It's complicated. 1 has to be first b/c there's no good way to get back into a chapter 1 state after you progress. 6-7-8 have to be last because once you open the doors to chapter 6, it's very slow to get back into chapter 6 again if you were to revert to an earlier state. In the middle 2-3-4-5 is where you can mess around. The ultra hammer saves a lot of time in chapter 2, so 5 has to be before 2. Mega rush saves a lot of time in 4 & 5, so 3 has to be before both 4 & 5. So it's 3-5-2, and just have to figure out the best time to insert 4. Doing it in a completed state seems best, and after chapter 5 is when we'll be in post chapter 4 state.
There's a single variable that tracks your overall game progress. So if you do something that sets that variable (we call these "triggers") then you can advance or regress your game progress as needed in order to skip things you'd normally have to do to get the cards to spawn, while still getting the cards to spawn after. Example: Because we come into chapter 2 while it's in a completed state (there's a trigger at the entrance of the desert that sets your game progress to early chapter 2 the first time you use it, so using the ultra hammer to come in through the pipe skips having to clear that first), the ruins are already there so we don't need to get the pulse stone to spawn them. Inside the ruins, many things are already completed, which allows us to skip having to lower any sand. But if you go down to where the boss is, he's not there. Getting the Super Hammer, however, is a trigger that sets game progress back to chapter 2, allowing us to place the ruins stones and fight the boss. (Later, because the ultra hammer was replaced with the super hammer, we have to do glitch to skip using the ultra hammer to break a block to reach the ultra boots.)
GUYS, if you want commentary, just watch the twitch stream. It's probably going to be different from the final commentary (as it's just basically a conversation over the TAS), but it's still good. Plus, it means you have to watch it twice now!
This might be a weird question, but why don't people run Super Paper Mario for the Nintendo Wii as frequently as this game or TTYD? Is it because of a lack of glitches or is it because it's a spin-off game to the Paper Mario series?
Well it's a long ass game, and there is no way to access later chapters in the wrong order like the other paper mario games. It's also very boring to run because of lots of text and repetitive parts, like the entire chapter 6. Also IIRC the only real "major" skips are: Skipping Thoreau Skipping Boomer Skipping waking up Peach in chapter 7-3 Skipping rainbow bridge in 7-4 Skipping Thoreau and Boomer are 1 frame tricks and both need a lifeshroom to work, so you only get one shot at them because you lose the lifeshroom in the process. Skipping peach and the bridge use Thudley to jump again in the air, but this trick is also frame perfect and you need to do it like 30 times in a row.
Thanks for taking the time to write that. The game is kind of bullshit in terms of speedruns, although I think that if more time were spent on it then more skips could be discovered.
I kinda like Super Paper Mario but I doubt it would make for a cool tas video.. I could be wrong though but I think the glitches aren't comparable to the ones of 64 and ttyd (in term of how game breaking they are)
The Super Hammer acts as a story trigger, so if you didn’t get it, the game would still think you are in a later chapter and had already beaten Tutankoopa, so he wouldn’t appear.
Gilkey G Don’t worry, most people miss that, like I did. Bow is always in people’s speedruns, she is that good. To see it skipped is just weird. Not saying it’s bad. It just my brain think weird
You should totally add a cam + voice over displaying raw data recorded during each individual frame. That will make a fine substitute for commentary. I think it's fair game to use a smoothing function so the audio doesn't sound like someone shredding a shopping cart.
Randomness 10150 since he did a glitch to "re-get" the star spirit of chapter 5, he went directly to the chapter 7 because the peach cutscene never repeats, so he went directly to the cutscene that would appear when he beat chapter 7, and that makes the game think that he completed chapter 7
By adjusting when he does certain inputs, it'll adjust when the random number generator is accessed, and therefore what the value is when it's relevant. You'll notice that in koopa bro fortress (I don't have a timestamp for you, sorry) he waits a second or two before using the fright jar to make it both take out every enemy and drop another fright jar. The delay there is much more noticable as the desired outcome is a much less likely case. But if for example it's a 50% chance, on average he'll have to delay by one frame, which is very difficult to notice playing it back.
And curse like no pirate ever has when something goes wrong. Instant halt for me if that happens. Generally I like to watch speed runs that just shows the gameplay without having to listen to a thousand F-bombs per second if even the smallest thing goes wrong.
