💀 MÖTLEY CRÜE WERE CLOSE TO FIRING "MICK MARS" ON THEIR 1984 OZZY WORLD TOUR EXPLAINS BOB DAISLEY.
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- 💀 MÖTLEY CRÜE WERE CLOSE TO FIRING "MICK MARS" ON THEIR 1984 OZZY WORLD TOUR EXPLAINS BOB DAISLEY.
I SAVED HIM FROM GETTING FIRED.
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The reason Mick can barely walk is because he's been carrying the band since the early 80s. Great guitarist, the rest are knob heads.
Brilliant!
I'm a motley Crue fan I gotta say this is hilarious 😂
Nikki Sixx is their main songwriter and Tommy is a great drummer. Vince was an ok singer back in the day, and he's always been a good/ confident frontman- except for the fact that he lost his voice, years ago.
Carrying the band my balls! He's a decent player but he's got the Free Ride let's not kid ourselves. Just look at his solo album project 10 years and he's got half a song. He talks a big game.
@@johnnyscarecrow3363 I had heard one time that he did a solo project. I was under the impression that it was completed and that it was just never released. That's my mistake thank you for the information
No Mick, no Crue. He's the most talented in this band.
Nikki wrote the vast majority of songs.
@@MrWilly2204 Nikki can't play bass lol
@@MrWilly2204 yeah, I know. I didn't tell Nikki wasn't talented at all. I just think Mick was the key element in Motley Cure. The least talented was Vince, he couldn't sing very well live. Their producer (or producers?) made some studio magic for sure. He sounds pretty good on albums.
@chance Wilkins pee dough oh please, vince neil could never sing
@@dominikaksiazek7177 I feel you. Wasn’t disagreeing, necessarily. But Nikki wrote some great songs. Those songs are why we remember Motley. Without the songs, they would’ve faded years ago. Also agree that Mick is a key part of that Motley sound. He made them heavy.
Mick is the only member of Crüe I have any respect for. He raised those three boys all on his own and did the best he could.
OH man, you nailed it, but don't forget Doc Mcgee co parented with Mick.
🤘🤣🤘
Ha ! That's Exactly what my friends and I say...especially the last 15 years. Loved their stuff, but can't stand Tommy's ghetto wannabe bullshit or Vince. Sick of Nikki too. Mick IS the only one with any credibility.
And went on tour with the bone disease he has I can’t remember what it’s called
That’s perfect 👍🏽
If they had fired Mick Mars, it would've been the end of Motley Crue.
Exactly
AGREED.
100%
No doubt. They had a solid Guitarist without a Guitarist ego. No way they made it without him.
Yes
I can’t believe they actually considered firing Mick since he was by far the most talented , his riffs are the bands sound
I want to hear from them otherwise it's bull.
Drugs n alcohol 🙄
I would have thought if there was any evidence of this we would have heard about it a lot sooner. I honestly do not believe this story. Nope not for a single minute
It’s Mick’s riffs and Tommy’s drums. The bass and vocals could’ve been anybody else during the 80’s and it might have even improved their sound, IMO
@@raven5679 Definitely agree with that Mick had a really great tone also. Riffs like Girls and Wild Side sound fantastic tonally. Tommy's super lively drums made Crue stand out from other hair bands at the time. Good thing they didn't kick Mick out they probably would've been done by the late 80s.
Someone made a great point once. Mick was a 70's guitar player in an 80's glam metal band. This really gave them a unique sound. When I was a teen, Mick was my least favorite member, but now as an adult, he was the glue, he was the adult in the room at the time.
great point, I feel the same way ...cheers
he wasn't 'cool' when I was young... but agree, now in retrospect I think he is more than a key element... Without Nikki there is no Motley, without Mick there is no Nikki.
@@timlogan4107 great point...each member plays a crucial part
It gave more groove to them, i.e. Rattlesnake Shake, Wild Side, Girls, Girls, Girls, etc. His solo was very 70s, with slide parts, and more of a Jimmy Page type thing, then he would work up to some shredding, but it was not the main part.
You are so right on this one. I saw them on this tour with Ozzy in '84, and being a drummer my favorite was Tommy Lee. But as I got older I realized Mick was the only one in the group that was grounded and actually had a clue.
