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i think I get what u meant by love to hate, since Spiderman and F4 are close and ofc F4 n Doom are nemesis, then Spiderman might actually be conflicted between, as like nobody knows Peter Parker, then F4 might be his close friends who may help him through the dark times, hell Reed might be like his second mentor, but as F4 n Doom conflict ensues, Spiderman will be shocked at Doom who look just like Tony will try to convince him to a good guy which Doom which is basically depressed and angry Tony would slowly be grinding down although there will be backlash that will result in Peter's utter given up on him, not before maybe Peter "betraying" F4 for Doom or just following but seen as betryal more and more. I can go on but u get the idea
@@jdamommioyou are right IF the spell is a memory erase spell. so a spell that targets people dirrectly BUT the context of Strange’s spell is removing Peter’s identity itself from that universe’s timeline. so its not just “peter is spiderman” knowledge is removed, but MJ and his friends doesnt even know PETER (not spiderman but peter himself) after the spell. i mean…records are also changed right? like videos, and stuff which is…you know…not alive. THE ONLY WAY i can picture Doom knowing peter is spiderman like you said is NOT by immune to Strange spell, but by making him a multiversal entity like Kang that travel through a lot of universes. so even if he also dont know our universe’s Peter is spiderman, he sees a lot of universes that have Peter as spiderman. so i can picture him saying things like “Miles Morales? Pavitr? hmmm…it cant be Gwen since you’re clearly male….maybe Aaron? no no no…Peter Parker? ah…judging from your reaction it seems that you are one of mr Parker”
The best thing about Dr Doom is that he is kind of an anti-villain as well, he would often 'defend' earth from other villains, just so he could steal their power or stop them from taking over his territory, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one that takes down Kang, then becomes the bigger villain by closing off the multiverse with his tech-magic.
@alihmaulaakmal nah. I think they gonna use the multiverse situation again to make this happen, and its getting out of control. I'm not a fan of multiverse in the narrative. Cause now they can just insert characters and actors whenever and whatever they want even though it doesn't make sense anymore. It's lazy writing.
They're gonna do a version of the 2015 Secret Wars in 2025 and they'll introduce Victor Van Doom in the Fantastic Four reboot then he'll steal the Beyonder's powers and become God Emperor Doom like he did in the comics then bring everyone to 1 universe and that will be the new main universe
Perfect opportunity to wrap up the multiverse. Also they can have doom absorb the power of the celestials and get them out of there since the mcu hasn't a clue what to do with them.
i was there, thos =is not HOW IT JAPPENED/ he actually this was ai upscaled and cgi. manilla effect on display. rdj acutally did a snide remark and flippped ofof the crowd to prove he is now "bad guy" it was jarring to say the least
No, by the time they reach 90, they will be up for running for president.... well, not 'running' specifically, more like shuffling. (Its just easier having presidents that drop dead on their own, rather than having to assassinate them)
It's kinda funny how Robert Downey went from being the one who sacrificed himself to stop Thanos in last Avengers movie, to now coming back and basically being the equivalent of Thanos in the next Avengers movie.
Seriously, are you'll that dumb? Since the Marvel world has already introduced the multiverse concept, it's clear that this version of Dr. Doom, aka Victor Von Doom, is a variant from a different universe. Although he may resemble Tony Stark (a.k.a. Iron Man), he is a distinct character. The multiverse allows for endless possibilities, making it exciting to see him face off against Marvel heroes. The twist of him looking like Tony Stark but being a different person altogether will surely create a thrilling and challenging situation for the heroes to navigate.
... Does this mean Tony von Doom has gypsy blood and tried to resurrect his dead parents with technology and magic? Because it's going to take people who understand Victor and Tony to write Tony ala Victor.
It's cool that he's back, but I would've liked a different actor to play Doom. RDJ's a great actor, especially in Oppenheimer, but Marvel needs different "anchors" to hold the franchise up.
They lost so much credibility with their dumbass decisions that they need an old favourite to convince fans that it's business as usual and worth supporting.
RDJ was perfect as Ironman. I can never see him pull off Doctor Doom with him being snarky, sarcastic, and talking in a fast-paced high-pitched voice in almost all of his movies. Doctor Doom in the MCU should be shakespearean-esque, reserved, sophisticated, and menacing.
It's called Acting. Watch his other roles, Charlie Chaplin, Lewis Strauss in Oppenheimer, Sherlock Holmes, Killers Lazarus in Tropic Thunder, Hank Palmer in The Judge
@@fahdchoudry7763 Yet he still carried that same snarky/sarcastic/almost high-pitched voice acting in roles like Sherlock and Chaplin (maybe not so much in Oppenheimer and definitely not in Tropic Thunder cause that was a comedy movie). What I'm saying is... RDJ's acting range is not as versatile as someone like Ralph Fiennes, Cillian Murphy, Karl Urban, Christoph Waltz, Bryan Cranston, fuck... I can still go on.
@@brabb1t_526 True, but it still does not justify how RDJ is supposedly "the best option" ...because they could've chosen a more affordable actor with better acting range - theres more options other than RDJ. They could've even gone the Darth Vader route and chosen a stunt man and a voice actor to save money.
@@c.jaydinero4421 I didn't hear that, but, I very clearly heard a man's voice in the video call it like five seconds before Downey actually appeared. Someone close to the camera.
Dude...Spiderman's gonna have it so much more rough now. His mother figure dead. His friends dont know him. And his father figure was once dead and is now gonna be (if he's anything like the comics) one of the single greatest threats the multiverse could face. Jesus what's next? PAUL in MCU confirmed?
How is he a threat? He's going to show up, display his power a little bit, get the upper hand and maybe kill a couple characters, disappear for a while then the avengers discover some random bs that will help them stop Doom and then they will fight and beat him.
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Im not crazy about this decision i feel they should of gave another great actor a shot to play one of the best villians in the comic books. Not use him as it as a schtick to bring back RDJ in a attempt to guarantee ticket sales
Sadly though, i think marvel NEEDS a move like this. Its a gamble but they've lost the publics trust for so long post endgame, they need to drive hype for the next year or so for any projects, and I feel this does the job. I personally have no ick for recasting actors as different roles. Iron man's sacrifice is still there, untouched. Its not the character coming back. Hell they did it with Loki as a different variant and that was fine. The nice thing about marvel movies is from now until Doomsday, there are going to be alot of projects and opportunity for lesser known or even just actors that havent been in the MCU already to shine and for them to showcase. In a perfect world, we never get here, but I think they need something to drum up general audiences again to stick around for the all the movies and shows that are gona release until this movie and I think this COULD work. A gamble indeed though. I am personally still holding out hope for them to do a proper X-men universe/story. That would bring me in so fast.
Right. It just doesn’t feel right. Feel like it’s taking all that goodness he did and throwing it all in the trash just to make money. They coulda gotten Kevin bacon to play Dr doom
Right. It just doesn’t feel right. Feel like it’s taking all that goodness he did and throwing it all in the trash just to make money. They coulda gotten Kevin bacon to play Dr doom. He shoulda just kept playing Ironman if he wanted to continue being in the MCU smh
I thought it would be Cillian Murphy as Victor Von Doom (Doctor Doom), and Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark (Superior Iron Man) as the next villains for the movies. I hope this turns out well.
A lot they can play with on his god complex after Tony became the savior of the universe..not to mention everyone in the MCU would want to trust him at first.
I feel like Doom will realize that his face is one of a hero in different universes. He will use it to his benefit and gain the trust of different avengers teams. Once he builds the trust of each team they will lead him to their respective earths anchor beings. Then Doom would kill one by one along the way absorbing their power. All of this concludes in battle world as the last version of earth where all the multiverse teams flea to. Booom you looking for this.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hell yeah Felix. Dope theory. It's always a pleasure to watch Robert Downey Jr. I've been a fan since the 80's. From Less Than Zero to a Legendary Marvel Hero.
