@@danwilson8390 That's not the take away... These people might hardly not ride that much, that's why they have survived. Better to know advanced skills and not use them, rather than not know at all.
@@danwilson8390 You don't need these skills until you do, then it's too late. Many motorcycles run a curb or worse run into oncoming traffic bc they can't turn and control their bikes well through sharp corners or switch backs. And even if you live in an area without twisties it's still an invaluable skill to have for all the unforeseen situations like ppl suddenly cutting into your lane, idiots running intersections, animals in the road, ect. Those aren't the situations to try and learn how to precisely control your bike.
Oh I agree with all you guys totally! I've been riding 20 years with all sorts of bikes and still learning all the time! Im in the UK and they strictly teach the life saver (over the shoulder) and I tell you that has saved me twice!! Safe riding ✌️
Some people really need to spend time in a parking lot practicing figure 8s, hard braking etc. at least twice a week to get better. I did that 25 years ago and it will save your ass more than once
I've been riding about the same length of time but not for a the last 6 months or so due to Covid restrictions on travelling. First thing I'm going to do when restrictions are lifted is exercises like this to get back in shape for the road. So much looking forward to it.
johnnyfearlesszrx COVID was the best excuse to get out and see backroads. I rode 25k miles last year and it was a blast. Tomorrow I’m going to Arkansas from Dallas for lunch. Can’t wait!
@@opichocal opichocal, I'm in England UK, we've been in lockdown for months. Unnecessary travel is illegal and has been for several months. Our lockdown is due to end on 21 June. We can go out to shop or exercise but pleasure riding can be fined. I'm happy to wait even if other bikers are risking it and getting away with it here.
Hey instructors team. Black Vulcan S 650 rider here, I had so much fun and learned a lot as a fairly new driver of 1 year and some change. The most important lesson for anyone coming to this class is "check your ego on the parking lot next door and LISTEN TO THE INSTRUCTIONS"! I rode a way a different better rider I think. Your tips on where to look and body movement not only corrected my mistakes but made me more confident and trust my bike.. Next year I'll be coming with a bigger bike for sure. Thanks for all your help.
Hi, I was wondering what do you have to do, to get a license in the US? To me this seems to be all basic stuff, most of which is mandatory test procedure here in Germany. I got my license 10 years ago and my instructors drilled stuff like "look where you want to go", clutch and rear brake control at slow speed, tight turns, weaving at various speeds, obviously leaning, emergency braking and evasion ... into my head for days before I was even allowed to register for the test ...
@@SamGamgee8012 Hi! I know in Europe taking the motorcycle license is more difficult than it is in US (in some states at least) and I know in Germany everything is more serious thant it is anywhere else. But have you been able to do everything those people are learning to do in this video imediately after you took your license? I'm asking you about it because I attended some riding skills classes organized by BMW Motorrad instructors in my country (Romania) and the level of difficulty for the advanced students was almost the same as i see in this video. As far as I have been told BMW Motorrad instructors are teaching everywhere what they learn in Germany. Wish you all the best!
I like how In depth you explain their mistakes and point out exactly what they should be doing. This is the kind of content I recommend to anyone that is nervous about a motorcycle test or riding in general. Keep it up 👍
I received a training when I was 16 and starting a job as mailman. They gave us a course similar to what you would expect for a bike exam. At that point I'd never even sat on a scooter and to this day I remember him telling me to stop thinking about it and just look where you want to go, fixate on the cones. It felt like I'd fall over any second but the scooter would just pull through. He also employed the technique of showing what the machine is capable of and that helped tremendously. Several years later and I now own a bike and feel comfortable on the road. I feel like taking courses is the next obvious step, after that it's track time. Teaching techniques like these are critical because most riders tend to ride alone, they don't have anyone correcting their mistakes for them.
Do it. Taught my GF how to ride in an empty parking lot with soccer cones. Learned (or re-learned) a few things myself in the process while testing out the turns.
Jerry wanted to say THANKS Your instruction on tube has been OUTSTANDING! I am 66 yrs old and finally have my dream HD an FLHTC. I rode my 1st motor at 12 yrs old and have riden HD for the last 30 yrs. I must admit that your courses have changed my riding style MUCH to the improved side. Thanks for all the help. Your courses "ride like a pro" are the best I have ever watched or participated in"NONE BETTER" and I do mean NONE F%$#^in Better!!!! Thanks for all you do for all us bikers. Smitty
Really interesting to see the different ways countries allow people on bikes. In the UK you wouldn't be allowed on a bike bigger than a 125cc if you couldn't do this. Roads might be busier here which could explain the stricter requirements.
ngl its a scary feeling for the first time when riding the bike and turning the head to look into the turn it feels so unnatural because you wanna see whats in front of you but if you look in front, you cant make the turn i really had to force my eyes into the turn a few times by consciously turning my head to prevent myself from a target fixation
I remember back to commuting to (and across) campus by bicycle. Cornering turns and curves required the same thing as is talked about here. It is crazy feeling, but if you can get yourself to quit over-thinking it and allow the bike to become like an extension of yourself, it seems to get much easier! And as far as bicycle vs motorcycle goes: I've run up the rear end of a campus police cruiser and a number of cars who were doing the 15mph speed limit, realizing as I did that I'd been speeding the whole time. I never had any kind of speedometer, and took the road from my apartment to class. Maybe I should have looked into one... 🤔🤨🤔 lol
That is so true. Being a safe rider is all about practice and honing your mental skills as much as physical. The more I ride the more I understand Zen and the motorcycle.
Hello I must say , i find your videos very helpful ! I past my drivers test in october 2020 , and now im trying to become the best rider i can ! At 43 years of age ! Thank you for a great chanel Jessica from Sweden
Lol you doing this at atleast 45kmh if you wanna get one :D Also that turn is much tighter and you have to brake turn and then accelerate out from it...
@@misc8932 It can be... I can meet his goals pretty easy with my bike (that I'm familiar with).. but I don't think I'd get it first time on an unfamiliar bike... I practice and aim for much smaller turns than he requires. Not everyone practices, or even properly learns to turn / steer. The hop on a bike, go pass the road test which is a bloody joke, and then stop learning.. after they've ridden "a few years " (usually more like first year a few times).. they go and attempt a course like this.. which is actually focused on fundamentals and proper execution of those fundamentals. This class isn't designed to give good low speed riders a challenge... it's designed to give those who aren't so great low speed riders the tools to become good riders. And to do so with goals set that are achievable with the limited time they have.... I'd expect a week long course with Jerry to have tighter tolerances and turning radius's than a 2 day course... just due to the amount of practice the riders can get in.
