🛒 Jackery 1000 Plus: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/products/jackery-explorer-1000-plus?ref=TheSolarLab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order • Jackery: shrsl.com/4dwvz 🛒 We Recommend Shopping At: • Signature Solar: signaturesolar.com/?ref=thesolarlab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB50 • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/?ref=TheSolarLab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order Over $2,000 ☀ Calculate Solar Panel Cost for your House: www.solar-estimate.org/solar-calculator?aff=207512&cam=750 🔔 Subscribe to our UA-cam Channel: @TheSolarLab Jackery... What re you doing!? It doesn't mater what Jackery unit your are trying to buy, if you purchase an older style Jackery Power Station - you are getting scammed! There is no way these old units should be sold at the same price as their new power stations with LiFePO4 battery chemistry. ⚡ FOLLOW US: instagram.com/thesolarlab/ www.tiktok.com/@thesolarlab 👨🏼💻 The Solar Lab: www.thesolarlab.com We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
Will you ever test the Titan generators from Point Zero Energy, and show just how good they really are compared to these High frequency units, especially the 240 sp. Show people the truth, about low frequency, compared to high frequency generators
I live in Georgia and we just dealt with hurricane Helena, My jackery 500 collapsed it won't even do nothing anymore just yesterday it got sent back to jackery thankfully it's under a 3 year warranty and I was only in year 2
I just bought the explorer 1000v2 which has the handle and a LiFePO4 battery stating 4000 cycles to 70%+ capacity... Paid $649 with solar panel at Lowes...
Omg thank you for telling me this!!! I just couldn’t understand why the newer version was only $100 difference and I just kept thinking something was wrong. Thank you for clearing that up!!
Reminds me of the time (a few lifetimes ago) when a high school friend got fired from his job at a now-defunct famous major retailer for refusing to put a big "SALE!" sign on a lawnmower than had just had its price *increased* by about $20.
I bought the older model years ago on jackery's once a year sale price, and it has worked flawlessly for 7 years, no issues. The price tag is high, but still was a lot cheaper than the Ecoflow Delta (which is better overall). It does take a long time to charge, but I am happy overall with it
The lithium ion Jackery Explorer 1000 is 22.04 lbs. The lifepo4 Jackery 1000 v2 is 23.8 lbs. They have comparable battery capacity, but the v2 has 50% more power output. The difference in weight is only 8%, it's very minimal.
@@diySolarPowerFunWithRay The 1000 Plus has nearly 1.3x the capacity and 2x the output, of course it weighs more, it's not a remotely similar product. The Jackery 1000 v2 has similar capacity to the Jackery 1000, only with lifepo4, and is nearly the same weight.
Lithium Ion refers to all different kinds of lithium chemistries, including LifePo4 chemistry, and NMC. Both LifePo4 and NMC still use lithium ion transfer as a means for providing power. The older Jackery uses NMC chemistry cells, which certainly have their place. Higher energy density for their weight, something I have use for. For my use case, I'd actually opt for the NMC version, being that it is more compact, lighter, and I won't be cycling it much. NMC is the same chemistry used in things like your phone, tablets, and other portable devices as it offers a higher energy density than LifePo4.
Well said, thanks for posting. This guy is acting like he knows wtf he's talking about, and he knows next to nothing. The giveaway is when he refers to the old as lithium ion and the new as LFP, right in the beginning.🤦
Jackery has so many recent complaints on Amazon for shipping problems and customer service problems, for shipping used, beat-up items as “new” items (is that why Jackery runs these “flash” sales? To dump their used inventory onto an unsuspecting public?)
For people who use these for power outages, they may only use them 5-10 times per year. In that case, calendar aging is more important. I wonder how that compares for the two battery types.
Calendar life is 2-3 times as long, in theory. It is jackery though so it probably wont last. The one and only unit i bought from them was broken on arrival and they are making it extremely difficult to get my money back or even send a replacement. Thet wont even send me the return label. They keep dragging their feet.
Thanks for pointing this out. That is disappointing that they wouldn't just do a clearance sale to get rid of the old-style products. That would be the more ethical and respectable thing for a business to do, given the situation.
If you were buying in case of an emergency, I get why it wouldn't matter so much. I'm an avid overlander who, unfortunately, needs reliable power for a CPAP machine, so the benefits of the plus model make a big difference! Either way, get the 5 year protection plan. Take care of yourself, whatever that means to you!
Also most of these all in one power stations wont be working in 5 years if you use it often. Over-complicated tech with lots electronics that can fail with this type of application. So the battery cycle life might not be the main concern. I think from a safety standpoint all current lithium battery technology is a fire hazard although LiFePO4 is slightly safer. I would not want old any lithium batteries in my place.
My daughter works for a global construction company. She told me that none of her coworkers wear luxury goods. They seem to focus on the kislux high-quality small boutique companies that make goods cheaper than the iconic luxury brands. There are lots of options. If you don't want to pay those high prices, there are a lot of great bags for just a few hundred dollars, not thousands.
I suppose there's a use for those little boxes. What I don't like is how so many of the companies selling them imply you can run your house on them for days and days. There's only so many amp hours in the box and you only get to use them once before you have to recharge.
Throw a solar panel outside and run your cord into the house to charge the battery box. Our energy efficient / large capacity deep freezer would run forever on that if necessary. Not with the Jackery 1000 but another unit with 3,000kwh. Even considering a cloudy day or rainy day we would still get bye. If you’re charging with grid power then there is no point to using it. Van life / outdoor life makes sense. For home backup these units are too small!
Yeah I ran the calcs and the 5000 WH model would run my house for about a day using the bare minimum (fridge, freezer, furnace). Last power outage we were out for 4 days.
@@snorman1911 Yup. A day is good but depending on your scenario may not be near enough. It was that way for me when I lived in the country. The power may be back on in a day, or it may be a week. If it's winter refrigeration isn't a problem so that's a saving. But you do need to keep that furnace running. Dad had a little gas powered generator installed in the shop that was enough for the basics. And a bigger PTO driven generator if we needed to run more equipment.
I don't think anyone is being scammed. They have stock to shift and then it's gone leaving only the updated version. I agree though that they should put the LION battery model on sale, it's only fair now.
