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The Ultimate Mini Laptop Build???
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2023
- I recently found a unique 7 inch mini laptop on AliExpress and I just had to get it. I've created an unboxing video and some follow up videos and now I use it every evening to browse the web, code, and play simple games. Check out my videos to find out more!
Despite a few flaws, I'm determined to make this mini laptop a workhorse. It gets too hot when playing something basic like Minecraft for an hour, plus I discovered a hidden USB-C port in the back. In this video, I'm going to take care of both issues and make this pocket PC a powerhouse!
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UPDATE!! - I've now created a forum for everyone to discuss issues, modifications, use cases, and more. Take a look at www.slagle-tec... for answers to questions you may have, or post your question there and see if other actual users can help out.
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** Links to items shown or used in video**:
2022 Portable 7 inch Mini Laptop - (AliExpress*) - s.click.aliexp...
Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Paste - (Amazon*) - amzn.to/3lgHpDs
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KingSpec 2242 SATA M.2 SSD (512GB) - (Amazon*) - amzn.to/3Jvzigi
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I feel so guilty about encouraging you to drill out the slot, now! The 3D print fix was way better than I expected, actually, and I'm really glad to see the laptop's still working!
No need to feel guilty. Even without the insert the pc is more useful with the USB-C access.
And I didn’t post it to make anyone feel bad. More to show that accidents can happen and we just have to roll with the punches sometimes.
@@S-Technology As I am pretty sure I recognize my love of ellipsis dots and my use of the phrase "feeling fancy" in the "you should Dremel it out" montage... I did feel a brief bit of guilt. I'm glad you rolled with them punches, and I laughed at the cost slide. Just a thought... because clearly the solution is to double down on mauling the case: instead of trying to make a round hole, what if you tried two vertical cuts and a horizontal one removing a rectangular chunk of the body plate, then you could have a more regular shape to try and fit a 3d printed insert into? 😇
I return to my internet hole after that.
@@jyoung-dj1zr Once I saw the USB-C port on the back it was pretty much guaranteed to be cut open. So there should be no guilt. I appreciated all the encouragement I received.
I will probably end up making it more a rounded rectangle shape. It's more that the case has a slight rounded edge that makes a portion stick up. I know my OCD. If I don't get it closer I'll rub my finger on it and end up breaking it off.
Keep the comments and ideas coming.
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You know, a professional machinist could cut that slot with precision. I'd always consider that option if you're working with quality material and you want a top quality finish.
I see it's already been mentioned but when applying thermal paste don't do it in dabs, that creates gaps where there's no paste and can actually make things worse. Spread a thin film of paste on both sides and I mean very thin, you don't want to create a sandwich with a filling in the middle. Place the heat sink on top and slide it about to push out any air and ensure a close fit with no gaps.
Anyone wanting to utilise that USB-C socket I would suggest making a small hole first with a hand drill, the use a file to slowly grind out the hole to the correct size. If you let rip with a Dremel you can easily over do it and of course you can't put metal back.
The best way to keep it cool is to get a mini computer type fan and maybe build it into a stand, I think you can buy such a stand online complete with a USB fan that's what I use.
I pulled mine apart to put thermal paste between the heatsink plates, too. the idle temps dropped from ~60C to 35C lmao, likely because the original thermal paste application used way too much paste for the bendy-low clamping pressure heatsink to squeeze off the die. I still haven't had the gumption to drill out access to the USB-C port, though.
If you do drill it out just take it slow. I started off small and stepped up the sizes slowly. But just moving it up one size is when the drill grabbed it and twisted the side.
The newer Dremel should be able to cut it with the right blades.
Don't worry about the hole, who cares, you have another USB now and that's an improvement! :)
Very true! Thank you.
laptop: (curses in chinese
you can get small flat file, trim the hole to a rectangle and then print nice looking adapter mounted from the inside
I have one of these and after watching this video i have decided to leave it well alone. The temps aren't bad for a laptop, considering my last two laptops frequently hit 99c on the cpu and were fine with that. One good idea though is to buy a 12v pd barrel adapter, works good for charging with a pd battery bank or laptop usb-c charger.
99 C is really hot for a CPU. Above 80 is hot by most of the ratings I have read.
I got a variable PD charger (can adjust it between 5v to 20v) thinking I could use it for other items, but it was dead on delivery from Amazon. Do you have one you would recommend or works well?
FHK USB 3.1 Type C USB-C Female to DC 12V 3.5x1.3mm Plug Adapter PD Emulator Trigger 90 Degree Angled is what i use from amazon. Check if your bank or adapter supports 12v pd output tho.
