8GB of VRAM Might be Enough for VR After All?! - RX 7600 VR Performance Review
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
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So the Radeon RX 7600 isn't a bad GPU. Whether or not it's worth it's asking price is a point for debate, but when it comes to playing games in VR it's definitely worth considering depending on your budget. If your gaming with a Quest 2 headset however, there is some stuff you're going to want to know about Meta's PC software (aka the Oculus App, Quest Link & AirLink). While AMD updated their drivers in July 2023 finally fixing VR performance with their Radeon 7000 series GPU's; at the time I'm making this video, Meta has yet to get the Oculus PC app working properly with them. In this video I go over some of the problems I encountered while testing the RX 7600 with my Quest 2 as well as test it in 12 different VR games, namely Pavlov, The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners, Beat Saber, Breachers, Contractors, Red Matter 2, Blade & Sorcery, Half Life Alyx, Lone Echo 2, Into the Radius, Assetto Corsa Competizione and Microsoft Flight Simulator. If you use a different headset like the HTC Vive, Valve Index or HP Reverb G2 that doesn't rely on an encoded video stream then the problems I experienced shouldn't effect you, but for those using a Quest 2 like me, at least we have Virtual Desktop to fall back on. Thank you Guy Godin!
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Chapters:
0:00 - It took me 3 days to benchmark 12 games
0:48 - Seriously Meta?!
1:59 - Problems. Lot's of Problems.
3:15 - Is 8GB of VRAM enough?
4:03 - What's the Difference between VRAM usage & Frame Buffer usage? Seriously I Want to Know.
4:42 - More Troubleshooting
5:51 - Thank You Guy Godin!
6:33 - test system specs
6:54 - Pavlov
7:28 - The Walking Dead: Saints & Sinners
8:23 - Beat Saber
8:57 - Breachers
9:38 - Contractors
10:11 - Red Matter 2
10:47 - Blade and Sorcery
11:30 - Half Life Alyx
12:16 - Lone Echo 2
13:04 - Into the Radius
14:18 - Assetto Corsa Competizione
14:57 - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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The 7600 actually performed MUCH better in your tests then I would have thought, even with all the issues you encountered. Thanks for making these vids, keep it up!
Thank you for checking it out and for the comment. I appreciate it.
Huge thanks for benchmarking Radeon cards in VR. Appreciate the content!
You're welcome. Thanks for checking 'em out.
@@Maraksot78Can you try amd fluid motion frame for VR? Really wish that stuff can increase VR FPS.
It's a shame Oculus doesn't prioritise AMD and AMD doesn't prioritise VR, because AMD has the best bang for buck offerings at the moment. Sadly I'll probably have to opt for the RtX 4070 when I get my Quest 3, although admittedly here in Ozthe RX 7800 XT is currently the same price (with the cheapest models available, AMD is $10 AUD cheaper). AMD prices usually drop relatively quickly after launch though.
Or buy an another headset brand...
@@scanx6163 Nothing competitive with standalone about to launch unfortunately. Unless Valve's Deckard get's a surprise announcement before the Quest 3 is available here. But then we still can't even get a Steam Deck locally, except grey market imports. I'll be waiting for reviews, but so far it looks like the Quest 3 will tick all the boxes I need except for eye tracking (which would certainly be nice to have, but isn't essential yet). If I move to a higher tier I also still want standalone, just with laptop compute performance instead of mobile phone. Not interested in Apple's "Walled Garden" either.
@@scanx6163The Quest 3 is leagues better than it's competitors. Not even Apple Vision Pro could properly compete against it in it's current state.
Bro thank you so much for this! Your dedication to these videos highly appreciated!
Would Love a VR benchmark for the RX 7800XT ! This is most reliable channel for VR benchmark on UA-cam. Keep up the good work!
I tried to buy a 7800XT today but they seem to be sold out just about everywhere, so it may be a month or two before I can get one. I did pick up a 4060ti 16GB and a RX 7700XT though so those videos will be coming in the next several weeks. Just FYI I have to buy all the graphics cards I test. I don't get any for free like the big tech youtubers do.
Fantastic review, hugely engaging and entertaining. Unique content on UA-cam - definitely one of my very favourite content creators, please keep it up!
