Peter Jackson is back? LotR: Hunt for Gollum coming in 2026 - News & some Speculation
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Andy Serkis, Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens will make new LotR related films. First one has the working title "Hunt for Gollum" and will be directed by Andy Serkis. PJ, Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens will be producers and work on the screenplay with Phoebe Gittins and Arty Papageorgiou.
Gittins and Papageorgiou are also the screen writers for The Lord of the Rings: War of the Rohirrim and will work The Lord of the Rings: Hunt for Gollum (work title) as well.
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I'm tired and need to sleep now. I will answer comments later 😅 There might be some mistakes. Video took longer to make than I anticipated and also got longer then planned. I still hope you found it interesting. Shout-outs to Jenny Dolfen, I used one of her art works in the video. Her gallery and also the articles should all be linked in the description - as always.
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It's tough. I tried my best. :) This is just such a horrible idea.
Sleep well !
I really still like the first Hobbit movie and especially the Gollum scenes, I am honestly optimistic, at least these showrunners respect Tolkien.
Same, I like the first Hobbit film as well. I also hope they can deliver something good.
If they respected Tolkien, they would not make movies out of nothing.
2 lines in the books. They gonna make multiples movies out of it.
How faithful to the source material do you think it will be?
@@Stephen64138
"2 lines?" About Gollum?
I posted a timeline of Gollum's activities from Bilbo finding the Ring in 3941 to Gollum escaping the Woodland Elves in 2017. He is constantly moving for most of those 77 years. I am sure they can figure out creative encounters for Gollum besides Shelob, Sauron, Aragorn, Thranduil and Legolas.
If its anywhere near as good as the Gollum game, this could become a true modern classic! Thank you, Warner Bros!
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True modern classic! lol
Always love your videos and your pronunciation
Thank you ^^
@@ThePhilosophersGames
I think you have the best pronunciation of all the Tolkien UA-camrs.😁
I can’t wait
I can critically judge any Tolkien adaptation. They all get some things right and some thing wrong. As an armature Tolkien artist, I understand my vision will never match someone else’s and would hope that they wouldn’t hate it even if might be a little off in their mind. I’m excited to see, hear, or experience anyone’s Tolkien art done with love. As Chris says, even the Gollum game and ROP had some good points despite their many shortcomings. I really believe more is better. I’ll take a bunch of silly Star Wars shows just to get the genius of Andor. If we have to endure some so/so Tolkien adaptation just to get to something brilliant, I’m ok with it. Gollum is not my favorite character but would LOVE to see Andy & PJ back in Middle Earth. Enough of the “no one wants this” comments. Speak for yourselves!
These "no one wants this" comments make no sense. All it means is the poster doesn't want this. That's fine if they don't want it but they, just like you and I, really have no idea at this point what the overall audience will make of this. I've pointed this out in another fandom as before 1977, people were not clamoring for Star Wars but that changed fast enough.
The other comment that is nonsensical is that this is unnecessary. That's completely irrelevant. There's no such thing as a necessary movie; we managed well enough before there was such a thing as movies.
Nice post.😁👍
If they focus on the hunters and only the necessary Gollum scenes, it will be a great addition between the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. Extended editions tends to make more sense, and set things right. I await extended edition of Rings of Power season 1, giving sense to the story, and I am cautiously excited for the coming seasons. The tools for creating, producing, and distributing are much greater today. It will be good.
Peter Jackson returning as producer/director is a very good thing. Boyens and Walsh working on screenplay is terrifying
Have good sleep Chris. Hope this is good, it cant be worse than rings of power. I hope it is at least in the vision of Tolkien. I mean it was not so clear as what happened other than Aragorn capture him and drop him off in care of Thranduil . So if this is at least we will see some characters we would be fleshed out a bit better.😁
Unfortunately, "in the vision of Tolkien" means different things to different people with different motives. Payne and McKay, show runners for TRoP, think they are writing a script "in the vision of Tolkien."
Appreciate your perspective, thank you.
I think people are just 'down' on Gollum at the moment because of the game, which I'm doubtful that PJ, Fran Walsh & Philippa Boyens had even heard of if I'm honest. I personally think it's a wise route to go. It has close relation to and will tie in with the Hobbit and LotR, as well as have recognisable characters and places for the wider, mainstream audience. This will increase its likelihood of being financially successful. I don’t think characterising it as a "cash grab" is helpful; the film needs to make money otherwise it's likely we won't get any more in the future or at least have to wait 10+ years again because studios are scared of touching the property again.
