I think you missed a big one. Jorge Soler to the Braves in 2021. He was a massive part in them winning the World Series. And they didn't give up anything to get him.
@@brandonroberson9807 For sure. Every move they made at that deadline was a big part of them winning. Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario all had huge postseasons. Joc helped beat the Brewers, Rosario was NLCS MVP, and Soler was World Series MVP. I've never seen anything like it.
@@chrissizemore8705 I don’t think we can consider Eddie or Adam a rental still important but Alex brought them back the next year the other 2 went else where
@@brandonroberson9807 You're right. I wouldn't consider Eddie a rental since he's still there. Duvall didn't stay around long. But rental or not, those 4 made such a tremendous difference, especially Joc and Soler. I'll never forget the goosebumps and surge of adrenaline I got when Soler hit that home run in game 6. It just sucked every bit of air out of Minute Maid Park.
I was waiting for 2015 royals rental legends in Ben Zobrist, who hit pretty much only doubles, and Johnny Cueto, who was a efficient workhorse In that postseason. I need a sequel
And then they proceeded to leave Johnny off the white house visit list. He definitely deserved to go since they wouldn't have won without him. He threw complete games and all during that postseason run.
the ultimate rental, Aroldis Chapman for the 2016 Cubs. Joe Maddon was pitching him nearly every game towards the end of the world series, he was gonna get every little bit out of that trade that ended up sending Gleyber Torres to the Yankees, all for Aroldis to go back to the yankees on a mega deal the next year.
My thoughts exactly. I am a lifelong Yankees fan but that postseason I think we were all Cubs fans. One of the best World Series I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. While I feel for the Indians and their fans, I feel like there were no losers that year. A postseason I will always remember as one of the best!
@@JasonThomasLionHeart That game 7 will probably always be one of the best nights of my life. I was a nervous wreck that entire game but my god what a game it was.
Incredible how amazing Will Clark did in 2000 with the Cardinals. Mac was having a sensational 2000 season before the injury (maybe at that pace the best hitting season of his career), but his knees gave out. Clark stepped up better than anyone could have imagined.
Not only is Octavio Dotel an immaculate grid legend but he also locked down the 8th inning for the Astros by striking out 4 batters in his only inning of work of a 6 pitcher no-hitter in 2003 against the Yankees
29 Homeruns and 65 RBIs in 62 games lmao. Do people understand how ridiculous that is? That's a full seasons pace of 75 Home Runs and 170 RBIS 😂😂😂😂😂😂wtf is that?
@@speakinfaxonly21 Against the depressed pitching staffs of the National League West in the most Division Loaded month of the season.....while call ups were in effect. I'm mostly kidding. With or without context it was great
Ugh. Cliff Lee the bane of my existence. Yankees got a good score during that trade line with Cubs legend Kerry Wood. He's always stuck with me all these years later.
Thanks for highlighting Will "The Thrill" Clark. I've long felt that Will Clark was under-rated, partially due to the fact that he stepped away from the game at age 36 to spend more time with his family. He easily could have stuck around a few more years to accumulate stats (like most players). If Fred McGriff is a Hall of Famer - and I believe he is - with a career WAR of 52.6 and a career OPS+ of 134, then Will Clark (56.5 career WAR and a career OPS+ of 137) should be, as well.
Not particularly. He was an 83 OPS+ guy playing at replacement level and was pretty ineffective in the ALCS. He had an okay WS to make up for it, but he basically rode a good team to his second ring rather than augmenting it. Genuinely one of the greatest players of all time, just not a great Jay.
JD is sneaky one of the best FA signings in recent history as well. The numbers he put up during his 5 years in Boston were amazing and he got his ring there AND was a 4x all star. One of the rare times where not a single penny was wasted on a big money contract.
David Price from the Tigers to Jays was one of the best rental trades. The Jays were about a 500 club, him, Tulo and other tradeline deals helped turn the club into division winners for the first time since 1985.
As a Dodger fan I must suggest Manny Ramirez in 2008 and Max Scherzer in 2021 Manny Ramirez's stats after the trade: .396/.489/.743 with a OPS of 1.232, OPS+ of 221, 17 HRs, and 53 RBIs all in 53 games. He finished 4th in the NL MVP race, and the Dodgers only gave up Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris in a three team deal. Max Scherzer's stats after the trade: 7-0, 1.98 ERA, 1.96 FIP, 214 ERA+, .820 WHIP, 89 Ks, and only 8 walks in 11 starts (Dodgers won each of his starts). The Dodgers gave up catcher Keibert Ruiz, starter Josiah Gray, reliever Gerardo Carrillo, and outfielder Donovan Casey. This was a bigger package than what they gave for Manny, but the Dodgers also got one year and a half of Trea Turner in that deal.
Being a top 4 mvp after being traded to a new league in only 53 games is insane. Only 1 percentage point from being a top 3 mvp Ryan Braun was barely ahead of him.
