Your videos are so informative because you don't only show 'what' you are doing, but you explain your thinking about 'why' you're making the decisions you've made about your process. Obviously, every home DIY project is going to have some variations compared to the one you're demonstrating with, but if we understand why certain steps are done then we can make adjustments to our own process confidently.
I jumped on UA-cam to find out how to measure up tread accurately before cutting and I found the solution in your jig. It will be the cause of my neighbours wondering why my swearing has stopped. Thanks for posting.
The jig is brilliant. I’m definitely going to use that when I do my basement stairs. Corners come ut really good. Always professional, clear and concise.
Once again I tuned into your channel to see if I could get a problem resolved. As usual, you came through again. Thanks. Everyone I talked to who “does” vinyl flooring said there’s no way to do stairs cleanly. They won’t take vinyl jobs with stairs. Once again I’m a cut above the competition because of your in depth tutorial videos. You better not retire from sharing your experience on University of UA-cam. 👍👍
You are a great teacher, Shannon. If I had a shop teacher like you decades ago I wouldn't be as technically challenged as I am. I found you by accident but shall be back again! Thank you.
Always very informative. I've been looking at redoing my main staircase and vinyl plank may be the answer over more traditional thicker boards or having to rip out the existing steps. Since its so thin, you really don't have to worry about changing the riser/step height and make the "feel" odd or way out of the normal 8" it typically is. Less than 1/4" will not be noticed.
Your videos provide a wealth of information by not just demonstrating the "what" of your actions, but also delving into the "why" behind the decisions shaping your process. While each home DIY project may exhibit unique deviations from the one showcased, comprehending the rationale behind specific steps empowers us to confidently adapt and fine-tune our own approach.
It’s best to put the riser piece on top of the tread. That will give you a nice straight board edge to lay on top as well as keep the dust, dirt and grime from getting down in the gaps after everything settles. Looks good though sir👍
Thank you for doing this video, I’ve wanted to do the same to our stairs for quite sometime but wasn’t sure how to proceed and also get the proper nose edge. I do worry that the stairs will be slippery but the nose seem to look as though it would help keep someone on socks from slipping. Great job
I think I prefer the heating and bending jig for the nose but that forces you to the wider planks. I am concerned about slipping for my project too. I suppose you could route out a few very shallow grooves on the treads, but not sure how that would look, and I expect it voids the material warranty. I’d hope the manufactures would offer stair tread with nose and slip solution. Your cutting jig is a great idea.
Great video! I’m doing a remodel for a client and we can’t get a flooring company out to our job site. I now feel confident I can do the stairs myself, so thank you!
Excellent application of carpentry knowledge and skill...as a journey carpenter since 1981 I learned something here....keep learning....keep teaching what you know.....
Excellent videos, Shannon! I'm a retired carpenter, and I can assure people that not only do you thoroughly explain and show every step, you know what you're talking about and, most importantly, you do things the right way with no shortcuts.
Shannon, I used your video of installing hardwood flooring on stairs as a guide for my own house. It turned out great. I may use this method to install LVP for my stairs going to the basement.
Looks Great Shannon, glad I found you today. I want to replace the carpet in my room above the garage and did not have a plan for the carpet on the stairs. This video will help me to solve the problem. Thank you
Thanks Shannon. This is the exactly what I need. Almost looks like the same half staircase down to my basement. I've already ripped up the old carpet and I'm using LVP for the flooring, so I need to replace with the LVP risers and treads. I had no idea how to do the bullnosing, so this video is perfect for my use case. Thanks again.
Just got the floor jig because of your video, didn’t know they existed been doing this 12 years. I found it to be much less time consuming to quickly trace and cut on the table saw with miter gauge for the butts instead of a razor blade.
I just watched an English dude make a jig for the nose and form a piece of vinyl with a heat gun and some clamps. It worked pretty slick. He did all the treads first.
I was thinking the exact same thing because I watched it too. I would rather match the existing floor 100% with his method. But I will say Shannon's turned out Damn good as well. I bet that sucked scraping all that foam off.
