torres in Senses of Cinema about mediatised narco/cartel violence for more context about 'why are we seeing this'- it's a nice piece about the uses of horror in the political spectacle of the drug trade and the uses of narco-terror in horror.
Thank you for talking about Junko in such a succinct, empathic way. The way in which her final days alive have been exploited is nothing short of disgusting. Can't help but cry whenever i think about her. she had her entire life ahead of her, only to be turned into....like, a horrifying, weird patron saint of violence and torture.
Started watching your iceberg videos this week. I feel lucky to witness this third part on time. Thanks a lot for the outlook you’re sharing and the care you take to smooth things out, while being both bluntly and hilariously honest AND respecful.
10:22 reminds me of how, when I was little, I watched a Simpsons episode that had an Itchy and Scratchy short where Itchy stuck Scratchy's feet to a moving walkway and it skinned him alive...ever since then I've had an irrational fear of that happening to me
I’m a school shooting survivor, and living in America it’s completely wild how many people are also survivors of mass shooting and other acts of large scale violence, the US is a nightmare my dudes
i cant even begin to describe how thankful and just, mind blown i am that you survived a literal mall shooting. as someone who worked in a mall for 6 years including during the pandemic, that fear is present in you and everyone you meet and work with Every single day. Every time you go into the break room and see the 'evacuation route' chart on the fridge. every time you hear your manager in down moments muttering to themselves, 'oh well we could fit a few staff and/or customers behind the counter, flip a table and make a barricade here...' it is devastating. thank you for sharing it with us. i hope someday its not as immediate of a reality as it is right now.
It's really so important I think to have the meta-analysis in these videos as well. Not only just to contextualize the content itself, but also to invite people to think critically when they find themselves in the dark corners of the internet. Also I have to skip the Junko story every time I get to it in one of these sorts of lists. I have a pretty high tolerance for this sort of thing but that one just gets to me.
i live in a community where i hear gunshots at night at least every couple of weeks, and theres a lot of shootings that i see in the news. talking about how to keep ourselves safe and how to avoid being near places where this happens has become a regulat part of my life, even though i havent lived in an area like this till i moved out on my own. its crazy how fast you get used to hearing about shootings, consoling and being there for people who knew the person who was shot. my community has 14 year olds walking around with guns because they're afraid of being shot and killed. i knew one of those kids. he got shot and killed anyway. its terrifying, but you just cant think about it all the time because you have to survive. you have to keep going. everyone has become numb to it. A lot of the shootings are over personal disagreements. a lot of 'you disrespected me so now i have to kill you' shit. people just try to keep their head down. it feels like that's all we can do
6:30 This happened to me visiting Effed Up Movies, a platform for horror/gore independent/less known movies. I try to avoid the comments section and only watch the movie because GIRL, that people touch all the sides of anything x-phobic.
it sounds so weird to say 'thank you' for something like this, but i do genuinely appreciate the fact that you're acknowledging how fucked up and racist a lot of these nsfl community members are, along with such a well-articulated reasoning of WHY it happens and a caution to not fall into that line of thinking. and the things you added at the end are extremely relevant to that; the united states is a fucking horrorshow in terms of mass violence. i find it very hard to watch any live footage of crowds without being extremely anxious that Something's Gonna Happen, and that's a fucked up thing to be conditioned to do. ANYWAY im excited for your new book, and take care of yourself as best you can
hey i too was tangentially involved in a mall shooting. i didn't see the action but I was working at ye olde Gamestop when there was gunfire in the mall. My store manager ran outside and closed the gate to see what was going on and i took the customers (including like, 10 children), in the store room, theft be damned. I wasn't about to put a pre-owned xbox 360 controller and some scratched up shitty games over a life if it was really a mass shooter. Thankfully it wasn't, just a one on one confrontation that went too far. Nobody died but it was scary enough just to not KNOW if people were dying.
Hi May, you mentioned reading some books that helped you understand and explain events in the iceberg. What books would you recommend to gain a rounded view of events like these?
I always say this, some people who watch cartel/isis gore videos treat those videos as an invitation to be openly racist and xenophobic. I've read sooo many comments of people saying Brazil (or any South American country) is a hell hole and "you wouldn't catch me dead" in those places. Like, I love Disturbed Reality and his content, but the comment section is filled with jerks who say shit like this.
I appreciate you not putting on a spooky little voice and also the way you deescalate the topic in a rational way. Sometimes I think people who make these videos either make a joke of the situation or tell it like a scary story rather than tragic accidents as they usually are. Also it makes me okay indulging in this “gross” explanation content bc I know you allow me to in a safe way that won’t accidentally go to far before I can stop it
I love that I'm getting your new music uploads on my feed now as well! I'm blown away by your talent and originality! You're absolutely my favorite person I pretend to know on youtube🌒✨
May, I am so happy how nuanced you are about some of these topics. It is frustrating to be in communities of true crime and spooky stuff and it is rampant with xenophobia with no critical thought.
I'm Brazilian and my region is controlled my militias who are essentially death squads/mafias. They came from old anticommunist death squads from the dictatorship era and from there you had the political rise of Bolsonaro....yes, the current president of Brazil (not for long hopefully). I say this because recently a friend's son was assassinated by militias and some of her relatives told me this was filmed. I didn't try to watch the video but it's apparently a thing that militias film their killings and send them to relatives. That hit very close to home so I'm very glad you're pointing out the political nature of murders in Latin America.
Just wow. I'm late to the show but I must say how much I value your compassion and profoundness. If I put it incorrect, I'm sorry, no English practice for a long time. I think I love you. These 3 videos series is brilliant. Should be taught at schools. Yeah yeah I mean it. Thank you May! Stay safe and positive. You are a miracle!
Hi! Just wanna say I really really like you! I enjoy your content so much, and you're just dang great to listen to (and watch, if I'm not at work). I love the way you talk to us and you make me feel like I have a super cool friend who enjoys discussing NSFL, darker media, off the beaten path content, etc. I hope you have a super duper Halloween!! Xoxoxx PS I was JUST talking to my partner about how tbh the racism/sexism/homophobia on those sites bothers me more than any of the crap I watch there. Its BAD BAD!!
I appreciate you wanting to have that conversation about the political implications associated with NSFL content. You made me realize I have unfortunately said things along the lines of "thank God I don't live THERE." Or "I would never want to go THERE." And I feel so foolish and shitty for that.
