Hi Ollie lived in Hulme 1990-94. I know I've posted it before but here's my poem about Hulme: "Streets in the Sky" The streets in the sky have all gone... The concrete, the crustys, the Crescents are no longer there.. All the hippys and punks And droputs and drunks and weirdoes and junkies have all done a bunk! The Eagle's been grounded, The Checkered Flag's been flown, The Spinners stopped spinning and the last film's been shown at the Aaben cinetheque. The streets inthe sky have all gone.... And now no trace remains of the cube shaped estates They threw up for twenty years and then threw away, "Dreamscapes" of reinforced concrete and glass, with gas central heating in every flat and maisonette, It's so easy now to forget the graffitti scrawl wallpaper, The deck access walkways, The squatters, Punx picnics on hot summer days, The streets in the sky have all gone.... So goodby Charles Barry, the memories we carry are with us wherever we move, Farewell William Kent How much time was spent collecting the poll tax from you? Adieu Robert Adam... Good times we had 'em There was always something going on, it's true! So long John Nash How much hash was scored through your steel shuttered doors? The streets in the sky have all gone!
Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
I visited Manchester today for the first time in 50 years. Shock and disbelieving at the massive blocks of flats everywhere you looked in architecture designed from a psychotic episode. My old Victorian slum house I grew up in was still standing however ! ! Pleased to see it before I pass into oblivion.
My older brother was married in 1969, and he and his wife moved into the 14th-floor flat of St Georges Court in Hulme. As a 13-year-old, I cycled from Ladybarn on my Raleigh Chopper to visit them. I remember cycling over the newly constructed bridge on Bonsall Street and through the Hulme Crescents construction site; it was just as hellish before they were built as after! A few years later, around 1977, I did voluntary work at Proctors Youth Centre for a few months.
I had many good friends, went to great parties and even DJ-ed in the Crescents! Good times! That picture of the Henry royce at 17:56 was taken by me! It's an honour to see it in one of your great productions!
Me and my mates used to go to the blues in the crescents after The Thunderdome before heading back to Benchill. Multiple nightclubs and bars in the flats lol. Good Times.
Thank you for this, being from a "timber, sawing, CMC" part of Sweden, I really feel this. And I love Manchester! So much to love, even after a "trying to rob me". Didn't work at all. We had a pint and he cried. Withington is where I stayed, nice place.
Thanks for this Ollie. I lived in Hulme on and off between 1978 and 2015 and I think this is the best synopsis Ive heard. Its not the best place to get old so I bailed, but I also missed the buzz that existed in the 80s 90s which felt like a community both under siege and neglected at the same time. The fact that it was colonised by the youth of the time gave it real attitude and was something to witness. Keep it up anyway. Seen all your vids. Top marks.
An excellent account, spot on. Great archive footage, well written script, full of information. Small point: Princess Parkway is only south of the Mersey! North, it's Princess Road. Hulme is a fascinating district. I went to the Russell Club and saw Joy Division there.
What a great documentary. I grew up on a very small council estate (21 houses) in a village in Kent. These ex-council houses now sell for £600,000 or more because of the location of 'Pretty rural village' My siblings can not afford to live the place they grew up in and this will be the same for other children. I never believed that the selling off of social housing was a good thing. The beautiful place I new as a child in the 1950,60's is now only available to the well off. Social housing does not have to mean poor housing.
I don't even live near Manchester, but I'm aware of the Hulme flats through my interest in that kind of unforgiving architecture - I find it fascinating that these types of estates promised the Utopian dream, and yet delivered the complete opposite - misery and deprivation. This is an excellent video and account of what went wrong with Hulme. I loved the archive material as well.
As a kid, we visited an 'auntie' in Hulme, mum and her nattering in the kitchen while us kids played in the first Hulme conversion building site from bricks and mortar to concrete. I first lived in Hulme as a squatter high up on Epping Walk where, in a single week, a man had battered his missus over a balcony where she fell twenty or more feet and a five-week-old baby was found in one of the big old bins - nice. Not all bad, though - I was part of a ragtag theatre troupe and we put on Snoo Wilson's The Beast onstage live at the Russell Club - that confused the hell out of the locals!!. I finally came back just over 7 years ago to the place I always could see or walk through but they were older, brick-buiult, full of musos and artists with loads of trees all around and I thought I wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting one - but here I am - greetings from The Redbricks!! Great vid. Thanks
Great video. I'm an architect and it is refreshing to hear the reality that buildings aren't the cause for social housing failures, its deprivation. Park Hill in Sheffield is a good example, now it is not deprived of maintenance, not deprived of transport to employment and not deprived of local services, and it is a desireable place to live.
This is one of your best videos yet!!! Thank you Olly! Me and my partner are always searching your name and waiting for your uploads, we’ve watched every single one. Keep up the brilliant work, it’s appreciated and enjoyed 😊
One of the longer-term impacts of WW2 / the Blitz was a near-suicidal approach to planning and novel housing approaches. Out with the old, in with the new. Without much consideration for the lost organic communities and at the expense of the pedestrian.
