This is Italy's JFK Mystery.

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  • Who killed Aldo Moro, and why?
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    00:00 INTRO
    01:20 I: WHY ALDO MORO?
    09:05 II: FIFTY-FIVE DAYS
    16:10 III: A HORRIBLE PLOT
    26:10 IV: THE FINAL WORD
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    SOURCES
    [1] Bocca, referenced in Indro Montanelli and Mario Cervi, L’Italia Degli Anni Di Piombo - 1965-1978, 2013.
    & Morucci, quoted in Indro Montanelli and Mario Cervi, L’Italia Degli Anni Di Piombo - 1965-1978, 2013.
    [2] “MORO SLAIN, BODY FOUND in ROME,” The New York Times, May 10, 1978, sec. Archives, www.nytimes.com/1978/05/10/ar....
    [3] “Red Brigade Press Releases,” Archive.org, 2021, web.archive.org/web/201203081..., “Press Release 1”.
    [4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_It...
    [5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocom...
    [6] Indro Montanelli and Mario Cervi, L’Italia Degli Anni Di Piombo - 1965-1978, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI. Page numbers unavailable, so this book will be cited by chapter.
    [7] Paul Hofmann, “Italy Arrests 26 as Drive to Find Moro Is Pressed” (New York Times, May 8, 1978), www.nytimes.com/1978/05/08/ar....
    [8] Montanelli and Cervi, Anni Di Piombo, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [9] “Moro Makes Appeal in a Letter, Fearing He May Tell Secrets” (New York Times, March 30, 1978), www.nytimes.com/1978/03/30/ar....
    [10] Montanelli and Cervi, Anni Di Piombo, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [11] Henry Tanner, “Moro’s Kidnappers Reject Any ‘Secret Negotiations’ for His Release” (New York Times, April 11, 1978), www.nytimes.com/1978/04/11/ar....
    [12] Montanelli and Cervi, Anni Di Piombo, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [13] Ibid., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [14] Ibid., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [15] “Aldo Moro’s Farewell Letter before Execution,” The Guardian, May 8, 1978, sec. From the Guardian, www.theguardian.com/theguardi....
    [16] Indro Montanelli and Mario Cervi, L’Italia Degli Anni Di Piombo - 1965-1978, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI.
    [17] “" Erano Le 6. 30, Cosi’ Uccidemmo Moro ",” web.archive.org, November 21, 2015, web.archive.org/web/201511210....
    [18] Paul Hofmann, “Moro Is Buried as Family Bars Leaders” (New York Times, May 11, 1978), www.nytimes.com/1978/05/11/ar....
    [19] Richard Drake, The Aldo Moro Murder Case, (Harvard University Press: Cambridge Massachusetts, 1995), 60.
    [20] Ibid., 101-102.
    [21] Ibid., 99.
    [22] Ibid., 104.
    [23] “Riflettere sul passato per comprendere il presente,” in Polizia Democratica, May 2002.
    [24] Henry Tanner, “Moro’s Kidnappers Reject Any ‘Secret Negotiations’ for His Release” (New York Times, April 11, 1978), www.nytimes.com/1978/04/11/ar....
    [25] Drake, Aldo Moro Case, 75.
    [26] Montanelli, ch. XII: NON-TRUST.
    [27] “SCANDALS: The Lockheed Mystery,” in Time Magazine, 13 September 1976.
    [28] Drake, Aldo Moro Scandal, 90
    [29] Ibid., 90.
    [30] Ibid., 90.
    [31] Ibid., 30.
    [32] Ibid., 90.
    [33] Ibid., 174.
    [34] Alessandra Stanley, “Rome Journal; Agony Lingers, 20 Years After the Moro Killing,” in The New York Times, 9 May, 1998.
    [35] Anna Cento Bull, Italian Neofascism: The Strategy of Tension and the Politics of Nonreconciliation (Berghan Books, 2007), 7; Philip Willian, “Moro's ghost haunts political life,” in The Guardian, 9 May 2003.
    [36] Central Intelligence Agency, The Red Brigades: A Primer, 13-14.
    [37] Montanelli and Cervi, Anni Di Piombo - 1965-1978, 2013., ch. XIII: VIA FANI
    [38] Drake, Aldo Moro Case, 117.
    [39] Ibid., 117.
    [40] Ibid., 84.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 608

  • @spectacles-dm
    @spectacles-dm  4 місяці тому +45

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    • @lasdiLP
      @lasdiLP 4 місяці тому

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    • @infogames2724
      @infogames2724 4 місяці тому

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    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 4 місяці тому

      “How could he get any work done away from his office?”
      and “btw, I’m cold” are 2 of the greatest segueways ever

    • @Samm815
      @Samm815 2 місяці тому

      What a weird thing to have occurred on my birthday.

  • @tfox2925
    @tfox2925 4 місяці тому +2445

    Anytime some horrible thing goes down during the Cold War I’m always expecting Henry Kissinger and I’m never let down

    • @ryanharriman402
      @ryanharriman402 4 місяці тому +240

      I audibly said "of fucking course" when his name was said

    • @JOKERATM
      @JOKERATM 4 місяці тому +1

      Rest in piss

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому +59

      Similar to how everything that happened during the Concert of Europe was tied to Napoleon, Kissinger was just as influential when it comes to the Cold War (+ even America's post-9/11 foreign policy).

    • @lisetteeliseparis7070
      @lisetteeliseparis7070 4 місяці тому +4

      Exactly.

