The Rise And Fall Of The MCU
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
- The Marvel Cinematic Universe has had plenty of highs and now a good amount of recent lows. Iron Man set a quality standard early on but now green screen films like Thor: Love & Thunder and Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania are taking things in a terrible new direction. The inclusion of a handful of Disney+ shows isn't helping things either. She-hulk, Loki, Wandavasion, Ms. Marvel and more just confuse things and most of them lack the same quality we've come to expect. Thankfully there is still hope on the horizon with Guardians of the Galaxy 3 but outside of that, I'm very worried for the MCU in phase 5 and beyond.
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Phase 5
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They don‘t want to tell great storys anymore. They only want to create content.
It goddamn feels that way ,doesn't it
A honest review from a regular person who doesn't seem to have "insider" friends....
Right?! Those guys are hacks. Anyone can say that. The only one I believe is Chris Gore.
And almost everything he says matches what those people have been saying for years now.
I agree, you can tell that John Campea has issues with the MCU and he will acknowledge it to a point but he quickly looks scared and will talk about how the future of the MCU looks amazing which is laughable.
@@calebcarraway361 Not really
@@BishopWalters12 John Campea is the biggest NPC in youtube.
Captain Cold is indeed DC... Yep, there are two dudes known for freezing people with ice guns in DC. Because of course.
Didn’t they make a Mr Freeze skin for Captain Cold in one of the Injustice games ?
Shows how similar they are that they can use all his moves with a Mr Freeze reskin and it looks perfectly natural
@@victor_gators Yes they made it. Lol. Basically Captain Cold had a skin of Mr. Freeze with completely different voice actor. xD
Pretty much agree with your take. Marvel is making too many movies and shows, so they're spread too thin. And they've made things needlessly complicated instead of keeping things sweet and simple.
Define "Spent Force."
The MCU.
Age of Ulton has the best quip in the entire MCU and it’s not from Tony Stark. Thor: “Nobody has to break anything” Ultron: “Clearly you’ve never made an omelette” 🤣🤣 then tony saying he beat me by one second 🤣🤣🤣
nah . thats white people funny... go look up Dave Chappelle then come back here...
really? you find that stupid cringe line funny? No wonder why MCU is so bad
When Endgame came out, I already know the mcu has hit its obvious peak. I'm going to be sticking along for however long this franchise goes, cause at the end of the day I still have a lot of fun with these projects. Basically got into the groove of watching new entry, enjoying it, watch the internet rip it to shreds, and move on. Quantumania was the best example of that. Am I gonna miss the popularity and praise it once had during the Infinity Saga? Yea. But nothing lasts forever, and I kinda accepted that
Your take on the MCU is spot on. I wonder how much Disney's desire to push people to Disney plus with their IPs affected the MCU. Seems like it started to go downhill when they were trying to get people to sign up with every show and movie.
The problem with the MCU is that it reached a plateau with phase 3 then they started throwing more stuff in a short period of time. They should have slowed it down and built it up slowly like they did with the infinity saga. All these Disney+ shows and movies just add up to more burn out. Less is more.
The biggest missed opportunity was not having a giant antman fight giant Lawrence fishburne in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in ant man and the wasp
Adam I love your channel and I love your evolution as a UA-camr in general, always liked your sense of humor and delivery in your videos lol. I don’t even have to agree with your opinions all the time to appreciate your content either, keep it up and I really hope your wife is dong better and recovers as quickly as possible.
By the way Captain Cold is a dc character, he’s a flash villain lol 😂
You’re really based and a good film critic! Keep up the good work
Appreciate that. Thanks!
