@@isekaijohntitorreality-tit2457 all the more reason to ditch this world and move to the stars lol when humanity finally advances the term "end of the world" will be a relic of the past.
AR like in Ordinal Scale needs the technology of Full Dive VR, because it directly effects your vision inside your brain and eyes. But for AR, it absolutely isn't required. We can use glasses and much more, sensors that are already on the glasses... We just need to find a way, how to bring so much technology inside a very small space. That should be much easier than Full Dive VR. Digitalization was the past, now the era of virtualization has begun.
I'd like to believe that, but with the amount of accidents Pokemon Go alone caused, there could actually be more deaths. Ultimately though, in AR's case, it has the excuse that it's very hard to save people from themselves.
They both have their challenges, but yeah, AR's problems are going to be easier to solve in the near term than VR so it shouldn't be too much longer before it hits its stride.
@@VirtualDreamers exactly but i want real feeling super powers =( ar is gonna make me have to run i don't wanna run and i can't jump very high ether lmao... Also i'm pretty sure karen's gonna trip and break her ankle and sue the company and ruin it for everybody.
@@weatherwheel3109 Sounds like VR's more your style. You're in good company, although if getting into car accidents and walking off cliffs didn't kill Pokemon Go, I think AR's going to be just fine with some casualties.
My biggest concern is the processing power available to these portable headsets. We may need a backpack with a battery backup and a powerful computer in it to really do anything cool.
Sensations= no Seeing AR= yes Networking= yes Making it compact= getting there In conclusion AR needs you to be in the actual place and is almost here Full dive can be anywhere and is about 40 years in the future
Beautiful video! Very well covered. I would love to see the capabilities of VR and AR, especially if they have a lot of support for the community to mod and make games / improvements overall.
This could be something replacing mobiles(you can use the network for everything that a phone can like shopping, calling...etc), and since they just got into flexible mobiles, they aren't focusing on this side enough to actually have a stronger impact in the close future(it will definetly develop, but wont be enough for an ARMMO), if they would try to approach this from a different angle than they currently do, we could see some cool stuff even in a few years, but as it is right now, we cant ask for the same experience as we've seen it in the anime
We've got another 7 years till the comparable 2026 release date. Under most circumstances, I would think that's not enough time to get the improvements needed, but the amount of money I'm seeing poured into AR and knowledge that it's likely going to be the follow up/replacement to smartphones actually has me expecting a much faster rate of progress here. It's been fascinating to see how we started with the Galaxy Note Edge, then saw the curved edges become standard, and to seeing notches with the Essential phone and iPhone X, to now hole punch displays and fold-able displays. Shame for VR that the progressive increases in resolution we had decided to stop at 1440p, but AR is looking to be on a much healthier trajectory for the near future. These are some pretty exciting times :)
Virtual Dreamers This is all true, I'd probably be one of the happiest person to see a well working AR system in our economy in that close future, but with VR I could say that they have a different approach here either, they are trying to improve the screen resolution, while their goal should be to get rid of simple screens, and try to focus on the NerveGear kind of approach(but last time I checked this topic, they said that we don't have enough knowledge of our brains to try that, and it would be risky to test, it could injure the testers brain...etc and that is not quite allowed and not many people would want to risk their life for that)
Sorry for my english. In my opinion, AR is realitiy very very soon. But fighting like Ordinal Scale will require Brain control. Imagine u are hitting to swords, but they are no real swords. So they will just pass each other. In this moment the device have to tell your brain, that your arm is not able to move any further. But i think that even this could be realitiy soon...
That's actually what happens Ordinal Scale. Brain tech can't actually solve the problem you described physically because our muscles aren't designed to stop like that and the physics of momentum would hurt you in these scenarios. That's a problem is Augmented Reality as a whole. It's just not safe to affect the player that way IRL. That's the reason why I mention that Ordinal scale and Augmented Reality have the same limits in the video. Only VR can do what you described well because of the lack of risk to the user and the reliable force feedback. Our current VR is basically AR pretending to be VR since it has this same problem, but a neural or intent based VR system doesn't haven't these problems. Basically, AR is just going to be fancy LARPing while VR is essentially being transferred to another world.
One problem is that it's very difficult for the Quest and HMDs like it to work outside. Might work in twilight settings, but beyond that it's not quite there. However, the potential definitely is! I wouldn't be surprised if a Quest successor or something expanding on the capabilities of it would be able to get there.
If you ask me it's just a more futuristic version of Pokémon go. The only difference is the action is happening right in front of your eyes instead of on your phone. I could think of a more realistic version thou. Why not make the Augma a pair of glasses instead of that weird antenna thing projecting stuff right on your eyes and put an earpiece in both ears. And ya know may not put graphics literally everywhere covering up the whole city. Either way, the idea of the Augma still seams more realistic than putting on headgear that shuts down your whole body.
