Hopefully you see this. A friend of mine had a 7.3 that did the same thing as yours at about 20k miles, no lights, just engine clatter. He took it to the dealer and they gave him the same run around as you. My friend ask to talk to the finance department about purchasing a ford extended warranty which they said they wouldn’t because of the engine noise. They went round and round for a few minutes before they finally tore his engine down and ended up replacing the whole engine. Good luck, I enjoy your videos.
I have a 2017 XLT 6.2L Super Duty I purchased brand new and immediately before the factory warranty expired, I purchased a Ford Extended Warranty because I didn't want to have that issue. Luckily I have not had to use the extended warranty with 77k miles on the clock and still have 40+k miles of life left on the warranty. Unlike the '07 F450 I had with the PowerStroke diesel which I got my money's worth on that extended warranty. Those were just shit motors International made for Ford.
Lifter failure used to be unheard of and now it’s common. The companies that make these lifters need to go back to the drawing board, but the auto manufacturers need to do a better job of making sure they have quality parts.
its what happens when parts are all made overseas, in countries with lesser standards. Of course, they get more maintenance money from the consumer this way as well, so they see it as a win/win. Used to be people in the USA paid a premium price for a premium product, now we pay it because it's always been that way and the parts standards are all below par.
It’s coming down to the hardening process. These new lifters are flaking apart or having chunks come off the hard surfacing then you slowly develop the tick. Common on every roller lifter nowadays. People may argue that back in the day this wasn’t happening but nowadays they are having trouble with flat tappet too. Quality control in every manufacturer of common speed parts is down. I’ve been hearing reports of casting flash in Holley carbs, flat tappets from comp out of round, bad parts brand new out of the box. At least your having 7.3 problems and not ohc v8 or eco boost. Any decent mechanic would have no problem replacing the valvetrain in a pushrod v8.
@@krisbeaver2901 had a HEMI, lifter came apart at 130k, $4,000 it was fixed then I sold it. Mine was a 2010 and Chrysler still has issues with them, not as bad but still. Big 3 need to rethink who they buy these from. Its ridiculous when it didn’t happened back when pushrod V8s were the main form of engine design.
Blow it up and deliver it to them at their cost on a flat bed ! Then say have fun boys! In all seriousness I feel for you! My 2021 is still purring like a kitten with 19K miles of towing trailers , plowing snow , idling in snow storms for days , & Home Depot runs hauling stuff. So far so good 😊. Fingers crossed 🤞
Way to go Ford. Great to see that your Ford dealerships service department is so thorough in diagnosing a major issue. Talk about a liability of sending you on your way and putting you and your family at harm when the engine blows while driving. Hire an attorney. negligence.
This is one reason why Ford has had so many recalls, no body listens. Assembly line workers spot something wrong, notify their supervisor and that’s as far as it goes because the supervisor knows better than go his boss about stopping the line to address the problem. They’d rather let the dealer catch it with his computerized techs.
I think part of the problem with the service at the dealer under warranty especially is labor. By that I mean warranty repairs only pay so much. Usually significantly less than customer pay. Also Ford will only cover a very small amount of diagnostic time especially if problem can't be duplicated. That is probably why dealer would rather have a catastrophic failure that is obvious. Just my opinion.
There is a known issue and it's more than 2%- Plating or temper on the camshafts that lead them to flake/ come apart by the layer destroying all with them.
That’s the biggest problem in the auto industry today. Between the schools most attend and all of the classes they basically are taught to diagnose a vehicle based on a scan tool. I’ve seen it to many times to count and they end up quitting once their feels get hurt by the guys who have been doing it for years. It a shame it seems like the ford is down, if you want a second opinion feel free to bring it by my shop we’ll get you taken care of.
You should load it and run it hard for another 1000 miles then take it in. I just saw on FB today someone was changing out cam and lifters on a 7.3 at 80,000 miles.
Hoping you can find a dealer that takes this seriously and can find the root issue and cause. The 7.3 is such a great alternative to diesel for a lot of people out there and we all want the data to make an informed decision whenever it’s time to drop big$$$. Good luck and keep us posted.
22k on my 2020 f250 with Godzilla. 5 oil changes, not a ton of towing but have maxed out the payload many times with gravel and compost. 480 engine hours, 44 idle hours. Love that truck, its so fast when you floor it
@@freedomisntfree_44 That’s on the active fuel management trucks 1500s the HDs don’t have AFM I have never seen or heard of a 6.0 or 6.6 GM engine having lifter failure stop being a ford fan girl and accept the failure.
They all suck honestly. I have my old 7.3 Powerstroke in my 1997. For daily tasks, we have two (new at the time) 2020, and 2021 4Runner. That’s about all I can do to have the most dependable vehicles.
Kind of like my sons 2021 Chevy Silverado with the 6.2 at 5700 miles a few valves decided to leave the motor. There were a lot of those engine on the 2021 doing that
@@ernestjohnson1807 I think it will be a good engine over time, but they miss the dumbest things. All that testing without assured parts. The material isn't good enough.
Dang that sucks! I hope of gets fixed. That sounds like some type of engine failure. I wouldn’t take my family around in that vehicle either. I would drive it until it breaks completely or throws a code, then I would take it in to service
My buddy’s 7.3 just had the lifter de lamination issue. My 22 lariat ultimate broke down with 4k miles and the part was not available so my brand new diesel sat on the lot for 3 months not drivable. My wife’s brand new expedition left us stranded with 20k miles due to a throttle body. Literally 100% of the fords that have come into my inner circle in the last 3 years have failed to the point of not drivable. The worst part is ford as a whole treats their loyal customer base like a bunch of battered wives. It’s time as consumers we show them that this lack of quality and support will not be tolerated with an all out total boycott imo
Love my 2019 F250 , 6.2 , 6 speed 80000 miles now, been pulling 9500 lbs trailer about 45000 miles, pretty much abuse truck all the time and not one problem yet
Dammit! I’ve so wanted a 7.3 tremor since the day Ford teased about the 7.3 and a possible competitor to the power wagon. Now I’m so on the fence. I own (2) 2002 F250’s, we’ll, wife and I each own our own f250. They have 330,000 & 350,000 miles with absolutely no issues other than they are both supercab 2WD models. The 2 kiddos are outgrowing the rear bench seat. I think I’m going to stick with another 2002 crew cab 4x4.
Bummer. Been following your channel with interest in the 7.3. My 2022 7.3 has a ticking/knocking noise when idling at temp, but I think it is the transmission and not the engine. Taking it to the dealer shortly.
I had a transmission go out in a 2021 Silverado 2500 at about 40,000 miles. I absolutely hate the hump next to the brake pedal in GM’s or I would be looking at them.
