Actually, it's both. She was upset that Lorelai preferred to live in that tiny little shed instead of her humongous mansion, as long as she got away from her parents; and also upset that she missed out on so much.
She and Edward Herrmann never got the credit they deserved for making the show what it was. Those could've easily been two-dimensional, cardboard characters, but thanks to the efforts of those two actors and the writers, they were anything but.
For those who need a translation of Emily and Michel's dialogue in French : -Emily : D'où venez-vous ? (Where are you from ?) -Michel : De Paris (From Paris) -Emily : Oh ! J'adore Paris ! Nous y allons chaque printemps ! (Oh, I love Paris! We go there each spring!) -Michel : Ah oui, le printemps à Paris... (Ah yes, the spring in Paris...) -Emily : Un cliché, mais pourtant... (A cliché, yet...) -Michel : C'est si vrai, c'est si vrai ! (It's so true, it's so true!)
I've been to Paris, it's actually kind of dirty, every inch that isn't a popular tourist destination is covered in grafiti (even in absurd places like rooftops and escalators), and the French have different ideas of picking up after dogs.
The reason EMily gets upset and leaves is because she had no idea how much Lorelai struggled. Seeing the shed made Emily face the fact that because she was so difficult, Lorelai chose to raise Rory by herself, and struggled for years meanwhile, her parents were in the position to help her.
Catherine Nieves not true. Emily has a fight with lorelai in the episode later on and explains that the reason she was so upset was because she'd offered to help her with rory but lorelai would rather have lived in a tool shed behind an inn with a newborn child than accept help from her mother.
Catherine Nieves The miniseries made me realize just how much Emily and Lorelai are alike....and how much no one ever (save maybe Richard ) realized that.
Catherine Nieves absolutely! I think she was upset or devastated even at the state of life lorelai and rory had(given that emily was rich and all; living in a tool shed with no proper bathroom was inconceivable). Lorelai is her only daughter and she wants her to have the BEST that life has to offer. Also, she was mad at lorelai for choosing to live like this purposely just because she has issues with them. Bless Rory for her innocence, she had no idea what a proper house should be...that's why Emily was so intent on making a proper room for rory in their house. Wouldn't anyone of you be shocked if your child chose to live in such a state(i'm not being a snob here, just sympathizing with Emily 😉)
I feel like people don’t empathise with Lorelai enough. Imagine how miserable you’d have to be at home to be willing to leave at seventeen with a one year old daughter. Emily is verbally and emotionally abusive. It’s hard to call it that because she does love Lorelai, but that doesn’t mean she treats her well. In season one especially, we see her making mean jabs at her, about her ‘wasted potential’ and her parenting of Rory, and how casually critical she is, and how she lashes out whether it’s fair or not. Throughout the series we see how controlling she is, what she’s willing to do to get her way, and how she treats people she doesn’t like. Now, imagine how hard it must have been for Lorelai to live with Emily after Lorelai had gotten pregnant, and then refused to marry Christopher. I can easily see home getting really unbearable for her.
I think Lorelai gets nothing but empathy and does not deserve it a lot of it. She is exactly like Emily which was the problem-they were both stubborn & had to have things their way. Look how Lorelai reacted when Rory quit Yale. Emily expected her daughter to listen to her the way Emily listened to her parents but Lorelai was rebellious. You do not get pregnant at 16 for following the rules. And Lorelai acts like she made her life what it was but she had a lot of help from Mia taking her in. I know Lorelai worked hard and worked her way up to the successful business woman she became, but she had great starts-first from her pedigree blue blood parents and then from Mia. Emily did not deserve all the disdain Lorelai had for her. Emily was a product of her generation and what she got from it. I love when she shared how much she loved trying on her wedding dress and how it helped Lorelai make her decision about Max. Emily should not be faulted for being who she was. She really did love her daughter, just maybe not always good at expressing it.
@@fairypjm3603 Because Lorelai is the one who is wrong in nearly everything-the way she treated her parents, the way she used Luke & anyone else in town when she needed something, the way she handled her romantic partners, even the way she treated Suki. Lorelai is a spoiled brat & that remained a constant through out the show. The way they wrote her actions at Richard's wake in the reboot just proved that point.
@@annelee8397 yeah I think so too. Emily was so upset because Lorelai hated her life so much that she would rather have lived in a shed like that earning a very small wage and raising a baby on her own than live at home with her parents.
@@TheHillsHousehold she does throughout the series but not without relapsing a bit. The thing to remember about Emily is she’s is a control freak. The more she cares the more she can’t help but try to control you. It’s dysfunctional and narcissistic but it’s coming from an actual place of love. That’s why Emily is still a likable character somehow. That and her fun manipulative antics. Of course if she were a real person I’d hate her but it’s a tv show so I’m allowed to like how awful she is sometimes. Like her firing the maids. Funny on the show but if it were a irl thing I’d hate her guts.