Wow, thank you! I really appreciate that.
Finally someone who did this thank you so much I was debating whether to get it or not thanks for helping me
I hope you do the 4060 soon, this videos are amazing, there is not much people benchmarking vr games, good job man!
thank you so much for video. you restore my confident on AMD radeon cards. Thank you!
I'd love to see Quest 3 benchmark in future.
Thank you for testing and benchmarking. It is important to provide feedback to AMD and Meta so they can continue to improve their software.
The frame buffer is a portion of the VRAM that stores raw pixel data. My guess is you're only seeing around 50% (I guess it's the usage of the buffer not how full it is) because the GPU doesn't request this ton of data very often because of low frame rate. The memory is practically maxed at 7900mb which does mean a VRAM bottleneck.
It's a guess, but a good one I think
That's the way I've been leaning as I've been looking into this more and trying to better understand what the frame buffer is exactly. Still got more to learn, but thanks for checking our the video and for your input. 😀👍🏼
@@Maraksot78 you should also check RAM usage and CPU usage between same architecture chards with different VRAM arrangements. You would expect higher ram and CPU usage once the GPU needs to offload data somewhere else.
@blenderalien ha ha, looks like we're on the same page. I was just thinking I need to throw the 7900XTX back on and monitor how much VRAM is utilized in those games. I didn't think about also monitoring the RAM usage though. I haven't thought about data being offloaded to RAM since the 4GB of VRAM wasn't enough days. Been a few years. 😅 I remember testing the RX 560 years ago and running into frame rate problems with only 8GB of system RAM. The system had to offload to the page file and that hit the frame rate pretty hard. With 32GB of system RAM I know we're not going that far, but we could definitely be maxing out the VRAM and offloading to system RAM. Think I'm going to be doing a little investigating and comparing today. 😎👍🏼
I do hope for a 7800xt VR review but thank you for doing this
I think it's specially important to me to see these cards performance on VR, as the only reason I'm wanting to upgrade my 1060 is to have stable 120hz at somewhat of a high res on VR, and with Nvidia's current terrible offering, i do need to know the amd performance
I'm no Nvidia fanboy but when it comes to VR, gotta hand it to them because AMD isn't focused on VR and neither is Meta/Oculus isn't focused on AMD graphics cards.for the time being, go Nvidia for VR.
@@waltuhputurdaway I would, but 4060ti for 400 is absurd IMO, I could also try to wait for next year in case anything drops though
@@MooshPaw talking about 30 series Nvidia like the 3060 ti or a 3070 for 390 or less
@@waltuhputurdaway i would like a 30 series, specially the 3070/80 that I heard are cheap second handed, but if AV1 does get broader support on twitch it'd be massive to already have it, but 30 series is still an option for me
Buy nVidia used:p I had no problems even back in the the day with a 1070, nor with the 3070. Buying a new card today and VR trouble is just not acceptable.
I love these videos addressing hardware and software limitations and issues for this device. This is because it's a rare topic that only a small handful of creators are talking about.
The quest line of headset is still one the most accessible VR devices out there, and many people either have them or want one. They may have gotten it with standalone in mind, but that never satisfies us. We look for more immersive games, and PCVR is that next level.
Either you already have a VR ready tower or you spent a lot of money upgrading parts that your tower is compatible with, to only try to play games with your Quest 2, to only have it run like hot garbage on a Saturday afternoon.
The Quest 2 is like a small PC (or at least a very advanced smartphone), and getting ti to play nicely with PC systems is not always straightforward, and there can and will be issues. So, thank you for highlighting these issues in your tests. You're doing AMAZING work!
As always, thanks for checking out the video Sigma. I've had some people tell me to test with a "real" VR headset like a Valve Index instead of the Quest 2, but like you pointed out, the Quest 2 is the most accessible headset on the market. Even on Steams own Hardware Survey the Quest 2 makes up 42% of VR headsets used on Steam. The next closest is the Index at 19% so there are A LOT more people using Quest 2's for PCVR than any other individual headset, so talking about the challenges involved with a particular GPU when using the Quest 2 I think is very relevant. I just wish when using a Link Cable it was a display port feed rather than an encoded video stream so that way you can use it like any other wired headset and avoid the encoding issues.