Mick was not an Eddie Van Halen, but if I were a bass player back then, in need of a great hard rock guitarist, I would damn sure want a Mick Mars on my team! Maybe more so than a Van Halen. Mick's sound was like a chain saw from outer space, cutting through everything. Nobody would have made those Crue songs as good as Mick Mars.
I agree -- his guitar was (and is) the backbone of their sound. It would be like taking Malcolm out of AC/DC. Some parts you just don't replace.
There is a reason why the majority of rock/metal bands in the 80's used the two guitar format and it's not what you think. Bottom line, 90% of the guitar players back then and I'm talking about name players in bands that got signed, they wouldn't be able to function in a band where they were the only guitar player. In a 4 piece, there is no place for an inferior player to hide, you have to be on your game. Was Mick the best at this? No. But he was and still is IMO a very underrated player. I always give props to players of this genre who played in a 4 piece because you truly had to have that 'gun-slinger' mentality in order to do it well. And Mick has that in spades.
you'd rather have mick than eddie? lol even mick would rather have eddie.
@@robertstan2349 I love Eddie, but not in every song do I want perpetual shredding. Mick was great at what he did. I would rather have 1973 Keith Richards for rhythm guitar personally, as I prefer subtle rock n roll, but Eddie was great and innovative RIP
@@robertstan2349 Mick is a better fit for MC....it isn't highly technical playing that gave the Crue it's balls, it's Mick. The riffs on some their older stuff are fucking amazing. I don't think most people enough give credit to guys that may not play like Eddie, but can write great riffs...AC/DC is the prime example, Angus gets all the credit, but it was their riffs that Malcolm wrote that made them special. Without Mal, AC/DC would never have gone anywhere...Angus would likely have made a name for himself somehow, but without Mal's riffs, there would be no AC/DC as we know and love them.
Mick has killer riffs, he is not a shredder. But his riffs compliment the songs perfectly. Bob was correct.
Which is good, because Crüe didn't write/produce/record "shredder" crap.
@@scottbrower9052 AMEN, brother
I'd argue that his playing on the first two albums is what brought Crue to the public eye in the first place. Without those riffs they would have just been another mediocre LA band
@@darkstar6909 his knowledge and his sound from those recordings. they way he gotten his sound.
Yeah he sure can shred hes very bluesy but yeah he shreds !!
Mick Mars is Motley Crue! I can't imagine watching anyone else playing, "Looks That Kill" or "Too Young To Fall in Love".
Exactly
Mick is a severely underrated, some crushing rhythms and solos .
Can you imagine the gall of having Vince Neil decide you're not good enough 😂
There is no greater thunder than the resonance of Mick Mars' sustained open "A" power chord. His live tone is like a .45 caliber bullet. A slow moving freight train. All business and pure power. A shreddy scale master he was not, but he had a gift like no one else did. He is legendary in his own right.
Mick was the sanity in the band at the time. Hard to believe, because his image was the meanest(coolest) out of the group. I personally think every black metal band on the planet owe lots of thanks to Mick. They all look like Mick, during Shout! His image is decades ahead of its time.
I never thought about that but I think you make a great point.
Absolute Truth
I think they copied KISS. I think people go over board with compliments, like they taught all guitarist blah blah blah...every metal band blah blah blah....
I personally think every black metal band on the planet owe lots of thanks to Mick.
HAHAHA Fucking hilarious.
@@deliverancefornow I agree. It was obvious. Vince the pouty Paul Stanley, Nikki the Gene guy, Mick with the Ace shoulder pad thing, and Tommy with his cheek whisker makeup.
Man, Mick was THE perfect fit.
Listen to those riffs & tone, on the SATD album.
Vince had that high delivery, and Mars was way down low.
It sounded so badass.
Plus, Mick just looked cool, with that sinister/introverted vibe.
It played well against the others: Four unique personalities that looked right
visually.
Well said, yes.
Producer Tom Werman (SATD, Theater Of Pain, Girls,Girls,Girls) states that Mick Mars is one of the most talented and best guitarist he as ever worked with, no problems in the recording studio with getting all his guitar parts down. He also said Mick and Tommy were the only two in the band, back in the early days, that were accomplished musicians. They would have never recovered from the ousting of Mick if it went down that way.