@@Meanie74 I personally am not the biggest fan of Emily, I think she’s pedantic and nasty. Richard, absolutely adored him, but couldn’t stand Emily, really. Don’t get me wrong, a couple of times and I felt for her, but most of the time I wanted to punch her through the screen 😂 obviously, because of the amazing acting, but even when she did try, it didn’t last for long and she would strop like a child again 😂
@@TheHillsHousehold i get it. I love bitches on tv that if they were real I’d hate. Emily def fits there. If a real person abused maids like Emily I’d despise them. But bc it’s Gilmore girls and a lot of bad things just don’t happen and the show is very comforting, I am amused when she does that. If Gilmore Girls were less chicken soup for the soul there’s no way they could get away with it. But Emily does go through some amazing character growth. Look up the scene when Lorelei ask for money in ep 1 vs when she asks for money in the revival. It perfectly illustrates that Emily has grown as a character throughout the show. Also the scene where she’s kicked out of the DAR shows she grew but didn’t change or become less interesting. Also she says “big tits” in that scene
Imagine being a millionaire’s daughter but choosing to live in the shed cuz you can’t live with your parents. Also notice how Rory recalls living in the shed having fond memories, something lorelai doesn’t do while visiting her childhood mansion!
I think one of the reasons Emily became so upset is that this was a part of Lorelai and Rory's life she knew nothing about until Rory told her. It seems she never really knew her daughter and knew very little about her life for years. You definitely sense the loss and frustration Emily experiences and struggles with. It comes up continually in the series. Unfortunately, Emily was so set in her ways that she could never understand or appreciate why Lorelai felt the way she felt about her life with them. At times you could see Lorela felt bad for what she put her parents through, but Emily couldn't seem to grasp what they put Lorelai through.
the look on emilys face is heartbreaking, I know the differeces lorelai and her mother had but i think this is the moment you realise how much emily loves her daughter. but also why they do what they do. thanx for posting. p.s I get it. X
If only I could find the clip when Emily and Mia discussed that time in Lorelei's and Rory's life. Emily berated Mia for not sending Lorelei back home. But in true and loving Mia fashion she expressed kindness, friendship and support when Lorelei needed it the most. In the end Mia sent pictures and mementos back to Emily from that time.
Honestly, I can relate to Lorelai. My parents were suffocating me the same way too and were in constant denial about it. She fled with Rory because she knew her parents too were to know they were gonna raise her the same way they raised Lorelai. All that status and glamorous and perfection were their dreams, not hers, and they didn't even care. And she knew they'd try having Rory be the same way. They were already trying to force her to marry Christopher. Many times. They weren't the independent type, and she wanted Rory to pick her own life to live, and not their way. Emily had no right to feel sorry for herself and Richard because Lorelai wanted her and Rory to live their lives their way and not the Gilmore way. Smh
@LamaaraShishani Yeah but I think leaving was a good choice under this particular circumstance. Her parents were forcing her to be something she wasn't and I don't think that was right. Maybe the way in which she did so was messed up, but her leaving was pretty much a necessity and what she had to do for her baby. Its hard to explain, but I get Lorelai's motives.
“So the horses are up on that hill, and the tennis courts are over there and I’m season one Rory and I’m so cute you’ll forget all about how weird and manipulative I am in the revival”
How do they go to Paris in the spring, when according to both Richard and Emily they go in the fall because it is cheaper?????????? Big plot hole here!
I wouldn't call it dirt poor -- to me it sounds like they had a pretty good set up. Larger than some NYC apartments, and surrounded by beautiful grounds.
@@katrinagolding6772 I think they mean when he introduces himself, one shot shows him reaching out with his left hand, but the next shot shows him using his right hand to take Emily's.
Lorelai is a great and strong woman and should be proud of how she went out on her own and raised her daughter. Rory has never been forced to conform or pressured to do anything because her mother refused to turn into her own mother. Another thing I noticed is how much love Lorelai has for Rory’s best friend Lane (I don’t know if that’s how you spell it) because she takes her in and lets her be herself at her home. Lane comes over to listen to rock music, to practice her drums, and to just be herself when she is scared to do those things at home and that makes me love Lorelai more.
I live in a room that's a third the floorspace of that she'd in a rooming house in a big city and would be over joyed to live in that cabin in that location .
Essentially, a bad child-parent match that had Lorelai wanting to escape very early on. Child and parents were just way too different (parents, snobby -- Lorelai, Groucho Marx), creating a boatload of Lorelai resentment. When she got the chance to go, she went. I like to think that this and much of the other GIlmore Girls "Friday Night Fights" were teachable moments. I don't know if the producers intended these to be simply entertainment; or if they were actually trying to show people (parents/wealthy people) what NOT to do and how NOT to act ... Sort of a modern day "Rin Tin Tin" or "The Lone Ranger" ... where much of this country's morality was taught and now -- unfortunately, in general -- very lost.
I loved this show, and I understood Lorelai. Regardless of how rich her parents were, she was not allowed to be herself, or make her own decisions. I understood exactly how she felt. At some point in her teenage years she'd had enough and she decided her freedom was more important than living in luxury. My escape was joining the Army, the day after I turned eighteen. My parents went so far as to try to force me out but they couldn't do it because I was over eighteen. I went in as a private and left as an officer with a college degree. It was my decision and life, and I never regretted it for a second. My birth parents were never interested in me as a person, but only me as a reflection of them. I had three younger siblings, and each choose their own paths. If you can't deal with a parent on an adult level, there's no real reason to try.
Man, that was tactless of Rory; but where did Emily think they were living, one of the rooms? I know its a comedy-drama show but I always wondered how Lorelai was able to save money for a big two-story house in a good neighborhood while working as a maid and raising a child alone! Its because she wasn't paying rent.