Am I the only one scared by this? Doomsday is less than 2 years away, we practically have nothing on Doom up to this point, and in all of a sudden they're gonna have literally the MAN of the universe play Doom, basically undoing a fairy-tale ending he had in Endgame?
Most people still had no idea what Thanos was until Infinity War. A CORE storytelling mechanic in multiverse is evil-twin, and they haven't really explore that yet. Plenty of good ideas to steal. People also forget that ART isn't just about the ideas, it's also about the craftsmen's skills.
I feel like there's nothing tying the movies together. At least in the phase 1 movies you had Nick Fury in the end credits assembling a team, Shang-Chi, Dr Strange Multiverse etc. feels like there's nothing tying the movies together against one big baddie. Bringing back RDJ screams desperation, it's stupid. Next bring back Chris Evans as Galactus or something. The actors were only one factor in the MCU. Whoever came up with this idea is a stupid idiot, probably a nepo hire.
I got mixed feelings on this. I love RDJ and his take on Iron Man. However, I think Doom should have been played by someone else. I’m always going to see him as Iron Man and would’ve hoped he returned as a variant of Iron Man like Superior Iron Man.
It is a “safety” move. MCU has failed so hard for at least two years straight. After the Kang disasterthey are too scared to take a risk on another actor who may turn out to be a hiding secrets that would get them cancelled so they defaulted to someone they already know and trust. I think it is a lame decision but he will be fine.
I agree, they should’ve used the guy that played doom before he did a great job and is a good actor. This is bull shit, every original mcu character about to play multiple characters? Is there a shortage on actors and writers in Hollywood?
Lol dude, read comics! This makes sense and it was inevitable for MCU to continue without the real MCU character RDJ. It was always on the cards to bring him back in current multi verse saga without ruining his sacrifice in Endgame
I only feel disappointed 😅😅, they could have recast Iron Man, Black Panther and Cap and they chose to ruin it all and now they're gonna burn it to ashes.
Casting of Doom was more about fan service and to create a buzz, success for Marvel. Sad that the Kang story arch has been squashed, we might never see him as an Avengers level threat. Also if they are trying to end the multiverse, i feel like using the same actor from before makes things just as confusing moving forward. But I get it..Doom is similar to Stark in some ways.
He does play him in the comics but I think this was an attempt to get rid of Jonathan majors in the Kane dynasty Avengers, which was scraped apparently
I agree. Granted they could do stuff with like makeup to disguise RDJ or maybe just have him wear the mask the majority of the time. Dude has range as shown in Oppenheimer. So I think he can pull off the character. it just might be confusing for the characters and audience who know him as Iron Man. I'll wait for trailers of course like I always do. That said, I'm also sad the Kang story arch is just going to be abandoned. That build up which I was excited about will now be a waste of time and that plot thread will be unresolved. Hoping they do bring Kang back later down the line. Maybe after the soft reboot happens after Secret Wars
I dont like this idea. Yes, I know of Infamous Iron Man and I know of the multiverse but they should've casted a different actor. RDJ has already portrayed a Iconic character in the MCU and concluded that arc. Theres many other great actors that could've played Doctor Doom and them revealing this so soon seems desperate
So soon? The movie's coming out in less than two years. They have to start shooting very soon and when they did the secret would have come out anyway so might as well announce it now
Hate it. Is it supposed to Tony Stark as if he became Doom, or is it Victor Von Doom, who just happens to look exactly like Tony Stark? It's so fucking weird.
@@mslavender7994 I won't count out a version of Iron Man coming back from another universe for secret wars. Great mind to assist in figuring out how to beat another great mind. Sort of like how they needed his BIG BRAIN to figure out time travel. Just a thought. 🤔
Im imagining im the minority here, but im not sure i like this for multiple reasons. 1. I dont know why they're dropping Kang. The MCU is not new to recasts and I would have liked to have seen his story play out in a battle with the Avengers. 2. I think its been evident, but especially now, that the MCU is pulling some of DCs mistakes in getting too cute. I dont need some multiversal explination for the FF and Doom. The Xmen I get because you have to explain mutants in the MCU which till now didn't have them. The FF on the other hand is plug and play. Just give us the FF and Doom and dont convolute it. They did it with Spider-Man, I dont know why they can't with the FF. 3. As much as I love RDJ.....really? The MCUs down turn isnt so bad that they needed to do this. Not saying he'll be bad, in fact he'll probably be great, but this is 100% a situation of digging in the old well. I do like that the Russos are back though.
They dropped Kang because the Jonathan Majors was convicted of assault and harassment. He's been busy with a domestic violence intervention program and I'm not sure that's the brand identity Marvel was going for. Also, Ant-man and The Wasp: Quantumania was terrible. It didn't really make the character compelling or interesting.
@abebuckingham8198 I'm aware of what's going on with Majors. Hence my comment on the MCU isn't a stranger to recasts. I believe that Kang should have been recast and we should have seen the character play out his conflict with the Avengers. Also yes Ant-Man Quantumania wasn't the best, but it still exists. It still forwarded him as a universal threat and we also saw him presented as such with Loki. All I'm saying as a viewer it's annoying and unsatisfying to see a narrative built up and then suddenly dropped before its conclusion. Just because Antman stunk doesn't mean a clash with the Avengers would have.
I don't think you're the minority bro, I get your points and I agree with you. Idk how to feel about this. Even saw an excuse about Josh brolin playing Thanos and cable and I'm like sigh
And ALL of this is too cute by far. Earth-11029 story lines were terribad which is why Doom of 616 became Infamous Iron Man. I hated the multiverse variants then and I think I hate them even more now since it allows them to do lazy writing like this...sigh.
@@dab88 Yeah well seems that will always be the case when people find reasons to bitch about absolutely everything nowadays huh? They kill him off complain somehow, cry since 2019 about bringing him back somehow then complain when they do it. 😂😂 It's literally all people seem to dl on the internet now.
The alternative timelines are just lazy writing. MCU peaked with IW. It's time to move on to something else, but I am sure they will try to milk it until it is truly dead
@gordobrigadainviernoel8216 Infamous Iron Man was in the main 616 Timeline. It was after Secret Wars when Iron Man was dead, and Victor wanted to make amends for his actions.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that in the comics we only see Doom's face from the time before his accident. Because of Doom's humongous ego, he hid his scarred face behind a metal mask. That means that RDJ will be doing mostly voice and motion capture work, which makes sense not only as a way to have RDJ double dip but also means RDJ doesn't have to maintain a heroic physique. John Byrne had a great take on Doom where he postulated that Victor was only lightly scarred after the accident in college but because of his massive ego it was actually his decision to put the still burning hot metal mask on his face that actually led to the horrible disfiguring burns but that even over time his face has begun to heal (But given Wade Wilson's face how much further can one go). I really hope they don't go the Tony Stark variant route and just embrace everything about Doom, especially the whole King of Latveria back story.
The best thing about the Multiverse in Marvel and DC is they can absolutely do whatever they want and they never have to worry about us complaining that the person who played a character is no longer playing them because they can just make up a story that's amazing
His own person that just happens to be identical to 616 Stark? That would be ridiculous. A Stark variant is also dumb though. Bad casting decision imo but we'll see
@@patrykjedi4583 But people have been wanting to see a *proper* accurate Dr. DOOM from 616 magic and all. The other films ( Tim Story FF, and JT FF ) did not properly adapt Victor at all. Even the Roger Corman FF while bad to those actually got him right surprisingly. So, "being his own person" is "lame", yes because every bad guy should be an evil Tony Stark variant. Such an original concept.
@@trevorcraft9984 Chris Evans is the human torch and Captain America who are both MCU canon. Cable and Thanos are both Josh Brolin. If he plays doom substantially differently it will be fine especially if he's masked and probably voice filtered most of the time anyway.