Thank you, as you say most people wouldn’t know that. I ordered Jackery EU1000v2, ir hasn’t arrived yet but am thinking about returning it before unboxing it. I am starting to find a few more videos like tis one and the more I see the less trust I have in Jackey. Now, back to my continued research to try and decide on a better option.
Jackery Sucks: I recently purchased two Jackery Explorer 1000 v2, and one 200-watt solar panel. With one of the power stations, if I want to run my 550-watt window air conditioner the power station turns off when the AC compressor turns on. This is NOT supposed to happen, and I can't find out online what the problem is. The second power station doesn't have this problem. I've had the power stations and 200-watt solar panel for only one month, having used it around 10 times, and one of the two kickstands is already beginning to break off; I'm guessing it's because I live in central Arizona and the plastic fold can't handle high summer heat -- the kickstand fold is up at the top where it's exposed to sunlight/heat whereas other brands have this fold lower so it's in a shadow. I'm also unhappy that there is no kickstand in the center of the panel, only on the ends, because when set up the center always sags and doesn't face the sun the same way as the ends do, so you need to use something to prop the center up; I use a cynder block. Lastly, the two-prong connector to the solar panel is extremely finicky because after connecting the cable to the power station it often registers as 0 watts input, so after going out and fiddling with the two-prong connection to the solar panel about ten times it will finally work properly; the connector to the solar panel should be some sort of click-on attachment rather than loose fitting since that end of the cable cord is always bent/curved at the connection point! Customer support gave me a lousy 5% refund on this solar panel. I later contacted their marketing department (with photo of breaking kickstand) since I have a UA-cam channel and plan to make a review of this product, and never received a reply from them, so now I'm going to make a harshly critical video about this power station and the solar panel. My advice is to purchase other brands like Bluetti or Oupes because you cannot use other solar panels with a Jackery -- Jackery makes everything proprietary so that you're stuck using only their overpriced solar panels and cables/connectors!
@@desislayer8790 no personally I like the Ecoflow delta pro a lot better. Two of them can run your whole house and you can use any solar pannel and connect them to the eco flow delta pro’s. It’s alittle more expensive but I’d start with 1 eco flow delta pro and buy 2-3 400 watt solar panels witch will get you about 1200 watts of solar charging and be able to charge the 1 battery you have effectively until you get another battery. The two batteries connected together can power a 240v washer and dryer or any 240v appliances
ive only ever bought one unit. it was the explorer 1000 v2. it arrived broken and they claimed theyd send a return label, but never did. So i call and ask why they havent sent me my return label and they just keep dragging their feet. Avoid jackery if you want to keep your sanity. How can i trust their products to be reliable if my one and only unit arrived broken. I cant even trust them to make it right because they are a scummy company. One of their customer service reps pretended to hangup for well over a minute, probably hoping id hang up. The whole situation is ridiculous.
Jackery should take action. What is left of their reputation is at stake. Sells them for 30-40% of the old list and clear them out as they still have some utility. Or give them to the people in NC and Florida who need power sources right now.
“Scam” is pretty harsh. There’s also a new 1000 v2 out now. All three are on sale right now…and Jackery products go on sale frequently anyway. I already bought (at the intro sale price) and use the new v2 and only bought the NMC 1000 about a year and half ago (on sale). I’m happy with the v2 so far, and you guys should review that one too. I think any of the 3 are a great value at the current sale prices. I do not own the Plus version. Almost got it…and probably would’ve if not for the v2.
Yep, but putting scam in the title gets more views. I do not like this trend, and sadly, we are contributing to it by just commenting. I guess I will put these guys on my do not watch list. Downvotes even contribute to "engagement". The only thing to combat it is not to watch, but you need to watch to realize the title is baiting.
i have the older one which i love and has lasted about 4 years with no issues but my only gripe about the battery is that without completely disassembling the battery you don't have access to the positive and negative terminals which i really wish was possible since most any project requiring a large dc amount is going to be over 10 amps
Good heads up. I don't mind if someone uses a cheaper battery as long as it includes a lower price. You can debate if it is worth the savings or not. I rarely use batteries, so I'm OK with not paying more for thousands of cycles. It's definitely a scam if you charge the same price for a cheaper battery just because you know that many people won't realize that it won't last as long.
Today is November 13, 2024 and the 1000 v2 is listed at $459 on Amazon…and there’s a $60 coupon. I had some Amazon points that I’ve been saving up for a few weeks so I ended up paying, after tax, $328….not too damn bad.
Glad you are calling Jackery out on this. Just purchased a highly rated and evaluated Pecron LiFePO4 unit for $0.43 a watt hour and has a 5 year warranty. Just used it on my week long camping trip bouncing in the back of my off-road camper. Worked great.
@AlternativePower903 oh I didn’t consider the weight. Now that combined with the fact that this unit will have probably 1/3 the life of the LiFePO4 unit makes it worth it. NOT!
Thanks for the info! I hadn't realized that Jackery is doing Li-ion-Phos batteries. I was shying away from their brand because I didn't want a Li-ion battery system.
The SCAM is the limited capacity of the battery for that price. I just bought two 100 AH LFP batteries, a 2000 watt PSW inverter, a 50 amp charger, a box to put it in, and a status monitor, connectors, etc for under $500. Way more capability and capacity that that $1000 wallet drain.
Nobody is buying the 1000 for $999. Retail is $599 and they go on sale for $549 or $499 regularly. The 1000 plus retailed originally for $1699 and sales for $799-999 regularly. There is also 1000 pro which is priced between the two models.
Yea these power stations from all the brands are regularly half off or have a huge coupon. The one I just got normally 999 but 40% of then has a 9% coupon that can be applied
You also have to take into consideration the poor performance of LiFePO4 in cold weather climates. It's well known that below 35°F, they don't charge well (or at all) and at temperatures below that, if you try and use them, you're dramatically reducing their life span
Wow, Thank you SO MUCH for this public service announcement!!! I was about to choose the old version, because that is what I was seeing in all the reviews!
Li-FePO4 is a trade-off versus Li-ion, not an upgrade. Yes, they have more cycles and are a bit safer, but they also have less energy density. I charge my Jackery 500 once a month, so 500 cycles will last me 40 years. I don't need the new chemistry to increase that to 300 years. I carry these 15+ lbs. power stations everywhere, so I want the lowest weight and I don't care about the number of cycles.