Yea try scoring it with a knife and then breaking it off by hand when the cut piece is that small, sometimes that floor is very sharp you'll slice your hand on it, won't want to do that again after haha.
I always found stairs take longer to install than the actual flooring, and in your case with making a video takes even longer. Well done though, I applaud your patience and thoroughness. 👏👍🇨🇦
on some steps when you remove the carpet the step overhangs about 3/4 of a inch you would have to cut that flush against the riser i start at the bottom step riser first then stair nose if its a click together then i click my step piece then a rip piece depending on the depth of the step which most cases you will need a piece then my next riser sits on top of the step i just installed so you dont have a gap and gives it a clean look i apply some pressure on my riser so theres no gap were the step and riser meet.i start at the bottom and work my way up. the stair nose piece for this product sits on top of the step but the install of steps is the same except for the stair nosing install.with this product i would glue the stairnose after all the steps are done i would have all my pieces cut and numbered and glue them down from top step to bottom and put a barrier at the top of the steps and bottom so nobody walks on them. to keep my steps from moving as i work my way up i use my brad nailer and put some brads on my step were the stair nosing covers it and at the top of my risers also were the stairnose covers it.
I made a sample with pvc flooring, used a heater to remove paint i used it to bend it flooring. Worked good just heat the backside more then frontside so you wont do damage to the texture.
The nosing should not have been placed overtop of the tread. Due to no mechanical fastener being utilized, over time the heavy traffic nosing gets this will be knocked off. Had the surface of the vinyl that the nosing was glued to been sanded, it may stand up a bit longer however the proper way would have been to install the wood nosing with counter sunk screws, then glue the nosing on fully to that. Once vinyl nosing is dry, glue treads with a 1/8" v notch trowel or a 5 prong nozzle on a construction adhesive tube. Overall, I would say this is a great job and this guy does know what he is doing for sure, I just always look at durability. I have done walls, counters (non food), electric fireplace surrounds, stairs, etc. With vinyl. I will even take a sheet of vinyl or 1/8" veneer stained to match and router out the stringers. I have never used the nosing either. Typically I go full tread and put my table saw blade on a 45 degree mitre and when installing I will use 1/16" tile spacers and later tape everywhere and apply silicone (need to tape for perfect crisp line). Does a really nice job and well, silicone is a construction adhesive of its own.
Nice I did flooring for a few years a few years ago. I never did the stairs kind of regret not doing so. I think I can give it a good honest go after this video
My only apprehension on applying vinyl planks on my stairs is the slipperiness factor. There are times where I have had one foot slip on my carpeted stairs and I catch myself on the handrail. What more slickness with vinyl. I am getting up in my later years and I cannot afford a big fall, unlike when I was younger. I do prefer the looks of vinyl planks over carpet. Thank you for the video.
FYI, I installed this type of flooring on stairs as well. The flooring was available with and without the foam backing and so I was able to use flooring adhesive and trowel. I was just curious if you thought of asking if it was available (in your area) without the backing. Before I started this job, I just assumed they all came (now) with attached backing. The brand was Toucan btw.
This flooring was ordered by the home owner a couple years ago when they did the entire basement , these are just some planks left over from that project . If you can order it without the foam that would have worked well.
Great video and very well explained! Thanks so much for that. I'm planning on doing some stairs that lead to the basement so this will help greatly. Much appreciated!!
I like to caulk the gap in the 90°s with gray, white, or brown caulk to help hide it. It goes the extra mile and doesn't look tacky. Sometimes I'll get lucky and find 90° trim profiles that match the flooring style just for the stair joints.. All depends on depends on the brand and the budget.
The liquid nails I bought says it works on foam board. Isn't the backing a type of foam? Is it absolutely necessary to remove it? Seems like the hardest part of my project so far 😃
Thank you Shannon again Im learning from you , Im retired and updating my house and would have made mistakes along the way that would have ticked me off your instructional videos prevented that. would have loved to work with you. thank you
I use a Thompson Stair Jig(s) made of metal marked left & right with a 1x3 scrap to run them on. Their cheap and I charge $65 an hour so it’s not a money maker to spend time making those? PL expands slightly and will raise up the tread and riser slight and more so the more you use? I never heard of the gasing off method? But learn something everyday! I am a contractor (finish & cabinets) ? I see multiple comments about DIY’ers wanting to run out and do their stairs? Word of Caution: stairs , landings, and rails are some of thee most complicated building project a carpenter can do (finish). The hard part is done figuring the rise/ run and min’s calculations however when changing materials you may need to re-sheet your stairs to make them dead flat for a good look and adhesion ! That may change your min’s on rise/run! Causing a code issue if your selling your home and it’s inspected by new buyer’s ? Which bringing it back into code might cost!!!!!