I’ve seen lots of awful things but the Junko Furuta one still genuinely gets to me every time. I think it just taps into all the fucking awful aspects of these cases, the brutality of it plus police incompetence plus the perpetrators getting away with it with little to no legal or social repercussions. The parents of the killers claiming that their sons lives were ruined because of her is some of the most vile shit I’ve heard in my life. Genuinely hope some good can come of it that isn’t just exploitation as people become more aware of it.
Speaking of 9/11, what day do we give tribute to the horrendous murders of Iraqi civilians, the destruction of their country? Or Guatamala? El Salvador? Hell, what about Vietnam? What? There is none? Hmmm... EDIT: if you are tired of cops murdering people, I'm sure there is a police station near you that is pristine; has gotten no damage of any kind lately...ask why that is.
I lived in Las Vegas when the shooting happened. We where witnessing it unfold through my roommate's friends snapchats. It was a completely surreal night to witness and living there never felt the same after.
You mentioned “Burari” omggggg. Just to mention, the grandfather was instructing through the son not the daughter, there’s a fantastic documentary on Netflix on the same. May, there’s an Indian film (Assam) called “Aamis”, think you would appreciate it!
That understanding the source advice is such great general advice, I've seen so many ppl get rattled over innocuous articles or videos that show nothing but somebody narrativises the hell out of it
Case and point when that woman testified under oath she was told trump attacked his driver, and then some republican tweeted he knows somebody who says the driver is willing to testify that didnt happen The conservatives under that tweet were like who are you gonna believe some bimbos hearsay or the actual person... When the actual person ISNT SPEAKING
On living in the shadow of sh00tings: growing up, whenever we had such drills, my teachers would always tell us when they would happen. They didn't for fire drills, but they did for those drills because without prior warning, we had every reason to believe that our school was going to be the next headline
As someone who lives in an area of Mexico that's been completely affected by the drug war and the cartels I have to say that this video did an excellent job at talking about the subject, you're absolutely right about the underlying xenophobia a lot of the people in the NSFL "community" tend to lead to (idk how to call them lmao), I've seen this trend where people from the US that consume cartel material often seem to watch these videos like they're some sort of horror movie and how this all just feeds horrible stereotypes about us Hispanics being violent and uncivilized. It's sad but it's not a new thing, by example during the Mexican revolution (1910-1917) a film studio from Hollywood actually made a contract with Pancho villa (a prominent political figure during the war) so they could record some of the general Villa's battles and turn them into movies, if I'm not mistaken there were two movies made but I'm not sure if they're still around, Villa is often quoted as "the first Mexican that made it to Hollywood" for this reason, it is also said that during this war it was common for groups of Americans to watch from their side of the river (sometimes from hotels nearby) as gory and horrible battles were being fought from the other side as a form of entertainment
There’s only one part of the Junko Furuta story that I feel like is worth sensationalizing: she was killed after she beat the 4 evil goons in majohng, and then they finally performed the actions that killed her. Even in a complete despondent hell state, she was smarter than those monsters… institutional and cultural injustice was still triumphant though…. Plus, I’m so glad May acknowledged that “the cartel” is a critical yet underrecognized aspect of the axioms which form modern American patriotism. The school of the Americas (currently known as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security and Cooperation) is a recently popularized piece of history of how the U.S. government taught war criminals, dictators (including Bin Laden) and “cartel” architects to eradicate communists with a nazi-like fervor (often because former actual OG nazi generals devised many methods disseminated by the aforementioned institution) and when (some) South American countries left these war criminals without-a-job, they just focused their time fully on a side-hustle of supplying the U.S. government with cocaine and other narcotics (not directly, but it’s all traced back to the CIA starting with that whole Iran Contra affair) while using their previously existing governmental status to fully corrupt the understructured nature of destabilized nations to get their operations going with political/criminal deals, and effectively keeping the simmering communist sentiments under the exact same terroristic control of the exact same mariachi-capped red-white-and-blue boot using the cartel. Thusly, the cartel is ultimately hard to distinguish from any of those other unsightly blemishes which have swallowed the world-economy. Perhaps they’re even our most well-disguised American soldiers. One day this sentiment will be the new academic standard within the U.S. in the way that it currently is among Latin intelligentsia, but until then it’s a frustrating thing to have to explain to a standard populous of xenophobic cigar-dads and Karens.
Babe, wake up! New Nyx Fears just dropped! I love being snuggled in bed and listening to May talk about spooky shit. It's my favorite time of day. Also, so glad my fear of escalators is justified! I had a grown man bully me once because I was afraid of going on the down escalator and he pushed me onto the escalator. My best friend at the time cussed him out and it warmed my heart. So it was a bad time, but it also has a good memory and feeling attached to it.
These videos are really a public service in addition to being entertaining. Context is so important, as well as questioning what is and what isn't shown, so I've really appreciated the commentary.
Most UA-cam Channels will focus on Gore itself, but some ( Baggage Unclaimed, Disturbed Reality) actually take time to research the backstory under each gruesome video. This makes everything so much more interesting, to me at least.
How are botflies on the same tier as dismemberment torture? Botflies are kinda gross, but they’re basically just somewhat more invasive ticks. If you notice them you can remove them, if you don’t they will drop out after a few weeks and the holes will eventually close up. You’ll probably get a small scar, but unless you’re unlucky that’s really the only thing that’ll happen.
I live in Memphis, where the Ezekiel Kelly shooting just happened. His first victim was killed in his driveway not even a block from my house. When it occurred, I was cluelessly on the phone, outside...alone...in the dark. Just pacing in my driveway. Police have the footage from our knock-off ring camera. He literally pulled up and came to a stop, with his lights off, and looked at me for about 5 ish seconds before pulling away. My partner looked at the footage when he saw the first victim was down the street and found it. His screaming will always haunt me....he realized he was watching a mass spree shooter watch me, and decided my fate within a few seconds. And I have no idea why. Was it because I was already crying? I have no fucking clue. If I ever get the footage, it'll be a long time before I'll be able to look at it again. Much less upload it. I quit my job and haven't gone out much since that awful night.
I had the misfortune of being on Twitter when the Christchurch shooting happened and seeing some of the videos before they were taken down. I remember compartmentalizing and pushing it to the back of my mind because I had to leave for my university class at the time. When the class was over all of a sudden it just hit me and I couldn't even leave the room. My prof had to walk me to my campus' mental health center cause I was too scared to leave. So much shit we've seen now that absolutely everything can be recorded and people use the act of recording as a way to amplify their violence by orders of magnitude. Disturbing times.