They would've been finished by the late 80s. Pretty sure Nikki has stated they got lucky with Girls when it was released without the title track and Wild Side the record would have flopped. Since Mick came up with the riffs to those songs they would be screwed without him.
Nice piece, but it fails to answer the question: Why were Crüe thinking of firing him in the first place?
My guess is they wanted another pretty boy so they could go 'thuper-glam."
Ageist.
Because they thought they could do better. They were still a new-ish band at that point. Remember, they were watching Jake E. Lee every night up there with Ozzy on that SATD/BAM tour.
It’s probably true. Jake E. Lee also stated that they wanted to fire Mick and hire himself.
They were chasing trends, meaning looking for a technical speed demon. Which would have been a big mistake. That's what set them apart from everybody else, they didn't have that.
Mick was a unique guitarist, he made very heavy riffs but were catchy enough for the mainstream to enjoy
He's probably the actual reason I was a Motley Crue fan..I had a major crush on Vince but in retrospect I'm music first and I've always leaved towards blues based rock over pop rock.. my teenage hormones didn't cloud nor budge my judgment.. Vince had nothing to do with my thrill of discovering and rediscovering album after album my love for their music!! It was Mick Mars blues in background !! ;)
Mick's sound/tone was perfect for Crue and irreplaceable!
That would have been a big mistake.
Mick is not a guitar hero....he's a fucking legend ❤️
Mick Mars has always been my favorite of Motley Crue since I was a teenager. Still is. Good guitarist and fit for the band.
What Bob said
That would’ve been the end of them, micks riffs are undeniable 👍🇦🇺🍻🍻🍻
Christ, if anything they should have had a discussion about booting Vince. Always sounds like he's singing out of his nose.
Thats because he was LOL
Vince Neil's nose: coke went in, his singing came out.
I actually remember reading an interview with Jake E. Lee in "Hit Parader" (I think that was the mag) circa 1985/86 where Jake mentioned they wanted to hire him as a second guitarist in the LA days when Allan Coffman was still Motley's manager. He said Mick vetoed the idea because he didn't want a 2nd guitarist, and threatened to bolt and take the Coffman money with him if they tried to bring Jake in. After Motley became successful with SATD, and began touring with Ozzy and Jake, they probably revisited the idea of bringing Jake in and simply firing Mick in the process. The reasons why they would consider that are obvious. Vince, Nikki, and Tommy were young hotshots experiencing success for the first time. They were pretty boys and glam was on the rise (notice the direction they took for their next album, Theatre of Pain). Also, it was the era of the zillion-notes-a-second guitarists like Eddie VH, Malmsteen, Vai, and others. Mick's style is more like the 60s/70s blues-rock/classic rock. The guys were probably thinking they could go further with another young pretty boy who could play like Eddie. But that wouldn't have worked. Then they would have sounded like any of the other dime-a-dozen hair bands from the era. Mick's style is perfect for their sound and gives them a sleazy blues-rock sound that made them unique for the time. Guns n' Roses came later with a similar "sleaze rock" sound with a bluesy style and look how big they got. Ratt and Dokken had technically more proficient guitarists than Motley and Guns but they never made it nearly as big.
Yeah, its funny because when Jake brought this up Sixx completely denied it which is why I thought it was true.
I thought I remembered reading that Mick's family had money and he had an expensive sound system they used for their concerts. If they fired Mick, they lost that system, so they kept him.
@@adamcady3324 Yeah, Allan Coffman, Motley's first manager, was Mick's brother-in-law. Coffman was a construction company owner who wanted to get into the band management business. It was Coffman's money that helped them get off the ground. Mick is a smart guy. He not only brought Motley their first manager but also suggested that Vince join the band as their singer, and came up with the Motley Crue name. Before that, the band was called Christmas and consisted of Nikki, Tommy, another guitarist, and a singer named O'din. Plus, Mick was around 10 years older than the other guys, and had much more experience in the business. Without Mick, I doubt Motley would have gone nearly as far as they did.