Hey Maraksot, great video! Really appreciate the effort you put into pcvr benchmarking. I was wondering if you could also do at least a little bit of benchmarking in demanding VR modded games. I am building a high end pc right now just to be able to play Luke Ross VR modded games like cyberpunk, hogwarts, rdr2, far cry 6, etc. at great graphics :) I understand if it's a bit too niche for your channel, but I actually think such benchmarks would pull more views than you'd think. There barely is any benchmarking on this out there. Next to nothing on AMD cards as far as I'm aware.
I'm still doubting between getting the 4070ti, 7900xt, 7900xtx and 4080. Priced at 850, 740, 900 and 1200 respectively. For flatscreen and budget reasons I'd obviously go for one of the AMD cards, but VR makes me consider the 4070ti a bit. Recent AMD software developments sound promising for the AMD side of things though. I use a Pico 4 and virtual desktop, but I think your quest 2 tests are pretty representative for it :)
You should try out on 7000 series gpu with fsr3 with the Amd software
I may have missed it but were you using H.264 or H.265 for streaming? I understood the AMD cards struggle with HVEC (H.265) and may benifit from the legacy H.264 standard?
No regular assetto corsa? I need to know if I can run touge with my buddies in vr in 90hp rust buckets (on 90's spec tires) down mt akina!!
**Seriously though, thank you SO much for doing these.**
I'm looking at a new build specifically for Assetto Corsa and vr, but hardly anyone is showing how these cards stack up in vr. This is immensely helpful!
I'm thinking a 7900xtx and a 7800 3dx (using my quest 2), my goal is to be able to run assetto corsa (non competitione) at high/max settings.
My poor 5700xt really struggles with vr, especially AC.
Hi @maraksoft78 could you please test the new RX7800XT seems to be the best mid range GPU out there. I'm debating between RTX4070 and RX7800XT, because my only use for PC Gaming is VR Gaming with Oculus Quest 2. Specially Microsoft Flight Simulator. And there are no info available of that GPU in Flight Simulator VR. Thanks a lot!
Wow, I just discovered your channel but it really is a well-hidden treasure, congratulations for the content, it is very difficult to find content like yours, I wanted to ask you something, I never tried pcvr, I have an OCULUS QUEST2, we want to build a PC for virtual reality with medium/high graphics, so I was thinking of buying an RTX3060 Ti or an RX 7600, which one would you recommend (or another option you suggest), greetings in advance
Since you're using a Quest 2 I would recommend Nvidia over AMD at the moment since Meta has made PCVR with Nvidia GPU's effortless. I don't like recommending Nvidia because I feel they charge too much for their stuff, but until Meta fixes their software, AMD 7000 GPU's are going to have some headaches involved with using them with the Quest 2 as illustrated in this video.
Could you do a benchmark of the 3070? i'm thinking of getting one and would like to know how good it is at vr.
Thank you for testing this before I bought it. I will have to go with a 3060 instead . Seriously you saved me 300 bucks and a headache
Can you do a 4070 (Non TI) Benchmark? I really enjoy your videos.
Would a 6750xt and a 7600x work fine for vr? My current pc's a bit slow and i need an upgrade.
Between the xr6700xt and the xr7600 - which perfomed better in msfs ? In your previous video about the 6700xt you used somewhat different/more demanding settings but with a lower resolution, here you've used AA/off and lower ref.rate which gave an impression of much better graphics and fluidity.. - I'm a bit confused because I'm currently thinking of upgrading my rx6600 to either of those. (low budget and msfs primarily...)
I wouldn't exactly recommend you upgrading to any of the mentioned cards. It's not worth it. I would rather you save up until you can buy at least the 7800 XT or so. It'll be rewarding to be patient. And also, in case, you don't heed my advice, the 6700 XT is superior because of its better VRAM and faster speed than the Rx 7600.
Also "performance headroom" != "GPU usage". Oculus Performance headroom shows how much in advance the game engine delivered the frame before the (always fixed) time for the headset refresh (e.g. 90hz). GPU usage shows whether you are GPU limited (>90%) or CPU/platform limited (
Do you have a 7800 XT review planned? That one looks promising.