On the case of Junko, a lot has to be said about the Japanese legal system too. Although technically still children in the eyes of the law they deserved more time. Maybe gender plays a role but I think theres a lot at play with Japanese soceity back then
so Japan’s sex crime laws were pretty bad already but they were over 100 years old and only got updated in 2017 and even then a lot of women and children’s rights groups say that the sex crime laws in Japan are still woefully lacking
@@Starkweather133 …I honestly don’t know, Japan unfortunately has…weird attitudes about sex crimes as it is and I’ve heard only bad things about adult male victims coming forward in Japan.
Only about halfway through the video but I want to say thank you going into detail about cartels. As someone who is lucky enough to be a first generation American and has seen the life my father left behind, people don't realize that in those disenfranchised countries (and even more in the poorest parts of a country already disenfranchised) sometimes being in a cartel is the only way to have "a job." When you come from a village where there is no work and no means to provide for a family and the government is basically a shadow figure sometimes that is the only option. And not all who are in cartels are super aggressive and dangerous people, they don't want to have to do those things but when you're backed into a corner and without resources you can be pushed to do things you didn't know you were capable of. Again, just thank you for humanizing this.
Thank you so much for speaking on how people demonize a country because of the documented violence in it. This stuff absolutely happens in the US and it's so narrow-minded to think that other countries are more "primitive" and "savage".
Really good commentary. It's important to understand the interaction between why you are seeing something vs. why it happened-sometimes they're directly linked (as with cartel violence and the war on drugs) and sometimes they're not. There is almost always broader context, and removing that context (or failing to consider it) lets people get detached from the horrors at hand. These were real people.
I don't wanna like trauma dump or anything, but your right that the act of witnessing pain can change your world view. Empathy is an incredibly powerful thing. Trigger warning for child harm here but I had left the mall of america just a few moments before some guy grabbed a child and threw them over the third floor railing. The child survived but thats traumatizing to even hear about, much less empathize with the pain and fear that child must have felt. But its reality. Reality is cold and painful, but also beautiful and warm and you have to find balance, and not just look down the endless encroaching tunnel of hopelessness which can and will lead to toxic thought patterns.
Since I live in Mexico, I grew up with cartel videos being presented to me as the political reality of my environment, to the point I’m desensitized to it because for very long my mentality was “it’s gonna happen to me or someone I care about eventually, so I have to man up, and take it” (especially since I’m a journalist). Watching the way Americans interact with this content feels so… dehumanizing? Like you said, there’s things like that happening right on y’all’s backyards, and yet the attention is on us, because the brown people = savages mentality is still alive and well.
I was literally just telling my friend yesterday how nice it is to have someone who can tell me about all these awful things without me having to actually see them myself.
Yeah, and they way May goes about it is just so comforting. Like a mom that’s like “ok kids, here’s the world, don’t do these things please”
YES. May is unironically doing a public service. I've seen a lot of this stuff, and I'm glad I don't have to see ALL of it now, just to know it's out there.
Yes it satisfies my morbid curiosity because I know I can't handle this stuff anymore. Maybe way back when I was a teenager but not now. And the way May describes things makes me laugh.
One thing I don’t like about that moth guy’s coverage is he looks for these things and puts censored visuals and the sounds(!) with it🥶.
That point it feels real exploitative
@@ladygrey4113 yeah and I’m glad May recognizes that it can be very disturbing to include that.
I’m also glad May brought up the brink thing in part one and how it messed with her.
I remember hearing about a girl who survived the Las Vegas shooting. She had just overcome cancer and gone to the concert to celebrate. I’ve never forgotten that story. Truly harrowing. Also, thank you for giving these stories the care and respect they deserve. Have a great day May.
Edit: Her name is Cassidy Huff.
okay so obviously this is a subject to be taken seriously and all but if i may throw one out of pocket comment out there, i think that girl might be living in a final destination movie
That´s the thing I liked the most on this video is to mention these tragedies because it serves a purpose: Most of you can relate and I'm glad there's a lot of comments like this showing lots of empathy towards this.
Yet as May pointed out, people that are into 'gore' and make and discuss this icebergs normally do not feel even a little bit since they otherize the people on said videos: it's no coincidence that this list contains so much stuff about Narco violence by the bottom and not a lot about these types of mass shootings attacks in 'The west' so to speak.
But think about how hearing about the Las Vegas shooting and this story makes you feel. Think how common these stories are. Now try to imagine there's been over 350,000 people killed in this fashion or disappearing forever knowing that it is almost certainty that they just didn't happen to film another Narco video that day but that probably happened to them. This is over the course of just 15 years or so.
It basically means that these stories are not only common, but they happen to someone you personally knew. More than once. I know of at least 5 people I personally knew here in México that were killed. Some of them with the actual descriptions of mutilations you've heard about in this video. This is what we have to live with with more stories piling up literally every day, on top of gringos dreaming about the bad ass Heisenberg fighting 'THE cartel' on TV and creeps watching this execution videos for their racist entertainment.
God really said fool me once
That rough
The machine thing is SO true. When I was 2 years old, I curiously touched the belt of my mom's treadmill while she was running on it and got my hand sucked in. It was like a smaller scale version of what happens on an escalator: most of the skin on my hand was ripped off and had to be sewn back on. Machines will stop for nothing, lol. Love you, May!
it brings to mind all the stories of workplace accidents, especially the ones that lead to casualties. I once watched a video of people being pinned down by robot arms because they didn't pay attention and accidentally got in the way of their movement and it was aweful just hearing the screams or seeing them unable to move.
Best video you've ever done. The end of the video makes me think. People in the U.S. get really upset every 9-11, because other cultures make jokes about it, or refuse to care in any way, and it really bothers us that it means nothing to them. That is how we should be thinking about things like the "cartel videos" from now on. Also, yes, people need to care more and do more about the harm toward marginalized people in our own back yard.
Anyone who gets upset at 9/11 jokes in TYOL 2022 who didn’t know someone who died in them needs to get over themselves, IMHO.