Nice job. It looks great, but I'm not sure I like the lip on the treads. Have you ever considered bending the piece of vinyl on the tread by using a heat gun to form the nose? That way you get a nice neat seamless finish.
Perfect, I have some left over LVP from our basement project. I'm curious could you use a nosing under the LVP like you would use for tile or would that be a bad idea?
Nice jig, we haven’t got that in uk yet but definitely will make one after seeing this vid, just finished fitting some porcelanos herringbone lvp on stairs for a customer. Took so long and I don’t think it looked good. Herringbone doesn’t belong on stairs! But customer knows best I suppose. We used nosings from a company in uk called stairrods quality was amazing but you gotta skin the lvp. Check em out pricey but proper job! Seriously good video. You gave a professional a few pointers thanks!
that jig is FIRE! do most manufacturers make matching bullnose stair treads? I'm using pergo if that matters? what do you do for stair treads where the left and right sides are visible???
ive been watching your videos for years now and since day 1 you've always made content that I actually find helpful and also like the way you always lower the volume on those loud tools keeps up the great work looking forward to seeing the finished product
Many thanks! Well done. Unfortunately, I do have a question. Would you glue the very first "nose plank" which leads into the stairs and basically is still part of the floating floor on the upper level?
This looks beautiful and I am by no means as good as you at installing flooring but I can hold my own. This type of flooring is slick and is in my opinion a fall hazzard.
Our stairs were originally carpeted then had laminate on them. We are now laying down vinyl plank. Could you recommend some options for addressing stringers that are rough & made from crappy wood? We were considering painting them which I assume would require wood filler and alot of sanding first. Alternatively we considered covering them up which might be too complicated for us DIYers. If we do go that route, what would you recommend we use if not the vinyl plank.. a thin melamine or masonite? I didn’t find any video covering this or did I just miss it? Thanks so much for your videos..everything is so well explained!
If you want to paint I would recommend a slight bit of sand in the paint to give some grip. Painted stairs in stocking feet can be very slippery. As for prep work you can wood fill and sand or cover with thin smooth material like you suggested, before painting
How did you deal with the skirt boards ? A video about all the preparation work would be useful as I found out it's really where things take time to figure things out.
That so much depends on the existing stairs and the flooring details you are going with. Our forum is a good place to discuss things like that with me.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thanks for an excellent video Shannon. I just like other people really enjoy your video. 👍 I just have an idea instead of SKIP steps for walking up/down because you can't finish the job in a day, measure lengths of all steps and mark them and then cut them in 1 day then next day you install and glue them. 🤔
You have a new subscriber sir. I love the way you calmly and simply explain each step. My one question is what wood did you get to fit inside the nosing and how did you make that perfectly rounded cut to fit?
Hi Shannon, enjoyed this video! Question: there are supposedly pros and cons to using VP for stairs- are there any cons that you recommend paying close attention to? I’m considering doing this on a set of unfinished basement stairs. Thank you
Thank you for your video. It was very helpful to see how to do it properly. To finish the sides would you have caulked along the stringer? Obviously you’ve used full planks on the stairs, does that mean you don’t recommend cutting shorter pieces?
I have a follow up video you may like .ua-cam.com/video/09Caxw4ym3c/v-deo.html Short pieces are ok. I just was dealing with all full pieces because there was not much waste.
Only one question for you. With that being vinyl and we all understand that vinyl expands and contracts with temperature change. Have you had, in your experience, any issues with the popping of the pieces due to them being cut and installed to the exact fit?