One from 2016. The Cubs wanted to get something to add their piece of the 2016 World Series, making a trade for Aroldis Chapman for Gleyber Torres. After the deadline, Chapman won a World Series but didn’t stay with the cubs. So he was kind of a rental player.
Happ is a good example of how the pirates, during that era, were great at developing reclamation projects, even if they couldn’t develop young pitching well. Happ, AJ Burnett, Ivan Nova, Jason Grilli, Francisco Liriano, etc. I always saw this as an interesting trend.
As soon as Tex came up I was like “bring up Trout bring up Trout” and I’m so glad you did. Being an Angels fan is pretty painful but that whole sequence of events is so fun to look back on,
That Beltran run was something to see. I was a fan of Beltran when he was with KC so seeing him with a contender was good to see. I don't think i ever seen a playoff run as good as Beltran in 04. Also hated him going to the Mets, I'm a Yankee fan born and raised.
The first one you mentioned pisses me the hell off. Carlos Beltran saved the Astros’ reputation the first time he came there, and then irreparably broke it the second time. As an Astros fan, he remains the only member of the 2017 team that I still have contempt for. Enjoy the HOF plaque Mets fans.
JV to Houston 2017, a perfect 5-0 in September, ALCS MVP, a ring. Following offseason he signed for 2 more years then 1 more later, resulting in 2 more Cy Young awards, 2 more no hitters, his first 300K season, and a second ring in 4 WS appearances with the Astros before he moved on.
The Blue Jays in the 90s glory days had a couple of these - David Cone in 1992 who was their #2 starter in the playoffs, and Rickey Henderson in 1993 became their leadoff hitter - as the Jays won the Series both years. Cone was traded for Jeff Kent who went on to be really good, but flags fly forever.
Carlos Beltran to Houston in 2004. World of difference he made to that team. From wiki: "In the 2004 playoffs, Beltrán tied Barry Bonds' single post-season record with eight home runs. He hit one in each of the first four games of the National League Championship Series (NLCS) against the St. Louis Cardinals, including the game-winner in Game 4. He hit two home runs in Game 5 of the previous playoff round in the National League Division Series (NLDS) against the Atlanta Braves; it was the first time Beltran or the Astros had won a postseason series and his performance was the first time that an Astro had hit two home runs in a postseason game. In total, Beltrán clubbed at least one home run in a record-setting five consecutive postseason games,[23] outnumbered only by Daniel Murphy's home runs in six consecutive postseason games in 2015.[24] In 12 games in the 2004 playoffs, Beltrán batted .435 with 14 RBIs and 21 runs scored.[25]"
Doyle Alexander 1987 from Atlanta to Detroit for the young John Smoltz. Alexanders numbers: 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA to propel the Tigers to the division title.
2019 Nick Castellanos to the Cubs. He hit more home runs in 50 games with the Cubs than he did in 100 games with the Tigers, and all thw Cubs gave up was Alex Lange, and another name that hasn't made the big leagues, and is still in A ball 4 years later at 26 years old
Apparently the Red Sox were also making a push for Beltran in 04 as well. Supposedly the Red Sox offered Kevin Youkilis and Kelly Shoppach to KC, but they decided to go with the Houston deal instead.
Honestly, Hank Borowy in 1945 deserves a mention. 11-2 with a 2.13 era in 1945 for the cubs after I think being claimed on waivers. I realize this only goes back so far, but I think he deserves a mentio
Cliff Lee deserves a mention when he was traded from Cleveland to Philly. He had a good not great remainder of the regular season for the Phils, but he was untouchable in the postseason for them through the world series.
MARCO SCUTARO. How can you miss that one. He literally got 2 hits every game after getting traded to the Giants. Got NLCS MVP and got the game winning hit in the WS that same year🤯🤯
To this day, that JD Martinez deal still really puzzles me. What the heck were the Tigers thinking trading for that return? Even at the time, none of those players looked particularly great on paper, and what do you know, they all ended up sucking. Just an absolute waste of a prime trade chip when they surely could have gotten a serious haul for him from a different team (or even just squeezed the D-Backs for more).
I understand the idea of the video is to find rental trades that helped playoff teams but the Pirates traded rental, Tony Watson, to the LAD for Oneil Cruz.
Jolly! Awesome stuff per usual. How about a video about Jim Edmonds?? Ignoring his disastrous tenure as a Cardinals broadcaster (don't even get me started on that) he was one of the clutchest players of the early to mid-2000s, and an absolutely incredible defensive center fielder. With Scott Rolen getting into the hall the year, it got me thinking that Edmonds may have a case as well.
Shocked that Marco Scutaro in 2012 wasn’t here. Forgot the exact number but Scutaro was hitting above .400 after being shipped to SF, won NLCS MVP in a 1-3 comeback against the cards and won the World Series.
