The M79 of the 1700s - Hand Mortar

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    Grenades have been part of warfare for a long time, and so have grenade launchers. In this video we demonstrate a reproduction 1600-1700's era Hand Mortar grenade launcher from Veteran Arms.

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  • @ronwoch
    @ronwoch 8 місяців тому +215

    "Once you light the fuse, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend."

  • @tmack11
    @tmack11 8 місяців тому +1102

    Karl holding a lit grenade with a nonplussed expression is straight up Looney Toons lol

    • @democracyforall
      @democracyforall 8 місяців тому +1

      If I am not wrong with a bit of update it can still be used....

    • @realcritical-kr2dd
      @realcritical-kr2dd 8 місяців тому +2

      This gun is in fortnite!!

    • @thomusroye5667
      @thomusroye5667 7 місяців тому +6

      Hello it's me, 🤓, and i want to tell you that the is the wrong way to use the word nonplussed. You do get a pass because that's how it is most commonly used tho

    • @user-nc5gr8qu1i
      @user-nc5gr8qu1i 7 місяців тому +1

      The terms use depends on if it is American English or not. And even then there are regional and educational differences.

    • @sloshed4life425
      @sloshed4life425 6 місяців тому +1

      @@thomusroye5667If you’re going to correct people at least build a proper sentence 😂
      “That the is the”

  • @DeviantOllam
    @DeviantOllam 8 місяців тому +662

    This looks like an absolute treat. Also that fuse burndown take at the start... Heh, even though we all knew what was up, it was still harrowing to watch

    • @ianh2950
      @ianh2950 8 місяців тому +19

      "this is now burning"

    • @Ashtonking-bu2mb
      @Ashtonking-bu2mb 8 місяців тому +1

      I almost had a heart attack

    • @mechbfp3219
      @mechbfp3219 8 місяців тому +6

      I was expecting a meme explosion to be inserted for giggles.

  • @komitadjie
    @komitadjie 8 місяців тому +528

    I think they skipped a critical step in the misfire doctrine, between the "throw away" and "use rope to retrieve" steps, there's likely a missing "shake out your shorts" operation.

    • @masterofdesaster8
      @masterofdesaster8 8 місяців тому +79

      Not in the manual for Scottish troops...

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 8 місяців тому +40

      frankly they all had dysentery back then, so not much left to shake out, I'm afraid

    • @invictusmaneo464
      @invictusmaneo464 8 місяців тому

      :D :D

    • @ronroche3138
      @ronroche3138 8 місяців тому +5

      Don't ask, don't tell!

    • @Nantosuelta
      @Nantosuelta 8 місяців тому +9

      @@phileas007 Its such a horrible thought that a lot of those guys were marching all day in wool pants and just squirtin all over the place. The horror

  • @BagsyBag
    @BagsyBag 8 місяців тому +1510

    The part with the grenade fuse looks very meme-able.

    • @Antics456
      @Antics456 8 місяців тому +95

      that bit was absolutely done to be made into those cut explosions, still love em

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 8 місяців тому +47

      It's a compliment to Ian's "There is no time delayed to this" on the RPG

    • @potatosordfighter666
      @potatosordfighter666 8 місяців тому +5

      Made it just now XD

    • @potatosordfighter666
      @potatosordfighter666 8 місяців тому +2

      @@WingMaster562 Agreed!

    • @DABrock-author
      @DABrock-author 8 місяців тому +34

      Once the fuse is lit, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.

  • @fire_tower
    @fire_tower 8 місяців тому +1867

    The tactical tether, is certainly one approach to failures to fire.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 8 місяців тому +190

      the grenades weren't the only metal balls that grenadiers had.

    • @Shamanscircle1
      @Shamanscircle1 8 місяців тому +58

      I think I like the technical term: "Tactical Tugger"

    • @joedingo7022
      @joedingo7022 8 місяців тому +19

      It converts from a grenade launcher into a blunderbuss.

    • @scottmccrea1873
      @scottmccrea1873 8 місяців тому +4

      Is there a _strategic_ tugger? Does it cost extra? 🤣😂🤣 @@Shamanscircle1

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 8 місяців тому

      @@joedingo7022 not really

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 8 місяців тому +294

    According to my reading, it was rapidly discovered that lighting the fuse in advance of firing is superfluous. The blast of firing automatically lights the fuse . . . that became common practice at sea for fused rounds. Saves on the uncertainty of a two man slow match team.

    • @rlbadger1698
      @rlbadger1698 8 місяців тому +18

      Yup, Coehorn mortar.

    • @zedre7633
      @zedre7633 8 місяців тому +69

      I imagine it would also save you the uncertainty of having a time bomb inside the gun that may not shoot it far away in time.

    • @Alexey_Selivanov
      @Alexey_Selivanov 8 місяців тому +13

      How come? To begin with, the safety fuse depicted in the video is completely ahistorical, meaning it was invented in the early 19th century only, decades after hand mortars fell out of use. Earlier, there were basically two options for grenades: a form of slow match (just infused with larger amounts of saltpeter and thus burning much faster - I won't bother you with the details) and a tubular fuse that was filled with special powder mix and inserted into the grenade (somewhat resembling modern grenade fuses, just without the priming mechanism). The first wasn't particularly good for grenades (its burning rate isn't sufficiently stable), though it was still used in some special 17th century designs. The tubular powder-based fuse was the main form of fuse used in all types of powder grenades throughout most of their history. However, simply firing the grenade from a hand mortar with the fuse looking forward wasn't sufficient to light it with any degree of certainty, and the attempts to place the grenade with the fuse looking into the barrel ended in accidents, as elements of the burning fuse were pushed into the grenade by the pressure of the powder gases, resulting in an immediate explosion inside the barrel. That, alongside with the fact that the hand mortar itself could easily misfire, leaving you with a primed grenade inside the barrel, apparently was one of the factors that led to the hand mortars falling out of use in the mid 18th century (when hand grenades still retained some limited use in the navy). What reading you're referring to?