I want to say thank you. As a black woman in the us, when watching these nsfl videos I often feel a strange disconnection. It's not that I don't see the tragedy of these occurences but we rarely acknowledge how atrocious america is on the daily.
for the father hanging his son, the father was trying to enforce a suicide pact onto his family against their will. the daughter was filming it out of shock and fear and sent it to other people, leading to the father’s eventual arrest. the wife also committed suicide but it’s been questioned whether or not this was by her own hands. the father has been arrested and most likely charged, which is the silver lining. however, the daughter is still very traumatized by the entire incident
Honestly that makes it just a touch better, that she wasn't just filming for fun, but I'm also unhappy that she was in that situation and became traumatized
It was a son who was “possessed” in the Burari hangings, and even weirder, he acted as the father of the family for many years before the hanging happened. There’s a great documentary called House of Secrets that goes into the police investigation and the reaction of neighbors, and also dives deep into the writings the son left behind. It’s wild.
I think you’re one of the few “gore” UA-camrs who actually talk about perspective and the BIG xenophobic/racist pipeline of the most gore-y content .. people act like for example American soldiers/government didn’t do worse/same unprompted .. it totally has the lens of “look at these savages”
The “gore” I had in a middle eastern country wayyyy before isis beheadings is isreali soldiers brutality and abu gareb torture
And I see no one talking bout these in the gore community and I can’t think of any other reason rather than a certain narrative
So THANK YOU for talking about it
Thanks for being respectful when bringing up the Junko Furuta case. I feel like 60% of the time whenever people talk about her, it’s always in some weird dehumanizing “wooow look at what these crazy violent Japanese people did!!! so spooky!!” way and it puts a bad taste in my mouth. They don’t actually care or look into /why/ a girl was tortured for various months while many people knew and no one intervened and helped, and why the perpetrators got off with a slap on the wrist. No one ever talks about why we as a society have gotten to this level where awful shit like this is allowed to happen.
Also, the fact a few exploitation films were made off her murder too is pretty gross. :/
Anyways, great video!! ✌️✌️✌️
Most of the teenage boys who murdered Junko lived in poor household where they had little parental guidance and supervision, all the while being pushed down further by their poor performance and attendance in school. When it comes to Japan and heinous crimes there is always a very thin line between actual human degeneracy and societal pressure breaking someone’s humanity.
But yes there is still a problem with that whole society taking a very light approach when shit like this pops up. The punishment for Junko’s murderers are insultingly light, and don’t forget that cannibal murderer who got off free because his crime was committed in France and then he got celebrated in Japan. It is such a paradox isn’t it? That society asks so much out of good men while doing so little to punish bad ones. Japan is a very flawed country.
No, this was a gang involved kid who had a history of sexually harassing girls and got mad a girl smarter than him rejected him. Even when she was tortured she still could beat him at chess.
The Junko story really hurts my heart. she's buried in HTX now and I think I would like to bring flowers to her grave.
Edit: the description at the end of how you felt after the mall shooting really hits home. It's how I have been feeling ever since witnessing a shooting in the parking lot of a grocery store around the same time as losing my mom.
htx?? houston texas??
Her Grave was actually vandalized once, probably by the same scumbags' parents.
Picture this, they firmly stated that Junko was the one who ruined their sons' lives.
What the fuck.
thank you for talking about the prevalence of cartel videos and such "it could never happen here" content
as someone who has lived a non-insignificant portion of my life in countries people see as "inferior" (i was born in france but largely raised in nepal as well as some other SEA countries, i now live in france again) i have always been very aware of how people find entertainment in violence but only so long as it happens "over there"
these are the places i grew up in. i have witnessed tsunamis and earthquakes. an army man loudly searched our bus, a common occurrence, and pointed his rifle in my face before smiling and handing me a huge bullet when i was 4. to this day i am scared of army and police patrolling the street. the place i took my first steps in no longer exists, due to natural disasters.
i grew up immersed in the kind of random violence we in the west so love romanticise. civil war, dirty streets, a building falling with people still inside. people have sympathy for me because of it, but i cant help but think how much sympathy would i actually get if i wasnt white.
i am also jewish and queer. a few years ago neo nazis raided a bar not far from where i lived, saying they were there to "kill jews and f**gots". a few people ended up in the hospital with really nasty wounds. the violence is not alien, it's happening right now at our gates as it always has. it was true when i was living in these far-off places where terrible things "that could never happen here" happen, as it is true now that i live in a so-called "civilised" country.
This kind of mindset is especially a problem in the US. But nobody really thinks about how so much horrible depraved shit happens in the US daily.
I feel like a lot of people, understandably so, are easily able to detach themselves from stuff they see in videos and online, and thus never truly think about the reality of these things and how it isn't just a problem with a given area or country, but with humans as a whole.
thank you for that whole section on the phantasmagorical aspect of this stuff. sometimes it really is just the ideas that are as disturbing as the actual events. ofc we're inundated with images of police brutality now, but the thought of "that could be me, or maybe one of my siblings. just one wrong move on a random Tuesday" that always pops up in my brain, shits FUCKED
when I worked outside of the US for a couple years and I'd see mass casualty events show up on international news, it became doubly bizarre. because then it's like, "oh.... I don't worry about that stuff while I'm here.... but I DID have to think about it back home". which made me feel guilty sometimes?? that I was living a life where I didn't have to worry about a guy deciding he wants to rampage in a super market in THAT way, but everyone I love back home does... once again shits FUCKED
The part about incidences haunting communities really struck a chord with me. I live in an area of Northern England which is known for being the site of the Mary Bell murders. It’s all fun and games watching true crime UA-camrs wash on about how shocking it was, but driving past the actual literal murder sites to get to college and hearing it instinctively brought up whenever I tell someone where I live will never stop being a surreal and jarring experience. Great video May!
Oh man, I feel this so hard. I live in New Zealand and a very high profile murder happened in my city. The murderer killed his own family and they're buried in the town cemetery in my tiny small town. I've only seen a few people cover the "case"- I stumbled upon the grave with my friends when I was fourteen. We left immediately because we all knew what happened and even though we were happily smoking and drinking and reading among the dead before, that killed our whole buzz. Cognitive dissonance is crazy.