@@AlanDike That is very intelligent response. Anyone that starts off with a self assessment has a good riding attitude. To take it further even if you are experienced the greatest chance of getting into an accident is in the first year of that particular bike - regardless of years of riding. I have gotten drivers licenses in NC, TX, CA, and on 29 Palms Marine base. As a rider that wants to see you do well remember this, riding cones does not make you highly skilled, it helps you get comfortable with with actions you will need to perform to be highly skilled [muscle memory and without thinking]. Cones don't teach you what to do when someone pulls out in front of you, how to predict these things so that they are not surprises, how to not just drive through intersections because the light is green, how to do a U-turn when paved roads have gravel [like in TX after the snow we have gravel in all intersections and see bike drops all the time], how to communicate with riders effectively [like signal braking to tell someone that you are about to slow down], and so on. Advanced riding is learning these things. I wish you the best sir... My Dallas ride: ua-cam.com/video/4ajvBG3ieng/v-deo.html
Biggest rider mistake is thinking they can ride because they can go fast. Second biggest mistake is thinking they wouldn't benefit from a rider course like this. 100 percent respect for all these guys on this course. If you're going to do something wrong, this is the place to do it, not out on the road. Great video.
Jerry, when we train for slow techniques using circles (your Snowman exercise, for example) or the one you have in this video, we aim to get the front tyre to go as close as possible to the cones in the circle. Sometimes, given plenty of room, riders just do whatever they feel comfortable with. They enter the circle, look for the exit, and get out, giving most of the cones a wide berth, and without completing a decent circle or figure-eight. It seems to defeat the purpose of the exercise. Great video. We watch your videos at least twice, pausing a lot to discuss. Oh, and hello from Australia.
@@motorman857 Yes, and that's because they're not treating it like a circle,. Their technique on the largest of circles shows those cones don't even exist. When they pass the last cone in the slow weave they immediately look to the two cones for the exit. Until the look and see the green cone on their right, or as we do, look to every cone we need to approach as we go around, their head movements are going the wrong way from the beginning. That's what I see going on, and as you say, "Where you look is where you go."
@Travis Clark There is no pass or fail test. It's been my experience that all motorcycle riders who haven't taken any advanced training think they are experienced riders due to how many years or miles they've ridden. Then, they come to my class and quickly realize they are only experienced at cruising straight down the road, rounding a big bend in the road, and coming to an easy stop. When it comes to making quick transitions to avoid an obstacle, leaning turning, swerving, and braking then swerving, they are just beginners.
Jerry, I really enjoy your commentary and professional critique about proper vs improper slow riding techniques. This helps me immensely in keeping in mind/visualizing the correct techniques when I’m practicing my slow speed maneuvers. Thanks again!
It's easy to sit on a motorcycle , turn the throttle and go. People need to learn to manoever their bike at very low speed. If they ride a bike at low speed with a fully released clutch, it's just a dropped bike waiting to happen. Gotta play with that clutch!
This is really interesting Maybe because the yellow bike was tall he feared falling ? The best practice I have found is using your dvd drills on my bicycle first and then the motorcycle. It made it much easier for myself .
That’s a great point. I have a harder time leaning my 417# ADV @ low speed than my 850# tourer. It’s totally mental, but the fall just feels higher even though the ADV has crash bars
it's more about the feeling in the handlebar. Someone affraid to lean is turning by steering. You got to make a turn by pulling your grip towards the ground, that is the feeling you are after for most bikes
@@Gismo3333 you don't understand what I'm trying to say I'm not saying physically pulling anything, I'm talking about the felling of it Same as when people say they push the bike into the corner with their knees. They are not actually using the knees to steer but you get that sensation "pulling the handlebar toward the ground" is basically a short summary of the feeling of laying the bike flat, and some people need those words to get the proper feeling
@@Baer1990 the handiebars rotate around the headstock. the motions that efficiently affect the bike are fore and aft. if you are pulling up or pushing down you are just muscling the bike around. you might be able to get away with this in a parking lot but the faster you go it takes more force to perform the same maneuver. Also you have to be more deliberate, more precise with a heavier bike. Like he said it is way better to learn on a smaller bike or you never really learn how to control the bike.
To be honest, it''s kind of "sad" to see this called the "advanced training class". This should be one of the things you should known and learn before even getting your license. Well, I'm glad we have a pretty hard course and 3 exams (1 theoretical and 2 practicals) here in the Netherlands. You fail one, you don't get your license and you can go and take more lessons before re-taking the exam.
Not just sad; these vids are truly cringe-worthy. FWIW: When I was teaching my sister, she did much better when I put down a corridor of pylons so the front wheel track was much more obvious, rather than forcing her to spend a lot of novice attention to figuring out what each cone was for. She also quickly learned how lean affects the difference between front & back track, and always start the turn early as possible.
Just a quick question. How heavy are the bikes you do these tests on? Maybe a 650cc 600 lb motorcycle at the most? In this video the Harleys weigh close to 1000 lbs and are at least 1000 cc or more. So c'mon, let's see you maneuver a 1000 lb bike on a course like this.
I myself learned a lot from just watching your videos, but I went out to a big church parking lot and put the work in, I went to a motorcycle safety class No Cage's Harley Davidson,in Ohio was the best thing anyone could do,one main thing I really learned is point your nose where you want to be 👍up Motor Man
I have not ridden in years. Had a very early Goldwing. Recently bought a Suzuki Boulevard but it is ice and snow so giving it tires and brakes and oil change, etc. Watching your videos over and over. This is all gravel roads here but there is a nearby paved parking lot I intend to practice tight turning right and left because this a new bike to me and I am rusty. Thanks for this help plus it keeps me encouraged for the upcoming Spring riding.
I'm a new rider with 1000km on the clock. Bought a Honda cb500x , couldn't be happier. Easy power delivery, and nice to handle. I do my parking lot practice every time I go ride.
Got an advanced skills course booked for this summer, been riding dirt for a number of years and switched to street 2 years ago. Really want to push my skills as Im confident I could clear these exercises. Love the last bit, easier to learn on a smaller bike rather then a big bike!
I know how being afraid to lean feels, I had problems too. what worked for me was the instructor standing in the middle of an imaginary circle and I had to keep my eyes fixated on him while riding circles around him while simultaneously trying to continually make the circle smaller. That's when it all clicked for me and no more problems with leaning.
That is one technique that many instructors use... I tend to turn with the bike with one arm outstretched: look at my hand look at my hand... as i lead them around the circle until they get the correct eye lead time and angle.