    • @ITILII
      @ITILII 4 місяці тому

      Good all Hank is now organizing meetings in Hell, along with various Bushes, Rockefellers and of course well attended by "royals"

  • @mattwilliams3456
    @mattwilliams3456 4 місяці тому +1411

    Storing your guns in the trunk is really the mark of a top notch security detail.

    • @nikiTricoteuse
      @nikiTricoteuse 4 місяці тому +42

      Pretty sure our Police here in Aotearoa New Zealand still do. Lol. I think it's only the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) who can carry arms on their person. Yep. Had to check. It says, in a locked cabinet but, odds on, that cabinet is in the boot (trunk, if you're American). Lol. Makes me proud. 😊
      Can New Zealand police carry guns?
      Arms Act 1983, s 3(2)(ii)
      Yes, they can and they do, in their vehicles.
      New Zealand police officers are legally entitled to carry firearms, because the restrictions in the Arms Act that apply to the general public don’t apply to the police (in the same way that they don’t apply to the New Zealand military).
      Despite the popular perception that New Zealand has an unarmed police force, police policy and practice is for all police vehicles to carry firearms in locked cabinets. So while New Zealand police officers don’t carry firearms on their hip, they do all have firearms readily available to them, that they can usually access within seconds.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому +41

      They thought they would have enough time to pop the trunk in an emergency???🤣

    • @murdelabop
      @murdelabop 4 місяці тому +6

      Yeah. Total amateur move.

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 4 місяці тому +13

      yep! that’s what Dale Brown, founder of Detroit Threat Management Center and Detroit Urban Survival told me
      “Your gonna wanna keep your guns as far away as possible so you don’t accidentally shoot the wrong guy”, Dale said.

    • @mattwilliams3456
      @mattwilliams3456 4 місяці тому +22

      @@CantTellYou Doesn’t he also recommend taking a few deep breaths from the tailpipe while you’re back at the trunk, to really clear your mind?

  • @TigerWave01
    @TigerWave01 4 місяці тому +1557

    Next video idea: This is America’s JFK Mystery

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому +19

      Yes! It's time for the actual JFK Mystery.

    • @beaudanner8216
      @beaudanner8216 4 місяці тому

      @@kingace6186 not really a mystery. The CIA definitely did it. They were pretty pissed that they were about to be disbanded and there is the whole bay of pig situation. just do a little bit of research you find out pretty quick

    • @Phonixrmf
      @Phonixrmf 4 місяці тому +32

      Oooh, I wonder who's the victim
      I hope he goes for every countries but the US first. It would be hilarious

    • @E11I0T_
      @E11I0T_ 3 місяці тому +1

      so close!❤️

    • @Flow86767
      @Flow86767 3 місяці тому +15

      This is America’s Aldo Moro’s mystery

  • @BroznikTSOC
    @BroznikTSOC 4 місяці тому +1504

    Sending your resignation as your final message to the men that damned you is fucking legendary ngl.

    • @Gas_Station_Tampons
      @Gas_Station_Tampons 4 місяці тому +3

      sounds cowardly and admitting to loss TBH

    • @yxseen.szn_
      @yxseen.szn_ 4 місяці тому

      @@Gas_Station_Tamponsyou've been going around to all comments similar to this one saying the same shit. Are you mentally right in the head?

    • @Racks47
      @Racks47 4 місяці тому

      @@Gas_Station_Tampons when a politician dies, they usually become the martyr of the party and is used as propaganda to gather more popular votes. His resignation denied that from them

    • @ericsilver9401
      @ericsilver9401 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Gas_Station_Tamponsyou will be forgotten 23 years after you die

    • @phineascampbell3103
      @phineascampbell3103 4 місяці тому +69

      Gas_Station_Tampons
      Surely sometimes one must accept having to give up a cause as lost, and to do so is a form of bravery in itself?

  • @alexanderjacobsen7382
    @alexanderjacobsen7382 4 місяці тому +912

    The greatest thing about this story that people forget is the Pope. A good friend of Moro, he spoke in his funeral as if he was upset with God.

    • @alexanderjacobsen7382
      @alexanderjacobsen7382 4 місяці тому +81

      He would die just a few months layer

    • @davidnotonstinnett
      @davidnotonstinnett 4 місяці тому +77

      Nothing in Christian theology says you can’t feel that way. It isn’t inherently sinful to be unable to see the point of a tragedy and be angry and sad about it.
      I see why it seems contradictory, and it’s a little funny to imagine like…a cartoon pope being angry with God, but as long as you don’t think “I know better and this shouldn’t have happened”, imo you are fine theologically.

    • @alexanderjacobsen7382
      @alexanderjacobsen7382 4 місяці тому +35

      @@davidnotonstinnetthi David I agree with you, it was however something that left an extremely profound impression on those present, as written in Eddie Fenech Adami’s autobiography

    • @gbonkers666
      @gbonkers666 4 місяці тому +1

      Well, that's enough proof for me....

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому

      😢

  • @p00bix
    @p00bix 4 місяці тому +442

    The Years of Lead really ought to be better known outside of Italy.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому +19

      Unfortunately, this is my first time learning about it. Big s/o to this video.

    • @alessandrobotti8981
      @alessandrobotti8981 3 місяці тому

      @@kingace6186Italy has insane lore if you want to look into it.

    • @aaaz45
      @aaaz45 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@kingace6186Search Piazza Fontana bombing and Bologna massacre

    • @HearthArrowandKey
      @HearthArrowandKey 2 місяці тому +8

      @@kingace6186 Or go down the absurd rabbit hole that is the Ustica Itavia Flight 870.

