OK, I also can tell a few words about this bike. About neutral - true... It's much easier to get N fron 2nd gear than from 1st and much easier to get when engine is cold and also on new oil. At city I usually use only top case which is enough in 99% situations and also I've got my bike with F800ST cases included which are significantly smaller (but telescopic). But all 3 cases and backpack were enough for me in 4 days trip. About fuel economy my best result was about 360km on highway with average over 100km/h which is quite close to what BMW claims. Yeah fuel gauge is strange I guess because complex fuel tank confuguration and level sensor being placed somewhere under riders butt whith fuel pump. This bike is quite versatile. BMW calls it sport-touring but I think it's rather touring. Last year I've done journey from Yaroslavl to St. Petersburg via Vologda which is about 900km in one day. Tired a little bit but it was a pleasure I was enjoed by road and by riding. From Yaroslavl to Moscow and back (about 600km) - no problem. This year I've planned a journey to Finland but than this virus ruined all my plans...
I' m seriously considering this bike as my 2 nd bike and I want to drive to Moscou ! from France oh and I sub'd to your channel I hope you put subtitles on them soon (I'm learing Russian)
@@trevinormandy14520 Thanks bro ) I will write subs as soon as I found some time and insiration. In which language you wanna see it? I've already done English one for my previous videos seems only 3 left )
I have had 8 of the BMW motorcycles and 2 of the early cars available in the U.S. 2 were R1100RS, 1 R1100S, K75S , K75RT, R80, R100 and R100RS. Of those, I enjoyed the R1100RS, R1100S, and the R100RS the most. The K75S was a good trip motorcycle but a bit top heavy and not as easy to city ride but very smooth (engine has a counter balance shaft). Each of those was comfortable on longer trips. I have not ridden for a few years and have a V-Rod Harley Davidson that is comfortable and powerful but heavy and has a long wheel base. It is not designed for travel. I am now looking for a lighter motorcycle that is still heavy enough to deal with side wind and yet lighter for the strength I have now to manage the weight in city riding. Looking at a variety of the motorcycles that are used in the range of the F800GT. Maintenance cost and parts for BMW's got expensive and that is a factor. I had to disassemble the entire fairing and tank to get to the air filter on the R1100S that took over an hour with an assortment of Allen wrenches due to location of the screws. There were over a dozen on the fairing and then others to remove the tank. I am getting the itch to ride again and the F800GT is a nice design with features that are familiar to me. Thank you for the video and your comments on your experience. Regards, Ed Dentino, East Peoria, IL U.S. A.
Brilliant documentary! It's honest, informative and entertaining. (Loved the tour of Swindon!) I'm interested in the F800GT, so this was useful to see from an owner's point of view. :)
Another awesome video I like this kind of video more like it's a real down to earth daily interaction with the bike it's very helpful thank you. I'm so looking forward to getting my GT in a couple weeks these kind of videos help a lot. And about filtering Canada does not allow filtering so I have no problems with it at all and our Toronto drivers are similar to your London drivers I don't think I filter anyhow.
For the record - I agree about the Neutral comments and the ones below. It's nigh on impossible at times to get the gearbox into neutral after a long run. The tank gauge, yes. Fill to the very brim and set the trip meter then go for 200 miles. Refuel when the light comes on. You have another 20 miles, I have pushed my luck to 32 miles and got away with it. My best was 220 miles out of a tank. The panniers, yes. Try finding a photobag to fit inside the larger one, there are not that many around that do. My biggest single negative is the screen. For a tourer it is far too small. I changed mine for a Puig, life is more bearable now. A great bike, I have had mine for eight years now.
just stumbled across your vid's . Very good work really informative both the two and three year ownership for the F800GT . I am thinking of buying one and your help is very much appreciated . Thanks and happy riding
Thanks for the vid. The chat re pannier contents perhaps not the most exciting viewing. I appreciate the vid was to give an idea of everyday use. I may need to look elsewhere to see how this bike compares to others when pressing on a bit. Good to have avid without shouting or dire music. TY
I prefer this style pannier to the weird semi soft material ones, with the ratchet mechanism, I had on my K12s A small ish top box can be very handy - esp. leaving the panniers off for commuting
Don't fret the neutral search is normal my ST is brilliant my R is getting there and was very stiff from 5500 miles till now. Tjere are a lot of bikes that do this. I use my rear racks more than the panniers . Fab engine! great fuel consumption and the belt drive has no 1st gear clunk. I would buy one again full stop.