Funny how this vid just showed up. I was searching Lowes for bullnose pieces so I can do my stairs. I think using the bullnose will help with steps not being so slippery.
Very informative. Love the jig you made. Could the nosing have been installed so that it butted up against the tread piece or did they have different profiles? I guess with the nosing sitting atop the tread there is a slight lip edge that runs along each tread now?
Excellent video and beautiful work! Quick question - I had a contractor finish my stairs with vinyl planks. He used quarter round on the left and right edges of both the riser and tread planks and candidly it looks awful. He stated that the recommendation with vinly planks was to leave a 1/4" gap to account for expansion, and that without it the stairs could buckle with varying temperatures. That makes sense - I guess - but I don't see many, if any, stairs finished that way and you certainly aren't doing it that way. Should I be worried about that? Was this just a poor installation? Thanks!!
Shannon, you're honestly a national treasure. The amount of people you help with your videos, and the HouseImprovements forum is incredible.
Your videos are so informative because you don't only show 'what' you are doing, but you explain your thinking about 'why' you're making the decisions you've made about your process. Obviously, every home DIY project is going to have some variations compared to the one you're demonstrating with, but if we understand why certain steps are done then we can make adjustments to our own process confidently.
this guy's far and away my favorite. He doesn't feel the need to be goofy or entertaining... no nonsense...love it
Amen. These are the guys we need more of on UA-cam. No more hype men, please.
Completely agree! Have been watching his videos for years and grateful to find this video right now. He’s the best, I think.
Shannon is a girls name
I jumped on UA-cam to find out how to measure up tread accurately before cutting and I found the solution in your jig. It will be the cause of my neighbours wondering why my swearing has stopped. Thanks for posting.
The jig is brilliant. I’m definitely going to use that when I do my basement stairs. Corners come ut really good. Always professional, clear and concise.
Thank you Shannon
What’s the name of that jig ?
Once again I tuned into your channel to see if I could get a problem resolved. As usual, you came through again. Thanks. Everyone I talked to who “does” vinyl flooring said there’s no way to do stairs cleanly. They won’t take vinyl jobs with stairs. Once again I’m a cut above the competition because of your in depth tutorial videos. You better not retire from sharing your experience on University of UA-cam. 👍👍
Glad to help
Doing vinyl plank cleanly on stairs is pretty easy, so I wouldn't let any of those guys you talked to ever touch flooring in my house 😂
You are a great teacher, Shannon. If I had a shop teacher like you decades ago I wouldn't be as technically challenged as I am. I found you by accident but shall be back again! Thank you.
Always very informative.
I've been looking at redoing my main staircase and vinyl plank may be the answer over more traditional thicker boards or having to rip out the existing steps. Since its so thin, you really don't have to worry about changing the riser/step height and make the "feel" odd or way out of the normal 8" it typically is. Less than 1/4" will not be noticed.
I love how you mention that other people might want to do it other ways based on their personal preference. Well made videos!
Your videos provide a wealth of information by not just demonstrating the "what" of your actions, but also delving into the "why" behind the decisions shaping your process. While each home DIY project may exhibit unique deviations from the one showcased, comprehending the rationale behind specific steps empowers us to confidently adapt and fine-tune our own approach.
All components of the video was excellent. The dowel in the nose piece was really smart, something most people wouldn't think of. Thanks
I wondered how the nose would work with just the vinyl piece. Wonder no more!
It’s best to put the riser piece on top of the tread. That will give you a nice straight board edge to lay on top as well as keep the dust, dirt and grime from getting down in the gaps after everything settles. Looks good though sir👍
Looks really nice. I like the idea of the jig. It can come in handy with so much more then stairs.
Definitely!
@Repent or you will likewise perish. 😂😂😂😂😂
This is an awesome video, using the jig really helps too for uneven walls or slight variances in tread length to fill in those gaps. Thanks Shannon.
Thank you for doing this video, I’ve wanted to do the same to our stairs for quite sometime but wasn’t sure how to proceed and also get the proper nose edge. I do worry that the stairs will be slippery but the nose seem to look as though it would help keep someone on socks from slipping. Great job
I want to do that on my stairs aswell but little worried about slipping specially with socks so 🤔 still thinking .