Exactly the samething happened in Liverpool. I still remember families living in prefabs in 1975. The corporation built housing schemes on the edge of the city netherley, kirby, cantrelfarm etc. The young families were miles away from their extended families. When they got there, there was not a lot there. The shops shut at 5 or 6, no supermarkets, not a lot for the kids to do. Having said that, they were quite safe for kids. I have quite fond memories of 1974 living in netherley Most of the housing schemes got knocked a few decades later
Visited Manchester a few times, but this is a very good, well researched and presented post, it could apply to many towns in the UK, thank you for a super watch, loved it.
Really enjoyed this video. It was very well presented in a factual, non-emotive way which is sadly not how a lot of mainstream TV is presented. Well done.
Ollie, I know I live a bit over 5000 miles away, but we went through a very similar thing. Many major cities back about the same time built large residential areas with tower blocks that have mostly failed. One that was a success, post war and it's huge, is Park La Brea Apartments, they're at 6200 W 3rd Street, Los Angeles. For me it's the working class that makes a city great. Another well researched video with enjoyable narration........
Thanks again mate. There are so many cities around the world that went through a similar postwar story when it came to housing. I'll have to look into those apartments in Los Angeles though! Anyway glad you liked the video. I wanted to make one about Hulme that spoke about the people not just the buildings. Take care
Thanks for this. I started work in 1968 in central Manchester and used to get the 222 bus home to my parent;s house in Sale in the evening, from Piccadilly. The bus went along the southern edge of the building site (probably along Stretford Road) that was the Hulme Crescents under construction. They looked pretty grim even then.
I know of a play that begins with a surveyor with a labourer and string. He turns to the audience and says "We're marking out the land for Dwellings for the labouring classes!" The labourer turns to the audience and says "They're really for teachers and civil servants. Not the likes of me"
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
A mighty very well produced documentary of this Manchester suburb, Ollie. It's so interesting to see how this place has had it's ups and downs from slum clearance in the sixties to uncomfortable blocks of flats of the seventies to a more settled present day atmosphere. Full marks for this presentation, and if you ever cover any other Manchester districts, that would be most welcome to many followers of yours, I'm sure.
I lived in one of those houses until 1963 - you show a filthy house with a disgusting toilet and and grimy kitchen scene and call it 'hell on earth' - my mum kept the house spotless - the toilet never looked like that. All the houses in that street I'd been in were scrupulously clean and the women used to use a sort of 'chalk' to colour doorsteps white or sometimes orange. The toilet was outside and we had only cold running water - we had to boil water if we wanted it hot. But we did not know any better and I remember it as a happy time with my parents.
I just moved to Hulme from a terrace built at a similar time in York next to where the old power station was. Whilst I think the new Hulme is nice I do wonder what Hulme would be today had it not been cleared, if those individual homes had been renovated by their residents.
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
In the late 80s to the mid 90s I found Hulme fascinating. All the squats. Travellers, remember the unofficial Hulme taxis? I didn't live there myself but I knew a few folk who did. I occasionally parked up in Otterbourne. I had a black Vega bus followed by a nato green commer van. It was handy for a night out in Manchester. I'm sure the big party when it was all pulled down was good.. only I can't really remember it. 🤔
Great content & keep up the great work from a fellow northerner. I did guess Joy Division, but yes what you document here can be repeated in many Northern towns, their best intentions fell foul, please keep up the great work.
From recent articles on studentification/gentrification of Hulme: "We've lost everything,... We have nothing in this area. Everything is for students. We have one bar, but when older people try to go in they've been told this is not really for you."; "There’s a lot of students here and the rents have gone up because of the students and there’s a lack of accommodation.". And on how it may be losing its desirability: "Since 2022... those looking to purchase a property in the M15 postcode, which covers Hulme, can now expect to pay around £256,840 for the average home, which is a reduction of a huge £62,000, around 19 percent."; "...the houses here are not really the kind of houses you would buy now and expect to have the same value in 30 years... like they’re made out of paper, they don’t have any inherent value." And drugs: "... It’s very visible that people are using drugs. It’s sad because sometimes they do it in the morning when I’m taking my children to school which is not nice.”
I grew up in hulme the second reincarnation i loved it It was scary for outsiders but everyone knew each other I don't know it now it's changed that much
My grandparents and my mum left Hulme for Benchill, Wythenshawe in 1933 when my mum was just four years old. The forward planning started well before 1945.
My parents and grandparents lived in Hulme until the mid-60s when they moved to a new council estate. I was six months old when they moved. Thank you for a very interesting video of the part of Manchester I came from.
What a fantastic and well-researched documentary - thanks so much for putting it together! I totally agree with the final point you made about the threat from gentrification - Manchester's recent redevelopment has largely pushed out working class people in places like Ancoats, and consequently Hulme is one of the last places surrounding the city centre to still retain its social mix. However, the shedding of its negative reputation over the last 10-15 years has led to an increase in desirability and consequently rising rents - sadly I can see it becoming an exclusively middle class neighbourhood within another decade without some kind of intervention.
Cant believe ive not seen this one yet. Hulme has always fascinated me for many reasons. And, weve had family in& out of there since very early 20C. Gna watch this on my night shift later. 👊
Another superb video mate, I used to get Hulme and Cheadle Hulme mixed up, couldn't be more different eh!!! 🤣🤣 Wasn't the famous photograph of Joy Division taken on a snow covered bridge over Mancunian Way in Hulme?
