i'd say resi monsters are more kronenberg than they are lovecraftian they aren't creatures of the unknown, far beyond human understanding. they're jsut gross monster things
TGBS is the most underrated UA-cam channel. The topics you cover are right up my alley. Devil May Cry, Metroid, Resident Evil, No more freaking heroes and more. Keep up all the great work man.
As much as I loved the remake's visuals and gameplay, the lack of claire and Leon meetings really killed the story for me. They had so much opportunity to join up the overlap in a way that improved the characters relationship. Instead, they see each other at the start, and the end... and we expect to beleive that they are friends now? Like why did they remove the overlap that existed in the original game? Made me sad...
I felt the same way when I played it. By the end of the original (as a 10 year old) I felt a relationship between them, be it running into each other in the office (or hall) then calling each other on the radio..by the end I felt like they were TRYING to escape together. At the end of the second one it was like..wait where’s Claire? We just sayin fuck her..? The dynamic between them was completely absent in the remake. The remakes of 2 and 3, for me, were actually quite disappointing. And I was so excited for RE2r.
Tbh I felt even in the original RE2, it was so Scooby-Doo-like that every time they're running into each other then they're like 'Ok let's split up again'. "Hey Claire, young girl with no training, it's my first day on the job but I'm taking it really seriously so I want to make sure I protect everybody. Okay so let's split up." "Hey Leon so I've got a kid with me now." "Okay let's split up again." "Hey Leon there are giant toxic plants and a mutant maniac running around now. Oh you wanna split up again?" Then later he insists on tough girl Ada staying with him because it's not safe alone lol. Like dude you just left a college student and a little kid to run around the outbreak on their own hahahaha
Very well researched video, the extensive analysis of the level design and especially the comparisons between the two routes display a lot of effort. Some of your finest work IMO, thank you!
Hell yeah, Claire A, Leon B! When I got my first PlayStation, it came with a used copy of Resi 2 that only had the Claire disc. Years later, when I found out there was a disc that made Leon playable, I flipped my shit in excitement.
SJ Webster, when I first played RE2 I also got it used, but the difference with my situation was the Leon disc was damaged, so every time I'd try to go through the door to get to the hallway that leads to the S.T.A.R.S. office right near the statue puzzle the screen would just stay black after the door animation. The music would still play but other than that the game was completely unresponsive after that. I wasn't able to play leon's campaign until years later when I got the GameCube version, which is probably my favorite version of the game, but that's besides the point. Lol
I can see where you're coming from, even agree with most of what you say. Resident Evil 2 gave me an incredible first impression. It was genuinely scary here and there especially when Mr. X showed up unexpectedly in the B scenario, and the storytelling was a strong improvement over the first game, which made playing the game feel more meaningful and engaging as I wanted to see these likeable characters survive through to the end. Admittedly though after four playthroughs, the game wears out its welcome. Aside from the A/B scenarios, the game doesn't do a whole lot different from the original game and the second half is surprisingly underwhelming. I didn't notice this on my first playthrough, but the game really starts to feel brief and rather anticlimactic once you get to the laboratory. There were also a few cheap angles so that a zombie could leach on to you with little issues which was a little annoying but nothing bad. Can I see why some may prefer the original? I guess so considering its less linear structure and stronger focus on survival gameplay, but I still hold 2 as the stronger entry. It doesn't feel as slow and clunky, I enjoy the story a lot more, and the difficulty is a lot more fair albeit a bit on the easy side. RE3: Nemesis is the best of the original trilogy though.
Your explanation about the keys is the perfect explanation as to why I find watching speedruns of RE1 more entertaining than 2. There's just so many different ways to tackle the mansion. You start off with a bunch of options. Whereas 2, you're stuck on the streets until you get to the station, then stuck on that particular route right at the beginning.
FINALLY, someone who isn't blinded by nostalgia and can critique RE2 for once, its TOO much like the original RE1 and spencer mansion is 10,000 times better than RPD and overall RE2 is just too easy in terms of challenge, RE2 really could use an extra difficulty mode. Now i'm crossing my fingers for RE3 please do that poor game some justice.. THAT GAME IS AWESOME. And holy shit, you just pin-pointed the fact that the linear level design with action is something that started off as early as RE2! RE4 merely committed fully to that i guess.
I agree with you on this. RE2 is a masterpiece, but it's overhyped and overrated in certain terms. It is, in the end, simplified version of the original game with more focus on action, overall polish and character performances. And what else they could do in less than a year, when they needed to build it up from ground up after scrapping the original version ? Of course they had to use the similar form what the original used in order to save time to get it out to the market.
Dirty Deed Indeed The main problem i have with RPD Mansion is that it feels so not threatening. like they just forgot to make it creepy. Re 1.5's James Cameron blue light atmosphere was fine idk why they didn't go with it. Specner mansion was a ghoulish mansion straight out of a saw movie, its simply too unique to be replicated without being Inferior.
Again I agree with you haha. 1.5 may have looked a bit dull in places, but it was unfinished and lacked the detail and final polish of the final product. When you look some of the grey hallways and that stairwell, surely they won't put the game out like that, it would be dull to play. I always though that the outdoor area on the factory area looked insanely sinister, especially that place, where was something like 10x zombies lying on the ground. With some tweaks here and there, they could have created another unique and great map/scenery for the game and have something truly fresh to offer. The RE2 that we eventually got was great game nevertheless, but like you said, it doesn't feel threatening or creepy. While the mansion was ghoulish ghosthouse-style place with mad scientist puzzles, RE2 could have been on the industrian nightmare-style with blue and grey hue tones and overall darker atmosphere and focus on the sort of ''siege'' and zombie mass control to give that desperation.