I've got 70 k Hard ass miles on my Ford guys never a issue this guy is a chebbie guy it's a part manufacture problem Shitterado is having the same warranty issues and the same part failures Godzilla is a bulletproof engine im testimony of it I live in Montana where we work our trucks hard Gm won't stand up to everyday heavy towing like Godzilla truck has done I'm plum happy with mine no matter what this guy says there well worth the money and the problem is very isolated
6.6 gas engine has certainly not had lifter issues. I’m sure there’s been failures in the now 4 model years they have been out but it wouldn’t even be a blip on the radar. Now the DFM 1500 V8s have definitely had lifter problems, especially the 2021 model year. But the L8T has no AFM/DFM. Oil consumption is the most common complaint that’s engine specific.
I am so grateful for your channel. I need a new heavy duty truck and I'm been looking at various 2535 100 trucks and you really help me narrow it down. I definitely gonna buy a chevy or gmc gas. It's kinda sad because I really like fords.
All manufactures are having issues. It’s like by 203” you will own nothing and be happy….where have I heard that before? Manufactures are putting out crap on purpose to lower/shorten new vehicle life spans so by the time you buy a new vehicle post 2030 there will be nothing for you to buy, but lease….only lease by Blackrock.
This lack of troubleshooting ability runs through every “profession” nowadays. Mechanics, doctors, veterinarians, you name it. Sad to see the lack of knowledge and brain power being wasted. Good luck with your truck, I haven’t had any issues with mine. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I’m a tech in a heavy duty diesel shop. The heavy duty techs are still very good like you stated. Unfortunately a lot of car shops like ford, Chevy, ram, etc, the techs just aren’t paid enough or as they go up in pay and education it becomes a stupid game of trying to get paid for your time. So a lot of guys just leave the industry. Lastly a lot of vehicles have become very electronic and don’t tend to have major mechanical issues and by the time they do the owner doesn’t want to pay ford prices so they go to independent shops. So in some ways it’s actually better to go to the independent shop to get a major mechanical issue diagnosed rather then the dealership.
We have a Ford Explorer and I still have noises that they said they do not know what it is and do nothing. We wanted a new truck and because of your videos I got a Chevy 2500 z71. I do not do much hauling, just wanted a truck.
That sucks! I have a 2021 7.3 Tremor with 18K and sending in oil to be evaluated at 20K, my first Ford and I just felt uneasy so I hung onto my 2001 Dodge Cummins with 160K just in case. Don't usually swap vehicles at 2 years but may consider it now that GM has a 10 speed behind a HD gasser.
I am one of those old mechanics and you are totally correct. 30 years ago, mechanics had to think, and know the system, they didn't get much help with technology. Today, they are parts re-placers. Technology tells them what to do and they do it, many times without trying to think about what is happening. It's sad. If that thing is under warranty, drain the oil out, save it in a bucket. Put 1 quart in it, start it and let it go until it seizes up. Then put your old oil back in and call ford. We have lost are way with trucks I think. Diesel and gas have a long list of concerns and issues. Sorry to hear about your trouble.
I'm a Chevy man but I still respect Ford. Damn shame about these Godzillas going down. And the response from that dealerahip all but guarantees that I would not do business with them ever again
My 7.3 had 2,000 miles on it. Driving home, sudden huge display of dash lights and loud "clanking" noise from the engine. Took to my dealer, said no compression in one cylinder. Replaced the engine. Thousand miles later, transmission failed. Since then, 20,000 miles of no issues.
Any update on the knocking sound on your 7.3? I do have a 2021 f250 7.3 gas, I did my oil changed this morning and I saw lots of metal shaving, No knocking sound yet. My 7.3 gas has 8,700 miles.
Unfortunately all the big 3 dealerships are aweful. Ive had all 3 and havenet had any luck with any of them. I cant get the G.M dealership to fix a bulletin issue on my 2500.
One of the mechanics on UA-cam was complaining about the 7.3 having a variable capacity oil pump. Apparently when it idles the oil pressure drops to the point where the oil does not reach the top of the push rod / cam lobe area. If this is true, the problems that you and many others are having can now be explained. Ford needs to take an interest in this !!
Sorry for your engine problems. Some mechanics claim this problem is more prone to engines with high idling hours. I was curious, how many idling hours vs. total hours your engine has?
I'll get those for you. Ford touted this ae the commercial alternative to the diesel, so it could be idled. I indeed, let it idle any and all times I'd idle any other engine, except a diesel as those can clog up the emissions. For warm ups or waiting somewhere. I wanted to put it to the test. I'll post the hours tomorrow.
I appreciate you not going back and deleting old videos. To be honest, I am a GM guy looking for an excuse to get the 7.3L Ford gas motor and I've watched almost all of your videos on it. At the beginning you were so positive so to hear this happened really dissuaded me on the Ford.
Nope.i.never delete content and I still like the godzilla and fords.....but I can't for safety sake have a failure while towing....but had ford fixed it or assured me.its good....I could still love the truck....but.....the chevy still did better as a tow vehicle with less. But there are hundreds of thousands of zillas out there...zero issues....it sounds crazy to say....but it's still a good option...as long as it doesn't have the engine issue....
Makes me feel un easy spending 60k on a 250 and have it fail in a few months when my old 4.6 f150 hasn’t given me an issue in the 15 years I’ve had it. Maybe I should look at the Chevy?
You guys talking about looking at chevys really need to watch some videos first. If you think Fords have problems, wait and see what hot garbage GM is pumping out these days.
2021... 55k Miles, ... cylinder #3... bad lifter , destroyed cam.... metal in oil.... made them buy it back.... got a 22 now... at 42k... so far no engine issues.... trans shift is a mess.... noise and clunks in rear end..... no quality in these anymore.... hope mine last .... good luck everyone, ... hit or miss on the 7.3
That sucks man I'm sorry. I've been a ford guy my whole life but these new trucks scare me with they're price and reliability issues. That's why i stick with my older trucks i can work on myself. My 2000 F250 v10 has been awesome with 220,000 miles on it and still going.
Is there another Ford dealership nearby? They all aren't as shitty as the one you went to. Some definitely care about their customers. Unfortunately these types of jerk dealerships are in every brand. It sucks this happened. I wanted to see more about the godzilla engine. But you have to do what you have to do! Thanks for the video and being as honest as possible.
I would see if I could find a dealership that has dealt with numerous camshaft issues on the 7.3. I watched a video put on by a Ford tech on youtube and he was pretty straightforward about the camshaft issues and replaced the engine and it sounded like he had replaced quite a few. Might be worth a few phone calls to find a service department that has some experienced techs that won’t give you the run a round
That's a bummer, I'm in the market for an HD gas engine and I thought I was ford all the way until gm introduced the 10 speed, people make a huge deal out of a tiny power difference 11 ft lbs of torque, I hope I don't get one that burns oil but it seems like a small issue compared to metal flakes in the oil 😬
That thing is eating a lifter. You're hearing it under the valve cover because of all the extra valve lash when the lifter is collapsed. If they don't address that immediately that engine will be toast and no time if it's not already. That's a lot of metal pumping through the entire oiling system on that engine. I know the filter catches it but it doesn't catch all of it
They all got issues just some more. A little preventive maintenance is key if applicable!!!! Lol I recently bought a 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 with a 5-3 and a 6-speed. I immediately bought the range technology AFM disabler flush the transmission and put in the shift technology cooler bypass. I have my fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞. It has 47,000 miles. Good luck with your Ford
That sucks man, any chance of the 6.8 minizilla or a new 2023 7.3 zilla going against big red? I know you aren't a fan but maybe even the 6.4 hemi? I'm in the market at end of the year and right now GM is in the lead
Same for me. No rush but looking to upgrade from a half ton to an HD and so far Chevy wins on standard features, reliability, and cost-to-amenities ratio.