Love your content Jerry, I've been riding for over 40 years, but always get benefit from your vids. Never get anywhere near enough practice, but always think of your methods,
After not riding for over 10 years I had problems in the parking lot. I ride sport bikes, my biggest problem was being too tense in the bars. I wouldn't let the bars turn enough to lean. Got back into the swing of things quickly and within a summer went from a 600 to a zx14. Bike I used to ride was a Gsxr1100 so I wanted the size and torque back lol. I will say this, I was happy I restarted riding on a smaller bike. Great class from the looks of it.
Jerry I haven't been close enough to take a class yet but I will one day. You really have saved life's with these videos. You've helped me mor than you know already. Thank you !!
Keep in mind that popular roads such as The Tail of the Dragon are full of these riders. Most of which will proudly say "I've ridden for XX years". It's scary. We need stricter licensing restrictions.
Just completed the basic course at 62 years-old to freshen skills that had perished over time. Corrected some bad habits and placed head movement back at the priority it belonged.
This is why in the UK we have a slow manoeuvre module one test in the uk for (big bikes) which the practice involves persistent practicing then a final examination of cone weaving, figure of eights, u-turns well within 25 feet with correct head turns and shoulder checks, very slow crawl clutch control without losing balance, high speed hazard swerve, high speed emergency stop, controlled stop front tyre to stop inside a small box of cones and correct manual handling and manoeuvring of the bike while physically off the bike. Then we have the module two which is your riding and road-craft, only by passing those modules can you gain your motorcycle license. Slow speed and tight manoeuvre on a vstrom 1000 is very easy especially with the assisted throttle clutch. I can imagine though the height of the bike and slight top heavy feeling can make some shorter people nervous to lean the bike at lower speeds even though it will spin on a dime. Figure of eights and 180 u-turns within 25 feet ideally 20 feet are really good practice along with learning good and bad target fixation and directing travel ie Pro: looking and commitment of where you want to be and Con: The paradox of looking and panicking about where you don’t want be and ending up there or wide etc.
The VStrom will easily do a 180 or figure-8 in under 18 feet with a competent rider... the Strom in my profile pic is an '02 without the clutch assist. The big difference between the UK system and the US system is that in the UK, you are limited to the smaller classes of bikes in the earlier stages of licensing, where in the US you are not. However, neither system requires continuous practice, nor do they require a complete bike size graduation - As Jerry says in reply to a couple other comments, in the EU, there is NOBODY showing up for their final exams on a 1000+cc bike that weighs 550-900 pounds - the tests are predicated on middleweight bikes that still have power restrictions. Cheers from Canada.
One of the first tips given me when I was training to operate a police bicycle (yup, bicycle) was "LOOK where you want to go." It worked every time, even on a 90 degree turn in the space of 18 inches.
I love these riding classes, it’s amazing how many Experienced riders have a hard time with the stuff. Some newer riders tend to do better, I think it’s because they come into it knowing they don’t know it all. With some of the experienced guys think I know everything because they’ve been riding for years.
Lot of these guys should try riding a 300 sport bike for the first time, or to brush up. They are so much more nimble and much slower at idle. This could maybe help them see what they are doing wrong by getting back on their bigger bikes as a comparison.
After watching this channel and MCRider and PRACTICING I can easily ace this stuff. That is why I KEEP PRACTICING REGULARLY. 10 minutes at the closed school parking lot before I head into the mountains keeps me sharp and I never stop learning. Be a better, safer rider and improve your skills and strategies, PRACTICE.
Still snowed in here in New York, waiting on warmer weather and sunshine to melt snow and ice. Will need parking lot practice to start the riding season.
When people think I'm a professional,, I direct them to your channel☆, (daily.) I remember your words,,"anyone can ride straight forward",& where you look is where you go!,,I say these words often,lol,Thanks for sharing Tee-!☆,
Hopefully interesting fact for all fellow riders. You won't even get your driving license if you cannot perform these types of maneuvers here in CZ Europe.
great video Jerry that was great can't wait until spring to get my bikes out and do some of the exercises you have learned me thanks take care ride safe
Great video Jerry as always. how i wish i could attend your classes unfortunately a little to far out for me I'm over in Alderney in the Channel Islands but learning a real lot just the same from you so many thanks for that.
I was lane sharing, then tucked in between 2 cars, check my mirror for my buddy that had fallen back (so he can catch up)... car brake checks me, my bars weren't straight, front brake, and I hit the deck in a blink. More embarrassed than anything, but your lesson is absolutely correct.
I seem to be able to make better tight U turns when turning to the left. I find it more difficult to manipulate the clutch and keeping it in the friction zone when my clutch arm is extended. Living in the UK and driving on the left this can be a problem because most U turns are to the right. I enjoy practicing in the local car park and gradually I'm getting better. Watching your vids I always pick up useful techniques.
Great review of the class! I was impressed when taking the course how willing you were to provide extra work off from the main group for those struggling. For those wounding if this course is worth it over the DVD's; I personally think Jerry, Donna, & Joe each give different tidbits to help in different ways and that was worth going through the course live. I also am looking forward to going through the DVD's & practicing more to hone the skills that were taught. Well worth the money!
The DVDs also don’t get you a closed course. Got run off by security in an empty parking lot already lol. Looking forward to seeing you in Daytona next week.
Passed my endorsement with flying colors thanks to you and a few other youtubers. I really appreciate everything you do for riders. My big tip is get familiar with your bike how it handles at very slow speeds as well as road speeds (do this somewhere safe and legal obviously), and LISTEN TO THE INSTRUCTOR, like really listen.
These riders remind me of when I started- I kept looking where I was at instead of where I wanted to go...I guess most new riders have that driving a car thought and seeing where they're at and where the car is, than where it wants to go. So, I guess that's the habit to break and understanding it's not a car.
I find it a bit crazy that some of them ride like this with really big, heavy bikes. How do u have the confidence to ride something so big and powerful without the skillset to handle the bike.
The bikes basically do the work for you on the highway at speed limit or slightly speeding. The riders don't miss the skills on leisure rides or low difficulty commuting.
In the Netherlands, and I figure some other countries too you have to turn in 20 feet as part of your drivers license skills. These guys wouldn't be allowed riding if it was there
"Unfortunately, it didn't really work." LOL! I love your videos. Informative AND entertaining. I wish you held classes in Central Texas, because I'd sign up for one. It's always good to brush up on your skills.
I am able to do tight u turns after looking were I wanted to go but just as important was having good feel/control over the clutch/throttle to the point where I know I can look/lean the bike while maintaining sufficient speed to keep the bike from falling.
Every rider that attends my class must have a motorcycle endorsement. These riders all have a motorcycle license to ride and have been riding, (some of them, for decades).
@@TopshelfJunior I'm guessing you've not attended any bike rally's or bike nights because what you're seeing in the class video's you will see even more so, at those events.