Excellent work here. In the first episode, I thought that you spent far too much time explaining all possible paths for the sake of completeness rather than as support for an argument. Here, you strike a perfect balance: you explain enough of the game to allow people who never played RE2 to follow along, but you don't bog the script down enough to where it detracts from the other areas. Awesome video!
This line: "Even if a key only opens two doors, that's still two places that you have to choose between going to" suddenly reminded me of The Stanley Parable.
RE2 is such a classic that I never really thought about its shortcomings much, especially in regards to its linearity. I give you kudos for making me think about that. I will say though that I did always dislike the sewer/lab parts of the game and wished that the police station had just been bigger.
RE2 is the golden reason why I hate DLC. I mean niggling story inconsistencies aside, here’s a triple aaa game which offered you four unique play throughs whose only cost was to beat the game. I am dreading the RE2 remake because you know, you just KNOW they’re gonna split it up into DLC. But then the best part is we all get to be called entitled whiners when we bring it up. But I digress, awesome vid for an awesome series! P.S. very surprised you haven’t done a quick video about the supposed DMC5 leaks.
Multi Tails Power True indeed! I even used the word ‘supposed’ to convey that. However as this is the man who squeezes a DMC reference in every vid, it would be nice to see a speculation vid from him. If only for fun!
RE2 was not a AAA game. AAA is a mutation of the 7th Gen. You can see inklings of it sprouting up in the 6th Gen, but was cetainly not a thing in the 5th Gen.
This game felt massive in 98. 2 discs, A and B scenarios, new enemies and weapons on subsequent play throughs. Worth the 99 bucks the game was priced at. Amazing sequel and game. I think it may have been impossible to recapture the original games tense atmosphere, unraveling plot, and claustrophobic atmosphere of the mansion. Ammo was sparse making it a true survival game unlike Re2s over the top action elements that were fun, but subtracted from the survival in “survival horror”.
It's always refreshing seeing other people and their takes on one of my favorite games. After breaking the game down to the mechanics and optimizations, even going down to taking frame-data on the very first section of the game to try to manipulate the only part of the game that's truly randomized (In the Japanese version; chance for extra spawns in first room that slows down your movement slightly. Both versions; the gate after Kendo shop can break in one hit or several); it's easy to forgive and forget the minor niggles that can come up with the casual player. Example: You didn't like the linearity of the game, but it makes it a very convenient speed game, seeing how to free up an item slot, all you need to do is activate an extra door that is *always* on the way to where you are supposed to go. Also the abundance of ammo and healing items is just great for always having backup safe strats.
Dunno if anyone's cleared this up earlier in the comment section or not, but in regards to the Claire A part of the truck blocking the door to the jail cells, she gets the Heart Key but has no way to move the truck nor does she have any business trying to get past it as she meets Sherry on the other side where some construction is going on - because the A scenarios happened before B scenario, similar gameplay be damned.
This 2017 video was about a 1998 game that I managed to beat in 2021. Finished Leon A / Claire B (on Easy) and was quite impressed at all the little differences. Now I'm working on my Claire A / Leon B (on Normal). While the changes are small, I'm really impressed at how they're shuffling cutscene placement, items locations and overall game progession.
I actually love how non-linear this game becomes in its second half. It ESCALATES. I always say that RE2 is the most well-paced game I’ve ever played. It starts with an explosive action sequence, then gives you several hours of slower RE1 exploration and puzzle solving. After that, it becomes progressively more and more focused on action as the story escalates to its climax. RE2 is easily my favorite RE and that pacing is a large reason why. While you criticize 2’s linearity, I equally frown upon RE1/REMake’s obsession with finding 4 keys in order to find 3 keys in order to find 4 more keys in order to find 2 keys. It’s just overboard IMO and doesn’t lend itself to a smooth experience if you haven’t played it before. RE2, however, is smooth as butter
*"I equally frown upon RE1/REMake’s obsession with finding 4 keys in order to find 3 keys in order to find 4 more keys in order to find 2 keys"* Yeah, that's how an adventure game is supposed to be like... Straight up action linear route is not at all good enough especially in the pre RE4 combat which is clunky and not really something that can carry the game alone. RE2 doesn't feel like its confident to be its own thing, on one had it wants to be Spencer mansion 2.0 but at the same time it also wants to be like RE4. *"RE2, however, is smooth as butter"* Take those nostalgia goggles bro, getting those keys in the mansion is still a pain, especially when it makes you go ALL the way from the one end of the mansion to the other! I HAAAATED that in RE1 and RE2 repeating that is like pouring salt in my wound.. Thank GOD for REMAKE, it never makes you backtrack horribly like that.
*"Yeah, that's how an adventure game is supposed to be like..."* I wouldn't be an RE fan if I didn't understand that, I'm just saying it was too much for me in the REmake. For the record, I loathed RE4 the first time I played it and I still loathe it now. It's not a horror game. RE2 has more action, sure, but it's still thoroughly a horror game. *"Take those nostalgia goggles off"* I replayed the entire series two years ago and it was still my favorite. I revisit the REmake more often but that's largely because of the presentation and because I can play it on my modern console. That's why we all want the RE2 remake!