    • @eleethtahgra7182
      @eleethtahgra7182 8 місяців тому +1

      Cannon n ship...so thats 1700 n up
      Perhaps this is the 1600 model?

    • @imantsjansons5009
      @imantsjansons5009 8 місяців тому +28

      It was the Dutch who learned to shoot bombs from mortars. A bomb was a hollow metal ball filled with powder and having a small hole in it for a fuse.
      First they tried “single firing” which was putting the bomb into the mortar with the fuse down, in contact with the propelling charge. That didn’t work. Firing the mortar often drove the fuse right into the bomb and blew it up right in front of the gun.
      Then they tried “double firing” with the bomb turned over, fuse up, and the gunner lighted the fuse by hand at the same time he lighted the touch-hole of the piece. this required a nice sense of timing It wasn’t until 1650 that someone discovered, probably by accident, that double firing was unnecessary. The heat of firing would light the fuse even though it was turned away from the exploding charge. More precisely, it was the flame of the propelling charge firing, washing around the bomb through the windage, that ignited the fuze. This method was standard up through the American Civil War. From forgottenweapons com

  • @fernandog.ramirez.6917
    @fernandog.ramirez.6917 8 місяців тому +66

    I love those old era weapons, they look so sketchy that it makes them instantly awesome.

  • @mccann8806
    @mccann8806 8 місяців тому +494

    My buddy and I were discussing our mutual growing interest in black powder guns, and a decreased interest in contemporary tactical guns. Then we realized we're both entering middle age.

    • @rossjohnston8144
      @rossjohnston8144 8 місяців тому +22

      I’m probably half yalls age and feeling the same… just got my first cap and ball revolver and I have a giddy feeling it’s going to be more fun to shoot than my glock

    • @richardlahan7068
      @richardlahan7068 8 місяців тому +7

      Just got my 1766 Charleville and I can't wait to get it to the range! Guess this is something that middle-aged "gun guys" experience.

    • @shanedebarra4986
      @shanedebarra4986 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@richardlahan7068ha 😂 ... I bought a Charleville as my first musket when I was 22 because I got bored of regular shooting ... used that thing for everything, rabbit, geese, duck, deer ... accurate out to 200 yards... only thing I struggle with it is close, fast moving stuff ... it's the weight and length. But a brilliant all round gun.
      If I could only have one gun it'd be the Charley 👍
      And buck & ball is a beast ... it'll drop anything !!!
      Great gun, enjoy it 👍

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 8 місяців тому +11

      Bold to assume I'm not whipping out the Blunderbuss for defense

    • @billmelater6470
      @billmelater6470 8 місяців тому +6

      I wish I got into BP earlier but after doing it for 3 years now it's almost all I shoot anymore. It's so much fun and a great way to spend a day at that range. They really aren't that difficult to manage or clean. People who only know modern guns make a big deal out of it. Other than that, I find the loading ritual to be fun.
      Just be sure to use real BP whenever you can, especially if you're using a flintlock.

  • @tomdixon7264
    @tomdixon7264 8 місяців тому +292

    I was at an 1812 re-enactment where there was a competition between one of these and an M-204 for distance. The smoke pole outshot the modern equivalent by about 60 feet. Impressive.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 8 місяців тому +24

      This is a handmortar, not the Shooting distance in flat fire is important. Important is ,Steilfeuer' ( don' t know english word) it is fired into Air in high Angle for a parabol ( ?) way of flight. The mortars, also howitzers , usually are Not intended for direct aimed fire. The high angle fire has the reason, that in case of a siege the fortress is surrounded by a trench system similar to wwl. The soldier, standing in an attack trench/ ditch dug next to high stone walls , or thick earth ramparts covered with palisades or earth filled large baskets ( Gabiones) can" throw a handgrenade over a high obstacle, when standing before the obstacle, there is the danger, that you throw grenade against upper part of wall, and it jumps back to you

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 8 місяців тому +19

      Forgotten: The Handmortar is intended to throw the grenades over high obstacles on rather short distance, not only for throwing handgrenades over a long distance

    • @barkmaker
      @barkmaker 8 місяців тому +11

      Kids, if they were shooting for distance, neither one was fired straight. They were both shot at an angle up into the air.
      ...and if your target was not on the other side of a wall, you would indeed shoot it straight at your target, perhaps a window on a house or on a ship.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 8 місяців тому +7

      @@brittakriep2938 the english term you were looking for is "indirekt fire". (not as descriptive as Steilfeuer, but that's what they got)
      As for the distance thing: it still is a "valid" comparisson, as modern day grenade launchers also can be used for Steilfeuer, and in general, the distance also gives you an impression about "how high" the obstacle can be or how heavy the load can be and still get over there.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 8 місяців тому +2