Rory, young girl, having good memories of this place was not being tactless. How, I mean really how would she know that Emily would react like that. You can see on Rory's face the inability to understand Emily's reaction. That's not tactless, that's lacking life. And Lorelai is a manger of the inn. Sole manager. That should pay some bucks. Yes, rent free helps, but management skills and budgetting skills (of which we see all the time in the series) got her the home, in a place that hardly has a bad neighbourhood.
@@ValeriePallaoro Your points are valid. The older I get, the harder time I have with the logistics of Lorelai's situation. I still think Rory should have considered her grandmother's feelings a bit more. Rory knows her mother and her grandmother have vconflict around Lorelai's running away with her, (rightly so) and that cabin was a reminder of that betrayal. Rory could have handled that better, and showed her the dining room instead. I acknowledge that Rory, as a character, might lack life experience to anticipate how Emily would feel at the thought of Lorelai choosing a underprivileged life over her. This is the ONE TIME I feel sympathy for Emily. But at the very least, Rory should have acknowledged the cabin was a reminder.
Imo, Emily is upset that Lorelei chose to live that way. Another reason could be that Rory seemed to have such good memories, because she and Lorelei are best friends. Emily isn't close at with her own daughter.
This scene annoyed me. When Rory tells her grandmother how she loved growing up there, listening to music and watching the parties at the Inn and how cozy Lorelai made it for them, Emily should have been happy that it made Rory happy and that she has fond memories of growing up there. Instead she can't help but to be a snob at the thought of them living in a SHED.
Emily was already feeling out of place, she wasn’t prepared to see were her daughter and granddaughter lived. I doubt she turnt her nose up, she was just overwhelmed.
@@rosered3608Emily is seldom overwhelmed by anything. Even later on in the same episode, when she and Lorelai are in the bedroom she fixed for Rory, and Lorelai is explaining how she felt at the time, Emily refuses to see it from Lorelai's point of view. She lacks empathy even after so many years have passed. She makes everything about her.
@@CDG1228 Emily's anger is the chief reason we can see that she is easily, very easily sometimes, overwhelmed. And sometimes at the least little thing. It is clear from her face and her fear, that this simple place being all that it was for her 16 year old daughter and her baby overwhelmed her enough to have her run away. She couldn't even hold it together to be polite enough to Rory, to stop and look. Anger and fear can, and often do, have the same roots. In this case, the anger we constantly see in Emily is born out of the constraint of trying to hold it together when she has no control. Did she have control over her daughter getting pregnant, did she have control over her daughter running away from home with her baby, did she have any control over her daughter severing all connections with her. I am, here, siding with Lorelai. She did all she could to be the best mom for Rory, but we can still see that Emily is overwhelmed by the simple fact that this home was all her daughter and grand daughter had in their first years, and that she couldn't protect them from that.
Lori and rory had to live in the shed and I saw that shed that looks pretty damn good pretty damn comfy for being a single mom she was welcomed into a town given a job given a place to live so the live so the only expenses she had would have been food I'm sure the end keeper gave her that too too so don't tell me how hard of a life they had because they always had somebody help in the moment nd when they really needed it all they had to do was go ton mom and dad because l after all I'm a Gilmore snobby immature brats. Lorelai acts like she 12 and rory is not that smart. She reads alot. Big deal. Everything was handed to them. Rory was given a car for graduation paid private school ivy league college and a tryst fund at 24 0r 26. Entitled spoiled brats who acted like they were poor yet everything they did sugguested that they werent. An no offence she was a maid so she wouodnt be able to make that much money. Also waht about the 75 thousand dollars given to lorelai from dad plus christopher gave money to lorelai also.
Emily was the mother she thought she was supposed to be - had never been out of the bubble of the rich and didn't know any different, plus she had an entitled attitude and a misdirected personality. This completely clashed with Lorelai's free spirit and utter rejection of everything Emily thought was important, hence the teenage rebellion and subsequent breakdown. Lorelai was only ever going to do her life on her own terms, and it took this long for Emily to step outside her own bubble to see Lorelai as a whole person who succeeded in spite of Emily's protestations.
Given what was seen of Mia Bass, the owner of the Inn, I find it impossible to believe that it didn't have heating. The fact that Rory seems to have nothing but positive memories about the place clinches it for me.
@@Melted-Kuchi-kopi What is wrong with you; It's a story with a script written for the characters. The would hardly lie about Rory's memories of her childhood. That has not happened in any other episode. Why would you make things up like this?
@@ValeriePallaoro I'm not saying the good parts of what she remembers are a lie. I'm just saying that be she she's so young she probably doesn't remember some of the bad parts of living in a shed. it's niave to think that everything about living in that little shed was good.
After watching this series again, the parents were correct. Lorelai was in the wrong. All they wanted was the best for her like all good parents but she rebelled and had to fuck ending up with a bastard child.
Excuse me, but first off, you never call a child born out of wedlock a bastard. That is a horrible thing for you to say. You should be ashamed of yourself. Second off, Lorelai left because her parents didnt treat her like an individual. They treated her as just an extension of their status. They never took her feelings into consideration and wanted her to be silent and obedient. Third, Chris was the one who dipped out on Lorelai and Rory. Not getting married is one thing, but he was barely involved in his daughters life at all. Wheres your condemnation for the dead beat father?
@@Beck-SteinYou better cleanse the darkness in your heart. Because kids born out of wedlock are probably far purer and closer to God than you could ever hope to be.