Wait.. you're talking about the REmake!? I thought you were complaining about the original RE1 not REmake! REmake is a 10/10 game, it's the best RE Horror game! no contest Collecting keys and backtracking in the original RE1&2 could get rather elongated and plodding but in REmake i don't have to run 100 kliometers back to open a door from the key i just found lol I have given up replaying Re2 for further unlockables because of this, on the other hand i can play RE3&Remake over and over until the end of time due to their refined&compact level design. Yes we need RE2 Remake but not for presentation alone... REmake is almost nothing like the original RE1's level design.
I've beaten RE2 at least 20 times and gotten the best rank on both LeonA and ClaireB. I have never played LeonB / ClaireA because until just now, I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know you could start a new game on disc 2. I am now extremely excited to play it this way.
This is shaping up to be an interesting series. The insights on the relative linearity of RE2 and the trend of going from one big open area to several setpieces in a linear fashion is something I'd noticed while playing too, and it'll certainly come back again in RE3 again. I do wonder what the video on RE3 will be like, since the choice system and Nemesis' appearances throw an interesting wrench in the works. And then there's Code Veronica which seems even more open than RE1 to me and is quite willing to drown the people in key items to juggle around with less item boxes than RE2 or 3 provided. I look forward to those videos and how you'll tackle the series from RE4 onward!
This was interesting, looking forward to the next part. I love the diagrams, it's really fun to see the flow of the game in that kind of form. I have a theory (backed up by a single, tenuous shred of evidence) that Capcom originally planned a different copy of the card suit keys for each character at the very least. I'd like to see that fixed in the remake, if it ever appears. Ultimately though, my main complaint with RE2 is that it squanders a lot of opportunities to do really interesting things, wasting a lot of potential. 1) Puzzle gameplay took a giant dive in quality and quantity from the first game. There are far fewer logic/number puzzles in the game (particularly in the final stretch, as you mention) and a lot of the fetch quest activity in the game borders on pointless, especially since the enemies are far less threatening overall than they were in RE1. 2) Nothing is really ever done with the mechanic of the two characters having their own events and choices impacting on each other. It's played about with when you close the shutters with the cable, and with the other two choices you mention, but nothing else really comes of it. This could have been really interesting but looks like a casualty of the development hell it went through, so In the end it's only really impactful in story terms, since it goes towards explaining how certain things happen throughout the course of the game. Consider the main fuse part in the lab as an example of all of this - the item you need first (fuse case) is in the same room as the first mechanism you need to take it to, then the final objective is two rooms away from that, with no danger along the way. What exactly was the point of that exercise? There's an argument that it's a pacing tool (it comes after a boss in scenario A so could serve as a breather) but you have a cutscene to buffer already, and a safe zone with lots of ammo that both serve that purpose handily. Scenario B is supposed to be more difficult and not give you that time and space to breathe - but it just recycles exactly the same activity as well. Maddening.
Dude, please PLEASE do analyze. RE Code Veronica. That game almost always gets passed on, but I think it stands head and shoulders with mainline games in terms of design.
11 minutes in: This flexibility of stories, this effort put into having two solid, coherent, alternate campaigns depending on if you play Leon A/Claire B or Claire A/Leon B is why I will always defend RE2 classic as vastly superior to its overhyped 2019 "reimagining", which couldn't be arsed to even attempt this level of complexity despite taking so many years to develop.
Just finished my first run of Leon A(?) in the remake, and dropped in to see a breakdown of the original. Man- it's pretty crazy seeing the differences!
FINALLY! I was seriously wondering if you were ever going to continue this series.. I found it very interesting and have been waiting months. THANK YOU!
Loved this game back in the 90s I played at least 2 campaigns everyday when I dropped out of high school and had nothing to do Ended up learning every room in the game I remember guiding a schoolmate from start to finish over the phone while playing other game Also I made vhs tapes with all the cutscenes of the first 3 games and watched them over and over again It was the same with RE3 Now I feel really old
Very informative series. I never knew Kamiya was involved with RE2. I really need to look into his early work. Gotta say, I've never been a fan of the tank controls (apart from outbreak but that's a bit different in concept in some neat ways imo) in the old games but I'm really considering it after watching these first 2 videos. Funny enough I love the tank controls in Onimusha Warlords and 2. Never understood why I don't here.
I wasn't a big fan of the scenario A/B thing. Made things needlessly confusing and also meant that the separate campaigns lasted for around five hours only. The game wasn't very challenging either. Watching this video also made me realize that the game itself wasn't as strategic as the first one. I've always liked RE3 better than RE2.
@@steelbear2063 Well, interestingly enough, since that comment I've played the remake of the second game and I really enjoyed it. But I didn't touch the third one after hearing about the cut content and short length. My opinion on the originals still stands though
Played the original trilogy for the first time last week. Got to be honest, after finding out that Raccoon city was being invaded by Zombies, I was really disappointed finding out that I was going to be stuck inside a Police Station for most of the game.
I think the reason why I still adore this game so much is because I played it immediately after REmake and despite the major drop in graphics it still felt like a blood relative. Less beautiful but just as elegant. I’m glad I didn’t skip this and RE3 and jump straight into RE4 because there’s just so much gold in Raccoon City.