My version of this was growing up seeing billboards for Jacob Wetterling on the way to visit my grandparents for years and years of my childhood. I remember a few years ago someone barging into a comment section when his body was found saying maybe the parents were involved in his death and they got eviscerated. His mom never stopped searching for him and part of the communal wound was feeling protective of her
On this subject I really recommend Colin Dickey's book Ghostland, where he talks about ghost stories but in the context of what they mean to us culturally and essentially all the causes/effects around a lot of famous ghost stories/haunted houses/urban legends. Specifically there's one section about a ghost in New Orleans who supposedly haunts a specific street corner- and explaining the reason that legend was born was bc a well known local woman died when Katrina hit and her body was just left on that corner for over a week due to the slow and ineffective response from the govt. The whole book is great and really emphasizes how these stories that are thrilling and spooky when you're not attached to them can have real impacts on the communities they are from or target. Def 10/10 esp if you're interested in that kind of analysis
It might be weird to say on an NSFL vid, but I really appreciate your practical outlook on life. And you crack me up! Keep up the great work!
talking about escalator accidents reminds me that, one time when i was very young, my mom saw a report on the news about someone with pants with loose cuffs or something getting caught in an escalator and killed horribly, and then she freaked the fuck out and warned me about it in a level of detail that was FRANKLY VERY UNNECESSARY and it was kinda traumatizing and being on an escalator will fuck me up really badly sometimes. i also gained a fear of heights and falling sometime in my mid-20s, making longer escalator rides terrifying for even more reasons!
in short, why the fuck are escalators so horrifying.
Well I just think about how it all worksSz imagine the parts that rotate and the amount of heat/energy it’s producing. Be a incredibly powerful amd painful death!.
I have a severe phobia of escalators to the point where if I get too close to the mechanics of one, I can spiral into a panic attack. I fell down one and got caught in the mechanism when I was young, and haven’t been able to use one without tears and hyperventilating. For some reason, you saying they’re scary and it’s okay to just take the stairs made me feel so much better about it. I will continue to take the stairs!
I am Mexican, the way you talked about the mass shootings and police murders in the US, the way these things should be seen by American people, how the fear is just right below but you have to go on with your life... uh, that's how we deal with the cartel stuff here lmao, we don't fear we'll be funky town'd, but we might get gunned down at a streetcrossing because someone we know or an absolute stranger did something the LOCAL cartel didn't like and so on and so forth. Also kidnappings, literally everybody knows someone who just disappeared. But it's like... you gotta keep going so, it's so tiring to see how it's exoticized, thanks for talking about that aspect
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I rarely watch end credits but that song is addicting.
Also this series has been very helpful to break me out of my habit of seeking out NSFL content. It started with an innocent interest in anatomy and extreme situations/survival scenarios that went a bit too far. It worsened my depression to see so much suffering so frequently. Now when I get the compulsion to look for that kind of content I think "but why? how will this benefit me?"
I still watch things like Human Anatomy Lab that are educational and use the cadavers of people who donated their bodies to science, and I've realized that makes much more sense than looking at a picture of somebody whose body is now soup.
I'm the same! I like to watch surgery footage because it satisfies my curiosity, but without showing me people suffering or dying! in fact, it gives me more faith in humanity seeing someone "repairing" another person.
This video was so good. Thank you May for all your research and nuanced conversation. As someone who comes from Venezuela but lives in the US I have definitely seen both sides, and I agree that there is evil everywhere. It does break my heart when I hear people call my country a shit hole when the reality is that we’ve been politically and economically fucked by both internal and external factors. Living in the US I have people tell me I should be grateful and I should stay quiet when there’s people being wrongfully killed by police, and literal children being slaughtered, and like yeah I’m grateful to be here but that doesn’t mean I can’t want better for everyone. I wish we’d have more conversations like these.
Man, I’m so glad you’re covering these topics because as someone who never jived with how so many UA-camrs and those in the NSFL community act around the topics in the videos, it’s really refreshing and helps to see these topics in a new, more compassionate way.
Also just how you mentioned the mall incident at the end so casually..it shocks me sometimes how these things just happen (I’m in Canada so it’s not as common here but still) and we just have to move along like it’s just another Tuesday.
Thanks for being a cool person, May
I’m glad you brought up the violence and shootings in America. It’s good to note that this shit is happening at home and we’re not any better than the people who did the cartel videos. It’s important to know that it’s not okay to get used to these attacks, and I’m so glad you added that commentary to this list.
The Junko case was something I came across on a seemingly innocuous tumblr post that was like 'fun random wikipedia articles to read when you're bored🥰💗' and I will NEVER forgive that person for just. Throwing that in there. It was one of things when I was reading it that I just... wanted so bad for it not to be real. Ended up crying about it and having a pretty shitty time! So I'm glad you brought it up even though it's not a video
only youtuber i’ve ever been able to watch and have genuine laughs with and find some relation to within myswlf and humor. love and appreciate you a ton may. you always know how to bring a smile to my face. thankyou for being you
Once again, well researched and handled with a great amount of care / nuance. Appreciate everything you do May 💕✨
On the subject on cannibalism, when I was in Thailand having SRS, a friend told me of another time she'd been in Thailand with a friend of hers who'd had the same operation. In those days, they would allow you to take all the left over bits home with you in a little jar. This person decided that it'd be fun to cook and eat those lumps of her own flesh. She went as far as cooking them, but then someone said that she should look into whether or not it's safe to do such a thing. Apparently consuming your own flesh can cause flesh eating bacteria and so doing this is not a good idea. However, she now had a frying pan with her cooked flesh in it and didn't know what to do with it. At the front of the hotel, there was a fish pond full of these tiny little fish. When no-one was looking, she dumped it in there and that was the end of that. A year later, she returned to Thailand for a follow up procedure and stayed at the same hotel. Out of curiosity, she decided to check out the fish pond. Those fish were now massive, perhaps from consuming all that left over testosterone, they were basically on steroids. And that is why they won't let you take home the left over bits of flesh after SRS anymore. At the time, I remember being disappointed by that, not because I would have eaten it or fed it to anyone else, but maybe I could have turned it into some sort of art piece or piece of jewellery. It would be a great conversation starter.
I hate to ask this but I'm curious, why would her surgically removed tumors or whatever have high levels of testosterone? Was it caused by the tumor or she's trans?
Thank you so, so much for getting into the political context on cartel videos and how those relate to other kinds of political violence, including ones we don't generally relate to as consumable as a curio. That was absolutely essential.
One of the anthro classes I had in college had a a serious syllabus about how people deflect political violence, where the two big standouts were one of Mick Taussig's books on the drug war and James T. Siegel's Naming The Witch- it was all, like a lot of anthropological writing, about political violence Somewhere Else, specifically in Colombia and Indonesia, but I remember them being really good at connecting that to violence and deflection here. Highly recommended if you want to read books that relate to spectacular violence as being a manifestation of something very political and grounded.