Less density just means that the same battery in watt hours is slightly bigger for the lifepo4. Big deal. There is ZERO benefit to buying a lithium ion battery vs a lifepo4 battery. ZERO!
@@Chris-jt7xgget real. There is ZERO benefit in buying a lithium ion battery over a lifepo4 battery. That’s why ALL of the manufacturers have switched to lifepo4.
I use a CPAP machine to sleep and having a jackery has been a lifesaver when our power gets shutoff due to high winds. The 240 model gives me two nights of peaceful sleep before it needs to be recharged. And the solar panel they sell works great to charge the battery.
Regardless of fine print or location of the details of a item in the specs, if Jackery lists the battery "type" of each unit, it's not shady. It's up to consumers to do their homework before purchasing. Being dishonest as a buisness however, would infact be shady. Bread listed as 100% whole wheat bread is very different from bread that's dyed brown and called "wheat bread."
I used my first winnings to buy a canvas LV and in less than two years the wallet was cracked/broken in multiple places and the store refused to repair or replace it. I don't know what kind of resale value such junk could have. I ended up donating it...well, maybe I might buy a fake LV from kislux but these designers/robber barons don't even think about taking another penny from me.
Thanks ! i Had no idea the Life cycles were sooo different between the 2 battery chemistry's. Wow !!! Thank You Very Much for Making this Short & To the Point video !!!
I got a 500w Jackery, old design, about 5 years ago. I think I've charged it like under 10 times. It holds the charge until I use it, and it's still doing the same job whenever I need it. Which is not very often granted. No regrets though. They should drop the price, you're right for making the video. If I were getting one today, I wouldn't have known the difference.
The 1000 and 1000 Plus are no longer the same price. The Plus is $200 more, although both are on sale right now. And there's also a 1000 v2 which is cheaper than the 1000 and has less surge power output than the 1000 even though it has the same capacity. I bought an Ecoflow, though. The Jackery only comes with an AC power cable. The Ecoflow comes with multiple cables including AC, car charging and solar to connect to my existing portable solar panel. And it was on sale as well because of Amazon Prime day. But I didn't have to be a Prime member to buy it directly from the manufacturer at the sale price.
The scam is the thing will break well well well before battery chemistry differences ever become an issue. And jackery will refuse to repair it, even if you offer to pay for the repair. THe whole thing gets thrown out. No replacement parts are available and Jackery won't repair
Mine (authentic) also has a smell inside! I don't know what's going on because none of my other products have the smell of the kislux bag. Called LV and they said it is normal and I can wipe the inside with a damp cloth. I thought the lining was suede but it's actually microfiber so I'm going to look for ways to remove the microfiber smell because the smell is keeping me from using it often.
The scam for me was buying one in the first place. I have never fully discharged my 500 jackery. Its too weak to cook from it, wont power an air conditioner. Charges phones ok and runs my string lights.
The lithium iron phosphate batteries are cheaper for them to buy. They make more money off you when you buy the lithium iron phosphate. Unless they spent more money on the other parts and then it's a wash. The older lithium ion is lighter for the same capacity. 500 cycles would be 5 years of using it 50 weekends a year draining it each day you use it.
I bought the jackery 500 for like 300 bucks on Black Friday idk if it’s still a lose in the long run. I never use it but plan on having it for camping / power outage scenarios which happen very rarely
Wish I'd known this 2 days ago when I got the tiny Explorer 240, but I did get it on clearance for 1/3rd off so $200AU. I plan to use it with a small car fridge when it's not running off the cars power so at most it would run overnight. And I won't be using it daily for a year so still expect to get a long life from it.
500 cycles until 80% capacity. Considering that this is for camping, which most people won't do every single day of the year, the old one will probably last for 10 years as well. And it isn't as heavy. I've been using my Jackery 500 for two years now - and it hasn't shown any sign of reduced capacity so far.
Harbor Freight still has older version on their site and in store. I steered away from it due to old battery technology. If they improved battery may consider new version.
I just got an ANKER Solix C1000. Granted, it is only 1050WH instead of Jackery's 1264WH, but for only 200WH less I paid only $479 for my power station that will also go 10 years, and also has a 2400 watt output instead of the Jackery's 2000. I also have 2 of the Anker 300 watt power stations. I use them for powering video lights on film shoots. A much better buy than buying a power unit and expensive V-mount batteries that can only be used for the lights. I can use my power stations for other things as well. I will be using the Solix C1000 for my lights too, as well as for power outages.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos - My daughter (Teacher) and son-in-law (Professor) have several Anker power banks that they have used for years with their electronics and have had zero problems. Same as their colleagues. This is one of several things that steered me towards Anke. Also, a guy who reviewed a current model brought out his 10 year old model as well, which still worked like new. That was a big one as well. I've had my first 300 watt unit for going on 3 years now and it is flawless. Granted, that's not a lot of time either. The other 2 units I just got this year.
Thanks for sharing I bought the explorer EX 1500 at Costco 6 months ago for $1300. Costco said I had to deal with jackery so jackery is replacing my explorer 1500. I asked the jackery technician on the phone why they are not selling these anymore. He said it's old technology no wonder I got such a good deal on it. Buyer beware
Hello, are these power stations (the bigger ones over 3.2kWh capacity) eligible for tax credits in the USA? Or these have to be permanently installed to be eligible?
I just purchased the same Explorer 1000 Plus and the SolarSaga 100w panels do not 🚫 work. 0 input wattage with both panels connected, but it charges from AC without a problem 😳 Now I have to package everything back up and send it back by UPS... This sucks! F🤬 Jackery
I have the jackery 300 and been great for the past 2 years. We use it to charge tablets and phones daily and some practice or baseball games. Looking into the 1000 v2 and a refrigerator for travel games.
Ahhh ! .... on another video I was asking about this ! - and in this video you address the lithium ion battery vs the newer LiFePO4 battery. ( as I said many on Reddit were disappointed that Jacker was cheaping out by using older lithium ion technology in their batteries ) So glad I saw this video !
It is good to see them switch to the better chemistry. I don't have a home battery system but I do use Bluetti and Jackery devices daily to work from home with solar energy. As such my original Jackery Explorer 500 gets the job done but it doesn't have 60+ watt USB C for direct DC laptop connection forcing me to the comparatively inefficient inverter. It also gets discharged to about 30% then recharged about 4 times a week so that 500 cycles is a meaningful limitation.