It’s sad I no longer get excited for these movies.
same. Marvel used to be the shit. Now it's shit
me2, i used to be the guy that can remember the functions of every iron man suit
Although you were being ironic saying that no one has done a video like this before, ironically, no one has done it better - GREAT video ❤
I agree, generally, with everything you said. To me it really feels like Marvel doesn’t understand what got them to the heights of popularity and success. It was character writing. The characters were given time and space to grow on us. They seem to think the hero’s powers are what defines them now. Now they introduce characters left and right without spending any time with them. Remember Shang Chi? Where’d he go? Introduced him but he disappeared for the rest of the entire phase. Also, I really wish they’d go back to the villains and the stakes being appropriate to the hero. Everything is save the world or, even worse, save the friggin’ multiverse. Again. Calm down Marvel! Best example is the newest film. Ant-Man vs. Kang the Conqueror? Seriously? It feels like there is no real thought put in to this world any more. Writers are just allowed to do whatever. Also, The Scarlet Witch has been unforgivably wasted. She should have been the big bad, not Kang, for this phase. They could have, over a phase, showed her go from hero to villain as she slowly loses her mind from grief and loss. Then the Avengers would have to deal with an incredible threat that is also personal because she comes from within their own ranks. Begging the question of what happens when someone with tremendous powers becomes a threat. How do the Avengers deal with this? Would have been, I think, far more compelling.
Perfectly put! Scarlet should have been the big bad this phase. We know her, we connect with her. I think Marvel has lost the thread. Seems like the golden age is behind us.
This why you aren’t a writer
Maaaaaaaaan,
that's brilliant.☺👍
😂😭
Good thing you are not in charge of writing the mcu.
Its worse that Ant Man won. Lol Kang is just a joke.
Can't agree with your take on No Way Home. The entire theme of Spiderman is With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility. Peter Parker is a teenager who has incredible powers but is young and naïve. He tries to solve the problem with his friend's college rejections and ends up screwing things up in the Multiverse. He spends the rest of the movie trying to fix this mistake. Along the way, we get a lot more characterization of the various Spiderman villains and Peter is tempted to solve the problem of the villains by simply sending them back to their universe which would immediately cause their deaths. It is Aunt May who reminds them that he must strive to be better than that and it is she who insists that we see the good in each of the villains. In the end, Peter is sorely tempted to act out and destroy the Green Goblin but is stopped by his multiverse counterparts. It's a fascinating look at a very flawed superhero struggling with the great power he has.
Right, except it's actually Dr. Strange who causes the issues. The fact that Strange was on board with this was the silly part. The dude hasn't grown as a character at all. In fact, he has regressed since Endgame.
Ya his opinions are certain things like this is absolutely 🗑️! I don’t have some people actually believe people who try to push these weird narratives.
Agreed with you most definitely.
@@AdamDoesMovies All superhero movies have a bit of silly in them. Dr. Strange agrees to help Peter mostly out of kindness. Peter is still just a kid and he just lost his mentor after all. That actually shows some growth for Strange. OTOH, there's also more than a bit of arrogance going on here, which is still Dr. Strange's major flaw. He's always been a surgeon with a God complex. In any case, Strange's involvement is small. The movie is about how Peter handles his own power and learns from the other Peters about the dangers of power and revenge.
One of your best videos ever, Adam! This issue needed your specific take, and we appreciate it.
Age of Ultron is an amazing movie with very few flaws, and none of them glaring. I don't understand the hate people give to it.
Agree with pretty much everything, I quit the MCU cold turkey after Multiverse of Badness. I’ll be back for Guardians 3 but that will be my goodbye to the last characters I care about.
You hit the nail on the head Adam early MCU was so great because they were trying new things they weren't sticking to a formula and even as someone that still likes the MCU movies I don't love them anymore I mean not like I used to with the first 3 phases and yeah there was a lot jokes in early MCU movies but also things got really really serious when it was time to get really serious and no jokes were used to cut the tension out , again I still really really like the current the MCU projects but there's no comparing the MCU stuff with the previous 3 phase projects
I feel ya. Everybody has their time in the sun, but it never lasts forever. The MCU had it's run, and now it's gone completely corporate. Maybe someday they could right the ship, but Feige and company probably won't make that choice until it's too late. Honestly, the superhero genre dying for a while would be nice. Probably won't happen... but it'd be nice.
The MCU used to be an event every few months, not it feels like a chore or homework. 31 movies lol
This channel is going to be HUGE
As it should, I see a great entertainer in this dude
I want to see DC take the spotlight...The Batman, Joker, The Suicide Squad (2021), Snyder Cut have been great!