When I was a teenager I liked this show because I missed a lot I was only paying attention to you know the boyfriend girlfriend stuff that's it look and we're looking back on it as adult it's a trash show the best characters in the show was Emily and Richard Lorelai and rory were spoiled in a spoiled immature brats the.
Everyone seems to love emily except lorelai! I mean when she needs help she runs to her parents but she isnt gonna take any of their advices or doesnt wanna involve them in her life except for emergency! She is just spoilt
Lorelai only needed help one time and that was for Rory. You act like she went running to her parents all the time which isn't true. She rather find a way then to ask her parents for help.
I’m sorry Rory was just sickeningly naive here, how could she think for a second that showing her grandmother a tool she’d as an apartment would impress her? Could she not see how distressed she was, I know Rory is suppose to be smart but she clearly lacking in observational skills!! She should’ve known enough about her and everything Lorelei has ever taught her that she wouldn’t approve! I used to love Rory awkwardness, now it’s just cringey 😬
It's a story, it's a script, it's a tv series. It's made up. Why you would go to the effort of despising a written mom and daughter set of characters like this, says more about the lack in your ability to live and let live. Crikeys gal, get a grip.
Honestly, I can relate to Lorelai. My parents were suffocating me the same way too and were in constant denial about it. She fled with Rory because she knew her parents too were to know they were gonna raise her the same way they raised Lorelai. All that status and glamorous and perfection were their dreams, not hers, and they didn't even care. And she knew they'd try having Rory be the same way. They were already trying to force her to marry Christopher. Many times. They weren't the independent type, and she wanted Rory to pick her own life to live, and not their way. Emily had no right to feel sorry for herself and Richard because Lorelai wanted her and Rory to live their lives their way and not the Gilmore way. Smh
That’s crap her mum loved her, cared for her. Ok she could be intense. But she took that baby away to live in a shed. Coming from someone who’s mum DIDNT care at all, who got nothing, she didn’t know how lucky she was. She was a brat. She grow up being horrible to her mum. X
@@samanthahowse570 I'm not saying that Emily was a monster, but that kind of pressure and parenting doesn't work on everyone. I mean, how hard was it to accept that your daughter just didn't share the same interest as you? There's a difference giving a child what they need and giving a child what you need. Lorelai did a great job. At least her parenting never drove Rory away. If parents had bondage with their children as these two do, who knows life would've been better for Lorelai and her mother. But then she never would've had Rory
@@rogueryder3285 it is dangerous the toxicity and manipulation emily used guess if your parent wasn;t like that it is harder to understand the severe damage done Pretty sure this affected Lore through her whole life and relationships
Actually, it's both. She was upset that Lorelai preferred to live in that tiny little shed instead of her humongous mansion, as long as she got away from her parents; and also upset that she missed out on so much.
The way Kelly Bishop left and put on those sunglasses was so beautifully done. She's a stellar actress.
I’ve said that for years she is a underrated talent
She and Edward Herrmann never got the credit they deserved for making the show what it was. Those could've easily been two-dimensional, cardboard characters, but thanks to the efforts of those two actors and the writers, they were anything but.
For those who need a translation of Emily and Michel's dialogue in French :
-Emily : D'où venez-vous ? (Where are you from ?)
-Michel : De Paris (From Paris)
-Emily : Oh ! J'adore Paris ! Nous y allons chaque printemps ! (Oh, I love Paris! We go there each spring!)
-Michel : Ah oui, le printemps à Paris... (Ah yes, the spring in Paris...)
-Emily : Un cliché, mais pourtant... (A cliché, yet...)
-Michel : C'est si vrai, c'est si vrai ! (It's so true, it's so true!)
Thank you ☺️
I thought they only went to Europe in the fall
I've been to Paris, it's actually kind of dirty, every inch that isn't a popular tourist destination is covered in grafiti (even in absurd places like rooftops and escalators), and the French have different ideas of picking up after dogs.
That’s the first time Michel seemed happy to see another human being 😂😂😂
not sure if she is considered as a human being
The reason EMily gets upset and leaves is because she had no idea how much Lorelai struggled. Seeing the shed made Emily face the fact that because she was so difficult, Lorelai chose to raise Rory by herself, and struggled for years meanwhile, her parents were in the position to help her.
Catherine Nieves not true. Emily has a fight with lorelai in the episode later on and explains that the reason she was so upset was because she'd offered to help her with rory but lorelai would rather have lived in a tool shed behind an inn with a newborn child than accept help from her mother.
Tommy gun Yes, but Emily never knew the extent of Lorelai struggle because she kept it that way.
Catherine Nieves this is never mentioned. It is only your theory
Catherine Nieves The miniseries made me realize just how much Emily and Lorelai are alike....and how much no one ever (save maybe Richard ) realized that.
Catherine Nieves absolutely! I think she was upset or devastated even at the state of life lorelai and rory had(given that emily was rich and all; living in a tool shed with no proper bathroom was inconceivable). Lorelai is her only daughter and she wants her to have the BEST that life has to offer. Also, she was mad at lorelai for choosing to live like this purposely just because she has issues with them. Bless Rory for her innocence, she had no idea what a proper house should be...that's why Emily was so intent on making a proper room for rory in their house. Wouldn't anyone of you be shocked if your child chose to live in such a state(i'm not being a snob here, just sympathizing with Emily 😉)
One of the most brilliant scenes I’ve ever seen The actress is portraying so many emotions in one scene
what episode was this?