      @@nirfz : I am Brittas boyfriend, only using her Computer too. I personally think that those handmortars of muzzleloader era are a siege thing, perhaps naval battle thing, not so much a field battle thing, and small ones had been , according to Ian McCollum ( Forgotten Weapons channel) a civilian Fireworks thing. Why do i think so? In 17th century the grenadiers had been soldiers, operating alone or in small groups as light infantry men/ in german Plänkler, to throw grenades into Tercios or other tight ( ?)formations. After Thirty Years War these grenadiers became regular Units , seen as Elite troops. Being an Elite troops they got flintlock muskets before regular musketeers, who sometimes had arround 1700 still matchlock muskets. In contrast to musketeers, the grenadiers carried their flintlock muskets with a sling at their back. To not loosing their hat when taking the musket from Back, they got a Zipfelmütze ( don' t know Englisch word). But relative early in 18th century the throwing of grenades became rarer, you notice this in grenadiers cap with decoratve Metal or textile covered cartboard frontpiece, such a Cap would Fall down, when taking a musket with sling from Back. In Mid 18th century, as far as i know, unloaded handgrenades remained in Fortress inventorys for siege fights, and on warships ( Here in Pirates, privateers or merchant vessels context often only powderfilled bottles). So handmortars use in 18th century field Battles? Doubtfull. So i don' t realy believe, that distance/ reach was then important.
      But in wwl this trenchwarfare had much similarity to siege warfare of especially 17th century. Starting in 1890s, Experiments with handgrenades and new variants of Military Explosives had a Comeback. Note: In 1890s Swiss engineer troops still had ,Petarden' in Stock. When trench warfare started in 1914, No european Army was really prepared, so i believe the Story, that british officers ordered the use of 17th century Coehorn mortars from Museums as First emergency weapons.
      But in wwl rifle grenades appeared, in this Case as infantrymans light artillry, reach became a thing . In wwl may be Not so important, but in wwll reach became for mobile warfare reason really important, siege warfare with indirekt fire became lesser important.

  • @ievgenvetruk5026
    @ievgenvetruk5026 8 місяців тому +52

    It was the art of artillery. Everyone chose their own shooting style. If the grenade body is strong enough and does not need a soft lining, it was fired not by double fire but by single fire. The fire of the shot was ignited by a wooden tubular fuse. For the reliability of ignition, a black match was inserted into the end of the tube and sprinkled with gunpowder dust

  • @simonwaldock9689
    @simonwaldock9689 8 місяців тому +24

    Thank you once again from my historical author wife for displaying another period weapon. This will doubtless appear in her future writings as she is chuckling gleefully and humming a martial folk song of the era.

  • @TheJudoJoker
    @TheJudoJoker 8 місяців тому +1042

    Russel: Hey Karl that's a very fitting costume for today's video!
    Karl: Oh, right. Yes. This was a costume. A costume that I definitely picked out specifically because of the topic of today's video.

  • @LIETUVIS10STUDIO1
    @LIETUVIS10STUDIO1 8 місяців тому +251

    That's awesome. I'm so glad you are doing more black powder stuff, it's honestly been coolest part of your channel.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому +49

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    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +7

      Yup love all the black powder stuff 😁😁😁😁

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 8 місяців тому +4

      Like the old
      West
      He tells the truth
      Not like my 20 years of reading

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune 8 місяців тому +16

    Gotta love the blackpowder episodes! Going from high end modern guns for competitions to old guns that reload slower than par times on some stages

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому +2

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  • @terryschiller2625
    @terryschiller2625 8 місяців тому +23

    Thank you Karl for sharing this. I never heard of that weapon and early grenades. History is so amazing to me.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому +5

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  • @trischas.2809
    @trischas.2809 8 місяців тому +137

    Let me get you a slight correction on Grenades:
    * During the Siege of Vienna in 1683, the Ottoman troops used grenades made from glass with a fuse on the outside. On the other hand, the Austrian defenders used cast iron grenades with a fuse leading in. The Ottoman glass grenade was mainly a shock weapon... the Austrian iron grenade maimed and killed with shrapnell.

    • @ravenoferin500
      @ravenoferin500 8 місяців тому +30

      Glass shards and powder would be nightmare for the eyes. That's an extreme flashbang.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 8 місяців тому +17

      @@ravenoferin500 The glass would likely turn to just powder from the explosion, it's too brittle to maintain large shards from that type of concussive blast.

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 8 місяців тому +8

      And which part exactly did you now correct?

    • @cmendla
      @cmendla 8 місяців тому +6

      The movie, The Siege of Vienna 1683 Shows some use of grenades. There is a scene in With Fire and Sword that shows it in more detail.
      Don't know which would be worse, getting hit with a grenade or getting hit by the 18' hollow lance of the Husaria that splintered inside the target.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 8 місяців тому +12

      @@cmendla The function of the hollow lances breaking didn't serve to make the wounding any more grievous, it just helped the lancer leave the melee easier to reform for another charge. It was suppose to break in the middle, not near the lance head.

  • @ChandlerThomasvoon100
    @ChandlerThomasvoon100 8 місяців тому +183

    Stuff like this really makes you have an appreciation for modern day technology. I can only imagine how many soldiers got sent to an early death for accidentally not loading enough powder into their grenade launcher lol

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +6

      Yup many did I imagine

    • @thepizzaisaggressive1823
      @thepizzaisaggressive1823 8 місяців тому

      now we have safer ways of killing other people lol

    • @danielapel1976
      @danielapel1976 8 місяців тому +4

      They died full of Joy.