I absolutely love Jake E. Lee but he fit better in a Ratt type band than Motley; and that would have been a disaster. Mick Mars is Motley, the rest are just characters pretending to be bad@$$e$.
@@adamcady3324 I know Mick's family. They don't have money. His dad was an assistant pastor at a small church in Westminster, Ca. at the time. My dad was the head pastor.
Then when Mick came back on the bus they probably said, oh hi Mick, we were just talking about what a great guy you are and how much we love having you in the band, what would we ever do without you? Then Mick probably said I was just on Ozzy's bus and they were all talking about firing Daisley, haha.
His back still hurts from carrying the band around
The Dr. Feelgood album was Crue's defining moment. The songs all hinge on Mick's brilliant, and instantly memorable riffs. No Crue without him. Shredder lead guitarists only worked in Ozzy's band because Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake were writing all the great songs. Without Mick, the Crue would have folded.
Mick is the best musician in Crue..
The only musician
Tommy Lee a close second...;)
Mick is a top class blues player and I always remember him saying in a interview that he never practises riffs which he knows and always want to try new stuff. A sign of a good guitarist.
I can understand why they were thinking about it, considering they were surrounded by shredders at the time, but Mick Mars IS the sound of Motley Crue and keeping him is what helped turn them into a legendary band. BTW - I saw them with KISS in 2012 and Mars was by far the only member worth listening to, with Lee being a close second. Health issues and all, Mick flat out brought it!!! Vince was as horrible sounding then as he is now. As far a Nikki Sixx, I'm not accusing him of anything but I'll say this....I've been playing guitar for 3 decades and when I hear the bass change notes when neither of the bassist's hands are touching the bass, something smells fishy. I'm not talking about a delay pedal either. I'm talking about backing tracks from a dude that might be more focused on selling you tickets than playing music.
First. I agree with you about Mick Mars.
You mention backing tracks. I saw that same tour that you mentioned in 2012. I was suspicious right away because you can't get that big of a sound with a bass and a guitar. What sealed it for me was when they went into the song "Looks that kill". No guitarist can solo and play the Looks that kill riff at the same time. They used either a backing track or another guitarist backstage. Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with it and enjoyed both bands that night.
I was lucky to see Motley right around the time Shout at the Devil was released. They headlined at Music Hall in Cleveland with Saxon opening. I went just because Saxon was opening but was happy with Motley. No backing tracks for that show. I also saw Motley open for Ozzy. Jake E Lee stole that show. We walked outta there going "Who is this guy?".
The guitar work on the 1994 Mötley Crüe is unbelievably incredible. Simply the heaviest and best Crüe album that they ever made. So glad Mick could finally cut loose and dig out some killer riffage.
Mick has said it is his favorite album. Absolutely spine crushing.
Shout At The Devil
MICK IS the Motley Crue sound.
He wrote and played some of the most memorable Riffs ever
To fast for love
Merry go round
Red hot
Shout at the devil
To young to fall in love
Looks that kill
City boy blues
Home sweet home
Girls girls girls
Wild Side
Dr Dr feelgood
Hell, the list goes on and on
Without Mick, motley wouldve been another throw away band
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And THAT would have been the END of Motley Crue!!! Mick is the heart and soul of MC!!
I owned one Crue album back then. All songs were credited to Sixx/Mars.
Never fire your main songwriter. If you don't believe me, ask Blue Oyster Cult.
I can only guess that in 1984 they were considering a shredder. They were on tour with Lee and there were so many shredders around then; lynch, malmsteem , Gilbert, Lynch, etc.. Mars was a riff monster and always had solos that worked perfectly. It would have been a disaster to switch and was a good thing they listened to the advice.
I disagree with one point: Mick was not a part of the Crue's sound, Mick WAS the Crue's sound.
Awesome ❤❤❤
He is sooooo underrated as a guitarist
Mick is awesome, thank god they didn´t fire him. I love Mick.
I'm not a big fan of Motley Crue, but I always thought Mick Mars is a great guitarist. They were lucky to have him.