Surprised to hear you say it's great around town. Mine was the worst round-town bike I've had: slow steering, feels heavy, hardly ever gets out of second gear, all while blasting hot air onto your left leg. I wouldn't say I hated it, but I did sell it after two months. Great fuel economy though, I'll give you that - although it does need the premium high-octane stuff to run properly.
Thanks for this. Sounds like your biggest complaint can be fixed with a set of custom bags. May be worth it if it helps control your blood pressure lol.
É muito bom ver uma bandeira portuguesa fora de Portugal...adoro essa moto infelizmente com os ordenados que pagam em Portugal, é muito difícil chegar a essa moto e outras coisas de interesse.Bom resumo. Tudo de bom!
The neutral thing is hit and miss, my R yes my ST and GT no. The R had to be put into N while rolling. Enough about the panniers the bike is the most underrated of any one I've ever owned. You have a rack on the back, use it.
Thanks for the video. I'm looking to potentially get this as a first bike, would you recommend that? Also, do you have much experience with somebody riding pillion, as I'd likely be doing that a lot. Thanks again for a great vid.
It's OK I've chosen F800GT as my first bike. I considered only touring bikes. Other tourists are over 1000cc (R1200RT, Triumph Trophy) and too heavy. Small displacement is not enough to carry luggage, pillion and yourself on highways with decent speed and overtakes also would be an issue. In midweight you only has F800GT, new F900XR, Honda NT700V and... maybe chineese CF Moto 650TK. This one is very predictable, packed with useful electronics has low maintenance belt drive (forget about chain lube!) has decent stock windscreen and heated grips (best option ever!). About riding with pillion notice that in some places there are limitations for that for newbies (like in Russia, but nobody cares here). I picked up passengers a few times and they found it very comfortable. Best for it's price I guess. You can check out my videos (they are in Russian but I did most of them with subtitles)
I am looking to buy one of these, on a 13 plate from CMC and am viewing as many videos as I can as it involves finance etc. I want it to be right. You said the seat is adjustable, to what different heights does it go please?
That can't be England, the sun is out! Anyway, there is a used 2016 available in San Diego (my home) and it sounds like it would not be a good buy? I like the size but want a reliable bike. My current bike is a 1996 Nighthawk.
Pannier review 😄....Great bike...nearly 70mpg....unreal...ALl bikes ...and I've had many. tricky on neutral...at least this has indicator....Great handling... Etc...
It might be interesting to note your height & weight. I am 51 and my CBR600F was giving me pain to my back and wrists. I currently have a Tracer 700 whose riding position I like but I find the (comfort) seat is very cruel to my family jewels. They say BMWs are comfy but the riding position does seem too sporty. I am 184cm and weigh 107kgs and I wonder if this would indeed be a comfortable bike to ride for long time (up to a few hours at a time). Thanks for this video.
i have this bike and love it the only problem i have is the engine is such and old design i have fine vibration through every speed. so much so it damaged my satnav on the handlebars. BMW are not updating this but they are bringing out a new gt similar to the s1000r
Did the reviewer ever think about what it’s like to ride this bike on a warm day. This bike is an absolute nightmare to ride in warm weather. I live in a desert region and I can tell you that the heat between your legs is unbearable. The frame itself transfers heat to the inner legs and is not enjoyable ridding above 70 degrees. Love elsewhere when buying this bike if you live in warm climates
Great review. My 2015 F800GT is my 12th motorcycle since 1986 and my third BMW. I’ve had a K1200GT (2003) and an R1200GS (2012) before finding this little gem used with
Got one too now. Very nice shifting and super happy with it even driving in the rain the first ride. Neutral no problem but I just turn it off in front of the traffic light. Too easy.
I really liked this review. I want to downsize from my K1100lt and the 800GT seems perfect. My K does give me tingly hands due to the vibration. How is the GT with this?
