The GOD OF WAR rant
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- his impressions are pretty funny tho
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Stream date: 11-15-2022
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To that guy who said: "Noone will watch this VOD 6 months from now" at 15:28 , Im here one and a half years later lol
6 months later gang reporting in 🫡
Reporting July 2024 !
me too!
Amen brother
Guys you all missed your time window by a year
I deeply appreciate him cutting himself off right before reverse engineering different levels of smithing stones while ranting against different levels of smithing stones.
The "why doesn't he just punch through the door" bit of the rant genuinely reminded me why enjoyed Doom 2016 so much. It really knows what are the fun bits and what is just filler. whenever doom guy looks like he's gonna be stopped by some locked or malfunctioning thing that might need some kind of puzzle aspect to solve he just breaks it or "punches through the door" to get to the next fun bit quicker.
Odd comment because I distinctly remember dropping DOOM 2016 because I didn't know how to continue, one time it was because of a key card or some such thing. Maybe I'm just rarted, but it turned me off so badly that I've just never played on beyond that point
@@Isaax how lol, the game literally gives you a huge marker on the map and compass to tell you exactly where to go
@@pm0532 I don't remember that, it might have been user error. But at the same time, if your game needs a big marker to tell you where to go, well... I don't know man
It doesnt need it, bc most people will be able to find their way, but they include it for people like you who still manage to get lost, at which point I'm sorry to say its a skill issue @@Isaax
@@toby8261 ok
your going to be able to put in your resume
"ive photoshopped this bald guy about 300 times" sooner than later
too real...
supremely underrated comment
Love tuning into NL's weekly rant about how every game should be more like Isaac
and Isaac should be more like older versions of Isaac
@@bmranr damn new Isaac versions, they ruined Isaac
AAA games are genuine dogshit
he's right though
@@B2Rolanddo you know why?
one thing NL got 100% right is the npcs pointing out what you are supposed to be looking at /interacting with every 5 seconds when you just started looking at the obstacles 10 seconds ago
Yeah that shit was wack. Loved the game as a whole though. Except for that 2-3 hour atreus fetch quest that was not it
@@RozKounelakion I loved the whole game too but for some reason it just didnt have the magic that 2018 gow had for me. The sequence of kratos getting the blades of chaos in 2018 was like peak gaming for me. I feel like ragnarok is probably the better game in every department but it didnt capture me the same way
@@AnthonyJSullivan yeah I'll admit that the blades of chaos scene was something else that first time around. But after ragnarok's first hour I was hooked on that as well lol
@@RozKounelakion ragnarok excelled in way more areas than 2018 did too to be fair. the final act of ragnarok is really good. we straight up go gow 3 mode out here with that assault
@@AnthonyJSullivan I really liked the combat as well. It felt really good to just fight NPC's in ragnarok. Some of the complaints I had about GOW 2018 were the enemy variety and the fact that each enemy had like one execution animation and they fixed both of those things, made the combat more enjoyable and satisfying etc. I really think I can count the complaints I have with ragnarok on my fingers and half of them can be attributed to the fact that I played it on a base 2014 ps4 lmao
I can't stop laughing when kate hit him with the "who asked" and then "who cares" lmao
the true chat's champion
People hatin on nl now, will be the first ones to lap up "An in depth critique of God of war Ragnarok" 8 hr long video by John Jacob Paul Gervais Anderson Geller 4months from now
So true. I can't wait for the mandatory "The Disappointing Truth of God of War Ragnarok." And then in chat people will ask him if he's seen it LOL
Btw its me, Im people 🤣
None of these video essay andys ever seem to have watched the GOATs of the medium. ua-cam.com/video/IERHMMXeshc/v-deo.html
Lmao exactly, and then they will type “yeah I always said the reboot games were annoying and worse than the OGs”
Holyyy based
Pretty upsetting to see NL bashing these small games while on his hands and knees for Vampire Survivors….
I agree! But, small? Really?
