Yeah, I think this video gives more justice to the Aurora Pro than others, but i'm not sure if it worth the additional 200$. Sometimes the "not contrasted" image of the Aurora gives better low light image than the Pro, but the Pro with sufficient light can beat up really hard the definition of the original. Nice to the the improvements, I think the next iteration of the product will bring the real change since the first one.
850nm can be too powerful for this camera. 940nm would be recommended. The CI7 light is actually a 940nm light. They are virtually identical in quality under that light.
In 2 years, something else will be about to come out... And the year after. And the year after. And the year after... Just get it, sell it and buy newer , sell it, buy newer, wash rinse, repeat
Appreciate your videos and comparisons. I have the original Aurora and am considering picking up the Pro. I have 2 questions for you; Through the viewfinder in darker conditions do you see a difference berween the 1st gen Aurora and the Pro? Also, the 1st gen Aurora has a some Lag when looking through the viewfinder; Do you still notice the ‘Lag/Delay’ in the Pro? Thanks Much, Happy Easter and stay safe. “Trust in our Lord Jesus”
I was told that updating firmware in other Auroras than PRO will make it much more closer to PRO. Can you try to do that? Edit: I see this video is 1 year old but still if you could update it with new firmware then it would be great! Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison video, I’m getting a Pro soon and just trying to pick the best illuminator for it so that I can use it while I do Astrophotography in case things tussle in the nearby bushes (is it a coyote or a rabbit?)
That's interesting..!! I am looking at getting either standard or pro for star videography and catching other things up there. You are not finding anything that competes with the Aurora by performance to price ratio?
@@CristinaG Price Comparable... no. I have my Z6 which can do it at MAX ISO in video form (ua-cam.com/video/4Jl3GjZtrU4/v-deo.html) but it's $3000. Gen 2 are similar prices but not as nice, Gen 3 are expensive and often restricted. The Auroras are not restricted so that's nice. I plan to add a wide lens on the front (~x0.43 I think) which should almost double the performance (by increasing the light gathering ability).
IQ is considerably improved, you could always bump the exposure compensation up on the Pro if you want it brighter. I think one of the big reasons to get the Pro is they're promising firmware updates to the units (for free) which are going to add AR features. They didn't specifically say aiming reticle (a man can hope) as I suspect that could create ITAR issues, but they mention maritime and sports uses. You also get a nice hard case with the Pro; that said I'm comparing an Aurora Black Vs Pro.
Filming as in video? You should get a Sony A7S and a good lens. The Aurora can do it but there will be a lot of noise and grain in the video. It won’t be clean.
Hi Bull, so I do Astrophotography and if you are looking to take photos of the night sky the quickest method is a regular camera on a tripod. From there you take a series of photos and stack them using a program called Deep Sky Stacker. To avoid blurry stars, set the shutter speed to 400 / (Focal Length * Sensor Crop) = Exposure Seconds So for 50mm on a APS-C Sensor you’d get 400/(50*1.5) = 5.33 seconds (so round down 5 second exposures). It’s gets more complicated from there but that’s a start. Let me know if you have additional questions.
Being that you don't pull the trigger without properly identifying your target, that little bit of difference matters. I don't really see a difference in latency between them through but perhaps that doesn't really show in this video. Especially because it is a difference of a few milliseconds.
hope it was a camera issue otherwise will regret preorder of the pro rather than the discount I missed out on now, just dont see that much compared to the discounted promo they ran to justify that much more.not to mention if one gets out to review with issues what will larger preorder problems be.....
Picked up a high spec PVS-14 from Steele Industries. Going back and forth between the Aurora Black and Pro to record night shoots. Amy reason to go with the Pro over the Black? They look similar. Better recording features maybe?
Marginal image quality you probably won’t notice unless you modify it with a better lens. Just get a sport. It is still recoil rated the same as the black.