    • @ThisNameWasTaken0
      @ThisNameWasTaken0 2 місяці тому

      @@aaaz45how do you say years of lead in Italian?

  • @stefanocuccoli178
    @stefanocuccoli178 4 місяці тому +479

    With Moro died the hope for a more righteous Italy and Europe. The "historic compromise" would have put the continent on the path of a stronger social approach to economics and politics.
    For those who may want a last laugh, the DC was brought down in 1992 by the biggest corruption scandal in the history of Italy and Giulio Andreotti (the then PM that condemned Moro in order to get his place as the sole playmaker) is widely considered one of the most shady politicians of the century.
    Oh and bonus nugget: you know who was a member of P2, years before becoming PM? Exactly: Silvio Berlusconi

    • @noth606
      @noth606 4 місяці тому +1

      Well, I've lived in Italy long enough to know that it you want to get rid of corruption in politics there, you'll have to evacuate all of Rome and get rid of the pidgeons and street paving stones too. It's never going to work, that, as far as I understand it, was why no one wanted Moro to live, not the right, the left or the Church. It's sad, for sure, but idealism has little place in politics, least of all in Italy. Even Cicciolina wasn't dirty enough for it ;-), that says something.

    • @captainfreedom3649
      @captainfreedom3649 Місяць тому +1

      If the Cold War hadn't stopped by 1992, he would've been in power even beyond that...

    • @gertjanvandamme2068
      @gertjanvandamme2068 Місяць тому +1

      kinda dissapointed that andreotti wasn't mentioned more often in this video

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza 4 місяці тому +377

    Knowing you’ve been damned by friends and men you thought you trusted and sending a last letter sending a resignation goes hard AF, just rage inducing knowing they completely stood aside letting this happen. I’m wondering just how many were involved.

    • @Gas_Station_Tampons
      @Gas_Station_Tampons 4 місяці тому +5

      Hard AF?
      Id laugh my ass off if I was in their position.

    • @danielmaia6135
      @danielmaia6135 4 місяці тому +8

      I guess this is a symptom of today's society.... But the only people I feel that deserve blame or anger in this situation are the people that kidnapped them.

    • @yanz766
      @yanz766 2 місяці тому +1

      You’d save one person in exchange for letting multiple bad people out??

    • @devansh3700
      @devansh3700 Місяць тому

      ​@@yanz766for one great statesman that can change the political future of the country? Hell yeah

    • @David-ud9ju
      @David-ud9ju Місяць тому

      Not entirely sure why you or this channel are blaming the politicians. You know the Red Brigade kidnapped and shot him right?

  • @PenskePC17
    @PenskePC17 4 місяці тому +243

    A presidential detail keeping the guns in the trunk is the most European thing ive ever heard.

    • @evangelinehoke5512
      @evangelinehoke5512 4 місяці тому +1

      Jail😂😭

    • @christiandaugherty6339
      @christiandaugherty6339 3 місяці тому +19

      Moro wasn't president of Italy.

    • @iaincowell9747
      @iaincowell9747 2 місяці тому

      They kept long guns in the trunk, they had hand guns. Also he wasn't a president

    • @LathropLdST
      @LathropLdST 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@christiandaugherty6339 as good as. The President is a figurehead, a hand that signs. The Premier is the one that takes true action.

    • @LathropLdST
      @LathropLdST 2 місяці тому

      ​@@evangelinehoke5512get help for that concussion, child.

  • @mistyhaney5565
    @mistyhaney5565 4 місяці тому +97

    In the 1970's all roads led to Kissinger. He never saw a government he didn't want to interfere in, or hold influence over.

    • @crazydinosaur8945
      @crazydinosaur8945 Місяць тому

      if he was in his prime today, the US would prob be a nation he would considerd to need a "hand"

  • @Pantsinabucket
    @Pantsinabucket 4 місяці тому +572

    You’re leaving out a key detail here, while P2 probably didn’t orchestrate it, they KNEW Moro would be kidnapped and purposefully avoided taking action.
    In 1975, Italian police would arrest a drug trafficker with a genuine British passport named Terrence William Abbott. At his arraignment, Abbott revealed that he was actually “Ali Khoury”, a Palestinian terrorist based out of Lebanon. Using this newly invented identity, “Ali Khoury” infiltrated the Red Brigades in prison and befriended Renato Curcio.
    He would go on to inform on the Red Brigades’ plans, primarily to Vito Miceli, a P2 member who was the former head of Italy’s intelligence services, who had been arrested for plotting a coup (this caused the 1977 reorganization of their intelligence services). Miceli by then had “cleared” his name and acquired a seat in Italy’s parliament, maintaining his P2 connections.
    “Ali Khoury” informed Miceli and the police of the Red Brigades’ plans to kill both the judge presiding over Curcio’s trial and Aldo Moro. Yet, the Italian government took no actions to protect them. Instead, Graziano Gori, the cop leading the investigation into “Ali Khoury”, would die in a suspicious hit-and-run car accident.
    So who was “Ali Khoury”? Well, at trial, Judge Giorgio Floridia would order his release on the grounds that he was a member of the American secret services, and exposed his real identity as Ronald Hadley Stark. Stark was a CIA agent infamous for being the world’s largest trafficker of LSD, the inventor of butane hash oil (dabs), and running a trafficking network stretching from California to Lebanon and further on to Afghanistan, being the primary fixer for the Brotherhood of Eternal Love until its collapse in 1973. Through his Brotherhood connections he had successfully infiltrated numerous leftist groups, trafficking rings, and Lebanese/Palestinian militias across the world. Coincidentally, the only newspaper worldwide to report on Stark’s 1985 “death” is La Repubblica, the same newspaper Aldo Moro holds up in his proof-of-life hostage photo.
    So yeah, the CIA and P2 knew this was going to happen, and chose to let it happen. I would agree with the Red Brigades’ own claims that they acted independently, but they also acted without real interference for a reason.