I think I prefer the heating and bending jig for the nose but that forces you to the wider planks. I am concerned about slipping for my project too. I suppose you could route out a few very shallow grooves on the treads, but not sure how that would look, and I expect it voids the material warranty. I’d hope the manufactures would offer stair tread with nose and slip solution. Your cutting jig is a great idea.
Wow this couldn't have popped up at a better time. About to install some LVP and I have a couple stairs to do. Thanks again for the great content!
Glad I could help
Glad to see you back
We already did our basement floor with vinyl planks and we're ready to tackle the stairs. Great video!
Great video! I’m doing a remodel for a client and we can’t get a flooring company out to our job site. I now feel confident I can do the stairs myself, so thank you!
Excellent application of carpentry knowledge and skill...as a journey carpenter since 1981 I learned something here....keep learning....keep teaching what you know.....
Cool, thanks!
Excellent videos, Shannon! I'm a retired carpenter, and I can assure people that not only do you thoroughly explain and show every step, you know what you're talking about and, most importantly, you do things the right way with no shortcuts.
Wow, thank you!
Can't go wrong with PL! 👍🏼 Glad to finally see how that new stair jig you made is used, very clever
Shannon, I used your video of installing hardwood flooring on stairs as a guide for my own house. It turned out great. I may use this method to install LVP for my stairs going to the basement.
Wonderful!
Love that jig! Great idea! Not only get the angles but the length you can just directly transfer.
It makes cutting the stair treads a breeze!
Looks Great Shannon, glad I found you today. I want to replace the carpet in my room above the garage and did not have a plan for the carpet on the stairs. This video will help me to solve the problem. Thank you
Thanks Shannon. This is the exactly what I need. Almost looks like the same half staircase down to my basement. I've already ripped up the old carpet and I'm using LVP for the flooring, so I need to replace with the LVP risers and treads. I had no idea how to do the bullnosing, so this video is perfect for my use case. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful!
This guy goes above and beyond what most guys would do 👍🏼
Just got the floor jig because of your video, didn’t know they existed been doing this 12 years. I found it to be much less time consuming to quickly trace and cut on the table saw with miter gauge for the butts instead of a razor blade.
Absolutely brilliant! Very proud of you, gives me huge ideas on my next project. From the United Kingdom xx
It’s always fun to listen to you. You explain everything so calm and good to listen to
I just watched an English dude make a jig for the nose and form a piece of vinyl with a heat gun and some clamps. It worked pretty slick. He did all the treads first.
I was thinking the exact same thing because I watched it too. I would rather match the existing floor 100% with his method. But I will say Shannon's turned out Damn good as well. I bet that sucked scraping all that foam off.
Can you guys send me that link to the video ? Anyone have material list
Will you share the link? Thanks
Is there a channel to go to on that
What's up with the link to that?
To avoid using a table saw to rip narrow peices (down to about 1/4") I use wide mouth pliers such as welding pliers or flashing pliers work fine.
So score first then snap with pliers? Good idea.
@@HouseImprovements yes.
Yea try scoring it with a knife and then breaking it off by hand when the cut piece is that small, sometimes that floor is very sharp you'll slice your hand on it, won't want to do that again after haha.
By far the best home improvements videos on the internet!
Thank you
I always found stairs take longer to install than the actual flooring, and in your case with making a video takes even longer. Well done though, I applaud your patience and thoroughness. 👏👍🇨🇦
Thanks Shannon...I can always count on you when I'm in a bind.
on some steps when you remove the carpet the step overhangs about 3/4 of a inch you would have to cut that flush against the riser i start at the bottom step riser first then stair nose if its a click together then i click my step piece then a rip piece depending on the depth of the step which most cases you will need a piece then my next riser sits on top of the step i just installed so you dont have a gap and gives it a clean look i apply some pressure on my riser so theres no gap were the step and riser meet.i start at the bottom and work my way up. the stair nose piece for this product sits on top of the step but the install of steps is the same except for the stair nosing install.with this product i would glue the stairnose after all the steps are done i would have all my pieces cut and numbered and glue them down from top step to bottom and put a barrier at the top of the steps and bottom so nobody walks on them. to keep my steps from moving as i work my way up i use my brad nailer and put some brads on my step were the stair nosing covers it and at the top of my risers also were the stairnose covers it.