Not at the moment, but it's always certainly a possibility.
@@Maraksot78 I think a lot of people, myself included would be interested in seeing a 7800 XT review since it seems like one of the better mid-range cards atm.
And I haven't been able to find any VR benchmarks videos on it yet.
I did try to buy a 7800XT today but they seem to be sold out just about everywhere, so it may be a month or two before I can get one. I did pick up a 4060ti 16GB and a RX 7700XT though, so those videos will be coming in the next several weeks. Just FYI I have to buy all the graphics cards I test. I don't get any for free like the big tech youtubers do.
@@Maraksot78 I see!
There aren't a lot of channels covering vr benchmarks out there so your hard work is highly appreciated.
You should do a test with RX 7600XT and compare the results does 8 gb vs 16 gb
The 8gb vram usage isn't actually usage. It's how much is allocated, that's quite different than how much is used. about 5gb was used at that point. 3:59
That's exactly why FB usage was 50%
It would be interesting to see if the 23.9.1 drivers offer any improvement. Hypr RX may also help in some cases.
Lol what are you insane hypr Rx isn't supported for VR
I picked up a RX 7700XT today so I'll definitely be using the most current driver on it as long as there's no problems with it. 😅
@@Maraksot78 awesome!
Thanks for these videos! Are these tests done wired or wireless? Does Virtual Desktop have a wired mode? Cheers.
The few I was able to do with Quest Link are wired, but Virtual Desktop is wireless only with the Quest 2. I try to do my tests wired when possible to eliminate the possibility of any performance issues from wi-fi latency and other potential connectivity issues.
@@Maraksot78 Thanks. I appreciate it. Cheers.
Virtual desktop is not meant for wired, but there are ways to do it with usb 3/ethernet adapters. I believe it results in a bit worse latency (40-50) than a good wireless setup (20-30), but as a tradeoff it is very consistent.@@Tugennov
I would be interested in the rx 7800xt with demanding vr mods such as the hogwarts legacy or cyberpunk
I know you haven't tried the 7800 XT yet, but judging from the other 7000-series cards you've tested, which card do you think would be best to buy atm for VR:
7800 XT, 6950 XT or a used 3090? (They are around the same price here, give or take $90.)
Meta still doesn't list the 7000-series as supported for quest link, and my takeaway from your reviews is that the 6000-series seems more stable atm.
Hmmm... that's a tough question. Overall, from the stuff I've seen, the 7800XT is the best bang for the buck of any new graphics card on the market, and the 7000 series cards do offer good performance in VR, it's just the issues with the Oculus software that would stop me from recommending them. Although Meta did update the Oculus PC app this past week, I just haven't had a chance to see if they've fixed or at least improved Radeon 7000 Link performance yet. Been working on finding how much of a difference, if any, 16GB of VRAM makes over 8GB.
Is there really not a single VR game that has a built-in benchmark to ensure repeatable measurements on different configurations?
Boa tarde amigo poderia fazer um teste no jogo ETS2 qual configuração ideal para jogar
Do you have any data on the 7900 xtx on the index? Wonder how much of this is AMD, and how much is meta.
I'll be building a 7900 xtx, 7950x3d. I'll be really interested to compare my results with yours.
Worse case I return the 7900xtx, get a 4090. I just don't want to support Nvidia lol.
At the moment I only own a Quest 2, so I don't know what performance with other VR headsets is like. I would imagine performance would be pretty good though when simply using a display port connection. From what I can tell doing my tests, the majority of the problems I'm having are due to Meta's software and the encoded video stream it's sending to the Quest 2. In some games Link and AirLink work fine but in others it's a hot mess, but when I switch to Virtual Desktop more often than not things work great which is a pretty good indicator to me it's Meta's software that's the issue.
@Maraksot78 do you have a community discord? I'd love to send you some of my benchmarks when I get my build complete. Just for a reference point, at least, I think only testing on the wireless link cuts out a huge portion of enthusiast VR gamers.
I've been able to find incredibly few benchmarks, or even reviews for the 7900 xtx I'm vr. Your channel was the best. But only having the quest is a major outlier imo.
its really strange to me you would benchmark on a low framerate headset like the quest, compared to the Index, but i guess it makes sense because the Quest is so much more common and higher resolution?