I also want to recommend to everyone the article by Cesar Albaran-Torres in Senses of Cinema about mediatised narco/cartel violence for more context about 'why are we seeing this'- it's a nice piece about the uses of horror in the political spectacle of the drug trade and the uses of narco-terror in horror.
Thank you for talking about Junko in such a succinct, empathic way. The way in which her final days alive have been exploited is nothing short of disgusting. Can't help but cry whenever i think about her. she had her entire life ahead of her, only to be turned into....like, a horrifying, weird patron saint of violence and torture.
To this day I regret living the day I learned about her death
Started watching your iceberg videos this week. I feel lucky to witness this third part on time.
Thanks a lot for the outlook you’re sharing and the care you take to smooth things out, while being both bluntly and hilariously honest AND respecful.
10:22 reminds me of how, when I was little, I watched a Simpsons episode that had an Itchy and Scratchy short where Itchy stuck Scratchy's feet to a moving walkway and it skinned him alive...ever since then I've had an irrational fear of that happening to me
I’m a school shooting survivor, and living in America it’s completely wild how many people are also survivors of mass shooting and other acts of large scale violence, the US is a nightmare my dudes
So... I was 6 years old. My family was stationed at Rammstein AFB. Long story short I witnessed that in person, fortunately from a safe distance.
Lol if you were my sleep paralysis demon I feel like I’d be way less terrified.
honestly it’d be pretty hot.
@@jogeller5731 I mean I’m a married man but sure.
learning about junko furuta did mess me up for life, it makes sense she'd be on this list. RIP
i cant even begin to describe how thankful and just, mind blown i am that you survived a literal mall shooting. as someone who worked in a mall for 6 years including during the pandemic, that fear is present in you and everyone you meet and work with Every single day. Every time you go into the break room and see the 'evacuation route' chart on the fridge. every time you hear your manager in down moments muttering to themselves, 'oh well we could fit a few staff and/or customers behind the counter, flip a table and make a barricade here...' it is devastating. thank you for sharing it with us. i hope someday its not as immediate of a reality as it is right now.
It's really so important I think to have the meta-analysis in these videos as well. Not only just to contextualize the content itself, but also to invite people to think critically when they find themselves in the dark corners of the internet.
Also I have to skip the Junko story every time I get to it in one of these sorts of lists. I have a pretty high tolerance for this sort of thing but that one just gets to me.
You're like a traumatized ray of sunshine, and I love you for that
I am having a really shitty bout of depression and I was SO happy when I saw this was posted. No pressure, Nyx.
Feel you bro
The way you’re positioned in front of that art in the background makes it look like you have cat ears.
i live in a community where i hear gunshots at night at least every couple of weeks, and theres a lot of shootings that i see in the news. talking about how to keep ourselves safe and how to avoid being near places where this happens has become a regulat part of my life, even though i havent lived in an area like this till i moved out on my own. its crazy how fast you get used to hearing about shootings, consoling and being there for people who knew the person who was shot. my community has 14 year olds walking around with guns because they're afraid of being shot and killed. i knew one of those kids. he got shot and killed anyway. its terrifying, but you just cant think about it all the time because you have to survive. you have to keep going. everyone has become numb to it. A lot of the shootings are over personal disagreements. a lot of 'you disrespected me so now i have to kill you' shit. people just try to keep their head down. it feels like that's all we can do
"In the middle of the night you might wake up with me on your chest"
Promise?
hope your halloweenie season is fun may! love the content and excited to watch this
god the entire last bit of this video is delicious. Your mind, girl the way you put thoughts into words!! Can’t wait to get my hands on your books.
I wish May would do a podcast. I would listen to that shit allll day.
I have a podcast called Your Take is Excrement
boy oh boy are you in for a treat
6:30 This happened to me visiting Effed Up Movies, a platform for horror/gore independent/less known movies. I try to avoid the comments section and only watch the movie because GIRL, that people touch all the sides of anything x-phobic.
Extreme horror fans are either the best or worst ppl in the world, and only the latter seem to comment on EUM
it sounds so weird to say 'thank you' for something like this, but i do genuinely appreciate the fact that you're acknowledging how fucked up and racist a lot of these nsfl community members are, along with such a well-articulated reasoning of WHY it happens and a caution to not fall into that line of thinking. and the things you added at the end are extremely relevant to that; the united states is a fucking horrorshow in terms of mass violence. i find it very hard to watch any live footage of crowds without being extremely anxious that Something's Gonna Happen, and that's a fucked up thing to be conditioned to do.
ANYWAY im excited for your new book, and take care of yourself as best you can
hey i too was tangentially involved in a mall shooting. i didn't see the action but I was working at ye olde Gamestop when there was gunfire in the mall. My store manager ran outside and closed the gate to see what was going on and i took the customers (including like, 10 children), in the store room, theft be damned. I wasn't about to put a pre-owned xbox 360 controller and some scratched up shitty games over a life if it was really a mass shooter. Thankfully it wasn't, just a one on one confrontation that went too far. Nobody died but it was scary enough just to not KNOW if people were dying.
Yes, Rammstein the band are named after the air disaster.
lol
Hi May, you mentioned reading some books that helped you understand and explain events in the iceberg. What books would you recommend to gain a rounded view of events like these?
There’s a book linked in the description that they read on cartels!
Just wait until you can walk them through Tier IX. ;)
Amazing video as always!
I always say this, some people who watch cartel/isis gore videos treat those videos as an invitation to be openly racist and xenophobic. I've read sooo many comments of people saying Brazil (or any South American country) is a hell hole and "you wouldn't catch me dead" in those places. Like, I love Disturbed Reality and his content, but the comment section is filled with jerks who say shit like this.