As someone else said, the Gollum scenes were the best thing in an Unexpected Journey (also incidentally the best Hobbit film overall), so I'm hopeful.
You really think he had not heard of a Game that is called same as the movie they want to make? That noone mentioned anything? :D Yeah, sure...
@@fpvx3922 The idea for the film was probably tabled before the game even entered production mate.
I HOPE PJ is back! I do not blame him for the Hpbbit movies
Yes fair point, he had to jump in as director last minute.
The most that can be said about rings of power is it is the most expensive fan fiction ever.
you are not wrong 😂
That Jackson and Co are being brought in to oversee this is excellent news. The biggest issue to my mind is will the studio meddle like they did with the Hobbit movies (which IMHO was the reason for most of the problems with them) or will they take a more hands off approach as they did with LOTR. The hunt for Gollum is certainly not my first choice for the storyline of a new movie but done right this could be interesting. I strongly suspect the focus will be on Gandalf and Aragorn, not Gollum. Recasting the characters will be a perilous exercise; I think I prefer bringing back the original cast and using de-aging technology.
No A.I.-CGI overdose, please!!!🙏😞
I agree.
@Enerdhil, I understand your reluctance, but I honestly think Weta is the one FX house in the world, maybe, that can pull off de-aging at the level that would be required here.
It has been written about the _Avatar_ films that the main animation unit can only finish the process up to a certain point - with that point, alas, firmly in the "Uncanny Valley". Not good enough.
Then they send the "finished" sequences to Weta.
And Weta - somebody at Weta - "finishes" them. And after that, they are "alive". Or at least far enough up the other side of that Valley that even some really questionable script choices did nothing to impede the billions.
My point is, Weta has somebody - a small team, maybe, publicity-shy for whatever reason, or just some anonymous genius hiding out on the bottom of the world - who can, in cinematic terms, do miracles, things that shouldn't be possible. I think solving the de-aging problem, completely, forever, to 8K resolution, is in play here. It's not a given. It could suck like 60fps sucked. But it *is* in their wheelhouse.
@@donweatherwax9318
I feel a little bit better about it, but I am sure they will CGI-to-death Gollum being chased by Orcs as he tries to escape the mountain. It will be another video game in the mountain scene.😞
@@donweatherwax9318
Moreover, if the technology is that good, and the faces of the characters look like real actors' faces, then the acting profession is in trouble. I guess I should brace myself for the Age of Dehumanization.😞
*I for one welcome our new CGI overlords*
If they show Sauron gaining power in Mordor they can also show Gondor's decline, Ecthelion, Denethor (maybe they can give him a little arc to explain how he became what we see in the first trilogy), and if they're really bold they can try go full Shadow of War and have the Nazgûl conquer Minas Ithil (though I hope they won't. I think Minas Ithil should be a place that had evil powers dwell in it for many years and not like 'yea, my grandpa lived here').
I would certainly hope they don't include the fall of Minas Ithil as that happened a thousand years before the hunt for Gollum.
The time window for a movie about hunting Gollum is from 2941 (when Bilbo found the One Ring) to 2917 (when Gollum escapes out of the Woodland Realm). So, a lot of other stories can be covered during that time, but all should tie to Gollum, even when he is not in the scene.
Supposedly Gollum will be struggling with his identity.
Ofc he does, he is Gollum/Sméagol 😅
@@ThePhilosophersGames Indeed. He's already been doing that for centuries.
You mean struggling with his "identities." The dude is schizophrenic.🥺😠
I'd rather have a complete recast. I don't like CGI-chars or making actors young with AI-CGI. Yes, Viggo Mortenson and Ian McKellen did epic jobs. But find new actors, who also maybe have a future. Remember when Dumbledore was recast, we thought it impossiblr, but the new Dumbledore worked great.
Also, keep in mind, when some actors were cast of the LotR trilogy, it was nothing like many of us book fans had imagined Aragorn or Frodo or whoever. Just don't "necromance" old actors and give competent new one's a chance. That's just my 2 cents.
As what to think, I am open minded and will have no positive or negative expectations until I see more.