You hit the nail on the head. I just switched to Quest 3 and wow does it look good, but yah, I started with the Quest 2 simply because it was far less expensive than the Index and I didn't need to put up any base stations in my room. The ease of use was a big plus IMO and with it being far cheaper it was an easy decisions to make. But that's just why I decided to go with Quest when I first got into VR; when it comes to testing GPU's in VR I did think about buying an Index, but when I decided to start doing these tests and videos I checked the Steam Hardware survey to see what all headsets people were using because I was also contemplating buying an HP Reverb G2, but when I saw Quest 2 made up close to half of the VR headsets being used on Steam at that time, it made it really easy to make the decision to just stick with the Quest 2 seeing as that's the headset the majority of people are using.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, I looked at Januarys Steam Hardware survey and Quest 2 is at 40.64%, Quest 3 is at 14.05% and the Rift S is at 8.31%, so over 60% of the VR headsets on Steam are Oculus/Meta devices. That's kinda crazy. The Index is currently at 15%.
If you can get one how about the rx 5700 xt
Hey bro i saw you mic issue videos i have tried everything but still mic is not working .
It only worked when i bought pc & installed windows 11 but now i changed windows to 10 . Headset is connected to green port audio is coming but mic not working what to do 😭😭😭😭😭 & i have tried all other ports 😭😭😭😭😭
apparently amd have there own vr streaming program on sidequest (relive vr). it is wifi only unfortunately.
I appreciate the videos I watched your 7900 videos a while back when I was looking for that GPU. I ended up with 4090. Unfortunately Nvidia is much better for br support. I used to have rx6650xt
Very true, VR with Nvidia GPU's is much easier/straight forward. I don't know what it's like with headsets like the Index and others, but it's certainly true of Meta/Quest.
is this issue fixed? Been considering buying a 7600 xt
Framebuffer is NOT the full 8GB VRAM. The framebuffer is only the part used for storing upcoming rendered frames.
Thanks for answering my questions. I have of course been researching VRAM and frame buffers since making this video and have been working on a new video sharing what I've learned. I also did some additional digging to see if 8GB of VRAM is enough for VR games or not? I bought an RTX 4060ti 16GB so I could compare it's performance with the RTX 4060ti 8GB and see if the added VRAM helps improve performance at all? That video is going live tomorrow morning at 6:00am (06:00) PDT. 😁
@@Maraksot78 Nice! You are filling a niche of VR hardware testing, which I am myself interested in.
The dual dea of a RTX 4060ti 16 GB is great!
Another indication of VRAM overflow is if your system RAM jumps very high, i.e. the VRAM is being paged onto the system RAM.
How much ya wanna bet 7000 series support comes when the quest 3 is launched.
good video❤❤❤
Many many thanks
I never hear mention which sdk your game is using. for ex, if one was playing onward from the oculus store, it's going to use the oculus sdk only, where ideally you would then use link. if you bought onward on steam it gives a choice choice to launch steamvr or oculus. if one chose steam, you'd then choose vd, otherwise link again. I'm sure you know this but just explaining it for others.
Big thanks to test AMD GPU for VR 👍
Do you think Quest 3 will be better with AMD GPU?
Looks like my 3070 is working better... 😕
I think it's going to depend on Meta coding their software to work correctly with Radeon 7000. Unless they do that I think it'll be the same story with Quest 3.
The RTX 3070 is a good GPU. I have a 3080ti and I get great performance with it using both Quest Link and Air Link. All the Nvidia GPU's I've tested have worked well, so it appears Meta has given preferential treatment to Nvidia GPU's and made sure Link works well with them.
@@Maraksot78 I think my next headset will not be a Quest...
@@Maraksot78Are these issues unique to the 7000 series? Would a 6700xt for example work fine with Air Link, or should Quest headset owners only be looking at nvidia gpus?
@npcharte I haven't tested a Radeon 6000 GPU in a couple of months, but the last time I did I tested the 6650XT, 6700XT and 6950XT in a few games and at that time they all ran just as good as the Nvidia GPU's I have.
