Try to run GTA V on a Pentium D. It's reallllly fun to drive around when the textures stop loading quick enough to keep up and you're just driving around on grey matter haha
My imagination does the trick for me man.. I sleep after seeing game trailers and my brain makes the best story ever.. moreover I get a complete new story line evernight I boot up my imagination
AMD/Intel : We have many fast cores and threads! Dawid: *waves tazer* Hmmm i'd be shame if something were to happen to all those cores and threads.....
@@poindexter25 Because Macs are clearly designed without gaming in mind Somebody said that Macbook fans actually don’t work and are just playing fan noises in loop.
If you have time, I’d actually love to see the results with hyperthreading turned on. Having two threads (1C2T) really helps in some games, you can get into some other games that won’t run on a single thread, and I think it could demonstrate the efficiency difference, if any, of SMT from Intel and AMD.
I tested using a 9900k vs R5 3600 in an x570 Motherboard. My conclusion: Intel sucks. It won't even Post. People say my tests are flawed and biased but I don't see it.
Great video thanks. It inspired me to try this single core gaing thing you speak of...well 1 core with hyper threading on. I have a Sandy Bridge i7 2600K@5.1GHz normally that is my daily OC. Today I turned off all but 1 core left HT enabled and cranked it up to 5.2GHz. Only game I tried was Doom ET and it ran fine with these CPU settings. I never did the FPS bench if it has one built into Doom ET. I just ran around killed stuff. My MSI/Riva OSD stated I was getting between 105FPS to 150FPS...averaging 131FPS. CPU was only using 30 watts with 1 core and HT on. My game settings are Ultra Nightmare so I am not going easy on my system and this game. I did try with just 1 core no HT but Doom ET would not load just crashed and was the same thing with Doom 2016 on 1 core only. Will try next 5.3GHz single core and HT enabled as I know this CPU is able to fully boot to WIndows at 5.3GHz and all cores enabled but it becomes warm in games at that speed with all cores going. It is good to know my old CPU still has enough in the tank to keep up with the big boys when looking at only IPC at least and MHz also I guess. Edited: I forgot to mention CPU usage was about 78%-94%. I also tried BFV but it was a no go it would either just sit at a black screen or crash back to the desktop.
It can be difficult to get through to people, even some very smart people, that clock rate is an abysmal metric unless you're comparing like with like. A 10980 running at 4.8ghz vs a 10980 running at 5.3ghz is a fair comparison. A 10980 running at 4.8ghz versus some messed up LN2-cooled Z80 running at 5.3ghz is not. Nice to see a video that shows this graphically. Also nice to see the whole "games depend entirely on single core performance" myth put to bed. Sure there's a main game loop, and sure that needs one core to be doing a lot of work, but game devs know that multi-core is just how things are these days, and they're doing what they can to shift all kinds of work off to helper threads and secondary processes.
If you pick an i9... pick a Ryzen 9, what an unfair test! Yet AMD can still win sometimes! Definitely try with hyperthreading, 1 core 2 threads was average in early 2000s!
the only time disabling cores was useful for me was when I upgraded my Latitude E6540 from a i7 4610M to a i7 4810MQ. What I didn't realize i also had to upgrade from the 90watt charger to a 130watt charger. so when that was on the way, if I didn't disable 2 core it would hella throttle no more than about 1GHz.
A little late to this one, I really like this concept. Back in the day Tom's Hardware did something like this titled "Tom's CPU Architecture Shootout: 16 CPUs, One Core Each, And 3 GHz". These days I think a 2 or 4 core at 4ghz IPC shootout would be pretty awesome.
Reminds me of when I got my optiplex i7-3770 to only 1 core no hyperthreading, just running basic apps was painfully slow compared to the pretty fast speed it had
It would be interesting to find out the minimum amount of cores needed to optimally run your game benchmarks, then compare the CPU temps before and after disabling the cores. Then maybe comparing the CPU performance and temps to a comparable CPU (cores matching cores).
You need to test the original Dead Space, Portal, Half-life 2 or Spore, because they all can run in one core but its intersting to see just how much of the core it uses.