After 15 years of riding a Triumph Tiger 1050 with 125.000 km on, I‘m thinking about a smaller bike. Thanks for the review, it makes my decision much easier. By the way, I‘m living in Bavaria, riding an English motorbike and nearly all of the English bikers I met during that time didn‘t drove English ones. Funny thing , isn‘t it? ;-)
Interesting and relevant, I’ve recently got an ST and found the fuel gauge bizarre. I’ve the panniers but not used them… I agree on the BMW prices of accessories though
re the panniers & bags, have a look for Shad inner bags. Shad make the BMW panniers & the inner bags for their SH36 panniers fit straight inside perfectly and there a lot cheaper than BMW bags...circa £22 & great quality. Great blog by the way...be really useful if you could do a video on the maintnance side re how many miles & what sort of failures you have had IF any other than service items...like those very expensive fitting of BMW bulbs :-)
Thank you. I'm looking for my first bike. It was funny, after I got my endorsement here in the U.S. I was told by three people to get a Yamaha FJR1300. I thought that was pretty big for a new, first time rider, but had I gotten it, I would have learned. Unfortunately, about that time, my life took a serious downturn in fortunes, and that endoresment was five years ago, and I'm still bikeless. Things are getting better, and I'm hoping to be able to get a bike soon. If I could find a used K1200 or K1300GT, that would be awesome, but the F800GT is a nice bike, and I know where there's one for sale. I think for me, with the price of gas going through the roof here in the States, the F800 would probably be a better choice, for a number of reasons. So, I found this video rather interesting and your commentary also interesting. I don't know if you still have this bike or not. Could you tell me what comfort seat you installed on that? Also, had you considered a top box to go along with the side cases? It's my understanding that Shad makes the cases for BMW, so BMW themselves may not have had too much say in the design of the cases, athough final say would be theirs. Did you do any other mods to the bike, upgraded horn, driving lights, etc.? I'd be interested in those, as well. Thanks for a great video.
@@TheForeigner68 thank you for your reply. I saw another video with the white F800GT. I figured you had upgraded. I was also thinking about a used R1200RT, but currently out of my price range.
@@TheForeigner68 I certainly can't afford a new bike, so what I'm looking for is used. I was thinking a lower mileage RT from 2008/2009 forward. When I saw 'low mileage', it's a BMW, they run forever. I'm thinking less than 60,000 miles. I can get a 2012 RT for a little less than $8,000USD, whereas the 2013 F800GT is $6,500, although I could probably get them to come down to $6,000. I like the RT because it is a bit bigger, I can sit tall in the saddle, and it has everything I want on it, heated grips, heated seats (I live in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S., where it's cold and damp (rainy) from October until June). While this bike may not be available in a couple of months (the same can be said of the F800GT), I'm pretty sure I'd be able to get another, very similar bike, for about the same price. Surprisingly, there are a lot of BMW riders in this area. www.cycletrader.com/listing/2012-BMW-R+1200+RT-5016726561
I'd be interested to hear your views on the belt drive - costs, the ease with which it can be done by DIY mechanic, etc. I see there's quite a difference between costs for the belt - between BMW, Wemoto, and other retailers And also the assigned 'lifespan' - BMW 24,000mls, but forums suggest up to double this mileage.
@@TheForeigner68 Wow that's utterly bananas! I've usually bought top quality Tsubaki chain & sprocks, and don't think I've ever paid more than £240. DIY so no labour. IIRC, Wemoto sell the belts for around 400£ which is still a lot of money.
@@TheForeigner68 I note some forum content says the belts are made by Continental, and aren't really anything special. Some people said they intended to look across the market to see if the same belt was used on anything else, and then, hopefully buy without the 'BMW' mark up. I see this opportunism a lot with BMW, foolish I think, as it means that switched on people will be put off buying the make - who enjoys being ripped off?
I think finding neutral somewhat varies from bike to bike. My present R1200RT from 2016 sometimes like to hide N from me. With the R1200R (2014) I had before it was never an issue. Wish you all a happy new year from Germany.
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OK, I also can tell a few words about this bike. About neutral - true... It's much easier to get N fron 2nd gear than from 1st and much easier to get when engine is cold and also on new oil. At city I usually use only top case which is enough in 99% situations and also I've got my bike with F800ST cases included which are significantly smaller (but telescopic). But all 3 cases and backpack were enough for me in 4 days trip. About fuel economy my best result was about 360km on highway with average over 100km/h which is quite close to what BMW claims. Yeah fuel gauge is strange I guess because complex fuel tank confuguration and level sensor being placed somewhere under riders butt whith fuel pump. This bike is quite versatile. BMW calls it sport-touring but I think it's rather touring. Last year I've done journey from Yaroslavl to St. Petersburg via Vologda which is about 900km in one day. Tired a little bit but it was a pleasure I was enjoed by road and by riding. From Yaroslavl to Moscow and back (about 600km) - no problem. This year I've planned a journey to Finland but than this virus ruined all my plans...