@@Maraksot78 it could be interesting to test Rx7000 with an other headset than a meta one. Like a Pico on hp reverb g2 or a Pimax... You are our only hope 😅😎
all these issues is why i decided to spend an extra 50 and get a 4060 instead of a 7600 which really sucks because i actually dont want to support nvidias overpriced products but VR is what i mainly play which locked me to nvidia :(
As much as it pains me to go Nvidia, their VR is superior
I don't know about other headsets that use display port like the Rift S, Valve Index and others, but when it comes to using an encoded video stream like the Quest 2 Meta definitely seems to have prioritized Nvidia GPU's over AMD and Intel.
@@Maraksot78 Do you every plan to bench the 7700xt or 7800xt?
Into the Radius likes to just eat all the VRAM it can get, without making a difference in visuals or performance from around 8GB an above. the limit seems to be around 20 GB (on a rtx4090)
Wow! Crazy. I threw the 7900XTX back in today and started going back through several different games and monitoring the VRAM and frame buffer usage and I haven't tested Into the Radius yet but the other games that hit 7.8 and 7.9GB of VRAM usage on the 7600 have all exceeded the 8GB mark with the 7900XTX since it has 24GB of VRAM. The highest VRAM usage I've seen so far is in Assetto Corsa Competizione at 12.8GB. I used the exact same refresh rate, resolution and in game settings as I did with the 7600 too trying to see how much VRAM games would eat up. Games that had lower than 7GB VRAM usage on the 7600 have used a similar amount of VRAM on the 7900XTX, so depending on the game it's looking like the 8GB of VRAM is a limiting factor after all. With you saying Into the Radius will use up to 20GB now I'm super curious to see what it's going to do.
So rx 7600s is better to developing VR game with unreal engine? because i have task to make VR project with unreal engine 5
my gear VR is HTC vive
I know your probably not going to see this but when are you doing the 7800xt
I actually tried to buy a 7800XT shortly after they launched but they're all sold out everywhere unless you want to pay scalper prices, which I do not. It'll probably be a month or two before I'll be able to pick one up now but I did get a 7700XT and a 16GB RTX 4060ti so I'll have videos for those over the next few weeks. At the moment I'm trying to find out how much 8GB of VRAM is effecting VR gameplay, if at all? That's why I bought the 4060ti 16GB. I already have a 8GB model so I'm going to run them both at all the exact same settings in the exact same games and see how much of a difference, if any, 16GB of VRAM makes compared to 8GB on the same GPU.
i assume texture and geometry memory doesn't contribute to frame buffer memory, in fact i'd expect the frame buffer to always be fairly low unless there's a whole ton of post processing effects that store a lot of data specifically in the frame buffer, but i'm no expert. what i do know, is that games often have dynamic VRAM usage, and 7.9GB means you are VRAM limited, but you might not notice any performance issues, but texture and geometry streaming might be slow, moving quickly into uncached areas will reveal very low resolution textures or appropriate LOD models not loading quickly, because it's reaching back to the stored assets instead of memory.
you'd only really notice it if you're underbudget by a significant amount, 3/4 or half of the ideal VRAM, depending on how much the game loads when unconstrained, in extreme examples it might look and run totally fine even if you only have 1/4 of what the game expects.
i'm still not sure if 8GB is enough for me though, showing that these games are using up all of it might convince me to go for the 7600XT.
I have the same problem with my 6700xt gpu… I don’t know why but when I choose the h265 codec, the image gets streched in the right corner… Virtual desktop works fine tho😅
Yes! I've encountered that squeezing effect on the right side as well with AirLink. There is a way to eliminate it for awhile by deleting data.sqlite, data.sqlite-shm and data.sqlite-wal in C://users/"your user name"/AppData/Roaming/Oculus/sessions/101109065530671-199614412/ you do have to end OVR Redir, OVR Service Launcher and OVRServer_X64.exe in Task Manager first to be able to delete those data.sqlite files but after killing those processes and deleting those files when you start up the Oculus app and Launch AirLink that right side squeezing should be gone for awhile. It seems to come back after restarting the Oculus app 2 or 3 times. When using a Link Cable if I force h.265 with Radeon 7000 things go all wonky so I have to leave it on h.264 but as long as the encode resolution and bitrate is high enough things look just as good with h.264 as with h.265. But yes, Virtual Desktop just works. You don't have to mess around with all this other stuff. Not sure why one guy, Guy Godin, is able to get things to work well and Meta with their billions of dollars can't. XD
I’m getting a pc soon is the rtx 4060 with 7600 a good pair for Vr?