They definitely will this year and in 2025
The Cut was terrible
Right ! DC has been on fire 🔥! I don’t think the MCU is in the gutter but definitely a step down in quality.
I'm so happy to see someone who isn't a fan of Endgame like everyone else is supposedly. I still have no idea how Endgame is rated higher than Infinity War, when it significantly lowered the stakes, worsened the villain's characterization, and had such a shoehorned way to end a bunch of storylines.
Edit: YES! I ALSO FEEL HEARD OF FOR NOT LIKING SPIDER-MAN NO WAY HOME AS WELL! I always felt like people only liked it for having the 3 main Spider-man there, but that's just sloppy fan-service. Not to mention the way that the plot went to get them to meet together is so sloppy as well.
Not sure, but Endgame has not aged well. I think many people have soured a little on Endgame after repeat viewings. It happens, sometimes we get caught up in the hype and it takes time to realize something isn’t that good.
@@paulieprinceton4550I remember quite a lot of people did not like End Game, primarily how they treated time travel as so tongue an cheek. The plot was too bloated as well. Captain Marvel's introduction didn't add anything to the plot as well. Carol Danvers should have been introduced in phase 4. That being said I'll take Endgame over anything the Snyder verse had to offer.
The last hour of Endgame is great and that’s when everything goes down, so it think people just forget that the first 2 hours are just kinda meh.
Endgame was ok. Loved Infinity War.
Sorry to break it to you Adam but Captain cold is a dc character too, a flash villain lol
Made it thru the whole video. Loved it, and love your channel. It's one of my favorites for movie reviews!
Age of ultron is so underrated. I'll never understand the hate
It sucked
@@ajedi0770As opposed to what?
@@JoJo-mm8sn it being a better movie?
i actually like it
"She-Hulk: Attorney at Law" is probably the most callous and thorough character assassination I've ever seen done by a director who either doesn't care about (or maybe personally hates) the character in question.
I say "director" but I guess I mean "showrunners/writing team".
I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. There was a time when I used to be super excited for a new Marvel film, now I barely have any investment in current MCU. The quality has dipped so hard.
Imma die on that Thor 2 hill. Glad to see a non-Hollywood perfect romance, the action was on point, a twist, dry non-Marvelesc comedy, and a bad villain, sure, I'll give you that, but that old school intro tho.
Your spot on that overtly focusing on the “Multiverse” is a bad idea for dramatic storytelling. If there’s infinite universes with endless variants of characters that can essentially just die & come back anytime, what’s the point of caring…
Adam, I watched your video in its entirety from start to finish and had a blast. All the best. :)
Great review, and you stuck the landing with the end thoughts 🙂
Why doesn’t this channel not get more views? Bigger mystery than the MCU’s direction
Adam you made a good point with being grounded for a lot of their content. Ya know one huge mistake Marvel made for me? Cancelling the Netflix series!! They were gritty, compelling and had great characters! (Not iron fist). The Disney shows feel like fluff, throw away shows compared to those. Your thoughts?
Exactly! Daredevil, imo, is the best superhero tv show/movie ever.
Marvel studios had absolutely nothing to do with the marvel Netflix shows that was all by a different company (marvel television and Netflix themselves).
Sweet video. Looking forward to the next stream!
You are preaching the message that speaks to the industry, thank you
I really enjoyed the "play by play" of each movie chronologically and I'm (mostly) on the same page. It's disappointing to see what has become of the MCU but in a weird way I'm also grateful. I am ready to move on to something else. It's been exhausting. We need something new to get excited about. I don't want to do this for another 15 years.
Finally a great review. Thanks!
Hey Adam thanks for the honest reviews, their clear, precise and quite entertaining. I really enjoy them and your fun opinions. Thanks for the great content! It's helped me figure out movies to watch and more during my struggle with mental health! Keep being awesome. :)
I agree with the overall sentiment and most of what was said. Marvel used to be must-watch for me, even the TV shows. But that was when Marvel had a television department that knew how to make a proper show. I've skipped some of the stuff in Phase Four and stopped watching three of the D+ series that I started. I'll watch Guardians Vol. 3, but have no plans on watching anything else they have in the works. Maybe Deadpool, but I'm skeptical Disney will let that be what it needs to be.