Very big into RE lately, so I'm glad to see this! How far into the series will you go? Will you only cover the numbered entries? Edit: rewatching episode 1, he says "every main entry," so it's gonna be the numbered ones (unless he wants to include Code Veronica)
I'd love to see his Code Veronica analysis, because as far as I'm concerned, it's the hardest Resident Evil game in existence with some of the most frustrating boss fights.
I keep forgetting that Resi 2 had basically four campaigns. I imagine that's why it took this long to get this particular vid out, eh? Either way, excellent analysis. It makes me wonder if the RE2 remake (if it ever happens) will expand on these alternate scenarios and maybe create even more unique situations.
This is actually the thing that I didn't like about Resident Evil 2. It was just another mansion again. First game did it better, so repeating the same thing again wasn't as good. That's why Resident Evil 3: Nemesis was superior game for me. You got actually to explore Raccoon City! And Nemesis was a new thing: He would follow you through rooms. He was like Mr. X 2.0, but perfected. RE2 is a great game, but it didn't strike me as well as 1st and 3rd game did! :)
as much as i love love RE2, im on the same page with you RE3 was my Fav over RE2 but still i love all the classic RE games with tank control and fixe camera...
watching you because Turbo Button told me to. good job Burbo
Dog bless you Jakey
ok but what do you think about resident evil 2
44 seconds until the obligatory DMC reference. That's a record, Charlie.
i'd say resi monsters are more kronenberg than they are lovecraftian
they aren't creatures of the unknown, far beyond human understanding. they're jsut gross monster things
Yeah, they're body horror not cosmic
There’s a bit of Carpenter’s The Thing in there too.
@@hyperdeath84 "a bit"? The final form of G is straight up The Thing
nochtczar The big blob mouth with tentacles from the train? When does the Thing take on that form?
Yup, from 2 and up it is more body horror with creatures like the licker and Birkin
TGBS is the most underrated UA-cam channel. The topics you cover are right up my alley. Devil May Cry, Metroid, Resident Evil, No more freaking heroes and more. Keep up all the great work man.
YESSSSSSSS YA BOI IS BACK!
One like and no comments? What?
As much as I loved the remake's visuals and gameplay, the lack of claire and Leon meetings really killed the story for me. They had so much opportunity to join up the overlap in a way that improved the characters relationship. Instead, they see each other at the start, and the end... and we expect to beleive that they are friends now? Like why did they remove the overlap that existed in the original game? Made me sad...
I felt the same way when I played it. By the end of the original (as a 10 year old) I felt a relationship between them, be it running into each other in the office (or hall) then calling each other on the radio..by the end I felt like they were TRYING to escape together. At the end of the second one it was like..wait where’s Claire? We just sayin fuck her..? The dynamic between them was completely absent in the remake. The remakes of 2 and 3, for me, were actually quite disappointing. And I was so excited for RE2r.
Tbh I felt even in the original RE2, it was so Scooby-Doo-like that every time they're running into each other then they're like 'Ok let's split up again'.
"Hey Claire, young girl with no training, it's my first day on the job but I'm taking it really seriously so I want to make sure I protect everybody. Okay so let's split up."
"Hey Leon so I've got a kid with me now." "Okay let's split up again."
"Hey Leon there are giant toxic plants and a mutant maniac running around now. Oh you wanna split up again?"
Then later he insists on tough girl Ada staying with him because it's not safe alone lol. Like dude you just left a college student and a little kid to run around the outbreak on their own hahahaha
@@ufoash440 well Claire stated that she can take care after herself in the opening cutscene(when she gets the gun).
Very well researched video, the extensive analysis of the level design and especially the comparisons between the two routes display a lot of effort. Some of your finest work IMO, thank you!
That's what I like about TGB
He's super analytical so it doesn't come off as personal bias. He's using facts and research.
JC4R except when he's talking about re6.
try as I might, I could not breathe underwater
Of course you knew that you had to resurface to breathe
You know by holding all that oxygen your not helping the economy
@@euphoriia2090 onxygen is converted in the lungs... hes technically helping the atmosphere by not breathing lol. now to stop cows from farting ;)
Buy an oxylizer!
Hell yeah, Claire A, Leon B! When I got my first PlayStation, it came with a used copy of Resi 2 that only had the Claire disc. Years later, when I found out there was a disc that made Leon playable, I flipped my shit in excitement.
SJ Webster, when I first played RE2 I also got it used, but the difference with my situation was the Leon disc was damaged, so every time I'd try to go through the door to get to the hallway that leads to the S.T.A.R.S. office right near the statue puzzle the screen would just stay black after the door animation. The music would still play but other than that the game was completely unresponsive after that. I wasn't able to play leon's campaign until years later when I got the GameCube version, which is probably my favorite version of the game, but that's besides the point. Lol
I can see where you're coming from, even agree with most of what you say. Resident Evil 2 gave me an incredible first impression. It was genuinely scary here and there especially when Mr. X showed up unexpectedly in the B scenario, and the storytelling was a strong improvement over the first game, which made playing the game feel more meaningful and engaging as I wanted to see these likeable characters survive through to the end.