Since the MedQuest three is a thing now, we can do get a tandem app. That’ll work between VR and your phone with Meta Quest 3 or whatever device you have to Use your hotspot and then you would sync the device to your phone via Bluetooth. The app would basically use your GPS to tracking for in game reasons like events. On the other side would you would have the VR game which would work in tandem with the phone it would contain most of the gameplay features.
Give the World 1 or 2 Decades and its a yes. Heck even now, Mark Zucc is pitching in the AR realm. Saying it is the one that will replace the Smartphone.
Imagine getting immobilized and getting blown by the boss. Does that mean in reality your being blown away and immobilized also? Its weird but maybe just get damaged in hp not stun or something.
Nope, the anime shows you just lose your hp and you’re avatar dematerializes. Even IRL it’s one of the disadvantages of AR compared to VR. Haptics have to be weaker and have no real impact since real physics, momentum, and touch take priority, resulting in just some light touch feel from the game at best. The first AR game technology to try and let you get knock back from game damage outside of a controlled environment will be the last the moment someone gets hurt or killed while using it. If someone wants to get full feel out of their game, they either need to augment real things that do the impact or just play VR that had a haptic solution.
The devs would need big money to book certain places so that players don't bump into people, and are in one contained place. Like imagine you're just standing there and you see some dudes battling it out with their invisible swords and yelling out "SWITCHEEEEE"
So my question is... would a real world adaptation of ordinal scale even be fun? Especially in terms of pvp it would probably be pretty lack luster especially since u cant recreate the feeling of swords clashing together with force
That's a more worthwhile to ask here. If someone's expecting SAO, but IRL, they'll be disappointed. But if you think of it like next level LARPING, the appeal becomes more clear. Also worth noting, games like Pokemon will pretty much assure this stuff will print money in the long run, to say nothing of the more real world applications.
We really are just a small step up away from that smart phone tech before what Ordinal Scale showed is the norm. Oculus Quest has now released and many hackers have basically gotten things not unlike Ordinal Scale up and running.
What i believe will be a major step towards AR is when local arcade's start making AR rooms where you can play whatever game you want, and eventually this will be going onto the streets
"Can we make Ordinal Scale?" "Yes we can." They just need to like simplify the microholo, and oculus, so it doesn't look weird when in public. I mean like the one in Ordinal Scale but yeah just need to wait for it....
The one in Ordinal Scale relies on directly communicating with are brain to overlay images like the nerve gear. In contrast to our current developments right now, we see the world through a type of display like glasses. The problem with a glasses type display is that it doesn't cover everything. So if you look above your glasses you would be pulled out of the experience. + A game like ordinal would require a good amount of processing power. Most VR generally connects with a computer to get that power and although we have headsets that don't need to connect with a computer it would be hard to compact it. That's why I reckon that either we need to accept wearing a box on are heads or settle with basic Augmented realities through something like glasses. That being said the moment we have something like the nerve gear something as compact as the one in the Ordinal Scale would be easy to create.
Not only that but, with these lot of politics going on, it's hard to even secure a place to play freely like in the 1st battle of Ordinal Scale.... Japan, is the most likely option to play this kind of game in....
It's crazy how close this really is. What's your take on VR in the context of AR being the next smartphone? Do you think VR will be as well since they are so complementary and would probably just be the same device at some point?
A bit of both. They can both become one device, but AR is going to be VASTLY more popular so long as humanity doesn't completely abandon the real world. I'd say AR will likely be more like Smartphone where it's iniquitous and used for just about everything where as VR will be akin to the current PC/Console market, where it's used heavily by a dedicated following/demographic, but that demographic still engages with the other product regularly.
Ah gotcha. So both might have a similar amount of adoption if they were the same device since afterall, you have no choice what you get then, but the use of the devices will skew a lot more towards AR. Kind of like the percentage of people who use Switch handheld vs docked, though I have no idea what those numbers are.
but idk, it depends on what is easier to make, but i guess i changed my mind. I think ordinal scale would be done first before the nerve gear to be completed.
Yep, the only problems seem to be a lack of sensation and a bit of bulkiness. If you were to pick a medieval setting and duel with another player your swords would just pass through each other, for a true Ordinal Scale experience the AR machine needs to 'contract' your wrist muscles during the impact so it feels like your sword hit something solid but this would most likely require a full bodysuit which isn't feasible/convenient. Shooters are definitely feasible though! When you get shot you'd see red around your vision like in a FPS game.
One question I got is, how safe would it really be? I mean you go out side with it, th e chance of getting hit by a car you cant see seems very likely. Basically how would real world dangers be applied?
