Thanks for the review Mike! Nailed it. 3-part blended fill made the walk a fine line between control and reaction, liner, template, everything You threw an 11.11ppr in the video!
I agree on the liner, B3 bags feel better than most....love the engineering going on here with them. You continue to hone your craft Mike, you put so much useful information in that 8-9 minute template. Reviews, in general, can be filled with so much "filler" content, I appreciate your efficiency!
Hey, Mike. What active ACO bag have you found to be most similar to the Fatal? Been enjoying my set lately but worried I won't be able to get a replacement set in the future.
I changed from Fallout X to B3 about two months back and have never thrown this well so consistently. The Rangers are hole friendly and forgiving on the boards.
Coyotes and Fatals soaking in a vinegar bath now. Looking forward to throwing them both tomorrow! Thanks for another great review...i think I've watched this 3 times now😂
@@davidwestwood2457 Both bags are very forgiving. The Fatals are probably more so as they are a floppier bag. They are very drippy. But, a little too floppy for my taste. I prefer the fuller feel of the coyote and my throwing partner and I have won several leagues and competitions with them. That said, for the last month or so we have been throwing the B3 Primes and really enjoy them. Basically the Coyotes but with a little more control on the fast side.
@@KCHomeFinderawesome, thanks! Surprising to hear that the Fatals are floppier, but good to know. I'll look into those Primes. I'm curious to try a B3 bag, and have been looking into the Rangers, Coyotes, and Fatals, but can't figure out which way to go. So the Prime has the most control? More Mike's Bags videos for me 😂 does the Prime kick hard?
Great review as always! I know you said you are able to shape shots with these bags, so does that mean they kick a good amount? I don't think you said it explicitly that this bag kicks a lot. I don't throw the flatest bag, but these look pretty interesting otherwise. I know they're not the same bag, but I'm also looking at the Ultra Freak as a good bag for blocking. And I'm also looking at the Marylin because of you!! haha
Any bag with herringbone material is going to kick on you. These bags have enough flop that the kick isn't awful but if you don't throw flat, you will get some kick. The Freak are going to kick worse. That slow side of the Freak is slower and will grab more which will cause it to kick.
@@MikesBags Thanks for the reply Mike, I appreciate it. I'm looking for a slower bag for blocking, and I was thinking about the Decimator 2 which seems to have the same slow side as the Freak. What would be your first choice for a dirty game bag that's relatively forgiving? (No stamp requirements). I'm looking to round out the collection: Butter-Fly's, Costellos, Marilyn's, [insert dirty game bag here]. The Marilyn's are awesome!!
These Fatals are more forgiving than the Decimator 2. I would prefer the Fatal because I think the herringbone material is a little more versatile. If you want a true dirty bag then the Decimator 2 is hard to beat. Based on the bags that you have, the Decimator 2 is going to give you something different. They are as forgiving as you will get for a bag that slow.
I’ve been throwing fallout x… after conditioning them with toss sauce nuked, the carpet side is definitely more like a high 4/low 5… that’s even without breaking them completely in.
Another one in the hole 🕳️. You are correct, he did mention that the template has changed. Interested to know if it feels the same as a terminator. But seeing how floppy it is, I’m assuming is not as full as the terminator. Thanks for another great review. B3 does make some good bags and design.
These sounds like one I’d really love to try out. Always liked the sound of having a performance liner. I’ll have to pull the trigger on either these or the coyote at some point soon
Thanks Mike! I've been waiting for this review. I was trying to decide between this or the Coyote. Looks like the Fatal will be my next bag. I already have Wintertides which I think are very similar to the Coyote. The Fatal will be unique in my inventory.
Nice, always enjoy your review’s. I have a set of coyote’s and thoroughly enjoy the way they play. The performance liner makes a difference. Also have kaboom’s for a slightly slower option. 👌🏻
Great job love the coyotes and best of all the rangers love the fill the fullness not as floppy as coyotes , would you say these are like the ranger feel or floppier thanks keep up the great work.
The Fatal’s seem floppier to me than Rangers. It’s a thicker bag that feels a little heavier and much slower on slow side. Coyotes are closer in speed and play.
I think I like the fatal better than the coyote. Kind of surprised me. I think the coyotes fit my style of throwing better. I love the feel of the fatal bags and I think that made me thrown better. Funny how this is a mental game.
Thanks for the review Mike!
Nailed it. 3-part blended fill made the walk a fine line between control and reaction, liner, template, everything
You threw an 11.11ppr in the video!
Coastal creature or b3 fatal? I have wizard l and love them and want to add another similar type bag and that liner seems interesting
Both are great bags. I like the Fatals a little better than the Creatures.
@@MikesBags thanks mike for the reply. Love your content
I agree on the liner, B3 bags feel better than most....love the engineering going on here with them. You continue to hone your craft Mike, you put so much useful information in that 8-9 minute template. Reviews, in general, can be filled with so much "filler" content, I appreciate your efficiency!
He’s the 🐐
@@daryldixon3685 I agree!
Have you had a chance to throw the Bowie's by big d? Curious how these compare
Hard to beat B3 bags! Love my Rangers!
Have been throwing a set for the past month and love them. Sure wish they had the ACL stamp
That may happen next year. The ACL stamp is expensive and that's what keeps a lot of bag makers from getting it.