Great video, Jolly. I'm a new baseball fan so rental trades is still something I'm understanding but seeing all these examples makes it easier for me to understand why teams trade guys that they probably won't keep in order to make a run. Again, great video dude.
Tigers trade production: 2015 Cespedes traded to Mets .287 17HRs 44 RBIs in 57 games 2017 JD Martinez traded to Diamondbacks .302 29 HRs 65 RBIs in 62 games 2019 Castellanos traded to Cubs .321 16 HRs 36 RBIs in 51 games 2015 David Price traded to Blue Jays 9-1 2.30 ERA in 11 games 2017 Justin Verlander trades to Astros 5-0 1.06 ERA in 5 games (wins WS)
Kyle Schwarber to the Red Sox .957 OPS to end the second half for a guy who pitched seven innings in rookie ball for the nationals and was never seen again
And I will always say that was a mistake on Oakland's part. Taking him out of the lineup meant that teams could pitch around Donaldson and led to the offense collapsing and almost costing them a playoff spot.
Love you Jolly, but it is criminal not to have Chapman to the Cubs in 2016 on this list. Singlehandedly carried the bullpen during the second half and all of the postseason, yes they gave up Gleyber but the team never would have broken the drought without him.
Kenny Lofton (along with Aramis Ramirez) to the Cubs in 2003. An excellent rental especially after losing Corey Patterson to injury while he was having a breakout season.
Rental trades aren't really about getting equivalent value back. The psychology of it is, "We want to win right now, this other team has a player who can help us do it, these players (usually prospects) who we are giving up are far, far away from helping us win right now, so we acknowledge that we might be giving up too much on a player-to-player calculation, but the less predictable/calculable value brought back by a WS Championship or even just a deep playoff run makes up for the difference." When you make a video like this in the mindset that a rental trade that brings a playoff contender a lights out reliever is made just average or "arguably even bad" by the fact that the other team was given a future reliable starter signals that you don't quite understand how these trades work. That said, there is such a thing as a bad rental trade. If off-season moves still fit your criteria, then as a Twins fan, the Pierzynski deal comes to my mind immediately. We fleeced SF there and got one of the all time greatest relievers and a SP who at various times was a stalwart in our rotation plus one more small piece in Bonser and gave up one year of average play from Pierzynski (plus more than a year's worth of clubhouse drama) to accomplish it.
The Beltran rental also introduced Beltran to the Astros organization where he would later implement the sign stealing techniques used to cheat the 2017 World Series among other important playoff games. The butterfly effect is real.
What about...Oakland Athletics acquire OF Matt Holliday; Colorado Rockies acquire OF Carlos Gonzalez, RHP Huston Street and LHP Greg Smith. Or Cliff Lee to Rangers or Mariners.
I would 100% do the Rodriguez for Miller trade again. No way should that be considered possibly bad. Orioles hadn't been to an ALCS since 1996. They don't get there without Andrew Miller.
Cecil Fielder to the Yankees in 1996 deserves a mention as well. While the team had to readjust their offense to fit him in which led to their second half struggle until toward the end of summer but with how the guy have been hitting with them especially throughout the postseason, they may not have made it past Texas without him.
Haap’s fortunes changed because he went from the AL to the NL. Period. No DH. Completely different game. Not only No DH but a Pitcher where an AL team has their DH. It’s exponential. It adds up to over a run on your ERA in most cases. He didn’t suddenly get better the competition got worse and less capable of scoring runs
Those 2 Teixeira trades were awful for Atlanta. Gm Schuerholtz really lost his touch in his later years running the show (partly bc Atlanta's payroll wasn't top 3 in baseball anymore by that point)
The fact that the Angels got the Trout pick as compensation from the Yanks and still had another comp pick to use on Tyler Skaggs from the same deal is exactly why the old qualifying offer system was bullshit
so good to see will clark in this one. was hoping you would talk about him when i saw the title. he has a case for cooperstown now (unfortunate that his first ballot was JUST under the required % to be featured on future ballots) but if he had continued for another 5 or more years he would have been a shoe-in
Chapman to the cubs in 2016 is obviously but was even better of a “rental” imo was the cubs getting nick castellanos in 2019. Insane second half and was the sole reason we had even a chance at the pkayoffs that season
Most recent best one was Max Scherzer. ERA and FIP under 2 as a Dodger and solidified a rotation that lost Kershaw and went on to close out the Giants in the NLDS
Dave Winfield could of been Ohtani. look up his college pitcher numbers if you dont believe me. He. is the last guy to be drafted in the MLB, NBA and NFL
"We find out who's contending, who's pretending..." *shows the Phillies when saying "who's pretending"* Jack Olive, being a Phillies fan is already painful enough. I experience enough existential dread with this team, why do you gotta do this to me? All seriousness, another fantastic video as always. J.D. Martinez's 2017 run with the DBacks still blows my mind every time I look at his numbers.