For the most part, it would be about as safe as any other, more normal outdoor activity if it's done right. Unlike Pokemon Go, which currently depends on us taking our eyes to something that only covers a small portion of our vision (our phones), a proper AR system would essentially cover the majority of, if not all of your FOV in the AR world, modifying it to suit the desired experience. This usually relies on some kind of external tracking, for the purposes of environment comprehension and 3d specialization. In all likelihood, if something unexpected were to enter the play space, software would probably be set in place to either cancel out the simulation or alert you of its presence. All in all, it'd be no more dangerous that going outside larping would be right now if the developers don't go out of their way to risk the users safety. Ultimately though, AR and VR have very different strengths. To put it in more simple terms, AR will be the equivalent of going outside to play while VR will be what console/pc gaming is today. Each has their value and some people will gravitate more towards one than the other.
meanwhile in another verse and world (later on, towards some parts of their galaxy), the Focus devices. and towards any unknown number of Sirius era virtual interfaces, etc.
I'm pretty sure ar is harder to create than vr full dive. I'm saying that we should probably create vr full dive and then ar which is what they did in sao.
Man. Watching your other vid on full dive being possibly made around 2050 is sorta sad. 30 years from now and gosh it was devastating Haha! But how you put things makes it seem as if they are closer than we think
I personally know the creator of the Oculus Rift, he is Palmer Freeman Lucky, and I got to go to his wedding in California (and got to go to his house which looks amazing!! He loves anime way more than I ever can) if you don’t believe me go to the link below to ua-cam.com/video/FAnOyKN-Cqg/v-deo.html You can see me talking to people who came from Japan (I’m in the long red dress) 1:37:32 to 1:37:58.
That's pretty cool! While he can be a controversial figure in the community, I personally appreciate his massive contribution to the industry and hope to meet him one day to get his insight on the future of our dear medium. Geeking out over stuff just never gets old, doing so with a guy who knows the stuff better than anyone would be a privilege. Thank you for sharing that video Stephanie!
Do you think, LG's smart glasses idea (they scrapped it), in which the image is directly projected into your retina, can be useful in AUGMA???? Wearable headsets are not really AUGMA type, so, a retinal projector may help....
Probably. There are a lot of AR companies and designs coming up all the time now a days so it's really a question of which design manages to be both functional and appealing enough to catch on with the mainstream. Glasses is the most popular depiction, but we never really know with this kind of stuff. I'm willing to go outside running around with an Oculus Quest on my face, but I know that the vast majority of more normal people aren't as keen on that idea.
Have you guys seen the new Hololens 2? I think its awesome.. Sadly, the price is insane, and as the video says, if prices don't lower, nobody would be able to buy the hardware, and if nobody can buy the hardware, software house will never invest tons of money to develop a game for it. Need to wait years to see something like Hololens 2 with a doable price.. If I'm right, actually it costs around 3500$. Not saying that are not worth it, there is a lot of developing behind those hardwares, but with that price, it can't join the 'gaming panorama'
Actually creating sao ordinal scale irl is possible just by using google glasses cause its small and it just need to modify the glasses then presto u got urself a real life ordinal scale
we already have all the technology needed, even before predicted in the anime. albeit, there still needs to be some work done and the game needs to be created, we now know for sure that we can makes this. even if its not through our brains senses being directly stimulated, we already have technology good enough to trick our brains into believing it.
It's basically in the same camp as full dive, just without the same (no implants) limitation. If you skip the brain through and go for sensory organs and voluntary muscles directly, you can get pretty close to the same effect as full dive.
They would first have to make the nerve gear so they can project images to your brain while you are sleeping and then make something similar to project images while you are awake and it's portable
I had a dream that AR was real and I was fighting this dragon with a sword and I almost died so I called an uber and drove off. Then I showed up with my mates and broke the dragons ankles and took his wings.
Give it like, a few more years. That's probably going to be a normal thing. I can even imagine Uber making a deal to bolster players who do so with a bonus.
so true ar on ordinal scale is in site by the time ordinal scale comes in the anime it will likely be as good as ordinal scale like if the tech gets a hair better and less bulky and cheaper it will be a hit like nothing ever seen before you could feel like you were in full dive vr game in some cases even if the day was right like going outside on a nice day say like 70 degrees and the wind is gently blowing and the sun is shining and you see a Pikachu and you can hear it to you grab your Pokeball controller on your hip you press a button to summon your pokemon to fight the pikachu it looks like the pokemon are really there to the point it's ridiculous you see them duke it out like in Pokemon the anime you catch the Pikachu after weakening it for a short moment in time you would feel like you where in the world of pokemon and you could do the same thing with digimon or monster rancher or some of the old final fantasy turn based combat all thought the only downside is you would not be about to do much more than boss and combat with it to make you feel like your there like really there depending on the day so playing games in ar is like harry potter in the sorcerer's stone where harry and ron where playing wizard chess but so cool being how we will get to see a glimpse of what fulldive vr could be like in more than likely 6 to 10 years
Soon Apple's Vision Pro can create Sword Art Online The Movie: Ordinal Scale into reality with better battery tech or simply use external battery packs linked via USB-C to last longer than one session of gaming in reality. I won't be surprise Pokemon Go will also make use of Apple's Vision Pro!
So what are the odds of a “all in one” customizable AR game? I’m talking I wanna go Super Saiyan 3, use force lightning, AND have an anime Waifu all in one game... anything you can think of, you can put in the game. What are the odds of that?