Great video ..I used to visit friends there in the 80s some place were bad other were OK..but I don't know if memory fails me but I am sure there was an art Cinema there..
Great video, i visited the crescents as a kid in the early 80s, my cousin briefly lived their, they were truly horrific. Poorly built and ill though. Glad to see Hulme finally getting the housing it so deserves. Albeit i find gentrification slightly disappointing, but thats the way of the world i guess.
I remember going to one of the museums in Liverpool and being so shocked that large areas there had a similar experience. Such radical, non stop change just doesn't seem to be something that works for humans.
Lived in Hulme 2005-2014. Still had a chilled out, art and hippie vibe about it at the beginning, with not developed, green areas. Rents were affordable and I loved the close proximity to the city centre. But then they've built the MMU campus in 2012 (over green space). Rents had shot up, students moved in, with their party lifestyle, and it stopped being a good value for money place to live for professionals and families. It's a student village now.
Lived nrby in the lat 80s early 90s when i was a Pup... absolute hellscape, the noises from 'Fort Ardwick' at night would scare a Vampire to death..... awful
Hulme sweet Hulme , one of the best communities ive ever lived in , true neighbours who looked out for each other , to those looking in a concrete ghetto , but for its residents a place of friendship and warmth ,,,,its the people that make a place , and we made Hulme brilliant now its a place where that community spirit struggles to exist , we even have folk sleeping rough there , this was never allowed when the crescents was up as we would open an empty flat and give that person a home , now its for those that are willing and able to pay for living a mile from the city centre ,,, it is no longer Hulme sweet Hulme ,
Interesting stuff, although im not sure that Hulme is considered a desirable place to live. I know it well; it's a dense, overpopulated low income area, much like everything else on the perimeter of the city centre. Full of buy to let housing and little sense of community.
You forgot to mention it was the valium prescribing capitol of Mcr, and that you had to have your wits about you when walking around those crescents lest a TV or old arm chair hit you on the head. Thats my recollection of 70z and early 80z Hulme. And there was no continuity. The original native "people of Hulme" were scattered and a process of demographic replacement ensued where different people were bundled together that were never going to commune in a wholesome way.
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
I lived in the Redbricks and miss Hulme’s boho mix and strong sense of community; no matter your background everyone spoke to each other. But I got priced-out and had to leave Manchester. F*ck Landlords and Capitalism.
lol mallowdale yuppies , we used to play them every sunday at footie , the crescent peasents v mallowdale yuppies , and the red brickers got battered every sunday lol ,
@@BeeHereNowuk there is a documentary called the Pruitt Igoe myth, that documents the failure of the housing estate... You might find it online... It's well worth watching... The famous American Postmodern architecture critic Charles Jencks said 'that the demolition of Pruitt Igoe, was the 'End of Modern Architecture': His comment is often seen as a watershed moment in the history of modern architecture... Fun Fact: The Japanese architect Minoru Yamasaki who designed Pruitt Igoe housing development which was demolished soon after after it was built also designed the original World Trade Centre Twin towers! Make of that what you will..
Great video, I have lived in Hulme for the past 16 years, super convienient for the city centre and a melting pot of all kinds of people. it is areally good place to live.
Am I right? The original Hulme slums were back to backs? I once went into one, and it was a horrible experience. Anyone who wants to know, google “back to back” and you’ll have a shiver down yer spine. Anyways, me point: the 1960s brutalism was shite, but long way better than the hell that people lived in before. Ok, UA-cam comments, I’m ready for yer…
@ 18:00. Oh please. Don’t talk noble twaddle about criminals and squatters as if they were some sort of Robin Hoods. They intimidated and victimised people.
how so ? i squatted in Hulme for 5 years , and yes i shoplifte in the city centre , but at no point did i ever intimidate or victimise any one , i think you speak from a lack of experience please prove me wrong
As a Mancunian who lived in Thamesmead, South London, for 7 years in the 1990s, I can assure you the same mistakes were made in London and elsewhere in the South East.
Oh please. Get the chip of your shoulder. 1: there’s plenty of Chitty schemes like this in the south. 2: These were pretty much instituted by the people YOU voted for aka your local councils. I know it’s hard to look in the mirror - it’s human nature not to want to take the blame for doing something yourself.
Have a listen from 3m 30 on and what is said; "A cautionary tale for all that followed, not just here but across Europe" Amazing achievement by those southerners to manage this across Europe too - and all because they wanted to treat the people of the North badly and not because they shared the same myopic kind of vision that you do.
I live in sussex and theres tons of poverty here some of my exes are from north and there is wealth there ,politcians and business get away with what they want whenever for cash.
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
It was a den of violence and crime. Not changed much either You must work for an estate agent with the choice of words in how you describe the place. I grew up in an area next door to it in the 70's that was demolished so as to move the community that was excellent,but the homes just needed modernization. But the town planner's & so called architects in there wisdom came up with this abomination. Glad I got out of the urban jungle 👍
Brutalist architecture, especially flats and dwellings never work. Depressing, too many rat runs, encouraging crime. Soul less places. You question the mentality and short sightedness of the council ‘architects’. Bloody thick.