@HalfShell I’m hearing people complain of failures on newer engines and at relatively lower mileage (under 100,000). Even some as early as 20-50,000 miles. I don’t know the nature of the failures or how the trucks were treated. Maybe these are just a case of the squeaky wheels, idk. I’ve had a lot of ram trucks (mostly diesels) & had good luck with them, but my next truck is going to be gas, just haven’t decided on the brand yet.
Just hit 25k miles on a 2022 ford 7.3 when the check engine light came on with a faint tick noise. Scan showed cylinder #3 misfire. Dealership is now putting a new engine in it from lifter/cam failure.
Sucks to see…engine is probably a total loss if there was that much metal in the oil. Side note, does the GM L8T use a variable displacement oil pump like the Godzilla? Or is it fixed?
It seems that is the Ford way of doing things these days. "Trade it in", "hopefully it'll go ahead and tear up so we'll know what it is", "it's hard to diagnose a noise", "we can't duplicate the noise", "don't bring it back cause we aren't making any money on your truck." . All this I've heard in the last 4 months or so (different issue than yours). If it throws no codes, it's good to roll seems to be their moto..
My Nephew's 2021 F350 took a dump at 41,000 miles, ruined entire motor, oil pump failure caused by debris from cam/lifter failure, This is his 3rd Ford truck he's owned since 2004, all 3 have failed. the 2004 F150 (new)was bought back by Ford after he sued them under lemon law, multiple dealers could not find/fix the issue. it would just randomly quit without warning, stranding him and his family multiple times, at times it would restart, other times it did nothing. He's switched to a Dodge Ram/Cummins, He's filed a lawsuit with Ford for his 2021 F350. Ford more or less told my nephew to go F himself because it wasn't serviced at a Ford dealership, he's had it serviced at an independent diesel performance shop since new with all maintenance records, he's used Motorcraft oil/filters since new changed every 5,000 miles
I would get a filter cutter and see how much is in the media bring a cut out of that to the dealer, but yes first thing is always deny an issue if it isn't glaringly obvious I have had a horrible experience with Ram but Ford had been good so far
I was seriously considering buying a F350 Lariat with the Godzilla to pull the camper and for business use. What a disappointment. I saw this video two weeks ago and have shifted to GM shopping. I watched it again today and feel sure I'm going to go GM.
I own the 6.6 l8t chevy, if you haven't seen those videos, please check them out. The chevy did outperform the zilla, and now with 2200 miles on it, fuel economy last hwy trip (empty not towing) returned even better fuel economy. The allison is better and if you go LT or better, you get that sweet new interior. However, for the channel, I purchased the custom trim which for this year has tons of great standard stuff and comes in about 4k less than a comparably equipped ford..
So I now see the Ford 7.3 gasser is definitely having numerous cases of engine failure. I've also heard the 6.6 GM gasser is having issues similar to Ford Not sure but I've also heard of the Ram 6.4 gasser having issues with early failure. Hopefully Cummins will have a quality engine when they roll out the 6.7 gasser for the 2024 model year in Ram 2500 and 3500 trucks
Well im truly sorry that happened. The scary part is that 2% seems on the low side of failure rate imo. Now I'm scared to try towing with my wifes 7.3. If I were you I'd go drop it off at the dealership and tell them to replace the engine. You shouldn't have to drive it tell it locks up. Document everything because they could try and say that because you change your own oil that they won't warranty it.
I guess do their 10k oil change intervals and wait until it drops. This is a bummer, the 7.3 would be the only motor I would buy, including all the light duty options out there.
When the godzilla 7.3 first came out there was a recall on the transmission. Needless to say ford bought my truck back. The dealership never unhooked the transmission plug and then used duct tape as a repair. Yea wth
20201 7.3 f53 rv 17665 miles just lost power at 55 mph went in to limp mode. 3 weeks in shop still do not know wats wrong with it just went out of warranty crap
Seen this on other UA-cam channels that the camshaft lifters delaminating. Man that sucks cause the 7.3 is a haus of a motor. From what I hear is ford knows about this and is replacing the engines
What's wrong they build the motors so fast .plus they don't dare stop the line... The big shots answer just run it . They'll catch at test . Because they test all the motor but what if they pass? Well you get this
First off, sorry this happened to your personal truck. I have commented on your videos before stating these 7.3's may be something to really consider, however, we need more time and data. 6k miles is very unfortunate. My uncle has the 2021 with 15k miles, but doesn't tow but a few times a year. He loves his truck, but again, I want to see 100k on these motors constantly. Thanks for the real world feedback.
Absolutely, i really appreciate that. I definitely wanted to work them both....because driving them would definitely extend the life......and I knew the risks and potential reward. If it was good. Knowing that if the engine failed I also could document what and how the dealer handled it. The first dealer did nothing, called another thatbi trusted and told them what happened and they said that without an engine light or not running,that they wouldn't do much. Maybe we'll swap it out with an l5p gen 2....
@@automotiveinquiries9673 I just purchase a 2023 L5P. I have posted a couple videos on my channel of it. Been a Cummins guy for many years. This is my first duramax. I almost tried the 7.3, came very close actually. Just wasn’t ready to pull the trigger for all reason already mentioned. Good videos sir.
Well after watching your videos and many others, I just ordered 2024 GMC 2500 gas. Never even tried trailering with the Gozilla after multiple videos and articles of the 7.3 failing. Though since I had a 22 model id be safe but that is not the case. Im very upset with Ford.
Congrats on that order. I'm glad that watching helped. I'm bummed for sure about the zilla failing, but, that's what my channel was about trying to help people with info. And I can't believe how much I enjoy the chevy and how it blew the zilla out of the water in control and ability. I've heard zero issues with the 6.6 failing, and the new interior is better than the ford. I've also had zero issues with oil usage and all that the chevy has done is pull and work. Look forward to hearing back when you get your new truck and how much you like it.
I totally agree. I'm allot like you. I've had all 3 brands so I'm not biased. My old hemi was the most reliable truck I ever had but it wasn't up-to pulling a 9k trailer. I appreciate all your videos! I ordered and waited on the Godzilla for 8 months. Then around camping season we go to use it for towing and I see all these videos. No thanks Ford. I'm not taking the chance. Thanks again
My 01 8.1 vortec still running strong with 500k on it never had a an issue with the engine. I also have a 2.0 EcoBoost fusion with minor problems. The Ford's are getting worse it seems like these days😂
I legit see a LOT of people having this issue. It's almost as common as the cracking manifolds on the 5.7 Hemi, but that usually takes 60-70k+ (sometimes over 100k) to happen, and isn't a particularly expensive or difficult fix. Whereas this is happening under 10k pretty commonly. Crazy.