@@isabelasolace8431season 1 Emily in Wonderland
She brought so much to Emily, no one else could've played her the way Kelly Bishop did. What an actress
I feel like people don’t empathise with Lorelai enough. Imagine how miserable you’d have to be at home to be willing to leave at seventeen with a one year old daughter. Emily is verbally and emotionally abusive. It’s hard to call it that because she does love Lorelai, but that doesn’t mean she treats her well. In season one especially, we see her making mean jabs at her, about her ‘wasted potential’ and her parenting of Rory, and how casually critical she is, and how she lashes out whether it’s fair or not. Throughout the series we see how controlling she is, what she’s willing to do to get her way, and how she treats people she doesn’t like. Now, imagine how hard it must have been for Lorelai to live with Emily after Lorelai had gotten pregnant, and then refused to marry Christopher. I can easily see home getting really unbearable for her.
I think Lorelai gets nothing but empathy and does not deserve it a lot of it. She is exactly like Emily which was the problem-they were both stubborn & had to have things their way. Look how Lorelai reacted when Rory quit Yale. Emily expected her daughter to listen to her the way Emily listened to her parents but Lorelai was rebellious. You do not get pregnant at 16 for following the rules. And Lorelai acts like she made her life what it was but she had a lot of help from Mia taking her in.
I know Lorelai worked hard and worked her way up to the successful business woman she became, but she had great starts-first from her pedigree blue blood parents and then from Mia. Emily did not deserve all the disdain Lorelai had for her. Emily was a product of her generation and what she got from it. I love when she shared how much she loved trying on her wedding dress and how it helped Lorelai make her decision about Max. Emily should not be faulted for being who she was. She really did love her daughter, just maybe not always good at expressing it.
@@nickimorelli9991that’s just objectively untrue. most fans of the show emphasize with emily get more than they do lorelai.
@@fairypjm3603 LOL you sound pompous and misinformed.
Love mia❤
@@fairypjm3603 Because Lorelai is the one who is wrong in nearly everything-the way she treated her parents, the way she used Luke & anyone else in town when she needed something, the way she handled her romantic partners, even the way she treated Suki. Lorelai is a spoiled brat & that remained a constant through out the show. The way they wrote her actions at Richard's wake in the reboot just proved that point.
this was when she realised that her wealth didn't get her everything especially her daughter poignant scene
what episode was this?
@@isabelasolace8431 I’m not sure sorry!:(
@@isabelasolace8431 season 1 ep 19
Emily has by far the strongest scenes in the entire series.
I thought she was upset because it reminded her of a whole part of their lives she didn't get to be a part of.
@@annelee8397 yeah I think so too. Emily was so upset because Lorelai hated her life so much that she would rather have lived in a shed like that earning a very small wage and raising a baby on her own than live at home with her parents.
The thing is though, even after that, she still didn’t even try to be less ‘emily’ to build a better relationship with her daughter 🤷🏼♀️
@@TheHillsHousehold she does throughout the series but not without relapsing a bit. The thing to remember about Emily is she’s is a control freak. The more she cares the more she can’t help but try to control you. It’s dysfunctional and narcissistic but it’s coming from an actual place of love. That’s why Emily is still a likable character somehow. That and her fun manipulative antics. Of course if she were a real person I’d hate her but it’s a tv show so I’m allowed to like how awful she is sometimes. Like her firing the maids. Funny on the show but if it were a irl thing I’d hate her guts.
@@Meanie74 I personally am not the biggest fan of Emily, I think she’s pedantic and nasty. Richard, absolutely adored him, but couldn’t stand Emily, really. Don’t get me wrong, a couple of times and I felt for her, but most of the time I wanted to punch her through the screen 😂 obviously, because of the amazing acting, but even when she did try, it didn’t last for long and she would strop like a child again 😂
@@TheHillsHousehold i get it. I love bitches on tv that if they were real I’d hate. Emily def fits there. If a real person abused maids like Emily I’d despise them. But bc it’s Gilmore girls and a lot of bad things just don’t happen and the show is very comforting, I am amused when she does that. If Gilmore Girls were less chicken soup for the soul there’s no way they could get away with it. But Emily does go through some amazing character growth. Look up the scene when Lorelei ask for money in ep 1 vs when she asks for money in the revival. It perfectly illustrates that Emily has grown as a character throughout the show. Also the scene where she’s kicked out of the DAR shows she grew but didn’t change or become less interesting. Also she says “big tits” in that scene
Imagine being a millionaire’s daughter but choosing to live in the shed cuz you can’t live with your parents. Also notice how Rory recalls living in the shed having fond memories, something lorelai doesn’t do while visiting her childhood mansion!
I think one of the reasons Emily became so upset is that this was a part of Lorelai and Rory's life she knew nothing about until Rory told her. It seems she never really knew her daughter and knew very little about her life for years. You definitely sense the loss and frustration Emily experiences and struggles with. It comes up continually in the series.
Unfortunately, Emily was so set in her ways that she could never understand or appreciate why Lorelai felt the way she felt about her life with them. At times you could see Lorela felt bad for what she put her parents through, but Emily couldn't seem to grasp what they put Lorelai through.
the look on emilys face is heartbreaking, I know the differeces lorelai and her mother had but i think this is the moment you realise how much emily loves her daughter. but also why they do what they do.
thanx for posting. p.s I get it. X
"mom hi!"
"mom hi!"
lol!