In 62 games he hit 29 home runs. Lets not gloss over that. Thats a hr basically every other game. Thats a nearly 80hr season pace he kept for almost half a season. That's insane. Period.
Shohei Ohtani is 100% an upper echelon ballplayer, I doubt anyone could say otherwise with a straight face, but "the greatest player ever to pick up a baseball"? Come on, man.
The cardinals have also had a few good deadline rentals in the past few years where they give up almost nothing for decent pitchers who end up being great for them (Jon Lester, Jose Quintana, and JA Happ)
If you do decide to make a sequel to this, you should certainly include Cespedes to the Mets in 2015 and Kyle Schwarber to the Red Sox in 2021, as both teams likely would have missed the playoffs without those acquisitions
How about a 9-0 record in 11 starts, with a 1.53 ERA? Oh wait, they gave up Smoltz to get Doyle Alexander. But man, was Doyle good. (I seem to remember he was always good in the back end of the season, but he was 5-10 before the trade. How he rated Smoltz, I'm not sure, but give him credit for being dominant for a bit.
I think you missed a big one. Jorge Soler to the Braves in 2021. He was a massive part in them winning the World Series. And they didn't give up anything to get him.
Him and joc
@@brandonroberson9807 For sure. Every move they made at that deadline was a big part of them winning. Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario all had huge postseasons. Joc helped beat the Brewers, Rosario was NLCS MVP, and Soler was World Series MVP. I've never seen anything like it.
Jollys a Mets fan lol he ain’t gonna recognize that
@@chrissizemore8705 I don’t think we can consider Eddie or Adam a rental still important but Alex brought them back the next year the other 2 went else where
@@brandonroberson9807 You're right. I wouldn't consider Eddie a rental since he's still there. Duvall didn't stay around long. But rental or not, those 4 made such a tremendous difference, especially Joc and Soler. I'll never forget the goosebumps and surge of adrenaline I got when Soler hit that home run in game 6. It just sucked every bit of air out of Minute Maid Park.
I was waiting for 2015 royals rental legends in Ben Zobrist, who hit pretty much only doubles, and Johnny Cueto, who was a efficient workhorse In that postseason. I need a sequel
And then they proceeded to leave Johnny off the white house visit list. He definitely deserved to go since they wouldn't have won without him. He threw complete games and all during that postseason run.
He's a Mets fan, those trades live in his nightmares.
Yes but those outfielders of that year are so recent and obvious. Jolly is a man of history.
@@mikeel44 Jolly literally covered another 2015 deal my man
My guy, wrong reply thread. My bad 😂
the ultimate rental, Aroldis Chapman for the 2016 Cubs. Joe Maddon was pitching him nearly every game towards the end of the world series, he was gonna get every little bit out of that trade that ended up sending Gleyber Torres to the Yankees, all for Aroldis to go back to the yankees on a mega deal the next year.
My thoughts exactly. I am a lifelong Yankees fan but that postseason I think we were all Cubs fans. One of the best World Series I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. While I feel for the Indians and their fans, I feel like there were no losers that year. A postseason I will always remember as one of the best!
Chapman's arm was shot the first half of 2017 because of how much Maddon used him haha.
@@JasonThomasLionHeart That game 7 will probably always be one of the best nights of my life. I was a nervous wreck that entire game but my god what a game it was.
Incredible how amazing Will Clark did in 2000 with the Cardinals. Mac was having a sensational 2000 season before the injury (maybe at that pace the best hitting season of his career), but his knees gave out. Clark stepped up better than anyone could have imagined.
Not only is Octavio Dotel an immaculate grid legend but he also locked down the 8th inning for the Astros by striking out 4 batters in his only inning of work of a 6 pitcher no-hitter in 2003 against the Yankees
Dotel, Edwin Jackson, Rich Hill, Fernando Rodney and Bartolo Colon, all of my go-tos lol
@@Neckrollios18 Gotta remember those names for the future!
He also pitched Pujols when the “were” the same age lol
@@Neckrollios18 Don’t sleep on Ruben Sierra! (For immaculate grid)
@@BlacknWhiteBadger88 Then a couple years later they had Lidge, Dan Wheeler, and Chad Qualls.
That half season of JD Martinez was absolutely insane, the Dbacks probably wouldn’t have made the playoffs without him.
29 Homeruns and 65 RBIs in 62 games lmao. Do people understand how ridiculous that is? That's a full seasons pace of 75 Home Runs and 170 RBIS 😂😂😂😂😂😂wtf is that?
@@speakinfaxonly21
Against the depressed pitching staffs of the National League West in the most Division Loaded month of the season.....while call ups were in effect.