Too bad I didn't live around the corner from you, I would have happily handed you my filter canister cutter to do the deed. I was wondering if you still have the filter in your possession as the next step in a filter examination is to cut out the filtering media with a sharp utility knife just under the end caps on both ends, then cut across in one spot so you can extend out the whole length of media to examine what is sitting down in the bottom of the pleats, that is where most of the crud/pieces will go. I was shocked that you are seeing and feeling that much material that never got caught in the filter which then I suspect never went through the oil pickup in the first place but instead landed in the oil pan and a portion of it came out as you dropped the oil. More than likely if the pan was off it would be coated on the bottom with a thin layer of metal fines and perhaps even a few slightly larger pieces. With the reaction of the dealership since no codes nor noise was detected for them to confirm anything ( and that is typical practice with any dealership no matter the brand I would say ) run it until it does show itself without a doubt and Ford will cover the tow if it needs to be towed and then they have proof of a failed engine or that is where I sense this is leading to. But like you said, don't knowingly put yourself into a bind by towing on some long trip from home as that would put you in a world of hurt ( and your wife will have choice words for you ... and you don't want that 😉 ) .
Given the early warnings (sounds, shavings) and the effort the customer (i.e. you) put into preemptively diagnosing a problem before an engine grenades, I'm disappointed that Ford did not put in their own effort to provide both a satisfactory customer solution AND investigate the problem in detail. Ford would have gained insight by studying the oil and shavings of an engine prior to its destruction, returning the engine to the factory, dismantling it, and performing an extensive forensic analysis. Instead, they elected to punt. That's a poor show.
Well this really sucks, sorry man. You even had in a previous video about this issue being isolated to a few trucks and now you get hit with it. I have a 7.3 Super duty on order but it has been “in production” for the last 3 weeks with no actual build date update and the Dealer says ford is having issue getting exhaust systems?? Who knows. The truck was ordered to replace my 2020 6,7 Powerstroke just because I really don’t need it but with only 10,000 miles on it I am thinking maybe I should just keep it another year or two until Ford figures this out. Thanks again for all the information it’s very helpful. Oh and F**k the gauntlet clowns.
😳Bummer! I’m sure generally the Godzilla is a great engine, but like you said something needs to be addressed quick with yours. (Lifter or valve issue?) There’s pros and cons I’ve heard to both the 6.6 and 7.3 gassers but I’ve had 3 of the GM 6.6 gassers (2022 gmc, 2022 chevy, and now 2024 chevy with the 10 speed Allison) and absolutely loved all 3 and had ZERO issues or burning oil- I especially like my new 2024 with the 10 speed, they tow amazing. I’ve had many diesels over the years and have put a lot of money into them, and really liked some of them, but would recommend the new heavy duty gassers over a diesel any day to someone towing in the 12ish k range and under. Over that yes … get yourself a diesel if you are towing a lot of weight regularly . I’ve noticed a lot of skeptics on the new heavy duty gassers are die hard diesel guys and have never driven or towed with the new 6.6 or 7.3 gassers. They “read or heard from a buddy” somewhere that one does this or that but forget about some of the big issues the new emissions heavy diesels are having and the trouble, difficulties, and expense of helping them breathe and run like they should. Thanks for the videos and sorry about your Ford it is a nice truck 👍🏽
Does anyone have any experience with 7.3 misfiring but no strange noises like this? I have one which the dealer has changed plugs, coils, and injectors trying to get rid of this misfire and no luck as of yet
Hopefully you see this. A friend of mine had a 7.3 that did the same thing as yours at about 20k miles, no lights, just engine clatter. He took it to the dealer and they gave him the same run around as you. My friend ask to talk to the finance department about purchasing a ford extended warranty which they said they wouldn’t because of the engine noise. They went round and round for a few minutes before they finally tore his engine down and ended up replacing the whole engine. Good luck, I enjoy your videos.
Appreciate that, I'll look into it.
I have a 2017 XLT 6.2L Super Duty I purchased brand new and immediately before the factory warranty expired, I purchased a Ford Extended Warranty because I didn't want to have that issue. Luckily I have not had to use the extended warranty with 77k miles on the clock and still have 40+k miles of life left on the warranty.
Unlike the '07 F450 I had with the PowerStroke diesel which I got my money's worth on that extended warranty. Those were just shit motors International made for Ford.
Take it to a different dealership. Your warranty is good at any Ford dealership. There are good service departments and there are bad ones.
Lifter failure used to be unheard of and now it’s common. The companies that make these lifters need to go back to the drawing board, but the auto manufacturers need to do a better job of making sure they have quality parts.
its what happens when parts are all made overseas, in countries with lesser standards. Of course, they get more maintenance money from the consumer this way as well, so they see it as a win/win. Used to be people in the USA paid a premium price for a premium product, now we pay it because it's always been that way and the parts standards are all below par.
It’s coming down to the hardening process. These new lifters are flaking apart or having chunks come off the hard surfacing then you slowly develop the tick. Common on every roller lifter nowadays. People may argue that back in the day this wasn’t happening but nowadays they are having trouble with flat tappet too. Quality control in every manufacturer of common speed parts is down. I’ve been hearing reports of casting flash in Holley carbs, flat tappets from comp out of round, bad parts brand new out of the box. At least your having 7.3 problems and not ohc v8 or eco boost. Any decent mechanic would have no problem replacing the valvetrain in a pushrod v8.
Ford buying cheap ass Chinese lifters.
This is literally less than 1% of the 7.3's.. how about you start barking about the hemi's?
@@krisbeaver2901 had a HEMI, lifter came apart at 130k, $4,000 it was fixed then I sold it. Mine was a 2010 and Chrysler still has issues with them, not as bad but still. Big 3 need to rethink who they buy these from. Its ridiculous when it didn’t happened back when pushrod V8s were the main form of engine design.
Blow it up and deliver it to them at their cost on a flat bed ! Then say have fun boys! In all seriousness I feel for you! My 2021 is still purring like a kitten with 19K miles of towing trailers , plowing snow , idling in snow storms for days , & Home Depot runs hauling stuff. So far so good 😊. Fingers crossed 🤞
My 21 has 40k on it and it’s very strong. Hopefully I didn’t jinx it
People have been driving around with “fingers crossed” in brand new ford pickups for the past 20 years😂😢
The F250 has failed. and FJB
Way to go Ford. Great to see that your Ford dealerships service department is so thorough in diagnosing a major issue. Talk about a liability of sending you on your way and putting you and your family at harm when the engine blows while driving. Hire an attorney. negligence.
Waste of money going to a lawyer. Ford says it’s ok, drive it till it really breaks then let them fix it.
This is one reason why Ford has had so many recalls, no body listens. Assembly line workers spot something wrong, notify their supervisor and that’s as far as it goes because the supervisor knows better than go his boss about stopping the line to address the problem. They’d rather let the dealer catch it with his computerized techs.