@@_MartinChess_ its a joke
"I can't unlock this door WHY DON'T YOU HAVE HIM JUST FUCKIN PUNCH THROUGH THE DOOR"
ngl he is kind of spitting
That shit is in every game. In elden ring, someone who rivals the elden lord in strength and power can die to a lowly skeleton
@@_MartinChess_ Yeah but the concept ties that you are a low level nobody , that's the point .
@@_MartinChess_ Okay except most other games aren't trying to convince me that this isn't a game. GOW is trying to convince me that the story I'm seeing is real, once you see shit like "just punch through the door" but games won't let me, then that illusion of it not being a game falls.
@@CeaerCeaer it’s in every game where the main character[s] have any type of powers that aren’t natural
@@CeaerCeaer what the fuck is it about beheading a troll that screams realism to you??? or was it when his son turned into a bear to fight odin and thor??? are you fucking stupid??
The thing is... That violence from the oppressor is simply not the same as violence from the oppressed
Wait he's based ???!!! (since nobody wrote it for me)
So tru bestie
A wise woman once said
@@isdisgudnam 5th grader
Your copy pasted comment from a 50-year old essay is not "based".
It's naive attempt at fake sophistication.
House of Leaves audiobook is a great bit lmfao
I went with the Pale Fire audiobook one time kinda blind and then felt like a real jackass when I figured out the conceit of that book
Can't believe he finally went on a rant here, despite assuring us over and over that doing so was expressly against his intent
"no ones watching this vod 6 months from now" me, watching the vod 8 months from then...
Me, reading this comment 8 months after it was written...
@@blahthebiste7924 me, reading this comment 5 hours after it was written...
Me reading this comment 2 hours later
@@shmittywarbermanjensen1756 Me reading this comment 2 days after it was written
Me reading my comment as I’m writing it
I disagree with some of what NL is saying about GoW specifically but buried beneath is I think a genuinely great point. That gaming media outlets put so much value on big budget triple A games that they overshadow indie games that lack the same spectacle but excel in their gameplay, and that there’s this belief that the triple A game that’s ridiculously massive in scale and graphically advanced is seen as the superior gaming experience by default, and that more value is placed on games that try and do everything rather then just doing one thing exceptionally well. I’d say a better example to use as opposed to God of War is Cyberpunk, considering the game awards treated it similarly, including nominating it way too early despite being way less fun to play then many games released that year that weren’t nominated.
I'd agree that cyberpunk was nominated too early, but at least the developers have brought it up to where it should have been then. Like currently, it really is just right.
@@omniimmortal9950 CDPR never got it anywhere near where they advertised to be. The game still feels lifeless and empty. Individual stories and missions are great, but the world is so janky and un-cyberpunk. It feels more like Saints Row than it does cyberpunk. It would have been better if it were on rails and not "open world"
What are you talking about triple A games get a ton of shit just like Marvel does in the film industry. We should stop acting like we're misunderstood unique quirky fellas for our love towards indie games and AAA games are too below us all when in reality I can't go through a day online without someone shitting on how formulaic AAA games are. NakeyJakey for example, has videos with millions of views critiquing AAA, and they all agree with him. But god no, our belief can't be popular belief. Come on.
@@lautaroescarlon7501 "this one youtuber made a video thats liked" yeah people critique Marvel and many agree, but look at the actual NUMBERS its the biggest most viewed movie franchise EVER. Many people loved Bladerunner2049, and its close to a cinematic failure when it comes to ticket sales.
@@Blaurot Yeah, but the amount of people who think Marvel makes actually outstanding movies is less than those who think they're popcorn flicks. They're popular because it's easy to watch and pass time not because they're genuinely great. Even Marvel fans critique Marvel. The average person doesn't think Marvel Movie 101 is better than Blade Runner, but one is considerably easier to digest than the other.
I kind of want NL to play God of War just so he can throw shade throughout the entire game.
It's very easy to make fun of.
@@HawkOfGP one example?
@@KevinM491 That the entire series sucks?
@@HawkOfGP how?
@@_MartinChess_ They won't ever say how cause they don't have any valid points. Hate just to hate sadly
love the way he scrambles to reassure everyone that he thinks the god of war story is good before going relentless on elden ring dialogue, lmaoo
Slay the spire for best visuals the year cuphead released is a very hot take
Shithead you mean?