Just a tip for next time, you can set core affinity in the task manager. So you can start with all cores for the game then remove them as its running. Running GTA on 3 cores :)
Thanks for a good review. I do have a P4 550 3.4 1 core and an Athlon X2 6000+ with old GT640 and GT 8600 (the P4 on its 2nd MB, since the first one died after 10 years of service 2004-2014). Only really old games work on them. But they are good for UA-cam, google apps, and e-mail. So I can stop trying to run GTA V from steam on them.
My AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition with my GTX 560 would do ~20fps in GTA V from my recollection. I gamed on that system for years. Eventually the stuttering becomes so common place that you accepted it for what it is, and you couldn't afford to upgrade. But then games come out like No Man's Sky. That refuse to run without 'special versions' of the game's executable, that made me just go... "You know what... It's time to bite the bullet."
Should I do 5000 series build or this CPU: AMD Ryzen 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 7 X CO CPU Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max WiFi ATX AM4 Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Storage: Corsair MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Case Fan [x2]: ARCTIC P12 PWM 56.3 CFM 120 mm
I think ryzen perfomed better because it has much bigger l3 cache than intel cpu so games that takes advantage of that has more breathing room. Also it would be interesting if you test/mess around more with core/thread configuration, something like running single core with SMT, or trying only 3 active cores for gaming.
Might be related to your findings (a Zen 2 core is smoother/stronger), but even when I load all cores of my Threadripper 3970x at 100% with 3D rendering, I can still use my PC perfectly fine without any stuttering or lagging. It feels like my PC isn't even loaded at all. Good job, AMD! I can only imagine what the Zen 3 core is capable of.
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The only tech channel that genuinely makes me laugh. Your content is so underrated compared to the huge tech channels like Jay's and Kyle's.
Zoomer. Boomer. And the other one's just right.
Yea!
Just found this channel recently and I've been actually enjoying Dawid's vids more than other more lager tech channels
"This video was pretty badly done" Lol
Try to run GTA V on a Pentium D. It's reallllly fun to drive around when the textures stop loading quick enough to keep up and you're just driving around on grey matter haha
My imagination does the trick for me man.. I sleep after seeing game trailers and my brain makes the best story ever.. moreover I get a complete new story line evernight I boot up my imagination
He actually said “badly timed”....
Hahaha!! Yeah, I said badly timed not done.
That's pretty rude Timmy Joe. 😂
I heard done lol sorry bro. Timed makes sense
I think this shows off pretty well how core frequencies are not a reliable metric when comparing CPUs of different manufacturers.
Oh for sure!
its like comparing rpm between different engines and saying "this engine is better because it redlines at 9000"
@@hailgod1 Honda engines 😆
AMD/Intel : We have many fast cores and threads!
Dawid: *waves tazer* Hmmm i'd be shame if something were to happen to all those cores and threads.....
No wonder it was hard to find the cpu and motherboard, they are all terrified of what he will do to them c:
@@SpikeTheBear finally someone else that uses c:
@@pepre7594 ayyy, respect
@@SpikeTheBear c:
Speaking of gaming performance... Mac All-In-Ones are outstanding and have unstoppable value!! (Mac gaming good, you may laugh now)
Oh for sure! Can't wait for Mac All-in-one's come into their own for gaming. 😂
Idk why mac and Linux aren’t respected in the gaming community
Linux is kinda respected, it just hasn't got too many games
@@poindexter25 because of directX, open GL, and vulkan api's
@@poindexter25 Because Macs are clearly designed without gaming in mind
Somebody said that Macbook fans actually don’t work and are just playing fan noises in loop.
Haha that was a good one "It's like when a kid finds a severed thumb in his Happy Meal" 😂😂😂
Smh that clickbait, I thought you were showcasing the best CPUs that were literally single core used for optimal gaming
Hello Justin! Fancy seeing you here!
wait a minute
They are not even single cores hahahaha. He tweaked it so he can play with only one core to see how much peformance 1 core of gaming can do.
Oh my bad. I didn't mean to have it be clickbait. I'm not sure how to phrase it more clearly though. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff justin is a troll, he's not actually SMHing lol
You deserve more subscribers sir lol, keep up the cool content!
Thank you very much. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff no problem :)
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You really do warrant a bigger subscriber base...i hope that you will always keep at it and never give up.