@@robertpulliam9973 you want to talk about the 6.2 engines in the Chevy trucks? Chevy has a ton of recalls so don’t act like it’s just Ford lol
Ford is well on it's way to not existing
@@thunderroad7289 Chevy has been unable to consistently manufacturer engines without leaking rear mains for upwards of 2 decades now
This dude is the click bait king
Kind of like the hemi tick lifter issue in the early 5.7 hemi. I would've thought ford would've learned from that, since everyone knew of it.
I have the 7.3 gas in my 2021 work truck , it has 37k on it already. There are no issues so far 🤞🏽
I think part of the problem with the service at the dealer under warranty especially is labor. By that I mean warranty repairs only pay so much. Usually significantly less than customer pay. Also Ford will only cover a very small amount of diagnostic time especially if problem can't be duplicated. That is probably why dealer would rather have a catastrophic failure that is obvious. Just my opinion.
There is a known issue and it's more than 2%- Plating or temper on the camshafts that lead them to flake/ come apart by the layer destroying all with them.
It is not a plated part, nor a heat treat issue. It is due to lack of oil pressure/supply because of the variable displacement oil pump.
@@5elevendesignz511 Engineered to fail.
That’s the biggest problem in the auto industry today. Between the schools most attend and all of the classes they basically are taught to diagnose a vehicle based on a scan tool. I’ve seen it to many times to count and they end up quitting once their feels get hurt by the guys who have been doing it for years.
It a shame it seems like the ford is down, if you want a second opinion feel free to bring it by my shop we’ll get you taken care of.
You should load it and run it hard for another 1000 miles then take it in. I just saw on FB today someone was changing out cam and lifters on a 7.3 at 80,000 miles.
Drive it like you stole it !
Thanks for honoring my brothers and sisters of the Armed Forces and especially those whose sacrifice should never be forgotten 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Hoping you can find a dealer that takes this seriously and can find the root issue and cause. The 7.3 is such a great alternative to diesel for a lot of people out there and we all want the data to make an informed decision whenever it’s time to drop big$$$. Good luck and keep us posted.
22k on my 2020 f250 with Godzilla. 5 oil changes, not a ton of towing but have maxed out the payload many times with gravel and compost. 480 engine hours, 44 idle hours. Love that truck, its so fast when you floor it
This is a much bigger issues than 2%. I have lost count of how many I have seen with this failure. Very sad
Prove it then. I can literally show you hundreds of gm trucks failed before the first oil change.
No it’s not prove it it’s only 2%
@@mikemccarthy6939 gm fanboy forgot who the king of lifter failure is I guess 🤭
@@freedomisntfree_44 That’s on the active fuel management trucks 1500s the HDs don’t have AFM I have never seen or heard of a 6.0 or 6.6 GM engine having lifter failure stop being a ford fan girl and accept the failure.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 my 6.0 lasted about 100k miles 🤡 they failed without the afm still 😂 lawsuit going right now
Shame on that dealership! Try another, maybe, as some have said already. Good luck, brother.
My 7.3, 3 months old, 4200 miles and gateway control module went… not engine issue but QC for sure… bummer on the General!
I have a 21 7.3 tremor 38k miles still going strong.The only thing broke is the warn winch.
Glad I ordered the Chevrolet. I was considering the Ford but glad I didn’t get it.
You’ll regret that too
@@ChaoticDave69 why?
They all suck honestly. I have my old 7.3 Powerstroke in my 1997. For daily tasks, we have two (new at the time) 2020, and 2021 4Runner. That’s about all I can do to have the most dependable vehicles.
Kind of like my sons 2021 Chevy Silverado with the 6.2 at 5700 miles a few valves decided to leave the motor. There were a lot of those engine on the 2021 doing that
Bad batch of lifters were responsible amongs other things. What date was it built?
I have tried so hard to keep faith in Ford, but man there is always something going wrong with them.
The 7.3 is starting to resemble the 5.4. They need to change there motto. Ford engines so good we redesign them every 3 years.
@@ernestjohnson1807 I think it will be a good engine over time, but they miss the dumbest things. All that testing without assured parts. The material isn't good enough.
Dang that sucks! I hope of gets fixed. That sounds like some type of engine failure. I wouldn’t take my family around in that vehicle either. I would drive it until it breaks completely or throws a code, then I would take it in to service
Thanks for sharing. Let’s see how ford takes care of you through the rest of this.
My buddy’s 7.3 just had the lifter de lamination issue. My 22 lariat ultimate broke down with 4k miles and the part was not available so my brand new diesel sat on the lot for 3 months not drivable. My wife’s brand new expedition left us stranded with 20k miles due to a throttle body. Literally 100% of the fords that have come into my inner circle in the last 3 years have failed to the point of not drivable. The worst part is ford as a whole treats their loyal customer base like a bunch of battered wives. It’s time as consumers we show them that this lack of quality and support will not be tolerated with an all out total boycott imo
Toyota time?
@@PonyFoot123 would definitely look at Toyota If I didn’t need a 3/4 ton. Maybe someday 🤷♂️
Love my 2019 F250 , 6.2 , 6 speed 80000 miles now, been pulling 9500 lbs trailer about 45000 miles, pretty much abuse truck all the time and not one problem yet
Dammit! I’ve so wanted a 7.3 tremor since the day Ford teased about the 7.3 and a possible competitor to the power wagon. Now I’m so on the fence. I own (2) 2002 F250’s, we’ll, wife and I each own our own f250. They have 330,000 & 350,000 miles with absolutely no issues other than they are both supercab 2WD models. The 2 kiddos are outgrowing the rear bench seat. I think I’m going to stick with another 2002 crew cab 4x4.
The 6.8 is also a Godxilla just like the 7.3.
Bummer. Been following your channel with interest in the 7.3. My 2022 7.3 has a ticking/knocking noise when idling at temp, but I think it is the transmission and not the engine. Taking it to the dealer shortly.
What did they say? Mine is doing the same thing.
Sorry to hear about your Ford. No oil burning from my 6.6 gas either.
I had a transmission go out in a 2021 Silverado 2500 at about 40,000 miles. I absolutely hate the hump next to the brake pedal in GM’s or I would be looking at them.
Had 6.4 liter hemi thought it was gonna shit the bed, valve train clap like a bulldozer. Changed the oil went away
I've got 70 k Hard ass miles on my Ford guys never a issue this guy is a chebbie guy it's a part manufacture problem Shitterado is having the same warranty issues and the same part failures Godzilla is a bulletproof engine im testimony of it I live in Montana where we work our trucks hard Gm won't stand up to everyday heavy towing like Godzilla truck has done I'm plum happy with mine no matter what this guy says there well worth the money and the problem is very isolated
6.6 gas engine has certainly not had lifter issues. I’m sure there’s been failures in the now 4 model years they have been out but it wouldn’t even be a blip on the radar.
Now the DFM 1500 V8s have definitely had lifter problems, especially the 2021 model year. But the L8T has no AFM/DFM. Oil consumption is the most common complaint that’s engine specific.
