VW ID.4 | Test Drive and Review
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The Volkswagen ID.4. A family SUV designed to cater for the mass market, but is there a little magic sprinkled in too? See if the ID.4 is worth considering as your next car with a full review inside and out.
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Good to see you back!
Good to see you back Ryan, an interesting review.
Welcome back Ryan, great review.
Welcome back Ryan. Great review as ever.
Ah Ryan, good to see you.
Just 10 grand too expensive.
Always a good day when an EV Opinion vid pops up in the feed. Thanks Ryan, hope to see you back again soon!
More things I can't afford. but I like to dream.
I am also partial to the yellow one.
We're all waiting a few years for the used EV market to develop. And we won't have the ever increasing ICE repair costs as they age.
Great review Ryan. The fly test is a new one! It’s a similar story with the ID3. I test drove one before the last lockdown and it felt just like a VW. Nothing outrageous, but just a good car. A few weeks back my parents phoned to say they were thinking about buying one. They bought without test driving. I just know they will appreciate that car and the range and performance will be something new for them. And TBH whilst there are some interior question marks, the lower down the range you go the better value it feels. Certainly the ID3 Pro Performance Life model was available at one point for £26k, which is still a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of things felt like good value. VW have moved their prices up a little on the lower models, probably because there’s a bigger jump because of the changes in the EV grant.
Very informative video Ryan, well done ✅
Genuinely good to see and hear Ryan presenting again. You have been missed and I still owe you a coffee. Hope you and your family are well.
Interestingly insightful review. I’m surprised by VW iD4 First Edition Spec for UK when you check other European country editions. The amount of EVs coming should keep you busy reviewing. Take care, best to you all.
Thanks Mike. It’s nice to be back out and about again.
Glad to see you back Ryan. Hope you get to do more reviews as time permits in your schedule, love to know what you think of the Skoda Enyaq which is based on the ID.4.
Thank you. It’s good to be back. If I can get hold of a Skoda I’ll definitely review it 👍
Got to be honest I like the outside but not the two tone brown interior!. I would have to specify black. There are lots of reports of software bugs on these and the Id3. I would love to see a head to head with the Mach e. I am going to wait for the ioniq 5 or ev 6 because I think they will blow you away for the same price!
Blimey, where have you been and glad your back....
Great to see you back, Ryan! Love your energy and enthusiastic reviews, and this is a good one! Interesting fly trick at the end. Hope to see more of you and the family soon.
It's a lovely car, hopefully better versions of it are coming?
The door tops (as far as I know) are cheap plastic and so are some other areas that you would touch quite often. That cheap plastic on the outside....... Hopefully, as with the Golf etc, VW or an OEM, will release bumper/fender material in metal or at least body coloured plastics! And no frunk/froot......... Imagine the long trip with your family and their luggage and you suddenly need a charge, if you can't find a tethered connector you're digging around in the back!
As Ryan says, it does everything well! But I was hoping for more from the ID range. I was wanting it to be almost perfect............ Like the Golf!
All new VW products have gone this way now. The no knobs Media and HVAC is also a no no. After owing three Golf's no more for me unfortunately.
@@nickhickson8738 I get what you're saying. I'm still driving my Mk5. I tried a Mk7 when it came out, which I mostly loved, but it didn't feel as good as driving the older Mk5 - being over 6ft I also didn't like the less headroom! Setting my sights on a GTE, but VW really pee'd me off with the emissions scandal! Also don't like the way everything comes as an option nowadays - although it was the same with the Mk5, there's so many more of them these days!
Yea!!! Very glad to have you back!!!
Always nice to see you back Ryan and please do more. However i kinda felt i was watching a video in 1.25 or .1.5 speed. I'll be visiting RMC when it is open hope to see you there.
Yes. I’m looking forward to visiting the new cave 👍
Very solid review Ryan. You touch on the good and not so good points that definitely provide a clear understanding what a new buyer can expect.
Great to see you doing reviews as your points and way of presenting has always been fun and relatable.
Thank you 😁👍
Great balanced review Ryan. Love the ID.4💃💃
Nice video Ryan. I hope the Mrs doesn’t hear the comment about not being blown away. Haha.
😂
Great review. Nice to see you back, Ryan. 100% dead on about the VW ID4. It does what it is designed to do - take you where you want to go without being flashy. They just need to paint the rest of the car.