100% depending on the quality you want. If you want Activision, EA, or Nintendo to make that, you're probably out of luck, but the indie scene has had things like that in VR chat for years now so you can bet you'll see that in AR. The intrinsic problem with customizability in games is that after a point, you're just asking the game developers to figure out a way for you to do the same thing they do, without having to as much work. I could set up the specific scenario you described in less than 2 hours in UE4 if someone paid me the money to do it, but asking to create a system that lets you create the customization and you're basically asking someone to make you a game developer. Nothing's stopping you so I'd go for it if you have a sincere interest in that opportunity. It's partially because I wanted to be able to make whatever kind of game or experience that I want that I started to programming, computer arts, and engineering. With those 3 skills, I can effectively do or build anything I want within the reach of my abilities.
Virtual Dreamers all right, thanks! I absolutely can’t wait for this to become a thing! But... one more thing. How would simulating flight work, if at all?
@@keeganfirecloak4695 Flight works kind of terribly in AR and VR right now. It's not that we couldn't do it, but at that point, it's going to have to rely on what we call artificial locomotion, where you move with no stimulation or feedback on how you're doing so that your body can use to "ground" the movement, which makes it feel fake and takes you out of the experience. Only a future VR implementation where you can virtualize your movement inputs and create artificial haptic points would be able to handle that properly. AR isn't really the best medium for the job since it's goal is to make what we can already do IRL even more engaging rather than to expand what we can actually do.
Pretty much. The tech is getting better though and I'm genuinely shocked at how much money is being poured into this stuff. AR is just lucky that it's job is much easier to do than VRs and won't need as much time to reach the point where it's amazing. I think we're due for a 2007 iPhone reveal moment sometime in the next 10 years for AR.
While I still intend to pour effort to support full dive, AR and Ordinal Scale style experiences are so far along already, it's exciting to think we'll have people enjoying these kinds of experiences so soon.
So Pokemon Go could actually look like its trailer...
Amazing stuff. Really is a reminder that we're living in the future.
@@VirtualDreamers nope, we are living to the end world
XD
If you're camera works Yes
@@isekaijohntitorreality-tit2457 all the more reason to ditch this world and move to the stars lol when humanity finally advances the term "end of the world" will be a relic of the past.
lol i went down to comments to and u were the first 1 XD rip build up
As long as there'll be adblocker I'm in
I don't want to be forced to sit through a 30 sec ad before I can fight something
imagine... "charmin ultra soft gets the softest wipe!" then a giant stone bear proceeds to wipe to floor with you
@@mooshesmaps I'll make sure this never happens
@@ashevdev doing gods work haha
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Damn underrated comment
100 percent agree with this video!
AR like in Ordinal Scale needs the technology of Full Dive VR, because it directly effects your vision inside your brain and eyes.
But for AR, it absolutely isn't required. We can use glasses and much more, sensors that are already on the glasses...
We just need to find a way, how to bring so much technology inside a very small space. That should be much easier than Full Dive VR.
Digitalization was the past, now the era of virtualization has begun.
Straight facts right here, cant wait for some ordinal scale games on the oculus quest!
Finally no click bait but an actual video and good information! grade video buddy keep it up! I also like your voice :P XD sounds nice. :P
Thank you for the feedback. I've got more in the pipeline so there should be more to enjoy in the near future.
Much more likely than Sword Art Online in my opinion. Well at least without the killer part. 😂
I'd like to believe that, but with the amount of accidents Pokemon Go alone caused, there could actually be more deaths. Ultimately though, in AR's case, it has the excuse that it's very hard to save people from themselves.
@@VirtualDreamers True.
Lets just hope the log out button doesnt break
It’s 2020 now. If you saw the date in the movie it was 2026. So we might have to wait 6 years...
Ar is way easier to do than full dive vr so more than likely yes
They both have their challenges, but yeah, AR's problems are going to be easier to solve in the near term than VR so it shouldn't be too much longer before it hits its stride.
@@VirtualDreamers exactly but i want real feeling super powers =( ar is gonna make me have to run i don't wanna run and i can't jump very high ether lmao... Also i'm pretty sure karen's gonna trip and break her ankle and sue the company and ruin it for everybody.
@@weatherwheel3109 Sounds like VR's more your style. You're in good company, although if getting into car accidents and walking off cliffs didn't kill Pokemon Go, I think AR's going to be just fine with some casualties.
oh yeah if the price of AR is just a few people here and there who cares right?
My biggest concern is the processing power available to these portable headsets. We may need a backpack with a battery backup and a powerful computer in it to really do anything cool.
OMG 😭😭 I hope it's soon!! I don't want to be to old!!!
it's close because we already have AR usage in our world right now and obviously they don't need to create a reality that's already here unlike VR.
It will be here soon
Sensations= no
Seeing AR= yes
Networking= yes
Making it compact= getting there
In conclusion
AR needs you to be in the actual place and is almost here
Full dive can be anywhere and is about 40 years in the future
Sensation should have on or off option.