Ford's suck better than there owners,Chevy is king COPE
I am so grateful for your channel. I need a new heavy duty truck and I'm been looking at various 2535 100 trucks and you really help me narrow it down. I definitely gonna buy a chevy or gmc gas. It's kinda sad because I really like fords.
You can still get a Ford, just avoid the 7.3L Godzilla engine.
@Duncan McMaster true but I think I'll give Chevy a go .
All manufactures are having issues. It’s like by 203” you will own nothing and be happy….where have I heard that before? Manufactures are putting out crap on purpose to lower/shorten new vehicle life spans so by the time you buy a new vehicle post 2030 there will be nothing for you to buy, but lease….only lease by Blackrock.
This lack of troubleshooting ability runs through every “profession” nowadays. Mechanics, doctors, veterinarians, you name it. Sad to see the lack of knowledge and brain power being wasted. Good luck with your truck, I haven’t had any issues with mine. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I’m a tech in a heavy duty diesel shop. The heavy duty techs are still very good like you stated. Unfortunately a lot of car shops like ford, Chevy, ram, etc, the techs just aren’t paid enough or as they go up in pay and education it becomes a stupid game of trying to get paid for your time. So a lot of guys just leave the industry. Lastly a lot of vehicles have become very electronic and don’t tend to have major mechanical issues and by the time they do the owner doesn’t want to pay ford prices so they go to independent shops. So in some ways it’s actually better to go to the independent shop to get a major mechanical issue diagnosed rather then the dealership.
34k miles on a 2022 on my 7.3 and the lifter failed, I kept up with all the oil changes and changed it early.
We have a Ford Explorer and I still have noises that they said they do not know what it is and do nothing. We wanted a new truck and because of your videos I got a Chevy 2500 z71. I do not do much hauling, just wanted a truck.
That sucks! I have a 2021 7.3 Tremor with 18K and sending in oil to be evaluated at 20K, my first Ford and I just felt uneasy so I hung onto my 2001 Dodge Cummins with 160K just in case. Don't usually swap vehicles at 2 years but may consider it now that GM has a 10 speed behind a HD gasser.
Thinking GM gas engines aren't the worst thing going right now is hilarious, 😂🤣🤣😂
I am one of those old mechanics and you are totally correct. 30 years ago, mechanics had to think, and know the system, they didn't get much help with technology. Today, they are parts re-placers. Technology tells them what to do and they do it, many times without trying to think about what is happening. It's sad. If that thing is under warranty, drain the oil out, save it in a bucket. Put 1 quart in it, start it and let it go until it seizes up. Then put your old oil back in and call ford. We have lost are way with trucks I think. Diesel and gas have a long list of concerns and issues. Sorry to hear about your trouble.
I'm a Chevy man but I still respect Ford. Damn shame about these Godzillas going down. And the response from that dealerahip all but guarantees that I would not do business with them ever again
7.3 the new 5.4 mod.
Basically new engine still having problems....jury still out. Glad I chose the old 6.2 ....no issues
@@derricksmoothy4392I did the same when I got a 21 , went with the old 6.2 and 6 speed. In two years I'm only at 8k so time will tell.
Just imagine the issues had he bought a 6.2 powered 2500 Chevrolet or GMC....
@@02autogt just imagine an actual GM 2500 with a 6.2 🤦♂️
My 7.3 had 2,000 miles on it. Driving home, sudden huge display of dash lights and loud "clanking" noise from the engine. Took to my dealer, said no compression in one cylinder. Replaced the engine. Thousand miles later, transmission failed. Since then, 20,000 miles of no issues.
Any update on the knocking sound on your 7.3? I do have a 2021 f250 7.3 gas, I did my oil changed this morning and I saw lots of metal shaving, No knocking sound yet. My 7.3 gas has 8,700 miles.
Bring it in! Use a magnet to check if it is steel or aluminum
Unfortunately all the big 3 dealerships are aweful. Ive had all 3 and havenet had any luck with any of them. I cant get the G.M dealership to fix a bulletin issue on my 2500.
One of the mechanics on UA-cam was complaining about the 7.3 having a variable capacity oil pump. Apparently when it idles the oil pressure drops to the point where the oil does not reach the top of the push rod / cam lobe area. If this is true, the problems that you and many others are having can now be explained. Ford needs to take an interest in this !!
Sorry for your engine problems. Some mechanics claim this problem is more prone to engines with high idling hours. I was curious, how many idling hours vs. total hours your engine has?
I'll get those for you. Ford touted this ae the commercial alternative to the diesel, so it could be idled. I indeed, let it idle any and all times I'd idle any other engine, except a diesel as those can clog up the emissions. For warm ups or waiting somewhere. I wanted to put it to the test. I'll post the hours tomorrow.
I appreciate you not going back and deleting old videos. To be honest, I am a GM guy looking for an excuse to get the 7.3L Ford gas motor and I've watched almost all of your videos on it. At the beginning you were so positive so to hear this happened really dissuaded me on the Ford.
Nope.i.never delete content and I still like the godzilla and fords.....but I can't for safety sake have a failure while towing....but had ford fixed it or assured me.its good....I could still love the truck....but.....the chevy still did better as a tow vehicle with less.
But there are hundreds of thousands of zillas out there...zero issues....it sounds crazy to say....but it's still a good option...as long as it doesn't have the engine issue....
Lol....I only replaced bulbs where bulbs were already. No reflectors replaced....I surely won't mind though.
Bro, memorial day is for those who gave their lives in service of our country. Veterans day is for all who served!
I’m Canadian and know this, and I’m surprised by how many Americans do not know this.
Makes me feel un easy spending 60k on a 250 and have it fail in a few months when my old 4.6 f150 hasn’t given me an issue in the 15 years I’ve had it. Maybe I should look at the Chevy?
I am. 10 speed trans runs to hot for me on the Ford
You guys talking about looking at chevys really need to watch some videos first. If you think Fords have problems, wait and see what hot garbage GM is pumping out these days.
I’ve already decided to get the f250 with the 7.3, did some research and it’s just a better truck, cost a little more but worth it to me.
2021... 55k Miles, ... cylinder #3... bad lifter , destroyed cam.... metal in oil.... made them buy it back.... got a 22 now... at 42k... so far no engine issues.... trans shift is a mess.... noise and clunks in rear end..... no quality in these anymore.... hope mine last .... good luck everyone, ... hit or miss on the 7.3
That sucks man I'm sorry. I've been a ford guy my whole life but these new trucks scare me with they're price and reliability issues. That's why i stick with my older trucks i can work on myself. My 2000 F250 v10 has been awesome with 220,000 miles on it and still going.
Luckily my brothers hasn't failed. It's just a gutless dog and an expensive parking lot decoration.
Is there another Ford dealership nearby? They all aren't as shitty as the one you went to. Some definitely care about their customers. Unfortunately these types of jerk dealerships are in every brand. It sucks this happened. I wanted to see more about the godzilla engine. But you have to do what you have to do! Thanks for the video and being as honest as possible.