I' m seriously considering this bike as my 2 nd bike and I want to drive to Moscou ! from France oh and I sub'd to your channel I hope you put subtitles on them soon (I'm learing Russian)
@@trevinormandy14520 Thanks bro ) I will write subs as soon as I found some time and insiration. In which language you wanna see it? I've already done English one for my previous videos seems only 3 left )
I have had 8 of the BMW motorcycles and 2 of the early cars available in the U.S. 2 were R1100RS, 1 R1100S, K75S , K75RT, R80, R100 and R100RS. Of those, I enjoyed the R1100RS, R1100S, and the R100RS the most. The K75S was a good trip motorcycle but a bit top heavy and not as easy to city ride but very smooth (engine has a counter balance shaft). Each of those was comfortable on longer trips. I have not ridden for a few years and have a V-Rod Harley Davidson that is comfortable and powerful but heavy and has a long wheel base. It is not designed for travel. I am now looking for a lighter motorcycle that is still heavy enough to deal with side wind and yet lighter for the strength I have now to manage the weight in city riding. Looking at a variety of the motorcycles that are used in the range of the F800GT. Maintenance cost and parts for BMW's got expensive and that is a factor. I had to disassemble the entire fairing and tank to get to the air filter on the R1100S that took over an hour with an assortment of Allen wrenches due to location of the screws. There were over a dozen on the fairing and then others to remove the tank. I am getting the itch to ride again and the F800GT is a nice design with features that are familiar to me. Thank you for the video and your comments on your experience. Regards, Ed Dentino, East Peoria, IL U.S. A.
Impressed with your clear awareness of environment, head moving to check side streets as you approach. Good discipline.
Brilliant documentary! It's honest, informative and entertaining. (Loved the tour of Swindon!) I'm interested in the F800GT, so this was useful to see from an owner's point of view. :)
Another awesome video I like this kind of video more like it's a real down to earth daily interaction with the bike it's very helpful thank you. I'm so looking forward to getting my GT in a couple weeks these kind of videos help a lot. And about filtering Canada does not allow filtering so I have no problems with it at all and our Toronto drivers are similar to your London drivers I don't think I filter anyhow.
Excellent review, thank you. I am thinking about getting used F800GT, this is very helpfull.
For the record - I agree about the Neutral comments and the ones below. It's nigh on impossible at times to get the gearbox into neutral after a long run. The tank gauge, yes. Fill to the very brim and set the trip meter then go for 200 miles. Refuel when the light comes on. You have another 20 miles, I have pushed my luck to 32 miles and got away with it. My best was 220 miles out of a tank.
The panniers, yes. Try finding a photobag to fit inside the larger one, there are not that many around that do.
My biggest single negative is the screen. For a tourer it is far too small. I changed mine for a Puig, life is more bearable now.
A great bike, I have had mine for eight years now.
just stumbled across your vid's . Very good work really informative both the two and three year ownership for the F800GT . I am thinking of buying one and your help is very much appreciated . Thanks and happy riding
I rode one yesterday, it's a great bike :)
I also have the F800GT white from 2014 January and I love it in Belgium Ostend.
Thanks for the vid. The chat re pannier contents perhaps not the most exciting viewing. I appreciate the vid was to give an idea of everyday use. I may need to look elsewhere to see how this bike compares to others when pressing on a bit. Good to have avid without shouting or dire music. TY
I prefer this style pannier to the weird semi soft material ones, with the ratchet mechanism, I had on my K12s
A small ish top box can be very handy - esp. leaving the panniers off for commuting
Don't fret the neutral search is normal my ST is brilliant my R is getting there and was very stiff from 5500 miles till now. Tjere are a lot of bikes that do this. I use my rear racks more than the panniers . Fab engine! great fuel consumption and the belt drive has no 1st gear clunk. I would buy one again full stop.
why do people wait to find neutral when they are stopped? I find it much easier to find neutral while I'm still moving, just before I'm stopped.
My school instructor told me to stop on traffic only with 1st gear engaged - if anything happens beside you can quickly escape.
Surprised to hear you say it's great around town. Mine was the worst round-town bike I've had: slow steering, feels heavy, hardly ever gets out of second gear, all while blasting hot air onto your left leg. I wouldn't say I hated it, but I did sell it after two months. Great fuel economy though, I'll give you that - although it does need the premium high-octane stuff to run properly.
So nice I watched it twice 😊
Tell us about the servicing costs etc pls.
Thanks for this. Sounds like your biggest complaint can be fixed with a set of custom bags. May be worth it if it helps control your blood pressure lol.