They sent me the old style 240 as a gift for buying one of their larger systems with solar panels. I doubt I will ever get it down to the 80% point. Thanks for letting us know about the difference in their battery technology.
One thing that I have noticed about the older Jackery power stations is that the older ones have an output voltage of 110V while the newer ones have an output voltage of 120V.
Great heads up! I use a four year old Dewalt power station that is fine for my area where the power might go out for three hours every six years. I have been considering buying a larger Jackery system that can handle four solar panels for experimental purposes. I might even take it to the beach and ask some really smart mammals what they think of solar power for the experimental porpoise.
Great “exposé”. I am all in on LifeP04 batteries. 100% discharge rate and 8-10 year lifespan. I do believe the Jackie is overpriced at $999. I just built a 200ah 1000 W pure side wave power station for $891.
I got the old one for $999 a while ago, but it included two panels as well. Also only really need it for hurricane prep, but yeah, definitely need to look into the newer ones.
I have both. Loved the old one and still use it. Now we love our new one. But the fact they are charging the same price is a little scammy to people not in the know. We also own 2 other new cheap brands and wouldn't pay the big money for the Jackery name ever again. Good job on calling them out.
To late...I got screwed...My Old Explorer 1000 just failed, and I wasn't even using it? It started flashing the SOS signal through the flashlight, and I couldn't turn it off. I got it to stop by doing a reset, but a few moments later, it started flashing again...Ive owned it 13 months, with very little use, but I do store it fully charged. I attempted to contact Jackery, but I don't expect any help.
if you spent 1000$, then YOU are the one that got ripped off. Amazon has had them on sale from 650 to 450 most of the last 9 months. I mostly bought it for power outages in the winter or bad storms. I really don't think the average user is going to recharge it enough times to matter one vs the other. Plus the smaller one is 22 pounds, the larger one is ever heavier. My bad back will take the lighter one tyvm.
Just one question, have a Jackery 500 bought around six years ago. Still seems to be going strong, but do wonder if there's any way of doing a battery test, to see how it's holding up
Appreciate the video. I bought my 1000 jackery w/ 2 100w solar panels for $699.. the newest v2 with 1 200w solar panel is $1299..I'll stick with mine as it gets charged 2 times a year and only gets used in power Outages. Think I'll be fine for the next 10+ years...even if it hits 80%
I am considering purchasing a Jackery 2000 plus or the Ecoflow delta pro. I know these are not exactly in the same category, but is the Jackery 2000 much quieter thank the Delta Pro? i was originally considering the Delta pro, but I am concern about their noise level. can you shed some light on the subject since you have experience with both brand. thanks in advance.
I've had my older (original version) explorer 1000 now for a few years, haven't noticed any battery issues, but, it's only been fully depleted a couple times. Would be nice if you could swap out the battery in it...
They’re $499 on Amazon…and it states in the specs there is a 2 year manufacturer warranty. And everything purchased on Amazon has a 30 money back guarantee…
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Jackery... What re you doing!? It doesn't mater what Jackery unit your are trying to buy, if you purchase an older style Jackery Power Station - you are getting scammed! There is no way these old units should be sold at the same price as their new power stations with LiFePO4 battery chemistry.
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Will you ever test the Titan generators from Point Zero Energy, and show just how good they really are compared to these High frequency units, especially the 240 sp. Show people the truth, about low frequency, compared to high frequency generators
I live in Georgia and we just dealt with hurricane Helena, My jackery 500 collapsed it won't even do nothing anymore just yesterday it got sent back to jackery thankfully it's under a 3 year warranty and I was only in year 2
The scam is the price tag.
Absolutely agree!
@@bigmeany1184 I feel all quality batteries at this capacity cost about the same, if not more? Is the scam trying to make a profit?
Yeah, that's what he said.
1000 stinking voltz for $999, way too much money, I will stick with a generator at those prices.
Ever price a brand new 56v EGO battery? For just the batteries alone, Jackery is a pretty good deal.
I just bought the explorer 1000v2 which has the handle and a LiFePO4 battery stating 4000 cycles to 70%+ capacity... Paid $649 with solar panel at Lowes...
Which jackery would you compare that to?
@@worldpeace8187it is the jackery explorer 1000 v2
@@BmanArtlooks like that’s just the unit and no solar panels but still a great price. The panel I got looks to be about $200
Good deal
That sucks. I just bought mine for $450 on Amazon. It’s the version two as well.
The inverter or some other electronic part is going to fail way before the battery capacity falls below 80% from cycling on either of those.
Omg thank you for telling me this!!! I just couldn’t understand why the newer version was only $100 difference and I just kept thinking something was wrong. Thank you for clearing that up!!
Awesome of you! Thanks for looking out for us
Reminds me of the time (a few lifetimes ago) when a high school friend got fired from his job at a now-defunct famous major retailer for refusing to put a big "SALE!" sign on a lawnmower than had just had its price *increased* by about $20.
That friend is a good man. I hope he's done well and been recognized for his integrity.
For integrity there is no substitute.
sears?
Why would anybody buy anything from a company that would treat their customers like this 👎
That's why be cautious of all companies even when they claim they're pro environment. Bottom line is money
I paid $479 for the old one last week. I bought it because I live in Louisiana and it’s hurricane season.
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looks like you got it just in time for Francine
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At this point I see them going for $200, just kinda scummy they would sell an inferior product for the superior products price
@@DancingBanana-g1e Absolutely scummy. Boycott.
I bought the older model years ago on jackery's once a year sale price, and it has worked flawlessly for 7 years, no issues. The price tag is high, but still was a lot cheaper than the Ecoflow Delta (which is better overall). It does take a long time to charge, but I am happy overall with it
One thing you might have mentioned is that the lithium ion pack is significantly lighter as li-ion is much more energy dense than lifepo.
The new version is way heavier. By 1/3 rd. Because I'm not going to use all the Cycles I do you like the lighter version... that's just me.
The lithium ion Jackery Explorer 1000 is 22.04 lbs. The lifepo4 Jackery 1000 v2 is 23.8 lbs. They have comparable battery capacity, but the v2 has 50% more power output. The difference in weight is only 8%, it's very minimal.