Admittedly though after four playthroughs, the game wears out its welcome. Aside from the A/B scenarios, the game doesn't do a whole lot different from the original game and the second half is surprisingly underwhelming. I didn't notice this on my first playthrough, but the game really starts to feel brief and rather anticlimactic once you get to the laboratory. There were also a few cheap angles so that a zombie could leach on to you with little issues which was a little annoying but nothing bad.
Can I see why some may prefer the original? I guess so considering its less linear structure and stronger focus on survival gameplay, but I still hold 2 as the stronger entry. It doesn't feel as slow and clunky, I enjoy the story a lot more, and the difficulty is a lot more fair albeit a bit on the easy side. RE3: Nemesis is the best of the original trilogy though.
Your explanation about the keys is the perfect explanation as to why I find watching speedruns of RE1 more entertaining than 2. There's just so many different ways to tackle the mansion. You start off with a bunch of options. Whereas 2, you're stuck on the streets until you get to the station, then stuck on that particular route right at the beginning.
FINALLY, someone who isn't blinded by nostalgia and can critique RE2 for once, its TOO much like the original RE1 and spencer mansion is 10,000 times better than RPD and overall RE2 is just too easy in terms of challenge, RE2 really could use an extra difficulty mode.
Now i'm crossing my fingers for RE3 please do that poor game some justice.. THAT GAME IS AWESOME. And holy shit, you just pin-pointed the fact that the linear level design with action is something that started off as early as RE2! RE4 merely committed fully to that i guess.
I agree with you on this. RE2 is a masterpiece, but it's overhyped and overrated in certain terms. It is, in the end, simplified version of the original game with more focus on action, overall polish and character performances. And what else they could do in less than a year, when they needed to build it up from ground up after scrapping the original version ? Of course they had to use the similar form what the original used in order to save time to get it out to the market.
Dirty Deed Indeed The main problem i have with RPD Mansion is that it feels so not threatening. like they just forgot to make it creepy. Re 1.5's James Cameron blue light atmosphere was fine idk why they didn't go with it.
Specner mansion was a ghoulish mansion straight out of a saw movie, its simply too unique to be replicated without being Inferior.
Again I agree with you haha. 1.5 may have looked a bit dull in places, but it was unfinished and lacked the detail and final polish of the final product. When you look some of the grey hallways and that stairwell, surely they won't put the game out like that, it would be dull to play. I always though that the outdoor area on the factory area looked insanely sinister, especially that place, where was something like 10x zombies lying on the ground. With some tweaks here and there, they could have created another unique and great map/scenery for the game and have something truly fresh to offer.
The RE2 that we eventually got was great game nevertheless, but like you said, it doesn't feel threatening or creepy. While the mansion was ghoulish ghosthouse-style place with mad scientist puzzles, RE2 could have been on the industrian nightmare-style with blue and grey hue tones and overall darker atmosphere and focus on the sort of ''siege'' and zombie mass control to give that desperation.
TGB: Man how do I make it look like I'm not ripping off Game Makers Toolkit's Zelda graphs?
...I KNOW!'
*Turns graphs 90 degrees*
TGB you sneaky brit!
I realised too late that a horizontal graph system makes much more sense for widescreen videos :P
TGB doesn't spend all day complaining about Trump on twitter so he's automatically better.
Stop. Not right now.
Oh, my word... I completely forgot that I wasn't even watching a Mark Brown video.
Excellent work here. In the first episode, I thought that you spent far too much time explaining all possible paths for the sake of completeness rather than as support for an argument. Here, you strike a perfect balance: you explain enough of the game to allow people who never played RE2 to follow along, but you don't bog the script down enough to where it detracts from the other areas. Awesome video!
This line: "Even if a key only opens two doors, that's still two places that you have to choose between going to" suddenly reminded me of The Stanley Parable.
"That's still slightly less ammo than you need to take them all out easy peasy"
Naaaahhh, you still get too much ammo.
RE2 is such a classic that I never really thought about its shortcomings much, especially in regards to its linearity. I give you kudos for making me think about that. I will say though that I did always dislike the sewer/lab parts of the game and wished that the police station had just been bigger.
Probably one of the best video series I've watched, Huge Resi fan and your dedication and the way you explain it, just all together amazing.
RE2's streamlined map design and super generous resources really hurt the experience for me. The remake was a huge improvement in that regard.
RE2 is the golden reason why I hate DLC. I mean niggling story inconsistencies aside, here’s a triple aaa game which offered you four unique play throughs whose only cost was to beat the game. I am dreading the RE2 remake because you know, you just KNOW they’re gonna split it up into DLC. But then the best part is we all get to be called entitled whiners when we bring it up.
But I digress, awesome vid for an awesome series!
P.S. very surprised you haven’t done a quick video about the supposed DMC5 leaks.
mortvia I agree with you
mortvia I mean they're just leaks, not quite conformation
Multi Tails Power True indeed! I even used the word ‘supposed’ to convey that. However as this is the man who squeezes a DMC reference in every vid, it would be nice to see a speculation vid from him. If only for fun!
I look at stuff like Assignment Ada and think "in modern day, this is DLC"
RE5 is proof of that.
RE2 was not a AAA game. AAA is a mutation of the 7th Gen. You can see inklings of it sprouting up in the 6th Gen, but was cetainly not a thing in the 5th Gen.
And i thought this series will have the same fate as man of passion's upload schedule
More like Chris Breadfield.