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 4 місяці тому +83

      Bro I would advise you to lay low the CIA is not gonna like this 💀

    • @phlave
      @phlave 4 місяці тому +90

      Great add-on. I would also add that the CIA presence and influence on Italy's politics was part of the Gladio operation.

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket 4 місяці тому +50

      @@phlave indeed it was. Miceli received at least $800,000 in payments for his involvement in Gladio.

    • @ale69420
      @ale69420 4 місяці тому +12

      Bro is about to have an unfortunate accident now 🤦‍♂️

    • @cat_in_a_sock1948
      @cat_in_a_sock1948 4 місяці тому +23

      @@phlave dont forget good old "radio free europe" which still survives as radio free asia. weird propaganda attempts born of wilsons ideals way back when.

  • @biggiouschinnus7489
    @biggiouschinnus7489 4 місяці тому +71

    My local barber was a young man in Italy in the 70s - he remembered Moro's murder very well. Even nearly 50 years later, I could tell it had a big impact on him.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 4 місяці тому +142

    “5 days later his body was found in the trunk of a Renault 4”
    Disgraceful
    They could have used an Italian car.

    • @jimmypadilla3441
      @jimmypadilla3441 4 місяці тому

      Bury me in a Ferrari

    • @GrandPrixDecals
      @GrandPrixDecals 4 місяці тому +23

      Exactly what I was thinking, the ultimate insult

    • @ClamMan1989
      @ClamMan1989 4 місяці тому +18

      Buried beneath a Hawaiian pizza no less

    • @crazydinosaur8945
      @crazydinosaur8945 Місяць тому +4

      @@GrandPrixDecals and "he was found, in a Renault 4 covered in pasta broken at the middle. in a france flag. with the car radio playing the anthem of spain"

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika 4 місяці тому +112

    A political kidnap and murder in Italy with out the involvement of the mafia. Unbelievable!

    • @joshflynn2173
      @joshflynn2173 4 місяці тому +6

      they could of been hired

    • @giacomogianni3924
      @giacomogianni3924 3 місяці тому +8

      @@joshflynn2173most likely the part of the government that was actually trying to find Moro had talks with the Mafia trying to communicate with the “Banda della Magliana”, a criminal gang that few years before managed to gain control of Rome’s criminal markets, to locate Moro by tracking the guns used in the kidnap, but today it’s common knowledge that the Red Brigades didn’t really like to buy guns from criminal gangs, and tended to used old guns they already owned (which partially explains the high rates of guns jamming) and occasionally buy them from Middle Eastern countries

    • @fabioparovina4650
      @fabioparovina4650 3 місяці тому

      It's funny because in a famous italian tv series (probably the best ever in the country, inspired by a really good book Romanzo Criminale) the mafia actually tries to "help" the government by found Moro with the help of the criminal gang of Magliana in Rome. 😂 it's probably not true since the book is a romance of what happened and so just inspired by the real events, but still think that's a funny coincidence😂

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 2 місяці тому

      ​@joshflynn2173 no, less likely, mafia doesn't like commie

    • @elmersbalm5219
      @elmersbalm5219 Місяць тому

      There are credible stories of involvement of P2, Gladio and Nato. After Vietnam, many Europeans thought the US was weak. They found out the hard way that the US wasn't going to lose its most prestigious jewel. Britain did worse after Lucknow.

  • @riccardopampagnin8681
    @riccardopampagnin8681 4 місяці тому +94

    The recent history of my country is so obscure. It is also a shame that we, in Italy, don't have a chance to study it because school curriculum is too damn long

    • @aaaz45
      @aaaz45 2 місяці тому +11

      History according Italian school system: end in 1945

    • @riccardopampagnin8681
      @riccardopampagnin8681 2 місяці тому +2

      @@aaaz45 if you are lucky

    • @aaaz45
      @aaaz45 2 місяці тому +1

      @@riccardopampagnin8681 se sei fortunato in quinto superiore hai finito il programma del Risorgimento, ma proprio se sei Gastone, il cugino di Paperino

    • @AtlaCenter0887
      @AtlaCenter0887 Місяць тому

      Also apparently the kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro is considered Italy's version of 9/11.

    • @TL98
      @TL98 Місяць тому

      it's delibartely repeating things you already know because the government wants an ignorant mass

  • @caschi9929
    @caschi9929 2 місяці тому +38

    The segway from Moro to sponsor was truly horrible

    • @sporovid5856
      @sporovid5856 15 днів тому

      I agree. It was less of a segway and more like a fat guy tumbling down a hill on a tricycle.