Yes agree. They should definitely recast if needed and give a new generation a chance.
My body isn’t ready for this 😂 but I’m excited for more wood elves and possibly Shelob too. I actually agree with you on casting new actors for the roles and trying something new instead of the old formula. Not sure if it was for the Hobbit movies or RoP where they mentioned Guillermo Del Toro would direct. Sadly it never happened but I would have been really interested in what he could’ve brought to the table. So I’m hoping for something different.
He was supposed to direct the Hobbit films, but left the project and PJ had to jump in lat minute.
Yes I'm curious what they will do with this and how they will solve the "casting" problem
The Hobbit films are still better and more fun to watch than most movies since.
What i meant. My horrible English. I would be very nice to see what happen or speculate what happen at this time. Done well, could be very entertaining and great nod to Tolkein.
Your English is fine.😁👍 Keep posting!
Here is the timeline for Gollum between Bilbo finding the One Ring and Gollum being imprisoned in the Woodland Realm:
2941 Bilbo meets Gollum and finds the Ring.
2951 Gollum turns towards Mordor.
2980 About this time Gollum reaches the confines of Mordor and becomes acquainted with Shelob.🕷️
3001 Gandalf seeks for news of Gollum and calls on the help of Aragorn.
3009 Gandalf and Aragorn renew their hunt for Gollum at intervals during the next eight years, searching in the vales of Anduin, Mirkwood, and Rhovanion to the confines of Mordor.
3009-3017 At some time during these years, Gollum himself ventured into Mordor, and was captured by Sauron.
3017 Gollum is released from Mordor. He is taken by Aragorn in the Dead Marshes, and brought to Thranduil in Mirkwood.
I think there will also be a few episodes from Sméagol's life, in flashbacks, maybe.
There are stories to tell. His centuries of wandering and exile have lots of crazy adventures.
It has been speculated that Tolkien originally had some hazy concept that Gollum might have tracked "Baggins" to the Shire to get the Ring back from Bilbo. (As one would, right? Especially since Gollum was born a Hobbit himself, from a group of Stoor war refugees who would hardly have forgotten that the rest of the Hobbits were still living on the other side of the Misty Mountains.) I guess then Gollum would somehow blunder into the Shire; fail to kill Bilbo or reclaim the One Ring; and also somehow cause the death of Frodo's parents - thus explaining why Bilbo felt such a fatherly sense of obligation to his young cousin. The whole idea is so bizarre (although it would explain the weird way that Frodo's parents died).
I actually think you could find some interesting stories from the early days, as Sméagol. His early days as a young Stoor psychopath in the Gladden Fields, protected by his powerful family connections . . . his shady "friendship" with Déagol . . . completely surrendering to the whole Ring-temptation thing, and using the Ring's invisibility to cause havoc . . . until his grandmother, the family patriarch, finally rises to her duty and turns him out - banishing her own flesh and blood.
And he obeys, and leaves Hobbit society, all society, forever; goes out voluntarily into his interminable, desperately lonely exile. Why?
I have to admit, if they could somehow do it justice, I honestly wouldn't mind learning the answer to that question. If they could come up with a good Michael Martinez-style speculative take on how this group of matriarchal petty-Stoors might have lived . . .
One can dream.
@@donweatherwax9318
I don't think Peter Jackson will redo anything he has already shown in his film trilogy. I think it would be great if he did show more of Sméagol's life before the Ring and after he kills Déagol, but I doubt this will really be a Gollum movie.
@@donweatherwax9318
Very interesting take.😁👍
Hi Chris. Can you analyse rings of power teaser today? Going live?
Yes I will produce something, when the teaser comes out. Either live or as VoD.
Something I'm not counting on but would love is the opportunity to go a bit darker and show how nasty a creature Gollum really was. I get the appeal of showing the width if a character developing over time, but disagree with the cutesifying that has been occurring.
Well, we should see Shelob meeting Gollum in the film somewhere. That could be epic, especially if she wraps him up in a web for Orcs to carry him to Sauron.🕷️
The Hunt for Gollum was already super successful as a Computer Game. Maybe we will praise Rings of Power after all in 2026 :D
peter owns weta so it would make sense they would be involved.
LEts hope so, i think Amazon will most likely use their money in it?