WHOA
WHOA THERE
Whoa! You were almost a Turbo Sandwich.
Insert Tidus laugh here.
Heh, More like Leon S "Sandwich" Kennedy, am I right guys! Hehe... no... ok.
a ballsy move
Can't wait for your analysis of Resident Evil 3, which I assume is coming at some point. You've done some great work.
When doing a video to do with re3 you might have to change the title to "Road to the magnum"
More like *"Road to the freeze Rounds"* or *"Road to the Rail Cannon"*
10 months late, but i believe RE0 and RE:CV don't give you a rocket launcher either. @@GodofWhoopass
This game felt massive in 98. 2 discs, A and B scenarios, new enemies and weapons on subsequent play throughs. Worth the 99 bucks the game was priced at. Amazing sequel and game. I think it may have been impossible to recapture the original games tense atmosphere, unraveling plot, and claustrophobic atmosphere of the mansion. Ammo was sparse making it a true survival game unlike Re2s over the top action elements that were fun, but subtracted from the survival in “survival horror”.
It's always refreshing seeing other people and their takes on one of my favorite games.
After breaking the game down to the mechanics and optimizations, even going down to taking frame-data on the very first section of the game to try to manipulate the only part of the game that's truly randomized (In the Japanese version; chance for extra spawns in first room that slows down your movement slightly. Both versions; the gate after Kendo shop can break in one hit or several); it's easy to forgive and forget the minor niggles that can come up with the casual player.
Example: You didn't like the linearity of the game, but it makes it a very convenient speed game, seeing how to free up an item slot, all you need to do is activate an extra door that is *always* on the way to where you are supposed to go. Also the abundance of ammo and healing items is just great for always having backup safe strats.
Dunno if anyone's cleared this up earlier in the comment section or not, but in regards to the Claire A part of the truck blocking the door to the jail cells, she gets the Heart Key but has no way to move the truck nor does she have any business trying to get past it as she meets Sherry on the other side where some construction is going on - because the A scenarios happened before B scenario, similar gameplay be damned.
This 2017 video was about a 1998 game that I managed to beat in 2021.
Finished Leon A / Claire B (on Easy) and was quite impressed at all the little differences. Now I'm working on my Claire A / Leon B (on Normal). While the changes are small, I'm really impressed at how they're shuffling cutscene placement, items locations and overall game progession.
Fun drinking game idea where you take a shot every time TGB makes a DMC reference.
I actually love how non-linear this game becomes in its second half. It ESCALATES. I always say that RE2 is the most well-paced game I’ve ever played. It starts with an explosive action sequence, then gives you several hours of slower RE1 exploration and puzzle solving. After that, it becomes progressively more and more focused on action as the story escalates to its climax. RE2 is easily my favorite RE and that pacing is a large reason why. While you criticize 2’s linearity, I equally frown upon RE1/REMake’s obsession with finding 4 keys in order to find 3 keys in order to find 4 more keys in order to find 2 keys. It’s just overboard IMO and doesn’t lend itself to a smooth experience if you haven’t played it before. RE2, however, is smooth as butter
*"I equally frown upon RE1/REMake’s obsession with finding 4 keys in order to find 3 keys in order to find 4 more keys in order to find 2 keys"*
Yeah, that's how an adventure game is supposed to be like... Straight up action linear route is not at all good enough especially in the pre RE4 combat which is clunky and not really something that can carry the game alone.
RE2 doesn't feel like its confident to be its own thing, on one had it wants to be Spencer mansion 2.0 but at the same time it also wants to be like RE4.
*"RE2, however, is smooth as butter"*
Take those nostalgia goggles bro, getting those keys in the mansion is still a pain, especially when it makes you go ALL the way from the one end of the mansion to the other! I HAAAATED that in RE1 and RE2 repeating that is like pouring salt in my wound.. Thank GOD for REMAKE, it never makes you backtrack horribly like that.
*"Yeah, that's how an adventure game is supposed to be like..."*
I wouldn't be an RE fan if I didn't understand that, I'm just saying it was too much for me in the REmake. For the record, I loathed RE4 the first time I played it and I still loathe it now. It's not a horror game. RE2 has more action, sure, but it's still thoroughly a horror game.
*"Take those nostalgia goggles off"*
I replayed the entire series two years ago and it was still my favorite. I revisit the REmake more often but that's largely because of the presentation and because I can play it on my modern console. That's why we all want the RE2 remake!
Wait.. you're talking about the REmake!? I thought you were complaining about the original RE1 not REmake! REmake is a 10/10 game, it's the best RE Horror game! no contest
Collecting keys and backtracking in the original RE1&2 could get rather elongated and plodding but in REmake i don't have to run 100 kliometers back to open a door from the key i just found lol
I have given up replaying Re2 for further unlockables because of this, on the other hand i can play RE3&Remake over and over until the end of time due to their refined&compact level design.
Yes we need RE2 Remake but not for presentation alone... REmake is almost nothing like the original RE1's level design.
I've beaten RE2 at least 20 times and gotten the best rank on both LeonA and ClaireB.
I have never played LeonB / ClaireA because until just now, I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know you could start a new game on disc 2. I am now extremely excited to play it this way.
You're by far my favorite gaming related content creator Brit. Keep doing what you're doing.