I dunno Jerry. I see basic riding skills here. My idea of advanced riding skills are like, max lean angle at min speed, U-turn on a hill (fore&aft as well as side slope) dealing with immediate road hazards at speed like surprise pot holes and debris. To name but a few. Not knocking your skill as a rider or a teacher (highest regards and respect), just your definition of the word "advanced".
Seems like the bikes are also too big for some of the riders skill levels. During an ARC I noticed many riders of large touring bikes, whether they were big Harley cruisers or Kawasaki Concours, were afraid of turning, afraid of leaning, some barely turned their heads too. They should focus on the basics on a lighter bike before jumping into something larger.
I love that NC community colleges offer the MSF class and if you pass you get your license. I got mine in CA when I was in the service and ten when I worked civil service I had to take it again because I lost the proof that I took it. It didn't hurt to take it again.
@@Tryke_Ryder That’s good that you passed and good that you took the course in the first place. Everyone should always take or retake a course before riding, even if they had their license before. At least in my state, the endorsement is valid for the rest of your life. Many people just figure they’ll get a new bike after not riding for decades, and that’s dangerous.
Another excellent video, Mr Palladino! Just an idea for one of your next videos: you may ride a tall adventure bike and demonstrate that with proper technique, like the one you teach, even people on the short side can ride at low speed with confidence. Of course this does not apply to you, as I heard you saying that you identify as a 6+ ft tall dude, so that's no worry for you :-) Will keep on following your work
I wish i ve watched this before taking my first lesson here in france... we have a mandatory exam, with a slow circuit to do over 14 sec, with several gates and i was scared about leaning at any speed...
We first saw you & purchased your DVDs at the Leesburg Bike fest a couple of years ago, My husband was so impressed, he took your course. I’ve been riding now for a year. My husband has coached me a lot using your techniques. Would love to actually take your course sometime.
@@sandylou494 Set up 6 cones in a straight line at 15ft apart. When you can weave thru them while in the friction zone without knocking them over, you're ready for the course. Watch the dvd and practice that first slow cone weave exercise then get out and do it.
I dont understand how people are that scared to lean. When I first had strugglin with leaning, I used my dad's bicycle snd practiced aggressively. Went back on the motorcycle and I was perfect at that. And not to mention my car racing experience for 13 years. Helped me tremendously with throttle control, shifting, and clutch control and braking skills. I was a master after that
I'm not an instructor, but I have taught some of my friends how to ride. And this is why I recommend that everyone start out on something small that you're not afraid of. I don't blame these guys for being scared to drop their $20k bikes, but they really will perform better than these riders.
Are you using the old plaza parking lot in NPR, FL?? Watching this brings back old memories of when that plaza was functional... lol. I just got back into riding after 8-9yrs off and have my refresher Basic course scheduled- I’d be interested in taking the advance with you guys in a few months if it really is that close to where I’m located!
We've been using the old Toys R' Us parking lot where Staples used to be along with 15 other businesses, every single one of them has closed, a real shame. We usually do our training at Gulf High School in New Port Richey, but since November and the Covid cases in the county, we haven't been able to get back to the parking lot till the cases fall below 5%, (which it has for a while now)...
Salutory lesson that we have to take that leap of faith and look where we want to go. I felt a bit for the V-Strom guy, that bike even has throttle assist to help you not stall it. For all of them being filmed was an added pressure but quite worrying that so some came nowhere near being able to do the course even after a few hours, back to the drawing board...
The camera had nothing to do with anything. Nothing changed when I wasn't holding a camera. The problem was an extreme fear of leaning the motorcycle. That fear can be overcome but it takes one on one lessons starting with gigantic turns.
makes sense, the newer riders doing better. less bad habits formed. i've noticed your "20 year" or "30 year" or just "experienced" riders have the hardest time.
Kinda sobering knowing some of these riders have been riding for years like this.
Makes you think you don't actually have to do these manoeuvres in the real world!! Still good to know though!
@@danwilson8390 That's not the take away... These people might hardly not ride that much, that's why they have survived. Better to know advanced skills and not use them, rather than not know at all.
@@danwilson8390 You don't need these skills until you do, then it's too late. Many motorcycles run a curb or worse run into oncoming traffic bc they can't turn and control their bikes well through sharp corners or switch backs. And even if you live in an area without twisties it's still an invaluable skill to have for all the unforeseen situations like ppl suddenly cutting into your lane, idiots running intersections, animals in the road, ect. Those aren't the situations to try and learn how to precisely control your bike.
@@danwilson8390 if you plan on not dying you should learn to completely fucking dominate the bike
Oh I agree with all you guys totally! I've been riding 20 years with all sorts of bikes and still learning all the time! Im in the UK and they strictly teach the life saver (over the shoulder) and I tell you that has saved me twice!! Safe riding ✌️
Some people really need to spend time in a parking lot practicing figure 8s, hard braking etc. at least twice a week to get better. I did that 25 years ago and it will save your ass more than once
Absolutely!!!
I've been riding about the same length of time but not for a the last 6 months or so due to Covid restrictions on travelling.
First thing I'm going to do when restrictions are lifted is exercises like this to get back in shape for the road. So much looking forward to it.
johnnyfearlesszrx COVID was the best excuse to get out and see backroads. I rode 25k miles last year and it was a blast. Tomorrow I’m going to Arkansas from Dallas for lunch. Can’t wait!
@@opichocal opichocal, I'm in England UK, we've been in lockdown for months. Unnecessary travel is illegal and has been for several months. Our lockdown is due to end on 21 June. We can go out to shop or exercise but pleasure riding can be fined.
I'm happy to wait even if other bikers are risking it and getting away with it here.
@@johnnyfearlesszrx that's the bit I dont get. Out for a ride on ur bike has to b so covid safe?. . Face covered gloves fresh air all on your own
Hey instructors team. Black Vulcan S 650 rider here, I had so much fun and learned a lot as a fairly new driver of 1 year and some change. The most important lesson for anyone coming to this class is "check your ego on the parking lot next door and LISTEN TO THE INSTRUCTIONS"! I rode a way a different better rider I think. Your tips on where to look and body movement not only corrected my mistakes but made me more confident and trust my bike.. Next year I'll be coming with a bigger bike for sure. Thanks for all your help.
You did an excellent job. Glad I could help.
Bravo, Dušane! Vrlo dobro!
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Hi, I was wondering what do you have to do, to get a license in the US? To me this seems to be all basic stuff, most of which is mandatory test procedure here in Germany. I got my license 10 years ago and my instructors drilled stuff like "look where you want to go", clutch and rear brake control at slow speed, tight turns, weaving at various speeds, obviously leaning, emergency braking and evasion ... into my head for days before I was even allowed to register for the test ...