Hi there. I have the Pro, and am now shopping around for the recommended 940nm flashlight/illuminator; first of all, was that the wavelength of the IR flashlight you were using in the video? If so, what was the mW power of the LED? Again, if it was a 940nm illuminator, what brand & model was it? I am leaning towards a Nightcore C17 but it is 7500mW and there are 10k mW illuminators out there for less, wondering if you could give me your opinion if it would just be a waste of time as it would flood out all the detail, as you mentioned in your video. Any advice & information would be well appreciated. Thanks !!
You won’t see latency difference because you don’t have a frame of reference. The lag is noticed between what your eye sees and what the Aurora shows. Since these videos only show what the Aurora captures you won’t see the lag. Here is how I was able to show Aurora Lag. instagram.com/p/BqzmZ_mnuxb/?
No. Its the same. You can’t see lag in these videos because you can’t see outside the camera. What you think is less lag is one side out of sync with the other because I didn’t hit record at the same time and didn’t edit one video to sync up exactly with the other.
Useful comparison. Use focus peaking - the reason you cannot get sharp focus is you are not using peaking - you will see it really can get sharp. Wind noise! Really? Get a proper mic with wind muff.
For such an expensive camera, why on earth did SiOnyx produce a camera that only records in 720p video!!? No one uses 720p anymore, the quality is poor.
For night vision “digital” cameras the pixels need to be bigger in order to sense light faster than more pixels. So basically when light is recorded to the program the camera does not need to process harder to detect light. They mentioned that this camera is not for professional filmmaking or photo shoots, I use this for my helmet mounts and piccatiny rail gun for night shoots also for night cameras for better pixels you’re looking at close to 2,000 to 8,000 dollars compared to 800 and 1000
Did you not watch the video? I did use grayscale. The point of this video is to show the Aurora cameras in their entirety. Why only show one side of the camera? It’s biased. Here is an unbiased comparison.
I bought the pro. Regret the crap out of it. Terrible night vision cameras. Their connectivity is garbage and the image is grainy as it can be for a device of 1000$ plus
The Pro image is a bit darker, but looks ALOT sharper with better contrast - in all the scenes.
Joe McCrackin less contrast will give the illusion of slightly more brightness
More than the image quality itself, I'm happy to see the reduction in lag in the image in those first seconds.
Thank you for putting this up! Been trying to find a comparison video to help me make a decision. This has been really helpful!
There is a significant difference IMO compared to each other, maybe not compared to dedicated NVG systems, but the enhanced IR color is amazing.
Can't tell if it was your synching, but the Pro has less latency, which is a big deal in night vision, on top of sharper images and depth of color.
I'm watching this cross-eyed. It's all in 3D. Loooool
Thanks for comparing these!
Yeah, I think this video gives more justice to the Aurora Pro than others, but i'm not sure if it worth the additional 200$. Sometimes the "not contrasted" image of the Aurora gives better low light image than the Pro, but the Pro with sufficient light can beat up really hard the definition of the original.
Nice to the the improvements, I think the next iteration of the product will bring the real change since the first one.
You mean additional $400. They jacked up the price of both the Aurora Sport and Aurora $200 around the time of the Pro pre-orders.
@@BlueDustProductions ohhh you are right, didn't see the new prices
The vid, everyone in that Arfcom thread has been waiting for! Including, us banned lurkers 😄
850nm can be too powerful for this camera. 940nm would be recommended.
The CI7 light is actually a 940nm light. They are virtually identical in quality under that light.
i came in here when looking for the aurora TR3B ;)
Is there less lag on the pro, or is it just me?
No just you bud
Seemly less than 2/3 !
Nice 😎😎
@@The-LongRoad-Home still, can we drive with it?
Злой Канадец Да, конечно, ты можешь сначала привыкнуть к этому, мой друг
At the pace digital nv is moving, I'm going to wait a year or two. It should be gtg then.
it will be on your iphone by then lol
In 2 years, something else will be about to come out... And the year after. And the year after. And the year after... Just get it, sell it and buy newer , sell it, buy newer, wash rinse, repeat
Appreciate your videos and comparisons.
I have the original Aurora and am considering picking up the Pro. I have 2 questions for you; Through the viewfinder in darker conditions do you see a difference berween the 1st gen Aurora and the Pro?