WhiteBladeZero But it's a TAS, you likely wouldn't see anything too wrong. Also, he'd be recording commentary after the thing happens anyway. Plus, he sometimes does commentary explaining glitches during subtitles
I wasn't referring to a TAS; I meant in regular non-TAS speed runs. There have been too many on YT lately that are with live commentary and that is just annoying and distracting.
![[TAS] N64 Paper Mario "All Cards" by Malleoz in 2:30:33.83](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/V8rV2vGgayA/mqdefault.jpg)
The commentated version of this tas went out to buy cigarettes
Glad to see Stryder make a cameo at the start!
"Commentary will be released later"
Still waiting, but that's alright.
yup, still waiting....
imglower where is it
No commentary always better anyways, more relaxing
Getting close to 3 years
@@Wizzkidwas Yeahhh
Now I only have to wait for the commentary since TAS Speedruns are much more enjoyable with a commentary :D
same, i also want an explenation why its better to do the chapters in the weird order 1 3 5 4 2 6 7
It's complicated. 1 has to be first b/c there's no good way to get back into a chapter 1 state after you progress. 6-7-8 have to be last because once you open the doors to chapter 6, it's very slow to get back into chapter 6 again if you were to revert to an earlier state. In the middle 2-3-4-5 is where you can mess around. The ultra hammer saves a lot of time in chapter 2, so 5 has to be before 2. Mega rush saves a lot of time in 4 & 5, so 3 has to be before both 4 & 5. So it's 3-5-2, and just have to figure out the best time to insert 4. Doing it in a completed state seems best, and after chapter 5 is when we'll be in post chapter 4 state.
TeamNinjaCats alright! god explenation. but if you are in ch4, 1 2 and 3 should have been beaten. how does that works?
There's a single variable that tracks your overall game progress. So if you do something that sets that variable (we call these "triggers") then you can advance or regress your game progress as needed in order to skip things you'd normally have to do to get the cards to spawn, while still getting the cards to spawn after.
Example: Because we come into chapter 2 while it's in a completed state (there's a trigger at the entrance of the desert that sets your game progress to early chapter 2 the first time you use it, so using the ultra hammer to come in through the pipe skips having to clear that first), the ruins are already there so we don't need to get the pulse stone to spawn them. Inside the ruins, many things are already completed, which allows us to skip having to lower any sand. But if you go down to where the boss is, he's not there. Getting the Super Hammer, however, is a trigger that sets game progress back to chapter 2, allowing us to place the ruins stones and fight the boss. (Later, because the ultra hammer was replaced with the super hammer, we have to do glitch to skip using the ultra hammer to break a block to reach the ultra boots.)
Both no commentary and with commentary are enjoyable but to be honest I love to watch it once with commentary and then with no commentary.
I watched the commentary for this and you were super entertaining to listen to. Subscribed!
Paper Malleo: The Two Hour TAS
Let's watch the story of when Mario saved all 7 Star Spirits hidden in different lands and beat Bowser, which he did in under three hours.
irrewonderful lol
It's mind blowing how fast the all cards run can be. Watching your videos makes me want to give speed running a try.
cathstablook
trust me speedrunning is tons of fun the only problem is finding a game that stays fun to run ( i could never speedrun rpgs )
So glad I tuned in to the twitch stream, I loved the commentary over this
This is awesome! Glad to see you guys finished this TAS! I heard about it I think a year ago.
Reminds me of that Japanese SPM TAS that was released a couple months ago. The editing style is fantastic.
36:37 "I'm junior troopa, mario, do you remember me?"
uuuuh sure
no
So.... TASing Paper Mario is the one and only thing that doesn't crash it? Kappa
Yoshibug20 || I already crashed the game playing it normally, it was just an accident lol
@@RoddyDev having a friendly conversation crashes paper Mario.
Akio 7812 actually funny story, I was using emuhawk emulator and i tried to tad paper Mario and when I got past the title screen, it crashed.
@@アメリカ人のジョセフ hahahaha well rip xD
Will wait for commentary. Good job anyway!
RomanQrr is commentary coming? It doesn't have to be good, it can simply you talking.
Commentary is coming, just read the description... Also, I don't know why you're asking this guy, since Malleo is the OP, not him. He wouldn't know?
Still waiting...
I don’t think its coming, and I think the route has been updated sense this video. 🤷♀️
Nothing happens until 6:43.