    • @TheBuster731
      @TheBuster731 8 місяців тому +11

      Also keep in mind that mixing gunpowder was more of an art then a science at this point. No one really understood the chemistry and the ingredients had no purity guarantee meaning that what was the right amount of powder one load could be not enough the next. At that point Id rather be a pike-man then the guy handed one of these.

    • @ericyell898
      @ericyell898 8 місяців тому +1

      That damned thing seems dangerous, I don't know myself, but I think if that thing did not fire out of the gun (mortar) or what have you, and you were unable to throw it the last option would be to RUN!

  • @ArizonaGhostriders
    @ArizonaGhostriders 6 місяців тому +2

    This was a whole lot of fun. I am reminded of lighting firecrackers with fast fuses and almost blowing my fingers off.

  • @fearlessfruge6445
    @fearlessfruge6445 8 місяців тому +7

    My 6x? great grandfather was a grenadier with the regiment of saintonge, french army. Present at Yorktown
    1781 , I bet he would ve liked to have one these when they took the redoubts.
    After that he joined his brothers in Louisiana ( who fought under General Galvez, becoming creole/cajun settlers of Opelousas, La.
    Mobile & Pensacola)

  • @Masterhitman935
    @Masterhitman935 8 місяців тому +217

    As the founding father intended./s
    On a more serious note, This is a very fearsome weapon for both the team operators and besieged occupants.

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +11

      Yup the same danger firing the canons in that time period one Scottish king got killed by a canon on his side it blown it's self up
      Even in re enactment the blank charges have caused injury to people seen it happen broken ram rod being fired out on that time flintlock but it's happened with canons too

    • @notchagrandpa8875
      @notchagrandpa8875 8 місяців тому +8

      Nah if it were as the founders envisioned the grenades would’ve been filled with gunpowder and we would’ve seen two explosions every time he fired the launcher. JS

    • @corcorandm
      @corcorandm 8 місяців тому +3

      Thanks to NYSRPA v. Bruen we now must study the text history and tradition of these hand cannons 🎉

    • @freman007
      @freman007 8 місяців тому +3

      @@viperscot1
      Yes, miniature sculptor Michael Perry lost his right hand in 1996 due to an accident loading a reproduction cannon.

    • @pain_weaver
      @pain_weaver 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@notchagrandpa8875actually black powder isn't an explosive. No it would still be lawful. Legal on the other hand... it's a toss up

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il 8 місяців тому +12

    Dammit Karl, I got the blunderbuss because of you and now i gotta get this, my kids will never get into college. Lol

  • @toddfarthing8760
    @toddfarthing8760 8 місяців тому +13

    As a combat medic you cannot believe the tidal wave of anxiety that swept over me as that fuse burnt down.

    • @thecamocampaindude5167
      @thecamocampaindude5167 8 місяців тому +3

      That means your training stuck with you

    • @azgarogly
      @azgarogly 8 місяців тому

      Just a little note, "as a combat medic" should be after "swept over me".
      Otherwise the statement presumes the reader is a combat medic :)

    • @toddfarthing8760
      @toddfarthing8760 8 місяців тому

      @@azgarogly was a 91B10!

    • @toddfarthing8760
      @toddfarthing8760 8 місяців тому

      @@thecamocampaindude5167 I've seen explosive amputation twice. Both men lived.

    • @toddfarthing8760
      @toddfarthing8760 8 місяців тому

      @@azgarogly English was never my best subject but you seem like a cunning linguist 🤣

  • @dimitristripakis7364
    @dimitristripakis7364 7 місяців тому +2

    The flow of this man's speech is equally enjoyable as the subject at hand. Nice to watch!

  • @aaronzigelbaum
    @aaronzigelbaum 8 місяців тому +15

    Even if I knew I was holding a fake grenade with a lit fuse it would still make me feel uneasy

    • @joshuabessire9169
      @joshuabessire9169 8 місяців тому +1

      As Paladin once said "Don't worry, it's loaded.Its the unloaded ones you have to be careful about."

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 8 місяців тому +79

    Early grenades were called petards, and were used from the late 1300s on. This is where the expression "hoist on your own petard" , comes from.

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 8 місяців тому

      Petards where more like breeching charges, set up against doors.

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 8 місяців тому +46

      Petards were usually a door breaching charge.
      The master gunner made up a domed iron plate filled with a powder charge and sealed with wood.
      Then assistants were hired, either a someone drunk, crazy or greedy enough do do something stupid for money. Master gunners were rare and worth protecting, crazy people werent.
      The petardiers run up to a castle door, one man holds the charge in the right place, the other uses a hammer and nails to fit it in the right position.
      Then they light the charge and do their Jesse Owens impression before the boom.
      Considering the chance of being shot on the way, accidentally setting off the charge when hammering or knocking out loose powder near a slow match (hoist by youw own petard meaning blown into the air by your own weapon) or shot on the way out it was a near suicidal job.

    • @txgunguy2766
      @txgunguy2766 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@voiceofraisin3778
      The petards that I'm aware of were just explosives on a board which attached at the bottom to a pole. The petard was simply leaned against the wall, explosive side to the wall. It was NOT a safe, cushy job.

