Slow Speed u Turns and training
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Slow speed motorcycle training is extremely important in becoming an advanced motorcycle rider. Many motorcycle training courses start students using the clutch with high rpm's from the throttle which will often times end up with the student burning their clutch, while supposedly feathering the rear brake which most often ends up with students riding the brakes and burning their brake pads and rotors. By removing the fear of dropping your motorcycle with motorcycle drop guards installed, students can concentrate on using total clutch control with proper throttle engagement and not have to worry about using the rear brake to begin making slow speed u turns in less than 18 feet. Motorcycle training always begins in parking lot maneuvering and learning advanced slow speed skills is no different. If you want to not only be the boss of your motorcycle or ride like a pro, or better yet ride like a badass, then learning slow speed motorcycle operation is the key to your success. If you have a Harley Davidson or Indian motorcycle then learn the skills you need to enjoy your motorcycle investment from qualified motorcycle instructors and protect your investment with motorcycle drop guards.
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I love your drop bike tip!! I never seen anyone else teach that!
We need something like this in Australia
I agree! Everyone should train in advance skills!
This was a great video, Jay! Glad to see you getting into training videos.
Thanks
We are having a really hot summer here in New Jersey and I don't mind the heat but my bike sure does. This technique (Total Clutch Control) will help with keeping my Road King from getting too hot while practicing. And that is also giving me peace of mind because I'm one of those guys that listens to, and feels, what my bike is doing. And anything that makes things easier on my bike is great with me.
It's extremely hot in Texas right now. Days are running about 111 on heat index and 102-104 degrees
Great class can’t wait to do it again
Look forward to it bud! Ya'll did awesome. Sorry, I had to cut the video down a bit!
This is basically the second exercise of the MSF BRC. We spend all the time during that exercise teaching the students the friction zone aka TCC. If they pay attention and get it, the rest of the class is a breeze. If they don't, either they eventually get counselled out or they spend 2 days struggling.
Thanks
Your system of learning (TCC) makes the most sense to me. Look forward to more learning moments. It's okay watching videos but the rubber-meets-the-road when actually participating. I sure hope you ( or your representatives) can take these classes on the road.
Thank you for the kind words! I get asked all the time to schedule training in different states and cities, but time is an issue for me at this point. I am working on something for subscribers so just be a little patient and hopefully i can get it going soon. Thanks
@@motorofficertraining Looking forward to it Jay! My bike already has the drop guards which have already proven themselves.
The guys did a great job very good instructions and training thanks for sharing very helpful great video enjoyed watching
Glad you enjoyed it
That is Awesome 👏 what a great set of exercises I like this method! I went to Ride like a pro and they teach a bit different. This method I would really enjoy learning. Thanks for the video Jay 😎
you are welcome! Hope you subscribe and interact. I am planning a whole training series coming up!
fantastic video! i learned a lot from u! before u use the reare brake just use the clutch to do the same manouvers! it gives you so mutch more confidence!
acually i think you dont need the rear brake at all, just the clutch and throthell
Good video Jay thanks for sharing.
You bet!
You have a good course. I am near Tucson, Arizona
Man you put out some great content! Please list all your training info on yt. I’d like to make arrangements etc for some training.
Thanks!
Great video Jay. I'll be watching more coming out
We will do our best!
hey jay, is it possible you can show on the camera how to pick the bike up ? i have a bone on bone left knee problem and had to get help to lift the bike up, I think my technique is no good.. but i don't know @@motorofficertraining
Awesome video brother, keep them up I look forward to it
Thank you sir! We will train whoever comes out. And im trying to get videos out each week.
That was some fancy counterbalancing Jay! I must try try this again.
Lol..it was just for demoing total clutch control only.
@@motorofficertraining I was not paying attention the first time I watched this. You had your weight on the same side as your turn. Amazing! Still fancy riding. 😊
You are the best
Well not sure about that, but thanks!
Problem here in cincy, only one class and its always full!
Great video. I hope I can take one of your classes one day. Need to buy the drop guards first though
Whenever you're ready to do it! Your advanced skills await you! Lol
Jay, it was a great class. Gonna get my son up there for 1.
Forgot to mention how hot it was.
Yes it was hot! Hope to see you in the next level soon
Good video. I like the focus on rejecting the idea of counterbalancing. Up next, abandon the crutch of slipping the clutch at all.
Total clutch control is all that is needed for slow speed maneuvers on these bikes. But utilizing the same proper clutch engagement with proper throttle engagement will work on any motorcycle and will reduce the wear and tear, just as with any clutch car or motorcycle.
@motorofficerskilltraining yeah I started out slipping the clutch. I got sick of buying clutch kits. I learned how to ride clutchless. I haven't had to buy a new clutch in 2.5 years. It significantly reduces the wear and tear. Slipping the clutch is if course easier and safer because you can make full lock turns while moving slower. I don't think it should be the end goal though. It's a good tool to have in your tool box.