Also, the 1st gen Aurora has a some Lag when looking through the viewfinder; Do you still notice the ‘Lag/Delay’ in the Pro?
Thanks Much, Happy Easter and stay safe.
“Trust in our Lord Jesus”
I am also interested in knowing if the pro has any lag/delay and how it compares to the original. Thanks.
Also interested ^
So do I
Answer...,
so,what im seeing is that the pro has a slightly better picture when at 15fps 360p,definitly not worth that extra money
I was told that updating firmware in other Auroras than PRO will make it much more closer to PRO. Can you try to do that?
Edit: I see this video is 1 year old but still if you could update it with new firmware then it would be great! Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison video, I’m getting a Pro soon and just trying to pick the best illuminator for it so that I can use it while I do Astrophotography in case things tussle in the nearby bushes (is it a coyote or a rabbit?)
That's interesting..!! I am looking at getting either standard or pro for star videography and catching other things up there. You are not finding anything that competes with the Aurora by performance to price ratio?
@@CristinaG Price Comparable... no.
I have my Z6 which can do it at MAX ISO in video form (ua-cam.com/video/4Jl3GjZtrU4/v-deo.html) but it's $3000.
Gen 2 are similar prices but not as nice, Gen 3 are expensive and often restricted. The Auroras are not restricted so that's nice.
I plan to add a wide lens on the front (~x0.43 I think) which should almost double the performance (by increasing the light gathering ability).
I would love to see some more footage.
What about lag???
Have you tried attaching the unit to a birding scope or telescope for higher magnification?
IQ is considerably improved, you could always bump the exposure compensation up on the Pro if you want it brighter. I think one of the big reasons to get the Pro is they're promising firmware updates to the units (for free) which are going to add AR features. They didn't specifically say aiming reticle (a man can hope) as I suspect that could create ITAR issues, but they mention maritime and sports uses. You also get a nice hard case with the Pro; that said I'm comparing an Aurora Black Vs Pro.
well one could idk plug the device in and make your own firmware and get a reticle and bypass itar :P
You're definitely a professional I'd like to ask you a question I'm looking at filming the stars and the galaxies what you suggest
Filming as in video? You should get a Sony A7S and a good lens. The Aurora can do it but there will be a lot of noise and grain in the video. It won’t be clean.
Hi Bull, so I do Astrophotography and if you are looking to take photos of the night sky the quickest method is a regular camera on a tripod.
From there you take a series of photos and stack them using a program called Deep Sky Stacker.
To avoid blurry stars, set the shutter speed to 400 / (Focal Length * Sensor Crop) = Exposure Seconds
So for 50mm on a APS-C Sensor you’d get 400/(50*1.5) = 5.33 seconds (so round down 5 second exposures).
It’s gets more complicated from there but that’s a start. Let me know if you have additional questions.
@@EmberSkyMedia Great info ! Subbing 2 u.
Being that you don't pull the trigger without properly identifying your target, that little bit of difference matters.
I don't really see a difference in latency between them through but perhaps that doesn't really show in this video. Especially because it is a difference of a few milliseconds.
Thanks!
hope it was a camera issue otherwise will regret preorder of the pro rather than the discount I missed out on now, just dont see that much compared to the discounted promo they ran to justify that much more.not to mention if one gets out to review with issues what will larger preorder problems be.....
I need to know if the Auroras have threads on inside of lens so I can attach it to the back of my telescope to view faint galaxies up close.
Please buy a wind filter for your mic lol
Maybe I missed it....but what kind of flashlight are tou using? It is white light or IR?
IR. If it was a normal LED light it wouldnt be purple.
I was today years old that I learned flood lights “flood” an area with a wide beam of light and do not just come on during a flood.
Lmao my thoughts exactly lol
That I learned was spoken at days old 😂
Why 320P? Why NOT 720P like it's designed to do?
