Exposing TikTok's Largest MLM (from the inside)
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↠ If you made it all the way to the bottom of this description comment 'MLM 101' on this video!! - Розваги
oh i am too queer MLM man loving men did not think of pyramid scheme
That's exactly what I thought (Men Loving Men) and was quite surprised with the direction it took.
thats what i thought too
@ville__Bold of you to assume I want to live at all
@@4dgreentea no kys jokes, u are loved and deserve life❤️
I thought the same thing… I saw the thumbnail and was trying to figure out how the abbreviation made sense with rings lol 😂
You just showed the danger of mlms in the fact that even though you knew it was unethical you still felt all the dopamine from opening the package and doing the "party".
omg finally, thanks 👍
@ville__ had to come from a homophobe lol
LITERALLY.
And then had the gall to get her viewers interested in it. This is really irresponsible
Also I will say that tying a gambling mechanic to an MLM feels so dangerous to me. Gambling purposefully gives you that dopamine which is a great tool for trapping people in an MLM
Ooo this is a good POINT
I would argue it's basically legal adult gambling with a carnival style prize no matter what so you can tell yourself you didn't lose anything.
Yes! This is what the Pearl Party MLMs are, too. Gambling MLMs. Ugh.
Yeah this is loot boxes all over
Makes me think of the pearl party ladies.
Ordering something called a "Bomb Party" in the mail 😭
OMG this made me laugh so hard😂
Omg did not even occur to me
@@AlaynaJoyOfficialIKR?!!
And shipping it from the U$ to Canada.
my problem with mlms isnt that you Might not make your money back but the fact that statistically its almost impossible to make your money back by selling, only by signing up people under you so that THEY will be the ones with the bill. almost everyone loses everything
It is an ethical quandary. Maybe people should have to take some sort of ethics class as some part of basic education
@@snakesnoteyes I mean, as an ethicist, I’m always about the Full Employment for Ethicists Act (aka holy shit do we need to teach people ethics, and starting in like, grade school!), but - unless it was sarcasm - I’m not really sure how this is an ethical quandary?
Exactly, and I’m guessing she just… didn’t do the research? Because there’s no “you might make thousands of dollars, you might just make back the money you spent to buy in…” Statistically? Not happening - you’re just out more and more money monthly, until you finally pull the plug (and fight your way out).
@@khills it was sarcasm
@@snakesnoteyes See, this is why I’ve been arguing for years that we need a sarcasm font. 😉
EXPOSING AN MLM.......By accidentally joining one😅😅😂😂😂
Alayna, list the email address under "spam" and all those emails will automatically be sent to your spam folder. Out of sight, out of mind.
Thank youuuuu
@@AlaynaJoyOfficial you're welcome!
@@AlaynaJoyOfficial Nah, much better to report it before doing that. Help others not have to deal with the spam.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogleYES! I don't know about your laws, Alayna, but in Germany regular mailings are required by law to have an unsubscribe link (every single mail).
In any of the emails check for an unsubscribe option (sometimes the font is the same color as backgrounds or slightly off) also I know Gmail in the settings/preferences has an option to lookup and unsubscribe from email lists built it.
The amount of EXTREMELY smart people I have met that got caught up in MLMs is way more than I would have thought tbh. The right pitch and circumstances and anyone can fall for one. Gotta be extra vigilant.
If it has the whiff of “get rich quick” it’s a scam.
Nah, i can't, i have no money, no business interest and no ambition.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogle I just really really like your username
Dude, I almost got sucked into a meditation MLM at my university. No freaking joke! AND! They got us all to convince the university to foot the bill for the first "retreat". It was WILD. (It was called SKY Campus Happiness if anyone is curious)
My ex got hooked into an MLM back when we were married. She couldn't understand that I had a serious issue with the idea of TRYING TO PROFIT OFF OF OUR FRIENDS. Some of the products were actually useful, and I used them myself. Doesn't mean I'm okay with selling them for double what I paid to people I worked with (and had to see five days a week), and as for people I considered friends, if they had wanted any of that stuff, I'd have sold it to them at cost.
I won't say my reluctance to join in on the selling led to our divorce, but money problems absolutely did.
The only time it’s ok to profit off friends and family is if your kid is selling Girl Scout cookies or similar.
@khills yesssssss, send me ALLLLLL of the girl scout cookie order forms!!!!! I will buy at least 3 overpriced cookie boxes from every one of those sheets from friends and co-worker's kids lmao 🤣!!!