É muito bom ver uma bandeira portuguesa fora de Portugal...adoro essa moto infelizmente com os ordenados que pagam em Portugal, é muito difícil chegar a essa moto e outras coisas de interesse.Bom resumo. Tudo de bom!
@@TheForeigner68 pois são, a minha filha trabalha no UK, Nottingham e já me tinha dito mas enquanto há vida há esperança. Um abraço!
Useful video thanks.
The neutral thing is hit and miss, my R yes my ST and GT no. The R had to be put into N while rolling. Enough about the panniers the bike is the most underrated of any one I've ever owned. You have a rack on the back, use it.
Thanks for the video. I'm looking to potentially get this as a first bike, would you recommend that? Also, do you have much experience with somebody riding pillion, as I'd likely be doing that a lot. Thanks again for a great vid.
It's OK I've chosen F800GT as my first bike. I considered only touring bikes. Other tourists are over 1000cc (R1200RT, Triumph Trophy) and too heavy. Small displacement is not enough to carry luggage, pillion and yourself on highways with decent speed and overtakes also would be an issue. In midweight you only has F800GT, new F900XR, Honda NT700V and... maybe chineese CF Moto 650TK. This one is very predictable, packed with useful electronics has low maintenance belt drive (forget about chain lube!) has decent stock windscreen and heated grips (best option ever!). About riding with pillion notice that in some places there are limitations for that for newbies (like in Russia, but nobody cares here). I picked up passengers a few times and they found it very comfortable. Best for it's price I guess. You can check out my videos (they are in Russian but I did most of them with subtitles)
You don't stop to find neutral. You do it a bit earlier.
I am looking to buy one of these, on a 13 plate from CMC and am viewing as many videos as I can as it involves finance etc. I want it to be right. You said the seat is adjustable, to what different heights does it go please?
That can't be England, the sun is out! Anyway, there is a used 2016 available in San Diego (my home) and it sounds like it would not be a good buy? I like the size but want a reliable bike. My current bike is a 1996 Nighthawk.
Estou indeciso entre comprar esta magnifica bmw g800gt ou a vfr800 vtec aqui no Uk e depois retornar de vez para Portugal e legalizar la.
Pannier review 😄....Great bike...nearly 70mpg....unreal...ALl bikes ...and I've had many. tricky on neutral...at least this has indicator....Great handling... Etc...
It might be interesting to note your height & weight. I am 51 and my CBR600F was giving me pain to my back and wrists. I currently have a Tracer 700 whose riding position I like but I find the (comfort) seat is very cruel to my family jewels. They say BMWs are comfy but the riding position does seem too sporty. I am 184cm and weigh 107kgs and I wonder if this would indeed be a comfortable bike to ride for long time (up to a few hours at a time). Thanks for this video.
@@TheForeigner68 Hahaha :-) Which seat did you get, & at what price, if I may ask. I just bought this bike, 2017 model.
i have this bike and love it the only problem i have is the engine is such and old design i have fine vibration through every speed. so much so it damaged my satnav on the handlebars. BMW are not updating this but they are bringing out a new gt similar to the s1000r
I rode one yesterday, it had grip puppies and heavy bar end weights on think that really helps :)
Did the reviewer ever think about what it’s like to ride this bike on a warm day. This bike is an absolute nightmare to ride in warm weather. I live in a desert region and I can tell you that the heat between your legs is unbearable. The frame itself transfers heat to the inner legs and is not enjoyable ridding above 70 degrees. Love elsewhere when buying this bike if you live in warm climates
Don't like the color you chose but it's a matter of taste of course
Great review. My 2015 F800GT is my 12th motorcycle since 1986 and my third BMW. I’ve had a K1200GT (2003) and an R1200GS (2012) before finding this little gem used with
That was most informative and commentary was very laid back and clear, thank you.
Got one too now.
Very nice shifting and super happy with it even driving in the rain the first ride.
Neutral no problem but I just turn it off in front of the traffic light. Too easy.
Great video! I am considering getting myself one of these bikes. The maintenance on it appears to be very easy too.
Swindon. Home of the Lotus Eaters and migrant hotels. Nice bike.
Cheers
I really liked this review. I want to downsize from my K1100lt and the 800GT seems perfect. My K does give me tingly hands due to the vibration. How is the GT with this?
After 15 years of riding a Triumph Tiger 1050 with 125.000 km on, I‘m thinking about a smaller bike. Thanks for the review, it makes my decision much easier.