Oscillating tool with a scraper blade is great for getting the foam backing off.
Thank you for this one. My first time here today, and though I don’t need this right now, my daughter does…no stairs, but still highly informative.
Great video. Wish I would have found this a while back, but better late than never. I’m definitely making that jig. Thanks!!
I made a sample with pvc flooring, used a heater to remove paint i used it to bend it flooring.
Worked good just heat the backside more then frontside so you wont do damage to the texture.
Thanks, this looks pretty easy to DIY. Very helpful!
Quick ques - if I don't want to put the riser on as a laminate, what about your approach changes?
Thank you. This process was such a mystery before, now I feel ready to install.
The nosing should not have been placed overtop of the tread. Due to no mechanical fastener being utilized, over time the heavy traffic nosing gets this will be knocked off. Had the surface of the vinyl that the nosing was glued to been sanded, it may stand up a bit longer however the proper way would have been to install the wood nosing with counter sunk screws, then glue the nosing on fully to that. Once vinyl nosing is dry, glue treads with a 1/8" v notch trowel or a 5 prong nozzle on a construction adhesive tube. Overall, I would say this is a great job and this guy does know what he is doing for sure, I just always look at durability. I have done walls, counters (non food), electric fireplace surrounds, stairs, etc. With vinyl. I will even take a sheet of vinyl or 1/8" veneer stained to match and router out the stringers.
I have never used the nosing either. Typically I go full tread and put my table saw blade on a 45 degree mitre and when installing I will use 1/16" tile spacers and later tape everywhere and apply silicone (need to tape for perfect crisp line). Does a really nice job and well, silicone is a construction adhesive of its own.
23:30 mark I talk about what to sand to prep for fastening
I use a 2-1/2 in. blade with the oscillating tool to remove the padding. Works great and very fast.
Great idea
Thank you for the instructions. You made it look so easy. This could be my next home project.
Don’t use that liquid nails glue, one of the cheapest and worst glues. I advise you use Bostik glue buckets
Yes any stair work the gig is great alot of old stairs are not so square or plumb so u have to take in mind of the finish product results
A luminant cutter works better than a utility knife Shane. Easier and it's carbide. Thank you for the great videos Mr. 🙂
Nice I did flooring for a few years a few years ago. I never did the stairs kind of regret not doing so. I think I can give it a good honest go after this video
My only apprehension on applying vinyl planks on my stairs is the slipperiness factor. There are times where I have had one foot slip on my carpeted stairs and I catch myself on the handrail. What more slickness with vinyl. I am getting up in my later years and I cannot afford a big fall, unlike when I was younger. I do prefer the looks of vinyl planks over carpet. Thank you for the video.
Look for a vinyl with more texture. ua-cam.com/video/09Caxw4ym3c/v-deo.html
Sir, I've done that too and routed out a V-shaped couch out on the bottom where the 90 going down from shep
Very nice demo, thanks appreciate. Also the jig is an excellent method of fitting everything together tightly. Thanks
FYI, I installed this type of flooring on stairs as well. The flooring was available with and without the foam backing and so I was able to use flooring adhesive and trowel. I was just curious if you thought of asking if it was available (in your area) without the backing. Before I started this job, I just assumed they all came (now) with attached backing. The brand was Toucan btw.
This flooring was ordered by the home owner a couple years ago when they did the entire basement , these are just some planks left over from that project . If you can order it without the foam that would have worked well.
Great video and very well explained! Thanks so much for that. I'm planning on doing some stairs that lead to the basement so this will help greatly. Much appreciated!!
Glad it was helpful!
I like to caulk the gap in the 90°s with gray, white, or brown caulk to help hide it. It goes the extra mile and doesn't look tacky. Sometimes I'll get lucky and find 90° trim profiles that match the flooring style just for the stair joints.. All depends on depends on the brand and the budget.