I appreciate you not putting on a spooky little voice and also the way you deescalate the topic in a rational way. Sometimes I think people who make these videos either make a joke of the situation or tell it like a scary story rather than tragic accidents as they usually are. Also it makes me okay indulging in this “gross” explanation content bc I know you allow me to in a safe way that won’t accidentally go to far before I can stop it
I love that I'm getting your new music uploads on my feed now as well! I'm blown away by your talent and originality! You're absolutely my favorite person I pretend to know on youtube🌒✨
My cousin was in the Las Vegas shooting, thank god she survived, I remember she didn't speak to anyone in out family for months afterwards
May, I am so happy how nuanced you are about some of these topics. It is frustrating to be in communities of true crime and spooky stuff and it is rampant with xenophobia with no critical thought.
i really appreciate the ''ur gay'' sign in the back, thank you
I'm glad my intense fear of escalators is justified
I'm Brazilian and my region is controlled my militias who are essentially death squads/mafias. They came from old anticommunist death squads from the dictatorship era and from there you had the political rise of Bolsonaro....yes, the current president of Brazil (not for long hopefully). I say this because recently a friend's son was assassinated by militias and some of her relatives told me this was filmed. I didn't try to watch the video but it's apparently a thing that militias film their killings and send them to relatives. That hit very close to home so I'm very glad you're pointing out the political nature of murders in Latin America.
Fantastic job with the social/political commentary. Very unexpected, very appreciated.
thank you for approaching this subject with such grace
Just wow. I'm late to the show but I must say how much I value your compassion and profoundness. If I put it incorrect, I'm sorry, no English practice for a long time. I think I love you. These 3 videos series is brilliant. Should be taught at schools. Yeah yeah I mean it. Thank you May! Stay safe and positive. You are a miracle!
Hi! Just wanna say I really really like you! I enjoy your content so much, and you're just dang great to listen to (and watch, if I'm not at work). I love the way you talk to us and you make me feel like I have a super cool friend who enjoys discussing NSFL, darker media, off the beaten path content, etc.
I hope you have a super duper Halloween!!
Xoxoxx
PS I was JUST talking to my partner about how tbh the racism/sexism/homophobia on those sites bothers me more than any of the crap I watch there. Its BAD BAD!!
I appreciate you wanting to have that conversation about the political implications associated with NSFL content. You made me realize I have unfortunately said things along the lines of "thank God I don't live THERE." Or "I would never want to go THERE." And I feel so foolish and shitty for that.
I’ve seen lots of awful things but the Junko Furuta one still genuinely gets to me every time. I think it just taps into all the fucking awful aspects of these cases, the brutality of it plus police incompetence plus the perpetrators getting away with it with little to no legal or social repercussions. The parents of the killers claiming that their sons lives were ruined because of her is some of the most vile shit I’ve heard in my life. Genuinely hope some good can come of it that isn’t just exploitation as people become more aware of it.
Your words on such disturbing events rasing awareness and questions bring comfort that I am not alone in the world as I think about them.
Speaking of 9/11, what day do we give tribute to the horrendous murders of Iraqi civilians, the destruction of their country? Or Guatamala? El Salvador? Hell, what about Vietnam? What? There is none? Hmmm...
EDIT: if you are tired of cops murdering people, I'm sure there is a police station near you that is pristine; has gotten no damage of any kind lately...ask why that is.
Keeping up my tradition of eating a meal while listing to you talk about some real intense shit
I lived in Las Vegas when the shooting happened. We where witnessing it unfold through my roommate's friends snapchats. It was a completely surreal night to witness and living there never felt the same after.
You mentioned “Burari” omggggg. Just to mention, the grandfather was instructing through the son not the daughter, there’s a fantastic documentary on Netflix on the same.
May, there’s an Indian film (Assam) called “Aamis”, think you would appreciate it!
That understanding the source advice is such great general advice, I've seen so many ppl get rattled over innocuous articles or videos that show nothing but somebody narrativises the hell out of it
Case and point when that woman testified under oath she was told trump attacked his driver, and then some republican tweeted he knows somebody who says the driver is willing to testify that didnt happen
The conservatives under that tweet were like who are you gonna believe some bimbos hearsay or the actual person... When the actual person ISNT SPEAKING
Your next book is almost all done? Heck I'm excited 👀
On living in the shadow of sh00tings: growing up, whenever we had such drills, my teachers would always tell us when they would happen. They didn't for fire drills, but they did for those drills because without prior warning, we had every reason to believe that our school was going to be the next headline
the fuckin note on the wall I cannot 😂
i am extremely sick and in so much pain, this is the perfect time to watch our blooming flower's video
As someone who lives in an area of Mexico that's been completely affected by the drug war and the cartels I have to say that this video did an excellent job at talking about the subject, you're absolutely right about the underlying xenophobia a lot of the people in the NSFL "community" tend to lead to (idk how to call them lmao), I've seen this trend where people from the US that consume cartel material often seem to watch these videos like they're some sort of horror movie and how this all just feeds horrible stereotypes about us Hispanics being violent and uncivilized.
It's sad but it's not a new thing, by example during the Mexican revolution (1910-1917) a film studio from Hollywood actually made a contract with Pancho villa (a prominent political figure during the war) so they could record some of the general Villa's battles and turn them into movies, if I'm not mistaken there were two movies made but I'm not sure if they're still around, Villa is often quoted as "the first Mexican that made it to Hollywood" for this reason, it is also said that during this war it was common for groups of Americans to watch from their side of the river (sometimes from hotels nearby) as gory and horrible battles were being fought from the other side as a form of entertainment
There's a very interesting documentary on Netflix about the Burari deaths called House of Secrets. Highly recommend
Also, May, I love that your picture makes you look like you have kitty ears 🐱
so many vids released recently while I've been temporarily homeless, thank you may I'm eatin good now
There’s only one part of the Junko Furuta story that I feel like is worth sensationalizing: she was killed after she beat the 4 evil goons in majohng, and then they finally performed the actions that killed her.
Even in a complete despondent hell state, she was smarter than those monsters… institutional and cultural injustice was still triumphant though….
Plus, I’m so glad May acknowledged that “the cartel” is a critical yet underrecognized aspect of the axioms which form modern American patriotism. The school of the Americas (currently known as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security and Cooperation) is a recently popularized piece of history of how the U.S. government taught war criminals, dictators (including Bin Laden) and “cartel” architects to eradicate communists with a nazi-like fervor (often because former actual OG nazi generals devised many methods disseminated by the aforementioned institution) and when (some) South American countries left these war criminals without-a-job, they just focused their time fully on a side-hustle of supplying the U.S. government with cocaine and other narcotics (not directly, but it’s all traced back to the CIA starting with that whole Iran Contra affair) while using their previously existing governmental status to fully corrupt the understructured nature of destabilized nations to get their operations going with political/criminal deals, and effectively keeping the simmering communist sentiments under the exact same terroristic control of the exact same mariachi-capped red-white-and-blue boot using the cartel.