By the way, I‘m living in Bavaria, riding an English motorbike and nearly all of the English bikers I met during that time didn‘t drove English ones. Funny thing , isn‘t it? ;-)
Great stuff. 66mpg for your 222 miles. Interesting about the neutral issue (seems a lot of viewers agree)
Interesting and relevant, I’ve recently got an ST and found the fuel gauge bizarre. I’ve the panniers but not used them… I agree on the BMW prices of accessories though
re the panniers & bags, have a look for Shad inner bags. Shad make the BMW panniers & the inner bags for their SH36 panniers fit straight inside perfectly and there a lot cheaper than BMW bags...circa £22 & great quality. Great blog by the way...be really useful if you could do a video on the maintnance side re how many miles & what sort of failures you have had IF any other than service items...like those very expensive fitting of BMW bulbs :-)
Ive 2012 F800ST. Thinking of getting a new panniers. What did u have on it? Looks nice, mate. From Msia.
I love near miles instead of those darn kilometers. Viva SAE!!!
With a slip on exhaust this bike so much better I have the st model and love it,
Gracias! thanks for the review!
Hello from Portugal
Thank you. I'm looking for my first bike. It was funny, after I got my endorsement here in the U.S. I was told by three people to get a Yamaha FJR1300. I thought that was pretty big for a new, first time rider, but had I gotten it, I would have learned. Unfortunately, about that time, my life took a serious downturn in fortunes, and that endoresment was five years ago, and I'm still bikeless. Things are getting better, and I'm hoping to be able to get a bike soon. If I could find a used K1200 or K1300GT, that would be awesome, but the F800GT is a nice bike, and I know where there's one for sale. I think for me, with the price of gas going through the roof here in the States, the F800 would probably be a better choice, for a number of reasons.
So, I found this video rather interesting and your commentary also interesting. I don't know if you still have this bike or not. Could you tell me what comfort seat you installed on that? Also, had you considered a top box to go along with the side cases? It's my understanding that Shad makes the cases for BMW, so BMW themselves may not have had too much say in the design of the cases, athough final say would be theirs.
Did you do any other mods to the bike, upgraded horn, driving lights, etc.? I'd be interested in those, as well.
Thanks for a great video.
@@TheForeigner68 thank you for your reply. I saw another video with the white F800GT. I figured you had upgraded. I was also thinking about a used R1200RT, but currently out of my price range.
@@TheForeigner68 I certainly can't afford a new bike, so what I'm looking for is used. I was thinking a lower mileage RT from 2008/2009 forward. When I saw 'low mileage', it's a BMW, they run forever. I'm thinking less than 60,000 miles. I can get a 2012 RT for a little less than $8,000USD, whereas the 2013 F800GT is $6,500, although I could probably get them to come down to $6,000.
I like the RT because it is a bit bigger, I can sit tall in the saddle, and it has everything I want on it, heated grips, heated seats (I live in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S., where it's cold and damp (rainy) from October until June).
While this bike may not be available in a couple of months (the same can be said of the F800GT), I'm pretty sure I'd be able to get another, very similar bike, for about the same price. Surprisingly, there are a lot of BMW riders in this area.
www.cycletrader.com/listing/2012-BMW-R+1200+RT-5016726561
I'd be interested to hear your views on the belt drive - costs, the ease with which it can be done by DIY mechanic, etc.
I see there's quite a difference between costs for the belt - between BMW, Wemoto, and other retailers
And also the assigned 'lifespan' - BMW 24,000mls, but forums suggest up to double this mileage.
@@TheForeigner68 Wow that's utterly bananas!
I've usually bought top quality Tsubaki chain & sprocks, and don't think I've ever paid more than £240. DIY so no labour.
IIRC, Wemoto sell the belts for around 400£ which is still a lot of money.
@@TheForeigner68 I note some forum content says the belts are made by Continental, and aren't really anything special. Some people said they intended to look across the market to see if the same belt was used on anything else, and then, hopefully buy without the 'BMW' mark up.
I see this opportunism a lot with BMW, foolish I think, as it means that switched on people will be put off buying the make - who enjoys being ripped off?
👏👏👏 português treatment...
Im thinking to buy this bike next year and this video helped a lot.Thank you!
Did you get one?
@@iandocherty5278 No
I bought a Kawasaki Versys in the end
I think finding neutral somewhat varies from bike to bike. My present R1200RT from 2016 sometimes like to hide N from me. With the R1200R (2014) I had before it was never an issue. Wish you all a happy new year from Germany.
Whats the name of the Portuguese place? :P
@@TheForeigner68 thank you kindly :)