Well, hopefully, you took this into the dealership and showed them! I would be curious to hear what the service manager would say.
I would see if I could find a dealership that has dealt with numerous camshaft issues on the 7.3. I watched a video put on by a Ford tech on youtube and he was pretty straightforward about the camshaft issues and replaced the engine and it sounded like he had replaced quite a few. Might be worth a few phone calls to find a service department that has some experienced techs that won’t give you the run a round
That's a bummer, I'm in the market for an HD gas engine and I thought I was ford all the way until gm introduced the 10 speed, people make a huge deal out of a tiny power difference 11 ft lbs of torque, I hope I don't get one that burns oil but it seems like a small issue compared to metal flakes in the oil 😬
That thing is eating a lifter. You're hearing it under the valve cover because of all the extra valve lash when the lifter is collapsed. If they don't address that immediately that engine will be toast and no time if it's not already. That's a lot of metal pumping through the entire oiling system on that engine. I know the filter catches it but it doesn't catch all of it
They all got issues just some more. A little preventive maintenance is key if applicable!!!! Lol I recently bought a 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 with a 5-3 and a 6-speed. I immediately bought the range technology AFM disabler flush the transmission and put in the shift technology cooler bypass. I have my fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞. It has 47,000 miles. Good luck with your Ford
That sucks man, any chance of the 6.8 minizilla or a new 2023 7.3 zilla going against big red? I know you aren't a fan but maybe even the 6.4 hemi? I'm in the market at end of the year and right now GM is in the lead
Same for me. No rush but looking to upgrade from a half ton to an HD and so far Chevy wins on standard features, reliability, and cost-to-amenities ratio.
@@SliderFury1 💯
Hemi doesn’t have a good record for cam/lifter life really.
@HalfShell I’m hearing people complain of failures on newer engines and at relatively lower mileage (under 100,000). Even some as early as 20-50,000 miles. I don’t know the nature of the failures or how the trucks were treated. Maybe these are just a case of the squeaky wheels, idk. I’ve had a lot of ram trucks (mostly diesels) & had good luck with them, but my next truck is going to be gas, just haven’t decided on the brand yet.
Just hit 25k miles on a 2022 ford 7.3 when the check engine light came on with a faint tick noise. Scan showed cylinder #3 misfire. Dealership is now putting a new engine in it from lifter/cam failure.
Sorry to hear that. I hope they extend the warranty in the new engine.
Sucks to see…engine is probably a total loss if there was that much metal in the oil.
Side note, does the GM L8T use a variable displacement oil pump like the Godzilla? Or is it fixed?
I don't think it is oil delivery problem but a bad set of lifter and cam material.
It seems that is the Ford way of doing things these days. "Trade it in", "hopefully it'll go ahead and tear up so we'll know what it is", "it's hard to diagnose a noise", "we can't duplicate the noise", "don't bring it back cause we aren't making any money on your truck." . All this I've heard in the last 4 months or so (different issue than yours). If it throws no codes, it's good to roll seems to be their moto..
Unfortunately, quality has gone downhill from all manufacturers. I am holding onto my gen 3 Cummins.
You can go to any Ford dealership for warranty issues, keep going to dealerships until you find one that accepts it.
I am a Ford tech in Preston Idaho, If you are not to far away I would love to take care of your truck. Thanks Jeff
Ours blew at 2900 miles. We have since blown 2 more and it’s getting engine number 4 at 51,000 miles
I was hoping for the 7.3 when my employer bought me a new f250 but I got a 6.2. Not super powerful but it is reliable so far. 41,000 miles
My Nephew's 2021 F350 took a dump at 41,000 miles, ruined entire motor, oil pump failure caused by debris from cam/lifter failure, This is his 3rd Ford truck he's owned since 2004, all 3 have failed. the 2004 F150 (new)was bought back by Ford after he sued them under lemon law, multiple dealers could not find/fix the issue. it would just randomly quit without warning, stranding him and his family multiple times, at times it would restart, other times it did nothing. He's switched to a Dodge Ram/Cummins, He's filed a lawsuit with Ford for his 2021 F350. Ford more or less told my nephew to go F himself because it wasn't serviced at a Ford dealership, he's had it serviced at an independent diesel performance shop since new with all maintenance records, he's used Motorcraft oil/filters since new changed every 5,000 miles
Sorry to hear that, I hope the Ram is working out better. With that many issues I could see why he'd not want a ford again.
I would get a filter cutter and see how much is in the media bring a cut out of that to the dealer, but yes first thing is always deny an issue if it isn't glaringly obvious I have had a horrible experience with Ram but Ford had been good so far
I was seriously considering buying a F350 Lariat with the Godzilla to pull the camper and for business use. What a disappointment. I saw this video two weeks ago and have shifted to GM shopping. I watched it again today and feel sure I'm going to go GM.
I own the 6.6 l8t chevy, if you haven't seen those videos, please check them out. The chevy did outperform the zilla, and now with 2200 miles on it, fuel economy last hwy trip (empty not towing) returned even better fuel economy. The allison is better and if you go LT or better, you get that sweet new interior. However, for the channel, I purchased the custom trim which for this year has tons of great standard stuff and comes in about 4k less than a comparably equipped ford..
I'm sure the dealer will tell you those metal shavings are from the engine just breaking in! 😅
So I now see the Ford 7.3 gasser is definitely having numerous cases of engine failure.
I've also heard the 6.6 GM gasser is having issues similar to Ford
Not sure but I've also heard of the Ram 6.4 gasser having issues with early failure.
Hopefully Cummins will have a quality engine when they roll out the 6.7 gasser for the 2024 model year in Ram 2500 and 3500 trucks
Document everything and send oil samples to lab every oilchange until resolved.
Wishing you the best! So sad!
Well im truly sorry that happened. The scary part is that 2% seems on the low side of failure rate imo. Now I'm scared to try towing with my wifes 7.3. If I were you I'd go drop it off at the dealership and tell them to replace the engine. You shouldn't have to drive it tell it locks up. Document everything because they could try and say that because you change your own oil that they won't warranty it.
Absolutely 💯
I guess do their 10k oil change intervals and wait until it drops. This is a bummer, the 7.3 would be the only motor I would buy, including all the light duty options out there.
When the godzilla 7.3 first came out there was a recall on the transmission. Needless to say ford bought my truck back. The dealership never unhooked the transmission plug and then used duct tape as a repair. Yea wth
20201 7.3 f53 rv 17665 miles just lost power at 55 mph went in to limp mode. 3 weeks in shop still do not know wats wrong with it just went out of warranty crap
That’s the difference between a mechanic and a Tech
Seen this on other UA-cam channels that the camshaft lifters delaminating. Man that sucks cause the 7.3 is a haus of a motor. From what I hear is ford knows about this and is replacing the engines
What's wrong they build the motors so fast .plus they don't dare stop the line... The big shots answer just run it . They'll catch at test . Because they test all the motor but what if they pass? Well you get this
First off, sorry this happened to your personal truck. I have commented on your videos before stating these 7.3's may be something to really consider, however, we need more time and data. 6k miles is very unfortunate. My uncle has the 2021 with 15k miles, but doesn't tow but a few times a year. He loves his truck, but again, I want to see 100k on these motors constantly. Thanks for the real world feedback.