Yes, architects were by brainwashed by university lecturers in the 1960s who worshipped Charles-Edouard Jeanneret who pretentiously called himself Le Corbusier. This bloke did more to ruin towns and cities than did the German Luftwaffe.
Corbusier's twee gimmicky concrete craphouses ("machines for living") were just an excuse to justify imposing those system-built jail-blocks on the little people. Corruption was at the heart of it all and the perpetrators got off without having to reimburse a penny of the hundreds of millions of debt left behind when their short-lived 'Projects' had to be torn down and replaced.
@@jamesgibson7954 fun-fact from Germany: we have the same opinion regarding our city-councils and architects here at my place, the "Ruhr", the RAF wasn't that bad for our cities as the planners of the late sixties and seventies. Cold concrete in the flat field. Created many of the present problems.
Hulme looks rather Humiliating in the 1970s, but then with a 3 day working week and coal strikes, life was fairly bleak everywhere. Sadly, the Gov.t seem to want the streets to return to this state, or at least, seem to do nothing to stop the ASBO mob. Around my way, the shop owners are so fed up with idiots smashing the shop windows, they just leave them smashed. Life was at lease more hopeful back then, sadly.
hulmites are rightly proud of the community spirit they had in the time of the terraces then the crescents ,,,, hulme now is a soulless place its community scattered to the 4 corners of the globe , ,,dont be so down on us we made Hulme good we are the people who made a great community ,
22:30 top down policies never work, that's why communism has and/or will fail(ed) 100% of the time 100% of the times it's been tried and so of course the "new" urban design of Hulme failed as have similar projects in the west, not just in the UK, From Glasgow to Chicago (Illinois) to many places in the Paris metropolitan region.
Sorry but i was born an bred there till i was about 12. Now its nice i havnt a chace to get a flat there.. ye they took me an ma mqm an 2 siblings. It destroyed my mum an my gran who lived there. My nan got me an we moved into abnother new housing project, called West gorton, where they eventually started to film Shameless. A year later after them spending 7 thound pound, then because the MANCHESTER COUNCIL, WERE EMBARESSED WHEN THE AMERICANS PUCKED UP THE SCRIPT AN WENT WITH IT.. THEY SPENT YEARS ON w/gorton, BUT 7 MILLION POUND WAS SCRAPPED AN RIPOEDapart an area that was a community.. the same ere in Birkenhead.
Hi Ollie lived in Hulme 1990-94. I know I've posted it before but here's my poem about Hulme:
"Streets in the Sky"
The streets in the sky have all gone...
The concrete, the crustys, the Crescents are no longer there..
All the hippys and punks
And droputs and drunks
and weirdoes and junkies have all done a bunk!
The Eagle's been grounded,
The Checkered Flag's been flown,
The Spinners stopped spinning
and the last film's been shown at the Aaben cinetheque.
The streets inthe sky have all gone....
And now no trace remains of the cube shaped estates
They threw up for twenty years and then threw away,
"Dreamscapes" of reinforced concrete and glass,
with gas central heating in every flat and maisonette,
It's so easy now to forget the graffitti scrawl wallpaper,
The deck access walkways,
The squatters,
Punx picnics on hot summer days,
The streets in the sky have all gone....
So goodby Charles Barry,
the memories we carry are with us wherever we move,
Farewell William Kent
How much time was spent collecting the poll tax from you?
Adieu Robert Adam...
Good times we had 'em
There was always something going on, it's true!
So long John Nash
How much hash was scored through your steel shuttered doors?
The streets in the sky have all gone!
Amazing! Thanks Jimmy. That's perfect!!
Lovely poem
Outstanding.
My punk big sister lived on Bonsal St, and her boyfriend at Robert Adams Cresent in late 80s early 90s.
Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
I visited Manchester today for the first time in 50 years.
Shock and disbelieving at the massive blocks of flats everywhere you looked in architecture designed from a psychotic episode.
My old Victorian slum house I grew up in was still standing however ! !
Pleased to see it before I pass into oblivion.
I bet Tony Wilson would be proud of all these videos of Manchester. Keep up the good work, Ollie.
I worked with a bloke in the 1990s who lived in a flat in Hulme in one of those blocks. He rented it for just £5 a week !
My older brother was married in 1969, and he and his wife moved into the 14th-floor flat of St Georges Court in Hulme. As a 13-year-old, I cycled from Ladybarn on my Raleigh Chopper to visit them. I remember cycling over the newly constructed bridge on Bonsall Street and through the Hulme Crescents construction site; it was just as hellish before they were built as after!
A few years later, around 1977, I did voluntary work at Proctors Youth Centre for a few months.
I had many good friends, went to great parties and even DJ-ed in the Crescents! Good times! That picture of the Henry royce at 17:56 was taken by me! It's an honour to see it in one of your great productions!
Me and my mates used to go to the blues in the crescents after The Thunderdome before heading back to Benchill. Multiple nightclubs and bars in the flats lol. Good Times.