My headcanon is this is Lewis Strauss after he gets exposed at the end of Oppenheimer. He changes his identity and goes to Latveria to study physics in order to get back at Oppenheimer and all the scientists (including Howard Stark) on their own turf. He builds a time machine to travel back in time and change the past but shenanigans happen and he ends up going to the present, killing that multiverse's Tony Stark by accident. He takes his memories and tries to travel back in time again, but ends up in the MCU multiverse.
I like it, but it infers Doom would fail at time travel. One of my favorite moments in Marvel lore is when Spider-man Explains how he beat doom because time travel always resets, causing Doom to invent "time locks" and that's why stuff that happens in Marvels stays having happened.
If they do this right… people will see the range of RDJ…. This also can be a variant to set up his Iron Man successor…. I’m looking forward to seeing what RDJ and the Russos do with these Avengers films
I think galactus will be a universe eater instead of a world eater. He will eat the fantastic four’s universe at the end of the film and Reed will only be able to save the fantastic four themselves by taking them to another universe (maybe 616, but I’d day it’ll be a different one entirely… maybe they get stranded in a dinosaur world or something very fantastic four-esque as they’re always going to weird worlds in the comics). Doom will be a part of the fantastic four universe but will also narrowly escape, but in a smarter way (going to a universe of his choice with all of his equipment still) he will know galactus is coming and say he can save all of the universes and drag everyone into battle world. I think this doom is a version of tony stark and the whole “different mask same task” being him saying tony starks task of trying to save everyone the best way he knows how; the mad scientist route (which we’ve already seen in things such as ultron) Maybe battleworld will be designed outside of time and space like the void from the TVA, or could be a different place entirely. Galactus can’t just be in fantastic 4. He’s a big bad, he will return.
Actually just watched Infinity War and after Thanos WON, and the Hereos were down and Tony Stark said 'we are beaten its over' was the perfect time to introduce Dr. Doom as a villain, but like Lex Luthor one that had the same fight the heroes did and he also suffered, in many ways, and didn't appreciate Thanos being the one who did it and not Doom himself. That would have been fantastic to see Doom introduced and completely blindside the audience but realize that Doom would be seriou sand committed to defeating Thanos, and in the comics it was Doom who created Time Travel, not Iron Man, and thus he would be poised to succeed and realize he can't do it alone. He is Doom, but he also knows the plan must succeed and yes, he is Doom so at some point, when he Thanos Snaps returning the universe back to all those living people, it would be remade in Dooms Image. Don't tell me for a nanosecond you would not go to see that movie.
Am i the only person NOT that excited about this?! Don't get me wrong, i love RDJ and all- but as Tony Stark, not Doom. Can we not just get new actors for new characters? i dunno...
I'm with you. Dooms my favorite villain in comics and having his debut in the MCU be just a Stark Variant feels hollow. There's no build up at all currently for him as a villain so I feel like this is going to come across as a desperate move to try and get people excited. I've been counting down the days to see him brought back and done well for once and I'll stay a bit skeptical till we get closer to the movies release.
If true, this is by far the worst casting in MCU history. That would literally be like casting ANY already established character's actor to play a new character, its asinine. When you could have got some new, fresh blood into the franchise and the role. Who's going to be the next RDJ to keep the franchises going? If they keep doing dumb shit like this, they are going to completely stagnante the MCU, the Industry, and eventually all of Di$ney. This is the worst casting they could have come up with.
I’m not gonna lie. They should have casted someone much younger. I love Robert Downey but this isn’t it. They should have kept Kang and it feels like Doom’s storyline might be rushed. If he isn’t the main villain for black Panther 3, I’m gonna lose it.
They couldn't bring him as long as the rights on the character lay with a different company. Then they already had plans in motion for Kang as the villain. Now things have lined up.
One of my buddies summed it up best imo he said ‘the one who will end the MCU as we know it is the doppelgänger of the one who began it’ that was what completely changed my mind on this reveal, the story and character possibilities they can have with this such as how Peter Parker and Morgan will react to Doom plus I mean come on that reveal suit with the hood and mask looked so cool
Well they just did. I question do ppl Care about plot and characters or just seeing the same actors. Cause it seems like ppl just care about seeing the same actors and they happy. Deadpool 3 proves you don’t need a good story or direction. Yall go running over and over for useless cameos or to see an actor play a role for the 109th time like they can’t be played by anyone else
Theyre making it make sense tbh, who knows that they have been hinting since a while ago during Iron Man, especially its a multi universe kinda thang. Maybe he has been planned as Doom all the time :)
If it’s not a Tony Stark variant, I can’t get behind it. But I’m assuming that it will be. If he is a variant of him it will help me get over always seeing him as Tony stark because he will still be him albeit evil and doom. If not the entire time I’ll just be thinking “that’s Tony stark, he’s always Tony stark”. So I truly hope that becomes the case.
RDJ is a good actor and has played many characters. This does not need to be an alternate Tony Stark becoming "Dr Doom". He is capable of playing Victor Von Doom. They can shave his facial hair, change his hairdo, give him an eastern-European accent, have him get scarred up and then wear the mask, then they put some Darth Vader-y electronic FX on his voice. He will disappear in the role and we won't think of him as Iron Man anymore. Maybe we won't even see him as regular unscarred Victor right away. This made me say, "WH-A-A-A-T????!?!!" at first, but I now think it'll be cool. I was super-skeptical about Chris Evans as Captain America, but he nailed it. His Cap was nothing like his Human Torch, obviously.
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Dang I wanted the original Doom.
I think he became doom cause he survived after endgame
Doctor Doom will change everything
Nice theory!
He’s the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude!
Genius!!! 🤓😂
i understood that reference
I KNOW WHO I AM!
The dudes are emerging
@@solvseusi get this reference 😂
He pulled that mask off and posed as if he was still Iron Man.
Right it was pretty lame imo
Nah he's being him lol.
He posed as RDJ lol
@@Green_Goldexactly 💯
He will always be Iron Man. Iron Man is Tony Stark. Tony Stark is RDJ.
disneys gonna have him doing this til he's 90
“I understood that reference” - Steve Rogers
@@radiohostalastoryou mean human torch….😂
Hysterical
Ayyyy deadpool reference!!!!!
@@dayyfin I understood that reference - Johnny storm
In 20 years RDJ will be playing Stan Lee in a biopic
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He went from "I love you 3000" to "I hate you 3000"
Doom is a complicated villain.
@@alexfrank5331 Robert became a villain after how he treated Ke Huy Quan at the Oscars...
@@dangerflyoh what happened??
i think I get what u meant by love to hate, since Spiderman and F4 are close and ofc F4 n Doom are nemesis, then Spiderman might actually be conflicted between, as like nobody knows Peter Parker, then F4 might be his close friends who may help him through the dark times, hell Reed might be like his second mentor, but as F4 n Doom conflict ensues, Spiderman will be shocked at Doom who look just like Tony will try to convince him to a good guy which Doom which is basically depressed and angry Tony would slowly be grinding down although there will be backlash that will result in Peter's utter given up on him, not before maybe Peter "betraying" F4 for Doom or just following but seen as betryal more and more. I can go on but u get the idea
“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain” - Harvey Dent
"You either die as a hero or you live long enough to become the villain."
RDJ: Hm, how about both?
Naww he just became the villian
@@willz_fcf2055infamous iron man
Damn u beat me to it
That's a awesome reference for Marvel to use..... from.....DC....😒
Oh snap!
You should be pinned for that!!!😂😂😂
Spiderman: Mr Stark
Dr Doom: I don't even know who you are.
But Doom would know exactly who he is.
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I mean, wasn't that settled at the end of No Way Home? No one knows who Spiderman is.