Kevin Feigie literally said in a recent interview that Deadpool 3 will still be rated R just like the first two movies.
Adam, i love this videos you do love your analysis, keep going
Great video! Got my sub! You really nailed it bro!
I thought it was so insane that fucking SECRET WARS is your second Avengers movie after Endgame. How are we supposed to get excited for that SOOOO QUICK. They’ve rushed the hell out of the MCU and it’s disappointing as fuck
Brilliant rundown..totally agree with everything you have said Adam
Love this video bruh 👌🏾
Great Video Adam. I agree with you on the state of the MCU.
Hope you and your family are doing well.
Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost wrote Thor Ragnarok. Taika just directed the story 2 professionals wrote.
With Thor LnT, taika wrote it and Taika directed his own garbage story. You see what happens when u take the constraints off of a man child....we got a story for children. Literally.
There are 25 things, at least wrong with Love n Blunder.
He ruined Thor and Asgard for Me. I still physically read the comicbook floppies of Thor each month. I will always.
Love this video bro an I love you honesty an the fact that you don’t think you know everything you just speak on what you see 💯 keep up the good work bro
“Kevin Feege”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1:28
I like Eternals because of Celestials
Disney must "Do Better."
But the only thing they are capable of is Do Do.
God, I love your conclusion. Raw. Thorough. Necessary.
Well said.
Nuff said.
Awesome video and could not agree with you more
Good video, all true things, thank you for your service🤝
Dr Strange into the Multiverse of some madness, America Chavez was the secondary character and Strange was the 3rd third-ary character.
I'm happy to hear you like Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron. I also like those movies
for all those people who nitpicked avengers endgame to shreds for not being as “cohesive” as infinity war. how’s the mcu movies looking now in comparison.
Fantastic video Adam. You're right - there's not many reviewers on YT telling the truth of what has happened to the MCU. It is Disney pushing an agenda, NOT focusing on relatable, realistic characters that the audience can look up to..
Disagree. While I agree with this video, saying the MCU is declining isn't exactly a unique and controversial viewpoint. Literally all you see on the internet and youtube is mcu hate.
Again I'm not disagreeing with your opinion on the mcu- I'm disagreeing with your statement that no one is speaking out on it because saying the mcu sucks is a VERY popular opinion.
@Ekwensu yea once I posted it and then thought about it, I quickly realized that it's a fairly common point of view 😅
Nice breakdown! You sir are definitely a hero.
This is one of my favorite videos of Adam Does Movies 🎬
Not only do DC have two ice villains Mr. Freeze and Captain Cold but three or even four ice villains! Killer Frost, Icicle, Frostbite! Now that’s crazy
Is that the same shirt from yesterday… committed to the work from home. Haha Love ur channel
I am trying to batch film videos once a week. You will definitely see repeated shirts, haha. Thanks!
Refreshing to hear someone being completely honest about the Mcu
Look, for many people, in the comics, The Sensational She-Hulk was our "Marvel Wonder Woman" and now not only are we never going to get that in the MCU, it was so poorly received that will probably never get it ever because the studio will think it's the character's fault and not the vindictive and incompetent showrunners.
So while I kind of agree with you that the show in and of itself is harmless, I overall have to disagree on the grounds that they wasted one of the best characters in the comics and committed the most thorough character assassination I've ever seen in film.
Agree on all counts. Iron Man 1 and Infinity War set the bar too high. And just as you say, Endgame was a sign of times to come. No stakes copout writing.
Taskmaster sucked in Black Widow. He is supposed to be a man called Tony Masters.
Not a suit gimic gag.
Best video you’ve ever produced 👌🏾
It would have been cool to see hulk get a rematch with Thanos.
Thor the dark world was the first movie I saw stoned, managed to not remember a single scene from it. saw it sober, same deal. can't remember a single solitary scene
Good vid
Nice new background 👍
It's very nice to see a point od view from a man without stupid "feminism is bad", "m-she-u bullshit". You are generally being respectful, not full of sexist bullshit like in different reviews. Thanks dude!