Mick, like Rick "The Thunder God" Allen [who's loss of an arm has seen RA refuse to be defeated by his condition - and still beams with that smile today behind the drums] has been through enormous pain for decades due to the degenerative spinal condition he has. He weaned himself off schedule 8 meds when Crue reformed for 'Carnival of Sins', he had a total hip replacement. Mick just consistently has been the mature voice in this band, not a attention seeker, aware of his limitations yet he's created some of the most innovative sounds and is massively under rated. Sixx would be the first to outline just how critical MM's has been for Crue. I'll never forget an interview when MM's said he always 'tweaks' key guitar parts in songs - still staying true to the original sounds - yet he is forever tweaking and improvising solo's. Why TF the band even thought for a millisecond of firing MM's defies credulity. It would've been irrational/insane.
Who elso would've written the "Home Sweet Home" solo ? Nobody !! That solo is a melodic masterpiece. Thank you Mick for being the reason I like Moley Crue.
Bobs analogy of John Bonham, Ginger Baker. It was probably one of the most spot on things I’ve heard in our industry in a long long time.
the cool sound on the songs of MÖTLEY CRÜE are the riffs.. Mick is the sound!
when you listen to motley crue what really stands out are the guitar riffs....mick never got the adulation he deserved.
He's the sole reason they are anywhere
Without Mick, MC would have sounded just like any other hair band.
Mick, Ace, Angus, none of them are shred Gods. Blues based hard rockers with great riffs and solos. No lessons just experience.
Listen to Mick play Jailhouse rock!!! Nuff said
If I could have saw one tour I missed this is the one! Does anyone know the set they played? Or know of video of it?
Not a Crue fan, but I recently discovered Mars and his riffs. Great stuff and I wish I had discovered him earlier.
One of my favorite guitarist
You can't rreplace Mick plus what they failed to mention is that he was one of the main songwriters in the band. They were most likely chasing trends and looking for a speed demon or shredder but that's what made Mick unique he wasn't that but he was perfect for their sound . I'm betting they're glad they didn't do that now in hindsight.
Nikki wrote all Crue songs except their best one..Primal Scream..that was written by Tommy.
The fact that Mick wasn't a super shredder is what made him stand out.
Besides that, how many of those guys are waiting to do a stadium tour?
I know Mick is. Niff Said!
Exactly. Super shredder bands didn’t stand the test of time. Bands that embraced melody did. Look at bands like Def Leppard ( also waiting for the stadium tour)
@@WatchingItBurn502 I remember back in the 80's when a group of us would be riding around jamming.
The guitar solo would come up and someone would turn the volume down and talk. Soon as it was over , back up it went. LOL!
I'm a player myself and I wasted so much time trying to learn those licks, when really I should have learned how to write songs.
He couldn't shred but he could play a melodic solo that fit the songs. Home sweet home for example. 👍
@@tonycolbourne7694 The solo in Primal scream is another one that kicks butt too.
The slide work. Who else would've thought to do that?
Canning Mick Mars from Motley would have been like canning Malcolm Young from AC/DC. Daisley was right -- ain't broke, don't fix it. Some parts are vital to a band's sound.
Mick is a riff Meister
He is the master of coming up with the most memorable song riffs in hard rock history
Mick lives in a mansion and is a millionaire
Most of those shredders in the 80s
Are scraping by financially
Mick rules and he is one hell of a nice guy to boot
Until very recently, Motley Crue was not doing all that well financially. None of them have the money and wealth you think they have. Just the other day they sold their entire catalog to BMG, so depending on the split, they are flying high again now. But not that long ago, Mick had to sell off his prized vintage guitar collection and "make other lifestyle adjustments". He did an interview last year where he talked about how he is slowly building his collection back up, but he said it would never be what it once was, because he said he didn't have the resources. But that was last year before the catalog sale!
@@papawx3 we should only hope in our lifetime we could have what they plundered away
My point was, most of these Shred guitar player's
Did not fare well financially at all
When Mick and the boys got to live in mansions and drive expensive sports cars
The crew won't be painting houses or doing some menial jobs for the rest of their lives
@@tides234 Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully, they have learned from past mistakes. Here is the thing: Yes, they got a huge windfall of cash for the catalog sale, but they have to split the money four ways. And, because they no longer own the rights to their music, they will no longer receive any royalties for their songs. Thats a big deal. Kind of like the lottery option: You can take a annual payout over many years, or a one time lump sum for about half of what you would get had you taken the money over time. Touring and endorsements is the only income stream they have now, and the older and sicker you become, the less touring you can do. They probably did the right thing by cashing out, they just need to be VERY CAREFUL now, because they have exhausted their last chance for a big payday.