I love slay the spire.
Some of the art looks like it was made in ms paint
The art outside of card icons is the weakest part of Spire
That's funny, I avoided slay the spire for the longest time because the art is straight up ugly
Gameplay too good to pass up though
As someone who watched my financé play Ragnarok and was in no way engaged with the story, the bit about riding around on a dogsled while a head talks to you in a Scottish accent made me laugh so hard, I snorted.
I am watching this VOD more than 6 months later.
Imagine listening to this is 2024
I think he nailed it with the point about maximalist game design. So many games nowadays try and do so many different things that the games become less fun to engage with. This includes a lot of indie games as well unfortunately. I can enjoy the odd game like that, but they are very tiring, and most of the time it's just more fun to play a game that does a couple of things very well.
GoW is a prime example of this for me. The story might be good but the gameplay loop gets in the way of truly enjoying the story, and then all the other added mechanics like the rpg systems get in the way of just enjoying the combat. Plus it feels like they restricted the enjoyment of the game for the sake of immersion or world building.
i also think that a ton of design elements in GoW are at odds. the way characters almost immediately will explain what to look at, what it is and where to go makes it seem like they think their target audience is toddlers and then will also have stat descriptions with 2 decimal point percentages expecting anyone to actually focus on them.
Maximallist can work perfectly well, its just needs to tie together well.
Persona games and Yakuza games do this well, there's a lot of side activities in each but they aren't there just to have more activities but because it feeds into a deeper motivation in the games.
In persona its all based around interacting with the world and letting the characters develop from it, in Yakuza its about making the city feel more alive with people doing all sorts of thing with their own stories.
In both cases those additions are part of the core experience people want.
But in God of War its much more questionable, I've never seen anyone who came to god of war for the puzzles or for the loot collection.
Those mechanics exist more for the end goal of provding downtime or build variety but the implementation could be changed from loot to skill trees and puzzles to plataforming without really changing the experience as a whole.
The developers themselves pretty much showed this is the case with them being so willing to have characters just tell you the puzzle solutions if you take too long, something that they would only do if the puzzles didn't really matter themselves.
i think its because some devs (mainly indie, i think that its just bad game design for the case of AAA games) feel the need to stand out in some way, which is totally fine, but they end up overdoing it and it just ends up being really bad overall
COTL had this same problem early on with itw repetitive rougelike and fairly bland city builder, and they just focused and evolved the city building part and it did much better for itself
I'm watching this clip 6 months later and having a good laugh
I wish they made a Elden Ring auto-battler.
But you die every time.
I can't believe they nerfed the 3* Loathsome Dung Eater
@@chadeava It's called Tokyo Jungle
Im on a playthrough of Ragnarok right now and I think the game is more fun than he is willing to give credit for during the bit, but im not even that far into the game and I'm already sick of how many times you come across the "Press O to cling to this wall, crawl under this small tunnel, shimmy across this chasm, etc. etc." It seems like its in this game 10x more than the first. I saw you flip a whole ass temple before Kratos I know you can literally just hulk-jump that shit. And yes I know that's how they hide loading screens.
i just don't see how it's "more fun". walking, tapping X, cutscene, walking, tapping X, cutscene
Is the combat the same, shit was garbage.
just gimme back the loading screen ffs
It's fun for boring people.
I'm so glad I didn't buy that shit. It litterally is cut scene, walking simulator, hog riding simulator, canoe simulator, and quick time events that YOU CANNOT FAIL! How do you make QTE that have no sense of urgency or threats. Game is damn near 60% of what I mentioned above. Shit is ridiculous😂
I love how in this rant, there were so many enjoyable tangents, but they all came back to God of War. Egg at his comedy best!
First person to mod Mimir's dialogue on the pc version to just be NL gaming rants can feel free to come back and pay me for the idea, we have Homer Kratos, SURELY this can be done.