Thank you for this, being from a "timber, sawing, CMC" part of Sweden, I really feel this. And I love Manchester! So much to love, even after a "trying to rob me". Didn't work at all. We had a pint and he cried.
Withington is where I stayed, nice place.
Thanks for this Ollie. I lived in Hulme on and off between 1978 and 2015 and I think this is the best synopsis Ive heard. Its not the best place to get old so I bailed, but I also missed the buzz that existed in the 80s 90s which felt like a community both under siege and neglected at the same time. The fact that it was colonised by the youth of the time gave it real attitude and was something to witness.
Keep it up anyway. Seen all your vids. Top marks.
Thank you very much, glad you liked the video and had a good experience in Hulme
An excellent account, spot on. Great archive footage, well written script, full of information. Small point: Princess Parkway is only south of the Mersey! North, it's Princess Road. Hulme is a fascinating district. I went to the Russell Club and saw Joy Division there.
Glad you liked the video and you're right about Princess road. I make that mistake all the time 🙄
Excellent bit of work. Highly informative and well documented. Well done.
What a great documentary. I grew up on a very small council estate (21 houses) in a village in Kent. These ex-council houses now sell for £600,000 or more because of the location of 'Pretty rural village' My siblings can not afford to live the place they grew up in and this will be the same for other children. I never believed that the selling off of social housing was a good thing. The beautiful place I new as a child in the 1950,60's is now only available to the well off. Social housing does not have to mean poor housing.
Couldn't agree more mate 👍
What an excellent documentary. I hope this gets more views!
Thanks very much! 😁
I don't even live near Manchester, but I'm aware of the Hulme flats through my interest in that kind of unforgiving architecture - I find it fascinating that these types of estates promised the Utopian dream, and yet delivered the complete opposite - misery and deprivation. This is an excellent video and account of what went wrong with Hulme. I loved the archive material as well.
As a kid, we visited an 'auntie' in Hulme, mum and her nattering in the kitchen while us kids played in the first Hulme conversion building site from bricks and mortar to concrete.
I first lived in Hulme as a squatter high up on Epping Walk where, in a single week, a man had battered his missus over a balcony where she fell twenty or more feet and a five-week-old baby was found in one of the big old bins - nice.
Not all bad, though - I was part of a ragtag theatre troupe and we put on Snoo Wilson's The Beast onstage live at the Russell Club - that confused the hell out of the locals!!.
I finally came back just over 7 years ago to the place I always could see or walk through but they were older, brick-buiult, full of musos and artists with loads of trees all around and I thought I wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting one - but here I am - greetings from The Redbricks!! Great vid. Thanks
I love this story and the redbricks !!
Great video. I'm an architect and it is refreshing to hear the reality that buildings aren't the cause for social housing failures, its deprivation. Park Hill in Sheffield is a good example, now it is not deprived of maintenance, not deprived of transport to employment and not deprived of local services, and it is a desireable place to live.
Absolutely! Places need services. Even buildings with disadvantages can work with enough effort
You beat me to it in regards to Park Hill. Right next to the main railway station in Sheffield, good bus links and the Trams as well.
This is one of your best videos yet!!! Thank you Olly! Me and my partner are always searching your name and waiting for your uploads, we’ve watched every single one. Keep up the brilliant work, it’s appreciated and enjoyed 😊
Thank you that's lovely to hear. Hopefully I don't disappoint 😁
One of the longer-term impacts of WW2 / the Blitz was a near-suicidal approach to planning and novel housing approaches. Out with the old, in with the new. Without much consideration for the lost organic communities and at the expense of the pedestrian.
Exactly the samething happened in Liverpool. I still remember families living in prefabs in 1975. The corporation built housing schemes on the edge of the city netherley, kirby, cantrelfarm etc. The young families were miles away from their extended families. When they got there, there was not a lot there. The shops shut at 5 or 6, no supermarkets, not a lot for the kids to do. Having said that, they were quite safe for kids. I have quite fond memories of 1974 living in netherley
Most of the housing schemes got knocked a few decades later
Visited Manchester a few times, but this is a very good, well researched and presented post, it could apply to many towns in the UK, thank you for a super watch, loved it.
Really enjoyed this video. It was very well presented in a factual, non-emotive way which is sadly not how a lot of mainstream TV is presented. Well done.
Ollie, I know I live a bit over 5000 miles away, but we went through a very similar thing. Many major cities back about the same time built large residential areas with tower blocks that have mostly failed. One that was a success, post war and it's huge, is Park La Brea Apartments, they're at 6200 W 3rd Street, Los Angeles. For me it's the working class that makes a city great. Another well researched video with enjoyable narration........
Thanks again mate. There are so many cities around the world that went through a similar postwar story when it came to housing. I'll have to look into those apartments in Los Angeles though! Anyway glad you liked the video. I wanted to make one about Hulme that spoke about the people not just the buildings. Take care
Thanks for this. I started work in 1968 in central Manchester and used to get the 222 bus home to my parent;s house in Sale in the evening, from Piccadilly. The bus went along the southern edge of the building site (probably along Stretford Road) that was the Hulme Crescents under construction.
They looked pretty grim even then.
We were moved to Sale (ashton on mersey) in 1963 and I remember the 222 (from town) and the 223 (to town).