I really like the look of the id4,wasn’t sure about the rear window selector,but in hindsight it’s a good idea as don’t know about you but many times I’ve accidentally lowered the rear windows,instead of the front.
I also like the id3,think these both should sell well,not to in your face.
Great to see you back,great video.
Sincerely great to have you back, Ryan.
Marvellous video. Maybe, just maybe, there could be more regular uploads..?
Maybe 😉
@@EVOpinion Coffee and chat?
Yay! Ryan is back! Do you still have your Leaf? Any chance of some more regular posts?
Thanks Ben. I do still have my Leaf. 75000 miles now! I’ll do an update soon.
Great video and great to see you back
Both ID4 and ID3 looks better in the flesh than the video/photo.
5:28 There's no front storage under the hood because the added weight ahead of the front axle will make the vehicle a nose-heavy FWD vs tail-happy RWD handling vehicle. No frunk means shorter F&R overhangs.
17:20 The "Coasting" or "Creep" mode applies Newton's 1st law to the fullest. It's easier and less energy to accelerate a vehicle while still in motion than from rest.
You forgot to mention the small turning radius of the ID.4 vs other EVs
Welcome back. We’ve missed you
Nice car, nice presentation.
I always enjoy your video's which proved very helpful during the early days and led to me buying my LEAF in 2019. Aside from lockdowns and reduced journeys etc, I don't think I would ever go back to a petrol or diesel engined car. BTW, did you replace your LEAF with the MG, if so how about giving us a long term review please?
Once again Ryan, thank you for your excellent reviews and how-to videos.
I like many things about it very, very much indeed: the ID Light is just ingenious, for example. But much of what really makes this car great (and it is) comes from the MEB platform underneath it and, as so often happens, they've given it to Skoda,.... who've done it better.
I like the ID.4. I want the Enyaq.
The enyak is longer, and a bit more expensive, like for like.
Hmmm, Brussels sprouts are my favourite! Welcome back!
Ha! I knew somebody would say that😁
I dont think Ive seen those climate controls in other reviews. Super cool.
Good to see you again.
Great to see you Ryan You are doing better with the car than sandy Munro in the USA you tuber
VW's next car ad:
"The new Volkswagen ID.4 - you'll love it so much you'll want to marry it!"
I wondered is they’ll give me a fee???😂
@@EVOpinion I hope so. Don't forget my cut! 🤑🤣
Thanks for the ride! I think you've described it very well -- the girlfriend you bring home to mom, being very impressed without being blown away. I've got a (refundable) deposit on one, but may hold off until I can test the Kia EV6 and (ideally) the 2-motor AWD ID.4 -- though I expect that one won't handle as well because of the extra weight, and will lose precious range. Thanks again.
Very good honest review 👍
Thank you
Great review chap
Good review, food for thought
Saw a grey one recently and all the grey plastic, just blended in. So if the buyer doesn’t want to see the cheap looking plastic trims, they should go with dark grey. Think the 4 is better looking than the 3. But that two-tone brown interior… what were they thinking? Perhaps they were after a car nobody would want to nick.
Another great video! Thanks
Thanks Jon
I would take the white! Looks cool and the biggest advantage if you’ve kids... you won’t see that much scratches. Dirt you can clean, scratches not! ;)
Guess who's back!! Great car, however think the upcoming Nissan SUV will trump it.
Hmm the top version for the UK 1st. edition ID.4 seems to be a low/mid trim in Europe. Even the lights seem to be the same as the base trim over here
Great review. 👍
Nice, though I’m not sure how my 70yr old dad would get on with the infotainment screen. Can we have an update on you Leaf, I’d love to know how it’s going?
Yes👍. I am thinking of doing an update soon 😁
@@EVOpinion great, I miss your old vlog style videos, appreciate they take a fair bit of effort, and there probably is only so much that you can say before you run out of ideas, but they were good. 👍
Peoples car, just like the name would suggestI saw one yesterday same colour driving in West Dorset near Dorchester it looked nice for an SUV. :) I'm waiting for a polo equivalent (id2) to see what that's like ,though I might go for the SEAT or Cupra equivalent for the slightly more interesting / sporty styling because I'm still a teenager at heart ( a middle aged one) and don't need a family car lol ;-)
They could have put two more window switches where the rear button is🤦♂️
Great Video.