I recently purchased a new Lenovo ThinkPad 11e for around $CAD225 (about 75 cents $USD), so I did a little research. Your laptop has a Celeron J4105 or J4125 CPU, while the Lenovo has an N4120. There are two striking differences. The J-series has a higher base clock speed than the N-series (1.6 vs 1.1 GHz), and the J-series consumes 10w while the N-series uses 6w. So there are two key reasons why the itty-bitty unit you have is getting hotter than my Lenovo: higher base clock speed and higher power consumption. Not intending to boast, but I imagine the Lenovo probably has a better cooling setup, despite being fanless and having a plastic case. Interesting comparison! :)
FWIW those thick silpads do not have great thermal conductivity, a lot better than air obviously but still not great. A better solution (thermally) would be a suitable thickness of aluminium bonded to the case with a thermal epxoy, and then a thin silpad to connect it to the CPU heatsink.
Hello, could you please confirm that the Type C USB port outputs display also, and is not just a USB 3 port like on some laptops?
I don't know the first thing about thermal paste and the best way to do something but if airflow and distributing is the key I do have a suggestion. If there is space to put that pad on the outside of the 2nd thermal cover and get the casing back on,it should all go back together if say u wedged one of those thermal pads BETWEEN the 2 thermal covers,leaving a space separated by thermal foam. Even that little space would provide air between to eliminate some of the heat before it even hits the second thermal cover. Kinda like the blade of a thermal block
Could've used a tiny drill bit to make an initial hole for the USB-C and then manually file it the rest of the way but I doubt I'd do any better lmao.
you can get a usb C fast charge doughter board that you can set the output on. they do 5v, 9v, 12, and i think even 20v depending on the source. using that you can connect the output to a barrel jack connector to make the device charge off a usb power bank.
Please try some indie games, and emulation like SNES, GBA or PSP and Wii. I would like to see if gets warm with light gaming and emulation. and could be also some light e-sports like league of legends and valorant.
10:24 it is not I think that intel gpus/cpus when they have lower temps decide to boost them self something like auto overclocking
I'd love to see a video on how some older games run on it, like Final Fantasy XI (benchmark), Obiivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3/NV
If I understand correctly that there is space between the sheets?? I think you should try sandwiching a sheet of copper in between. So long as it's isolated from the circuitry, it won't cause any shorts and copper conducts heat way better than aluminum. There are only 2 ways to do passive cooling and since you're dealing with a very small space, passive airflow across fins is not an option, so the only option is to create as much mass as possible to store/dissipate the heat. The only problem could be the screw length if you add too much depth.
Awesome! It's great to see how much the thermals improved from such a modification!!!!
Question: do you know about how one might replace the screen? I have one of these and in the process of shipping the screen broke and I'm trying to figure out if I can replace it with a 7 inch screen off AliExpress.
The short version of the story is that they refuse to give me my money back so I'm trying to make lemonade out of lemons
I haven't opened the screen portion yet and I haven't received any response from the seller I bought it from. (Well I got an automated one that the were closed for Chinese New Year, but nothing from subsequent messages).
I will try to reach out again and even message some other sellers to ask.
My advice would be to look for the exact part number on the screen, not as a replacement part. They're often a generic part after all, even on big name laptops.
Remeckdc: I might be replacing my functional screen w/a small rlcd & putting the touchscreen on ebay. Trying to figure out if screen is removable w/out damaging or (more likely) I'd have to remove the whole lid. Are u in US? Let me know if u'd be interested
@@misterb9786 thanks for the offer. Unfortunately I'm in Australia so no dice. I hope it goes well for you though! I'd be interested in any video or blog you create about you findings
It might also have something to do with the dreaded win11. I tried it briefly with the stock windows and it gets warm even just watching youtube. I then put kali on it and it got quite a bit cooler, even after prolonged periods of videos and sniffing
just got mine today.. tried putting kali on it. got into the system, but display is rotated. tried messing with xrandr and its config, no avail. display setting does not give any options at all... also will not boot without parameter 'nomodeset'. any ideas?
I'll be honest and say I'm not too familiar with Linux. I have seen a few comments left by people trying that have been adding Linux to it semi-successfully. That's one of the reasons I built a forum for these little laptops. I'm hoping people more experienced than me can use it and share their knowledge.
Try asking on www.slagle-tech.com/forum/7-inch-mini-laptop
It's still new, but there are a couple guys that frequent it that might have experience with it.
I do know that when I reinstalled windows on mine the display came back sideways and several things didn't work. (Touchscreen, sound, keyboard mouse keys, etc.)
What material is the chassis made from? Are the top and bottom actually aluminum or is it just plastic?
The outer casing is metal, all the sides, top and bottom panels. I think some kind of cheaper pot metal that looks like an aluminum finish.