Seems legit UA-cam recognised it as Paper Mario: The Thousend-Year door 2004
They fixed it
thx for giving me a way to kill a few hours and probably a few more on another lazy weekend a few months from now
GUYS, if you want commentary, just watch the twitch stream. It's probably going to be different from the final commentary (as it's just basically a conversation over the TAS), but it's still good. Plus, it means you have to watch it twice now!
Lol, tubba with snot bubble coming out his butt is kinda cursed.
TAS??? TAS!!??!??
my god this takes a lot of work
30:17 wow
You can tell when they gain control because they start spin canceling.
20:37 WOAH WOAH THERE KOOPA DONT SHOW THAT IN A K-A RATED GAME
Me in 2008: WHAT THE HELL IS A K-A RATING?! ALSO WHY AM I SCREAMING!?
Wow, can't believe you can beat the game in only 2 days
Narrihson You mean 2 hours lol.
No, he meant 2 days. He's making a joke out of the title lol
Narrihson It's not day 2
It's hours for sure
Following the logic of the joke though, it would be 3 days because 2:30 would be 3 days and 6 hours
Best way to start off the Weekend!
Wow 8 months ago it felt like this TAS was just uploaded
Okay but I love the art in the thumbnail
I'd like to see a 100% TAS be made on this game! It will be awesome. Wonder how many hours will be saved. Lol.
Anouki I would love that as well
That would take sooooo much work lmao.
49:43
57:32 how is lady bow still here if this TAS skipped her?
do you still plan on releasing commentary eventually?
They did commentary on a livestream the vod is on malleos twitch page
NameChangeTM whats his twitch channel name
SevenThirteenDream still waiting
Somewhere out there a copy of Paper Mario crashed on a system that is not even on.
Not playing Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario
"Commentary will be released later."
six years bro
Am loving this TAS. So if you collect then Ultra Hammer, and then collect the Super Hammer, you actually lose your Ultra Hammer?
i'm looking forward to the commentary :)
25:17
wtf??
RNG Manipulation I think
This might be a weird question, but why don't people run Super Paper Mario for the Nintendo Wii as frequently as this game or TTYD? Is it because of a lack of glitches or is it because it's a spin-off game to the Paper Mario series?
IDK but the timing is total bullshit for both Super and TTYD. It should be before the credits, not when it says the end.
super paper mario's biggest glitch is this thing called thudly jump which sucks ass
Well it's a long ass game, and there is no way to access later chapters in the wrong order like the other paper mario games.
It's also very boring to run because of lots of text and repetitive parts, like the entire chapter 6.
Also IIRC the only real "major" skips are:
Skipping Thoreau
Skipping Boomer
Skipping waking up Peach in chapter 7-3
Skipping rainbow bridge in 7-4
Skipping Thoreau and Boomer are 1 frame tricks and both need a lifeshroom to work, so you only get one shot at them because you lose the lifeshroom in the process.
Skipping peach and the bridge use Thudley to jump again in the air, but this trick is also frame perfect and you need to do it like 30 times in a row.
Thanks for taking the time to write that. The game is kind of bullshit in terms of speedruns, although I think that if more time were spent on it then more skips could be discovered.
It would be an understatement to say that a few skips have been discovered in spm since you posted this comment
Does the overlay read the game's memory in real-time or is it manually edited?
Manually
So... it’s almost been two years. Where’s the commentary of this lol
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
W o a h 10k subs!
Mallet is the expert at speedruns
I mean malleo
so what's the next TAS gonna be?
TTYD All Stars?
Super Paper Mario?
THE MYSTERY!!
sticker star Kappa
I kinda like Super Paper Mario but I doubt it would make for a cool tas video.. I could be wrong though but I think the glitches aren't comparable to the ones of 64 and ttyd (in term of how game breaking they are)
What was the previous TAS world record for all cards? Would you be able to put that in the description by any chance?
Before redoing it from the new tricks it was 2:32:xx. I doubt Malleo will publish that one so this is the first one basically.
Lol just realized how wasn’t on the party members list
Any estimate as to when commentary will come out? Very excited!
Still working on that commentary?
www.twitch.tv/videos/145626330
lakilester has solved ur doubts
Wow time flies
It’s been over a year, commentary is when? I’m still trying to figure out why you downgraded to the Super Hammer.
The Super Hammer acts as a story trigger, so if you didn’t get it, the game would still think you are in a later chapter and had already beaten Tutankoopa, so he wouldn’t appear.
commentary machine broke
ate you making a comentated version?
Read the description.