But, you...took... Everything... From...me
@@jdamommioyou are right IF the spell is a memory erase spell. so a spell that targets people dirrectly
BUT the context of Strange’s spell is removing Peter’s identity itself from that universe’s timeline. so its not just “peter is spiderman” knowledge is removed, but MJ and his friends doesnt even know PETER (not spiderman but peter himself) after the spell.
i mean…records are also changed right? like videos, and stuff which is…you know…not alive.
THE ONLY WAY i can picture Doom knowing peter is spiderman like you said is NOT by immune to Strange spell, but by making him a multiversal entity like Kang that travel through a lot of universes.
so even if he also dont know our universe’s Peter is spiderman, he sees a lot of universes that have Peter as spiderman. so i can picture him saying things like “Miles Morales? Pavitr? hmmm…it cant be Gwen since you’re clearly male….maybe Aaron? no no no…Peter Parker? ah…judging from your reaction it seems that you are one of mr Parker”
The best thing about Dr Doom is that he is kind of an anti-villain as well, he would often 'defend' earth from other villains, just so he could steal their power or stop them from taking over his territory, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one that takes down Kang, then becomes the bigger villain by closing off the multiverse with his tech-magic.
What a shit way to end the Kang storyline.
2008: I am Iron Man
2026: I. Am. DOOM.
So thats mean mcu will get reboot ?
@alihmaulaakmal nah. I think they gonna use the multiverse situation again to make this happen, and its getting out of control. I'm not a fan of multiverse in the narrative. Cause now they can just insert characters and actors whenever and whatever they want even though it doesn't make sense anymore. It's lazy writing.
@@TheBoogeyMan92 nah mcu will get a reboot becaus I heard that marvel comics got a reboot soft reboot in secret wars
I Am Not Groot
They're gonna do a version of the 2015 Secret Wars in 2025 and they'll introduce Victor Van Doom in the Fantastic Four reboot then he'll steal the Beyonder's powers and become God Emperor Doom like he did in the comics then bring everyone to 1 universe and that will be the new main universe
"We need to bring in the greatest actor to play this character."
The dude in the crowd that goes "Ben Affleck?" 😆
😂😂😂😂😂 I was laughing at that too. He’s got some low standards.
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms
Yo
There is one video that someone shouting Jared Leto! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MightyFooglesnoogans
Whoever said robert downey before he even revealed himself hit on the spot 😂😂
Probably saw him prior
Ben afleck?! 🗿🗿🗿
Fucking mark ass fan is an asshole
@@zionluke5407the guy who said “Jared Leto?” 🗿
The rumor had been circulating before.
Well there goes seeing Cillian Murphy as doom 😂
Well at least they got his co-star, I guess...
He would had a been a good pick but since mcu took a dump since end game they need someone big
Never say never… RDJ is playing this role to end this version of the MCU…. Poetic justice since he built the MCU
RDJ is a variant of Doctor Doom. There were a ton of Dooms on stage, but only one removed his mask. Who's to say one of the other ones wasn't Murphy?
Perfect opportunity to wrap up the multiverse. Also they can have doom absorb the power of the celestials and get them out of there since the mcu hasn't a clue what to do with them.
“They're Gonna Make Him Do This 'Till He's 90!” -Deadpool
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RDJ really wasnt kidding when he said hes a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude 😂😂😂.
And if this Doom is a variant that body-swapped with Stark... Then all the moreso.
0:18 can’t believe that guy called it
I'm not a huge marvel fan, just a casual viewer and even I've heard some rumours connecting RDJ and Dr Doom.
@@oskarskalski2982no way dude even YOU heard about it? That’s crazyyy
TONY😱
i was there, thos =is not HOW IT JAPPENED/ he actually this was ai upscaled and cgi. manilla effect on display. rdj acutally did a snide remark and flippped ofof the crowd to prove he is now "bad guy" it was jarring to say the least
The thing i could believe is that guy sounded like Robert Downy.
It’s 90 year old hugh Jackman vs 90 year old RDJ in avengers 32
No, by the time they reach 90, they will be up for running for president.... well, not 'running' specifically, more like shuffling.
(Its just easier having presidents that drop dead on their own, rather than having to assassinate them)
RDJ to Marvel: You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
PERFECT 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉im literally choking laughing
That’s more the Russo brothers having to come back
I use that Thanos line on all my returning exes.
This needs to be pinned 😂
You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain RDJ IS BACK
Or both. 😁
He did die tho, horribly, but still living in the role of MCU
Injustice i would say@@who_is_arnob
I kinda hate this
@@just1nt1m3 It's the confusion we are hating, not the whole idea
Spider-Man: Tony I thought I'd never see you again.
Dr Doom: I don't even know who you are.💀
That's what Tony Stark would have said too, as he would be affected by Strange's spell like everyone else.
Well that's the question.
Is this Victor von Doom played by RDJ? Or is a variant of TS that accepted the Dr. Doom Moniker?
@@Dadum-bass they announced him as no one better to play "Victor Von Doom"
@@Dadum-basscolour scheme of the secret wars logo could be a clue maybe!
@@RE7Hazuki it's a variant of doom.
It's kinda funny how Robert Downey went from being the one who sacrificed himself to stop Thanos in last Avengers movie, to now coming back and basically being the equivalent of Thanos in the next Avengers movie.
Seriously, are you'll that dumb?
Since the Marvel world has already introduced the multiverse concept, it's clear that this version of Dr. Doom, aka Victor Von Doom, is a variant from a different universe. Although he may resemble Tony Stark (a.k.a. Iron Man), he is a distinct character. The multiverse allows for endless possibilities, making it exciting to see him face off against Marvel heroes. The twist of him looking like Tony Stark but being a different person altogether will surely create a thrilling and challenging situation for the heroes to navigate.
Cillian Murphy would’ve been dope as Doom
Exactly 💯
This 💯💯
He turned it down
Oh man, I was happy about RDJ, now I'm sad. Cillian would be perfect!
@@Jerrance-wi1yois there any actual proof of this?
"Ben Affleck??" 😂😂😂 Ayyy give that dude a medal
He will be better fits 😊
I mean, if Ben Affleck were have to get a Daredevil redemption, it would be nice.
LOL.
Some dude at an other angle said Jared Leto.
Doom is brave 😂😂😂
@@adamburke4738ben affleck gets better with time
peter: Mr. stark❔
doom: no there is only doom
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah!!
And then smacks him to the sky 😂😂
You just reminded me, I can’t wait to hear him say that line🤦🏾♂️
Ok, now will Spiderman Tom Holland fight him too?
"ben affleck?" lmao fucin killed me @8:00
LMFAO
Do you think people in the 616 marvel universe are going to be like "hey Tony your back!!....hey wait why are you dressed like that?
Like Savitar from The Flash TV show fooling Team Flash
Bc he's not gon be Tony. He dr doom from different universe
@@CaiisrealagainI think his point is that he looks like Tony. So are they going to address his likeness of his face
@@Caiisrealagain 5th wall break? Hey, you look very familiar...have we met?
... Does this mean Tony von Doom has gypsy blood and tried to resurrect his dead parents with technology and magic? Because it's going to take people who understand Victor and Tony to write Tony ala Victor.
Then: Team Captain vs Team Iron Man
Now: Team Human Torch vs Team Dr. Doom
Human torch is a pile of bones and meat he has a very foul mouth
No bro, there is no Team Torch 😂😂😂
@kuzatoraparker1824 it's a reference to Chris Evans (Captain America) having portrayed Johnny Storm in the Jessica Alba Fantastic 4 films.
Deadpool got him killed
@sascharai1335 human torch ran his mouth too much.
It's cool that he's back, but I would've liked a different actor to play Doom. RDJ's a great actor, especially in Oppenheimer, but Marvel needs different "anchors" to hold the franchise up.
They lost so much credibility with their dumbass decisions that they need an old favourite to convince fans that it's business as usual and worth supporting.