Oh shit I am in fact watching this 6 months from then
sounds like NL likes Doom, oh a door? oh a lever? CRUSH the DOOR, BREAK THE LEVER
"I'm not drunk, i just have to like... go pee a little bit."
bro that egg is pickled.
watching this vod one year later
I second this
6 month believers we won
Waiting for 2027
Like comment if U still here in 2027
As someone who has actually *played* the new god of war, I really believe that the busywork that NL is alking about was barely present in the game. The side quests were really well written stories for the most part, or otherwise incredibly easy to avoid, and the main story puzzles weren't particularly egregious or time consuming in any way. Maybe I'm wrong, but this feels like NL reinforcing his own bias with an extremely limited sample size to go off of.
I never felt like I had to go out of my way to upgrade anything/optimize my skills. There wasn't any currency grinding that I can think of, and XP for leveling skills felt more than plentiful.
Oh wow, somebody in this insufferable comment section that actually played the game!
I have to agree, although I only played the new GoW and I'm still at the beginning of Ragnarok due to business with work.
Really liked the game although I'm more of a FromSoft or competitive gaming Stan
How does this man consistently find a way to say something I agree with in a way I disagree with :D?
This is absolutely my favorite piece of northernlion content to have ever been made.
Vod is recommended to me a year later- NL undefeated on his predictions again
Ive listeened to this like 7 times and every time he says "Plant a garden cicero" i fucking die lmao
I'm disappointed that this is a year old instead of 6 months
To be fair it's a year after this came out, and I have no idea who this guy is, but the rant is funny.
NL doing a mimir impression made me LMAO
@Christopher if you have your know how annoying he is
Here I am, watching the vod a year from now, and he was right
1 year later here I am trying to go to sleep watching this knowing that when I fall to sleep I will have to go back in the playlist to find where I left off.
I'm six months in the future and I'm watching this vod
I am, indeed, watching this 6 months later
I’m watching this 6 months later lmao
I’m watching over a year later…
15:15 brother I'm watching this VOD 9 months from then
NL truly desires smooth brain interface and big brain mechanics
Simple UI with surprisingly deep mechanics is peak game design.
"Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away"
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Literally watching this VOD 6 months from now
Btw, I can totally understand what you mean when you say indie games don't get appreciated enough. Games with simple mechanics, but done well because they know what their focus is. I personally would pick Elden Ring because I can spend a bajillion hours in that and not get bored, but there's an argument to be made for something like Inscryption or Cult of the Lamb. If Inscryption were nominated, then top of my list for sure. Cult of the lamb was fun as well and I got sucked into that for a while, but I can't say it's the best game of the year. It was just a fun way to spend my time for a while when I had nothing else to do. Also Super Auto Pets is extremely fun and I have no clue why.
I think one of the reason people like Elden ring and Froms recent games in general is that they stick to the “do one thing and do it well” formula.
I understand big metal doors from magical god civilizations can hold out magical gods. But Kratos should not respect a wood barred fence. Kind of like how he doesn't bother opening wooden chests properly.
Also sometimes when you know that you yourself could get past that puzzle by climbing around it. Then we have some immersion breaking going on.
6 month squad
i am watching this vod 6 months from then
Like if youre watching in 2027
watching this 6mo from when it came out and being referenced now its great
The Mimir voice is spot-on.
11 months and im watching the vod
Someone made a video of God of War: Ragnarok where it has only the cutscenes and important in-game dialogue. And it's one of the best stories I have ever watched.
Thanks for having the current game being played in the info! 👍I've been watching some clips but had never heard of it. Looks fun.
watching this vod almost 2 years later and he was spitting on that prediction im a gow ragnarok glazer and this is hilarious
How has NL not realized yet that every award show is just an appreciation of the industry for the industry and not for the consumer. Its about creative, economical and technical accomplishments more than "is this game genuinely fun".
I hate those random as fuck apples and ingredients! not every game needs crafting
Don't really watch Northernlion but I get what he means when a lot of AAA games feel like a Ubisoft game. Once you've played them once you've played them all (third person action game with light rpg elements that's open world) and they never really feel that exciting to play because they're always dumbed down.