Those guys are clowns and generally not even movie fans. Thanks for the comment!
@@AdamDoesMovies Most of them are not objective, laughing at idea of female hero or diversity in general (and still, those topics we need in movies). Political moves or message were always in any artistic media, that is what people were doing ALWAYS. I generally I agree we don't have a good representation of feminism, power of being a woman etc but laughing and denied we don't need it is childish.
100%
For the most part agree, well done.🤟🏽
I laughed so much at the intro! 😁
I. AGREE. YES. I am so tired of the new Phase 4/5 bull**** we have been getting. it's all SOULLESS. Its lifeless shlock. Conveyor belt, as you stated, was quite apt. Marvel needs to fire the writers for the past 10 projects and either hire new, better writers, or bring back some of the best of the best from the first three phases. They need to SLOW DOWN their pace of releases, and they need to add some real stakes back in. It has become an absolute shell of what it was pre-endgame. For a while, i was worried we were in for a bumpy ride until they found their stride again. I will be honest... im now worried we have lost MCU greatness forever. Ive been skipping 60% of the new releases which is something i NEVER would have done before. Its very tragic. I pray the MCU can find its way again, but for now, its an utter fucking let down and i hope they continue to bomb at the box office. Because the shit they have been serving... deserves. to. fail. Woof. Sorry for the rant, cheers Adam
My guy YES. I think I saw every phase 1, 2 AND 3 MCU release in theaters. I have not seen one phase 4 or 5 movie in theaters. I saw Dr. Strange 2 and Spiderman NWH on Disney Plus. But basically haven't paid a dime for any of those movies because they got rid of all the good heros
Really enjoyed Loki, Wandavision, Moonight and a few others. Very inventive and interesting. Didn't like Ms Marvel or Hawkeye.
Almost lost me at the beginning but when you started taking about the films you got accurate and honest. And I agree about AoU it was a nice follow up but there was something missing and I've never been able to figure out what
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the main problem is Disney got greedy and didn't have the guts to kill off more characters in Endgame. Endgame was the perfect opportunity to close several character arcs and thereby provide a "soft reset" of the timeline for the next phase of the MCU, and simplifying things going forward. But instead they kept almost everyone alive and proceeded to drag every surviving character into a multiverse of stupidity where they are shells of their former self.
I believe that instead of releasing the Captain Marvel movie during the infinity saga, they should have released Black Widow's own movie.
And if they wanted someone who could destroy Thanos' space ship and kept him busy, they could have left it to the Hulk.
Regarding finding Iron man, they could have left it to Thor, instead of giving Thor the role of an Softpotato.
Heck they could have had a story piece where Thor gets help to find Iron man with the help of a certain old man in a wheelchair. A person whose all students have gone missing after infinity war. This wheelchair man could help Avenger to find Thanos.
Adam is a very good movie reviewer. Not the one we all have, but the one we need. Not the one who asks for but deserves it
Adam is the reviewer youtube needs, but not the one it deserves.
Please stay in school
Adaman: The Dark Reviewer
@@mrnegativepredictsthefuture LOL!😂
Adam, YOU NAILED IT and expressed exactly what I have noticed. There was a build up then a massive cookie cutter decline after End Game. Only disagreement is with the Loki series was IMHO outstanding and I wish it kept going with an amazing art direction and plot... couldn't get enough of it. Otherwise, yeah, it's now hit or miss with MCU and there have been more misses as of late. THANK YOU for this review.
Good video
Dude this has To BE THE REALEST REVIEW TAKE I ever heard on a franchise!!💯👏🏽 I love how you broke this shit down!!!!
I agree with u bro, the MCU used to be something great with only occasional Thor the dark worlds here and there….now it’s somethin else
That's so right on, man. You said it all.
There is so much I'd love to discuss with you on this topic, but damn... Can't do it in the comments section. :)
I made it through, and you summarized exactly how I feel. Here’s my take, marvel studios said the hell with us day 1 fans and is making content for younger audiences to still enjoy. My 10 year old daughter loves going to see all the new marvel films and never has a qualm about them. I play along, “oh yea that was cool it’s exciting can’t wait for the next one.” But deep down I’m dreading them. Guardians 3 is the only film on the future timeline that I can look forward to. After that… not sure how I’m going to convince myself to spend the theatre ticket or spend the 9 hours on Disney plus to watch these shows. Never saw ms marvel or she hulk. Can’t do that to myself.