Claire A Leon B master race
Been waiting for your take on re3
This is shaping up to be an interesting series.
The insights on the relative linearity of RE2 and the trend of going from one big open area to several setpieces in a linear fashion is something I'd noticed while playing too, and it'll certainly come back again in RE3 again.
I do wonder what the video on RE3 will be like, since the choice system and Nemesis' appearances throw an interesting wrench in the works. And then there's Code Veronica which seems even more open than RE1 to me and is quite willing to drown the people in key items to juggle around with less item boxes than RE2 or 3 provided.
I look forward to those videos and how you'll tackle the series from RE4 onward!
This was interesting, looking forward to the next part. I love the diagrams, it's really fun to see the flow of the game in that kind of form. I have a theory (backed up by a single, tenuous shred of evidence) that Capcom originally planned a different copy of the card suit keys for each character at the very least. I'd like to see that fixed in the remake, if it ever appears.
Ultimately though, my main complaint with RE2 is that it squanders a lot of opportunities to do really interesting things, wasting a lot of potential.
1) Puzzle gameplay took a giant dive in quality and quantity from the first game. There are far fewer logic/number puzzles in the game (particularly in the final stretch, as you mention) and a lot of the fetch quest activity in the game borders on pointless, especially since the enemies are far less threatening overall than they were in RE1.
2) Nothing is really ever done with the mechanic of the two characters having their own events and choices impacting on each other. It's played about with when you close the shutters with the cable, and with the other two choices you mention, but nothing else really comes of it. This could have been really interesting but looks like a casualty of the development hell it went through, so In the end it's only really impactful in story terms, since it goes towards explaining how certain things happen throughout the course of the game.
Consider the main fuse part in the lab as an example of all of this - the item you need first (fuse case) is in the same room as the first mechanism you need to take it to, then the final objective is two rooms away from that, with no danger along the way. What exactly was the point of that exercise? There's an argument that it's a pacing tool (it comes after a boss in scenario A so could serve as a breather) but you have a cutscene to buffer already, and a safe zone with lots of ammo that both serve that purpose handily. Scenario B is supposed to be more difficult and not give you that time and space to breathe - but it just recycles exactly the same activity as well. Maddening.
This series is amazing! (even having just 2 by now)
please keep the good work!!!! Thank you!
It's been a while mein only friend
The soundtrack in this game is GOLD!
Dude, please PLEASE do analyze. RE Code Veronica. That game almost always gets passed on, but I think it stands head and shoulders with mainline games in terms of design.
11 minutes in: This flexibility of stories, this effort put into having two solid, coherent, alternate campaigns depending on if you play Leon A/Claire B or Claire A/Leon B is why I will always defend RE2 classic as vastly superior to its overhyped 2019 "reimagining", which couldn't be arsed to even attempt this level of complexity despite taking so many years to develop.
Just finished my first run of Leon A(?) in the remake, and dropped in to see a breakdown of the original. Man- it's pretty crazy seeing the differences!
First video from you that i watched and i have to subscribe for re3 video. Freakin nice analysis
FINALLY! I was seriously wondering if you were ever going to continue this series.. I found it very interesting and have been waiting months. THANK YOU!
Loved this game back in the 90s
I played at least 2 campaigns everyday when I dropped out of high school and had nothing to do
Ended up learning every room in the game
I remember guiding a schoolmate from start to finish over the phone while playing other game
Also I made vhs tapes with all the cutscenes of the first 3 games and watched them over and over again
It was the same with RE3
Now I feel really old
Don't forget the alligator battle that can be bypassed in the B scenario if you killed it with fuel canister rather than making it retreat in the A.
Very informative series. I never knew Kamiya was involved with RE2. I really need to look into his early work.
Gotta say, I've never been a fan of the tank controls (apart from outbreak but that's a bit different in concept in some neat ways imo) in the old games but I'm really considering it after watching these first 2 videos.
Funny enough I love the tank controls in Onimusha Warlords and 2. Never understood why I don't here.
interestingly, while claire a leon b is the canon route, the novelization by S.D. Perry actually follows Leon A Claire B. fun fact.
Whaddya know, you WERENT lying in discord about this.
would Code Veronica be included in this series? loving it so far
No he’ll never do that
Mr.Nickname I really hope this is sarcasm
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I wasn't a big fan of the scenario A/B thing. Made things needlessly confusing and also meant that the separate campaigns lasted for around five hours only. The game wasn't very challenging either. Watching this video also made me realize that the game itself wasn't as strategic as the first one. I've always liked RE3 better than RE2.
It took you 5 hours per campaign and you say they weren't challenging. Ok
@@steelbear2063 Well, interestingly enough, since that comment I've played the remake of the second game and I really enjoyed it. But I didn't touch the third one after hearing about the cut content and short length.
My opinion on the originals still stands though
It's been so long I forgot you were doing this series.
Played the original trilogy for the first time last week.
Got to be honest, after finding out that Raccoon city was being invaded by Zombies, I was really disappointed finding out that I was going to be stuck inside a Police Station for most of the game.
And then you get Dead Rising 10 years later, and it still takes place in a mall.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Aya ya and then dead rising 3 and 4 came out and everyone was like "I miss the mall :("
That's why RE3 is my favorite. Well, that and Nemesis.
If you were disappointed then play 3
Just pop 3 in
Sweet! I actually just watched the RE1 video a few days ago.