@@SamGamgee8012 Hi! I know in Europe taking the motorcycle license is more difficult than it is in US (in some states at least) and I know in Germany everything is more serious thant it is anywhere else. But have you been able to do everything those people are learning to do in this video imediately after you took your license? I'm asking you about it because I attended some riding skills classes organized by BMW Motorrad instructors in my country (Romania) and the level of difficulty for the advanced students was almost the same as i see in this video. As far as I have been told BMW Motorrad instructors are teaching everywhere what they learn in Germany. Wish you all the best!
I like how In depth you explain their mistakes and point out exactly what they should be doing. This is the kind of content I recommend to anyone that is nervous about a motorcycle test or riding in general. Keep it up 👍
Thanks!
I received a training when I was 16 and starting a job as mailman. They gave us a course similar to what you would expect for a bike exam. At that point I'd never even sat on a scooter and to this day I remember him telling me to stop thinking about it and just look where you want to go, fixate on the cones. It felt like I'd fall over any second but the scooter would just pull through. He also employed the technique of showing what the machine is capable of and that helped tremendously.
Several years later and I now own a bike and feel comfortable on the road. I feel like taking courses is the next obvious step, after that it's track time.
Teaching techniques like these are critical because most riders tend to ride alone, they don't have anyone correcting their mistakes for them.
That's like me on the first ride after 5-1/2 months of winter. Practice, practice, practice.
These videos make me wanna go buy some cones and try this stuff out lol
Do it. Taught my GF how to ride in an empty parking lot with soccer cones. Learned (or re-learned) a few things myself in the process while testing out the turns.
I was literally just thinking of ways to make homemade cones when I saw your comment
@@evanMCCallister121 you can probably fill solo cups with rocks and lay them out
@@evanMCCallister121 beer cans with a bit of water work well. Avoid glass bottle though (plastic is okay).
Did you buy some?
Jerry wanted to say THANKS Your instruction on tube has been OUTSTANDING! I am 66 yrs old and finally have my dream HD an FLHTC. I rode my 1st motor at 12 yrs old and have riden HD for the last 30 yrs. I must admit that your courses have changed my riding style MUCH to the improved side. Thanks for all the help. Your courses "ride like a pro" are the best I have ever watched or participated in"NONE BETTER" and I do mean NONE F%$#^in Better!!!!
Thanks for all you do for all us bikers. Smitty
Really interesting to see the different ways countries allow people on bikes. In the UK you wouldn't be allowed on a bike bigger than a 125cc if you couldn't do this. Roads might be busier here which could explain the stricter requirements.
ngl its a scary feeling for the first time when riding the bike and turning the head to look into the turn
it feels so unnatural because you wanna see whats in front of you but if you look in front, you cant make the turn
i really had to force my eyes into the turn a few times by consciously turning my head to prevent myself from a target fixation
I remember back to commuting to (and across) campus by bicycle. Cornering turns and curves required the same thing as is talked about here. It is crazy feeling, but if you can get yourself to quit over-thinking it and allow the bike to become like an extension of yourself, it seems to get much easier!
And as far as bicycle vs motorcycle goes: I've run up the rear end of a campus police cruiser and a number of cars who were doing the 15mph speed limit, realizing as I did that I'd been speeding the whole time. I never had any kind of speedometer, and took the road from my apartment to class. Maybe I should have looked into one... 🤔🤨🤔 lol
That is so true. Being a safe rider is all about practice and honing your mental skills as much as physical. The more I ride the more I understand Zen and the motorcycle.
It’s my birthday tomorrow. I was planning to get my Fatboy out and take it for spin. Good tips and great material as usual.
That'd my dream bike
Hello
I must say , i find your videos very helpful ! I past my drivers test in october 2020 , and now im trying to become the best rider i can ! At 43 years of age !
Thank you for a great chanel
Jessica from Sweden
In Germany you can't get a driving license without being able to do so.
Lol you doing this at atleast 45kmh if you wanna get one :D
Also that turn is much tighter and you have to brake turn and then accelerate out from it...
Are motorcycles even allowed on the autobahn?
@@bonda_racing3579 yes
In the USA you barely need to pass a written test in some states...
@@RideWithRen Damn I`m moving from germany to the US i guess
Thanks for all that you share i have been riding for over 30 years and i wish i had seen your videos 30 years ago thanks again
This looks pretty challenging, I need to head down to one of your classes one of these days.
This is challenging?
@@misc8932 It is objectively challenging...hence the name Advanced Rider's Course.
You would be the first guy on the ground.
@@misc8932 It can be... I can meet his goals pretty easy with my bike (that I'm familiar with).. but I don't think I'd get it first time on an unfamiliar bike... I practice and aim for much smaller turns than he requires.
Not everyone practices, or even properly learns to turn / steer. The hop on a bike, go pass the road test which is a bloody joke, and then stop learning.. after they've ridden "a few years " (usually more like first year a few times).. they go and attempt a course like this.. which is actually focused on fundamentals and proper execution of those fundamentals.
This class isn't designed to give good low speed riders a challenge... it's designed to give those who aren't so great low speed riders the tools to become good riders. And to do so with goals set that are achievable with the limited time they have.... I'd expect a week long course with Jerry to have tighter tolerances and turning radius's than a 2 day course... just due to the amount of practice the riders can get in.
@@someguy5035 I will meet you any day, anywhere and out drive you any time and have someone film it.
@@AlanDike That is very intelligent response. Anyone that starts off with a self assessment has a good riding attitude. To take it further even if you are experienced the greatest chance of getting into an accident is in the first year of that particular bike - regardless of years of riding. I have gotten drivers licenses in NC, TX, CA, and on 29 Palms Marine base. As a rider that wants to see you do well remember this, riding cones does not make you highly skilled, it helps you get comfortable with with actions you will need to perform to be highly skilled [muscle memory and without thinking]. Cones don't teach you what to do when someone pulls out in front of you, how to predict these things so that they are not surprises, how to not just drive through intersections because the light is green, how to do a U-turn when paved roads have gravel [like in TX after the snow we have gravel in all intersections and see bike drops all the time], how to communicate with riders effectively [like signal braking to tell someone that you are about to slow down], and so on. Advanced riding is learning these things. I wish you the best sir...
My Dallas ride:
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Biggest rider mistake is thinking they can ride because they can go fast.
Second biggest mistake is thinking they wouldn't benefit from a rider course like this.
100 percent respect for all these guys on this course. If you're going to do something wrong, this is the place to do it, not out on the road. Great video.