Absolutely, i really appreciate that. I definitely wanted to work them both....because driving them would definitely extend the life......and I knew the risks and potential reward. If it was good. Knowing that if the engine failed I also could document what and how the dealer handled it. The first dealer did nothing, called another thatbi trusted and told them what happened and they said that without an engine light or not running,that they wouldn't do much. Maybe we'll swap it out with an l5p gen 2....
@@automotiveinquiries9673 I just purchase a 2023 L5P. I have posted a couple videos on my channel of it. Been a Cummins guy for many years. This is my first duramax. I almost tried the 7.3, came very close actually. Just wasn’t ready to pull the trigger for all reason already mentioned. Good videos sir.
at 92,000 miles my 2021 7.3 f250 got the chater new lifters new cam
Get over it it’s under warranty do you think every one breaks
Well after watching your videos and many others, I just ordered 2024 GMC 2500 gas. Never even tried trailering with the Gozilla after multiple videos and articles of the 7.3 failing. Though since I had a 22 model id be safe but that is not the case. Im very upset with Ford.
Congrats on that order. I'm glad that watching helped. I'm bummed for sure about the zilla failing, but, that's what my channel was about trying to help people with info. And I can't believe how much I enjoy the chevy and how it blew the zilla out of the water in control and ability. I've heard zero issues with the 6.6 failing, and the new interior is better than the ford. I've also had zero issues with oil usage and all that the chevy has done is pull and work. Look forward to hearing back when you get your new truck and how much you like it.
I totally agree. I'm allot like you. I've had all 3 brands so I'm not biased. My old hemi was the most reliable truck I ever had but it wasn't up-to pulling a 9k trailer. I appreciate all your videos! I ordered and waited on the Godzilla for 8 months. Then around camping season we go to use it for towing and I see all these videos. No thanks Ford. I'm not taking the chance. Thanks again
My 01 8.1 vortec still running strong with 500k on it never had a an issue with the engine. I also have a 2.0 EcoBoost fusion with minor problems. The Ford's are getting worse it seems like these days😂
My 2020. 7.3 Godzilla has been great I have 45,000 miles on it
That sounds like a lifter.
I legit see a LOT of people having this issue. It's almost as common as the cracking manifolds on the 5.7 Hemi, but that usually takes 60-70k+ (sometimes over 100k) to happen, and isn't a particularly expensive or difficult fix. Whereas this is happening under 10k pretty commonly. Crazy.
Too bad I didn't live around the corner from you, I would have happily handed you my filter canister cutter to do the deed. I was wondering if you still have the filter in your possession as the next step in a filter examination is to cut out the filtering media with a sharp utility knife just under the end caps on both ends, then cut across in one spot so you can extend out the whole length of media to examine what is sitting down in the bottom of the pleats, that is where most of the crud/pieces will go. I was shocked that you are seeing and feeling that much material that never got caught in the filter which then I suspect never went through the oil pickup in the first place but instead landed in the oil pan and a portion of it came out as you dropped the oil. More than likely if the pan was off it would be coated on the bottom with a thin layer of metal fines and perhaps even a few slightly larger pieces. With the reaction of the dealership since no codes nor noise was detected for them to confirm anything ( and that is typical practice with any dealership no matter the brand I would say ) run it until it does show itself without a doubt and Ford will cover the tow if it needs to be towed and then they have proof of a failed engine or that is where I sense this is leading to. But like you said, don't knowingly put yourself into a bind by towing on some long trip from home as that would put you in a world of hurt ( and your wife will have choice words for you ... and you don't want that 😉 ) .
Given the early warnings (sounds, shavings) and the effort the customer (i.e. you) put into preemptively diagnosing a problem before an engine grenades, I'm disappointed that Ford did not put in their own effort to provide both a satisfactory customer solution AND investigate the problem in detail.
Ford would have gained insight by studying the oil and shavings of an engine prior to its destruction, returning the engine to the factory, dismantling it, and performing an extensive forensic analysis. Instead, they elected to punt. That's a poor show.
Well this really sucks, sorry man. You even had in a previous video about this issue being isolated to a few trucks and now you get hit with it. I have a 7.3 Super duty on order but it has been “in production” for the last 3 weeks with no actual build date update and the Dealer says ford is having issue getting exhaust systems?? Who knows. The truck was ordered to replace my 2020 6,7 Powerstroke just because I really don’t need it but with only 10,000 miles on it I am thinking maybe I should just keep it another year or two until Ford figures this out. Thanks again for all the information it’s very helpful. Oh and F**k the gauntlet clowns.
😳Bummer! I’m sure generally the Godzilla is a great engine, but like you said something needs to be addressed quick with yours. (Lifter or valve issue?) There’s pros and cons I’ve heard to both the 6.6 and 7.3 gassers but I’ve had 3 of the GM 6.6 gassers (2022 gmc, 2022 chevy, and now 2024 chevy with the 10 speed Allison) and absolutely loved all 3 and had ZERO issues or burning oil- I especially like my new 2024 with the 10 speed, they tow amazing. I’ve had many diesels over the years and have put a lot of money into them, and really liked some of them, but would recommend the new heavy duty gassers over a diesel any day to someone towing in the 12ish k range and under. Over that yes … get yourself a diesel if you are towing a lot of weight regularly . I’ve noticed a lot of skeptics on the new heavy duty gassers are die hard diesel guys and have never driven or towed with the new 6.6 or 7.3 gassers. They “read or heard from a buddy” somewhere that one does this or that but forget about some of the big issues the new emissions heavy diesels are having and the trouble, difficulties, and expense of helping them breathe and run like they should. Thanks for the videos and sorry about your Ford it is a nice truck 👍🏽
Hey, I bought the 24 HD2500 6.6 gas as well with 10 speed Allison , so far love it a lot !
Its sad when ford can't make a simple push rod engine. It doesn't help they're using weak metallurgy techniques to produce major components.
Collapsed liter buddy. Wiped the cam
$70,000.০০ plus for a new truck, and have to go through this shit. I miss my 86 F350 crew cab DRW.
Should have sent a sample of the oil into Blackstone.
The oil pump is driven by jack shaft turned by a chain from crank snout then the ECM control's a solinoid valve to allow oil to flow and how much. 🤦
Cam shaft lifters failure
They sell um expensive, save on quality control by letting buyers take that roll. They keep selling, why would they stop?
Does anyone have any experience with 7.3 misfiring but no strange noises like this?
I have one which the dealer has changed plugs, coils, and injectors trying to get rid of this misfire and no luck as of yet
There is an issue with the plug wire harness that some have needed changed out. This was allegedly on the 20 and 21 that people were having the issue.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 I've heard of that. I might mention it next time they call me to make sure they've ruled that out. Thanks for the reply!
@@dander0091 absolutely.