    • @atlas4733
      @atlas4733 8 місяців тому +6

      Pétard in modern french = firecracker. It literally means "farter" XD

    • @catodes1295
      @catodes1295 8 місяців тому +1

      They have petards in Chivalry 2 which are used as gate breachers or for demolishing buildings

  • @johnc2438
    @johnc2438 8 місяців тому +6

    I carried one in Vietnam in 1970 - 1971! Amazing! 😉

  • @dwrdwlsn5
    @dwrdwlsn5 4 місяці тому +1

    I saw a 1750s era flintlock swivel gun that was made by a man who did historical arms and worked part time at the Fortress of Louisbourg in Nova Scotia. I was an intern there, lerning historic interpretation and I learned a lot but what sticks in my head is the engraving on the muzzle of that weapon- 'Happy is he who escapes me'
    The barrel was a bit longer than this, but still... OUCH!

  • @handy_man9157
    @handy_man9157 8 місяців тому +37

    Scary and cool as heck at the same time

    • @jonatan0909
      @jonatan0909 8 місяців тому

      That's weapons in a nutshell

  • @MehDarth
    @MehDarth 8 місяців тому +18

    Thank you for all the years of content @InRangeTV. You really got me interested in firearms and their history. One day I hope I'll financially be able to show the appreciation via patreon. But, until that day Karl, Thank you. Thank you for everything.

  • @scottmccrea1873
    @scottmccrea1873 8 місяців тому +6

    Thank you. I always wondered how the hell one of these would be used in actuality. That's the value of this channel. Please keep up the fantastic history lessons.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому +1

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  • @TheGuyWithTheSniper
    @TheGuyWithTheSniper 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video, was really cool to get an in-depth look at Ye Olde Twoscore Michael-Michael.

  • @rofljohn23
    @rofljohn23 8 місяців тому +41

    One thing Karl forgot to mention was the CQC drill for use when a grenade would be danger close. The operator would load the gun as demonstrated, but exchange the grenade payload for one of the giant brass balls the shooter had between his legs!

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 yup they did

  • @andrewmn3024
    @andrewmn3024 8 місяців тому +7

    very cool! Hope this a stage gun at Pirate Brutality

  • @Maldunn
    @Maldunn 8 місяців тому +5

    This was great Karl, love your history videos, both old weapons and stories of the past. Your first hand experience of using the weapons adds a lot. Thanks!

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    • @Maldunn
      @Maldunn 8 місяців тому +2

      @@InrangeTv Been a patron supporter since the pandemic and happy to see you and the channel still going strong!

  • @simonacerton3478
    @simonacerton3478 8 місяців тому +2

    Read about these. Never though I'd see one explained in depth and shot. Amazing.

  • @commandZee
    @commandZee 8 місяців тому +17

    So funky! It looks like what a Dr. Suss character or Willy Wonka would be armed with.

    • @skjaldulfr
      @skjaldulfr 8 місяців тому +1

      lol, and who would Willy Wonka be shooting with that?

    • @58jharris
      @58jharris 8 місяців тому +1

      @@skjaldulfr You have to keep those Oompa Loompa's in line somehow.

  • @revy1063
    @revy1063 8 місяців тому +4

    That is such an awesome thing, that boost is beautiful

  • @SuperOtter13
    @SuperOtter13 8 місяців тому +2

    Love this kind of content. Thank you Carl for sharing the historical stuff with us

  • @PorcoWest
    @PorcoWest 8 місяців тому +6

    Amazing as ever karl I adore your historical stuff and this was a treat.

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  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock 8 місяців тому +4

    We used to play around w/tennis ball mortars, taking three metal 3-ball containers, cutting the bottoms out of 2 and duct-taping them together to form the "barrel". Punch a fuse hole at the bottom, add fuse, half a 35 mm film tin of BP & a tennis ball. Bedded in sand on the beach at a 45° angle, it would lob the ball out 200-300 yds.into the river.the rattle-fit of ball in cans kept pressure low, but we used plenty of fuse, and distance for safety!! BUT.. cut a slit in the ball,add a cherry bomb/M-80 w/ the fuse sticking out, load w/fuse toward muzzle . flame fr/main charge washes around ball & lights firework on way out the barrel. Nice air burst approx. 150 yds out... finally blew the tube up with a tin and a half charge, split at seam... God looks out for kids, fools and drunks, we covered 2 out of 3! 😁

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 8 місяців тому

      Spud guns. Or a really big one for Pumpkin Chuckin' 😲 l can just see Kentucky Ballistics with that one.

  • @vamsterr
    @vamsterr 8 місяців тому +5

    Thats a really cool piece of kit man! Thanks so much for showing it off :D

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 4 місяці тому +1

    Just over a decade ago, the swedish national TV released a documentary series called "Svenska slag", ("Swedish battles").
    In one episode, they actually tested this type of black powder grenade. They had obviously secured the necessary permits etc.
    The grenades were made from cast iron, with a powder charge and a fuse. They set them up with a few showroom dummies around, to see the effects on soldiers.
    They were _very_ effective. The shells would shatter into a few large pieces and many smaller fragments. The large pieces would go through just about anyone within, I believe, 15-20 yards, while the smaller fragments would cause serious injuries, potentially lethal.

  • @gibbyg2001
    @gibbyg2001 8 місяців тому +1

    I watch UA-cam all day, lots of gun stuff and history stuff, this has to be one of the coolest videos in recent memory!