Jerry, when we train for slow techniques using circles (your Snowman exercise, for example) or the one you have in this video, we aim to get the front tyre to go as close as possible to the cones in the circle. Sometimes, given plenty of room, riders just do whatever they feel comfortable with. They enter the circle, look for the exit, and get out, giving most of the cones a wide berth, and without completing a decent circle or figure-eight. It seems to defeat the purpose of the exercise. Great video. We watch your videos at least twice, pausing a lot to discuss. Oh, and hello from Australia.
Cutting a 30ft circle short is easy. Cutting an 18ft circle short on a full size bike, means you ain't gonna make it.
@@motorman857 Yes, and that's because they're not treating it like a circle,. Their technique on the largest of circles shows those cones don't even exist. When they pass the last cone in the slow weave they immediately look to the two cones for the exit. Until the look and see the green cone on their right, or as we do, look to every cone we need to approach as we go around, their head movements are going the wrong way from the beginning. That's what I see going on, and as you say, "Where you look is where you go."
@Travis Clark There is no pass or fail test. It's been my experience that all motorcycle riders who haven't taken any advanced training think they are experienced riders due to how many years or miles they've ridden. Then, they come to my class and quickly realize they are only experienced at cruising straight down the road, rounding a big bend in the road, and coming to an easy stop. When it comes to making quick transitions to avoid an obstacle, leaning turning, swerving, and braking then swerving, they are just beginners.
Jerry, I really enjoy your commentary and professional critique about proper vs improper slow riding techniques. This helps me immensely in keeping in mind/visualizing the correct techniques when I’m practicing my slow speed maneuvers. Thanks again!
Went on my first real ride today. Jerry helped my slow turns soooo much.
Thank you, Mr. M. Can't get enough of that MotorMan magic. Mrs. M. always adds some nice icing to the cake too.
It's easy to sit on a motorcycle , turn the throttle and go. People need to learn to manoever their bike at very low speed. If they ride a bike at low speed with a fully released clutch, it's just a dropped bike waiting to happen. Gotta play with that clutch!
Great advice and kudos to all those riders out there trying to improve. Lots of information to practice. Thanks for doing these insightful videos
This is really interesting Maybe because the yellow bike was tall he feared falling ? The best practice I have found is using your dvd drills on my bicycle first and then the motorcycle. It made it much easier for myself .
That’s a great point. I have a harder time leaning my 417# ADV @ low speed than my 850# tourer. It’s totally mental, but the fall just feels higher even though the ADV has crash bars
it's more about the feeling in the handlebar. Someone affraid to lean is turning by steering. You got to make a turn by pulling your grip towards the ground, that is the feeling you are after for most bikes
@@PetrolJunkie your philosophy makes sense do this stuff without cones first
@@Gismo3333 you don't understand what I'm trying to say
I'm not saying physically pulling anything, I'm talking about the felling of it
Same as when people say they push the bike into the corner with their knees. They are not actually using the knees to steer but you get that sensation
"pulling the handlebar toward the ground" is basically a short summary of the feeling of laying the bike flat, and some people need those words to get the proper feeling
@@Baer1990 the handiebars rotate around the headstock. the motions that efficiently affect the bike are fore and aft. if you are pulling up or pushing down you are just muscling the bike around. you might be able to get away with this in a parking lot but the faster you go it takes more force to perform the same maneuver. Also you have to be more deliberate, more precise with a heavier bike. Like he said it is way better to learn on a smaller bike or you never really learn how to control the bike.
To be honest, it''s kind of "sad" to see this called the "advanced training class". This should be one of the things you should known and learn before even getting your license. Well, I'm glad we have a pretty hard course and 3 exams (1 theoretical and 2 practicals) here in the Netherlands. You fail one, you don't get your license and you can go and take more lessons before re-taking the exam.
Not just sad; these vids are truly cringe-worthy. FWIW: When I was teaching my sister, she did much better when I put down a corridor of pylons so the front wheel track was much more obvious, rather than forcing her to spend a lot of novice attention to figuring out what each cone was for. She also quickly learned how lean affects the difference between front & back track, and always start the turn early as possible.
Scary, that they're legally on the road already.
Just a quick question. How heavy are the bikes you do these tests on? Maybe a 650cc 600 lb motorcycle at the most? In this video the Harleys weigh close to 1000 lbs and are at least 1000 cc or more. So c'mon, let's see you maneuver a 1000 lb bike on a course like this.
Awesome to see You do it on the V-Strom. I thought You were only riding cruisers. Nice vid.!
I myself learned a lot from just watching your videos, but I went out to a big church parking lot and put the work in, I went to a motorcycle safety class No Cage's Harley Davidson,in Ohio was the best thing anyone could do,one main thing I really learned is point your nose where you want to be 👍up Motor Man
Safest place is on church holy ground. Just gotta ask Jesus for some help in not dropping a new bike while practicing! Haha
It would be nice to have one of your classes near Cleveland. Always learn something from each of your videos.
I have not ridden in years. Had a very early Goldwing. Recently bought a Suzuki Boulevard but it is ice and snow so giving it tires and brakes and oil change, etc. Watching your videos over and over. This is all gravel roads here but there is a nearby paved parking lot I intend to practice tight turning right and left because this a new bike to me and I am rusty. Thanks for this help plus it keeps me encouraged for the upcoming Spring riding.
I'm a new rider with 1000km on the clock. Bought a Honda cb500x , couldn't be happier. Easy power delivery, and nice to handle. I do my parking lot practice every time I go ride.
Got an advanced skills course booked for this summer, been riding dirt for a number of years and switched to street 2 years ago. Really want to push my skills as Im confident I could clear these exercises. Love the last bit, easier to learn on a smaller bike rather then a big bike!
I know how being afraid to lean feels, I had problems too. what worked for me was the instructor standing in the middle of an imaginary circle and I had to keep my eyes fixated on him while riding circles around him while simultaneously trying to continually make the circle smaller. That's when it all clicked for me and no more problems with leaning.
That is one technique that many instructors use... I tend to turn with the bike with one arm outstretched: look at my hand look at my hand... as i lead them around the circle until they get the correct eye lead time and angle.
Love your content Jerry, I've been riding for over 40 years, but always get benefit from your vids.
Never get anywhere near enough practice, but always think of your methods,
After not riding for over 10 years I had problems in the parking lot. I ride sport bikes, my biggest problem was being too tense in the bars. I wouldn't let the bars turn enough to lean. Got back into the swing of things quickly and within a summer went from a 600 to a zx14. Bike I used to ride was a Gsxr1100 so I wanted the size and torque back lol.
I will say this, I was happy I restarted riding on a smaller bike. Great class from the looks of it.