no
I'm thinking about getting the 7800xt but I'm okay with going for a nvidia 10 or 12gb vram card
I'm testing a PowerColor RX 7800XT Red Devil right now, have tested 6 of the 12 games I usually test and so far it's been stellar. I don't want to jinx anything by saying it, but I haven't had any problems at all with Oculus Link and game performance has been excellent. So far everything I've tested I've been able to play at 120Hz at 4704 X 2384 on High or Ultra Settings. It's blowing the 4060ti out of the water and giving the 4070ti a run for it's money. It doesn't quite perform up to the level of a 4070ti, but it also costs $300 less than a 4070ti so I'd say that's a win for the 7800XT. The only problem I've had is even when I set the render resolution in the Oculus app to 4704 x 2384 is the encode resolution defaults to 2016 x 1120 which looks kind of blurry. However I tried setting the encode width in the Oculus Debug Tool to both 3680 and 4096 and that sharpens things right up where they look really good. So yah, so far things are looking really good for the 7800XT. Hope to have a video out on it soon.
@@Maraksot78 Hello.I'm really looking forward to tests from you with 7800XT
@@viktork.2076 7800XT video is live on the channel now! 😁
😄😄👍
What version of meta software v55 and Pavlov was unplayable
I'm not 100% sure. It may have been V55. I have my Oculus app set to auto update and looking at it today it's now on V56.
Anybody know if 7000 series issue with Quest is resolved?
I haven't checked it out in a bit but here's how things were going and what I did to mitigate problems if you'd like to check the video out. ua-cam.com/video/Ypc58L-4yOM/v-deo.html
Hi would you recommend the 6750xt or rtx 3070ti for oculus link? Same price.
I haven't tested those GPU's personally, but looking at other benchmarks they're pretty close to eachother in terms of performance, so if they're the same price, I'd go with Nvidia if you're using a Quest 2 and Oculus Link/AirLink. Simply because there's less headaches overall with Nvidia cards and Quest Link/AirLink at the moment.
I have the 6750xt and a gtx 1080. I have had a lot of issues with the 6750xt and the oculus software, but it does run assetto corsa and project cars great. so I just use it for vr racing and use my 1080 for oculus games. So I would definitely recommend going with a nvidia card if your main focus is VR.
What about steam vr ? Will the amd card perform on steamvr better then oculus games?@@Chad_White
We Want Rx 7800 XT
So i can see is it good or just buy 4070 and get extra 200 dollar
(700)
(price in ksa)
7800xt VR benchmark? Please?
Working on it. 😉👍🏼
Its weird how pavlov runs bad on your system.
I sometimes have the same issue with my pc and its relatively high end
3060 Ti + 12600K with 16Gb of ram running at 3200mhz
in rare instances my frame rate would drop to 25-30 for no reason in pavlov and it would stay like this for a couple of minutes before going back to 80hz
i use a oculus Rift S
I've been looking more into the whole VRAM usage and Frame Buffer usage thing today and with you saying you have times when the frame rate craps out in Pavlov for seemingly no reason with a 3060ti (which is an 8GB card) I'm beginning to wonder if there are some games where 8GB isn't enough and Pavlov is one of them? I threw my 24GB RX 7900XTX back in my test PC today and Pavlov topped out at 11.2GB of VRAM usage with the Frame Buffer usage between 15 and 20%. The RX 7600 topped out at 7.8GB with frame buffer usage between 30 and 40%, so I'm beginning to think some of the problem is the 8GB of VRAM after all. For whatever reason the RX 7600 just freaked out more than the 4060ti did when I tested it. Still looking into it, but that's where things sit at the moment.