@@guspaz the jacjery 1000 plus weighs 32lbs. About 10 pounds more.
@@diySolarPowerFunWithRay The 1000 Plus has nearly 1.3x the capacity and 2x the output, of course it weighs more, it's not a remotely similar product. The Jackery 1000 v2 has similar capacity to the Jackery 1000, only with lifepo4, and is nearly the same weight.
Lithium Ion refers to all different kinds of lithium chemistries, including LifePo4 chemistry, and NMC. Both LifePo4 and NMC still use lithium ion transfer as a means for providing power. The older Jackery uses NMC chemistry cells, which certainly have their place. Higher energy density for their weight, something I have use for. For my use case, I'd actually opt for the NMC version, being that it is more compact, lighter, and I won't be cycling it much. NMC is the same chemistry used in things like your phone, tablets, and other portable devices as it offers a higher energy density than LifePo4.
^this!
All my phones and tablets have LFP batteries though 😂
Well said, thanks for posting. This guy is acting like he knows wtf he's talking about, and he knows next to nothing. The giveaway is when he refers to the old as lithium ion and the new as LFP, right in the beginning.🤦
What he said is correct.
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex What kind of phones and tablets? All of mine have regular NMC Lithium polymer packs.
Jackery has so many recent complaints on Amazon for shipping problems and customer service problems, for shipping used, beat-up items as “new” items (is that why Jackery runs these “flash” sales? To dump their used inventory onto an unsuspecting public?)
so which ones are better?
@@gosman949 I honestly don’t know. I haven’t yet bought one myself.
I benefited from Amazon f-ups and ended up getting two for the price of one. So silver linings do exist.
Brought the older model on sale for 45% off. I’m happy with it
Same here got two 100w solar panels with it also. Very happy with my purchase. Don’t buy these at full price, Jackery does big sales every so often.
Where at?
@@SupremeTalkShow420 Amazon contacted me.
Brought it? Where did you bring it?
@@buzman1985 Home from the store. 😀
For people who use these for power outages, they may only use them 5-10 times per year. In that case, calendar aging is more important. I wonder how that compares for the two battery types.
Calendar life is 2-3 times as long, in theory. It is jackery though so it probably wont last. The one and only unit i bought from them was broken on arrival and they are making it extremely difficult to get my money back or even send a replacement. Thet wont even send me the return label. They keep dragging their feet.
Thanks for pointing this out. That is disappointing that they wouldn't just do a clearance sale to get rid of the old-style products. That would be the more ethical and respectable thing for a business to do, given the situation.
The old style still has legitimate use cases where it is preferable to the new one. It mostly comes down to weight and portability.
If you were buying in case of an emergency, I get why it wouldn't matter so much. I'm an avid overlander who, unfortunately, needs reliable power for a CPAP machine, so the benefits of the plus model make a big difference! Either way, get the 5 year protection plan. Take care of yourself, whatever that means to you!
So which did you get, I was also looking at ecoflow and people "scam alerting" that as well.
Not the biggest fan of Jackery (imo they are overpriced), but this isn't a scam. LiPo lasts longer but weighs much more. It's a tradeoff.
It also costs more in Jackery models. OPs info in not correct.
Also most of these all in one power stations wont be working in 5 years if you use it often. Over-complicated tech with lots electronics that can fail with this type of application. So the battery cycle life might not be the main concern. I think from a safety standpoint all current lithium battery technology is a fire hazard although LiFePO4 is slightly safer. I would not want old any lithium batteries in my place.
@@practicalguy973 - New Jackerys have a 5 year warranty.
Good job for telling us and Thank you for knowledgeable info!
My daughter works for a global construction company. She told me that none of her coworkers wear luxury goods. They seem to focus on the kislux high-quality small boutique companies that make goods cheaper than the iconic luxury brands. There are lots of options. If you don't want to pay those high prices, there are a lot of great bags for just a few hundred dollars, not thousands.
I suppose there's a use for those little boxes. What I don't like is how so many of the companies selling them imply you can run your house on them for days and days. There's only so many amp hours in the box and you only get to use them once before you have to recharge.
Bologne. You can use 10% at a time or 1% at a time. There's no such limitation to use only once before the next charge 😂😂😂
@@ChatGPT1111 You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Throw a solar panel outside and run your cord into the house to charge the battery box. Our energy efficient / large capacity deep freezer would run forever on that if necessary. Not with the Jackery 1000 but another unit with 3,000kwh. Even considering a cloudy day or rainy day we would still get bye. If you’re charging with grid power then there is no point to using it. Van life / outdoor life makes sense. For home backup these units are too small!
Yeah I ran the calcs and the 5000 WH model would run my house for about a day using the bare minimum (fridge, freezer, furnace). Last power outage we were out for 4 days.
@@snorman1911 Yup. A day is good but depending on your scenario may not be near enough. It was that way for me when I lived in the country. The power may be back on in a day, or it may be a week. If it's winter refrigeration isn't a problem so that's a saving. But you do need to keep that furnace running. Dad had a little gas powered generator installed in the shop that was enough for the basics. And a bigger PTO driven generator if we needed to run more equipment.
I don't think anyone is being scammed. They have stock to shift and then it's gone leaving only the updated version.
I agree though that they should put the LION battery model on sale, it's only fair now.
The explorer 1000 and two panels is $799 on Amazon right now
Thank you, as you say most people wouldn’t know that. I ordered Jackery EU1000v2, ir hasn’t arrived yet but am thinking about returning it before unboxing it. I am starting to find a few more videos like tis one and the more I see the less trust I have in Jackey. Now, back to my continued research to try and decide on a better option.
Which one are you considering? Please send link. Thx!