I know of a play that begins with a surveyor with a labourer and string. He turns to the audience and says "We're marking out the land for Dwellings for the labouring classes!"
The labourer turns to the audience and says "They're really for teachers and civil servants. Not the likes of me"
A fascinating insight into post war Britain architecture up to modern day & a place that is mostly unknown to southerners such as meself. Great stuff.
Fantastic video! ❤ reminds me of Ashfield (Ashy) Valley in Rochdale which had a similar fate with its 1960s urban living dream....
An excellent video as always. Very interesting and informative, keep up the good work.
Bringing back many memories, in the 80’s I had lived in Hulme council house for two years. The worst and best time of my life.
Brilliant Documentary that thank you, i lived in Hulme 1981 to 1983, I loved every minute.. An important part of my life
Your films just keep getting better. Well done, mate.
Aw thanks very much ☺️
Brilliant video. Really enjoyed this. Thanks for sharing. Your knowledge is amazing 😊
So nice of you
Excellent work. Cracking little documentary, must have been a lot of work.
Many thanks! It took a while 😂
Absolutely brilliant . I had friends in Hulme throughout the 80s, 90s and noughties.. Such an accurate description you deliver
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Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Love this video, spent most of my childhood in Hulme and it was great to see this! You never disappoint with your brilliant videos
A mighty very well produced documentary of this Manchester suburb, Ollie. It's so interesting to see how this place has had it's ups and downs from slum clearance in the sixties to uncomfortable blocks of flats of the seventies to a more settled present day atmosphere. Full marks for this presentation, and if you ever cover any other Manchester districts, that would be most welcome to many followers of yours, I'm sure.
Thanks once again. Glad you liked it!
I lived in one of those houses until 1963 - you show a filthy house with a disgusting toilet and and grimy kitchen scene and call it 'hell on earth' - my mum kept the house spotless - the toilet never looked like that. All the houses in that street I'd been in were scrupulously clean and the women used to use a sort of 'chalk' to colour doorsteps white or sometimes orange. The toilet was outside and we had only cold running water - we had to boil water if we wanted it hot. But we did not know any better and I remember it as a happy time with my parents.
I just moved to Hulme from a terrace built at a similar time in York next to where the old power station was. Whilst I think the new Hulme is nice I do wonder what Hulme would be today had it not been cleared, if those individual homes had been renovated by their residents.
What a great video! Thanks for the knowledge 👊🏼
My pleasure!
An excellent documentary. The YT algorithm isn't entirely bad it seems. Subbed with best wishes.
Much better than the TV, watching these videos.
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today
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There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Great video pal. Lived In John Nash crescent in the early-mid 1980's. Loved it.
In the late 80s to the mid 90s I found Hulme fascinating. All the squats. Travellers, remember the unofficial Hulme taxis?
I didn't live there myself but I knew a few folk who did.
I occasionally parked up in Otterbourne. I had a black Vega bus followed by a nato green commer van.
It was handy for a night out in Manchester.
I'm sure the big party when it was all pulled down was good.. only I can't really remember it. 🤔
Same here! Am still obsessed with Hulme Crescents even though they no longer stand.
No place like it!!! Glad it's made a come-back!!! It always had a vibe regardless of planners!
Great content & keep up the great work from a fellow northerner.
I did guess Joy Division, but yes what you document here can be repeated in many Northern towns, their best intentions fell foul, please keep up the great work.
From recent articles on studentification/gentrification of Hulme: "We've lost everything,... We have nothing in this area. Everything is for students. We have one bar, but when older people try to go in they've been told this is not really for you."; "There’s a lot of students here and the rents have gone up because of the students and there’s a lack of accommodation.". And on how it may be losing its desirability: "Since 2022... those looking to purchase a property in the M15 postcode, which covers Hulme, can now expect to pay around £256,840 for the average home, which is a reduction of a huge £62,000, around 19 percent."; "...the houses here are not really the kind of houses you would buy now and expect to have the same value in 30 years... like they’re made out of paper, they don’t have any inherent value." And drugs: "... It’s very visible that people are using drugs. It’s sad because sometimes they do it in the morning when I’m taking my children to school which is not nice.”
I lived in Swansea prior to lockdown and it had a similar vibe. I'v never been made to feel more uncomfortable for having a job and renting.
Brilliant! Loved that! So well made 👏🏻
We were one of the first families to move into the crescents - we moved there in 1969 and moved out in 1978.
An architect said once "The estate looked lovely as a model on the table".
Very interesting and well presented, thank you enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it. Many thanks 👍🏽
Another fantastic video Ollie, loved this ❤
Thanks so much 😊 Glad you liked it
I grew up in hulme the second reincarnation i loved it It was scary for outsiders but everyone knew each other I don't know it now it's changed that much
Did you live in one of the crescents?
@perky26hughes next to em in the maisonettes
My grandparents and my mum left Hulme for Benchill, Wythenshawe in 1933 when my mum was just four years old. The forward planning started well before 1945.
My parents and grandparents lived in Hulme until the mid-60s when they moved to a new council estate. I was six months old when they moved. Thank you for a very interesting video of the part of Manchester I came from.