I do indeed watch this vod 6 months from then
can confirm i am watching this later than 6 months ago from when this was recorded
As someone who played ragnarok through and enjoyed it, the man is dead on with his criticisms. Honestly could drop all the “puzzles” in the game and significantly improve the experience.
It’s funny cause a lot of the stuff he’s saying applies to Elden Ring as well, lol. His Mimir impression and the silliness of the puzzles is spot on though.
True lol. Both are fantastic regardless despite some flaws imo
Like what? Genuine question
@@akshaydalvi1534 Like, everything about 3rd person action adventure games, lol. To be fair, Elden Ring very much breaks from tradition in the genre, which is probably why he likes it so much.
Difference is you aren’t forced to sit through crafting, or any of its shortcomings in elden ring. It’s a game about fighting hard bosses and clearing dungeons. It feeds you that on a silver platter. The anything that might be seen as not fun are always optional to the core mechanics of the game
@@Ragnell123 yeah i get it, its just that difference in player freedom between GOW and ER is like night and day lol. They feel like completely different genres even if they are both 3rdP action games
“I would love it if the game was just like here, you kill something you get rocks, and you can use rocks to buy everything”
But… that’s what GoW does.
There aren't enough things to kill
No... it doesn't?
@@bringmethanos420 There's like two relevant currencies in the game and the rest can be summarized as "upgrade rocks that go up in value as you progress". It's really not difficult at all.
And the game even makes knowing about all that irrelevant because it'll just say if a thing can be upgraded or not next to it anyway. Couldn't be any more streamlined.
20+ minutes, this gon' be good
Bold of NL to bring up “good movies” and “Yorgos Lanthimos” in the same sentence.
The Game Awards is like if a marvel super fan ran the Oscars
watching this vod one year from then.
How did I wake up in a reality where anyone takes Geoff Keighley's "Game Awards" seriously? I thought we all new that it was just a chance for Geoff to buddy up to developers and rake in some ad money. The awards are literally meaningless.
Its the video game equivalent of Michelin Stars in all honesty.
15:23 "Noone's watching this vod 6 months from now." Uh oh.
The hype around vampire survivors just confuses me. The game is cool for the first few runs, then you realize how little substance there is to the game. I get that not all games have to be incredibly deep or ambitious, but VS just gets boring after you realize there's barely any player input and you're basically just looking at the funny colors.
Well, this is coming from a man with 600+ recorded episodes of SAP
The people who play it are there for that. They armt seeing anything different that you.
@@williammitchell6254 but why am I seeing unironic anger for it not being a goty nominee. Its literally the most mindless game I've seen
@@SaumitraBose they don't care that its mindless, the appreciate the gameplay loop.
What's not to get? It's chewing gum in video game form, it gives you dopamine and it's cheap. So: hype. It doesnt necessarily have that much staying power but I played a lot. But if you only played a few runs, theres more substance to it than you think.
BURY ME BURY ME
why 30 seconds to mars
Watching in 2024 because i just became a father and now have a new taste in my streamers
Worth mentioning that I watched this 1 year after posting. Take that chatter!
I agree AAA is way oversaturated with open world third person action games, also indie is way oversaturated with roguelites
That was hilarious, egg was goin' off. As a GoW fan too, he's completely right.
"I can't get through this door"
thanks for letting me know TGA voting is open so I can go vote for HFW in every category it's nominated in. love that game
15:30 yes I am watching this right now
i adored ragnorok through and through but fuck that rant was hilarioussss cant even lie
@@AtomicSlugg I gotta say, if that’s not a bit.. you totally dug your own grave on that one 🤣
I love the game too, and can admit he made some good points,🤣😂
@@tygarner9142 yea the pointless puzzles and immersion breaking traversal are factsss
@@AtomicSlugg its fair to say you aren't a fan, but to says games shouldn't strive for that experience is quite pretentious. imo once perfected, video games will be a better medium for a narrative than movies. Movies have been falling off for a while, tv shows/streaming have been in the spotlight critically for at least the last 15 years, and thats been slowing down as of late too. i think the perfect game lies in the best of both worlds. if you find distaste in a well executed game solely for the fact that is has a compelling story, that wouldn't make sense. But i'll admid, that doesn't reallllly exist yet.