@@papawx3 once again my point is they made far more money then a lot of the Bands in the 80s
And yes they plundered it
If they're careful with the money from the catalog they can be comfortable for the rest of their lives
I doubt they'll be careful
Aerosmith went from rags to riches to rags
We could only hope have one tense of what they ever squandered
@@papawx3 Maybe that's why they started planning for that tour in early 2020. Touring can make them some serious money.
For all their faults, they complemented each other which made the band successful. I really cant imagine another guitarist playing those Crue songs - Mick Mars gave them that edge and uniqueness of their sound.
If they had fired him, Motley Crue would have been no more. He writes ALL the music and comes up with all the licks. Mick is Motley Crue.
Hindsight, the band should have fired Vince in 84 and hired Corabi early on!
Some of those riffs Mick came up with are so fucking cool! Girls, Wild Side, Kickstrart & Too Young To Fall In Love to name a few. We can all agree he was no EVH & that's OK. He was an important part of the band & a big part of why I liked Motley Crue.
This is so disappointing. It makes absolutely no sense. Especially since Mick was certainly at that point the best musician in the band
He'll be the best musician in the band when he's buried six feet in the ground.
@@bertmustin watch for karma, it coming
Motley Crue will always Rock, but I think they have given us all they have in my opinion they just don't have it anymore but will always have a place in my heart for the music they have given us.
I know a roadie who worked for Motley Crue and he told me Mick Mars was one of the strangest human beings he ever met. Said he was extremely stand offish and seemed to be in his own little world. The other 3 were legendary party animals and then there was Mick off in the corner quite content staring off into space and not really aware of what was going on around him.
Perplexing when you think about it. Nikki always said that they would only play if they were all original, so wanting to fire mick and the short period where he replaced Vince, then later replacing Tommy, I think it was on their new tattoo album, I can't remember to be honest, but I digress, how he was not contradicting himself? Regardless, yeah, that would have been a smart move to replace mick, considering he gave motley crue their sound. For gosh sakes, the man is highly talented and criminally underrated. He deserves far more credit. Also, I can't help but admire the man immensely for the fact he's enduring his excruciating disease, yet, he is still able to play the guitar like the wizard that he is. He is remarkable.
He was actually the only real musician in the band when they started they looked great as wannabees but Mick shaped them as a band. I am grateful though that they dyed his hair black after his audition. 😂😂😂
Many commenters say it- Mick's riffs are gold. I hear him, his riffs and solos and think "This is HOLLYWOOOOOD", downtown LA
As a guitarist, I'm a fan of Mick. He is brilliant, the riffs, the tone. Not a fan of Motley Crue bar that album they got John Corabi to sing.
Crazy because he really makes that sound
I always liked Mars. I started learning guitar at 12-13, around the Girls³ era. No, he isn't technically brilliant player and never had been, but he is THE exemplar of that quality that some artists or performer have, that works for some unquantifiable reason. Whatever it is, it works in some "greater than the sum," manner.
In all the years of their existence, whatever form that may have taken throughout the decades; except for Nikki, Mick has been present during every stage. I think is he's just as integral to "Motley Crue," as Nikki, and the band was always Nikki's baby.
I never sat down to learn any Motley Crue songs on the guitar in and serious way; using song books or looking up tabs, etc. I was still able to figure out a few solos when the mood struck me years ago. I figured out "Home Sweet Home," solo, without having actually listened to the song in possibly decades, certainly more than 15. It's just one of those solos you can hum to yourself.
I remember an interview with Nikki in some documentary in the 80s. I think it was the "Uncensored" video they put out. It was between Theater of Pain (still my favorite, even though it's the most hated by the band: it's when I discovered them so many it's nostalgia) and Girls Girls Girls. He was talking about Mick and he said "Micks my favorite guitar player. Period." I've heard him say that same line for years afterwards, the last time on an "Inked" episode when he got Mick's portrait tattooed on his leg, that was easily 20 years after: so I'd say it's probably true.