Buddy they gona do a reboot after secret wars. So yeah we will get it after secret wars.
This. It's annoying.
Facts
I agree it’s super lazy
Disney will now hire Mark Hamill to play Palpatine's not-so-honorable great-grandson in "Star Wars X: The Bloodline".
Better one is casting Yoda as Palpatine
how the hell did dude predict that seconds before lmaooo
Wait a minute! I thought it was gonna be Avengers Kang Dynasty. Not Avengers Doomsday. What the hell is going on?
@johnsantos507
Guess you didn't keep up with the Johnathan Majors news huh?
@@johnsantos507the actor who plays Kang got in some legal trouble so they fired him and are doing a different story now
@@mitchellcarpenter8513 Yeah I know. But they should find someone who will be the actor of Kang the Conqueror.
@@johnsantos507 It must be us who is really in the mutliverse!!!!
"New Mask. Same Task." 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ikr😂 I'm scared, like it's definitely not the same task😭
Peace in our time
Saving Marvel's ass.
Infamous Iron Man?
Being the smartest man in the world who plays by his own rules...
Lmao to the lady that yelled out Robert before Kevin announced it
RDJ was perfect as Ironman. I can never see him pull off Doctor Doom with him being snarky, sarcastic, and talking in a fast-paced high-pitched voice in almost all of his movies. Doctor Doom in the MCU should be shakespearean-esque, reserved, sophisticated, and menacing.
Well Said!!
It's called Acting. Watch his other roles, Charlie Chaplin, Lewis Strauss in Oppenheimer, Sherlock Holmes, Killers Lazarus in Tropic Thunder, Hank Palmer in The Judge
@@fahdchoudry7763 Yet he still carried that same snarky/sarcastic/almost high-pitched voice acting in roles like Sherlock and Chaplin (maybe not so much in Oppenheimer and definitely not in Tropic Thunder cause that was a comedy movie).
What I'm saying is... RDJ's acting range is not as versatile as someone like Ralph Fiennes, Cillian Murphy, Karl Urban, Christoph Waltz, Bryan Cranston, fuck... I can still go on.
@@user-zl2ecproblem with this list is that the movie will never be as big as it will be with the names you mentioned
@@brabb1t_526 True, but it still does not justify how RDJ is supposedly "the best option" ...because they could've chosen a more affordable actor with better acting range - theres more options other than RDJ. They could've even gone the Darth Vader route and chosen a stunt man and a voice actor to save money.
"Ben Affleck?!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I heard that too 😂
As best actor, naw. I was like is he joking?!
@@c.jaydinero4421 I didn't hear that, but, I very clearly heard a man's voice in the video call it like five seconds before Downey actually appeared.
Someone close to the camera.
Bruce: “Tony? Is that you?”
Doom: “No, my name is Victor”
Doom: but you can call my... Doctor Doom
@@flyingbananapeel6495 no it will be Tony but not their Tony
@@D.AverageJoeit’s victor Von doom, they said it at the conference
@@christianr.5868 trust me it will be a version of Tony Stark also the Secret Wars logo are Ironman colors.
Dude...Spiderman's gonna have it so much more rough now. His mother figure dead. His friends dont know him. And his father figure was once dead and is now gonna be (if he's anything like the comics) one of the single greatest threats the multiverse could face. Jesus what's next? PAUL in MCU confirmed?
Gross 🤢, I hope not.
Who tf is paul??? 😂😂😂😂
How is he a threat? He's going to show up, display his power a little bit, get the upper hand and maybe kill a couple characters, disappear for a while then the avengers discover some random bs that will help them stop Doom and then they will fight and beat him.
"Mr stark?"
"There is only DOOM"
Paul from Deadpool movie
“We’re failing! Quick, bring back RDJ!” It won’t help 😂🤣😂
I have a feeling the Russo brothers know what they’re doing, but man it would be sick to see Cillian Murphy be Doom.
only if they give rdj another good role
I have no fucking faith, just give me a normal doctor doom, how hard can it fucking be
Lol this decision is dogshit.
Feige has nothing left.
@sm0ky12 This is a joke surely.
Disney is dogshit now
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 it's bots y'all. They have billions and billions of dollars. No way they can resist influencing comments and likes on youtube with their budget. It's too easy. Literally pay someone min wage to create and manage thousands of accounts and reply positively to current events.
Im not crazy about this decision i feel they should of gave another great actor a shot to play one of the best villians in the comic books. Not use him as it as a schtick to bring back RDJ in a attempt to guarantee ticket sales
💯 agree
Sadly though, i think marvel NEEDS a move like this. Its a gamble but they've lost the publics trust for so long post endgame, they need to drive hype for the next year or so for any projects, and I feel this does the job. I personally have no ick for recasting actors as different roles. Iron man's sacrifice is still there, untouched. Its not the character coming back. Hell they did it with Loki as a different variant and that was fine. The nice thing about marvel movies is from now until Doomsday, there are going to be alot of projects and opportunity for lesser known or even just actors that havent been in the MCU already to shine and for them to showcase. In a perfect world, we never get here, but I think they need something to drum up general audiences again to stick around for the all the movies and shows that are gona release until this movie and I think this COULD work. A gamble indeed though. I am personally still holding out hope for them to do a proper X-men universe/story. That would bring me in so fast.
Right. It just doesn’t feel right. Feel like it’s taking all that goodness he did and throwing it all in the trash just to make money. They coulda gotten Kevin bacon to play Dr doom
Exactly, you got it
Right. It just doesn’t feel right. Feel like it’s taking all that goodness he did and throwing it all in the trash just to make money. They coulda gotten Kevin bacon to play Dr doom. He shoulda just kept playing Ironman if he wanted to continue being in the MCU smh
Chris Evans as magneto next
Haha might as well
Nah he'll likely be fire torch or restored to youth as Captain America like in the comics
Nah. Fassbender is perfect.
@@rohitkamble3568 nah chris evans shoule comeback as captain hydra
😂
"Power capacity increased by 400%"
"...how about that..."
I saw a video where someone in the crowd says “Jared Leto” right before he takes off his mask 😂
#ReleaseTheAyerCut damnit
Fans would have been in an uproar if that happened 😂😂😂😂. His roles as morbius and joker are not well received.
@@gammafrost And whats sad is hes not a bad actor. He just keeps taking these badly written roles
Thank God! He would just ruin another villain like he did Joker "Hunka Hunka......Alllllllllrighty then!"
Aw that would have been morbin!
Dr strange: stark?
Dr doom: i'm dr. Doom
Dr strange: sorry! Wrong timeline.
Dr.Strange: "I think you're here to do us harm"
RDJ Dr.Doom: "ya no shit Shirlock"
never make jokes on the internet again
Don't count against something like that!
Dr Victor von Doomlittle
"Oh we're using our psychiatric practice Aliases!"
RDJ said "Chris Evans can do and so can I."
Chris Evans reprising his role as the Human Torch 😂😂😂
I thought it would be Cillian Murphy as Victor Von Doom (Doctor Doom), and Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark (Superior Iron Man) as the next villains for the movies. I hope this turns out well.
The one that started it all is abt to end it.
The Return of The King!
Did any "industry insiders" or any other "sources" tip you off to this development?@@emergencyawesome
Right, he built it up and he’ll burn it all down
Technically that was blade
A lot they can play with on his god complex after Tony became the savior of the universe..not to mention everyone in the MCU would want to trust him at first.
I feel like Doom will realize that his face is one of a hero in different universes. He will use it to his benefit and gain the trust of different avengers teams. Once he builds the trust of each team they will lead him to their respective earths anchor beings. Then Doom would kill one by one along the way absorbing their power. All of this concludes in battle world as the last version of earth where all the multiverse teams flea to. Booom you looking for this.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hell yeah Felix. Dope theory. It's always a pleasure to watch Robert Downey Jr. I've been a fan since the 80's. From Less Than Zero to a Legendary Marvel Hero.