I'm guessing the Ryzen system runs better because it has more cache.
Maybe Instructions-per-Clock is playing a part too?! 🤔
Cache is king©
YOU SPOILED THE VIDEO AHAHAHHSSHAH I HATE UA-cam MOBILE
@@r1nc3w1nd7 i think instructions per clock should translate to single core performance aswell tho
If you have time, I’d actually love to see the results with hyperthreading turned on. Having two threads (1C2T) really helps in some games, you can get into some other games that won’t run on a single thread, and I think it could demonstrate the efficiency difference, if any, of SMT from Intel and AMD.
next video : Gaming on literally a single core.
Man oh man wish i could get these bad boys for testing but I am a very small channl
I'd you keep working at it you will could make it there!
Just be ready to go 5 or more years before finding success and keep your chin up and yeah, can definitely get there
Just don't worry about it. Make the best content you, embrace the grind, and it will happen eventually. Or it won't.
I tested using a 9900k vs R5 3600 in an x570 Motherboard. My conclusion: Intel sucks. It won't even Post. People say my tests are flawed and biased but I don't see it.
@@dakoderii4221 😅
"i think everybody should try that"
Bro that was my normal performance until last year when i bought i budget "gaming pc"
Lowest all 1080p csgo 12 to 27 frames per second
5:13 R.I.P. Risitas 😞
I never understood why more cores/threads is such a problem, like just download more gigahertz and cores bro smh
How do I download them pls teach me :(
@@cheese8089 I think it has something to do with deleting system 32...
@@justceez6552 oh ok
@@justceez6552 brooooo!!?! Wtf my mom's computer crashed and went death screen :(
@@justceez6552 how do I fix?
Bit too early, Time too sleep. Oh wait its about single core performance.
😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Now I know why this Is unlisted
@@ViviSaggio I always upload my videos the night before. It's to give it to process to 4K and sort out any monetization issues.
Long time no see glad you back in action
Hey Dawid, I just wanna say thank you for the great videos and I appreciate the effort you put into them!
3700x: I can't do any of that fancy price gouging that you Intels CPUs do. All I can do is FLEX, wanna see?
10850k: Maybe later
Great video thanks. It inspired me to try this single core gaing thing you speak of...well 1 core with hyper threading on. I have a Sandy Bridge i7 2600K@5.1GHz normally that is my daily OC. Today I turned off all but 1 core left HT enabled and cranked it up to 5.2GHz.
Only game I tried was Doom ET and it ran fine with these CPU settings. I never did the FPS bench if it has one built into Doom ET. I just ran around killed stuff. My MSI/Riva OSD stated I was getting between 105FPS to 150FPS...averaging 131FPS. CPU was only using 30 watts with 1 core and HT on. My game settings are Ultra Nightmare so I am not going easy on my system and this game. I did try with just 1 core no HT but Doom ET would not load just crashed and was the same thing with Doom 2016 on 1 core only.
Will try next 5.3GHz single core and HT enabled as I know this CPU is able to fully boot to WIndows at 5.3GHz and all cores enabled but it becomes warm in games at that speed with all cores going. It is good to know my old CPU still has enough in the tank to keep up with the big boys when looking at only IPC at least and MHz also I guess.
Edited: I forgot to mention CPU usage was about 78%-94%. I also tried BFV but it was a no go it would either just sit at a black screen or crash back to the desktop.
wow, tazing in the prostate, what a very vivid yet self-explanatory explanation
Great Job D!!! Def enjoyed this one!!
09:18 Every time a tech youtuber speaks about "a megahert", my butt becomes megahurt.
Do you want me to taze that for you? 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff maybe, but what if it hertz?
Another entertaining and awesome video! Thanks dude!
Limited Power!!! nice video mate.
When you said 'the normal Doom' I was totally expecting OG DOOM from the 90s.
My brain always runs on 1 core.
Me too my brain runs on half of a core.
You're one of the lucky ones it seems.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff females pffff!!
My brain doesn't even have hyperthreading😥
I do think you should go and do a sequel later as you sayed
love your videos keep it up
I love u man brilliant vid as usual thanks
Your GTA V single-core performance is what I get when I play GTA SA during my online classes.. (Pentium gang :( )
1:45 How is the 1% low for GTA V 188 when the average is 133. Unless it's a 1% high?