B3 is like a high end car, they just have a premium feel in your hand. Feel like they are well made.
Hey, Mike. What active ACO bag have you found to be most similar to the Fatal? Been enjoying my set lately but worried I won't be able to get a replacement set in the future.
B3 is the way to go, the wife and I both have the Fatals and they are great. Gonna order some custom Coyotes shortly.
I changed from Fallout X to B3 about two months back and have never thrown this well so consistently. The Rangers are hole friendly and forgiving on the boards.
Coyotes and Fatals soaking in a vinegar bath now. Looking forward to throwing them both tomorrow! Thanks for another great review...i think I've watched this 3 times now😂
🤣 Those are two great bags.
How did you end up liking those bags? Which did you like better? Do the Fatals kick if you don't throw a flat bag? Any response is appreciated, haha
@@davidwestwood2457 Both bags are very forgiving. The Fatals are probably more so as they are a floppier bag. They are very drippy. But, a little too floppy for my taste. I prefer the fuller feel of the coyote and my throwing partner and I have won several leagues and competitions with them. That said, for the last month or so we have been throwing the B3 Primes and really enjoy them. Basically the Coyotes but with a little more control on the fast side.
@@KCHomeFinderawesome, thanks! Surprising to hear that the Fatals are floppier, but good to know. I'll look into those Primes. I'm curious to try a B3 bag, and have been looking into the Rangers, Coyotes, and Fatals, but can't figure out which way to go. So the Prime has the most control? More Mike's Bags videos for me 😂 does the Prime kick hard?
Great review as always! I know you said you are able to shape shots with these bags, so does that mean they kick a good amount? I don't think you said it explicitly that this bag kicks a lot. I don't throw the flatest bag, but these look pretty interesting otherwise. I know they're not the same bag, but I'm also looking at the Ultra Freak as a good bag for blocking. And I'm also looking at the Marylin because of you!! haha
Any bag with herringbone material is going to kick on you. These bags have enough flop that the kick isn't awful but if you don't throw flat, you will get some kick. The Freak are going to kick worse. That slow side of the Freak is slower and will grab more which will cause it to kick.
@@MikesBags Thanks for the reply Mike, I appreciate it. I'm looking for a slower bag for blocking, and I was thinking about the Decimator 2 which seems to have the same slow side as the Freak. What would be your first choice for a dirty game bag that's relatively forgiving? (No stamp requirements). I'm looking to round out the collection: Butter-Fly's, Costellos, Marilyn's, [insert dirty game bag here].
The Marilyn's are awesome!!
These Fatals are more forgiving than the Decimator 2. I would prefer the Fatal because I think the herringbone material is a little more versatile. If you want a true dirty bag then the Decimator 2 is hard to beat. Based on the bags that you have, the Decimator 2 is going to give you something different. They are as forgiving as you will get for a bag that slow.
@@MikesBagsthanks Mike, I appreciate the advice!
I’ve been throwing fallout x… after conditioning them with toss sauce nuked, the carpet side is definitely more like a high 4/low 5… that’s even without breaking them completely in.
What break in method did you use for these Fatal’s?
Vinegar soak. Same process as I showed in my vinegar break in video.
Another one in the hole 🕳️. You are correct, he did mention that the template has changed. Interested to know if it feels the same as a terminator. But seeing how floppy it is, I’m assuming is not as full as the terminator. Thanks for another great review. B3 does make some good bags and design.
I just used the link in the description and the Fatal bag doesn’t appear to be on their website
These sounds like one I’d really love to try out. Always liked the sound of having a performance liner. I’ll have to pull the trigger on either these or the coyote at some point soon
Hey Mike. I finished watching the review to the end. The link is incorrect. Definitely going to check these bags out. Thanks
Thanks for the heads up. Link has been corrected.
Thanks Mike! I've been waiting for this review. I was trying to decide between this or the Coyote. Looks like the Fatal will be my next bag. I already have Wintertides which I think are very similar to the Coyote. The Fatal will be unique in my inventory.
Are their any carpet bags out their that have a performance liner in them that r Acl stamped?
Think Swag bag Chaos has it. Maybe Ninja Poison as well.
I only buy B3 these days
B3 has a great line up of bags. I have quite a few of their bags that I keep in my backpack.
Nice, always enjoy your review’s. I have a set of coyote’s and thoroughly enjoy the way they play. The performance liner makes a difference. Also have kaboom’s for a slightly slower option. 👌🏻
I’d really like to try some B3 cornhole bags.
Great review. How do these compare to the Viper R?
Coyotes are more Viper R. The Fatals are more Sorcerer, Fallout X ish...
Great job love the coyotes and best of all the rangers love the fill the fullness not as floppy as coyotes , would you say these are like the ranger feel or floppier thanks keep up the great work.
The Fatal’s seem floppier to me than Rangers. It’s a thicker bag that feels a little heavier and much slower on slow side. Coyotes are closer in speed and play.
Wish b3 current line up was in TCL some of their older bags are but I need them to add their newer bags 😂
I think I like the fatal better than the coyote. Kind of surprised me. I think the coyotes fit my style of throwing better. I love the feel of the fatal bags and I think that made me thrown better. Funny how this is a mental game.