What a fantastic and well-researched documentary - thanks so much for putting it together!
I totally agree with the final point you made about the threat from gentrification - Manchester's recent redevelopment has largely pushed out working class people in places like Ancoats, and consequently Hulme is one of the last places surrounding the city centre to still retain its social mix. However, the shedding of its negative reputation over the last 10-15 years has led to an increase in desirability and consequently rising rents - sadly I can see it becoming an exclusively middle class neighbourhood within another decade without some kind of intervention.
Another excellent documentary. I love your radical, humane and ultimately optimistic worldview.
Cant believe ive not seen this one yet.
Hulme has always fascinated me for many reasons.
And, weve had family in& out of there since very early 20C.
Gna watch this on my night shift later.
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Another superb video mate, I used to get Hulme and Cheadle Hulme mixed up, couldn't be more different eh!!! 🤣🤣 Wasn't the famous photograph of Joy Division taken on a snow covered bridge over Mancunian Way in Hulme?
sounds like "death bridge " not aptly named btw but its the name it got
Yes indeed it was, by photographer Kevin Cummims-
Great video ..I used to visit friends there in the 80s some place were bad other were OK..but I don't know if memory fails me but I am sure there was an art Cinema there..
There was indeed an art cinema, which was also erased in early 90s redevelopment, called The Aaben. Proper old flea pit from Victorian times.
Great video, i visited the crescents as a kid in the early 80s, my cousin briefly lived their, they were truly horrific. Poorly built and ill though. Glad to see Hulme finally getting the housing it so deserves. Albeit i find gentrification slightly disappointing, but thats the way of the world i guess.
Fantastic documentary. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff as always.
Great video as always
Excellent work again. I always find the slum clearance after The Second World War fascinating, no matter what cities they took place in
Yeah me too. There's something fascinating about urban design trying but failing
Nice one
great video!
I remember going to one of the museums in Liverpool and being so shocked that large areas there had a similar experience. Such radical, non stop change just doesn't seem to be something that works for humans.
Lived in Hulme 2005-2014. Still had a chilled out, art and hippie vibe about it at the beginning, with not developed, green areas. Rents were affordable and I loved the close proximity to the city centre.
But then they've built the MMU campus in 2012 (over green space). Rents had shot up, students moved in, with their party lifestyle, and it stopped being a good value for money place to live for professionals and families. It's a student village now.
Fair point. The student influx has had it's own negative impact
Lived nrby in the lat 80s early 90s when i was a Pup... absolute hellscape, the noises from 'Fort Ardwick' at night would scare a Vampire to death..... awful
Great video, I remember the bull rings in hulme, and to be honest I’m glad they’re gone.
Hulme sweet Hulme , one of the best communities ive ever lived in , true neighbours who looked out for each other , to those looking in a concrete ghetto , but for its residents a place of friendship and warmth ,,,,its the people that make a place , and we made Hulme brilliant
now its a place where that community spirit struggles to exist , we even have folk sleeping rough there , this was never allowed when the crescents was up as we would open an empty flat and give that person a home , now its for those that are willing and able to pay for living a mile from the city centre ,,, it is no longer Hulme sweet Hulme ,
Interesting stuff, although im not sure that Hulme is considered a desirable place to live. I know it well; it's a dense, overpopulated low income area, much like everything else on the perimeter of the city centre. Full of buy to let housing and little sense of community.
You forgot to mention it was the valium prescribing capitol of Mcr, and that you had to have your wits about you when walking around those crescents lest a TV or old arm chair hit you on the head. Thats my recollection of 70z and early 80z Hulme.
And there was no continuity. The original native "people of Hulme" were scattered and a process of demographic replacement ensued where different people were bundled together that were never going to commune in a wholesome way.
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Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
I lived in the Redbricks and miss Hulme’s boho mix and strong sense of community; no matter your background everyone spoke to each other. But I got priced-out and had to leave Manchester. F*ck Landlords and Capitalism.
lol mallowdale yuppies , we used to play them every sunday at footie , the crescent peasents v mallowdale yuppies , and the red brickers got battered every sunday lol ,
The Hulme Crescent's are arguably the 'Pruitt Igoe' of the U.K...
Yes, although I don't know much about Pruitt Igoe, the story is remarkably similar!
@@BeeHereNowuk there is a documentary called the Pruitt Igoe myth, that documents the failure of the housing estate... You might find it online... It's well worth watching... The famous American Postmodern architecture critic Charles Jencks said 'that the demolition of Pruitt Igoe, was the 'End of Modern Architecture': His comment is often seen as a watershed moment in the history of modern architecture...
Fun Fact: The Japanese architect Minoru Yamasaki who designed Pruitt Igoe housing development which was demolished soon after after it was built also designed the original World Trade Centre Twin towers!
Make of that what you will..
dynamic and bohemian r' kid.
My grt. grt grandfather raised his family there, working as a packer.
Loved it
But a 4 minute intro felt excessive!
Fair enough. I got a bit indulgent 😂
Great video, I have lived in Hulme for the past 16 years, super convienient for the city centre and a melting pot of all kinds of people. it is areally good place to live.
top video
But where have the working class gone?