But he said in that interview that Mick was just a great American rock guitarist, and how memorable his solos are. I'd have to say that he's 100% right. If I can remember a solo note for note, having not heard it in years, it's memorable.
I've heard this story about Mick almost being fired before this video, it's undoubtedly a true story. But seeing as you have Nikki saying the things about him just a couple years later (the video was from 1986 or 97), "something" clicked with Mick and the rest band. That, and the fact that the idea to fire him didn't end up happening, possibly on the advice of some dude that they didn't know all that well, says there wasn't a lot conviction behind the plan to fire him. If there were REAL reasons behind the idea to fire him, even if it didn't happen at that point it would have sooner or later.
Wonder if they thought about firing him because he wasn’t a pretty boy like them. To be honest he’s the most talented out of all of them and still is
That guitar solo on Looks That Kill - even on the official video - sent Crue to the top.
He was the only Adult in the band for many years. Sage advice.
Great video but it was never mentioned the real reason they wanted to replace Mick
Interesting story I’ve never heard before
They wouldn't have made it without Mick. He was the most musically talented and the most personally mature. They wouldn't have achieved the sound that established and they also would have burned out only a few years into their career.
What footage is that of the Crue? I want to see that.
Mick is the only reasons those songs ever saw the light of day.
It's just like in sports, on paper you can make a Dream Team but on the court it's all about chemistry and knowing your role on the the team/band. There's a reason why "Super Group's" never work.
I like his sound best of all the guitarists
Mick's punk-metal, crunchy sound is what made the Crue, IMO.
Remember at the time not only were shredders in but Shout was selling behind their old friends Ratt's Out of the Cellar. Given that Theater of Pain was less metal and more blues-rock driven, Nikki definitely had his eye on expanding the audience and was open to any and all options. But as most have pointed out, the classic albums that stood the test of time were the ones that got panned because there wasn't a shredder in the band. (see Feelgood, Hysteria, Appitite.)
Imagine Crue had fired Mars then having to find a replacement. I can almost see the rest of the band calling Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley for advice only for them to say: "Yup, we have a great guitarist for you. His name is Vinnie Vincent"
Remember the first time you heard Shout?... Intense intro... Guitar just ripped your head off..
👊
Mick wasnt a Steve Via but he created some great riff's and his leads were competent . Glad they kept him.
Where was that live footage from?
His riffs are godsend
Does anyone know why they were going to fire M . Mars ? Please and thank you !
Even back in 1984 I would’ve been mad as hell if they fired Mick Mars.
Mick is the sound of the band. No Mick, no Crue.
Mick IS the sound of Mötley Crüe.
To Nikki's credit he made the correct decision. Remember, this was the apex of noodling. Hammer on, scales at hyper speed. Eddie and Randy paving the way for a never ending stream of axemen who entered manhood only upon the mastering of Eruption. Mick was not that
Mick was and is a riffmaster. Few bands can match the catalog of the crue. Micks hooks are undeniable. He's the K. Richards of 80's glam/metal/pop/
Seen this so many times with club bands coming up in the 80's-90's. 95% of the time, the band crashes right after. Never break up a tribe if you're on the rise.
I can see that. In 84 you had all the shredders like EVH and Vai and everyone could play 1000 notes a second. And then you got Mick playing blues licks. And if they were still an opening act they probably figured that could catapult them to the next level. But he played some of the most killer, memorable riffs ever. I’m guessing they’re sure glad they opted to keep him
Okay, Mars is a fundamental part of Crue But treating EVH and Vai as "shredders" is not understanding too much of the subject.
@@marcelovidas5265 the only thing I’m not understanding is what you’re trying to say 😂
That would have been the end of Motley Crue. Mick Mars is an icon.
Mick IS Motley Crue!
Mick Mars was the safe member of the band. He did not like trouble. He often would say come on guys you are going to get in trouble. Father figure of sorts.
I would suspect the age difference was a big deal at the time, Mick is 10yrs older than Vince and Tommy, 7 years older than Nikki. Imagine playing in a band at age 21 with guys who are 18, 19....and 28. Not a good mix.