Jackery Sucks: I recently purchased two Jackery Explorer 1000 v2, and one 200-watt solar panel. With one of the power stations, if I want to run my 550-watt window air conditioner the power station turns off when the AC compressor turns on. This is NOT supposed to happen, and I can't find out online what the problem is. The second power station doesn't have this problem. I've had the power stations and 200-watt solar panel for only one month, having used it around 10 times, and one of the two kickstands is already beginning to break off; I'm guessing it's because I live in central Arizona and the plastic fold can't handle high summer heat -- the kickstand fold is up at the top where it's exposed to sunlight/heat whereas other brands have this fold lower so it's in a shadow. I'm also unhappy that there is no kickstand in the center of the panel, only on the ends, because when set up the center always sags and doesn't face the sun the same way as the ends do, so you need to use something to prop the center up; I use a cynder block. Lastly, the two-prong connector to the solar panel is extremely finicky because after connecting the cable to the power station it often registers as 0 watts input, so after going out and fiddling with the two-prong connection to the solar panel about ten times it will finally work properly; the connector to the solar panel should be some sort of click-on attachment rather than loose fitting since that end of the cable cord is always bent/curved at the connection point! Customer support gave me a lousy 5% refund on this solar panel. I later contacted their marketing department (with photo of breaking kickstand) since I have a UA-cam channel and plan to make a review of this product, and never received a reply from them, so now I'm going to make a harshly critical video about this power station and the solar panel. My advice is to purchase other brands like Bluetti or Oupes because you cannot use other solar panels with a Jackery -- Jackery makes everything proprietary so that you're stuck using only their overpriced solar panels and cables/connectors!
Thanks for the experience, my biggest question was can we use other solar sources to charge the "Jackery "
@@desislayer8790 no personally I like the Ecoflow delta pro a lot better. Two of them can run your whole house and you can use any solar pannel and connect them to the eco flow delta pro’s. It’s alittle more expensive but I’d start with 1 eco flow delta pro and buy 2-3 400 watt solar panels witch will get you about 1200 watts of solar charging and be able to charge the 1 battery you have effectively until you get another battery. The two batteries connected together can power a 240v washer and dryer or any 240v appliances
ive only ever bought one unit. it was the explorer 1000 v2. it arrived broken and they claimed theyd send a return label, but never did. So i call and ask why they havent sent me my return label and they just keep dragging their feet. Avoid jackery if you want to keep your sanity. How can i trust their products to be reliable if my one and only unit arrived broken. I cant even trust them to make it right because they are a scummy company. One of their customer service reps pretended to hangup for well over a minute, probably hoping id hang up. The whole situation is ridiculous.
Jackery should take action. What is left of their reputation is at stake. Sells them for 30-40% of the old list and clear them out as they still have some utility. Or give them to the people in NC and Florida who need power sources right now.
“Scam” is pretty harsh. There’s also a new 1000 v2 out now. All three are on sale right now…and Jackery products go on sale frequently anyway. I already bought (at the intro sale price) and use the new v2 and only bought the NMC 1000 about a year and half ago (on sale). I’m happy with the v2 so far, and you guys should review that one too.
I think any of the 3 are a great value at the current sale prices. I do not own the Plus version. Almost got it…and probably would’ve if not for the v2.
agreed, they're all very good value during Amazon prime day and/or Blk Fri and decent value during the remaining holiday sales throughout the year.
Yep, but putting scam in the title gets more views. I do not like this trend, and sadly, we are contributing to it by just commenting. I guess I will put these guys on my do not watch list. Downvotes even contribute to "engagement". The only thing to combat it is not to watch, but you need to watch to realize the title is baiting.
0:32 “Jackery has done an amazing job at being well known”
Wow, I’m totally sold. 🙃
Thanks for catching that. Im glad your calling out company that do shady stuff .
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The old jackery style is on Amazon store for $549 right now.
It’s down to $499 as 12 July…
I got mine for $479 on Prime Day at Amazon.
i have the older one which i love and has lasted about 4 years with no issues but my only gripe about the battery is that without completely disassembling the battery you don't have access to the positive and negative terminals which i really wish was possible since most any project requiring a large dc amount is going to be over 10 amps
Good heads up. I don't mind if someone uses a cheaper battery as long as it includes a lower price. You can debate if it is worth the savings or not. I rarely use batteries, so I'm OK with not paying more for thousands of cycles. It's definitely a scam if you charge the same price for a cheaper battery just because you know that many people won't realize that it won't last as long.
this is one of the best videos on youtube. short and to the point and your saving a lot of peoples butt! Subscribed
I wish I had seen this before I bought mine. Let the buyer beware, I guess.
The Explorer 1000 v2 is $460 on amazon right now.
that's pretty good, it will last a decade or more easily so the price is decent
Today is November 13, 2024 and the 1000 v2 is listed at $459 on Amazon…and there’s a $60 coupon. I had some Amazon points that I’ve been saving up for a few weeks so I ended up paying, after tax, $328….not too damn bad.
Seems like there would be a considerable weight difference. That might matter in some peoples circumstance.
Glad you are calling Jackery out on this. Just purchased a highly rated and evaluated Pecron LiFePO4 unit for $0.43 a watt hour and has a 5 year warranty. Just used it on my week long camping trip bouncing in the back of my off-road camper. Worked great.
How often did you have to charge the unit on your trip
@@feline-n6b just charged before I left and that was it. It was the 1500 wh. Normally charge as I drive from wires off the Jeep battery.
@AlternativePower903 oh I didn’t consider the weight. Now that combined with the fact that this unit will have probably 1/3 the life of the LiFePO4 unit makes it worth it. NOT!
Thanks for the info! I hadn't realized that Jackery is doing Li-ion-Phos batteries. I was shying away from their brand because I didn't want a Li-ion battery system.
They're ALL "Li-ion" batteries.
You mean "I don't want the higher energy *Nickel* based cells"
The SCAM is the limited capacity of the battery for that price. I just bought two 100 AH LFP batteries, a 2000 watt PSW inverter, a 50 amp charger, a box to put it in, and a status monitor, connectors, etc for under $500. Way more capability and capacity that that $1000 wallet drain.
Nobody is buying the 1000 for $999.
Retail is $599 and they go on sale for $549 or $499 regularly.
The 1000 plus retailed originally for $1699 and sales for $799-999 regularly.
There is also 1000 pro which is priced between the two models.
Yea these power stations from all the brands are regularly half off or have a huge coupon. The one I just got normally 999 but 40% of then has a 9% coupon that can be applied
You also have to take into consideration the poor performance of LiFePO4 in cold weather climates.
It's well known that below 35°F, they don't charge well (or at all) and at temperatures below that, if you try and use them, you're dramatically reducing their life span
Here's something nobody ever asks...and should. How do you return their product if it fails? Go read the laws from the DOT.