  • @frankpower97
    @frankpower97 4 місяці тому +24

    As an italian it's really strange to find the tragedy of moro on international channel, in a certain way it can be seen how the vision change, in italy we still believe in some sort on underlying cospiracy about Moro's case, there are a lot of things you didn't touch on like, Andreotti who was corrupt (like offically known) and motivation to delay any rescue of moro, a strange "seance" in with an unknown sensitive pinpointed the hiding place of the culprits, like the one that was discovered after the fact, in "via Gradoli" there is also the story of Moro's wife who pleaded the police to check that street since it was an hot spot for the comunist extremist, a pleading that was confirmed by others wife's relatives, and the police stated that such a street was non existent many times and the wife made no plead. Strange things that don't add up, it's not a matter of if a cospiracy was really under all of it, it's more like a lot of little conspiracies converged to a single objective, firstly to allow the kidnapping and then to delay any help.

  • @JeanJacqueJaenJeux
    @JeanJacqueJaenJeux 4 місяці тому +51

    Something more to add, it seems also that high members of Democrazia Cristiana, Moro's party, knew where he was and decided not to save him.
    Raffaele Cutolo, one of the biggest Mafia bossess in Italy's history and creator of modern Camorra, the Neapolitan mafia, who had partial control over Rome too later said that some of his men working with the Banda della Magliana (a famous gang from Rome) had come to know where Moro was situated and said so to some region's high ranking members of Democrazia Cristiana that apparently gave him the cold shoulder about the news as if they had no interest in saving him.
    This was declared by him while in 41 bis (a special italian prison for Mafia and a few other things which is also attacked by many courts for being to harsh) we cannot know the truthfulness of his affirmations.

  • @RealJuiceWrld
    @RealJuiceWrld 4 місяці тому +180

    The real mystery is why this channel doesn’t have 1 mil subs

    • @spectacles-dm
      @spectacles-dm  4 місяці тому +30

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @julianjazz7296
      @julianjazz7296 4 місяці тому +14

      It will in not too distant future. The quality of the channel demands it.

    • @jettjones9889
      @jettjones9889 4 місяці тому +6

      I blame P2

    • @akmalomar465
      @akmalomar465 4 місяці тому

      ​@@spectacles-dmDont worry man you will reach the goal,it just take time for your channel reach 1 Million subs.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 4 місяці тому

      @@jettjones9889 The deep state doesn't want this channel to shine. This channel is exposing too many mysteries. lol

  • @Bck648
    @Bck648 4 місяці тому +21

    for everyone who enjoyed this story, I highly recommend you the mini-series "Esterno Notte" from Marco Bellocchio, it gives you a very human point of view from all the people who where involved in the kidnapping.

  • @lancerhades971
    @lancerhades971 4 місяці тому +14

    its a great day when spectacles posts. almost as exciting as a lemino post. keep. it. up.

  • @frafrafrafrafra
    @frafrafrafrafra 4 місяці тому +24

    I suggest everyone to watch the series "Esterno Notte" (exterior night) about the subject, it's one of the best series to come out of Italy in the last years

  • @williambrasky3891
    @williambrasky3891 4 місяці тому +33

    Democracy? Democracy? Did you not spend 5 minutes looking up postwar Italian politics? That closing monologue….

    • @alessandrorona6205
      @alessandrorona6205 4 місяці тому +2

      What he should have seen? I'm curious.

    • @toyanaydin8248
      @toyanaydin8248 4 місяці тому +9

      surprised not more people are pointing this out. The closing monologue seemed out of place.

    • @iaincowell9747
      @iaincowell9747 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@toyanaydin8248 he also gives the wrong impression that the bodyguard detail weren't armed. They were, long guns were kept in the trunk, they had sidearms

    • @dopaminedreams1122
      @dopaminedreams1122 Місяць тому +2

      @@toyanaydin8248 Italy is a democracy to this day, even if strongly flawed, it’s freedom index for example is strong

  • @hugopassmore7563
    @hugopassmore7563 4 місяці тому +12

    only discovered this channel recently and just assumed it had at least a million subs, the videos are far too well made for 90k

  • @axellarsson5785
    @axellarsson5785 4 місяці тому +18

    Love your stuff and have been watching for a long time. A real hidden gem on youtube

  • @AlfieVsLion
    @AlfieVsLion 4 місяці тому +14

    Amazing guys.. looking forward to still being here when you hit the 1 million subs you deserve 👍🇮🇪

  • @theconqueringram5295
    @theconqueringram5295 4 місяці тому +41

    I've heard of Aldo Moro and his death at the hands of the Red Brigades before, but I haven't studied it. It just seemed like very deep rabbit hole. That said, with all this explained, I have no doubt that Moro's assassination is shady. We might never understand the full story.

    • @ivannio8519
      @ivannio8519 4 місяці тому

      Maybe CIA - check this : col. fletcher prouty interview 1994

    • @alberum8442
      @alberum8442 4 місяці тому +5

      I think the shady part is why he wasn't found in those 55 days of kidnapping. It seems very clear that the kidnap and murder itself was at the hand of the Brigate Rosse.

    • @XMarkxyz
      @XMarkxyz 4 місяці тому

      History will tell, some of the kidnappers are still alive and also other people liked to the fact, probably if the have something to say it will be on their final days, and maybe with years passing new documents will jump out

    • @mircozanghierato8859
      @mircozanghierato8859 2 місяці тому +4

      Moro’s assassination is THE Italian rabbit hole: you can wrap up the political history of the country from 1943 to 1992 (and beyond to a certain extent) if you look closely enough

  • @larryalvares1369
    @larryalvares1369 4 місяці тому +36

    You should do more of these videos because these are very interesting

  • @BunkrMan
    @BunkrMan 2 місяці тому +2

    Must do: This is Serbia's JFK Mystery.
    The assassination of the Prime Minister of Serbia on March 12, 2003 at 12:25, in the courtyard of the Government of the Republic of Serbia building in Belgrade, has many associations with the JFK assassination, and the whole story is very interesting, both because of Zoran Đinđić himself, and because of various foreign secret services which operated and waged their wars on the territory of Serbia, sending messages to each other in their great geostrategic game.
    The break-up of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Serbia without the permission of the UN Security Council is a precedent that opened Pandora's box, which later developed into what we have today in the world, and the murder of Djindjic depicts the fate of leaders who decide to say no to dictates and decide to break relations with services that helped him to come to power and start leading the sovereign policy of his country.

