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To answer the question of why half damage doesn't stack, it's because each type of damage modification effect only gets applied once per damage instance. That's also why you cannot reflect reflected damage back, for example.
Not applying an effect that has already been applied again is reasonable, to be honest.
If only there were a book that people could read to learn things like this. Then we could tell them where to look in it to see these facts, so that they can see how they make sense in the framework of this game's rules. They could even look around to clarify related topics while they're at it. That'd be nice. Too bad it's a complete impossibility, as no game has ever done anything like that.
Life Hack babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
It's too bad that most of the Gem-knight spell and traps don't have "Gem-knight" in their name.
The main reason it says cards is so once you cycle through 2 copies of dispersion, which is very doable, that fulfills your 3 banishes for hollowheart along with itself so you dont have to banish monsters you may otherwise need. It still comes on dangerously late in your combo line but it's very nice to have as an option
tbf the 4rd archetype could just as well be gishki. the human characters on both nekroz and gishki look identical in design
Maybe both? They can mix the archetypes like they did with Atlanteans and mermails
@@EmersonCRVG Probably not. Ritual Beast and Gustos are connected but most is a name connection
Nekorz Trap is gonna be real
No the desing is only the nekroz
they're the same people, its Gishki Avance (who becomes Nekroz Unicore/Valkyrus) and Gishki Emiia (whos Dance Princess of Nekroz and I think the daughter of Nekroz of Sofia?) The only reason I think it's Nekroz its because Avance is holding the Nekroz Mirror in his hand
Its probably going to be further gishki support but they could make it so that it works with nekroz. As much as I don't care much for nekroz it is refreshing to see they remember it. Now give me X-saber and ally of justice support.
I don't know, when faced with the question whether damage can be halved again, it could really go either way.
The damage you should be doing according to card text and game mechanics is not changed by such an effect, the result is not itself treated as the damage you should be doing according to card text and game mechanics (it doesn't work like programming variables which can be set to a new value as they are changed).
I've recently learned of a spell card that lets you target a monster and have its attack become twice its original attack at the cost of halving damage this turn. Funnily, it also has a graveyard effect that does exactly the same again, so this card does actually let you deal more damage than without.
Now I want some new shaddoll cards
i would love new shaddolls too. but considering they got a structure deck less than 5 years ago which was also very powerful back then i doubt they will get more support anytime soon. i guess they are pretty far back in the Duel Terminal queue now
@@Attondelx saber or morphtronic support? Perhaps wind ups? A lot of 2011 stuff needs support
@@NeostormXLMAX Morphtronics aren't from DT
"special summon 1 monster from your opponents extra deck to their field (but its effects are negated), and if you do add 1 Shaddoll card from your deck to your hand"
i like how they made this cool fusion archetype that is supposed to blind second otk with a in theme cowboy but accidentally made it toooo good at cowboy for game so now they need to say STOP IT NO MORE BURN DAMAGE
7:00 Actually by using simple logic the damage would be halved. Beacause it doesn't say "half all the effect damage" it says "effect damage IS halved" and, in this situatiation, 2 cards that say it's halved just agree with each other, I believe. But again, some judge will just decide it and we'll have to cope.
"But why [don't damage-halving effects stack]?" Because those are the rules that would be written in the rulebook, if one existed. It would contain such useful information as "damage modification effects don't stack; they are either present or not present, they cannot be present more than once."
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They are.
@@mrbubbles6468 It is unclear what you mean. What are "they," and what is true of them which I asserted or implied was false?
I mean it is written in a way that already implies they don't stack. It doesn't say "halve all effect damage". It says "all effect damage is halved". That sets the result to a given number. Two effects saying that line are simply agreeing with each other.
@@amethonys2798 That is correct, but it's a somewhat subtle point and I couldn't resist taking a jab at the fact that this game doesn't have a proper rulebook. It'd make it so much easier to understand and talk about the game's rules if it existed, rather than having all the game's rules and mechanics be spread across so many distinct sources (many of which are unofficial - looking only at official English sources would leave quite a lot of the game's rules entirely unexplained by anything).
@@delta3244Konami has addressed this issue in OCG even using "layers" similar to MTG on how damage is decided. And this solved the issues of double reflecting damage (Pain vs Mikanko) or damage modifiers (Pain vs Paidra) etc
First its actually hilarious that they made 2 cards that halves the effect damage and Voidroots its kinda scary but its an omni only if you control a Fusion and you need to banish 3. Overall, they are all good cards!
>Terminal World pack
>G-K, Jurrac and Fabled on the art
>"is this Nekroz support or what?"
IT'S GISHKI LMAO
Idk, someone did point it out and if you look at the staff Avance Is holding, it has the Nekroz mirror on it. I’m leaning towards Nekroz also because Gishki was more recently supported compared to nekroz
Well one nekroz mirror is in the art and 2 gishki already got support recently (well if you consider 2 years recent) so nekroz makes the most sense. Then on top of that there was supposedly a leaked nekroz trap
@@jackofaces107 Also Gishki already has support
Gem-Knight Nephelim (I hate ygorg) does discard for effect, you can send her as material from Deck with Shaddoll Fusion and discard a shaddoll monster to revive herself and proc the discarded monster's effect
Its japanese name has a Pi and not Phe, the translated name is correct. Source: i can read the Katakana
I'm hoping they treat Nekroz as well as they did Gem Knights if not better. I couldn't afford to play them competitively dueing their debut, but this time around, I'm taking Ws
Gem knight is one of my favorite archetypes ❤❤
So the damage halved not stacking is similar to the rule in Dungeons and Dragons. You can only halve or double once. Think of it instead as a condition, we'll call it weakened. You can't be double weakened, as soon as you have the condition you just have it. It's to prevent the need to track several "conditions" at once.