Wow, Thank you SO MUCH for this public service announcement!!! I was about to choose the old version, because that is what I was seeing in all the reviews!
Li-FePO4 is a trade-off versus Li-ion, not an upgrade. Yes, they have more cycles and are a bit safer, but they also have less energy density. I charge my Jackery 500 once a month, so 500 cycles will last me 40 years. I don't need the new chemistry to increase that to 300 years. I carry these 15+ lbs. power stations everywhere, so I want the lowest weight and I don't care about the number of cycles.
All of the above. AND sometimes the low temp charge cutoff is lower on Li-ion, so Li-ion can be better for cold climate users.
Thats assuming it doesn't have random product failure
What all can to run with this, for how long and how much at a time?
Less density just means that the same battery in watt hours is slightly bigger for the lifepo4. Big deal. There is ZERO benefit to buying a lithium ion battery vs a lifepo4 battery. ZERO!
@@Chris-jt7xgget real. There is ZERO benefit in buying a lithium ion battery over a lifepo4 battery. That’s why ALL of the manufacturers have switched to lifepo4.
Thank you for this information! Much appreciated.
I use a CPAP machine to sleep and having a jackery has been a lifesaver when our power gets shutoff due to high winds. The 240 model gives me two nights of peaceful sleep before it needs to be recharged. And the solar panel they sell works great to charge the battery.
LiFePO4 battery is a LOT safer for storing around the house, or in your car, than the older lithium ion ones.
I purchased a renewed jackery 880 for $350. I felt like it was a decent deal…
Regardless of fine print or location of the details of a item in the specs, if Jackery lists the battery "type" of each unit, it's not shady. It's up to consumers to do their homework before purchasing. Being dishonest as a buisness however, would infact be shady. Bread listed as 100% whole wheat bread is very different from bread that's dyed brown and called "wheat bread."
I had a Jackery panel that broke. Their customer service said “go buy a new one” 😂
I used my first winnings to buy a canvas LV and in less than two years the wallet was cracked/broken in multiple places and the store refused to repair or replace it. I don't know what kind of resale value such junk could have. I ended up donating it...well, maybe I might buy a fake LV from kislux but these designers/robber barons don't even think about taking another penny from me.
Thanks ! i Had no idea the Life cycles were sooo different between the 2 battery chemistry's. Wow !!! Thank You Very Much for Making this Short & To the Point video !!!
I got a 500w Jackery, old design, about 5 years ago. I think I've charged it like under 10 times. It holds the charge until I use it, and it's still doing the same job whenever I need it. Which is not very often granted. No regrets though.
They should drop the price, you're right for making the video. If I were getting one today, I wouldn't have known the difference.
I just bought the new version for $499 as Amazon has a sale!
The 1000 and 1000 Plus are no longer the same price. The Plus is $200 more, although both are on sale right now. And there's also a 1000 v2 which is cheaper than the 1000 and has less surge power output than the 1000 even though it has the same capacity. I bought an Ecoflow, though. The Jackery only comes with an AC power cable. The Ecoflow comes with multiple cables including AC, car charging and solar to connect to my existing portable solar panel. And it was on sale as well because of Amazon Prime day. But I didn't have to be a Prime member to buy it directly from the manufacturer at the sale price.
The scam is the thing will break well well well before battery chemistry differences ever become an issue. And jackery will refuse to repair it, even if you offer to pay for the repair. THe whole thing gets thrown out. No replacement parts are available and Jackery won't repair
Mine (authentic) also has a smell inside! I don't know what's going on because none of my other products have the smell of the kislux bag. Called LV and they said it is normal and I can wipe the inside with a damp cloth. I thought the lining was suede but it's actually microfiber so I'm going to look for ways to remove the microfiber smell because the smell is keeping me from using it often.
The scam for me was buying one in the first place. I have never fully discharged my 500 jackery. Its too weak to cook from it, wont power an air conditioner. Charges phones ok and runs my string lights.
The lithium iron phosphate batteries are cheaper for them to buy. They make more money off you when you buy the lithium iron phosphate. Unless they spent more money on the other parts and then it's a wash. The older lithium ion is lighter for the same capacity. 500 cycles would be 5 years of using it 50 weekends a year draining it each day you use it.
I bought the jackery 500 for like 300 bucks on Black Friday idk if it’s still a lose in the long run. I never use it but plan on having it for camping / power outage scenarios which happen very rarely
Wish I'd known this 2 days ago when I got the tiny Explorer 240, but I did get it on clearance for 1/3rd off so $200AU. I plan to use it with a small car fridge when it's not running off the cars power so at most it would run overnight. And I won't be using it daily for a year so still expect to get a long life from it.
I just got the new version on sale on Amazon for $459. Post sale, they still had it for $549.00. It's going in my van to be a mobile power station.
500 cycles until 80% capacity. Considering that this is for camping, which most people won't do every single day of the year, the old one will probably last for 10 years as well. And it isn't as heavy. I've been using my Jackery 500 for two years now - and it hasn't shown any sign of reduced capacity so far.
Thank you so muchhhhhhh, I’m about to buy my first power station and this is gold for me, I’ll be using it for my shed
Harbor Freight still has older version on their site and in store.
I steered away from it due to old battery technology. If they improved battery may consider new version.
I just got an ANKER Solix C1000. Granted, it is only 1050WH instead of Jackery's 1264WH, but for only 200WH less I paid only $479 for my power station that will also go 10 years, and also has a 2400 watt output instead of the Jackery's 2000. I also have 2 of the Anker 300 watt power stations. I use them for powering video lights on film shoots. A much better buy than buying a power unit and expensive V-mount batteries that can only be used for the lights. I can use my power stations for other things as well. I will be using the Solix C1000 for my lights too, as well as for power outages.
Ive had plenty of Anker stuff fail
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos - My daughter (Teacher) and son-in-law (Professor) have several Anker power banks that they have used for years with their electronics and have had zero problems. Same as their colleagues. This is one of several things that steered me towards Anke. Also, a guy who reviewed a current model brought out his 10 year old model as well, which still worked like new. That was a big one as well.
I've had my first 300 watt unit for going on 3 years now and it is flawless. Granted, that's not a lot of time either. The other 2 units I just got this year.