Beautiful video! Very well covered. I would love to see the capabilities of VR and AR, especially if they have a lot of support for the community to mod and make games / improvements overall.
This could be something replacing mobiles(you can use the network for everything that a phone can like shopping, calling...etc), and since they just got into flexible mobiles, they aren't focusing on this side enough to actually have a stronger impact in the close future(it will definetly develop, but wont be enough for an ARMMO), if they would try to approach this from a different angle than they currently do, we could see some cool stuff even in a few years, but as it is right now, we cant ask for the same experience as we've seen it in the anime
We've got another 7 years till the comparable 2026 release date. Under most circumstances, I would think that's not enough time to get the improvements needed, but the amount of money I'm seeing poured into AR and knowledge that it's likely going to be the follow up/replacement to smartphones actually has me expecting a much faster rate of progress here. It's been fascinating to see how we started with the Galaxy Note Edge, then saw the curved edges become standard, and to seeing notches with the Essential phone and iPhone X, to now hole punch displays and fold-able displays. Shame for VR that the progressive increases in resolution we had decided to stop at 1440p, but AR is looking to be on a much healthier trajectory for the near future.
These are some pretty exciting times :)
Virtual Dreamers This is all true, I'd probably be one of the happiest person to see a well working AR system in our economy in that close future, but with VR I could say that they have a different approach here either, they are trying to improve the screen resolution, while their goal should be to get rid of simple screens, and try to focus on the NerveGear kind of approach(but last time I checked this topic, they said that we don't have enough knowledge of our brains to try that, and it would be risky to test, it could injure the testers brain...etc and that is not quite allowed and not many people would want to risk their life for that)
Sorry for my english. In my opinion, AR is realitiy very very soon. But fighting like Ordinal Scale will require Brain control. Imagine u are hitting to swords, but they are no real swords. So they will just pass each other. In this moment the device have to tell your brain, that your arm is not able to move any further. But i think that even this could be realitiy soon...
That's actually what happens Ordinal Scale. Brain tech can't actually solve the problem you described physically because our muscles aren't designed to stop like that and the physics of momentum would hurt you in these scenarios. That's a problem is Augmented Reality as a whole. It's just not safe to affect the player that way IRL. That's the reason why I mention that Ordinal scale and Augmented Reality have the same limits in the video.
Only VR can do what you described well because of the lack of risk to the user and the reliable force feedback. Our current VR is basically AR pretending to be VR since it has this same problem, but a neural or intent based VR system doesn't haven't these problems.
Basically, AR is just going to be fancy LARPing while VR is essentially being transferred to another world.
Love the videos
One problem is that it's very difficult for the Quest and HMDs like it to work outside. Might work in twilight settings, but beyond that it's not quite there. However, the potential definitely is! I wouldn't be surprised if a Quest successor or something expanding on the capabilities of it would be able to get there.
If you ask me it's just a more futuristic version of Pokémon go. The only difference is the action is happening right in front of your eyes instead of on your phone. I could think of a more realistic version thou. Why not make the Augma a pair of glasses instead of that weird antenna thing projecting stuff right on your eyes and put an earpiece in both ears. And ya know may not put graphics literally everywhere covering up the whole city. Either way, the idea of the Augma still seams more realistic than putting on headgear that shuts down your whole body.
Finally Something to do intill full dive comes out
Whooa I’m from the future
Since the MedQuest three is a thing now, we can do get a tandem app. That’ll work between VR and your phone with Meta Quest 3 or whatever device you have to Use your hotspot and then you would sync the device to your phone via Bluetooth.
The app would basically use your GPS to tracking for in game reasons like events.
On the other side would you would have the VR game which would work in tandem with the phone it would contain most of the gameplay features.
Apple vision pro just got announced!
They are making progress, Minecraft earth cutting out people and putting them in front of the AR elements
Give the World 1 or 2 Decades and its a yes. Heck even now, Mark Zucc is pitching in the AR realm. Saying it is the one that will replace the Smartphone.
Sao is my fav Anime. I know it sounds weird but it made me dream I'm in aincrad 😂😂😂
Imagine getting immobilized and getting blown by the boss. Does that mean in reality your being blown away and immobilized also? Its weird but maybe just get damaged in hp not stun or something.
Nope, the anime shows you just lose your hp and you’re avatar dematerializes.
Even IRL it’s one of the disadvantages of AR compared to VR. Haptics have to be weaker and have no real impact since real physics, momentum, and touch take priority, resulting in just some light touch feel from the game at best.
The first AR game technology to try and let you get knock back from game damage outside of a controlled environment will be the last the moment someone gets hurt or killed while using it.
If someone wants to get full feel out of their game, they either need to augment real things that do the impact or just play VR that had a haptic solution.