I watch all of your video that are training related. As a RiderCoach I think this is one of your best yet, narrative wise. Keep it. Scott
Appreciate that
Jerry I haven't been close enough to take a class yet but I will one day. You really have saved life's with these videos. You've helped me mor than you know already. Thank you !!
Keep in mind that popular roads such as The Tail of the Dragon are full of these riders. Most of which will proudly say "I've ridden for XX years". It's scary. We need stricter licensing restrictions.
A true enjoyable and knowledgeable video, not easy as it seems in the beginning.
Just completed the basic course at 62 years-old to freshen skills that had perished over time. Corrected some bad habits and placed head movement back at the priority it belonged.
Thank you.. I need to get out and practice more after watching this.
Motorman is the best instructor for motorcycles. Learned a lot from him over the years
This is why in the UK we have a slow manoeuvre module one test in the uk for (big bikes) which the practice involves persistent practicing then a final examination of cone weaving, figure of eights, u-turns well within 25 feet with correct head turns and shoulder checks, very slow crawl clutch control without losing balance, high speed hazard swerve, high speed emergency stop, controlled stop front tyre to stop inside a small box of cones and correct manual handling and manoeuvring of the bike while physically off the bike. Then we have the module two which is your riding and road-craft, only by passing those modules can you gain your motorcycle license. Slow speed and tight manoeuvre on a vstrom 1000 is very easy especially with the assisted throttle clutch. I can imagine though the height of the bike and slight top heavy feeling can make some shorter people nervous to lean the bike at lower speeds even though it will spin on a dime. Figure of eights and 180 u-turns within 25 feet ideally 20 feet are really good practice along with learning good and bad target fixation and directing travel ie Pro: looking and commitment of where you want to be and Con: The paradox of looking and panicking about where you don’t want be and ending up there or wide etc.
The VStrom will easily do a 180 or figure-8 in under 18 feet with a competent rider... the Strom in my profile pic is an '02 without the clutch assist. The big difference between the UK system and the US system is that in the UK, you are limited to the smaller classes of bikes in the earlier stages of licensing, where in the US you are not. However, neither system requires continuous practice, nor do they require a complete bike size graduation - As Jerry says in reply to a couple other comments, in the EU, there is NOBODY showing up for their final exams on a 1000+cc bike that weighs 550-900 pounds - the tests are predicated on middleweight bikes that still have power restrictions. Cheers from Canada.
Thx to you and the students Motorman...very informative to us out here in UA-cam land...
One of the first tips given me when I was training to operate a police bicycle (yup, bicycle) was "LOOK where you want to go." It worked every time, even on a 90 degree turn in the space of 18 inches.
I always learn something from watching your videos! I am a new rider, learned to ride on my current bike, vulcan 2000.
I love these riding classes, it’s amazing how many Experienced riders have a hard time with the stuff. Some newer riders tend to do better, I think it’s because they come into it knowing they don’t know it all. With some of the experienced guys think I know everything because they’ve been riding for years.
Lot of these guys should try riding a 300 sport bike for the first time, or to brush up. They are so much more nimble and much slower at idle. This could maybe help them see what they are doing wrong by getting back on their bigger bikes as a comparison.
After watching this channel and MCRider and PRACTICING I can easily ace this stuff. That is why I KEEP PRACTICING REGULARLY. 10 minutes at the closed school parking lot before I head into the mountains keeps me sharp and I never stop learning. Be a better, safer rider and improve your skills and strategies, PRACTICE.
Keep it up
Great class, I learned a lot and feel much more confident now.
It was nice meeting you yesterday, John. You did very well at class, you were one of the top riders.
@@motorman857 thanks I plan on coming back again, I want to make that 18ft u-turn....
Still snowed in here in New York, waiting on warmer weather and sunshine to melt snow and ice. Will need parking lot practice to start the riding season.
Welcome back, Donna!! Thanks for the tips, Motorman!
When people think I'm a professional,, I direct them to your channel☆, (daily.) I remember your words,,"anyone can ride straight forward",& where you look is where you go!,,I say these words often,lol,Thanks for sharing Tee-!☆,
Hopefully interesting fact for all fellow riders. You won't even get your driving license if you cannot perform these types of maneuvers here in CZ Europe.
Great channel ! Just like you said.... where you look is where you go.
great video Jerry that was great can't wait until spring to get my bikes out and do some of the exercises you have learned me thanks take care ride safe
Great video Jerry as always. how i wish i could attend your classes unfortunately a little to far out for me I'm over in Alderney in the Channel Islands but learning a real lot just the same from you so many thanks for that.
Never been big on Harleys. Always been a Honda XR type. But watching these vids is making me look hard at a FLHTP as my next ride 🤔👍
I was lane sharing, then tucked in between 2 cars, check my mirror for my buddy that had fallen back (so he can catch up)... car brake checks me, my bars weren't straight, front brake, and I hit the deck in a blink. More embarrassed than anything, but your lesson is absolutely correct.
I seem to be able to make better tight U turns when turning to the left. I find it more difficult to manipulate the clutch and keeping it in the friction zone when my clutch arm is extended. Living in the UK and driving on the left this can be a problem because most U turns are to the right. I enjoy practicing in the local car park and gradually I'm getting better. Watching your vids I always pick up useful techniques.
Excellent! The voiceover videos are the best.
Great review of the class! I was impressed when taking the course how willing you were to provide extra work off from the main group for those struggling. For those wounding if this course is worth it over the DVD's; I personally think Jerry, Donna, & Joe each give different tidbits to help in different ways and that was worth going through the course live. I also am looking forward to going through the DVD's & practicing more to hone the skills that were taught. Well worth the money!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The DVDs also don’t get you a closed course. Got run off by security in an empty parking lot already lol.
Looking forward to seeing you in Daytona next week.
@@jeffduckworth9092 You talking to Jerry or me?
Passed my endorsement with flying colors thanks to you and a few other youtubers. I really appreciate everything you do for riders. My big tip is get familiar with your bike how it handles at very slow speeds as well as road speeds (do this somewhere safe and legal obviously), and LISTEN TO THE INSTRUCTOR, like really listen.
These riders remind me of when I started- I kept looking where I was at instead of where I wanted to go...I guess most new riders have that driving a car thought and seeing where they're at and where the car is, than where it wants to go. So, I guess that's the habit to break and understanding it's not a car.
I find it a bit crazy that some of them ride like this with really big, heavy bikes. How do u have the confidence to ride something so big and powerful without the skillset to handle the bike.
The bikes basically do the work for you on the highway at speed limit or slightly speeding.
The riders don't miss the skills on leisure rides or low difficulty commuting.