It's I think independent of what Amazon is doing. It's made by Warner Bros. through New Line Cinema
The main question is - it it live action or Unreal Engine and motion capture.
Using UE they can have the classic characters from LotR and they will not be 20 years older or no longer with us.
I would assume it will be Live Action (except for Gollum). Ofc tech is kind of there, but would be surprised if they would make a film this CGI heavy.
@@ThePhilosophersGames
The overuse of CGI killed The Hobbit movies.😞
@@ThePhilosophersGames But then how do Aragorn and co look the younger than in LotR? And Saruman is dead. All I can say here is, it does not say "Live action movie" and that's why I am wondering
@@Enerdhil People who only wanted an 80 minute, funny film, with talking animals ruined them by whinging. Lots of CGI was forced on them to save money.
However, I think the Pale Orc is one of the best CGI characters I have ever seen on screen. You could never have achieved that with a costume only.
I think they will find younger actors to portray certain roles + maybe add some cameos.
the gollum game cost 15m to make 😭
it sound much, but for a "AA" game, that is actually quite cheap.
@@ThePhilosophersGames i just mean in the sense that its no indie game budget
I'm fairly optimistic and glad that they didn't pick one of the weaker old ideas like "Adventures of young Aragorn".
I think Aragorn's life as a ranger would be more interesting. At least with Aragorn there would be the story of him coming into his own, partly through the tutelage of Elrond, as well as the story of the how he and Arwen fall in love. A classic story type: the Bildungsroman. In contrast, I just can't wrap my head around how the hunt for Gollum would make for a stand-alone story arc at all...
But why do you need any of that? How is any of this off the scene insignificant stuff necessary whatsoever?
When we adapt Romeo and Juliet, do we need to do a trilogy about their childhood, seeing them play in the sandbox for 3x 2 hours and a half... ? We know the story of Aragorn and Arwen. We had 9+ hours of movie about them.
It's just insane. It's like addict people. Wanting the same stuff over and over again, trying to feel the shot.
@@Stephen64138 To be clear, I don't. I'm highly skeptical. The whole idea of mining bits of lore from the LOTR trilogy for more movies makes me roll my eyes, though I'm cautiously optimistic about The War of the Rohirrim. I really feel like Jackson and co. are doing themselves an injustice by trying to relive past glories. All I was saying was that if they're going to mine LOTR for more movies, the hunt for Gollum is a really weird choice. It's obviously driven more by 'branding' concerns - the recognizability of Gollum as a character design - than by story concerns. In regards to rabid Tolkien fans like me, this kind of stuff feels like it's exploiting the wish most of us have for ever more detail about all corners of his Legendarium. But what we really wish for is more of *his* writing, not so much other people's speculative extensions.
@@semiote Ok with most of that. But again, why is it that most of **you** want for ever more insignificant and mondain details of his lore?
Who cares about the exact traject Aragorn followed in his hunt for Gollum? Who cares what plants Radagast is smoking? Who cares of Legolas relationship with his dad? Who cares of the imaginary adventures of Helm Hammerhand??
You already had all of this insignificant stuff in 9+ hours of the Hobbit trilogy. There is nothing of value I remember from these movies. Nothing.
You want to make a 90 minutes animation movie of the War of the Rohirrim or something every 15 years..? Ok, whatever. But more than that? MUCH more than that? This is nonsense.
And you know what? Tolkien would not have approved. And I agree with him.
Desecrating his work and forgetting about european values for a quick hollywoodian cashgrab? I will play no part in that.
@@Stephen64138 I suppose because Tolkien was quite good at sketching an interesting story in outline to serve as background details to his main narrative. The story of Aragorn's youth is like this. It isn't just 'lore' but like someone who's a good storyteller giving you a brief glimpse of a story to whet your appetite for the full version.
Further, historically, many of the bits and pieces he alluded to in LOTR were actually taken from well-worked out stories that were only published later by his son. So when these texts finally began to be published, it set up the sense and expectation that many of these only briefly sketched narratives had longer versions that were well worth reading on their own merits. For decades, more and more of these have come out. So it's natural for a Tolkien fan who's lived through that period to continue being curious.
But as I said, if Tolkien himself didn't write the story, I'm much less curious, though I *am* curious. Often, we get forgettable simulacra, but there's always the possibility of someone who's a good storyteller in their own right making something interesting.