I'm mostly kidding. With or without context it was great
@@OH_MY_DOGGGits even hard to do that in MLB the Show 😭😭
Last time a player had 4 home runs in a game. Sep 4 2017 JD against the Dodgers
@@immaculatesquidnot really
2010 Cliff Lee to Texas. Helped them make the playoffs and was lights out dominant in the ALDS and ALCS getting them to the World Series.
agree that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw this video
He had a losing record for the Rangers lol 😂
Ugh. Cliff Lee the bane of my existence. Yankees got a good score during that trade line with Cubs legend Kerry Wood. He's always stuck with me all these years later.
Thanks for highlighting Will "The Thrill" Clark. I've long felt that Will Clark was under-rated, partially due to the fact that he stepped away from the game at age 36 to spend more time with his family. He easily could have stuck around a few more years to accumulate stats (like most players). If Fred McGriff is a Hall of Famer - and I believe he is - with a career WAR of 52.6 and a career OPS+ of 134, then Will Clark (56.5 career WAR and a career OPS+ of 137) should be, as well.
Mcgriff is better than Will IMO but both deserve to be in the HOF
Ricky Henderson to the Jays in 93' was a huge addition to an already elite line up.
Paul Molitor
@@jjay__ he and Dave Stewart combined made that team one of the greatest ever to take the field.
Not particularly. He was an 83 OPS+ guy playing at replacement level and was pretty ineffective in the ALCS. He had an okay WS to make up for it, but he basically rode a good team to his second ring rather than augmenting it.
Genuinely one of the greatest players of all time, just not a great Jay.
@@bmac4 very clutch hit in the 15-14 game 4
@@rileymcconnell4728 Why do you say that?
JD is sneaky one of the best FA signings in recent history as well. The numbers he put up during his 5 years in Boston were amazing and he got his ring there AND was a 4x all star. One of the rare times where not a single penny was wasted on a big money contract.
David Price from the Tigers to Jays was one of the best rental trades. The Jays were about a 500 club, him, Tulo and other tradeline deals helped turn the club into division winners for the first time since 1985.
2018 rental Steve Pearce although not the most electric post all star break, came in clutch in the World Series and won World Series MVP for it
As a Dodger fan I must suggest Manny Ramirez in 2008 and Max Scherzer in 2021
Manny Ramirez's stats after the trade:
.396/.489/.743 with a OPS of 1.232, OPS+ of 221, 17 HRs, and 53 RBIs all in 53 games. He finished 4th in the NL MVP race, and the Dodgers only gave up Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris in a three team deal.
Max Scherzer's stats after the trade:
7-0, 1.98 ERA, 1.96 FIP, 214 ERA+, .820 WHIP, 89 Ks, and only 8 walks in 11 starts (Dodgers won each of his starts). The Dodgers gave up catcher Keibert Ruiz, starter Josiah Gray, reliever Gerardo Carrillo, and outfielder Donovan Casey. This was a bigger package than what they gave for Manny, but the Dodgers also got one year and a half of Trea Turner in that deal.
Being a top 4 mvp after being traded to a new league in only 53 games is insane. Only 1 percentage point from being a top 3 mvp Ryan Braun was barely ahead of him.
One from 2016. The Cubs wanted to get something to add their piece of the 2016 World Series, making a trade for Aroldis Chapman for Gleyber Torres. After the deadline, Chapman won a World Series but didn’t stay with the cubs. So he was kind of a rental player.
Absolutely a rental, the fact that he’s not in this is ridiculous. Cubs don’t win the world series if Chapman isn’t on that team.
I’m about to saying this
Cubs could have won with any closer capable of a 3.50+ playoff era. He was a rental, but in no way someone the cubs needed in order to win.
@@taylorwrigley6174they gave up Torres that’s a big loss in prospect depth
No shot. This list is about giving up nothing and getting a lot in return. The Cubs giving up Gleyber Torres is a lot.
Happ is a good example of how the pirates, during that era, were great at developing reclamation projects, even if they couldn’t develop young pitching well. Happ, AJ Burnett, Ivan Nova, Jason Grilli, Francisco Liriano, etc. I always saw this as an interesting trend.
The Pirates are still good at doing that. Look at Rich Hill this season.
don't forget picking up Gerrit Cole
I think CC Sabathia was a rental trade going from Cleveland to Milwaukee. He was almost unhittable with his short time with the Brewers
Sabathia for sure. He snapped a 26 year postseason drought singlehandedly and, his stats with the Brewers in '08 are bonkers!!!
Even more interesting, is that the best part of the trade for Cleveland was the player-to-be-named-later they got in the trade: Michael Brantley.
As soon as Tex came up I was like “bring up Trout bring up Trout” and I’m so glad you did. Being an Angels fan is pretty painful but that whole sequence of events is so fun to look back on,
Yeah, we gotta find silver linings wherever we can.