  • @cerdjee4918
    @cerdjee4918 4 місяці тому +24

    I've never watched any of your videos so far, I haven't even watched this one. I just happened to find your channel, but once I played the first few seconds of the video and then noticed that you put all the sources in the description, I instantly subscribed.
    Prepare yourself to have me binge all your videos.

  • @peterkelly4873
    @peterkelly4873 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm so glad to see a new video, thanks guys!

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish 4 місяці тому +2

    Love the content and the animations. Keep it up 👍🏻

  • @227petals
    @227petals 4 місяці тому +1

    my new favorite channel. love how u tied the ending there. amazing production!!

  • @laural3738
    @laural3738 3 місяці тому +2

    When the body of Aldo Moro was found in Via Caietani inside that red Renault 4 was that kind of moment that shocked so much the entire nation that everybody would have remembered for rest of their life what they were doing in that moment.
    I was a five years old baby playing outside in the frontyard of my house in a quiet town in the western Alps, even if there was absolutely no danger for me in that moment, when my mother heard the news in the special TV news she was so scared that shouted at me telling me to go immediately inside the house.
    I had no idea of what was happening but it was clear to me that something terrible was happening since all the adults were so scared and worried about what would have come next.
    I came here out of curiosity about how these events would have been told and analyzed outside of Italy. I subscribed for the quality of the contents and the intersting topics.
    Great job 👍

  • @goneham4015
    @goneham4015 4 місяці тому +4

    Another amazing video, as always

  • @danielmiskin8468
    @danielmiskin8468 3 місяці тому +4

    That Segway was wild 😭

  • @ConnorNolan
    @ConnorNolan 4 місяці тому

    I can’t believe your videos don’t have more views! I love catching a channel like this early. In a year or so you’re going to have views in the millions for sure

  • @dannyd5727
    @dannyd5727 4 місяці тому

    I am amazed by the high production quality, the balanced look at all angle, the captivating narrating of the story line - it's hard to believe that THIS is on youtube and not on Discovery Channel!
    And it is even harder to believe that the channel has only 99.600 Followers as of now - you deserve to have a much broader audience!
    Hope you guys will reach the 100k today, and i can't wait to bine watch your videos now (starting with the Olof Palme one you advertised :)....

  • @apinakapina
    @apinakapina 4 місяці тому

    What an excellent essay. I've heard about this story long time ago, but this was a delightfully well-presented and clear narrative to watch. So take a subscription! :)

  • @charlesbrain6220
    @charlesbrain6220 4 місяці тому +5

    Wow, that was like watching an HBO special. That was epic

  • @devonhapeman1171
    @devonhapeman1171 4 місяці тому

    The quality of your video is so amazing looking forward to the next video like this

  • @Albanez39
    @Albanez39 4 місяці тому +6

    Italian film Il Divo about PM Giulio Andreotti can perhaps share some light on the dealing that went backstage in Italy at the time. How the Mafia, P2, Christian Democracy were all in bed together and all influenced the political landscape of cold War Italy

  • @ClamMan1989
    @ClamMan1989 4 місяці тому +3

    If only he had AnyDesk, he'd still be alive today.

  • @Michael_A_
    @Michael_A_ 3 місяці тому +2

    As an Italian, I just had to see the thumbnail. That Red Renault 4 is hunting all of us

  • @jmacku35
    @jmacku35 4 місяці тому +42

    This is great. I’d love to see a “this is asias” version though. The larger continent really helped the clickablity. I’d really love to see a “this is amerias” version as well in April, which would both be a subtle joke and an interesting documentary. This idea definitely has potential.

    • @senabecool7232
      @senabecool7232 4 місяці тому +2

      For Asia, I would love to see a video about the assassination of Indira and Rajiv Ghandi

    • @arribalaschivas91
      @arribalaschivas91 4 місяці тому +7

      A twist on the “this is America’s JFK” would be to highlight a similar assassination mystery from a different country in North or South America, such as the Colosio case

    • @rzpogi
      @rzpogi 4 місяці тому +2

      For the Philippines, Ninoy Aquino Jr assassination in August 21, 1983 at Manila International Airport (now named after him).

    • @user6122
      @user6122 4 місяці тому +1

      @@senabecool7232 well, i don't think Indira's death really was that mysterious, like there was a very known course of events that happened during the emergency

    • @senabecool7232
      @senabecool7232 4 місяці тому

      @@user6122 well, what about the Munir Murder

  • @7firefly763
    @7firefly763 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video, and that sponsorship transition was hilariously smooth

  • @marvnch
    @marvnch 4 місяці тому

    great video as always!

  • @JohnnyMarksVideos
    @JohnnyMarksVideos 4 місяці тому +19

    Tremendous work, as always! Your pacing & production quality are truly insane.
    And as someone who is woefully ignorant of a lot of European history, your channel is slowly turning me into a functional human being

    • @spectacles-dm
      @spectacles-dm  4 місяці тому +6

      Thanks Johnny! Looking forward to your next one!