Well now we know what a 10th gen celeron vs zen 2 sempron battle would look like
Highly amusing and quite more informative than I expected.
Wow, keep up the crazy videos
"im going to test it in the stupidest way possible" i wouldn't want it any other way, thats why im subbed
Can you do a review for for the 1337pcs desktops? They look really good and they're affordable but I would love to see a review from you first
08:09 looks just like when i played ets 2 on my old pentium d 820 and gt 710 1gb :)
It can be difficult to get through to people, even some very smart people, that clock rate is an abysmal metric unless you're comparing like with like.
A 10980 running at 4.8ghz vs a 10980 running at 5.3ghz is a fair comparison.
A 10980 running at 4.8ghz versus some messed up LN2-cooled Z80 running at 5.3ghz is not.
Nice to see a video that shows this graphically. Also nice to see the whole "games depend entirely on single core performance" myth put to bed. Sure there's a main game loop, and sure that needs one core to be doing a lot of work, but game devs know that multi-core is just how things are these days, and they're doing what they can to shift all kinds of work off to helper threads and secondary processes.
I want to see that 5.3GHz Z80 just because.
If you pick an i9... pick a Ryzen 9, what an unfair test!
Yet AMD can still win sometimes!
Definitely try with hyperthreading, 1 core 2 threads was average in early 2000s!
Very confused why is the video unlisted?
How do people keep seeing my unlisted videos? 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Appeared under "Component Videos" on your channel home page
@@GarryJon Oh, I thought I removed it from. Anyway you got an early preview.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You better keep it unlisted, those benchmark numbers are horrendous
@@DawidDoesTechStuff lol
1:40 how was the avg fps lower than 1% in GTA 5
the only time disabling cores was useful for me was when I upgraded my Latitude E6540 from a i7 4610M to a i7 4810MQ. What I didn't realize i also had to upgrade from the 90watt charger to a 130watt charger. so when that was on the way, if I didn't disable 2 core it would hella throttle no more than about 1GHz.
If Steve is Tech Jesus, then you're Tech Sisyphus. I tip my hat to you, sir.
Steve isn't Tech Jesus anymore lol
A little late to this one, I really like this concept. Back in the day Tom's Hardware did something like this titled "Tom's CPU Architecture Shootout: 16 CPUs, One Core Each, And 3 GHz". These days I think a 2 or 4 core at 4ghz IPC shootout would be pretty awesome.
It's a perfect time to do this. Then do it again in a few weeks.
What motherboard is he using for the intel build the white one
piece junk NZXT board stay away from it
Reminds me of when I got my optiplex i7-3770 to only 1 core no hyperthreading, just running basic apps was painfully slow compared to the pretty fast speed it had
You should have tried Crysis. Next time try some games that actually works on 1 core and see which one does better.
Predicted the future with this test, almost. . .
What can I say? Another great video!
Can you compare them ? Using the 2070 super to see if they make a difference? People only use 2080ti’s but I don’t have one so that would help!
cool video but would be cool to use an older game like HalfLife1 or Starcraft that was designed for single core.
Where do you get all of these analogies?
When you downcore the Ryzen it's L3 cache/core increases.
You basically have an entire CCX's worth of L3 to back that single core.
Monstrous
Now imagine Ryzen 5000 with their 32MB of available cache...
That's pure OP power...
@@rodrigofilho1996 basically ryzen 5000 will annihilate Intel upcoming rocket lake cpu.. AMD has clearly has an advantagr.. Ryzen 5000 is OP!
@@alialtaf3412 do you even know the specs of the rocket lake or you try to predict?
I dont need to turn my pc cores off, i used to play games on an athlon 2 dual core and chipset graphics
Haha!! Than you fully understand the experience. 😅
It would be interesting to find out the minimum amount of cores needed to optimally run your game benchmarks, then compare the CPU temps before and after disabling the cores. Then maybe comparing the CPU performance and temps to a comparable CPU (cores matching cores).
As someone who use to use a dual core for gaming a few short years ago...I could have told you that wasn't going to end well, lol.