Because lower pixel size makes the night vision better. Some science shit I can explain
The Pro looks likes it has an Ultraviolet filter on it
Picked up a high spec PVS-14 from Steele Industries. Going back and forth between the Aurora Black and Pro to record night shoots. Amy reason to go with the Pro over the Black? They look similar. Better recording features maybe?
Marginal image quality you probably won’t notice unless you modify it with a better lens.
Just get a sport. It is still recoil rated the same as the black.
@Solscud Just noticed the Pro has a 256gb capacity vs 32gb on the Black and Sport. May be worth the jump.
@@jakemerica I hardly use my pro and it only has a 32gb stick in it. But ymmv. I also have a used Black if you are interested.
@@Solscud007 Appreciate it. Already snagged a Pro and a 256gb stick for it.
@@Solscud007 I'm interested in the used black
How’s the lag? Is it any better in the pro?
The pro has less lag
Hi there. I have the Pro, and am now shopping around for the recommended 940nm flashlight/illuminator; first of all, was that the wavelength of the IR flashlight you were using in the video?
If so, what was the mW power of the LED?
Again, if it was a 940nm illuminator, what brand & model was it?
I am leaning towards a Nightcore C17 but it is 7500mW and there are 10k mW illuminators out there for less, wondering if you could give me your opinion if it would just be a waste of time as it would flood out all the detail, as you mentioned in your video.
Any advice & information would be well appreciated. Thanks !!
I will say this I could use either or for night moving Night navigation 🧭 I mean it can identify what I would need
Dosent seem like it was very dark out side when you made this video
That's kinda the point of night vision
nice, thanks man!
LATENCY?
Is there a noticeable difference in latency between them at all?
You won’t see latency difference because you don’t have a frame of reference. The lag is noticed between what your eye sees and what the Aurora shows. Since these videos only show what the Aurora captures you won’t see the lag. Here is how I was able to show Aurora Lag.
instagram.com/p/BqzmZ_mnuxb/?
With 3/4 moon you are able to see without naked eyes.
Looks like the lag on the pro is way less.
No. Its the same. You can’t see lag in these videos because you can’t see outside the camera. What you think is less lag is one side out of sync with the other because I didn’t hit record at the same time and didn’t edit one video to sync up exactly with the other.
@@Solscud007 ahhh, that makes sense.
The shorter latency alone is an upgrade
Is the lag still noticeable and therefore not a pvs14 replacement or no I'm just wondering
Yes there is still lag and no it isn’t a replacement for a PVS14. But it can record and see color.
Useful comparison. Use focus peaking - the reason you cannot get sharp focus is you are not using peaking - you will see it really can get sharp. Wind noise! Really? Get a proper mic with wind muff.
markr041 I did use focus peaking. The lenses just aren’t that good. Or maybe it’s the low resolution.
which camera is better for the night
Sony A7S
Can this be helmet mounted for night driving?
yes
For such an expensive camera, why on earth did SiOnyx produce a camera that only records in 720p video!!? No one uses 720p anymore, the quality is poor.
For night vision “digital” cameras the pixels need to be bigger in order to sense light faster than more pixels. So basically when light is recorded to the program the camera does not need to process harder to detect light. They mentioned that this camera is not for professional filmmaking or photo shoots, I use this for my helmet mounts and piccatiny rail gun for night shoots also for night cameras for better pixels you’re looking at close to 2,000 to 8,000 dollars compared to 800 and 1000
Whoever lives in that house is going to be wondering WTF going on ?
I'll stick with my original Aurora...
Does it have Thermals as well?
No.
Dark current is lower ...
Pro looks even worse. Better detail, but dimmer.
looks like pro processes faster
Not 4k ?
No. They never were. Always 720 max.
@@Solscud007 wow 500 - 900 dollars...
Use grayscale for Christ sake, 10 times better image
Did you not watch the video? I did use grayscale. The point of this video is to show the Aurora cameras in their entirety. Why only show one side of the camera? It’s biased. Here is an unbiased comparison.
@@Solscud007 sorry you are right
I bought the pro. Regret the crap out of it. Terrible night vision cameras. Their connectivity is garbage and the image is grainy as it can be for a device of 1000$ plus