Errrr! Errr! Eh!
Restart
I am very sceptical about the story they want to adapt. What is so interesting about the hunt for Gollum that it warrants its own movie?
The hunt for Gollum connects the Hobbit with the Lord of the Rings and it makes for a completing elelement in the narrative. It's rather meaningless without the context of the LotR novel.
Well, Black Elves where not in the category of "people are special if a character does not look exactly like in the books". Elves were always pale with blonde hair until different IPs (!!!!) brought Dark Elves, etc... And I think to change that after 80 years qualifies for people being upset, because it was not introduced for the benefit of the story, but to make a point with real world politics". I think in such a lovely crafted world, real world politics have no right to be.
But the topic that the actor playing Arondir is not white in Rings of Power, is not discussed in the show at all and Cordova is a good actor, I really liked his performance in the show; I can believe that he was convincing in the casting. He is a Silvan Elf like all other Silvan Elves inside the world, the only difference is the actor is not white, but inside the world that seems not to be the case. It's also not his fault that the screenplay was terrible and that is imo the biggest problem with the show. If the plot would actually be written well, make sense and not contradict what Tolkien wrote, for all I care all Elves could look they the Dudes from the Blue Man Group.
I also hear nobody complain about that Eldendil, Isldur, Aragorn, Boromior, Fraramir, etc having no beards or that Frodo in LotR is 50 years old not 18 (same with Bilbo in The Hobbit). Or that Eldendil is 8' 3" (2.51 m) tall and would dwarf all NBA players who have ever lived or Galadriel is over 6' 3" (1.90 m). Gil-galad had also silver not black hair. Gandalf's pointed hat is blue, not grey (quote from LotR (The Hobbit has almost the excat same quote): "He [Gandalf] wore a tall pointed blue hat, a long grey cloak, and a silver scarf."). Like the depiction of characters is wrong all the time and imo it's also not that big of a problem. They can take their freedom with costumes and looks. As long as the writing is good.
I agree that Ismael did a great job of playing an elf. At first, I thought he was a DEI hire, but then I realized he played an elf better than any of the other actors. He was the best choice.
@@ThePhilosophersGames I did not complain about the actor, or their color... Sophia Nomvete played a loving dwarven wife. I am complaining about the break of Canon as I have known it for 40+ years (I read it at 10) and throughout all my gaming history since then. I think it breaks immersion, when people can just look random, when Tolkien had chosen appearances very careful.
How about making a movie about Tom Bombadill or Ghan-buri-ghan and the other countless of characters brutally ripped from the script instead of going into something that Tolkien barely wrote about. Even if there's tons of updated information that wasn't in the LOTR books, it just sounds like money grabbing and dragging this guys name in the dirt even more after the horrible crime against fiction that is "rings of power" ME UNHAPPY.
Sounds strange, but those 2 would be too mythological I think. To this day people say Tolkien could have left the Old Forest and Tom Bombadil chapters out in the book, even though people like the character. I fully understand why Tom was left out by PJ in LotR. Gollum is in my opinion an interesting character, if an actor is able to play him and carry a film. And when there is one person who can do that, it's Andy Serkis. Esp. Gollum with the tech of the 2020s might looks impressive. Gandalf tells us a bit about Gollum during the council + few sentences from Appendix B. I think Unfinished Tales also has a bit of information, but they might not be allowed to use that.
I think we have to wait and see if Warner Brothers has a strict DEI-Intersectionality quota system or not. Amazon Prime Video does and that is why we had to endure cringy warrior-she-boss Galadriel for about 30% of screen time.😞 It was the only way to get 50% of screen-time for women characters.
My fear is that we might end up with a Gollum who is an old, evil hag, or an Aragornwen, the feminist Ranger-tracker of the North, or maybe a transmale Sauron.😞😞😞
For Eru's sake, this is a bad news
In what world do we need a movie out of one line in the book?
Gandalf sent Aragorn to look out for Gollum. ... Sure, ok. We need a movie out of _that_ ? I don't.
to be fait I expected a bit more optimism in my comment section 😅 Not sure if it's bad, as said could be OK films again. I don't expect a revolution like the first 3 LotR films again, but let's see what Andy Serkis can do as director.