Egos. That and only riding big, straight roads once a month, and polishing the chrome the rest of the time
In the Netherlands, and I figure some other countries too you have to turn in 20 feet as part of your drivers license skills. These guys wouldn't be allowed riding if it was there
Class had a full menu of motorcycle types. Great to see the Kawasaki Vulcan new rider, execute with precision.
"Unfortunately, it didn't really work." LOL! I love your videos. Informative AND entertaining. I wish you held classes in Central Texas, because I'd sign up for one. It's always good to brush up on your skills.
I am able to do tight u turns after looking were I wanted to go but just as important was having good feel/control over the clutch/throttle to the point where I know I can look/lean the bike while maintaining sufficient speed to keep the bike from falling.
Crazy that this is an advanced course and these guys already have their license.
Great footage !!! Great commentary !!! GREAT TEACHING MATERIAL !!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
I wish you were doing a class in PA or MD. I would love to go!
ridelikeapro.com and click on training locations. We have 3 schools in the states you mentioned.
@@motorman857 thanks I missed that completely. Scheduled my class for June!!
Hold on hold on, these people rode their OWN bikes to the class ?! Some of these people should NOT have a license yet ! Or did they ?!
Every rider that attends my class must have a motorcycle endorsement. These riders all have a motorcycle license to ride and have been riding, (some of them, for decades).
@@motorman857 Wow. Shocked.
@@TopshelfJunior I'm guessing you've not attended any bike rally's or bike nights because what you're seeing in the class video's you will see even more so, at those events.
1 milion dollar insurance on wife
Loved it 😄
I dunno Jerry. I see basic riding skills here. My idea of advanced riding skills are like, max lean angle at min speed, U-turn on a hill (fore&aft as well as side slope) dealing with immediate road hazards at speed like surprise pot holes and debris. To name but a few.
Not knocking your skill as a rider or a teacher (highest regards and respect), just your definition of the word "advanced".
This program literally saved my life...
Seems like the bikes are also too big for some of the riders skill levels. During an ARC I noticed many riders of large touring bikes, whether they were big Harley cruisers or Kawasaki Concours, were afraid of turning, afraid of leaning, some barely turned their heads too. They should focus on the basics on a lighter bike before jumping into something larger.
first time i have seen your channel, very interesting to watch. thanks for posting.
I always enjoy your videos I learned a lot from you thank you so much
Ah... As a new rider. Glad I bought a lighter bike. And I'm subbing to all tutorial videos that I could find. Thanks for this.
I ride what is often called a chopper. I refer to it as a long bike. These techniques work on her as well.
I love that NC community colleges offer the MSF class and if you pass you get your license. I got mine in CA when I was in the service and ten when I worked civil service I had to take it again because I lost the proof that I took it. It didn't hurt to take it again.
The nervous thing got me as well. I wish I had watched your videos before I took the MSA class...
Have you passed now?
@@johnnybravo3612 yes, I passed later that day, just failed in my first attempt. It had been 35+ years since I’d Ben on a bike out of practice!🤷🏻♂️
@@Tryke_Ryder That’s good that you passed and good that you took the course in the first place. Everyone should always take or retake a course before riding, even if they had their license before. At least in my state, the endorsement is valid for the rest of your life. Many people just figure they’ll get a new bike after not riding for decades, and that’s dangerous.
I think some riders may be better off practicing on a bicycle first.
Hahaha. Funny!
Yup, I want to be able to this with ease, I better get practicing!!!
love, love, love your commentary. Raw but Real!!! LOLOL!
Excellent slow mo vid to see what is actually happening. 😎👍🇨🇦
The guys that are nervous are actually the bravest. They are trying to overcome their fears.
Another excellent video, Mr Palladino! Just an idea for one of your next videos: you may ride a tall adventure bike and demonstrate that with proper technique, like the one you teach, even people on the short side can ride at low speed with confidence. Of course this does not apply to you, as I heard you saying that you identify as a 6+ ft tall dude, so that's no worry for you :-) Will keep on following your work
I wish i ve watched this before taking my first lesson here in france... we have a mandatory exam, with a slow circuit to do over 14 sec, with several gates and i was scared about leaning at any speed...
Keep these tips coming Jerry!
We first saw you & purchased your DVDs at the Leesburg Bike fest a couple of years ago, My husband was so impressed, he took your course. I’ve been riding now for a year. My husband has coached me a lot using your techniques. Would love to actually take your course sometime.
Well, I'm still here.
@@motorman857 I thought, to qualify for your course, I had to have X amount of hours acquired first in experienced riding.
@@sandylou494 Set up 6 cones in a straight line at 15ft apart. When you can weave thru them while in the friction zone without knocking them over, you're ready for the course. Watch the dvd and practice that first slow cone weave exercise then get out and do it.
@@motorman857 ohhh, I already do that 😀
Nobody wants to go near that green cone...lol must be kryptonite or something
great video for us beginners...no matter how old we are..hahaha...thankyou!
I dont understand how people are that scared to lean. When I first had strugglin with leaning, I used my dad's bicycle snd practiced aggressively. Went back on the motorcycle and I was perfect at that. And not to mention my car racing experience for 13 years. Helped me tremendously with throttle control, shifting, and clutch control and braking skills. I was a master after that
I'm not an instructor, but I have taught some of my friends how to ride. And this is why I recommend that everyone start out on something small that you're not afraid of. I don't blame these guys for being scared to drop their $20k bikes, but they really will perform better than these riders.
Are you using the old plaza parking lot in NPR, FL?? Watching this brings back old memories of when that plaza was functional... lol. I just got back into riding after 8-9yrs off and have my refresher Basic course scheduled- I’d be interested in taking the advance with you guys in a few months if it really is that close to where I’m located!
We've been using the old Toys R' Us parking lot where Staples used to be along with 15 other businesses, every single one of them has closed, a real shame. We usually do our training at Gulf High School in New Port Richey, but since November and the Covid cases in the county, we haven't been able to get back to the parking lot till the cases fall below 5%, (which it has for a while now)...
Nice work Motor Man, loving it.
Salutory lesson that we have to take that leap of faith and look where we want to go. I felt a bit for the V-Strom guy, that bike even has throttle assist to help you not stall it. For all of them being filmed was an added pressure but quite worrying that so some came nowhere near being able to do the course even after a few hours, back to the drawing board...
The camera had nothing to do with anything. Nothing changed when I wasn't holding a camera. The problem was an extreme fear of leaning the motorcycle. That fear can be overcome but it takes one on one lessons starting with gigantic turns.
Excellent video MM!
Thanks for your video.
makes sense, the newer riders doing better. less bad habits formed. i've noticed your "20 year" or "30 year" or just "experienced" riders have the hardest time.