  • @creightonfreeman8059
    @creightonfreeman8059 8 місяців тому +10

    You should launch "grenade" smoke bombs with it so you can see where it lands. If you live in a dry area (as it appears you do) just make sure you do it after a rain so as to not catch the landscape on fire.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 8 місяців тому +2

      If you filled these steel balls with smoke powder you should be able to get a pretty accurate visual representation

    • @azgarogly
      @azgarogly 8 місяців тому

      @@CAMSLAYER13 Not much so, as if these where filled with black powder, the shooter better take cover when they explode instead of being observing the impact.
      I mean the risk of getting hit form that distance is not that high, but there is no guarantee whatsoever the grenade won't split in half on explosion and the chunk of metal that size would easily cover the distance.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 8 місяців тому

      @@azgarogly no, the shit they put in smoke bombs

  • @ronroche3138
    @ronroche3138 8 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting! I enjoyed your review of both historical grenade launching techniques as well as the really cool OG M-79.
    Of course, now I want one...

  • @beard3d381
    @beard3d381 8 місяців тому +2

    Once again, InRange puts out stellar content. Thank you Karl.

  • @flyingfalcon8999
    @flyingfalcon8999 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't know about anyone else but I like these historical videos the most.

  • @kurt5490
    @kurt5490 8 місяців тому +5

    Growing up 45 minutes from Gettysburg Pa, I've always wondered why grenades, launchers and smaller caliber man portable mortars weren't used. How many battlefields, battles had a stonewall, "sunken road" or a flank that was "floating in air"? These features are what battles pivoted on. Indirect fire at the company/regimental level could have held the line or pushed the "Schwerpunkt".
    I geuss it would have taken far more training and discipline for this to work than most armies were willing to commit to. A grenade launcher with each platoon could have been game changing.

  • @Secret_Takodachi
    @Secret_Takodachi 8 місяців тому +9

    I do really appreciate that the pre-modern version of a hand grenade really did look like a cartoon bomb. 😂❤ There's just something about a nice, smooth shell with the classic fuse sticking out the topic. Really makes you wanna tie a damsel in distress to some train tracks and twirl your glorious mustache 🤣

    • @AdamantLightLP
      @AdamantLightLP 8 місяців тому +4

      That's where the classic depiction of bombs in cartoons came from.

    • @dxb338
      @dxb338 8 місяців тому +2

      @@AdamantLightLP also from what today would be called a mortar shell. early (pre industrial revolution) mortars fired "bombs" which were just a bigger grenade. same operation as this thing.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 8 місяців тому +2

      where do you think cartoonists got the idea from?

  • @Combat_Pyro
    @Combat_Pyro 4 місяці тому +2

    You could load the grenade fuse down and the projection charge will ignite the fuse. You could also place the grenade into the barrel and then light the fuse for more time to aim and fire.

  • @pablofalcao1700
    @pablofalcao1700 8 місяців тому +2

    What a beauty of a piece of history!

  • @Terratops474
    @Terratops474 8 місяців тому +3

    That's really cool! I've read about hand mortars, but never seen one in action.

  • @ayebraine
    @ayebraine 8 місяців тому +3

    I was always enchanted by these hand mortarts in the Artillery museum in Saint-Petersburg. They are definitely impressive, and elegant

  • @rocketcitycreations
    @rocketcitycreations 8 місяців тому +2

    Currently waiting on my Military Blunderbuss from VA! I ordered because of your earlier video on it. Thank you so much for what you do

  • @Harry-bc2dn
    @Harry-bc2dn 8 місяців тому +2

    Sweet video! Certainly a dearth of information on this weapon - your contribution is much appreciated!

  • @me.ne.frego.
    @me.ne.frego. 8 місяців тому +20

    Absolutely beautiful piece, I love black powder and your videos are awesome. In my country (Argentina) muzzleloaders are free to sale and own, like airguns, but they are scarce and very expensive. I only own an Uberti Colt 1860 and I'm in love with it, but reliability is an issue because of poor percussion caps. Greetings from the far South!

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому +6

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    • @francisdec1615
      @francisdec1615 8 місяців тому

      Same here in Sweden. Unfortunately some gun dealers are so brain washed by "gun control" propaganda, that they don't sell to people who don't have a license for a modern firearm already, but most of them do.

  • @Erikreaver
    @Erikreaver 8 місяців тому +12

    Oooh boy! I have been recently researching these, and they came about only a few decades if that after pistols did with the wheellock. Speaking of, plenty surviving beautiful pieces around. Wheellock seems to be a more reliable system, by a bit. Some also have secondary match locks! Clever if you ask me, and practical.
    What I find interesting is that there seems to be two groups, roughly, which are shortbarreled ones of say 50-75mm bores like you have, and there are those that are roughly 35-40mm with somewhat longer barrels, say pistol to carbine length, also mentioned as hand mortars. Nothing wrong with smaller grenade I think, it would make recoil more managable, and guess what caliber today's grenade launchers are. People's capabilities such as capacity to withstand recoil does not change, only equipment does, hah!
    Now here's the thing, I have read that blunderbusses may have evolved from hand mortars. I reckon that some of those smaller bore handmortars could pull double duty with HEAVY charges of pistol bullets/buckshot, ey?
    Lastly, reckon you could make grenades under the federal limit of what was it, quarter ounce explosive, and just have it burst chalk powder, much like the training rounds for 40mm, or something similar? Would make for an interesting video! Cheers Karl!