Nah honestly that's lame as hell and would basically be all about RDJ. This is the lamest and most pathetic theory yet sorry for being a prick.
Not really lol. This is from earth 11029 where victor tricks tony into an experiment and transfers his mind into Tony's body and Tony's mind into his
i think he was the hero in his universe cause dr doom took over his bodu
@@Rr-j4x well in demon In an armour volume 11 Victor tricks tony into an experiment and transfers his mind into Tony's body and Tony's mind into his.
MCU: “Do you either die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain?“
RDJ: *_“I say, is it too much to ask for both?“_*
He literally died as a hero lol now is alive as a villain...chefs kiss 😘😚
Best response!
I hope that they use this as a Tony stark that has gone rogue in a different universe, and not just a completely new person with the same face.
Facts
Am I the only one scared by this? Doomsday is less than 2 years away, we practically have nothing on Doom up to this point, and in all of a sudden they're gonna have literally the MAN of the universe play Doom, basically undoing a fairy-tale ending he had in Endgame?
Thing is... this isn't Tony. It adds to the tragedy that this is someone else entirely. A man with the face of the person who started it all.
@@shmyanYT yes yes yes
it's gotta be done. Jonathan ruined it. this is an ace of spades
Most people still had no idea what Thanos was until Infinity War.
A CORE storytelling mechanic in multiverse is evil-twin, and they haven't really explore that yet. Plenty of good ideas to steal.
People also forget that ART isn't just about the ideas, it's also about the craftsmen's skills.
I feel like there's nothing tying the movies together. At least in the phase 1 movies you had Nick Fury in the end credits assembling a team, Shang-Chi, Dr Strange Multiverse etc. feels like there's nothing tying the movies together against one big baddie. Bringing back RDJ screams desperation, it's stupid. Next bring back Chris Evans as Galactus or something. The actors were only one factor in the MCU. Whoever came up with this idea is a stupid idiot, probably a nepo hire.
16 missed calls from *Jarvis* 💀
I got mixed feelings on this. I love RDJ and his take on Iron Man. However, I think Doom should have been played by someone else. I’m always going to see him as Iron Man and would’ve hoped he returned as a variant of Iron Man like Superior Iron Man.
It is a “safety” move. MCU has failed so hard for at least two years straight. After the Kang disasterthey are too scared to take a risk on another actor who may turn out to be a hiding secrets that would get them cancelled so they defaulted to someone they already know and trust. I think it is a lame decision but he will be fine.
Same here, family, same here... 😢😢😢
I agree, they should’ve used the guy that played doom before he did a great job and is a good actor. This is bull shit, every original mcu character about to play multiple characters? Is there a shortage on actors and writers in Hollywood?
Well firestorm became Capetian America you’ll get over it lol
@trevortendaji5388 not firestorm that's a DC character. You mean the human torch
"For 400 years, that mask, has kept us down"
"I know who I am! I'm a dude playing the dude, disguised as another dude!"
Sounds Like Klinger LOL
he dont drop character til he done the dvd commentary
Marvel: we ran out of ideas, and we are scared
Read a comic 😂😂😂
Yes but I like this scared idea a lot . Dr doom was the dopest villain
I think the fear involves them pickinh rdj amd not some fresh meat@@greenmonk941991
Lol dude, read comics! This makes sense and it was inevitable for MCU to continue without the real MCU character RDJ. It was always on the cards to bring him back in current multi verse saga without ruining his sacrifice in Endgame
ReAd a cOmiC, tHiS mAkE tOtALLy sEnsE anD isN't a DessPerAte aTTeMp oF Marvel tO guArAnTee tiCKetS
When one of the russo said greatest actor some audience guy said "Ben Affleck?"😂😂
They also said Jared Leto ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah I didn't know comedians were chosen as audience this year
Someone else said "jared leto?"
@@mamelandro3972 so RDJ is a better actor than Affleck? Really? 😅
@@CosZizoupersonally for me yes
@@CosZizou have you ever heard the tragedy of Ben the Razzie award winner?
Cillian murphy was our fan cast to play doctor doom!
Why do I feel disappointed but excited at the same time?
Exactly 😅
I just made a similar comment not too long ago.
I only feel disappointed 😅😅, they could have recast Iron Man, Black Panther and Cap and they chose to ruin it all and now they're gonna burn it to ashes.
Same. I want kang
That's what she said 😂
@@dolyhariantoeveryone is happy wolverine is back but they brought him back as a variant. Not the OG Wolverine we know
Casting of Doom was more about fan service and to create a buzz, success for Marvel. Sad that the Kang story arch has been squashed, we might never see him as an Avengers level threat. Also if they are trying to end the multiverse, i feel like using the same actor from before makes things just as confusing moving forward. But I get it..Doom is similar to Stark in some ways.
It's actually in the comics, too. There are versions where Tony Stark becomes the new Dr. Doom.
Hope we get a major plot twist where the real Dr.Doom show's up and kills him
@@breannalarsen8871 Timmy from Sasktoon who never read the comics but saw all the mcu movies and has all the RDJ merchandise might get confused. :P
He does play him in the comics but I think this was an attempt to get rid of Jonathan majors in the Kane dynasty Avengers, which was scraped apparently
I agree. Granted they could do stuff with like makeup to disguise RDJ or maybe just have him wear the mask the majority of the time. Dude has range as shown in Oppenheimer. So I think he can pull off the character. it just might be confusing for the characters and audience who know him as Iron Man. I'll wait for trailers of course like I always do. That said, I'm also sad the Kang story arch is just going to be abandoned. That build up which I was excited about will now be a waste of time and that plot thread will be unresolved. Hoping they do bring Kang back later down the line. Maybe after the soft reboot happens after Secret Wars
I dont like this idea. Yes, I know of Infamous Iron Man and I know of the multiverse but they should've casted a different actor. RDJ has already portrayed a Iconic character in the MCU and concluded that arc. Theres many other great actors that could've played Doctor Doom and them revealing this so soon seems desperate
So soon? The movie's coming out in less than two years. They have to start shooting very soon and when they did the secret would have come out anyway so might as well announce it now
💯
thank you! glad im not the only one.
@@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm i would assume that by "so soon" they meant hiring RDJ back so soon after completing his arc as Iron Man
Hate it. Is it supposed to Tony Stark as if he became Doom, or is it Victor Von Doom, who just happens to look exactly like Tony Stark? It's so fucking weird.
- Can we get The Hulk in a Hallmark Christmas movie? He falls in love with a single mother.
lmfao. okay i'd actually watch this. or worse make it a lifetime sposal abuse movie. Give whole new meaning to "you wouldnt like me when i'm angery!"
He's my favorite. But I must admit I was excited to see him back as Iron Man and someone else take on the role of DOOM.
We all knew he'd be back eventually. But I didn't expect it to be as Doctor Doom. lol
@@emergencyawesomeI would've preferred Cillian Murphy or Max Irons as Dr. Doom. I was expecting RDJ to return as Iron Man.
@@mslavender7994 I won't count out a version of Iron Man coming back from another universe for secret wars. Great mind to assist in figuring out how to beat another great mind. Sort of like how they needed his BIG BRAIN to figure out time travel. Just a thought. 🤔
It would have been a dream to see RDJ as Iron Man from another universe, beating Doom's ass.
@@OkarinHououinKyoumalol Dr doom would mop iron man, just like Thanos
The guy whispering it's Robert Downey Jr was spot on 😂
Nah that’s just annoying imo. People like that are just irritating to be around
@@pennymeisterrr8394grateful he didn’t immediately soy out and go “see see I told you”
Oh really???
@@pennymeisterrr8394 how so? It's annoying when people who call things correctly are not given credit
@@pennymeisterrr8394 agreed, a-hole through and through.
