Great video. More proof that the best bang for your buck barrel length is the 12.5. I recently ordered a 12.5 inch geissele "pistol" build because the velocity gains from 10.5-12.5 are significant and if I ever run out of 75 grain sabre blade black tips then shooting 55 grain out of a 12.5 will make it that much more lethal while still being a short compact rifle.
Thank you! Yes I have come to the same conclusion, 12.5 is about the ideal length for balance, ease of handling, and preventing too much velocity loss.
@@TNRay because its shorter? 14.5" feels much different than a 16". 12.5" is that weird middle ground, its not really a rifle, and not small enough to really have the benefits of say a 10.5". a 14.5" is a rifle, with a rifle stock, but its just alittle bit handier than a 16".
@mtnbound2764 are you talking about a pinned and welded 14.5? Because the difference is basically negligible there. Technically speaking, they’re all carbines. But saying a gun isn’t a rifle because it has a short barrel is like saying a red dot isn’t an optic because it doesn’t have magnification…anyways. Having put hundreds of thousands of rounds through both 14.5” and 16” guns, they’re not that different. Especially not different enough to justify the loss of velocity.
That’s where you’re wrong bud. I added hand loads because it’s another data point. I guarantee my hand loads are more consistently loaded than anything out of a factory. They have the exact same amount of powder, down to the tenth of a grain. They are sized, prepped, and seated to the same specifications. This is a comparison of barrel lengths to velocity numbers in the ar platform. How does having another data/comparison point not tell you anything?
Great video. More proof that the best bang for your buck barrel length is the 12.5. I recently ordered a 12.5 inch geissele "pistol" build because the velocity gains from 10.5-12.5 are significant and if I ever run out of 75 grain sabre blade black tips then shooting 55 grain out of a 12.5 will make it that much more lethal while still being a short compact rifle.
Thank you!
Yes I have come to the same conclusion, 12.5 is about the ideal length for balance, ease of handling, and preventing too much velocity loss.
Thanks for the video and hard data! I always like having empirical evidence rather than hearsay. Happy New Year my friend! 👍🏻
Appreciate you watching, as always! Happy New Year!!
I'm so glad you left that in there for the end!
Lol of course I did 🤣
12.5 master race
Yup! Huge fan of my 12.5
14.5"
If you’ve got a 14.5, why not just have a 16
@@TNRay because its shorter? 14.5" feels much different than a 16". 12.5" is that weird middle ground, its not really a rifle, and not small enough to really have the benefits of say a 10.5". a 14.5" is a rifle, with a rifle stock, but its just alittle bit handier than a 16".
@mtnbound2764 are you talking about a pinned and welded 14.5? Because the difference is basically negligible there.
Technically speaking, they’re all carbines. But saying a gun isn’t a rifle because it has a short barrel is like saying a red dot isn’t an optic because it doesn’t have magnification…anyways.
Having put hundreds of thousands of rounds through both 14.5” and 16” guns, they’re not that different. Especially not different enough to justify the loss of velocity.
What no 20 inch? What about the Boomers?😂
Sorry 🤣 wanted to do 18” and 20” but we didn’t have them at the range that day
Didn't have the camera lens to fit them in the video.
Boy if you don’t 🤣
Why hand loads… that’s doesn’t tell “us” shit
That’s where you’re wrong bud.
I added hand loads because it’s another data point. I guarantee my hand loads are more consistently loaded than anything out of a factory. They have the exact same amount of powder, down to the tenth of a grain. They are sized, prepped, and seated to the same specifications.
This is a comparison of barrel lengths to velocity numbers in the ar platform. How does having another data/comparison point not tell you anything?