Firs Edition Package all get grey panels, others get black plastic
If I Didn't know about the Model "Y" , Yea
No negative comments on the infotainment system? Seems to be a flaw with other reviewers.
Indeed. The time I had with it I found good. I’m always happy to criticise infotainment systems in cars as I think they are wasting their time designing their own when they could just use a tried and tested platform like android. That said it was OK in this car and I did t have any of the issues others have had but that’s not to say they won’t crop up.
just wondering have you taken delivery of your second EV?
Not yet. Sticking with the Leaf for now 😁👍
@@EVOpinion I took delivery of a 30kwh leaf in Jan and love it.
Great quality and love the heated seats!
But what about those efficiency figures - let's face it, they aren't great!
Yes, the Front looks right, but that Back end is a mess. Brussel Sprouts are much neater. #ID4 For the “Larger Family” who have OutGrown #ID3 because they drive everywhere and need an oversized #EV Never walk, cycle or exercise. And are used to seeing “rolls of fat” on their backside.
MG HS PHEV PLEASE, !
I have noticed something, which is more interesting than it seems at first...2:00 the taillights are not the same as in the rest of Europe!!
This is how i know them from Germany : ua-cam.com/video/k9iCBZ9hqwY/v-deo.html
They have this quite clever and good looking design, this version look a bit more boring in comparison.
But why is it interesting ?
all of Europe except GB and Ireland have the other taillights...and the taillights in the video are the same as in the US!!
Also Europe has a real light bar between the headlights, the US has not( because of US regulations), The British Isles also have the US-fake light-bar. So either for the sake of cost-cutting, complying with regulations or both you get different taillights depending if you live in an English speaking country or not.
The primary reason for it, i suspect is that, VW wants to hide the fact that they have different taillights and keep the buyers in the US ignorant abuot the fact that they got worse looking ones, so Americans watching British Car You tubes could jeopardize their plan. One Language- One Car Design.
The following is just my theory, but true would be really interesting....
Right now the ID.4 is only produced in Chemnitz and Dresden, both Germany and in two factories in China (only for the Chinese market). But this changes quite soon, besides more factories in Germany, which is not that interesting from 2022 onward the ID.4 will also be produced in Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA.
So that would make the British and Irish markets the only ones in Europe with the other taillight design....which could mean that the cars sold there will be made in USA?
As far as i know, the production cost in the factory in Tennessee are not that high, likely lower than in Germany. So even it makes zero sense from a geographical perspective,maybe it makes sense from an economic one.
A strengthening of US-GB economic relations are the most likely result of Brexit, so maybe VW is hoping on low British import tariffs for US-made cars ?? (Ireland is less significant as a market...so the tariffs there are not that interesting).
This is just speculation, the ID.4s could still be coming out of Germany and keeping 2 different sets of taillights in stock does complicate the production that much and is a negligible cost increase.
Thank you for listening to my TED.talk
Great insight into your thoughts. Thank you 😁👍
You didn't seem to have any problems with the infotainment system being buggy or laggy. Could it be that they have managed to fix it?
During the day I had it there were no issues. Sometimes things get blown out of proportion on social media. I’m not saying there aren’t issues but I can only report as I find. 😁👍
The perfect wife who will drive you round the bend 😂
😂😂😂
Thank-you for the video, Ryan, and it's great to hear from you again.
With apologies, however, I have to disagree with you on a few important points:
First off, it's yet _another_ SUV, in a sea of the things. What's wrong with an estate or even a saloon?
Then there are the looks; it's _hideously_ ugly, and seems to have been thrown together by a teenager who has been let loose on a CAD suite for the first time. It has bits tacked on everywhere, and the front view manages to be somehow much worse than the fat rear end.
Next, there's that clashing dirty brown, all over the interior, which is clashing with the rather smart grey upholstery. Frankly, it looks as if a baby has had an accident with chocolate (or worse) all over it. Maybe grandma would like the beige/tan highlights, but my wife saw it and vocalised my thoughts: 'Yeuk!'.
In addition, for what is a relatively expensive car, it has far too many instances of VW trying to distract our eyes away from the cheap and nasty compromises. In fact, you alluded to that with your observations of the front and rear ends. But it continues into the cabin. And the glove box is almost as bad as the one in a RHD Zöe.