Marvel:90% of the time I have no idea what the fuck I’m talking about
We got GTA 6 before Avengers : Secret Wars 💀
Everyone got ur mom before secret wars ☠️
@@javairflorez7889 Not funny
@@khadsgaming Hilarious
That's adorable, is GTA 6 in your hands right now?
@@khadsgamingit's actually funny we'll pass her around like a blunt creaming her
You know disney is in trouble if they have to bring him back
It's a multiverse Doom bruh😂 RDJ never said he was done with the MCU, he was just done with that Iron Man.
@@ezekielsparadise4633chill dude Disney's stock is at $89. Used to be $210 in 2021. Disney is not doing well.
Im imagining im the minority here, but im not sure i like this for multiple reasons.
1. I dont know why they're dropping Kang. The MCU is not new to recasts and I would have liked to have seen his story play out in a battle with the Avengers.
2. I think its been evident, but especially now, that the MCU is pulling some of DCs mistakes in getting too cute. I dont need some multiversal explination for the FF and Doom. The Xmen I get because you have to explain mutants in the MCU which till now didn't have them. The FF on the other hand is plug and play. Just give us the FF and Doom and dont convolute it. They did it with Spider-Man, I dont know why they can't with the FF.
3. As much as I love RDJ.....really? The MCUs down turn isnt so bad that they needed to do this. Not saying he'll be bad, in fact he'll probably be great, but this is 100% a situation of digging in the old well.
I do like that the Russos are back though.
I agree - RDJ face is dead in mcu- to see him again - it’s boring
They dropped Kang because the Jonathan Majors was convicted of assault and harassment. He's been busy with a domestic violence intervention program and I'm not sure that's the brand identity Marvel was going for. Also, Ant-man and The Wasp: Quantumania was terrible. It didn't really make the character compelling or interesting.
@abebuckingham8198
I'm aware of what's going on with Majors. Hence my comment on the MCU isn't a stranger to recasts. I believe that Kang should have been recast and we should have seen the character play out his conflict with the Avengers. Also yes Ant-Man Quantumania wasn't the best, but it still exists. It still forwarded him as a universal threat and we also saw him presented as such with Loki. All I'm saying as a viewer it's annoying and unsatisfying to see a narrative built up and then suddenly dropped before its conclusion. Just because Antman stunk doesn't mean a clash with the Avengers would have.
Kang is just a lame character. Doom is way cooler and more nuanced as well.
I don't think you're the minority bro, I get your points and I agree with you. Idk how to feel about this. Even saw an excuse about Josh brolin playing Thanos and cable and I'm like sigh
Earth-11029 Tony Stark became Dr Doom in the comics.
Earth-616 Victor von Doom became Iron Man.
And ALL of this is too cute by far. Earth-11029 story lines were terribad which is why Doom of 616 became Infamous Iron Man. I hated the multiverse variants then and I think I hate them even more now since it allows them to do lazy writing like this...sigh.
@@tubeewrvery lazy…. This is such a L for me
We know and think it’s the wrong choice
@@tubeewr
I hoped and prayed that D&W would completely break the multiverse.
So that MCU would have to quit this C**P.
@@prohollow606Lazy go read a comic
RDJ is the next Aizen Sosuke. Most beloved Villian :D
Disney must’ve gave Downey and the Russos a small country each to come back, wow
They did they bought out Latrveria , Doomstadt is the capital where Downey will reside it’s located in Europe .
Disney did just buy Epstein's island....
Im not gonna lie, this got me.@@UncleTermite
@@UncleTermite Where? Where?
* European looking around frantically *
Their brains have turned to a puddle of mud with this casting. Why don’t we recast Red Skull with Chris Evans?!
Risk aversion. The studios are all playing it safe and in doing so, shooting themselves in the foot. Same story with everything Disney.
Dr Doom the infamous iron man is an alternate timeline. No effect on present day stark.
@@dab88
Yeah well seems that will always be the case when people find reasons to bitch about absolutely everything nowadays huh?
They kill him off complain somehow, cry since 2019 about bringing him back somehow then complain when they do it. 😂😂
It's literally all people seem to dl on the internet now.
The alternative timelines are just lazy writing. MCU peaked with IW. It's time to move on to something else, but I am sure they will try to milk it until it is truly dead
@gordobrigadainviernoel8216
Infamous Iron Man was in the main 616 Timeline. It was after Secret Wars when Iron Man was dead, and Victor wanted to make amends for his actions.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that in the comics we only see Doom's face from the time before his accident. Because of Doom's humongous ego, he hid his scarred face behind a metal mask. That means that RDJ will be doing mostly voice and motion capture work, which makes sense not only as a way to have RDJ double dip but also means RDJ doesn't have to maintain a heroic physique. John Byrne had a great take on Doom where he postulated that Victor was only lightly scarred after the accident in college but because of his massive ego it was actually his decision to put the still burning hot metal mask on his face that actually led to the horrible disfiguring burns but that even over time his face has begun to heal (But given Wade Wilson's face how much further can one go).
I really hope they don't go the Tony Stark variant route and just embrace everything about Doom, especially the whole King of Latveria back story.
That’s not postulated it’s fact,. You can easily look up the comic panels where this happens.
IT's RDJ.
DOOM is RDJ.
That's all there is.
Hopefully he keeps his mask on all the time and still plays iron man
It’s the multiverse. This version of Doom can be whatever they want.
@@WorldBeater123Dont start with that. They should respect the comics and the fans. As they USUALLY do. Usually.
The best thing about the Multiverse in Marvel and DC is they can absolutely do whatever they want and they never have to worry about us complaining that the person who played a character is no longer playing them because they can just make up a story that's amazing
*Imagine Deadpool taking shots at RDJ as Doom*
I just hope Viktor Von Doom is his own person and not a variant of Tony Stark.
We'll see!
His own person that just happens to be identical to 616 Stark? That would be ridiculous. A Stark variant is also dumb though. Bad casting decision imo but we'll see
Being his own person is lame and feels recycled. Making him be tony stark gone bad from alternate universe which happens ultimate doom in comics
@@patrykjedi4583
But people have been wanting to see a *proper* accurate Dr. DOOM from 616 magic and all. The other films ( Tim Story FF, and JT FF ) did not properly adapt Victor at all. Even the Roger Corman FF while bad to those actually got him right surprisingly.
So, "being his own person" is "lame", yes because every bad guy should be an evil Tony Stark variant. Such an original concept.
@@trevorcraft9984 Chris Evans is the human torch and Captain America who are both MCU canon. Cable and Thanos are both Josh Brolin. If he plays doom substantially differently it will be fine especially if he's masked and probably voice filtered most of the time anyway.
They should have just asked Cillian Murphy to do it.
I love RDJ, but they are just doing an evil Ironman because apparently he's just evil inside
I thought Cillian was going to be Dr. Doom? I guess not.🤷
@@blackcrowvol2281 Me too.
Cillian is not a globe star like RDJ.
@@zaroonyakhyakhan4514You must be a child or living under a rock
MCU had to do one thing ONE THANG!!!! *LONG SIGH!!* 🤐🤐☹☹☹
My headcanon is this is Lewis Strauss after he gets exposed at the end of Oppenheimer. He changes his identity and goes to Latveria to study physics in order to get back at Oppenheimer and all the scientists (including Howard Stark) on their own turf. He builds a time machine to travel back in time and change the past but shenanigans happen and he ends up going to the present, killing that multiverse's Tony Stark by accident. He takes his memories and tries to travel back in time again, but ends up in the MCU multiverse.
That would kinda be dope to have real world lore in this.
You are absolutely nuts, & it’s beautiful 😢
I like it, but it infers Doom would fail at time travel. One of my favorite moments in Marvel lore is when Spider-man Explains how he beat doom because time travel always resets, causing Doom to invent "time locks" and that's why stuff that happens in Marvels stays having happened.