VídeoGems noice, thanks
Does anyone else miss MKWii? I mean I like Paper Mario and all but will you ever go back to your old games?
Did you ever do commentary for this TAS? I know you keep some encodes Unlisted and linked in the description of the main encode
There was a stream that talked about it but it's since been deleted off of Twitch. Nobody ever grabbed it so sadly the stream is forever gone.
>commentary will be released later
actually never
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
Has anyone did all stars PMTTYD as a tas or non-tas yet?
Did the commentary get completed?
Yeah awhile ago
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
How bout that commentary then?
if luigi enters the castle that means bowser will rob the castle from below and if he doesn't enter this game will end
lady bow supremacy wins
You forgot Lady Bow in the overlay
Never mind I guess you just skipped her
Bow should get more respect #stryder7x
Gilkey G Don’t worry, most people miss that, like I did. Bow is always in people’s speedruns, she is that good. To see it skipped is just weird. Not saying it’s bad. It just my brain think weird
Wait, it didn't crash?
How do you emulate it perfectly?
BizHawk is a great emulator.
What happened to the commentated tas of this on twitch?
Did you lose the Ultra Hammer for the Super Hammer?
malleo asmr when
Junior Troopa: Am I a joke to you?
yes
Except for chapter 8.
You should totally add a cam + voice over displaying raw data recorded during each individual frame. That will make a fine substitute for commentary. I think it's fair game to use a smoothing function so the audio doesn't sound like someone shredding a shopping cart.
That's low health one
There boss all.
ini kehabisan kata utk komentar krn bermasalah sama bhs inggris x
Your channel banner is a bit outdated, isn't it?
Wake never! he's just sticking to his roots
are you MalleoSquirrelX?
Where's Weegee?
Soap Cake anyone?
Or you could wait over 400 years and still make the cake good! #Stryder7xvideoisgreat
Are you going to tas 100% now?
how does the overlay work? is that a cheat or something?!?!?
kel Prins edited into the video after published on tas videos.org
No commentary video?
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
@@DempseyDaPro it says: “this video has expired”
@@xian2themax yea its gone now for some reason
30:17 you know what, frick you
*ungravitationals your pull*
1:52:55 WTF?
Randomness 10150 since he did a glitch to "re-get" the star spirit of chapter 5, he went directly to the chapter 7 because the peach cutscene never repeats, so he went directly to the cutscene that would appear when he beat chapter 7, and that makes the game think that he completed chapter 7
So... When are we getting the commentary? Like seriously, it can't be this hard to get commentary.
No, it's hard all right
NEVER SUB 2:30 BibleThump
Still no commentary so I can't watch this probably awesome run.
Plz, plz the commentary
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
Guess this was cancelled on commentary
twitch.tv/videos/145626330
Insane
COMMENTARY!!!!!
ＭＡＲＩＯ ＳＴＯＲＹ
Nothaut yes... :) we shall I was wondering he doesn't?!
luky!
ok buddy this is fake, how is it that he gets close call every time and no power bounce caps like what?
RNG manipulation
By adjusting when he does certain inputs, it'll adjust when the random number generator is accessed, and therefore what the value is when it's relevant. You'll notice that in koopa bro fortress (I don't have a timestamp for you, sorry) he waits a second or two before using the fright jar to make it both take out every enemy and drop another fright jar. The delay there is much more noticable as the desired outcome is a much less likely case. But if for example it's a 50% chance, on average he'll have to delay by one frame, which is very difficult to notice playing it back.
Rubixninja314 r/woosh
It’s TAS
Speed.
1:01:04 omg 😂😂😂
No commentary? GOOD! I'm so sick of speed runs of any kind having commentary; ruins the whole thing for me.
And curse like no pirate ever has when something goes wrong. Instant halt for me if that happens. Generally I like to watch speed runs that just shows the gameplay without having to listen to a thousand F-bombs per second if even the smallest thing goes wrong.
WhiteBladeZero But it's a TAS, you likely wouldn't see anything too wrong. Also, he'd be recording commentary after the thing happens anyway. Plus, he sometimes does commentary explaining glitches during subtitles
I wasn't referring to a TAS; I meant in regular non-TAS speed runs. There have been too many on YT lately that are with live commentary and that is just annoying and distracting.
Malleo, how much money would you have to get paid to do a speedrun of paper mario color splash? (btw, I hate the game)
Mkw
*I hate bowser*
:D
I disliked all your videos.
Why
Mkw
Mkw