The devs would need big money to book certain places so that players don't bump into people, and are in one contained place. Like imagine you're just standing there and you see some dudes battling it out with their invisible swords and yelling out "SWITCHEEEEE"
is anyone else here because of apple vision pro?? crazy how quickly this became reality
Quest 3.
b-b-but- our memories-
You should update this video because of the new advancements in vr/ar...
So my question is... would a real world adaptation of ordinal scale even be fun? Especially in terms of pvp it would probably be pretty lack luster especially since u cant recreate the feeling of swords clashing together with force
That's a more worthwhile to ask here. If someone's expecting SAO, but IRL, they'll be disappointed. But if you think of it like next level LARPING, the appeal becomes more clear. Also worth noting, games like Pokemon will pretty much assure this stuff will print money in the long run, to say nothing of the more real world applications.
Omg... We could use aero gel as the mold or glass or something. Although i dont know howmuch aerogel costs :/
well ar have been in phones for quite some time now we just need little senors and cameras to genrate the image then we will be fit.
We really are just a small step up away from that smart phone tech before what Ordinal Scale showed is the norm. Oculus Quest has now released and many hackers have basically gotten things not unlike Ordinal Scale up and running.
@@VirtualDreamers yeah it's quite easy if u think about all u need is something that's is light and wearable and bingo u ha e ur ordinal scale
@@VirtualDreamers and we getting closer to full dive vr too hear about the new oculus and nuralink interesting tech
What i believe will be a major step towards AR is when local arcade's start making AR rooms where you can play whatever game you want, and eventually this will be going onto the streets
The problem is the fisical contact, like, make your arm stop If your sword hit some solid area
Yes that is what I think you would need to make it feel real or you arm will go forward but in the game your arm will not
And how he say vr is ar that is true vr new reality ar the same reality just with stuff over it
"Can we make Ordinal Scale?"
"Yes we can."
They just need to like simplify the microholo, and oculus, so it doesn't look weird when in public. I mean like the one in Ordinal Scale but yeah just need to wait for it....
Shadow can be online hardware with glasses, and with 4g we can play.
The one in Ordinal Scale relies on directly communicating with are brain to overlay images like the nerve gear. In contrast to our current developments right now, we see the world through a type of display like glasses. The problem with a glasses type display is that it doesn't cover everything. So if you look above your glasses you would be pulled out of the experience. + A game like ordinal would require a good amount of processing power. Most VR generally connects with a computer to get that power and although we have headsets that don't need to connect with a computer it would be hard to compact it. That's why I reckon that either we need to accept wearing a box on are heads or settle with basic Augmented realities through something like glasses. That being said the moment we have something like the nerve gear something as compact as the one in the Ordinal Scale would be easy to create.
@@soul_abyss3854 let's do a startup together
My best bet for AR to be available is probably 2025 but it really depends on progression
but whatever u just said, ill be waiting for it in the future for this technology to be completely done after the nerve gear to be completed first.
Not only that but, with these lot of politics going on, it's hard to even secure a place to play freely like in the 1st battle of Ordinal Scale....
Japan, is the most likely option to play this kind of game in....
Im happy that Im not that old so maybe I can still live all that technic. But Im sad, It will still need 50 Years when not even more....
It's crazy how close this really is.
What's your take on VR in the context of AR being the next smartphone? Do you think VR will be as well since they are so complementary and would probably just be the same device at some point?
A bit of both. They can both become one device, but AR is going to be VASTLY more popular so long as humanity doesn't completely abandon the real world.
I'd say AR will likely be more like Smartphone where it's iniquitous and used for just about everything where as VR will be akin to the current PC/Console market, where it's used heavily by a dedicated following/demographic, but that demographic still engages with the other product regularly.
Ah gotcha. So both might have a similar amount of adoption if they were the same device since afterall, you have no choice what you get then, but the use of the devices will skew a lot more towards AR. Kind of like the percentage of people who use Switch handheld vs docked, though I have no idea what those numbers are.
N725 We are going to be implementing VR game support into our AR device so you bet they are the same device...to a point.
but idk, it depends on what is easier to make, but i guess i changed my mind. I think ordinal scale would be done first before the nerve gear to be completed.
Yep, the only problems seem to be a lack of sensation and a bit of bulkiness. If you were to pick a medieval setting and duel with another player your swords would just pass through each other, for a true Ordinal Scale experience the AR machine needs to 'contract' your wrist muscles during the impact so it feels like your sword hit something solid but this would most likely require a full bodysuit which isn't feasible/convenient. Shooters are definitely feasible though! When you get shot you'd see red around your vision like in a FPS game.
Now mom's will be nostalgic of when kids were aways inside and they needed to ask them to go outside
Can. Beside already exist. Compact.
One question I got is, how safe would it really be? I mean you go out side with it, th e chance of getting hit by a car you cant see seems very likely. Basically how would real world dangers be applied?
For the most part, it would be about as safe as any other, more normal outdoor activity if it's done right.
Unlike Pokemon Go, which currently depends on us taking our eyes to something that only covers a small portion of our vision (our phones), a proper AR system would essentially cover the majority of, if not all of your FOV in the AR world, modifying it to suit the desired experience. This usually relies on some kind of external tracking, for the purposes of environment comprehension and 3d specialization.