Sure, it has some fine redeeming features, including the comfortable seating - especially in the back - and the feeling of spaciousness, large boot, the quiet ride, good visibility, etc. but, to make use of your analogy, I would be embarrassed to be seen with a girlfriend with looks and colour sense such as hers. I certainly wouldn't want to introduce her to my parents! Especially if her initials were VW.
I also get the distinct impression that you're trying very hard to talk up the car throughout the review, maybe to please your sponsor, not least because you ran out of positive things to say about the vehicle.
On a positive note, you're quite correct about the white attracting a menagerie of insects. It might be something to do with it reflecting Ultra Violet much more than the darker coloured vehicles. White also highlights dirt, dings and blemishes very effectively.
Boring as all hell, same as the Enyaq. Ioniq 5 or EV6 any day of the week
The new Koreans are not actually in the same price range and have quite a different audience, they are more car lover's cars instead of the no-nonsense practical family SUV. That's not a bad thing but the difference is there, and remember that most people don't give a toss about cars, they just want them to work well on every aspect.
@@davidsommen1324 ID4 is £40k, Enyaq is £40k (the base one £32 sure), EV6 is £40k and Ioniq5 is £45k for the Project 45 special edition so the standard trim likely to be £40k so why are they not in the same price range?
It doesn't qualify for government grant anymore, so nearly £41,000. Hugely overpriced, mid-spec 'first edition'.
Like every other brands... All over priced
WB
Hey look! Guess what!?
Another expensive electric car...
Vanilla design; disappointing
Are you a "ugly tesla spaceship" car fan??????
I think I’m alright looking 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know what did you have against MG ZS EV as this 95% an MG... SPECIALLY since MG main manufacture in china is manufacturing 40% of VW parts...
Everything you said about quality build is same but you pay less for the badge compare to MG.
Also you get hell of a lot more features if you get the MG.battery and range is better on id4 but same 0-60mls in 8s .
Same size cabin and room
Same design ( in terms of cheap and good quality in outside and inside)
People basically paying for badge.
Whoever wants to buy this and not looking for a badge i suggest to have test drive with MG Ev open minded and experience and then pay their hard earned cash to what they really think is better for them
I thought this was a review of the ID.4? I'd agree about open mind, but it's a stretch to say this is 95% an MG. If we're splitting hairs it's a stretch to say that MG these days is 95% an MG. That's a viewpoint coming from someone who at one point simultaneously owned an MG Midget, MGB GT, and MGF. However, we know how fast things can change. Look at how far Kia have come since I had a 2005 Carens as a company car. Once people start to see how new MG's hold up over time then I think opinions will change.
Mostly agreed...
But he in MG review said and complained a lot about plasticity bits in MG and those exactly same place here on id4 .. but in car over £40Grand this was not an issue for him but for £25Grand car these were issue... 95% i meant the design choice ..like were to use cheap plastic and were to use better material.. which more or less same as what MG ZS EV choosen.
Anyway i never believed we should compare a £25G car with over £40G car.. but MG ZS EV is mostley comparable with cars below £40G... and it is more forgivable if they cut from some material as it is way cheaper.
We should not forget for the price of 1 id4 we can almost buy 2 MG ZS EV . That's what make it a good car compare to much expensive car... for the most part you pay for the badge rather than actual quality...
I have driven id3 for few weeks and alreafy own MG ZS EV . 90% quality are same , and same choice of material inside and outside but much much more features in MG ZS EV... IF ID4 comes with same features as MG ZS EV EXCLUSIVE version it will be over £50G i believe
@@miladshahrestani1349 It’s been some time after that MG review and I know there were a lot of different opinions about that particular review. It could be nice for Ryan to go back to the MG after this gap and see if he feels the same way, especially as you said, after VW releasing cars with some similar materials. I’m sure I heard that the hard plastic contributed in some way to carbon 0 production of the VW cars, but would have to look it up. Worth one of Ryan’s coffee and chats, surely? In any case I’m glad Ryan’s back doing some reviews again.
VW salesman review.
I’ve seen quite a few reviews along the same lines. Bjorn Tesla seems quite keen on it.
I’m no salesman 😳. I think this is the first VW I’ve reviewed. Just my opinion 👍
Good to see you back!
Good to see you back!