Thanks for sharing I bought the explorer EX 1500 at Costco 6 months ago for $1300. Costco said I had to deal with jackery so jackery is replacing my explorer 1500. I asked the jackery technician on the phone why they are not selling these anymore. He said it's old technology no wonder I got such a good deal on it. Buyer beware
Hello, are these power stations (the bigger ones over 3.2kWh capacity) eligible for tax credits in the USA? Or these have to be permanently installed to be eligible?
I loved my Explorer 1000 (new version) until I actually tried to run a power drill with it. It shuts off about every 1-2 screws...
I just purchased the same Explorer 1000 Plus and the SolarSaga 100w panels do not 🚫 work. 0 input wattage with both panels connected, but it charges from AC without a problem 😳 Now I have to package everything back up and send it back by UPS... This sucks! F🤬 Jackery
Jackery was where I was headed in my choice for a cabin power station, the poor customer service and reveiws are changing my mind.
Could you do a review for the Jackery 5000 plus? Thanks, Ken
I have the jackery 300 and been great for the past 2 years. We use it to charge tablets and phones daily and some practice or baseball games. Looking into the 1000 v2 and a refrigerator for travel games.
Ahhh ! .... on another video I was asking about this ! - and in this video you address the lithium ion battery vs the newer LiFePO4 battery. ( as I said many on Reddit were disappointed that Jacker was cheaping out by using older lithium ion technology in their batteries ) So glad I saw this video !
It is good to see them switch to the better chemistry. I don't have a home battery system but I do use Bluetti and Jackery devices daily to work from home with solar energy. As such my original Jackery Explorer 500 gets the job done but it doesn't have 60+ watt USB C for direct DC laptop connection forcing me to the comparatively inefficient inverter. It also gets discharged to about 30% then recharged about 4 times a week so that 500 cycles is a meaningful limitation.
My jackery was dead in a year, issue with the bms as half of the batteries measured bad when I took it apart and measured them.
Did you check the battery type in the book? And compare the same info on the website. Troubling?...
They sent me the old style 240 as a gift for buying one of their larger systems with solar panels. I doubt I will ever get it down to the 80% point. Thanks for letting us know about the difference in their battery technology.
Does the new one still take a long time to fully charge?
One thing that I have noticed about the older Jackery power stations is that the older ones have an output voltage of 110V while the newer ones have an output voltage of 120V.
How many watts is good a household blackout?
Great heads up! I use a four year old Dewalt power station that is fine for my area where the power might go out for three hours every six years.
I have been considering buying a larger Jackery system that can handle four solar panels for experimental purposes. I might even take it to the beach and ask some really smart mammals what they think of solar power for the experimental porpoise.
Great “exposé”. I am all in on LifeP04 batteries. 100% discharge rate and 8-10 year lifespan. I do believe the Jackie is overpriced at $999. I just built a 200ah 1000 W pure side wave power station for $891.
I build my own also if anything goes wrong I can fix it myself it's the only way to go in my opinion
I got the old one for $999 a while ago, but it included two panels as well. Also only really need it for hurricane prep, but yeah, definitely need to look into the newer ones.
I have both. Loved the old one and still use it. Now we love our new one. But the fact they are charging the same price is a little scammy to people not in the know. We also own 2 other new cheap brands and wouldn't pay the big money for the Jackery name ever again. Good job on calling them out.
Which brands?
@randombiker8002 afery and oupes
To late...I got screwed...My Old Explorer 1000 just failed, and I wasn't even using it? It started flashing the SOS signal through the flashlight, and I couldn't turn it off. I got it to stop by doing a reset, but a few moments later, it started flashing again...Ive owned it 13 months, with very little use, but I do store it fully charged. I attempted to contact Jackery, but I don't expect any help.
The 1000 was 499 with amazon prime, now it's 479 on a prime day deal
I paid $499 during their 50%off🤦🏻♂️ fathers day.. i got ripped of $20🤬
if you spent 1000$, then YOU are the one that got ripped off. Amazon has had them on sale from 650 to 450 most of the last 9 months. I mostly bought it for power outages in the winter or bad storms. I really don't think the average user is going to recharge it enough times to matter one vs the other. Plus the smaller one is 22 pounds, the larger one is ever heavier. My bad back will take the lighter one tyvm.
Just one question, have a Jackery 500 bought around six years ago. Still seems to be going strong, but do wonder if there's any way of doing a battery test, to see how it's holding up
Do you like anybody else would do and go buy yourself a multimeter.
@@OutdoorswithFloridaSmokin How do you check with a Multimeter, just plug it in and switch on.
Thank you! I already own the older version, about 5 years now. So, if I pursue another Jackery purchase, I will know the difference.
Lithium ion phosphate. Got it. Is this change available on all/most brands? Is the life difference similar across most brands?
Appreciate the video. I bought my 1000 jackery w/ 2 100w solar panels for $699.. the newest v2 with 1 200w solar panel is $1299..I'll stick with mine as it gets charged 2 times a year and only gets used in power Outages. Think I'll be fine for the next 10+ years...even if it hits 80%
I am considering purchasing a Jackery 2000 plus or the Ecoflow delta pro. I know these are not exactly in the same category, but is the Jackery 2000 much quieter thank the Delta Pro? i was originally considering the Delta pro, but I am concern about their noise level. can you shed some light on the subject since you have experience with both brand. thanks in advance.
Thanks for the info and taking the time to make the video.
Hear any problems with solar charging by the new one ?
I've had my older (original version) explorer 1000 now for a few years, haven't noticed any battery issues, but, it's only been fully depleted a couple times. Would be nice if you could swap out the battery in it...
The older one are on Amazon for $579- NONREFUNDABLE 😏
They’re available on the Jackery website for $529 and fully warrantied. I’ve had great experiences with their customer service too.
They’re $499 on Amazon…and it states in the specs there is a 2 year manufacturer warranty. And everything purchased on Amazon has a 30 money back guarantee…
Every large battery you buy from amazon is going to be "nonRETURNABLE" - because of shipping a battery.
@@simpleme5719 30 days to return it according to Amazon
On sale now 40% off. Is it worth dropping $14k+ ($10k after rebates) for a 24kwh Jackery 2000 plus setup? Or should I build my own system?