I have zero problem with that, but no MLMs lol
@@B.Harper7 Hah, exactly. I’ve had to explain to my non-American husband that, as a former Girl Scout, I am morally obliged to stop and buy at least a couple of boxes of cookies from every Scout troop I see. Doesn’t matter if we just bought them from a group tabling in another town, it is the payback I owe all of the people who bought cookies from me (and thus gave me opportunities I would have never otherwise had as a kid, like cool weeklong camping trips in the woods, or going to Disneyland!).
There is another fundamental issues with these products being a surprise, the person buying the bombs or rings not knowing what they are getting and potentially that item going to waste. We do not have endless resources for blind consumerism. While it can be fun and exciting to reveal it is a dangerous mindset to have on consumption.
The only one of these "surprise jewelry" things I ever actually liked was one with candles... because at least you get a nice candle and multiple hours of use out of it, and then the jewelry was like an extra little bonus in it, and they were actually mostly cute/pretty.
It's gambling.
The fact is though, selling the rings and showing them on TikTok IS harmful, because it is persuading people to buy the rings and then they get unknowingly sucked into an MLM. There’s probably quite a young audience on TikTok too who wouldn’t even know it’s an MLM and think they can make a job out of it. But yeah, I feel sorry for all of the people who’ve gotten sucked into it and are then desperately trying to sell them. It’s not an excuse to let others fall prey to the same scheme though. Glad you exposed this!
The way this MLM works is literally like gambling, trying the slot machine again and again until you get maybe what you wanted, thats why it's so easy to be pulled int it. I don't agree with saying the ring selling/parties are harmless, thats how they get you. You can't even buy one ring bomb, you have to have the starter pack AT LEAST and they actively try to sell you more, yeah srry Alayna I don't agree that even the ring selling is harmless.
I’ve never been happier than now when Alayna used my “mlm, more like wlw” dad joke from the patreon livestream in her video😂
Nope. Nope. Nope. The reason people join is because they think it is harmless. It is very harmful! Even if they hurt just one person, that is harm.
Girl, there is nothing good about MLMs, I’m sorry. We can recognize why they’re addictive, yes, but finding reasons why they’re not so bad, ehhh…
I'm just picturing Ashley, sitting there with that look on her face, like ... "I hate to say I told you so, but...." 😂
This!!! 😂😂😂
I totally get the intrigue. Theirs just better alternatives than an mlm that very obviously exploits vulnerable people. You can go to any store with kids toys and they sell bath-bombs with prizes inside. Just do that. I really don’t think it’s worth it especially because the consequences are so severe for many people
Yeah and even making your own. Making a bath bomb is so easy and cheap.
Glad that Alayna decided to tell us about her journey with accidentally getting into an MLM. The moment she talked about it on the chosen family pod I knew 'oh this won't be the last we will hear about this.'
Also unrelated: I'm curious now what Alayna's favorite pokémon is (from back in the day off course)
11:02
the issue with MLMs is that they target vulnerable demographics like young people who don’t have much life experience, immigrants, and moms, and get them hooked on this idea that if they just keep going they will succeed and they end up pouring more money into it and they never make anything back, about 98% of people in MLMs will lose money. it’s a really REALLY bad thing
I really love seeing a smart person openly talking about the steps of being taken in by something like this - people love to think they're immune to being manipulated and that people who are taken in are stupid, but these scams are designed to be inviting!
This LITERALLY reminds me of those candles that have surprise rings inside of them, that were insanely popular a few years ago. I've seen all kinds of bath bombs too but usually far bigger than these tiny little squares. There's so many jewellery surprise MLMs it's insane.
Hahaha yesssss the princess candles or some shit 🤣!!!!!!!!!
I remember that like.......8 years ago?
It's funny MLMs are still around, but slowly stopping. People are very aware and not afraid to tell their friends that they got sucked in, and then post about it to warn others.
I feel like at some point it's going to stop for 10 to 15 years, and then once the alpha babies are in high school, someone is going to try and get all of them sucked into it
I had an interview at an MLM (cutco lol) and didnt realize it was one, because i declined the job offer when i was told i was required to recruit people, and the social anxiety would have been too much for me 😂 i just went "this isnt the job for me, i dont have that skillset" and left, learning way later that theyre an MLM 😂
Pretty sure it's illegal to not include an unsubscribe link in marketing emails...
It is in Canada, but they don't have the same regulations in the States.
@@maddisonk88 I think it is in the US...the FTC requires it.