Thusly, the cartel is ultimately hard to distinguish from any of those other unsightly blemishes which have swallowed the world-economy. Perhaps they’re even our most well-disguised American soldiers.
One day this sentiment will be the new academic standard within the U.S. in the way that it currently is among Latin intelligentsia, but until then it’s a frustrating thing to have to explain to a standard populous of xenophobic cigar-dads and Karens.
Babe, wake up! New Nyx Fears just dropped!
I love being snuggled in bed and listening to May talk about spooky shit. It's my favorite time of day.
Also, so glad my fear of escalators is justified! I had a grown man bully me once because I was afraid of going on the down escalator and he pushed me onto the escalator. My best friend at the time cussed him out and it warmed my heart. So it was a bad time, but it also has a good memory and feeling attached to it.
These videos are really a public service in addition to being entertaining. Context is so important, as well as questioning what is and what isn't shown, so I've really appreciated the commentary.
Most UA-cam Channels will focus on Gore itself, but some ( Baggage Unclaimed, Disturbed Reality) actually take time to research the backstory under each gruesome video.
This makes everything so much more interesting, to me at least.
I used to help out at a metal shop and can confirm, machines are evil. Disc sanders in particular. I still remove all the strings from my hoodies.
May is the harm reducing needle exchange of NSFL content.
The poster behind you makes it look like you got kitty ears! 💕
How are botflies on the same tier as dismemberment torture? Botflies are kinda gross, but they’re basically just somewhat more invasive ticks. If you notice them you can remove them, if you don’t they will drop out after a few weeks and the holes will eventually close up. You’ll probably get a small scar, but unless you’re unlucky that’s really the only thing that’ll happen.
I live in Memphis, where the Ezekiel Kelly shooting just happened. His first victim was killed in his driveway not even a block from my house. When it occurred, I was cluelessly on the phone, outside...alone...in the dark. Just pacing in my driveway. Police have the footage from our knock-off ring camera. He literally pulled up and came to a stop, with his lights off, and looked at me for about 5 ish seconds before pulling away. My partner looked at the footage when he saw the first victim was down the street and found it. His screaming will always haunt me....he realized he was watching a mass spree shooter watch me, and decided my fate within a few seconds. And I have no idea why. Was it because I was already crying? I have no fucking clue.
If I ever get the footage, it'll be a long time before I'll be able to look at it again. Much less upload it. I quit my job and haven't gone out much since that awful night.
I'm so excited to watch omg 🥰 I just finished Fluids and loved it so much, I've been so excited to watch a new video by you ❤️
As a librarian and someome who cares deeply about media literacy, this is incredible. Thank you for doing this.
I love you and your videos so much May!!! My Tuesday is 80% better since you uploaded thank you sm
I had the misfortune of being on Twitter when the Christchurch shooting happened and seeing some of the videos before they were taken down. I remember compartmentalizing and pushing it to the back of my mind because I had to leave for my university class at the time. When the class was over all of a sudden it just hit me and I couldn't even leave the room. My prof had to walk me to my campus' mental health center cause I was too scared to leave. So much shit we've seen now that absolutely everything can be recorded and people use the act of recording as a way to amplify their violence by orders of magnitude. Disturbing times.
Thank you for sharing these anecdotes and opinions at the end. Love you!
On the case of Junko, a lot has to be said about the Japanese legal system too. Although technically still children in the eyes of the law they deserved more time. Maybe gender plays a role but I think theres a lot at play with Japanese soceity back then
so Japan’s sex crime laws were pretty bad already but they were over 100 years old and only got updated in 2017 and even then a lot of women and children’s rights groups say that the sex crime laws in Japan are still woefully lacking
@@ladygrey4113 ah interesting. Grim, but interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Do you think case wouldve been different if it was male on male?
@@Starkweather133 …I honestly don’t know, Japan unfortunately has…weird attitudes about sex crimes as it is and I’ve heard only bad things about adult male victims coming forward in Japan.
@@ladygrey4113 hmm didn't think of that. Long story short, sort it out japan
Only about halfway through the video but I want to say thank you going into detail about cartels. As someone who is lucky enough to be a first generation American and has seen the life my father left behind, people don't realize that in those disenfranchised countries (and even more in the poorest parts of a country already disenfranchised) sometimes being in a cartel is the only way to have "a job." When you come from a village where there is no work and no means to provide for a family and the government is basically a shadow figure sometimes that is the only option. And not all who are in cartels are super aggressive and dangerous people, they don't want to have to do those things but when you're backed into a corner and without resources you can be pushed to do things you didn't know you were capable of.
Again, just thank you for humanizing this.
Love your content so much you're one of the only UA-camrs I've seen talk about cartel videos and not get really racist with it
Thank you so much for speaking on how people demonize a country because of the documented violence in it. This stuff absolutely happens in the US and it's so narrow-minded to think that other countries are more "primitive" and "savage".
Really good commentary. It's important to understand the interaction between why you are seeing something vs. why it happened-sometimes they're directly linked (as with cartel violence and the war on drugs) and sometimes they're not. There is almost always broader context, and removing that context (or failing to consider it) lets people get detached from the horrors at hand. These were real people.
I don't wanna like trauma dump or anything, but your right that the act of witnessing pain can change your world view. Empathy is an incredibly powerful thing. Trigger warning for child harm here but I had left the mall of america just a few moments before some guy grabbed a child and threw them over the third floor railing. The child survived but thats traumatizing to even hear about, much less empathize with the pain and fear that child must have felt. But its reality. Reality is cold and painful, but also beautiful and warm and you have to find balance, and not just look down the endless encroaching tunnel of hopelessness which can and will lead to toxic thought patterns.
The painting behind May's head makes it look like she has horns, which is almost too perfect
i saw something triggering on my twitter feed and so i came here to listen to may give a wholesome take on nsfl content. ily may, keep growing
Since I live in Mexico, I grew up with cartel videos being presented to me as the political reality of my environment, to the point I’m desensitized to it because for very long my mentality was “it’s gonna happen to me or someone I care about eventually, so I have to man up, and take it” (especially since I’m a journalist).
Watching the way Americans interact with this content feels so… dehumanizing? Like you said, there’s things like that happening right on y’all’s backyards, and yet the attention is on us, because the brown people = savages mentality is still alive and well.