“I don’t mind. I wish I had a camera, but I don’t mind”
If only I could find the clip when Emily and Mia discussed that time in Lorelei's and Rory's life. Emily berated Mia for not sending Lorelei back home. But in true and loving Mia fashion she expressed kindness, friendship and support when Lorelei needed it the most. In the end Mia sent pictures and mementos back to Emily from that time.
Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/9oc7VqjGUDc/v-deo.html
what episode was this?
Mia was her real mother... the one she needed.
@@randalllaue4042 They why didn’t help a 16 year old with a baby to atleast have a room with a bathroom?
This popped up on my recommendations. The 12 years ago makes me sad. I miss those times.
"Whats up working girl!" Gets me every time!
Honestly, I can relate to Lorelai. My parents were suffocating me the same way too and were in constant denial about it. She fled with Rory because she knew her parents too were to know they were gonna raise her the same way they raised Lorelai. All that status and glamorous and perfection were their dreams, not hers, and they didn't even care. And she knew they'd try having Rory be the same way. They were already trying to force her to marry Christopher. Many times. They weren't the independent type, and she wanted Rory to pick her own life to live, and not their way. Emily had no right to feel sorry for herself and Richard because Lorelai wanted her and Rory to live their lives their way and not the Gilmore way. Smh
@LamaaraShishani Yeah but I think leaving was a good choice under this particular circumstance. Her parents were forcing her to be something she wasn't and I don't think that was right. Maybe the way in which she did so was messed up, but her leaving was pretty much a necessity and what she had to do for her baby. Its hard to explain, but I get Lorelai's motives.
The tool shed is bigger than.I remembered. It's actually not that bad for a single person (for a mom and a child it might be but Rory was little).
“So the horses are up on that hill, and the tennis courts are over there and I’m season one Rory and I’m so cute you’ll forget all about how weird and manipulative I am in the revival”
Idk what was so bad about that place, I mean it’s not a mansion but it’s small and comfortable and it’s literally the cottage life.
I adore both Emily and Lorelai and wish they had a better relationship 😭 they are my some of my FAVORITE characters on the show...among many others 😂
How do they go to Paris in the spring, when according to both Richard and Emily they go in the fall because it is cheaper?????????? Big plot hole here!
For all the people that call Rory privileged, let's not forget that she grew up like this, dirt poor. She got spoiled as a teenager and older.
I wouldn't call it dirt poor -- to me it sounds like they had a pretty good set up. Larger than some NYC apartments, and surrounded by beautiful grounds.
@@justcogitating they didn't even have a private bathroom!
2020 anyone?
Yes
i would love to have lived there!!
séing emilys face makes me cry
probably irrelevant now but it bugs me how they switched Michel's arm when he and Emily greeted each other.
What do you mean?
what?
@@katrinagolding6772 I think they mean when he introduces himself, one shot shows him reaching out with his left hand, but the next shot shows him using his right hand to take Emily's.
Lorelai is a great and strong woman and should be proud of how she went out on her own and raised her daughter. Rory has never been forced to conform or pressured to do anything because her mother refused to turn into her own mother.
Another thing I noticed is how much love Lorelai has for Rory’s best friend Lane (I don’t know if that’s how you spell it) because she takes her in and lets her be herself at her home. Lane comes over to listen to rock music, to practice her drums, and to just be herself when she is scared to do those things at home and that makes me love Lorelai more.
Emily and Lorelai are so goddamn complex. I no fooling lay awake at night thinking about it sometimes.
Rory: mom, hi!👋
Lorelai: mom, hi!👋
cause she saw how they lived when Loreli left the house...she was more suprised
i love this. if only everybody could have a child like rory.
I agree. For the first couple seasons, anyway.
@@Tonetwisters Not to mention the fucking revival. Worst character development ever.
It's expensive to have child who wants ivy league education
@joseph1985 all children are spoiled by their parents and grandparents
@joseph1985 you never once was spoiled by your patents or grandparents.
I vould have liked to see that last scene with Rory showing Logan the tool shed.
OMGGG!!!! Yesss that would make their perfect relationship even better
I think by time season 7 cane along the shed was gone.
@@A_MARVELous_Bookworm and i doubt Logan w our take Rory seriously if she showed him the shed.
She pisses me off, but I feel like I have to love her sometimes.
I live in a room that's a third the floorspace of that she'd in a rooming house in a big city and would be over joyed to live in that cabin in that location .
Essentially, a bad child-parent match that had Lorelai wanting to escape very early on. Child and parents were just way too different (parents, snobby -- Lorelai, Groucho Marx), creating a boatload of Lorelai resentment. When she got the chance to go, she went.
I like to think that this and much of the other GIlmore Girls "Friday Night Fights" were teachable moments. I don't know if the producers intended these to be simply entertainment; or if they were actually trying to show people (parents/wealthy people) what NOT to do and how NOT to act ... Sort of a modern day "Rin Tin Tin" or "The Lone Ranger" ... where much of this country's morality was taught and now -- unfortunately, in general -- very lost.
I loved this show, and I understood Lorelai. Regardless of how rich her parents were, she was not allowed to be herself, or make her own decisions. I understood exactly how she felt. At some point in her teenage years she'd had enough and she decided her freedom was more important than living in luxury. My escape was joining the Army, the day after I turned eighteen. My parents went so far as to try to force me out but they couldn't do it because I was over eighteen. I went in as a private and left as an officer with a college degree. It was my decision and life, and I never regretted it for a second. My birth parents were never interested in me as a person, but only me as a reflection of them. I had three younger siblings, and each choose their own paths. If you can't deal with a parent on an adult level, there's no real reason to try.