    • @JohnnyMarksVideos
      @JohnnyMarksVideos 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@spectacles-dm Thanks! It's chugging along

  • @jhondoe1483
    @jhondoe1483 4 місяці тому +21

    These animated “true crime” videos are stunning bro, you genuinely should make more of these. It’s almost like lemeno with better animation IMO and without the HORRENDOUS upload schedule.
    Keep it up bro you’ve got a great UA-cam career with this quality of upload.

  • @phhdvm
    @phhdvm 4 місяці тому +2

    I remember this from my high school days. I understand it much better now. Well done!

  • @abas656thegodemperor9
    @abas656thegodemperor9 3 місяці тому +1

    Now that's a good title and thumbnail,it actually got me interested, other youtubers should learn

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter 2 місяці тому

    Excellent throughout, but especially that closing monologue, just perfect

  • @Platinum_101
    @Platinum_101 4 місяці тому +5

    So we have the Italy and Sweden JFK mystery

  • @mjrFPV
    @mjrFPV 4 місяці тому +1

    Great story telling skills you have sir. Good job

  • @MADDOXXXbr
    @MADDOXXXbr 4 місяці тому +8

    70´s was no joking

  • @FeewRift
    @FeewRift 2 місяці тому

    love these Unity thumbnails: you immediately know this is a well researched and visualized documentary

  • @touficbatache
    @touficbatache 2 місяці тому +1

    Amazing video! Next: Lebanon's JFK Mystery? (Rafic Hariri)

  • @udp1073
    @udp1073 3 місяці тому +1

    I still remember that day… i was at kindergarten, my dad came to pick me up… we arrived at home 5 min later, both my grandpa (both served in WWII) already standing guard… my uncle arrived 25 minutes later… it was quite scary…

  • @yosh7473
    @yosh7473 3 місяці тому

    i lovs this type of videos man, first video i have found hoping for more 🙌

  • @MarshaIIs
    @MarshaIIs 4 місяці тому +4

    The music, the atmosphere... Its so fucking good

  • @jimmyisawkward
    @jimmyisawkward 4 місяці тому +7

    I’m in the middle of listening to the behind the bastards podcast about Kissinger and when 19:19 hit I said OMG out loud

  • @twrampage
    @twrampage 4 місяці тому +3

    "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." - George Carlin

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami 4 місяці тому +6

    ahh yes my favorite past time game ending political leader,
    everybody should try it, it's fun

  • @vincenzomazzella9080
    @vincenzomazzella9080 Місяць тому +1

    2 interesting things to say:
    1 it was really stupid for the red brigades to assassinate Moro. In the end it essentially achieved nothing. They could have done much more of an impact if they released Moro just after his letter when he denounced and resigned from the CD.
    2 an interesting fact about the kidnapping and assassination of Moro is that various high ranking criminals from Rome’s criminal underground (the Magliana Gang) and from the Neapolitan Camorra (led by Raffaele Cutolo) testified in later unrelated cases that they were approached during the first days of the kidnapping by Italian Secret Service agents who asked them to find Moro. They also testified that they eventually found Moro but that the Secret Service “didn’t need the information anymore”. Those are of course words from criminals so take them with a pinch of salt. If they were telling the truth though then possibly the Secret Service and the government knew for a while where Moro was being kept but decided to do nothing.

  • @jmacku35
    @jmacku35 4 місяці тому

    I think the start of Europe/Sweden video is what really made it so great, the time,place, and a cliffhanger on an _only_ somewhat relevant detail. I’m glad you copied that.

  • @thesausagecontinuim1971
    @thesausagecontinuim1971 4 місяці тому +10

    P2's "stability" = maintaining the italian elite's hold on power

  • @sanctusignis3125
    @sanctusignis3125 4 місяці тому +4

    extremely well documented and engaging video! Please make more of those videos, because youtube needs those kind of Documentaries

  • @GithinjiMuruki
    @GithinjiMuruki 2 місяці тому

    Amazing work!

  • @SulfurAstarothVixenIIIXXIII
    @SulfurAstarothVixenIIIXXIII 23 дні тому +1

    HOW THE HELL DO YOU HAVE ONLY 145K SUBS?!?!?!?!?!?

  • @mikehanrahan5559
    @mikehanrahan5559 2 місяці тому +1

    "...I kiss you for the last time." Good God, I'm fighting tears.

  • @evangelinehoke5512
    @evangelinehoke5512 4 місяці тому

    Title got me in instantly, stayed for a great video❤❤❤

  • @sandrafaith
    @sandrafaith 4 місяці тому +2

    So good. SO GOOD. Stuff happened in my lifetime and I've never heard of any of this.

  • @gabbo3272
    @gabbo3272 2 місяці тому +1

    As an Italian, thank you for covering this dark piece of our history, if you want, check out also the history of Mr. Falcone and Mr. Borsellino, two very important figures of the antimafia commision that got brutally killed in an explosion in the highway, alone with their security guarda. RIP these men

  • @richiehoyt8487
    @richiehoyt8487 4 місяці тому +1

    Poor Mori - the indignity of being found in the boot (trunk) of a Renault 4! No one familiar with the vehicle would want to be seen, even dead, in one..!