In all likelihood, if something unexpected were to enter the play space, software would probably be set in place to either cancel out the simulation or alert you of its presence. All in all, it'd be no more dangerous that going outside larping would be right now if the developers don't go out of their way to risk the users safety.
Ultimately though, AR and VR have very different strengths. To put it in more simple terms, AR will be the equivalent of going outside to play while VR will be what console/pc gaming is today. Each has their value and some people will gravitate more towards one than the other.
meanwhile in another verse and world (later on, towards some parts of their galaxy), the Focus devices.
and towards any unknown number of Sirius era virtual interfaces, etc.
I'm pretty sure ar is harder to create than vr full dive. I'm saying that we should probably create vr full dive and then ar which is what they did in sao.
Man. Watching your other vid on full dive being possibly made around 2050 is sorta sad. 30 years from now and gosh it was devastating Haha! But how you put things makes it seem as if they are closer than we think
Elon Musk and his company is developing a virtual reality game similar to nerve gear or full dive.
Great vid bro
Thanks for the feedback. I had a blast making it :)
I can't wait I just want something like this to happen I want to be something and I want to be anything I want
Cant wait to play sao
Do "can we make Neural Linker" from Accel world
Well, Elon Musk does have a company called "Neuralink" which is working on a mass production high sensitivity nueral interface, so yes, yes we are
I think this is the most possible SAO technology we could actually produce.
Hurray :D
No. If we think inside the box we will never reach our full potential.
I personally know the creator of the Oculus Rift, he is Palmer Freeman Lucky, and I got to go to his wedding in California (and got to go to his house which looks amazing!! He loves anime way more than I ever can) if you don’t believe me go to the link below to
ua-cam.com/video/FAnOyKN-Cqg/v-deo.html
You can see me talking to people who came from Japan (I’m in the long red dress)
1:37:32 to 1:37:58.
That's pretty cool! While he can be a controversial figure in the community, I personally appreciate his massive contribution to the industry and hope to meet him one day to get his insight on the future of our dear medium. Geeking out over stuff just never gets old, doing so with a guy who knows the stuff better than anyone would be a privilege.
Thank you for sharing that video Stephanie!
Fresh
I give it 7 years more or less for technology to achive that kind of graphics
Right on schedule :)
Do you think, LG's smart glasses idea (they scrapped it), in which the image is directly projected into your retina, can be useful in AUGMA????
Wearable headsets are not really AUGMA type, so, a retinal projector may help....
Probably. There are a lot of AR companies and designs coming up all the time now a days so it's really a question of which design manages to be both functional and appealing enough to catch on with the mainstream. Glasses is the most popular depiction, but we never really know with this kind of stuff. I'm willing to go outside running around with an Oculus Quest on my face, but I know that the vast majority of more normal people aren't as keen on that idea.
Have you guys seen the new Hololens 2? I think its awesome.. Sadly, the price is insane, and as the video says, if prices don't lower, nobody would be able to buy the hardware, and if nobody can buy the hardware, software house will never invest tons of money to develop a game for it. Need to wait years to see something like Hololens 2 with a doable price.. If I'm right, actually it costs around 3500$. Not saying that are not worth it, there is a lot of developing behind those hardwares, but with that price, it can't join the 'gaming panorama'
Just look at the ar glasses north made
I wish had the Augma😂for that free gym membership
meanwhile in much vast collections of verses to down to Sol System-based, there are those like their Sensoriums.
Actually creating sao ordinal scale irl is possible just by using google glasses cause its small and it just need to modify the glasses then presto u got urself a real life ordinal scale
we already have all the technology needed, even before predicted in the anime. albeit, there still needs to be some work done and the game needs to be created, we now know for sure that we can makes this. even if its not through our brains senses being directly stimulated, we already have technology good enough to trick our brains into believing it.
You should do more topic on this to
Definitely on the cards. We have a whole decade's worth of news here to enjoy. Gonna be a treat to watch this timeline unfold.
@@VirtualDreamers yeah got it plus with stuff open source like leap motion
New Sao Game Yes
i just want someone like Asuna😔💔
So what about accel world
It's basically in the same camp as full dive, just without the same (no implants) limitation. If you skip the brain through and go for sensory organs and voluntary muscles directly, you can get pretty close to the same effect as full dive.
They would first have to make the nerve gear so they can project images to your brain while you are sleeping and then make something similar to project images while you are awake and it's portable
To be honest I can see something like ordinal scale happening a lot sooner then full dive vr
I think that the same ordinal scale prob in 7 - 10 years
5:45 ik yall not patience
I had a dream that AR was real and I was fighting this dragon with a sword and I almost died so I called an uber and drove off. Then I showed up with my mates and broke the dragons ankles and took his wings.