4:29 First of all, thank you very much for sharing your expertise and your time with your viewers. I would like to know if replacing my stock handlebars on my 2022 Road King with 14” ape hangers will impede my slow speed skills? Thank you.
Great stuff! I love your method so much better than the other methods advocated. I like the idea of saving my scoot clutch and stuff. I don't like the "pre-load and keep it loaded" philosophy. Seems like WAY too much wear and tear on expensive parts. I hope I can make it to Houston to train with you at some point.
On a separate note, I know your offset weave has a distance of 12 feet from one set to the next in the perpendicular plane, but what is the lateral distance between them? I have cones that I want to set up in a parking lot near me to practice, but I don't know what distance to set them at. Thanks.
How I dropped my bike... was practicing in the church parking lot on my sportster. Was trying the clutch only method for a slow u turn. got into a crack in the pavement and the bike stalled in the middle of my 18 ft turn.
A sportster can roll on top of you so I pushed off as the bike went down. Pulled my hamstring so I couldnt pick up the bike by myself with 1 good leg. called a buddy to help.. ill never hear the end of it! Lesson learned. .I had engine guard on the sportster so no damage. Imagine needing help to pick up a sportster!
It happened ! Embarrassing!
Wait!!! Please make a video on how to do the stop properly!!
Will do! Thanks for watching
Glad to see that you’re getting this moving along, hope I can make to one your classes, will you be having an even more advance class beside this one like the Lock & Lean guys? Just had shoulder surgery at the end of May so I can’t ride my bike yet until I get cleared.
Hey Jeff, Yes we will. This video was just excerpts of the whole class. Had to cut the video down for time.
@@motorofficertrainingwhat gear we're they in while doing the offset cone weave?
@@haroldyazzie3538 1st gear
Question, please:
What gear are you in when doing these maneuvers? First, or second?
Thank you
This is a great video Jay - really got some good hints!
I am working on my clutch control and see that I am too heavy on the rear brake. Going to try no rear brake exercise.
Could you do me a favor, a quick measurement.
It looks to me that your passenger seat is Mustang [79428] made to work with the police seat, not very common.
Could you measure from the BACK of solo seat to the BACK of the passenger seat and post it here for me? Would help with a FLHTP project I am working on...
Thanks
will do!
Around 11 inches or so
@@motorofficertraining Thanks so much Jay!
How can I buy the drop guards, I live in Houston Texas?
Motorcycledropguards.com
I liked your idea of taking off just using the "Friction Zone" and "Total Clutch Control". I liked the idea of just cruising the parking lot with NO THROTTLE and just using the clutch. However, when I try to do this exercise using my 2022 Indian Chieftain, it won't go fast enough just using the clutch and no throttle. Suggestions?
Peddle harder😅
When you say no throttle, you don’t mean running on idle? I’m assuming you mean setting the throttle and using only the clutch. I’ve taken several road safety courses by the local motorcycle officers and clutch control is always the first step. I’ve been riding for 25 years and failed my first MSF course because of poor instruction. Enjoy your videos and looking forward to trying the no power U turn. BTW I’m 86. And last year I was packed and ready to go for 3 day Rally when they put me in the hospital with cancer diagnosis. Just now starting to get my motorcycle legs back.
Do you have classes anywhere else?
Yes in Houston, Texas
Do you recommend your class for a total beginner??
For me, my MSF advanced course was 1 week after my 2 day MSF course. I used their bike for the 2-day and had purchased my bike (without even riding it) waiting in my driveway till I got my license and had it registered. I felt I needed to at least get to know my bike first before I take the advanced course so I wound up canceling the advanced course. I just didn’t feel I was ready, actually I knew I wasn’t ready. The bike I practiced on was a 250cc and my bike is a few hundred pounds heavier with a 1500cc engine. I thought I would take to it like a fish in water but was actually more like a fish out of water. I dropped the MSF bike twice during the figure 8. I struggled with it but somehow did it perfectly during the test. I did not want to drop my bike. This was back in November, and didn’t do much riding until recently when the weather started improving. I’ve taken it out maybe 5 times, still under 100 miles of riding hours. I plan on taking the course in July. That’s just me though, also a newbie. Maybe others will have a different opinion.
We’re is your classes
Kingwood, Texas
Where r you located,, I will like to have a class whith you
Houston, Texas
Iam from Miami Fl
Door strip show us that
Is that one of Jupiter's old FLHTPs?
Probably
@@motorofficertraining OK, thought the patch on the front and sides looked like it said Jupiter PD. If so, it was one of our old 2014s
@@josea5949 no its not an old Jupiter bike. Sorry thought u were being a S.A. lol
@@motorofficertraining No worries. Keep up the good videos
Very good video 😀