The liquid nails I bought says it works on foam board. Isn't the backing a type of foam? Is it absolutely necessary to remove it? Seems like the hardest part of my project so far 😃
This is my question too. I’m hoping to avoid removing the attached underlayment!
Thank you Shannon again Im learning from you , Im retired and updating my house and would have made mistakes along the way that would have ticked me off your instructional videos prevented that. would have loved to work with you. thank you
Colored caulking will fix that I've done this with regular laminate but I boxed it in with corner trim came out real nice
Nice video very informative (and at a perfect time, 1st time home owner here)
You're gonna like this channel :)
I use a Thompson Stair Jig(s) made of metal marked left & right with a 1x3 scrap to run them on. Their cheap and I charge $65 an hour so it’s not a money maker to spend time making those?
PL expands slightly and will raise up the tread and riser slight and more so the more you use?
I never heard of the gasing off method? But learn something everyday!
I am a contractor (finish & cabinets) ? I see multiple comments about DIY’ers wanting to run out and do their stairs?
Word of Caution: stairs , landings, and rails are some of thee most complicated building project a carpenter can do (finish). The hard part is done figuring the rise/ run and min’s calculations however when changing materials you may need to re-sheet your stairs to make them dead flat for a good look and adhesion !
That may change your min’s on rise/run!
Causing a code issue if your selling your home and it’s inspected by new buyer’s ?
Which bringing it back into code might cost!!!!!
Definitely saving this for when I do my steps in the near future.
When you replace the wood should it be 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch thick plywood?
Nice job. It looks great, but I'm not sure I like the lip on the treads. Have you ever considered bending the piece of vinyl on the tread by using a heat gun to form the nose? That way you get a nice neat seamless finish.
I have never tried that but see some people have done that.
Shannon is the best on the details
So very helpful! We plan on doing exactly what you said next week! Hello from Minnesota. =)
The measuring jig is a fantastic idea.
Thanks for this video! We installed a floor, got to the top of the stairs and then went…oh no! Lol hopefully this video helps us!
Perfect, I have some left over LVP from our basement project. I'm curious could you use a nosing under the LVP like you would use for tile or would that be a bad idea?
There are some available like that
Thanks for the video Shannon. I feel more confident doing my stairs soon
Nice jig, we haven’t got that in uk yet but definitely will make one after seeing this vid, just finished fitting some porcelanos herringbone lvp on stairs for a customer. Took so long and I don’t think it looked good. Herringbone doesn’t belong on stairs! But customer knows best I suppose. We used nosings from a company in uk called stairrods quality was amazing but you gotta skin the lvp. Check em out pricey but proper job! Seriously good video. You gave a professional a few pointers thanks!
that jig is FIRE! do most manufacturers make matching bullnose stair treads? I'm using pergo if that matters? what do you do for stair treads where the left and right sides are visible???
Some do and some are better than this now. This type would be tough to use if a side is open as well.
ive been watching your videos for years now and since day 1 you've always made content that I actually find helpful and also like the way you always lower the volume on those loud tools keeps up the great work looking forward to seeing the finished product
I appreciate that!
Many thanks! Well done. Unfortunately, I do have a question. Would you glue the very first "nose plank" which leads into the stairs and basically is still part of the floating floor on the upper level?
no.
This looks beautiful and I am by no means as good as you at installing flooring but I can hold my own. This type of flooring is slick and is in my opinion a fall hazzard.
Most vinyl plank flooring is actually not slippery like laminate flooring or hardwood flooring
Our stairs were originally carpeted then had laminate on them. We are now laying down vinyl plank. Could you recommend some options for addressing stringers that are rough & made from crappy wood? We were considering painting them which I assume would require wood filler and alot of sanding first. Alternatively we considered covering them up which might be too complicated for us DIYers. If we do go that route, what would you recommend we use if not the vinyl plank.. a thin melamine or masonite?
I didn’t find any video covering this or did I just miss it?
Thanks so much for your videos..everything is so well explained!
If you want to paint I would recommend a slight bit of sand in the paint to give some grip. Painted stairs in stocking feet can be very slippery.