Correct. The CAN-SPAM act requires all commercial e-mail to include active and effective unsubscribe links, and if they do not, the FTC can level fines. If folks receive commercial emails that there's truly no way to opt out OR if you still get unwanted email 10 business days after opting out, tell the FTC.
It's cool for you to share this because a lot of people feel stupid for falling for one of these and you are an objectively super smart person who showed us she is not ashamed at all because that's what these companies are built for and they are the ones who should be ashamed.
I love the idea of helping people who are feeling stuck while wanting to get out of an MLM and then using that to auction for donation!
Be careful- you often don't actually "own" that inventory- when you sell it the proceeds go back through their system and you get a cut. If you dont sell it, sometimes you are on the hook for actually purchasing your own inventory
been waitin on this content since the pod lol
Hahah we on the patreon have been waiting even longer for this video😂
So, as far as your emails are concerned, a lot of times what they do is they highly unsubscribing in a text color that matches the background so that you can’t see it so they’re hidden so that you think that there isn’t an unsubscribe link so try highlighting the email looking for hidden links. If that doesn’t work, you can always do a Google search for how to locate hidden unsubscribe links in emails but from what I’m aware especially in the US and Canada. I believe they’re required to have some kind of unsubscribe link in the email if they do it shady and hide it so that it’s there you just can’t see It.
I was once at a certain MLM's conference (for work reasons, not voluntarily haha) and i can confirm that they're cults. People were giving testimonials like at charismatic churches and the key speakers were like pastors riling people up. It was crazy.
Knowing how hard it can be to leave an MLM, I’m concerned about that $20 a month 😂
MLM, Multi-Level Madness!
Is your pfp inspired by The Owl House? It’s awesome lmao.
@ville__ You are getting reported.
@@Imakmsbro It is! Thanks
Alayna if you still have your Pokémon cards you should ABSOLUTELY show them off omg
15:48 I think if you block the contact email you shouldn't receive more of their emails
My mother tried to get me and my wife involved in a vitamin MLM. She offered to pay all of the costs. I refused. I've never enjoyed selling anything and I surely wasn't going to get involved in a MLM ... frankly, I didn't want my name associated with it at all. I'm not sure she understood ... at least until it was obvious that it wasn't ever going to make any of her family any money. I refrained from any 'I told you so'-s ... partly because I don't operate that way but mostly I didn't want to give it enough thought to let it occupy any space in my already busy mind.
The structure behind the mlm is the issue. MLM 101.
Were the ladies in that promotional material hugging? It was saying stuff about family and I was like "it is queer! Those women are married!" But now it occurs to me that maybe hugging your bff like that is a family value for southern straights 😂
did not know MLMs where still legal in the US.... somehow it doesnt surprise me.
Listen to the podcast The Dream to learn about how fucking bad the MLM situation is in the U.S.
Everything went wrong so fast 😂😂
If you like the surprise of the ring there are other companies that sell similar things like Fragrant Jewels. No MLM sign up required
The charity auction livestream was epic, in spirits as much as in duration.
Hahah omg it was want it!😂
I'm so happy to see in the comment section that I'm not the only person who though MLM meant Men loving men. I was quite excited to see what you were going to say or show about MLM, it being very gay but not including women.
Great points were made, and I also just wanted to add that there's harm from this kind of business in the sketchy sourcing and manufacturing. Who knows how the metals and gems were mined or how the rings were made--probably not in an ethical way for the workers or the planet. And this low-quality high-quantity collectors' business model encourages overproduction and overconsumption of these rings people might not even like, mainly just for the excitement of the fizzy reveal and the chance to collect them for collection's sake
Really enjoyed the deep dive! My other concern too, that I'm not sure if it's disclosed within the company, is where is the jewelry made? If it has stones, where did the stones get collected from? A lot of stones found in jewelry are unethically sourced especially diamonds. Especially if I see a cheap piece of mass produced jewelry then I have major concerns.
Diamonds?! 😂 those aren’t diamonds. They are likely all lab created.
I appreciated this and felt validated for my dark pre-gay awareness stint 15 years ago where I was in a boring , dead-end job and got stopped on the street by someone i didn't know how to say no to and eventually spent an obscene amount of money on Mary Kay makeup. It took me years to pay it off.
Lotto mixed with MLM... pressing all the buttons.
If you want a similar type of fun that isn’t an MLM or a scam, I recommend getting candles or bathbombs from Fragrant Jewels. I’ve been ordering from them for a few months and have had such a good experience I signed up for their monthly box (first time I’ve done a box subscription). They have lots of items on sale and these end up being around the same price as full price candles and bathbombs from Target (except these have fun rings in them). 😃 They’re hand poured in Cali upon order if I remember right, so they take a couple weeks to ship, but I really love them!