  • @stephenkelly207
    @stephenkelly207 4 місяці тому +2

    Boy was I glad to see this pop up

    • @spectacles-dm
      @spectacles-dm  4 місяці тому +2

      Boy were we glad to see this pop up

  • @grumbling
    @grumbling 2 місяці тому

    This channel is going to be huge one day

  • @moritzamstutz7462
    @moritzamstutz7462 4 місяці тому

    Great video

  • @alexandrosgoulas
    @alexandrosgoulas 4 місяці тому +7

    Please, please, please, go and read Moro's farewell letter to his family, the last one he wrote in captivity, when he knew that he was about to be killed soon. You will soon forget all the political background and get a poignant glimpse of the tragedy he was going through, and will be surprised of how he still managed to find the most touching words of love for those he had to leave behind

  • @silverXnoise
    @silverXnoise 4 місяці тому +29

    “JFK Mystery” like they know precisely who committed the act, how it was carried out, why they did it, and they arrested the culprit within a few hours of it happening? That kind of JFK mystery?

    • @sethjohnson5704
      @sethjohnson5704 4 місяці тому +12

      Except they didn’t bc the CIA killed him, the rifle the supposed shooter used doesn’t match the markings on the bullet that killed JFK, you might want to look a little closer at it, I’d recommend Wendigoon, he has a great vid on it!

    • @adreto2978
      @adreto2978 4 місяці тому +5

      @@sethjohnson5704if you read any history or any comments from historians the vast vast majority of academics agree that it was not a conspiracy.

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 4 місяці тому

      Yes? Both events are really similar. Unless you're being sarcastic and I missed it.

    • @Souledex
      @Souledex Місяць тому +1

      @@sethjohnson5704 an extremely understood echo doesn't represent a second shooter - the end

  • @jaywood632
    @jaywood632 4 місяці тому +2

    how is this channel so small

  • @lukehatler8546
    @lukehatler8546 4 місяці тому

    It’s important to note that Moro was center left, the CD was split about half and half between the center right and the center left

  • @nls7383
    @nls7383 4 місяці тому

    Wow! What a great video!

  • @elijahguttman9289
    @elijahguttman9289 4 місяці тому +7

    I resent calling the JFK assassination a mystery

  • @Emperor_of_bhutan
    @Emperor_of_bhutan 4 місяці тому +3

    Hello i am from belgium and we had also a incomplete case it’s called “ les tueurs du Brabant “ or in Flemish “ de bende van nivel “ it’s super complex I hope you could do a video about it 😅

  • @Jskizzle
    @Jskizzle 4 місяці тому +1

    I love this. Great Story telling sir.

  • @TheSmartestManonEarth
    @TheSmartestManonEarth 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow just noticed your subscriber count. I thought would be like 2 million

  • @sberiya2
    @sberiya2 4 місяці тому +8

    I have never seen something more misleading than this video. Claiming that the access of the PCI to the Italian government or that Eurocommunism sought to represent itself as "more moderate" is believing that the Communist "forces" (parties, movements, groups, etc) back then were a cohesive unit. It is far more correct to understand how different factions inside the Communist movement coexisted (there was a spectrum from the more radical factions to the moderate ones) and the context of every case. Saying that the movement of the PCI to the centre was just to moderate its image is simplistic at best.

  • @meganamehere
    @meganamehere 3 місяці тому

    Your voice is challenging to listen to. The up and down and up and down is exhausting. It's hard to binge

  • @Nalololol
    @Nalololol 4 місяці тому +1

    Great sponsor transition lol

  • @kellerbailey4353
    @kellerbailey4353 4 місяці тому +4

    What’s the USA’s JFK mystery?

  • @93Coupes
    @93Coupes Місяць тому

    Thank you. After scrolling for 20 min I found a video that looks good will write back if it is

  • @nikiTricoteuse
    @nikiTricoteuse 4 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting and well done. I moved to Bologna not long after the train station there was blown up. Even then, the red brigade was spoken of in hushed terms but, l never knew the stories behind the murder of Aldo Moro. Trying to find out who was involved, would be like trying to find out which drop of the Mediterranean had come from which river.

  • @567secret
    @567secret 4 місяці тому +5

    I see you take some work with your sources, but especially after the HBomber video I would appreciate it if you could make those sources clearer, with links, and inserted where needed in the video.

    • @spectacles-dm
      @spectacles-dm  4 місяці тому +4

      We had an error on those at time of posting, accidentally sharing our internal shorthand rather than full citations. You should now see full and correct notes. Thank you!

    • @dopaminedreams1122
      @dopaminedreams1122 Місяць тому

      Hbomber fans try not to be annoyingly self righteous challenge: impossible. You think your favourite balding egg head doesn’t plagiarise too?

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 3 місяці тому +1

    Next up: MY JFK Mystery.
    Where did my goldfish go all those years ago? Did Spike or Whiskers eat him? Did my parents get tired of buying fish food?

  • @noursaccount
    @noursaccount 4 місяці тому

    Amazing video

  • @SunkWorkX
    @SunkWorkX 4 місяці тому +1

    You should do Ustica and Bologna Massacre but beware it is deadly

  • @gabrielcousineau5020
    @gabrielcousineau5020 4 місяці тому

    This was really good

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza 4 місяці тому +2

    Now wondering what weird mysteries we’ve had in Scotland - unless you find the Ice Cream Wars interesting at all, or who the mystery assassin to the Last Glasgow Godfather was (Arthur Thompson) but those are crime related and not political

  • @bamaha24
    @bamaha24 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m sorry. Jiang ziemens glasses?!?!?