You forgot the Hank mission.
Samir Hussain HUNK
Ahh, the hidden "Hank" campaign. You run through the police station armed only with propane tanks.
Damien Lockwood I tell you HWAT
Damien Lockwood ah, so I wasn’t the only one who thought of hill
Great to see another vid cap! Appreciate the content as always!
Really good work man,
Hope Resident Evil 3 comes quicker then the first one
I feel as if I've come to closer to understanding what makes for valuable game design after watching this series so far.
I think the reason why I still adore this game so much is because I played it immediately after REmake and despite the major drop in graphics it still felt like a blood relative. Less beautiful but just as elegant. I’m glad I didn’t skip this and RE3 and jump straight into RE4 because there’s just so much gold in Raccoon City.
Yes! Finally! I'm very excited you're continuing this!
0:44 there we go
Great video man. Resident Evil is my favorite series. Your Road to rocket launcher series is amazing and the best re content I've seen
Really glad this series is a thing. Good video man
and then the remaked the game and instead of basically 4 scenarios, you really only get one.. but they still call it Scenario 1 and 2
How does this not have a million views? This is a really good video!
This series is such tasty candy to me. Thanks, UA-cam, for not burying this one too far in my reccs.
I didn’t even get this in my sub box i’ve been waiting for it for ages
I cant believe hunk and tofu and the battle mode never even got a mention.
These videos are amazing! GamingBrit deserves more attention! :)
Glad I found this channel
Great video as always TGBS :) can't wait to see the rest of the series :D
subscribed , turned notifications on , waiting for episode 3 of the series . keep up the great work 👍
Content like this is an Ideal I aspire to reach.
Excellent video!
Looking forward to the Resi lore vid. We need answers on that truck!
Hey man your my favorite youtuber KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING! hope you post more frequently
I screamed at the top of my lungs when i saw this notification
Can't believe 7 people didn't correct you:/
Manman boy lounges
@@ThePolishMermaid can't believe that people give a shit two years later
Yay part 2 has arrived, Now to enjoy another well researched video with a kickass narrator.
Such a good video. I already can't wait for the next!
You know how to pleasantly surprise your subscribers! Thank you for your amazing work!!! :)
Wish I would've found this in like 6 months so I could just binge it all. I really want to see episode 3!!
been waiting so long for this!
Thank you for this video which obviously has taken a lot of time, energy and passion to make.
Also, it's good to know you are alive ;)
this guy should do Dino Crisis. i remember remembering that game.
hey you should keep doing this series it's very entertaining.
"Lovecraftian"
Word has lost absolutely all meaning.
TWC isn’t that a romance mod for Minecraft?
TWC i mean just look at Birkin's final form, looking like a real G, literally...
Lovecraft is the Dark Souls of horror writers.
``deformed tentacle monster`` is not enough to classify something as Lovecraftian, not even close...
Leinadlink *horror writers
Leon A is wrong. Capcom confirmed canon is Claire A Leon B. Proof is Sherry getting infected only happens in Claire A.
Fantastic analysis. Looking forward to the rest of the series, especially the RE1 remake.
I think they said ClaireA; LeonB is canon.
Those "inconsistencies" you mentioned is just you going to the truck sooner than needed, even though you don't need to go there in the first place.
Very big into RE lately, so I'm glad to see this! How far into the series will you go? Will you only cover the numbered entries?
Edit: rewatching episode 1, he says "every main entry," so it's gonna be the numbered ones (unless he wants to include Code Veronica)
I'd love to see his Code Veronica analysis, because as far as I'm concerned, it's the hardest Resident Evil game in existence with some of the most frustrating boss fights.
Code veronica was a main entry, no question. Doesn't matter that it didn't have a number at the end of the title.
I keep forgetting that Resi 2 had basically four campaigns. I imagine that's why it took this long to get this particular vid out, eh?
Either way, excellent analysis. It makes me wonder if the RE2 remake (if it ever happens) will expand on these alternate scenarios and maybe create even more unique situations.
Not really 4, but the same 2 campaigns slightly altered.
6 campaigns.
Incredible work friend, keep it up
This is actually the thing that I didn't like about Resident Evil 2. It was just another mansion again. First game did it better, so repeating the same thing again wasn't as good. That's why Resident Evil 3: Nemesis was superior game for me. You got actually to explore Raccoon City! And Nemesis was a new thing: He would follow you through rooms. He was like Mr. X 2.0, but perfected.
RE2 is a great game, but it didn't strike me as well as 1st and 3rd game did! :)
I remember I used to be afraid of Nemesis. XD
What boggles my mind is the fact that RE2 is what introduced the urban premise but decided NOT to use it.
as much as i love love RE2, im on the same page with you RE3 was my Fav over RE2 but still i love all the classic RE games with tank control and fixe camera...
They are all awesome, Solid. :)
Agreed there... really strange!
Leon fulfilled his duty that thoroughly only because that person is Ada xD
We find out... SIX MONTHS FROM NOW!
You never fail to produce awesome, thoughtful, funny videos. Keep up the excellent work!
Let's play a drinking game of spotting DMC jokes on every non-DMC video since the DMC retrospective video.
Thank you! Can't wait for the RE3 video.
Another fantastic video, you are probably one of the better personalities on UA-cam.
Damn it's been a while. Hell yeah!