OMG no! Another commenter and I were just talking about this brand and another one of them!!!
They are definitely an MLM if you look into them and you can become a distributor.
the real ones were on the livestream
Everyone had some sick burns for these ugly rings and I was living
Also from livestream 🤚🏻 we had way too much fun with the rainbow wishes fizz bombs 😂
🙋
Alayna has taken the the red pill, stayed in Wonderland and is seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes...
Honestly this needs to be an experience for Isabella Lanter to cover because it’s even more insane to see it from this perspective ❤
Just want to point out that this is dangerous for people with gambling addictions, because it doesn't immediately seem like gambling on the surface (I mean specifically the ring bomb mlm and others like it, not mlms in general)
Great video red flag when a company ask you to pay them to work for them I mad that mistake ones but you live and learn
I think reimbursing someone and auctioning the rings off would be a decent way to bring awareness while trying to help out.
Were we supposed to not join the MLM or...? I don't think you were very clear on your stance.
The problem people don't understand about pyramid schemes and MLMs is that you have to KEEP selling to stay on top of the fees. Sure, it feels great when you get buyers from your friends and family around you, but that well dries up quickly, especially if you roped one of them into the scheme. The founders get to reap the real benefits because they just have to resell cheap wares and collect fees from those below them. You, as a seller, can never outpace the costs. You'll eventually dry up all your clients and you'll slowly go into debt with fees and the demand to keep your wares up to date. Even the biggest sellers end up losing everything... or end up becoming their own con artist.
Lastly, I don't care if the founder is queer. Fuck MLMs. They're just pyramid schemes with a new name. All they do is hurt vulnerable people.
I'm so glad you mentioned pokemon and Magic the gathering, because it seems exactly like that, but with the bad mlm element attached to it. The dopamine from opening blind "booster packs" where you get a "chance" at *maybe something good*. Even to the point of the different levels of packs, which is ridiculously expensive for some cardboard 😢
I too am stuck watching people open lots of expensive booster boxes 😂
MLM's are honestly a plague on society and I do feel sorry for the ones that truly thought they had a chance and learn the really hard way. I love the idea you had though to donate the ring proceeds to charity 💜
You can report the emails as spam/junk and report the email address to stop seeing the emails.
Anti MLM content from Alayna? yay
When I saw the title "MLM" I was like why is Alayna talking about BL / YAOI on her channel ;)
I deleted TikTok 4 months ago, but as a geology nerd, these TikTok’s always got under my skin. The rings are nearly never worth more than $20 and they always claim their worth like $300
It’s a scam not because they sell probably cheap rings but because they make money from recruiting people to join
Do lead tests, most of these mlms cheap out to the point of selling dangerous items, it may seem harmless if people enjoy the jewelry and experience, but they are almost certainly selling you lead/heavy metals that are toxic
I haven't even started fizzing yet 🤣
i loved the bath bombs rings Alayna phase tho 😭😭😭😭
I didn’t have a _good_ look at the contents of your ‘starter kit’ but I’m pretty sure if you price up 6 bath bombs, 6 paist rings, a plastic vegetable spoon & some packaging/leaflets, it doesn’t come close to what you paid for it, so you have kind of qualified yourself to be taken in by the MLM by buying it in the first place.
Superb editing *chefs kiss* Love the concept of this video, I think I would watch you review anything in this way
I loved the storytelling in this one, very fun to watch ❤️
alayna having a mtg phase makes so much sense
I’m loving investigative journalism Alayna
So its a wlw mlm
Unfortunately, I’ve been involved in two MLM’s, and this is giving me so much anxiety 😬 😂
Still waiting for a houseplant tour video ❤️😅❤️🪴
Mlm’s are so crazy… and in more than one ways dangerous for a whole group of people.
Love your content miss fenderr 🧡
This made my Friday! Been waiting on the update 😅
OMG finally the fizz bomb video we've all been waiting for!!
Been waiting for this one 😊
been looking forward to this since that pod episode
This is what has been missing from all of the anti MLM content I've consumed - someone actually signing up and buying the stuff and showing you how crappy it is and also talking about why it is appealing. It's not as black and white as "it's all bad".. MLMs are definitely unethical but wanting pretty shiny things and to have fun unboxing things with other people isn't inherently unethical.. it's just a shame the only way to do it is through companies who use an unethical business model.