    • @johnanthony6710
      @johnanthony6710 8 місяців тому

      I'm somewhat skeptical that a 35mm black powder grenade would be very effective in warfare; black powder is just too weak a bursting charge compared to TNT or other modern high explosives.

    • @Erikreaver
      @Erikreaver 8 місяців тому

      ​@@johnanthony6710 Very fair, nonetheless I have found about a dozen, through the centuries, which are ~38is milimetres on average, some very fancy, some very plain. It strikes me as odd that there would be this many on an already rare type of gun and had no use. I would have discarded the idea if there were just one or two. Still, albeit small, I would not like to be around grenade when it goes off, or they might have been for signalling, and double duty as a cluster of shot for direct combat. I suppose it would require testing, and at the end of the day it is just my theory, but I reckon there is some merit to it.:)

  • @roganchapman5700
    @roganchapman5700 8 місяців тому +2

    SICK! Always wanted to see how these work, they're so bizarre looking. Cheers man.

  • @3hprodaction
    @3hprodaction 17 днів тому

    So cool to see how old things works thanks!

  • @d.l.hemmingway3758
    @d.l.hemmingway3758 8 місяців тому +4

    That's what few in today's history classes understand, the job of the Grenadier also encompassed the two man crew of the Handmortar. The Thumper/ Blooper was a old concept and weapon long before the M-79. In modern wars WW-1 onward the weapon evolved from a cup or spigot that attached to the end of the issue battle rifle to the M-79 then to the weapons like the M-203 and its later progeny.

  • @benjaminnevins5211
    @benjaminnevins5211 8 місяців тому +4

    Crew-served weapons of the 1600's

  • @onecanada1167
    @onecanada1167 3 місяці тому +1

    I, if I could, I wish; would purchase this amazing firearm in a heartbeat.

  • @balancemeditation3157
    @balancemeditation3157 8 днів тому

    This piece is unique. And the story behind is just cool! Thanks for the video!

  • @Oddball0311
    @Oddball0311 8 місяців тому +8

    I’d love to see you do a collaboration with someone who has the licensing, so you could fire a functional reproduction of a period grenade.

    • @azgarogly
      @azgarogly 8 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely.
      But I hardly see the safe way for doing that.
      Too many things can go wrong with the metal container full of powder and the fuse lit.
      Black powder grenades are dangerous, probably that's the reason they are illegal.

  • @sejembalm
    @sejembalm 8 місяців тому +7

    Before this 2.5" tennis ball flintlock hand mortar, I remember seeing internet photos (ten or so years back?) of a slimmer model designed to load and launch golf balls (diameter of 1.68" or 42.67 mm). No, not those AR15 Can Cannons, but a thick flintlock belted brass barrel burning bomb blooper. Anyone know of such things for sale?

    • @Erikreaver
      @Erikreaver 8 місяців тому +1

      I know exactly which one you mean. Far as I know, that was Veteran Arms as well, first model, which made way for this larger bore one. Shame, as I prefered the looks of the first one myself.

    • @sejembalm
      @sejembalm 8 місяців тому

      Yeah,@@Erikreaver and it looked like something you could actually shoot at a target. The barrel reminded me of 14th century medieval handgonnes that were strapped to stocks that sort of resembled old boat tillers and the gun was ignited with a little cannon fuse, or a short length of burning rope (a slow match) held in a stick, or a hot wire jammed into powder-filled divot over the touch-hole.
      Maybe Veteran Arms was worried that goofballs would start shooting at their friends with golf balls which could be very lethal and that a hand mortar firing larger but softer tennis balls was the better move, and the bigger model resembled the actual flintlock grenade launchers of the 17th and 18th centuries.

  • @TheEsotericaChannel
    @TheEsotericaChannel 8 місяців тому +2

    This looks like a weapon that they would make up for dungeons & dragons

  • @marleyboy7732
    @marleyboy7732 6 місяців тому

    Oh that is beautiful. Whoever made it did a great job. Good vid!

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
    @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation 8 місяців тому +4

    "Parry this, you filthy casual!"

  • @prophecy7777
    @prophecy7777 8 місяців тому +4

    Neat, I always thought these took a much larger powder charge.

    • @PiercedRivetHead
      @PiercedRivetHead 8 місяців тому +2

      It's kinda wild just how little of a charge even modern grenade launchers have.

  • @markmiller7761
    @markmiller7761 4 місяці тому

    Great video! Put myself on the waiting list for this one.

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 8 місяців тому +2

    A WW2 American mortar was shown in a movie being fired off the thigh. A few soldiers who tried to do likewise with live mortars suffered a broken femur.

  • @reidboggs4344
    @reidboggs4344 8 місяців тому +5

    Now imagine a phalanx wall of these firing a cannonball in succession at charging infantry. Not certain they were ever used in that way, but mobile artillery would have been a problem.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 8 місяців тому

      They had mobile artillery. They had cannons and big mortars they could cart about. I don't doubt a volley of these would be effective but it would be very expensive to pull off.

    • @chrisf247
      @chrisf247 8 місяців тому

      I think the power level of the propellant charge is more like "it throws it further than just your arm" instead of firing it like a cannon ball.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 8 місяців тому +9

    Every time I see that thing it's always claimed to be either mortar/grenade launcher, OR not suitable for said role and being used solely as signal gun/fireworks launcher. I've heard so many from both sides that I just gave up on having opinion on either usage.