As for prep work you can wood fill and sand or cover with thin smooth material like you suggested, before painting
if you do tread first you can sit riser on top. No gaps and match the color of vinyl with grout type caulk and caulk where tread meets riser
How did you deal with the skirt boards ? A video about all the preparation work would be useful as I found out it's really where things take time to figure things out.
That so much depends on the existing stairs and the flooring details you are going with. Our forum is a good place to discuss things like that with me.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thks you have explained it so well even a beginner’s can have a go.
Good information. My only question is, why not install the treads first?
You could, i prefer the riser first.
Thanks for an excellent video Shannon. I just like other people really enjoy your video. 👍
I just have an idea instead of SKIP steps for walking up/down because you can't finish the job in a day, measure lengths of all steps and mark them and then cut them in 1 day then next day you install and glue them. 🤔
You could .
Looks professionally done, beautiful.
I’m going to try this myself, thanks to your guidance.
That looks a lot better than I figured it would.
I have confidence to do this after watching the video, thanks
You have a new subscriber sir. I love the way you calmly and simply explain each step. My one question is what wood did you get to fit inside the nosing and how did you make that perfectly rounded cut to fit?
I just used a router with a 3/4" round over bit and routed the edge of some solid wood that was cut to size to fit the nosing.
Great Job ! I like that you talk as your installing :)
Nice job!! Going to floor stairs soon and this video is helping me a lot!! Thx for your tips.
I have a follow up you may like.ua-cam.com/video/09Caxw4ym3c/v-deo.html
Thank you for taking your time I learn something about vinyl plank steps
The best video on laminate floor.
Hi Shannon, enjoyed this video! Question: there are supposedly pros and cons to using VP for stairs- are there any cons that you recommend paying close attention to? I’m considering doing this on a set of unfinished basement stairs. Thank you
The biggest is being sure your VP choice is not too slippery. It needs some texture to be less slippery.
Listen here, crystal clear!!! Well put together video... Wow
Thank you for your video. It was very helpful to see how to do it properly. To finish the sides would you have caulked along the stringer? Obviously you’ve used full planks on the stairs, does that mean you don’t recommend cutting shorter pieces?
I have a follow up video you may like .ua-cam.com/video/09Caxw4ym3c/v-deo.html
Short pieces are ok. I just was dealing with all full pieces because there was not much waste.
Great Video!! Quick Question, should expansion be a concern?
On this small of pieces no. Acclimate the flooring to the room before hand and you will be fine.
Only one question for you. With that being vinyl and we all understand that vinyl expands and contracts with temperature change. Have you had, in your experience, any issues with the popping of the pieces due to them being cut and installed to the exact fit?
No usually these short lengths really don't change much. If they were in the sun maybe they would but not in this case.
Funny how this vid just showed up. I was searching Lowes for bullnose pieces so I can do my stairs. I think using the bullnose will help with steps not being so slippery.
This needs a follow-up video describing the accident that happens when the homeowners slide down those stairs.
Very informative. Love the jig you made. Could the nosing have been installed so that it butted up against the tread piece or did they have different profiles? I guess with the nosing sitting atop the tread there is a slight lip edge that runs along each tread now?
Slight edge yes. Maybe if you had everything just perfect it may be able to sit on the longer edge of the snap together edge of the flooring.
Seems like a possible trip issue on a stair way with a differing profile so close to the edge
Love that jig! Definitely gonna make one for the next few projects I have coming up.
Look for my jig building video
Shannon, thanks for making this video.
Very nice. Now I have to go check if I have enough leftover
Hi. Do you have a video on carpeting the treads and paneling on the risers please
Excellent video and beautiful work! Quick question - I had a contractor finish my stairs with vinyl planks. He used quarter round on the left and right edges of both the riser and tread planks and candidly it looks awful. He stated that the recommendation with vinly planks was to leave a 1/4" gap to account for expansion, and that without it the stairs could buckle with varying temperatures. That makes sense - I guess - but I don't see many, if any, stairs finished that way and you certainly aren't doing it that way. Should I be worried about that? Was this just a poor installation? Thanks!!
Short lengths of plan should not expand that much. These steps are still fine today.