Somebody was bored. How many years do you have to go back to find a single core CPU now?
anywhere from 15 to 20 years....before you were born im assuming
@@matthewplehn4271 2010 seems to be when single cores were being phased out. I think I still have an AMD Sempron in the PC junk closet.
You need to test the original Dead Space, Portal, Half-life 2 or Spore, because they all can run in one core but its intersting to see just how much of the core it uses.
What about single core performance on old games vs old single core cpus, or vs the best single core cpus?
Darn, I was hoping a good celeron would be ok for gaming.
I would recommend getting claymidya for the experience
Interesting video.
And to think that I used to run two instances of an MMO (SWG) on one core. :)
Just a tip for next time, you can set core affinity in the task manager. So you can start with all cores for the game then remove them as its running. Running GTA on 3 cores :)
You will be able to test the 5000 series if they don't get scalped😬
Thanks for a good review. I do have a P4 550 3.4 1 core and an Athlon X2 6000+ with old GT640 and GT 8600 (the P4 on its 2nd MB, since the first one died after 10 years of service 2004-2014). Only really old games work on them. But they are good for UA-cam, google apps, and e-mail. So I can stop trying to run GTA V from steam on them.
Can you make a review on the msi infinite prebuilt
Can you give instructions how to lock cores?
Try 5990x single thread as soon as you can get one. Did you adjust the settings in each game to reduce the CPU load as much as possible?
Should I get the intel 10850k or amd ryzen 5800x btw great video
Pls make a vid where you upgrade mac fron mac os to windows 10
I appreciate the amount of effort put into this video, thank you! I just got an i9-10850k and it’s heaven
My AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition with my GTX 560 would do ~20fps in GTA V from my recollection. I gamed on that system for years. Eventually the stuttering becomes so common place that you accepted it for what it is, and you couldn't afford to upgrade.
But then games come out like No Man's Sky. That refuse to run without 'special versions' of the game's executable, that made me just go... "You know what... It's time to bite the bullet."
Should I do 5000 series build or this
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 7 X CO CPU
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max WiFi ATX AM4
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18
Storage: Corsair MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX
Case Fan [x2]: ARCTIC P12 PWM 56.3 CFM 120 mm
Either way im still gaming on 4 9th gen core 2 quad cores at 3.4 GHz. And yes it can run Crysis.
Can you order a omen pre built and do a review on ir
I meant on it
so what was the multithread score on cinebench
Make sure you use the R7 5800x vs the I9 10850k. If you do this again when the next gen CPU's come out.
1 core with hyperthreading would be cool too
Should test an i3 9100f it's pretty decent and Its my first ever cpu( sorry for buying a prebuilt)
I think ryzen perfomed better because it has much bigger l3 cache than intel cpu so games that takes advantage of that has more breathing room. Also it would be interesting if you test/mess around more with core/thread configuration, something like running single core with SMT, or trying only 3 active cores for gaming.
I wonder what you could oc those to, running 1 core and all
1:51 is it just me or is the non hyperthreaded performance of gta higher than the hyperthreaded performance
Could you wait for 11th gen to do a comparison or do 2 comparisons?
Might be related to your findings (a Zen 2 core is smoother/stronger), but even when I load all cores of my Threadripper 3970x at 100% with 3D rendering, I can still use my PC perfectly fine without any stuttering or lagging. It feels like my PC isn't even loaded at all. Good job, AMD! I can only imagine what the Zen 3 core is capable of.
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I gamed on a literal single core with a Celeron for 6 years its not fun. Now im a rocking a R7 3700x and its amazing
What is your PC build for all the talk you do? lol genuinely curious
shows you how fast the world changes ... just ten years ago most games were still single threaded.
Why do you compare i9 to r7 and not to r9
I see dawid does tech stuff
I click
By any chance did you oc the 10850k I got mine to 5ghz at 1.275v
Wouldnt tasing the prostate be a good thing cpu wise
how would the games perform on a single cpu core on a amd 5800 3D
Interesting. Is it single core with SMT/HT?
Can you please do single core editing
does this impact the power comsumption?
Well, I guess that single-core performance 'isn't' all that matters for games! I sure am glad they moved beyond 1-core CPU's.
Was hyperthreading enabled for single core?