    • @sergeikuranov7033
      @sergeikuranov7033 8 місяців тому +2

      Well, apparently some of them were of one kind, others from another) Have seen tons of them in museums, would be ridiculous if it were for fsignal purposes only.

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +2

      Your right flares were used too from similar flintlock or both flare's and nade from same

  • @najeebbaterdouk9253
    @najeebbaterdouk9253 Місяць тому

    Excellent presentation sir - thank you.

  • @TUCOtheratt
    @TUCOtheratt 8 місяців тому

    That thumbnail worked man! Great Video!👍

  • @LeeMorgan07
    @LeeMorgan07 8 місяців тому +4

    If you held onto the gun and the grenade, how likely was it to blow the barrel apart vs. just holding it facing down range?

    • @justinschmitt5850
      @justinschmitt5850 8 місяців тому

      I think the recoil would catapult the gun in your face/chest

  • @matteoorlandi856
    @matteoorlandi856 8 місяців тому +5

    ok but now i feel the urge to ask if Pedersoli would produce an hyperfancy version of this
    also because this is thecnically a single shot muzzleloader weapon and they are not much more than toys here in taly. in fact, there is no caliber limits for such weapons in the italian law, so if you have the money, and some cannon makers is willing, you can commission a muzzleloader cannon to him and there is notthing the law can complain about it. sadly casting cannons is expensive. sadly.

    • @FerdinandFake
      @FerdinandFake 8 місяців тому +2

      Stuff a tennis ball in there and whoever gets hit takes a time out

    • @igornoga5362
      @igornoga5362 8 місяців тому +1

      Maybe machine the barrel instead of casting it? It seems small enough to be done on a regular lathe

    • @matteoorlandi856
      @matteoorlandi856 8 місяців тому

      ho well sure, i even know a guy that makes handgonnes and small pieces like this in his workshops but... they are expensive. i was thinking about a 6 pounders at least, something you need a carriage for, THOSE are REALLY expensive. even if i know a lucky bastard that has one of those and never uses it because "it's hard to find a range where they would allow it"@@igornoga5362

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 8 місяців тому +1

      Hi my friend do they not use them in celebration in Italy or am I getting confused
      I know and seen them get used in video on you tube to celebrate think it's Germany, Switzerland Austria canny remember

    • @matteoorlandi856
      @matteoorlandi856 8 місяців тому

      they do, but only loaded with blanks
      but you need a range to shoot them with real cannonballs, i know one that would allow that, the issue is forcing my firend to bring that thing there.@@viperscot1

  • @jonenglish6617
    @jonenglish6617 8 місяців тому +1

    Such a cool piece.. Thanks for showing it to us

  • @PunchCatcher
    @PunchCatcher 8 місяців тому

    Great stuff Karl. Thanks for your work

  • @SlumberBear2k
    @SlumberBear2k 8 місяців тому

    thisis the most detailed video of fused munitions that i've ever seen. top notch.

  • @rhyknow85191
    @rhyknow85191 2 місяці тому

    I've learned something new today... That's great! Thank you sir

  • @jjb1974
    @jjb1974 4 місяці тому

    That was cool. I have never heard of one of those. Id love to have one. The history on it was also very interesting. Thanks for this video!!

  • @jumpingjacks5558
    @jumpingjacks5558 6 місяців тому

    This was very informational. Thanks so much for posting the video.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  6 місяців тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @user-zw3od7zq1p
    @user-zw3od7zq1p 7 місяців тому

    this a awesome video! please keep making them

  • @ponkarta2012
    @ponkarta2012 Місяць тому

    This is first time I watch someone really fire the ancient gernad launcher , nice video 😊🎉❤

  • @o.k.2968
    @o.k.2968 8 місяців тому

    Thank you! Wonderful weapon.

  • @thudable
    @thudable 8 місяців тому

    Very cool. Thanks so much for posting.

  • @semlohde1
    @semlohde1 8 місяців тому

    That's unreal!! Original M-79. Hurts watching it go off. Too good, thanks

  • @g.h.milanboseblut5616
    @g.h.milanboseblut5616 8 місяців тому

    Wow, this was as cool as I expected it to be. Hundred thumbs up

  • @billyganes6780
    @billyganes6780 4 місяці тому

    Very cool, thanks for your work!

  • @michaelhill6451
    @michaelhill6451 8 місяців тому +2

    You had me at "hand mortar".

  • @davidmussack4529
    @davidmussack4529 8 місяців тому

    That is amazing! Excellent review sir.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 місяців тому

      Thank you kindly!
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  • @Khorsathedark
    @Khorsathedark 8 місяців тому

    I love this content. This was fascinating.

  • @azamatbagatov973
    @azamatbagatov973 3 місяці тому

    Great presentation, never seen such sort of weapons.

  • @user-wv5fq8di2m
    @user-wv5fq8di2m 7 місяців тому

    Excellent video - Thanks!

  • @josemoreno3334
    @josemoreno3334 8 місяців тому

    That is so cool. Nice way to get rid of a Bud light. Thanks. 👍

  • @gregwright392
    @gregwright392 8 місяців тому

    Now that's was another cool and educational video!

  • @bobperrine6193
    @bobperrine6193 8 місяців тому

    Another excellent, and informative video.

  • @dalecflowers
    @dalecflowers 8 місяців тому

    You are doing the Lord's work. Great video.