Give it like, a few more years. That's probably going to be a normal thing. I can even imagine Uber making a deal to bolster players who do so with a bonus.
so true ar on ordinal scale is in site by the time ordinal scale comes in the anime it will likely be as good as ordinal scale like if the tech gets a hair better and less bulky and cheaper it will be a hit like nothing ever seen before you could feel like you were in full dive vr game in some cases even if the day was right like going outside on a nice day say like 70 degrees and the wind is gently blowing and the sun is shining and you see a Pikachu and you can hear it to you grab your Pokeball controller on your hip you press a button to summon your pokemon to fight the pikachu it looks like the pokemon are really there to the point it's ridiculous you see them duke it out like in Pokemon the anime you catch the Pikachu after weakening it for a short moment in time you would feel like you where in the world of pokemon and you could do the same thing with digimon or monster rancher or some of the old final fantasy turn based combat all thought the only downside is you would not be about to do much more than boss and combat with it to make you feel like your there like really there depending on the day so playing games in ar is like harry potter in the sorcerer's stone where harry and ron where playing wizard chess but so cool being how we will get to see a glimpse of what fulldive vr could be like in more than likely 6 to 10 years
Sooooo...
The question is who is going to invest
I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love an emursive Pokemon adventure
I'M A GIANT SAO FAN WHY HAVE I NEVER SEEN THIS WHYYYY NETFLIXX!!
Put in watch cartoons online.com io, then subbed, then sword art online ll, then ordinal scale.
2026 guys
With this I guess we can cheat on school
Soon Apple's Vision Pro can create Sword Art Online The Movie: Ordinal Scale into reality with better battery tech or simply use external battery packs linked via USB-C to last longer than one session of gaming in reality.
I won't be surprise Pokemon Go will also make use of Apple's Vision Pro!
How much do you think it would cost
So what are the odds of a “all in one” customizable AR game?
I’m talking I wanna go Super Saiyan 3, use force lightning, AND have an anime Waifu all in one game... anything you can think of, you can put in the game. What are the odds of that?
100% depending on the quality you want. If you want Activision, EA, or Nintendo to make that, you're probably out of luck, but the indie scene has had things like that in VR chat for years now so you can bet you'll see that in AR.
The intrinsic problem with customizability in games is that after a point, you're just asking the game developers to figure out a way for you to do the same thing they do, without having to as much work. I could set up the specific scenario you described in less than 2 hours in UE4 if someone paid me the money to do it, but asking to create a system that lets you create the customization and you're basically asking someone to make you a game developer. Nothing's stopping you so I'd go for it if you have a sincere interest in that opportunity.
It's partially because I wanted to be able to make whatever kind of game or experience that I want that I started to programming, computer arts, and engineering. With those 3 skills, I can effectively do or build anything I want within the reach of my abilities.
Virtual Dreamers all right, thanks! I absolutely can’t wait for this to become a thing! But... one more thing. How would simulating flight work, if at all?
@@keeganfirecloak4695 Flight works kind of terribly in AR and VR right now. It's not that we couldn't do it, but at that point, it's going to have to rely on what we call artificial locomotion, where you move with no stimulation or feedback on how you're doing so that your body can use to "ground" the movement, which makes it feel fake and takes you out of the experience.
Only a future VR implementation where you can virtualize your movement inputs and create artificial haptic points would be able to handle that properly. AR isn't really the best medium for the job since it's goal is to make what we can already do IRL even more engaging rather than to expand what we can actually do.
AR chat when?
Keegan Firecloak So... Gmod in AR?
still waiting and hoping on anything close to full dive vr haha
Pladamir Vutin not gonna happen until 2070
We have google glasses and stuff like that but don't work that efficiently
Pretty much. The tech is getting better though and I'm genuinely shocked at how much money is being poured into this stuff. AR is just lucky that it's job is much easier to do than VRs and won't need as much time to reach the point where it's amazing. I think we're due for a 2007 iPhone reveal moment sometime in the next 10 years for AR.
I was definitely born at the right time, think this will be possible in the next 20 years ?
Ordinal scale will easily be doable within the next 10 years, probably sooner.
if yes then you were born 20 years too early... not in the right time /kappa
Tbh i want THIS more then Full Dive For now
Update?
Dude Neuralink might be exactly
Ordinal Scale lol many companies doing a crazy
Basic AR: battery ends you look where you are you're on the street you look if cars are coming Crash
Adding to the list for Halloween special topics ;)
By combine both.
Always thought Ordinal Scale was a lot more plausible (or easier) than SAO
Better making ordinal scale/augma than nerve gear ini real life
While I still intend to pour effort to support full dive, AR and Ordinal Scale style experiences are so far along already, it's exciting to think we'll have people enjoying these kinds of experiences so soon.
Imagine saying link start on augma
I would love boss raids
mark zuckerberg : YES, WE CAN
Neuralink, Sao Devs, Ocoluest quest 2 should rlly work together to make the nervegear. The nervegear should be free so everyone can use it
Ordinal scale comes
My waifu can finally love me