I feel weird right now,
I saw the title and got excited, like
"oh ya, I am totally in the mood to feel sad"
Man, that was tactless of Rory; but where did Emily think they were living, one of the rooms? I know its a comedy-drama show but I always wondered how Lorelai was able to save money for a big two-story house in a good neighborhood while working as a maid and raising a child alone! Its because she wasn't paying rent.
Rory, young girl, having good memories of this place was not being tactless. How, I mean really how would she know that Emily would react like that. You can see on Rory's face the inability to understand Emily's reaction. That's not tactless, that's lacking life. And Lorelai is a manger of the inn. Sole manager. That should pay some bucks. Yes, rent free helps, but management skills and budgetting skills (of which we see all the time in the series) got her the home, in a place that hardly has a bad neighbourhood.
@@ValeriePallaoro Your points are valid. The older I get, the harder time I have with the logistics of Lorelai's situation. I still think Rory should have considered her grandmother's feelings a bit more. Rory knows her mother and her grandmother have vconflict around Lorelai's running away with her, (rightly so) and that cabin was a reminder of that betrayal. Rory could have handled that better, and showed her the dining room instead. I acknowledge that Rory, as a character, might lack life experience to anticipate how Emily would feel at the thought of Lorelai choosing a underprivileged life over her. This is the ONE TIME I feel sympathy for Emily. But at the very least, Rory should have acknowledged the cabin was a reminder.
Imo, Emily is upset that Lorelei chose to live that way. Another reason could be that Rory seemed to have such good memories, because she and Lorelei are best friends. Emily isn't close at with her own daughter.
I don't know whats wrong with the tool shed. I like it.
1:31 HAHA just a gilmore girls moment, they always have something funny to say to every situation :D
Also lorelai took rory to work so never had to pay a babysitter.
That Rune was always mean
@williedearest i think it was season 2 : emily in wonderland
This scene annoyed me. When Rory tells her grandmother how she loved growing up there, listening to music and watching the parties at the Inn and how cozy Lorelai made it for them, Emily should have been happy that it made Rory happy and that she has fond memories of growing up there.
Instead she can't help but to be a snob at the thought of them living in a SHED.
Or,
Maybe she was upset that she was unable to give her daughter the simple life she craved.
Emily was already feeling out of place, she wasn’t prepared to see were her daughter and granddaughter lived. I doubt she turnt her nose up, she was just overwhelmed.
@@rosered3608Emily is seldom overwhelmed by anything. Even later on in the same episode, when she and Lorelai are in the bedroom she fixed for Rory, and Lorelai is explaining how she felt at the time, Emily refuses to see it from Lorelai's point of view. She lacks empathy even after so many years have passed. She makes everything about her.
@@CDG1228 Emily's anger is the chief reason we can see that she is easily, very easily sometimes, overwhelmed. And sometimes at the least little thing. It is clear from her face and her fear, that this simple place being all that it was for her 16 year old daughter and her baby overwhelmed her enough to have her run away. She couldn't even hold it together to be polite enough to Rory, to stop and look. Anger and fear can, and often do, have the same roots. In this case, the anger we constantly see in Emily is born out of the constraint of trying to hold it together when she has no control. Did she have control over her daughter getting pregnant, did she have control over her daughter running away from home with her baby, did she have any control over her daughter severing all connections with her. I am, here, siding with Lorelai. She did all she could to be the best mom for Rory, but we can still see that Emily is overwhelmed by the simple fact that this home was all her daughter and grand daughter had in their first years, and that she couldn't protect them from that.
Emily is never happy unless it's her ideas.
Lori and rory had to live in the shed and I saw that shed that looks pretty damn good pretty damn comfy for being a single mom she was welcomed into a town given a job given a place to live so the live so the only expenses she had would have been food I'm sure the end keeper gave her that too too so don't tell me how hard of a life they had because they always had somebody help in the moment nd when they really needed it all they had to do was go ton mom and dad because l after all I'm a Gilmore snobby immature brats. Lorelai acts like she 12 and rory is not that smart. She reads alot. Big deal. Everything was handed to them. Rory was given a car for graduation paid private school ivy league college and a tryst fund at 24 0r 26. Entitled spoiled brats who acted like they were poor yet everything they did sugguested that they werent. An no offence she was a maid so she wouodnt be able to make that much money. Also waht about the 75 thousand dollars given to lorelai from dad plus christopher gave money to lorelai also.
Love the michele and Emily gilmore
if lorelai decided to runa way from her parents at 16 and pratically homeless, emily must have been an TERRIBLE mother
Emily was the mother she thought she was supposed to be - had never been out of the bubble of the rich and didn't know any different, plus she had an entitled attitude and a misdirected personality.
This completely clashed with Lorelai's free spirit and utter rejection of everything Emily thought was important, hence the teenage rebellion and subsequent breakdown. Lorelai was only ever going to do her life on her own terms, and it took this long for Emily to step outside her own bubble to see Lorelai as a whole person who succeeded in spite of Emily's protestations.
Small. Dark. Wanted in four states.
I think this scene is confusing because during the cat funeral lorelai mentioned that they had been there
😢
8 years ago......
episode?