You put people with nothing in grey buildings under a grey sky who walk on gray roads enough said .
Am I right? The original Hulme slums were back to backs? I once went into one, and it was a horrible experience. Anyone who wants to know, google “back to back” and you’ll have a shiver down yer spine. Anyways, me point: the 1960s brutalism was shite, but long way better than the hell that people lived in before. Ok, UA-cam comments, I’m ready for yer…
I agree about it being better. I'm not sure how many Hulme terraces were technically back to backs but there were probably quite a few
@ 18:00. Oh please. Don’t talk noble twaddle about criminals and squatters as if they were some sort of Robin Hoods. They intimidated and victimised people.
how so ? i squatted in Hulme for 5 years , and yes i shoplifte in the city centre , but at no point did i ever intimidate or victimise any one ,
i think you speak from a lack of experience please prove me wrong
This shows to perfection how the people of the North were treated by the southerners. It's not much different now, just prettier on the surface.
As a Mancunian who lived in Thamesmead, South London, for 7 years in the 1990s, I can assure you the same mistakes were made in London and elsewhere in the South East.
Oh please. Get the chip of your shoulder. 1: there’s plenty of Chitty schemes like this in the south.
2: These were pretty much instituted by the people YOU voted for aka your local councils.
I know it’s hard to look in the mirror - it’s human nature not to want to take the blame for doing something yourself.
Have a listen from 3m 30 on and what is said; "A cautionary tale for all that followed, not just here but across Europe"
Amazing achievement by those southerners to manage this across Europe too - and all because they wanted to treat the people of the North badly and not because they shared the same myopic kind of vision that you do.
No different to southern council estates
I live in sussex and theres tons of poverty here some of my exes are from north and there is wealth there ,politcians and business get away with what they want whenever for cash.
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Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today
Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
It was a den of violence and crime.
Not changed much either
You must work for an estate agent with the choice of words in how you describe the place.
I grew up in an area next door to it in the 70's that was demolished so as to move the community that was excellent,but the homes just needed modernization.
But the town planner's & so called architects in there wisdom came up with this abomination.
Glad I got out of the urban jungle 👍
my kids are at least the 6th generation of my family to live in Hulme
I was baptised at St. George's 1958
Pretty dead now, no pubs, loads of students who move on after 3 years.
Brutalist architecture, especially flats and dwellings never work. Depressing, too many rat runs, encouraging crime. Soul less places.
You question the mentality and short sightedness of the council ‘architects’. Bloody thick.
Yes, architects were by brainwashed by university lecturers in the 1960s who worshipped Charles-Edouard Jeanneret who pretentiously called himself Le Corbusier.
This bloke did more to ruin towns and cities than did the German Luftwaffe.
Corbusier's twee gimmicky concrete craphouses ("machines for living") were just an excuse to justify imposing those system-built jail-blocks on the little people. Corruption was at the heart of it all and the perpetrators got off without having to reimburse a penny of the hundreds of millions of debt left behind when their short-lived 'Projects' had to be torn down and replaced.
@@jamesgibson7954 fun-fact from Germany: we have the same opinion regarding our city-councils and architects here at my place, the "Ruhr", the RAF wasn't that bad for our cities as the planners of the late sixties and seventies. Cold concrete in the flat field. Created many of the present problems.
Hulme looks rather Humiliating in the 1970s, but then with a 3 day working week and coal strikes, life was fairly bleak everywhere. Sadly, the Gov.t seem to want the streets to return to this state, or at least, seem to do nothing to stop the ASBO mob. Around my way, the shop owners are so fed up with idiots smashing the shop windows, they just leave them smashed. Life was at lease more hopeful back then, sadly.
Architects make homes. It's the people who make them slums.
Architects make buildings. It's people who make them homes.
@@andrewwoodgate3769you’re both right. The people living in an area make or break it.
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If the buildings are f'd up, the concept as well, there's just no way to build a community
hulmites are rightly proud of the community spirit they had in the time of the terraces then the crescents ,,,, hulme now is a soulless place its community scattered to the 4 corners of the globe , ,,dont be so down on us we made Hulme good we are the people who made a great community ,
Most definitely
Used to give me the creeps seeing that please
22:30 top down policies never work, that's why communism has and/or will fail(ed) 100% of the time 100% of the times it's been tried and so of course the "new" urban design of Hulme failed as have similar projects in the west, not just in the UK, From Glasgow to Chicago (Illinois) to many places in the Paris metropolitan region.
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Sorry but i was born an bred there till i was about 12. Now its nice i havnt a chace to get a flat there.. ye they took me an ma mqm an 2 siblings. It destroyed my mum an my gran who lived there. My nan got me an we moved into abnother new housing project, called West gorton, where they eventually started to film Shameless. A year later after them spending 7 thound pound, then because the MANCHESTER COUNCIL, WERE EMBARESSED WHEN THE AMERICANS PUCKED UP THE SCRIPT AN WENT WITH IT.. THEY SPENT YEARS ON w/gorton, BUT 7 MILLION POUND WAS SCRAPPED AN RIPOEDapart an area that was a community.. the same ere in Birkenhead.
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@@ca9968you’re not lame at all, don’t beat yourself up.