@@AtomicSlugg Mate what are you talking about
I am indeed watching this nearly 2 years later
Honestly his point that no one could really critique a currency/upgrade system for being too elegant & the general idea that if the same result can be done with fewer steps in terms of elements that aren’t the essential gameplay then why not isn’t bad. It is very immersive for a fantasy world to have multiple materials indeed but when we’re talking about the difference between a game like Minecraft & GoW maybe one can deal with a bit less of that granularity
I for one never got the upgrade materials rant when it comes to linear games like god of War because you don't have to stress about farming an enemy that drops the mats you're looking for or something like that. You just play the game and while going through it you will find the enemies that drop the mats you need and at some point you will go to the shop and be like "oh look I can upgrade my shit now". The game is literally made in a way where the materials you need *will* drop when the people that made it deemed it appropriate for them to drop. I can very much understand the same complaint for MMORPGs where you're missing one thing and have no clue what you have to farm to get it though
but if the game is so linear that you just gradually upgrade everything over time instead of farming, why even have the mechanic? Why not just automatically upgrade it or have only one currency instead of a variety if the variety doesn't even matter?
I'm watching this 12 months from then and I'm laughin. Or at least chucklin
It’s a rant and it’s to be taken for fun, but honestly, GoW wouldn’t be a good game to watch NL play and he knows that. Not because of the ‘busy work’ (which is in all honestly pretty simple and fluid little puzzles that give just as nice a dopamine sugar rush as winning a round of SAP), but because he doesn’t stream stuff with lots of cutscenes and exposition.
He relies on games that are a platform for his improvised Seinfeldian-esque stand up routine. You can’t talk over Kratos having a touching moment with his son effectively, and it’s hard to make fun of because it’s so well written. Emoji casino though, easy to chat over.
The irony is that the puzzles in GoW would be his best parts, because he could actually quip over it (also ironic that both the egg and the belt-clipped head’s characters are defined by quipping)
And yes, I know he streamed the horror game with the wendigos, but it was so meme-able and cheesily bad, that it made reasonable content (though I think it didn’t suit NL overall and didn’t watch most of it thusly)
He actually did stream God of War, if you're interested to see how it turned out.
If you think the Supermassive games don't fit his style, I'm sorry to say, you're dead wrong brother. I have a hard time thinking of a better fit. The House of Ashes playthrough is some of his funniest stuff in years.
Slight disagree on the reason being the game's heavy cutscenes, as my all time favourite NL playthroughs to follow have been the narrative ones (Deadly premonition, literally any David Cage game, even Life is Strange), but it's all about his commentary kinda skewering the game's writing, sometimes more lovingly than others.
Though from what I know about the modern GoW games, it doesn't sound like the story/writing is absurd enough for this and it would more be like his Witcher 3 playthrough which yeah, didn't really work, and chat would probably be mad if he made fun of the writing anyway.
I love how he's talking shit on what won VFX in 2017 and that it wasn't STS. That was the year that Hollow Knight came out, and it wasn't even nominated. That's how stacked that year was. Cuphead won, and it beat out Persona 5. Slay the Spire could've been animated in microsoft powerpoint.
Something being animated simply doesn’t mean it’s bad. You can have the most complex graphics as possible, but if the game don’t look good, it don’t matter
Anyone who was genuinely antagonized by points he made and chose to interpret his chastisement of the industry as a personal attack fully missed the point. Its honestly so discouraging to see people so unwilling to step back and consider. NL is arguing the most possible pro-consumer stance and is being thumb-downed by the portion of the audience who could call themselves nothing more than a base consumer.
What game is he playing here?
tiny rogues
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau thanks 😊
watching this 6 months from when it aired
15:22 CAUGHT
Oh my god im actually watching this 6 months later
This rant reminds me of God of War Ragnarok
15:23 cut to me watching this one year later..
What game is that at the start of video?
tiny rogues
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau thx
Me watching this 6months later