I want more gem-knight fusions that do stuff that isn't ftk.
Konami, just retrain El Shaddoll Winda already so we can finally ban the floodgate. Her art is so fucking sick, i'd find excuses to play the card if the effect didn't stonewall my opponent. Its just not a fun or well designed card.
Like, i'd rather that she have some other oppressive effect. Perhaps she gains counters each time an opponent special summons a monster that reset to 0 at each standby phase, and if she accumulates 5 counters, your opponent can't activate cards in the hand or field for the rest of that turn. Like, it'd be a skill drain, sure, but there's room to try and out her and it'd thematically follow the design of the original where the amount of special summons are tied to the effect. You could also always give the card 3000 or more ATK so she loses to TY-PHON in case it becomes too problematic.
I would like to suggest though that the Shaddoll line to make the Winda retrain should take over 5 special summons so that it plays into Nib (because it'd be funni considering she'd basically be a Nib on legs). On top of that, make one of the summon materials the original El Shaddoll Winda so that you'll have to play King of the Swamp when it gets banned. Because god knows that Tearlaments will play this too unless all the summon materials are Shaddoll monsters.
Theres no fucking way you’re bitching about winda hahaha. Skill issue bruh
Brilliant Fusion could come back to 7 and it will do nothing.
These cards blew me away.
They're absolutely broken!
it’s obvious why they don’t stack. so you don’t have to worry about calculating weird decimals for life points
Maybe we will finally that mythical Nekroz trap!
These new cards are good. However the deck is still not good. Konami clearly knows what effect should be given to a deck if they want it to go blind second otk (some random fire dragons), but instead they give gem-knight something that implies you to try making a board going first and all you can do in response to the opponent is an omni negate that is additionally weak to called by.
It doesn't stack for math simplicity. Half damage is just a condition on the players it can't be applied twice. Otherwise you run into decimals/rounding that i promise will get abused
Nekroz peepohappy
wait did he not talk about the new azamina white forest cards?
What is the name of the website Josh was using for the Q and A's? I'd really love to know
Plot twist: It’s Gishki
bring circular back
Shaddoll Circular when?
That card is hilariously busted. Why’s Konami doing this?
Nekroz finna be meta again😭😭😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Its gishiki support probably
@@Realblack_m0nstersame thing, you can already play both together
@@Realblack_m0nsterI dunno man, it has the exact same shoulder pads as swordmaster of the nekroz.
At least they designed the Cards so that you cannot FTK your Opponent.
I hope that 😂
You still can, but you have to not use those specific effects, requires specific hands such as armadillo x2, and requires playing cards that are otherwise bricks like black garden or volcanic emperor. Most likely there's not a good ratio to make it the best thing to be doing, considering the effects you are opting to not use are so good.
With the new support one armadillo + any gem monster is enough for the ftk, if you don't use the halve damage effects (no black Garden required). And it plays through nib😅
waiting for evilswarm martha
Evilswarms entire mechanic might be obsolete due to links being a thing
@@NeostormXLMAXthey might get the ursarctic treatment with the new synchro 1 completing the floodgate
Let’s go
This gishki Support
Josh... Its not a circular as its not a one card combo
Watch it be more Gishki support and not Nekroz
It depends on when Avance and Emilia founded the Nekroz, cause Emilia was dead throughtout most of DT 2, so it's definitely after the lswarm were dealt with
the half effect damage on the Nephilim is actually really funny. Tbh just ban the card that burns, i dont even think its good in gem knights outside of the FTK.
It's extremely good because it dumps lazuli or the new level 4. It also gives gem knight a pretty unique going second playstyle where they can get a significant amount of burn in play before they go to battle, so they don't need to commit as hard to the board. The ftk is still possible with this new support but it requires so many extra hoops to jump through in addition to not using 2 of the best effects on said new cards that it's most likely not worth going for beyond the occasional funny gimmick. More straightforward endboards should be adequately powerful enough going first.
@@TheProgenitor ah yeah thanks for pointing it out tbh, for now im hopeful itll be a fun deck, we'll see how the FTK pans out.
I don’t even know how you make nekroz playable.
The nekroz playstyle is pretty much completely obsolete
Unicore still ends games though. And denko still shuts down a bunch of backrow decks, for example its very easy to get vanities or majestys fiends with implantations if you go first, and if you go second just go aggro etc
@@NeostormXLMAX that’s just shitty drytron though and it doesn’t do anything right now
Make good rituals for going first I guess
Back when Nekroz was new, they weren't too dissimilar from the cards they were inspired by. Maybe new Nekroz is based on newer boss monsters in YGO
you can make any deck meta with a few new custom cards
Tard, Souls did what Circular does and better.
Nah more gishki cards.