The interior around the screen and keyboard is plastic.
Buy a gaming phone cooler with thermoelectric inside and make a 3d printed case for it to look like a mini docking station
That's definitely a good idea if you are going to have it placed on a desk. I could see someone better than I am at Fusion 360 designing and 3D printing an entire bottom piece to make that more portable.
I'm learning it, but no-where near there yet.
this gave me an idea that another friend did with a Pi based pc, make a cyberdeck.
If you do it, post some pics or a video. That could be a cool project.
Could you 3d print a small laptop cooler with fans? See how it performs with active cooling instead of passive?
To create the cut-out since its metal were dealing with should really have been carried out by an different tool and method... the same way you would normally say cut out ports on an cylinder or indeed fabricate or machine to fine tolerance any similiar material accurately...Given the size of the port you should have first drilled with an drill either overhead or hand drilled it doesnt matter as long as your "bores" the holes you drill are all smaller in diameter and width than the port...then using an collection of small files hand file down the metal edges till they meet accurately the bores width height and even its oval shape...by doing this you would always have more material to work with and not go oversize aswell the opportunity to carefully file down the bore to meet precisely and exactly its dimensions and an Dremel is an handy tool but isnt really an finishing tool (since its difficult to control) in fact its bound to make an mess and its usually used for convienance as an quick start if its to successfully achieve an hand file finish...this is how metal is usually worked by hand to achieve such fine tolerances and an hand finish with the correct assortment of files always gives the best result...
Does the touchscreen support pen pressure or just accurate tracking? I'm seeing an aliexpress image claim "L4 version supports 10 point touch and 2048 pressure level stylus" what even is the L4 version?
The 10 point touch seems accurate, but I'm not sure about the pressure level stylus. It comes with a cheap stylus and with the few "better" ones I have tried, I don't believe its anything other than a basic tracking touchscreen.
@@S-Technology Thanks, I wonder if it works with a stylus that's doesn't need one of those annoying disks at the end. Something that would be similar to drawing on a thinkpad yoga.
Not sure. I have the annoying disk ones or the larger “pencil eraser” looking ones.
I think something like a Microsoft Pen won’t work on it. I think they are specific to the surface lines. Not sure about other pens.
I have one of these, and I'm a bit tempted to make a custom cooling setup... but in all honesty, mine doesn't run that hot
I'm waiting for mine to arrive. I ordered the one with the J4125 CPU since there is also a version that ships with the J4105 CPU.
What model CPU do you have?
I have the J4125. So far it’s been a good little CPU. It’s trying it’s best.
Why does the lil' laptop need two aluminum plates?
It seems like heat is spreading from chip to grease to a plate to some more grease to another plate to the pad to the case. Maybe if the second plate was removed you could destroy the.. I mean you could simplify things so the heat goes from the chip to grease to plate to pad to the casing and you might be able to use the whole size of the pad, which might be better? Or something?
It came with 2 and my guess is that they tried to use the little fan to pull hot air from the 2 plates. I wanted to do a little change to see the effects.
But, I think that is the next logical step, to basically use the tried and true K.I.S.S. (Keep It Super Simple) method and remove that extra plate.
@@S-Technology I would be tempted to try a thin thermal pad instead of thermal paste if the heatsink has unstable pressure(as it's sponginess guarantees contact). I'm thinking that they might have doubled the heatsink plates because a single one might be too thin to apply adequate pressure due to the mounting screws being far apart.
@@longdang2681 That's an interesting idea. Maybe one of those thin thermal pads that are used with Raspberry Pi's.
I kept the plates thinking their initial plan was to have some air between the plates and have the fan move that air out. Kind of like a thin but wide radiator fins on a car. But at this point I think removing one of them would be better. I've thought of using just a straight thermal pad from the CPU to the outer casing. But I'm worried there would be nothing protecting the CPU from everyday use of the laptop.
can you replace the TrackPoint nub, like on Thinkpads? the rubber nub part should just pulll off the little joystick below.
Yeah you can. It just comes right off with a little pull straight up.
Pretty nice experiments and specially interesting thermal results.
...But I'll have to be a bitch about the percentages: they're off by a large margin. You can't really count percentage on temperature like that in Celsius. You've got the whole -273 degrees Celsius underneath there. Working with heat, you gotta either use just plain difference (running 7ºc lower is a great number frankly), or you go Kelvin if you want percentages of heat energy.
What software are you using to display the CPU temp, load and clock speed at @10:04?
That’s the “NZXT Cam” mini viewer. You can customize what it shows a little.
@@S-Technology Thanks!
great video, bro! funny too, I love that dog.