That Beltran run was something to see. I was a fan of Beltran when he was with KC so seeing him with a contender was good to see. I don't think i ever seen a playoff run as good as Beltran in 04. Also hated him going to the Mets, I'm a Yankee fan born and raised.
The first one you mentioned pisses me the hell off. Carlos Beltran saved the Astros’ reputation the first time he came there, and then irreparably broke it the second time. As an Astros fan, he remains the only member of the 2017 team that I still have contempt for. Enjoy the HOF plaque Mets fans.
CC Sabathia was the most impressive dude ive ever seen in a snort span. Going on 3 days rest over and over and over. Dominating.
JV to Houston 2017, a perfect 5-0 in September, ALCS MVP, a ring. Following offseason he signed for 2 more years then 1 more later, resulting in 2 more Cy Young awards, 2 more no hitters, his first 300K season, and a second ring in 4 WS appearances with the Astros before he moved on.
Don’t forget that they traded 3 players with -.1 bwar
The Blue Jays in the 90s glory days had a couple of these - David Cone in 1992 who was their #2 starter in the playoffs, and Rickey Henderson in 1993 became their leadoff hitter - as the Jays won the Series both years. Cone was traded for Jeff Kent who went on to be really good, but flags fly forever.
as a die hard rockies fan calling us out for not knowing what the hell we’re doing is entirely accurate
Carlos Beltran to Houston in 2004. World of difference he made to that team. From wiki: "In the 2004 playoffs, Beltrán tied Barry Bonds' single post-season record with eight home runs. He hit one in each of the first four games of the National League Championship Series (NLCS) against the St. Louis Cardinals, including the game-winner in Game 4. He hit two home runs in Game 5 of the previous playoff round in the National League Division Series (NLDS) against the Atlanta Braves; it was the first time Beltran or the Astros had won a postseason series and his performance was the first time that an Astro had hit two home runs in a postseason game. In total, Beltrán clubbed at least one home run in a record-setting five consecutive postseason games,[23] outnumbered only by Daniel Murphy's home runs in six consecutive postseason games in 2015.[24] In 12 games in the 2004 playoffs, Beltrán batted .435 with 14 RBIs and 21 runs scored.[25]"
Doyle Alexander 1987 from Atlanta to Detroit for the young John Smoltz.
Alexanders numbers:
9-0 with a 1.53 ERA to propel the Tigers to the division title.
2019 Nick Castellanos to the Cubs. He hit more home runs in 50 games with the Cubs than he did in 100 games with the Tigers, and all thw Cubs gave up was Alex Lange, and another name that hasn't made the big leagues, and is still in A ball 4 years later at 26 years old
Apparently the Red Sox were also making a push for Beltran in 04 as well. Supposedly the Red Sox offered Kevin Youkilis and Kelly Shoppach to KC, but they decided to go with the Houston deal instead.
Honestly, Hank Borowy in 1945 deserves a mention.
11-2 with a 2.13 era in 1945 for the cubs after I think being claimed on waivers.
I realize this only goes back so far, but I think he deserves a mentio
Cliff Lee deserves a mention when he was traded from Cleveland to Philly. He had a good not great remainder of the regular season for the Phils, but he was untouchable in the postseason for them through the world series.
Peak Beltran was an absolute goon. Also one of the greatest MLB the show cards ever
MARCO SCUTARO. How can you miss that one. He literally got 2 hits every game after getting traded to the Giants. Got NLCS MVP and got the game winning hit in the WS that same year🤯🤯
2012 Marco Scutaro on the Giants, 2017 Jay Bruce for the Indians, Pederson/Duvall/Soler/Rosario for the Braves in 2021
To this day, that JD Martinez deal still really puzzles me. What the heck were the Tigers thinking trading for that return? Even at the time, none of those players looked particularly great on paper, and what do you know, they all ended up sucking. Just an absolute waste of a prime trade chip when they surely could have gotten a serious haul for him from a different team (or even just squeezed the D-Backs for more).
I understand the idea of the video is to find rental trades that helped playoff teams but the Pirates traded rental, Tony Watson, to the LAD for Oneil Cruz.
Jolly! Awesome stuff per usual. How about a video about Jim Edmonds?? Ignoring his disastrous tenure as a Cardinals broadcaster (don't even get me started on that) he was one of the clutchest players of the early to mid-2000s, and an absolutely incredible defensive center fielder. With Scott Rolen getting into the hall the year, it got me thinking that Edmonds may have a case as well.
Shocked that Marco Scutaro in 2012 wasn’t here. Forgot the exact number but Scutaro was hitting above .400 after being shipped to SF, won NLCS MVP in a 1-3 comeback against the cards and won the World Series.
Yeah, but Scutaro was garbage vs Cincinnati and Detroit.