@Stephen64138
I tried to explain it in the video. We live in age of massive media production. Thousands of media productions (books, games, films, comics/manga, series, music, etc) are trying to compete for our attention. The LotR films came out 20+ years ago, that's a generation. Tolkien died 1973; at 2nd September 2024, that would be 51 years ago. He can't write new books anymore, but his books are still awesome. So it helps if there are new adaptions, that potentially bring new (younger) people into the fandom. They might even start reading the books. I started reading the books because PJ made LotR films 20+ years ago. But at some point those classics can be considered old films. For Fellowship of the Ring the production started in the late 90s; that's quarter a century ago. The films are still good, but they are old. And there will be new LotR adaptions at some point. Even PJ was not the first trying to make a LotR movie (though he was the most successful in doing so).
So I don't get this statement. Yes technically we don't need new films. We also don't need PJ's LotR films or the one from Ralph Bakshi. We have the books. But did PJ's film to bring LotR to an even wider audience and helped selling some books? Yes it for sure did. And there is always potential that future adaptions can do the same.
@@ThePhilosophersGames Do we need to adapt the Lord of the Rings again and again? While there are thousands of work of fantasy litterature out there who deserve to be adapted?
And what exactly are we talking to adapt here?
Seems to me that you and I are talking about the Lord of the Rings and it's new adaptation at some point in time while in REALITY, what's adapted are the Woke of the Rings of Power by AmazonPrime, before that, the desastrous Hobbit Trilogy that litterally no one like. (What's the last time you heard someone praising this trilogy?), and now the upcoming Hunt for -money- Gollum 6 movies adventures based on thin air.
What is it exactly that they'll adapt? A line into a trilogy?
This is RIDICULOUS. Tolkien would not have appreciated nor sanctioned and neither will I. This is a terrible Idea and I'll stick to it until it appears as so or until reality proves me wrong. But I now have 20 years of bad movies and adaptations to back up my realism...
@@Stephen64138
Wow! And I thought "I" was jaded.😅
I don't understand the hype. I mean, do anyone here have seen the Hobbit trilogy? Because I have.
I was hyped AF waiting for an unexpected journey back then. Probably watched the trailer a hundred times. Went to the theater by myself to experience again the LOTR from my youth. ... ... And it was GARBAGE.
And I was so disapointed, it was the reason I stopped going to the theater. So, again, I don''t understand the hype..
Oh that is sad to hear, that your experience was this bad. I have to admit the first Hobbit film was still OK for me; it had its weaknesses for sure. Felt the 2nd film was very strange, because it was so different from the book, with so many weird ideas, etc. Considering that PJ had to jump in last minute to take over the project, it almost a miracle and ofc I knew that The Hobbit is very different book compared to LotR and so the tone of the film is quite different.
@@ThePhilosophersGames In itself the first movie is good. The problem is, it leaches CONSTANTLY on the lord of the rings. It references it way more than it should and PJ and the studios try as much as they can to make sure you link the two (lotr and the hobbit) in your mind. .. Therefore I have no choice but to hold the two to the same level of expectancies.
And by that measure, the Hobbit trilogy is garbage. From the second minute of the first movie to the last minute of the third.
Why would they waste time on a GOLLUM MOVIE? WE WANT THE FIRST AND SECOND AGE FILMS
They can't made anything about this period, nobody has rights to them beside Tolkien Estate. Amazon is using only appendixes from ROTK
@@annatar9365 So why make this moviem totaly unwanted and unnecessary
@@IceSick88 the real reason is probably so non books fans can have something new
@@IceSick88No, YOU don't want it. This "I want I want" attitude, no matter how many times they're told about adaptation rights, makes the community look bratty.
@DaBIONICLEFan How do you considered me expressing that no one was asking for a "GOLLUM" anything? No one wants this movie
Noooo TELL ME THIS IS A BAD JOKE!
Gollum was the least interesting of all the characters. I'd rather see new scenes at that cut out key characters out of the original trilogy than some Gollum garbage.
That said I'm more worried about scumbag studio involvement ruining everything throwing moronic gender and dei shite into the movie to push some stupid agenda no one but they care about, so it will end up just like what Warner Bros did with that aberration the Matrix remake and the shite Space Jam remake along with every other remake they do that will continue to flop.
WB planned on doing a Matrix remake without the Wachowskis even if they wouldn't agree and I'm sure it's the same with LotR.