I think it's freakin insane that they covered up the C port. why, in hell would they do something this stupid? my guess is that nobody tests the final product. I, say that as I remember that, so many books that I've ever read, had a type o. that, and the multitude of online sites have aspects that do no work. or, are ridiculously hard to use. many times, I wish the punishment for something that bad should be making the creator use it. it's obvious that he never tested it or that the author never checked his work for accuracy.
think about it. nowadays, that C port is a hot item and a huge selling point in my opinion. I'm fixin to use my wonderful C port on my MSI motherboard muahahaha!
you, messing around with that cute little laptop reminds me of a mini hp laptop(?), called the Journada, that I had about 20 years ago. it was awesome. it was about the size and shape of a black, biker style wallet. I was involved in the beta testing of it using mini AOL 2.0. very exciting times. I had to hook it up to a telephone line to get internet back then. I think it was called dial up, or something. my desktop was up to like AOL 8.0, maybe? that was so long ago. hahaha you were prolly in elementary school back then. I'm sure it really helped in developing the smartphones that we have today.
if you get bored, maybe look it up? like, I said hp Journada. I can't remember the model number. 720? 920, maybe? it was the top of the line offering. oh! and it was purple, lolz
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
haha.. I still remember getting those AOL disks all over the place. They has them in magazines or seemed to be included with any electronic device. New mouse? Here's a AOL disk. New printer cables.. here's a disk for you.
Some of those older mini devices were a step ahead of their time. I think a really small pocketable PC that could also be a phone is the future instead of the current trend which is still a phone trying to be a PC.
Have you tried to run Kali Linux on that yet. I’m going to try to install it on a flash drive and see if it works soonn
I haven't. But I know there's a comment that someone else has installed a version of Linux on it. I think the sound or touchscreen took some work to get functioning.
hi, can you please help? i reinstall windows 11 and lost the drivers...sound and touch...can you please send me? thanks
Take a look in the description of the video where I reinstalled Windows. ua-cam.com/video/ncGmdq6D3aA/v-deo.html
I have a link there that has the drivers.
Can the cpu can be upgraded and ram and also storage.
The storage is the only thing that can be easily upgraded. Cpu and ram are micro soldered onto the board. So not the easiest to upgrade.
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how do you think this would work for music production? (just the default buy with no modifications) fl studio, etc. i wanna make stuff while i’m on a plane and around and stuff
also i do think it was worth all the extra money! passion for these devices is important and i hope more of them get made and even more affordable over time, would love one with a more retro Toshiba libretto type of look, that’d be epic
I'm not sure how good it would be. If you are trying to mix multiple tracks it would be hard to do on the smaller screen. I have tried to use it with video editing (Shotcut) and it is difficult to see a lot of the options.
i like see this laptop in game or wow,lol,overwatch and other friend. wow could be Lich King
something about how to apply it.
Hi, i changed the BIOS settings and now is no video, the notebook turn on but no video. How can i reset the BIOS to fabric settings?
I thought there's a "reset to default" settings option in the BIOS. The far right tab where it says "save".
If you have a mini HDMI cable can you connect it to a monitor?
I leave the laptop in the assistence and the staff reset her bios. I can't test it in my house, but i supposed it works to.
I’ll buy it from you!
Did the USB C port run HDMI or only USB devices?
It only runs USB devices. At least on the 2 hubs I have tried it on.
@@S-Technology awesome. That's my experience too but wanted to check if there were.... Secrets
That minibook actually for working not for gaming it cannot stand the heat if the cpu heat around 40 till 70 that is save
there is one thing you forgot it is a touch pad.
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Its probably not suppose to have 2 plates on the CPU. Thats probably why its overheating in the first place.
lol serious hack job
Yep. I'm gonna be "that" guy: When your CPU/ GPU has no heat spreader, NEVER do the "bean-size dab" technique when applying thermal compound:
If you leave a part of the die uncovered, it can get seriously damaged, because the heat it produces has no way of escaping the die.
So never risk this.
Make sure you have thermal compound all over the die.
Especially in your case, you are not applying enough pressure and the sink is too "bendy" to spread the compound evenly. You can see this in 4:44. Why apply dabs of thermal paste around, when you are clearly missing heat conduction in the center, just above the chip?
I appreciate being called out when I make an error. My "idea" was that the stamp out on the aluminum was designed as a heat sink. But you are right, it's a heat sink and not a spreader.
Can you guys expand on that? I recvd the same laptop & looking to make the same adjustments. (I got some artic x4) so (1)I should put paste on the whole square that the processor rests on, rght? And (2)What do u think is a better application pattern for the sink? Thx in advance. (1st time doing this)
Вот так рукожоп) Вроде взрослый человек. Наверное гуманитарий.
good videos.
Thank You