In 2010 the Texas Rangers got Cliff Lee from the Seattle Mariners. He went 4-6 but had an ERA of 3.98 with 96 punchies and 2 complete games. Not bad
Great video, Jolly. I'm a new baseball fan so rental trades is still something I'm understanding but seeing all these examples makes it easier for me to understand why teams trade guys that they probably won't keep in order to make a run. Again, great video dude.
Glad I could help!
Tigers trade production:
2015 Cespedes traded to Mets
.287 17HRs 44 RBIs in 57 games
2017 JD Martinez traded to Diamondbacks
.302 29 HRs 65 RBIs in 62 games
2019 Castellanos traded to Cubs
.321 16 HRs 36 RBIs in 51 games
2015 David Price traded to Blue Jays
9-1 2.30 ERA in 11 games
2017 Justin Verlander trades to Astros
5-0 1.06 ERA in 5 games (wins WS)
Why do you these perform way better when they leave the Tigers?
Think one trade you missed was Andrew Miller to the Cleveland Indians/Guardians in 2016. He single-handedly got that team Game 7 of the World Series.
Kyle Schwarber to the Red Sox .957 OPS to end the second half for a guy who pitched seven innings in rookie ball for the nationals and was never seen again
I'd say Aroldis Chapman to the cubs for half of 2016 was really good, given the state of that Bullpen.
I want to say Lester for Cespedes in 2014 was as close to an example where both teams had a top rental player in the same trade as you will find
And I will always say that was a mistake on Oakland's part. Taking him out of the lineup meant that teams could pitch around Donaldson and led to the offense collapsing and almost costing them a playoff spot.
5:44 Angels did win 99 games in 2002, so lets bump it up to 100, since they also win it all that season
Love you Jolly, but it is criminal not to have Chapman to the Cubs in 2016 on this list. Singlehandedly carried the bullpen during the second half and all of the postseason, yes they gave up Gleyber but the team never would have broken the drought without him.
Steve Pearce 2018 Redsox… multi homer debut vs Yankees and World Series mvp
Kenny Lofton (along with Aramis Ramirez) to the Cubs in 2003. An excellent rental especially after losing Corey Patterson to injury while he was having a breakout season.
Cliff Lee to the Rangers in 2010. Led us to our first World Series and was lights out the first 2 rounds of the postseason.
Rental trades aren't really about getting equivalent value back. The psychology of it is, "We want to win right now, this other team has a player who can help us do it, these players (usually prospects) who we are giving up are far, far away from helping us win right now, so we acknowledge that we might be giving up too much on a player-to-player calculation, but the less predictable/calculable value brought back by a WS Championship or even just a deep playoff run makes up for the difference."
When you make a video like this in the mindset that a rental trade that brings a playoff contender a lights out reliever is made just average or "arguably even bad" by the fact that the other team was given a future reliable starter signals that you don't quite understand how these trades work.
That said, there is such a thing as a bad rental trade. If off-season moves still fit your criteria, then as a Twins fan, the Pierzynski deal comes to my mind immediately. We fleeced SF there and got one of the all time greatest relievers and a SP who at various times was a stalwart in our rotation plus one more small piece in Bonser and gave up one year of average play from Pierzynski (plus more than a year's worth of clubhouse drama) to accomplish it.
Joe Nathan?
The Beltran rental also introduced Beltran to the Astros organization where he would later implement the sign stealing techniques used to cheat the 2017 World Series among other important playoff games. The butterfly effect is real.
How in the world is CC Sabathia not on here? Dude single handedly took Brewers to the playoffs.
What about...Oakland Athletics acquire OF Matt Holliday; Colorado Rockies acquire OF Carlos Gonzalez, RHP Huston Street and LHP Greg Smith. Or Cliff Lee to Rangers or Mariners.
I would 100% do the Rodriguez for Miller trade again. No way should that be considered possibly bad. Orioles hadn't been to an ALCS since 1996. They don't get there without Andrew Miller.
As a Tigers fan that JD trade hurts even more considering Al Avila completely rushed it, moving JD like 2 weeks or so before the deadline
Avila was such a bad gm. I don’t think he won a trade. He got nothing for verlander or castellanos either.
Cecil Fielder to the Yankees in 1996 deserves a mention as well. While the team had to readjust their offense to fit him in which led to their second half struggle until toward the end of summer but with how the guy have been hitting with them especially throughout the postseason, they may not have made it past Texas without him.