Well, the end is sad.
I can’t tell is the shed warm or has heating in anyway. That would be horrible if it’s not especially for a baby.
Given what was seen of Mia Bass, the owner of the Inn, I find it impossible to believe that it didn't have heating. The fact that Rory seems to have nothing but positive memories about the place clinches it for me.
@@Ares99999 well she was presumably very little so it's possible that she's only remembering the good parts of it
@@Melted-Kuchi-kopi What is wrong with you; It's a story with a script written for the characters. The would hardly lie about Rory's memories of her childhood. That has not happened in any other episode. Why would you make things up like this?
@@ValeriePallaoro I'm not saying the good parts of what she remembers are a lie. I'm just saying that be she she's so young she probably doesn't remember some of the bad parts of living in a shed. it's niave to think that everything about living in that little shed was good.
If Mia knew it wasn't heated she wouldn't let Lorelai and Rory stay there. I'm sure they hate floor heaters.
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After watching this series again, the parents were correct. Lorelai was in the wrong. All they wanted was the best for her like all good parents but she rebelled and had to fuck ending up with a bastard child.
Excuse me, but first off, you never call a child born out of wedlock a bastard. That is a horrible thing for you to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Second off, Lorelai left because her parents didnt treat her like an individual. They treated her as just an extension of their status. They never took her feelings into consideration and wanted her to be silent and obedient.
Third, Chris was the one who dipped out on Lorelai and Rory. Not getting married is one thing, but he was barely involved in his daughters life at all. Wheres your condemnation for the dead beat father?
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl bastard
@@Beck-SteinYou better cleanse the darkness in your heart. Because kids born out of wedlock are probably far purer and closer to God than you could ever hope to be.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl yeah rt. Bastard children are more likely to be in prison
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl look at data, 85% of inmates are bastard children
goddamn it roon you ruined the sadness
When I was a teenager I liked this show because I missed a lot I was only paying attention to you know the boyfriend girlfriend stuff that's it look and we're looking back on it as adult it's a trash show the best characters in the show was Emily and Richard Lorelai and rory were spoiled in a spoiled immature brats the.
Gilmore girls gotta thought pandemic influenza virus 😍😁
Lorelei and rory act like they were 15 for the whole show both of the mother daughter act like 15 for the whole 7 seasons
Nothing wrong with that. I liked that they had fun and not be snobbs
Okay, why she let a girl and her baby sleep in the shed in New England...in the winter?
it could've been outfitted with heating, i mean it had running water and a tub after all
Episoode
sad moment?
Sookie is also another character who's immature and Bratty also can't stand her
why is Emily wearing trainers...? o.O
Stephanie Hill they walked around the town.
Everyone seems to love emily except lorelai! I mean when she needs help she runs to her parents but she isnt gonna take any of their advices or doesnt wanna involve them in her life except for emergency! She is just spoilt
Lorelai only needed help one time and that was for Rory. You act like she went running to her parents all the time which isn't true. She rather find a way then to ask her parents for help.
I’m sorry Rory was just sickeningly naive here, how could she think for a second that showing her grandmother a tool she’d as an apartment would impress her? Could she not see how distressed she was, I know Rory is suppose to be smart but she clearly lacking in observational skills!! She should’ve known enough about her and everything Lorelei has ever taught her that she wouldn’t approve! I used to love Rory awkwardness, now it’s just cringey 😬
WOW shit on Rory for being proud of where she lived and wants to show her grandma.
Lorelei and Roy really are the worst the worst friends worst girlfriends worst everything and all they care about is themselves
It's a story, it's a script, it's a tv series. It's made up. Why you would go to the effort of despising a written mom and daughter set of characters like this, says more about the lack in your ability to live and let live. Crikeys gal, get a grip.
No they are not. Are you not paying attention to the show.
Wow Paris is that you.
Honestly, I can relate to Lorelai. My parents were suffocating me the same way too and were in constant denial about it. She fled with Rory because she knew her parents too were to know they were gonna raise her the same way they raised Lorelai. All that status and glamorous and perfection were their dreams, not hers, and they didn't even care. And she knew they'd try having Rory be the same way. They were already trying to force her to marry Christopher. Many times. They weren't the independent type, and she wanted Rory to pick her own life to live, and not their way. Emily had no right to feel sorry for herself and Richard because Lorelai wanted her and Rory to live their lives their way and not the Gilmore way. Smh
That’s crap her mum loved her, cared for her. Ok she could be intense. But she took that baby away to live in a shed. Coming from someone who’s mum DIDNT care at all, who got nothing, she didn’t know how lucky she was. She was a brat. She grow up being horrible to her mum. X
@@samanthahowse570 I'm not saying that Emily was a monster, but that kind of pressure and parenting doesn't work on everyone. I mean, how hard was it to accept that your daughter just didn't share the same interest as you? There's a difference giving a child what they need and giving a child what you need. Lorelai did a great job. At least her parenting never drove Rory away. If parents had bondage with their children as these two do, who knows life would've been better for Lorelai and her mother. But then she never would've had Rory
@@rogueryder3285 it is dangerous the toxicity and manipulation emily used guess if your parent wasn;t like that it is harder to understand the severe damage done
Pretty sure this affected Lore through her whole life and relationships
@@Geengarner it's sad
@@samanthahowse570 she wasn’t a brat. You can only appreciate one end of the spectrum because of your experience…but the other end can be just as bad