8:05 “Ben Affleck?” 😂😂
Absolute legend 😂
7:58 "Ben Affleck?" lol
@@nalyde4901 lmao right
I died when he said that 😭😭😭😭
If they do this right… people will see the range of RDJ….
This also can be a variant to set up his Iron Man successor….
I’m looking forward to seeing what RDJ and the Russos do with these Avengers films
that doom outfit look like it came straight from spirit halloween or Walmart tho😅😅😅
Spider-Man: Mr. Stark?
Doom: Hello Peter.
lol bro
so dark
You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.
💀
I think galactus will be a universe eater instead of a world eater. He will eat the fantastic four’s universe at the end of the film and Reed will only be able to save the fantastic four themselves by taking them to another universe (maybe 616, but I’d day it’ll be a different one entirely… maybe they get stranded in a dinosaur world or something very fantastic four-esque as they’re always going to weird worlds in the comics). Doom will be a part of the fantastic four universe but will also narrowly escape, but in a smarter way (going to a universe of his choice with all of his equipment still) he will know galactus is coming and say he can save all of the universes and drag everyone into battle world. I think this doom is a version of tony stark and the whole “different mask same task” being him saying tony starks task of trying to save everyone the best way he knows how; the mad scientist route (which we’ve already seen in things such as ultron)
Maybe battleworld will be designed outside of time and space like the void from the TVA, or could be a different place entirely. Galactus can’t just be in fantastic 4. He’s a big bad, he will return.
In the black celestial ark it was stated that he could consume the multiverse
I was hoping F4 would be the origin of Galactus and the film would show him turning from human form into Galactus as the F4 universe ends
Actually just watched Infinity War and after Thanos WON, and the Hereos were down and Tony Stark said 'we are beaten its over' was the perfect time to introduce Dr. Doom as a villain, but like Lex Luthor one that had the same fight the heroes did and he also suffered, in many ways, and didn't appreciate Thanos being the one who did it and not Doom himself. That would have been fantastic to see Doom introduced and completely blindside the audience but realize that Doom would be seriou sand committed to defeating Thanos, and in the comics it was Doom who created Time Travel, not Iron Man, and thus he would be poised to succeed and realize he can't do it alone. He is Doom, but he also knows the plan must succeed and yes, he is Doom so at some point, when he Thanos Snaps returning the universe back to all those living people, it would be remade in Dooms Image. Don't tell me for a nanosecond you would not go to see that movie.
uh, you JUST described the original comic, doom sections had to be cut along with all mutant appearances.
The new Avengers 5 & 6 will be WILD I CANT WAIT ✊🏽✊🏽
Awesome!
*"You either die as a hero, or live long enough to become the villain." He did both... died as a hero and came back to be a villain.*
In typical RDJ fashion.
Doom finna kick the avengers ass in Doomsday 😎
I hope Marvel Ultimate Alliance-style 💪🏽
This sucks
I don’t know shit about him besides in the Fantastic 4 movie, why is he so strong? Is he Thanos level?
@emergencyawesome
I want SILVER SURFER back. Hes an awesome character
I remember that line way back that shits funny(“ dude playing the other dude playing the dude”)😂😂😂
Am i the only person NOT that excited about this?! Don't get me wrong, i love RDJ and all- but as Tony Stark, not Doom. Can we not just get new actors for new characters? i dunno...
No I'm sure there are dozens of people just like you who aren't excited about it. Like at least 24 people for sure.
I'm with you. Dooms my favorite villain in comics and having his debut in the MCU be just a Stark Variant feels hollow.
There's no build up at all currently for him as a villain so I feel like this is going to come across as a desperate move to try and get people excited.
I've been counting down the days to see him brought back and done well for once and I'll stay a bit skeptical till we get closer to the movies release.
definitely disappointing.. seems like MCU is going the rushed, desperate DC route.
Doom’s introduction is going to be him showing up and destroying the entire council of Kang with one crazy attack.
Or have a newspaper with the headline "Kangs detroyed by Doom" and don't show anything...lazy writing always wins.
Oh, yes. Please.
@@user-zq6sz2cr6g No, please, no. It's a terrible way to end the Kang storyline.
If true, this is by far the worst casting in MCU history. That would literally be like casting ANY already established character's actor to play a new character, its asinine. When you could have got some new, fresh blood into the franchise and the role. Who's going to be the next RDJ to keep the franchises going? If they keep doing dumb shit like this, they are going to completely stagnante the MCU, the Industry, and eventually all of Di$ney. This is the worst casting they could have come up with.
Deadpool: Disney bought him back, they're gonna make him do this till he's 90😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I’m not gonna lie. They should have casted someone much younger. I love Robert Downey but this isn’t it. They should have kept Kang and it feels like Doom’s storyline might be rushed. If he isn’t the main villain for black Panther 3, I’m gonna lose it.
I wouldn’t be able to take a younger Doctor Doom seriously
a younger Doctor Doom ? 😂 What is this a circus or what xDxDxD i agree RDJ won't fill in but age is not a factor.
He might start out as Doom then the real Doom appears later. Similar to the fake Mandarin plot.
No lol that's terrible 😂😂@@gary.s7759
How old RDJ? He's almost 60 YO! In 10 years he'll be 70. You want a 70 yo old man playing Dr Doom in the 3rd movie of the trilogy.
Dr doom is so powerful it's a shame he hasn't been apart of the mcu yet. At least tease him like they did with thanos for years
They couldn't bring him as long as the rights on the character lay with a different company. Then they already had plans in motion for Kang as the villain.
Now things have lined up.
It would have been nice to have seen Doom face some of the core Avengers. No more Iron Man, Captain America, hell no Black Panther.
One of my buddies summed it up best imo he said ‘the one who will end the MCU as we know it is the doppelgänger of the one who began it’ that was what completely changed my mind on this reveal, the story and character possibilities they can have with this such as how Peter Parker and Morgan will react to Doom plus I mean come on that reveal suit with the hood and mask looked so cool
Please don't screw up Dr Doom. Thanks Charlie
Well they just did. I question do ppl
Care about plot and characters or just seeing the same actors. Cause it seems like ppl just care about seeing the same actors and they happy. Deadpool 3 proves you don’t need a good story or direction. Yall go running over and over for useless cameos or to see an actor play a role for the 109th time like they can’t be played by anyone else
@@WawaMarvelum didn’t Jackman reprise his roll for the 46th time in deadpool 3?
@@WawaMarvelprobably because if they pick another actor for doom they might not fit that role
@@WawaMarvel Yeah the horror of happy people watching movies will never end. Can you imagine a happy audience? What moron wants that?
Theyre making it make sense tbh, who knows that they have been hinting since a while ago during Iron Man, especially its a multi universe kinda thang. Maybe he has been planned as Doom all the time :)
If it’s not a Tony Stark variant, I can’t get behind it. But I’m assuming that it will be. If he is a variant of him it will help me get over always seeing him as Tony stark because he will still be him albeit evil and doom. If not the entire time I’ll just be thinking “that’s Tony stark, he’s always Tony stark”. So I truly hope that becomes the case.
Thor sees Stark in his new role, “He’s a friend from work!”
RDJ is a good actor and has played many characters. This does not need to be an alternate Tony Stark becoming "Dr Doom". He is capable of playing Victor Von Doom. They can shave his facial hair, change his hairdo, give him an eastern-European accent, have him get scarred up and then wear the mask, then they put some Darth Vader-y electronic FX on his voice. He will disappear in the role and we won't think of him as Iron Man anymore. Maybe we won't even see him as regular unscarred Victor right away. This made me say, "WH-A-A-A-T????!?!!" at first, but I now think it'll be cool. I was super-skeptical about Chris Evans as Captain America, but he nailed it. His Cap was nothing like his Human Torch, obviously.
Why give him a fake accent when there’s actual Romani out there