Aroldis Chapman played a big role on the Cubs WS team in 2016
Mark Teixeira was a DEMON for the 2nd half of 08, rarely talked about love that you highlighted him
Rafael Furcal 2011 trade to the Cardinals was crucial
Haap’s fortunes changed because he went from the AL to the NL. Period. No DH. Completely different game. Not only No DH but a Pitcher where an AL team has their DH. It’s exponential. It adds up to over a run on your ERA in most cases. He didn’t suddenly get better the competition got worse and less capable of scoring runs
The goaaaat of the bip championship
Kerry wood had a .69 era for the Yankees in 24 games from the Indians for two players who never played
Jake Arrietta 😂🤣🤣 this video brought back so many players i forgot about
Those 2 Teixeira trades were awful for Atlanta. Gm Schuerholtz really lost his touch in his later years running the show (partly bc Atlanta's payroll wasn't top 3 in baseball anymore by that point)
The fact that the Angels got the Trout pick as compensation from the Yanks and still had another comp pick to use on Tyler Skaggs from the same deal is exactly why the old qualifying offer system was bullshit
I know you talked about it early but Randy Johnson was the greatest rental of all time and it isn’t close
Cannot believe you missed Cliff Lee for the 2010 Rangers. Masterclass in the playoffs en route to first world series
Rickey Henderson to Toronto in 1993 is always what I think of
Ben Zobrist and Johnny Cueto for the Royals in 2015
so good to see will clark in this one. was hoping you would talk about him when i saw the title. he has a case for cooperstown now (unfortunate that his first ballot was JUST under the required % to be featured on future ballots) but if he had continued for another 5 or more years he would have been a shoe-in
you got to do the best lost rental trades in baseball history.
A Mets fan would just not mention Zobrist to the Royals in 2015.
You gotta check out Larry Walker to the Cardinals in 2004. Great rental trade and he dominated for them in the playoffs.
aroldis chapman to the Cubs in 2016 helped carry them to the world series. That was a pretty big one. 4 prospects for the closer.
Chapman to the cubs in 2016 is obviously but was even better of a “rental” imo was the cubs getting nick castellanos in 2019. Insane second half and was the sole reason we had even a chance at the pkayoffs that season
Jolly loved the Will Clark cuts. I miss the old busch stadium! :)
Most recent best one was Max Scherzer. ERA and FIP under 2 as a Dodger and solidified a rotation that lost Kershaw and went on to close out the Giants in the NLDS
Dave Winfield could of been Ohtani. look up his college pitcher numbers if you dont believe me. He. is the last guy to be drafted in the MLB, NBA and NFL
Ok the strikeout call at 8:12 in the video is one of the worst calls I’ve ever senn
Really appreciate the effort on the videos and the topics have been cool keep it up fella
"We find out who's contending, who's pretending..."
*shows the Phillies when saying "who's pretending"*
Jack Olive, being a Phillies fan is already painful enough. I experience enough existential dread with this team, why do you gotta do this to me?
All seriousness, another fantastic video as always. J.D. Martinez's 2017 run with the DBacks still blows my mind every time I look at his numbers.
Holy crap I forgot Will Clark played for the Cardinals!
I remember watching Texeira play for my Angels when I was a kid! He was intimidating as all hell
In 62 games he hit 29 home runs. Lets not gloss over that. Thats a hr basically every other game. Thats a nearly 80hr season pace he kept for almost half a season. That's insane. Period.
If u got 2 super stars at 1 year left and u can only sign one do trade prospects and try to win it all or do you just trade them and rebuild
Cliff Lee to Texas, 2010.
I’m not sure anybody would argue the Andrew Miller trade was “bad”.
Shohei Ohtani is 100% an upper echelon ballplayer, I doubt anyone could say otherwise with a straight face, but "the greatest player ever to pick up a baseball"? Come on, man.
Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers Randy Johson to the Astros
Kevin Youkilis was awesome for the White Sox when it happened. He was the only good hitter on the team that 2nd half. Wish we kept him 😢
Everyone loves the big youk!
The cardinals have also had a few good deadline rentals in the past few years where they give up almost nothing for decent pitchers who end up being great for them (Jon Lester, Jose Quintana, and JA Happ)
good video idea. it always seems like we focus on the bad trades and never these good ones. nice job.
Best rentals aka the Braves 3 best players in the 2021 postseason
If you do decide to make a sequel to this, you should certainly include Cespedes to the Mets in 2015 and Kyle Schwarber to the Red Sox in 2021, as both teams likely would have missed the playoffs without those acquisitions
How about a 9-0 record in 11 starts, with a 1.53 ERA?
Oh wait, they gave up Smoltz to get Doyle Alexander. But man, was Doyle good. (I seem to remember he was always good in the back end of the season, but he was 5-10 before the trade. How he rated Smoltz, I'm not sure, but give him credit for being dominant for a bit.
Alexander was also great in the first half of 1988 and made the all star team as well. He fell off the second half of ‘88 and lost 18 games in ‘89.
I can’t wait for all the trades to start happening
Dawel Lugo and Sergio Alcantara tigers legends
I know you made a vid already, but as an Honorable Mention C.C. Sabathia back in '08 to the Brewers when he went Ohtani Mode as a Pitcher and Hitter.
Needs more Randy Johnson to the Astros
Number 1: Colin Holderman for Daniel Vogelbach
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