I love the idea of you buying more of these from people who can't shift them! I know a lot of MLMs have rules where you can't sell the stock you've bought outside of the MLM model (on Craigslist or eBay etc.) but I don't think that would apply to people who have quit the MLM but still have a bunch of the stock.
hay love you chosen family pod.... i couldnt wait for this vid.... also i wanna say i am behind u in my education process im doing pyschology undergrad and watching your jurney giving me everything maybe one day well both be helping so many
I have been WAITING for this video after hearing about it on chosen family and watching some of the live stream
Okay but now that this is all over my FYP and I'm hooked I need more details on this from you hahah Canadian to Canadian and EXPOSE THEM !!!
You said "Picture This..." And instantly the song by Blondie sprang into my head.💘
You just described me almost to a T, a 34 year old, being a full-time student, downloading TikTok for new first time. The way you stumbled on it, that was my experience.
I may or may not have been getting joy from purchasing from an MLM, and seriously considering joining because I want to pay less for the jewelry 😅
I had a great time during the livestream and I wear my ring all the time. I don't support MLMs but I do support Alayna! ❤❤❤
Only two minutes in and this is a new feel for an Alayna video. Like the editing style and all that. Perfect for this type of video though haha
omg i was at that livestream but i joined late and was SO confused. i'm so happy i finally have context for it 😂
It reminds me of slavoj zizek, he has a beautiful rant on kinder suprises. This is so similar, an hollow object, you want to see what it reveals, but it never fullfills your desire, just makes you want to consume another. Great video, thanks for making it
Great idea! You are brilliant. ❤❤❤
i was in this mlm it was a nightmare. i was chased out when my aunt and I was making more money then our upline so the upline ran us out. bullied us out is more like it. edited to add: we joined when there was just 10 of us in it.
Honestly this is so wasteful, all this shipping, packaging, products and extra things you can buy. All for these so called ugly rings that are fun to watch being revealed..? This is consumerism at its finest and it’s sad to see influencers that you think/hope are responsible not seeing the issue with buying, promoting or engaging in this kind of consumerism that is hurting our planet 🌎 I get wanting to wind down after a tough week but there is just so much better things to do to relax and have fun. But I guess in the end it’s all about wanting to create content that generates money. All these products being produced and sold are literally destroying our environment and only home :(
blaming an individual for their packaging waste, something small, takes focus away from the real problem: the large corporations that severely cause environmental damage, for example the majority of carbon emissions
Ok I get what you are saying… but she’s actively saying she isn’t proud of anything in this video except for the 1000 dollars raised for charity. I bet you also fly on planes to your holiday or do other things that hurt our planet. 🤷
@@stephanielastname8271exactly!!!!
Hmm, I think we have to take individual responsibility as well, and saying “but I bet you fly once a year” isn’t the right attitude. MLMs and the people who promote them (knowingly or unknowingly) are doing harm on multiple levels. I think that’s okay to call out.
Also I don’t think the original poster was placing blame on Alayna. She’s talking about this type of consumerism as a whole.
Such an obscure hobby. Love it!
Ever heard of Fragrant Jewels? They sell CUTE bath bombs and candles with jewelry in them. No MLM involved. 😅
Love how you try to find loopholes😂
I am amazed how you still continue to singe "vitally important produces" :D that is so cute and weird at the same time :D
omg Im so glad I stumbled on to this video!! The BP tiktok lives have taken over my fyp !!
"Picture it, Sicily, 1912"
I just couldn't help myself when u said picture it
Recently a new “cafe” opened up near me. I went to check it out because I like to support small business but it turns out it was a Herbalife cafe that didn’t advertise it was part of that MLM anywhere on purpose. I already ordered the drink and gave her my number for her “system” before I noticed the labels on the products across the counter. Charged me 8 dollars for their 1 size of tea and even tho I gave her a small cash tip I noticed my card was charged 8.50 but when I checked out I only approved 8.00 even, she tipped herself 50 cents and who knows how often she does that and people don’t notice. I couldn’t even drink more than two sips of the tea it just tasted like collagen so strong it was so disgusting
MLM 101
I have literally never seen this on TikTok even still and that cracks me up
It was such a fun livestream!!
Buying product frim people who have been taken advantage of is such a good idea, you could do a segment on their story and then auctioning the items for charities. It would get the word out, and raise money for good!
I have been waiting for this lolol
Alayna: for anyone who is possibly on the fence about whether this is an MLM
Also Alayna: I'm still on the fence! 😂