For the 7600 card's capabilities, perhaps 8gb is enough as one shouldn't t expect to be playing graphically demanding AAA vr games with high frame rates and ultra high settings with that cards specs. But more than 8gb is needed when turning up the settings and framerates. I started playing HL Alyx with settings maxed out on a 10gb rtx 3080 at high settings and was getting constant stuttering and dropped frames and also the the Vram was nearly maxed out. Once I upgraded to a 24gb rtx 3090 those framerate drops and stuttering were no longer there. Not because the rtx 3090 is much more powerful than a rtx 3080 (i think the difference is somethink like 15%) but because on the huge increase in VRAM.
Im not too educated on these things , but will a AMD radeon RX 7600 8g GDDR6 with a AMD Ryzen 5 7600 processor work with my meta quest 2 ? Please help ! Anyone !
yeah, it will.
when will you do a 7800 xt?
I tried to buy one today but it looks like they're pretty much sold out everywhere right now. It may be a month or two but I hope to get one at some point to test out. Just FYI, I buy all the GPU's I test. I don't get any for free like the big Tech UA-camrs do.
@@Maraksot78 I bought one a few days ago and they cancelled my order I can buy one but for 200 more
I have 6gb of vram and run vrchat just fine (i cant afford actual games)
pavlov has had issues for sometime even on my RTX 3060
I've been looking more into the whole VRAM usage and Frame Buffer usage thing today and with you saying you have times when the frame rate craps out in Pavlov for seemingly no reason with a 3060 (I'm assuming you have an 8GB card and not a 12GB card?) I'm beginning to wonder if there are some games where 8GB isn't enough and Pavlov is one of them? I threw my 24GB RX 7900XTX back in my test PC today and Pavlov topped out at 11.2GB of VRAM usage with the Frame Buffer usage between 15 and 20%. The RX 7600 topped out at 7.8GB with frame buffer usage between 30 and 40%, so I'm beginning to think some of the problem is the 8GB of VRAM after all. For whatever reason the RX 7600 just freaked out more than the 4060ti did when I tested it. Still looking into it, but that's where things sit at the moment.
@@Maraksot78 Im on a laptop (srry forgot to mention that. its 5am 😅) so my 3060 has 6gb (130w) but it runs otjer games fine. I do use Dash killer from github and only use steam vr, and i only use oculus dash when i wanna play bartender vr or pavlov. Beside that, without oculus dash, link runs so much better. atleast for me that is. im not saying its perfect, ther isnt a way to exit vr for example, becasue ita made in a way that bypasses dash and open steam vr and every time u close steam vr it detects it and opems it agaim. beside that i has been a gamechanger for me. it uses less vram (specially important for me) and gives me more procevssing headroom over all too + steam has fpsvr and xsoberlays whish are awesome. I could get into more detail if you want me to
I just realized how many spelling errors i have on the reply. damn 😂😂😂 I swear my english skills are better than that. I study in eng in university so it has to 😅
7800 xt next?
I looked into buying one but they're sold out everywhere, so it'll probably be a month or two before I can get one now. I did pick up a 7700XT though and a 16GB RTX 4060ti so I can compare VRAM usage between it and the 8GB 4060ti and see just how much having more VRAM benefits a GPU. Since it's the exact same GPU just with more VRAM we should see exactly how much benefit there is to the additional VRAM and if 8GB of VRAM is indeed limiting performance in games or not.
It's a shame thay meta don't care about pcvr. I haven't had any major issues with my 7900xtx with rift s. But that's wired displayport connection.
Yah, the problems have to do with the encoded video stream for the Quest 2. Virtual Desktop seems to have it figured out though. Not sure what Meta's deal is?
all the issue, i don't think meta will even bother to fix it , cause they really don't care about pc vr anymore, sadly
Nah everyone hates airlink , is so bad for all pcs
I love AirLink. Wireless VR is the best IMO. AirLink works great with my personal setup, but I also have a RTX 3080ti and an Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 WiFi 6 gaming router which helps. The more testing I do with GPU's other than Nvidia's though the more I'm finding why everyone praises Virtual Desktop so much. AirLink likes Nvidia cards but doesn't work nearly as well with AMD and Intel cards. Virtual Desktop on the other hand, doesn't seem to prioritize one GPU manufacturer over another and works with pretty much any GPU.
@Maraksot78 maybe 🤔 at my set up VD works for me, airlink always looks like i am under water
For me:
Conclusion:
Don't buy AMD for PCVR, for Rendering and for a lot of other things.