Great Rant, agree on all of this!
You forgot about Agents of Shield tho. Mostly how it tied together with Winter Soldier and potentially with Ghost Rider. But ask the rest seems to be on track with every other Disney+ film
"It would be really silly if DC had TWO ice themed characters"...
Mr Freeze
Captain Cold
Killer Frost
Icicle
Icicle Jr
Minister Blizzard
& Ice (just ice)
Good thing there aren't TWO of them, amirite 😂😂
It’s literally just the writing that’s gone off track, which makes editing harder to deal with.I mean, that first episode of Loki was brilliant, absolutely great writing! I just rewatched it since it first released and I was impressed with how they connected everything, and it got me more excited for more possible gems like loki(yeah Loki had a few meh episodes), but overall, like Wanda vision, it had its own unique indemnity with charm and suspense that was fresh(mostly).
5:14 "mandalorian hoodwink" lol what
Personally I think marvel should spend the next 10 years giving every skin color their own film. We don’t need to be entertained come on, what’s important is that skin colors are represented in their own films. Because, apparently diversity is not strength, segregated movies are.
My favorite MCU movie is Captain America Civil War. One of my least favorite MCU movies was Thor Ragnorak. Marvel turned Thor into an Asgardian Deadpool. Now every superhero has to be a comedian. And yes, Ragnorak led to Love and Thunder. The only Marvel movies worth watching these days are the three Tom Holland Spider-Man films.
-I've grown softer on Iron Man 3. That villain twist still takes a significant amount out of it for me, but there is still a good deal to give credit for.
-Comics have found a way to play with the multiverse and still have stakes. But its clear that from a movie and TV side, they are still figuring it out and some projects suffer because of it.
-It is a weird decision to have Captain Marvel go the direction it did. Maybe they got the confidence to do it after Wonder Woman over at DC got a lot of praise and didn't think things all the way through. But your right, CM needed a different approach.
-I enjoyed Far From Home. Admittedly, the lowest of the Sony/MCU movies so far but I had fun.
-WandaVision had a lot of good momentum. But the finale was sloppy in a lot of aspects.
-Loki isn't amazing, but I feel like it deserves a bit more credit.
-Eternals fails as part of a cinematic universe. Even as a standalone, it isn't good. It feels like its more profound and provocative than it actually is.
-I feel like your being too harsh on No Way Home. There is some good character work, and yes, some silly decisions made but when looking at the motivations, it isn't as bad as some may initially think. And I will give credit that this is a comic book movie that found a way to properly utilize the multiverse concept.
-Love & Thunder is trash, total agreement.
-Funny enough, I heard that as Sam Raimi was making Doctor Strange 2, Feige kept encouraging him to make it more like a Raimi film. At first glance thats encouraging in regards to having a director make a franchise film more unique. But I think thats where the disconnect your talking about comes from.
-Werewolf by Night was great for me as a Horror fan, including the classic Universal Monster movies.
-Its funny...Erik Kripke, the show runner for The Boys, talked a bit about the nature of streaming original shows. A lot of these people talk about them as 8 or 10 hour movies. He said thats the wrong approach, you still have to structure them as TV shows. I can see a lot of original streaming shows that need that structure, including the MCU shows that I have seen.
Overall, the decline of the MCU touches on a lot of major problems that Hollywood needs to deal with sooner rather than later. Worst case scenario, the blockbuster scene as we know it will crumble under itself and have long lasting effects across the industry, maybe even affecting the global economy as well.
The fight scene between Peter and goblin in happys building is EPIC .. I see ur point tho
Infinity War #1 I'm starting to like you even more. I don't understand why people think End Game is better.!?!
Enjoyed the video. Timestamps woulda been a nice touch, at least for the phases. Still, 👍🏻
The MCU is kinda like the Simpsons at this point: a series that’s past its prime and is only alive thanks to brand recognition.
I really like this long reviews